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June 22, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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Congressman Jim Jordan - June 22nd, Hour 2
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, we have the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee talking about all of these new discoveries as it relates to whistleblowers and what they saw in the protection given to Hunter Biden at the IRS that is also weaponized and politicized.
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During yesterday's hearing, John Durham testifying that he had no evidence of Trump-Russia collusion, how FBI agents showed personal bias in terms of Crossfire Hurricane.
It was an investigation that never should have started.
Talked about how Pfizer warrants were admitted, exculpatory evidence, especially the Carter Page warrant, and how not a single item in the dirty disinformation Hillary Clinton bought and paid for Russian dossier was even true.
Here's John Durham.
The FBI opened up Crossfire Hurricane without speaking to the people who provided the initial information.
Is that true?
That's correct.
The FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane on a Sunday, only three days after reviewing that information.
Is that correct?
That's correct.
So just think about that for a moment.
An investigation, a full investigation into a presidential campaign over a weekend.
Mr. Durham, the FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane without interviewing any of the essential witnesses.
Is that true?
That's true.
And the FBI also opened up Crossfire Hurricane without using any of the standard analytical tools typically employed to evaluate that evidence.
Is that true?
That's true.
So think about that.
The FBI never talked to the people who gave them the intelligence information.
They never examined their own witnesses.
They never interviewed the witnesses.
They never corroborated the dossier.
Mr. Durham, if the FBI had done these things, if they had done their homework, would it have found that its own Russian experts had no information about President Trump being involved with Russian leadership or Russian intelligence officials?
Yes.
All right, joining us now.
He was in charge of yesterday's committee hearing.
He's the chairman of the very important House Judiciary Committee.
Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan is back with us.
How are you, sir?
I'm fine, Sean.
It's always good to be with you.
Okay, before I get to what Durham just said, you know, that he saw no evidence of any Trump-Russia collusion, how FBI agents had a personal bias, how Operation Crossfire Hurricane never should have opened, how these five to corroborate any part of it, he could not.
And James Comey signed three of them.
My big question after all of this is, why didn't he indict these people?
Yeah, he says this in his report, Sean, and I know this is a frustration we all see, and we all feel, not just with this situation, but so many others.
You got to be able to show real criminal intent.
He just felt like he couldn't, beyond a reasonable doubt, prove that.
I did think his report was good.
It was positive, and it was helpful to just showing, again, how bad and how wrong it was.
But he also, he tried to talk to the guy who started it all.
He actually got on a plane, flew to Italy, tried to find this Nipsid guy, who was the guy who first bumps into Papadopoulos, tells him information about, you know, the Clintons, supposedly the Russians have information on the Clintons, and that became the basis to launch this whole crazy investigation.
Durham points out they didn't talk to anyone.
The FBI didn't talk to the folks, didn't interview any of the key people who gave that information before they launched it.
But I do think overall, he did a service to the country, even though I know there's frustration amongst so many people.
But the reality is, you correct me if I'm wrong.
I've never actually seen a real FISA warm, but doesn't it say at the top of it, verified?
Yeah, yeah.
And so if an FBI director signs it, I would believe, and I'll even quote Andrew McCabe here, a former deputy FBI director, saying without that dirty dossier that Hillary paid for, they would never have gotten the FISA warrants approved.
Now, Jim Comey was warned that he shouldn't trust this.
In early October 2016, they offered a million-dollar bounty to Christopher Steele to corroborate any part of it.
He couldn't collect the penny because he couldn't.
Couldn't corroborate any of it.
The Clintons not only paid for it, Sean, the Clintons fed the information to it.
So they were working both sides of the equation.
Clinton campaign, paid Perkins-Cooey, paid Fusion, who hired Christopher Steele.
And then they had Charles Dolan, this key figure who the FBI didn't interview, who Mueller didn't interview.
Dolan feeding information to the prime sub-source, Dan Tinka, who gave it to Steele.
So the Clintons were in on all this.
We'll feed them the false information about Trump.
We'll pay for it to get done.
And then we'll make sure we talk to the press, talk to the media, and even go talk to the FBI themselves, which is what Zussman did, who worked at Perkins-Cooey.
They had all sides of the equation covered to get this story out, and it was all baloney.
And the FBI went along with it.
You can say they had confirmation bias.
You can say whatever.
I think they had a political bias.
I think they were out to get Trump, which, again, Durham gave color and detail to all this.
Here's the key one.
We talked about this yesterday.
Here's the key one.
So they get information.
Our government gets information in the summer of 2016, intelligence that says this is all from the Clintons, like I just described.
It was credible enough intelligence that Brennan goes and briefs with President Obama, Vice President Biden, Attorney General Lynch, and Director Comey, and then he puts it into a memorandum called a referral memo.
That memo gets sent to Comey and struck.
Comey doesn't share it with the FISA court.
He doesn't share it with the lawyers drafting the FISA application.
And most importantly, he doesn't share it with the agents working the case, working the cross-fire hurricane case.
And then when Durham goes and interviews those agents, late years later, shows them the memo, that agent, one of those agents gets so mad.
He gets up, he leaves the room, he comes back in, and basically he's like so ticked off.
He says, we should have had this information at the time.
It could have changed everything.
That's how biased, that's how out to get these, out to get President Trump, these top people at the FBI were.
Well, that's certainly a higher honor by James Comey, isn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like.
But, you know, you, in some of your commentary, I found it very, very enlightening yesterday.
You know, you rightly, you know, Durham figured out how this whole thing, this Trump-Russia collusion lie started.
We know who spread it.
We know Adam Schiff was one of the chief architects of spreading these lies, but it was also the media mob.
This went on for nearly three long years.
And Donald Trump had this cloud over his presidency the whole time.
And, you know, they've gone after Trump the entire time.
They're still going after him today.
And I know a lot of people say, well, why doesn't Donald Trump fight less?
I'm like, well, what if he didn't fight on this lie?
This whole thing was made up whole cloth.
And I don't know.
I just feel like Jim Comey is getting a much bigger pass than he deserves here.
James Comey knew it was total, complete BS.
And then he signed the FISA applications, three of them, even after they couldn't, you know, Christopher Steele couldn't corroborate it.
Even after his sub-source, Danchenko couldn't, you know, said it was all bar talk, and the FBI rewards him by putting him on the payroll.
Yeah.
No, well said.
Everything right on target.
When Comey, when we deposed Comey back in two Congresses back, when we were doing our investigations, he told us then, right after he was fired, he said, up until the time I was fired in May, he said, we still didn't know if we had anything.
So he knew all along there was nothing there, but they actually hoped that the FISAs would prove out.
Like, we'll do a FISA in a wrong way, in an illegal way, we'll do it.
But we think we'll be able, but when we're surveilling Carter Page and these other folks, we think we'll be able to prove him out and get the information we need.
You don't do it that way.
That's against the law, against the Constitution.
Here's another key thing.
If President Trump doesn't fire Jim Comey, we would have never learned any of this.
It was tough, and Comey goes and leaks stuff after he gets fired.
But the fact that President Trump did that, and lots of people were telling him not to do it, but the fact that he did it is how we actually ultimately found this all out.
And of course, the work of good people in the media like you and others, and then a handful of folks here in the United States Congress, starting with Devin Nunes, who was the first to see it as then chairman of the intelligence committee.
And here's the irony of all of it yesterday.
The same day that Adam, that John Durham comes and testifies in front of our committee and fully lays out how wrong this was is the day that Adam Schiff gets censored, the guy who pushed the false narrative for so many years and went after President Trump.
I think there's some irony in all that.
Let's talk a little bit about all of this together and what does it mean?
You know, for I understand the FISA law expires in December of this year.
I understand that a lot of Republicans are saying that the FBI has to be restructured from the ground up.
I happen to be one of those people that believes that.
I think the FBI, which was once the world's premier law enforcement agency, no longer is.
It has been weaponized.
It has been politicized by the likes of Comey and Ray.
I think they need to go.
I think their top deputies need to go.
And I think every FBI agent currently working needs to be reinterviewed and make sure that the FBI adheres to their previous mission.
How many more elections are we going to allow them to put cinder blocks on the scales of one party or another?
Yeah, no, I know you're right about that.
The commitment from House Republicans, and I know every single House Republican on the Judiciary Committee, is to fundamentally change FISA.
It is up for reauthorization, the 702 program.
It ends on December 31st of this year.
So that is priority number one.
Priority number two is to use the appropriations process, the power of the purse, as you talk about so often, Sean, to use that and say taxpayer money can't be spent for this.
Here's a great example.
We've been working with folks at the Department of Homeland Security, which is an area that the Judiciary Committee has some influence on, as well as the Justice Department when it comes to the appropriations process.
DHS, no money can ever be used to form a disinformation governance court.
Any person who is found guilty of any person who is using, as a government employee saying that certain speech is misinformation, disinformation, malinformation, baloney.
You can't have that.
There's got to be accountability and consequences for people in the government who do those kind of things.
So those are the kind of things we have to get, the language we have to get in these appropriation bills as we now begin that process here.
Well, if you don't get rid of the leadership, how did things change?
I mean, there's a lot of this fall on Director Ray and Merrick Garland?
Yeah, it does.
And they've indicated there was a letter sent to Mr. Durham last month when his report came out saying everything is fine.
If the reforms that we have implemented in the last couple of years have been in place, then none of this stuff would have happened like it did with Crossfire Hurricane and the Mueller investigation.
And that's just not true because we interviewed, and we talked about this on your show, Sean, we interviewed Steve D'Antoino, the former head of the Washington field office.
He was head of that field office when the Trump classified document case began.
And one of the reforms that's supposed to happen is you don't run investigations out of headquarters.
And yet Stephen D'Antoino said everything on the Trump classified document case was run out of headquarters.
So the very thing they're saying that they fixed is not fixed.
They're still doing the same stuff they did in 2016.
Well, I'll give you another example.
Wasn't Director A president in 2020?
Wasn't he the director?
The FBI had Hunter's laptop in December of 2019.
John Solomon believes that they confirmed its authenticity in the spring of 2020.
If that's the case, then they knew that laptop was real.
And why were FBI agents meeting weekly in the months leading up to the 2020 election pre-bunking the Hunter Biden laptop story, which eventually got censored because of their efforts when they knew damn well that Rudy Giuliani was likely going to leak it because he was the president's attorney at the time and he had a copy of it and they knew he had a copy of it.
Yep, they pre-bunked it.
They did a whole, call it tabletop exercise at the Aspen Institute.
They did all that.
I mean, like you said, meeting weekly with big tech saying, hey, you need to be on the lookout for an October surprise hack and leak operation that will involve Hunter Biden.
How did they know all that?
Was it like profits?
Were the visionaries?
How did they see all that?
Because they had the laptop.
I mean, this is so ridiculous what they've done.
And as you and I have talked about many times, every single election, they get involved.
2016, they spied on his campaign.
2018, Mueller investigation, $30 million, 19 lawyers, 40 agents.
2020, it was the pre-bunking of the laptop and the 51 former Intel officials giving us a false letter about Russian misinformation.
2022, they raided President Trump's home.
And now, 2024, just nine days ago, they indicted him.
Quick break more with the chairman of the all-important House Judiciary Committee, Jim Jordan of Ohio, will join us as we continue.
Also, getting to your calls, 800-941-Sean, our number, sad tragedy, the loss of life as it relates to the Titanic voyage of Titan, Ocean Gates Titan.
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All right, we continue with House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan is with us.
Honestly, I think there's going to be more indictments.
Next one's probably going to be in D.C.
The one after that's going to be in Fulton County, Georgia.
You know, how does Donald Trump run for president when he's got not one, not two, not three, but at least four criminal cases he's got to deal with?
Yeah, Sean, I think he keeps running, and I think he's going to win.
And I think that's good for the country.
But, you know, this guy is tough.
This guy did a lot of great good, a lot of good things for the country, did what he said he was going to do in the last administration.
I think we could use that again.
And so I'm for him 100%.
But I don't think anything's going to stop him from running.
And frankly, it seems like every time they do something, the country realizes this is just more of, what is it now?
60% of the country think there's a double standard at the Justice Department.
They think that because it's true, because there is.
And now the latest news coming out, and I know you're talking with Jason Smith, the chairman of the Ways and Means Committee, this stuff out today, I mean, this is unbelievable what happened with those whistleblowers and what took place there as well.
Those are important facts that I think, again, show this double standard because the DOJ was involved in working with the IRS and what was going on here as well.
Again, it just continues, and it's why we got to have a new president and a new attorney general.
Well, I hope so.
And honestly, if it wasn't for the likes of you and Jim Comer and also the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, Jason Smith, who will join us at the top of the next hour, we'd be lost.
And the question is, will this resonate?
Will this penetrate through a media that is so corrupt and abusively biased?
They were nothing but dupes and willing accomplices to all the lies of the Russia collusion hoax.
Even got Pulitzer Prizes for it, never apologized, never made corrections, never were held accountable, and just moved on to the next conspiracy theory.
Yeah.
Sad.
Jim Jordan, House Judiciary Committee Chairman.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you, Sean.
Take care.
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Fun moment yesterday when Kevin McCarthy announcing the censure of the congenital liar Adam Schiff was exposed completely by John Durham in the report.
The saddest thing, and this Matt Gates raised this point with Durham, is by coming up with all this information that the dossier, they couldn't prove a single thing in it.
And they used it for FISA applications.
Here's the problem with Durham.
He never charged people.
Now, I guess he might be looking at the venue, and that's Washington and D.C., and you can't convict a Democrat in Washington, D.C. You can, you know, you can indict and get a conviction for any Republican, anybody with the last name Trump.
I mean, it's pretty much a fated complete.
Just show up and get your guilty verdict and don't even waste time.
Pass, go collect 200 bucks.
But anyway, here's Kevin McCarthy announcing Adam Schiff's censure, which, by the way, was well deserved for all his lying.
By its adoption of House Resolution 521, the House has resolved that the House of Representatives censures Adam Schiff, Representative of the 30th Congressional District of California,
for misleading the American public, and for conduct unbecoming of an elected member of the House of Representatives.
That Representative Adam Schiff will be forthwith present himself in the well of the House of Representatives for the pronouncement of censure.
That Representative Adam Schiff will be censured with the public reading of this resolution by the Speaker.
And that the Committee on Ethics shall conduct an investigation into Representative Adam Schiff's falsehoods, misrepresentations, and abuse of sensitive information.
Then it got even a little more.
Shame, shame.
The shame is on Adam Schiff.
Adam Schiff knowingly, purposefully, repeatedly lied to the American people to spread his Russia conspiracy hoax, an Operation Crossfire hurricane that never, ever, ever should have even been opened.
And yet the only guy that was corroborating with somebody that he believed a Russian to get intelligence on a presidential candidate was Adam Schiff.
You know, he played the montage yesterday and goes, so we got compromise in Materia on Donald Trump.
What is the nature of the compromise?
Pixis naked Trump, Naked Picta Trump.
Does Vladimir know?
But of course, Vladimir to Bovisima Busima, he know about Naked Picta.
Can you get it to me?
Can you give me the naked pictures?
I'm dying to see them.
But of course, we get the naked picture.
Anyway, so Adam Schiff, so then the Democrats, they go absolutely, shame, shame.
I'm like, yeah, the shame is on this idiot that lied to all of us for all these years and all the rest of them that lied along with them.
The yays are 213 and the nays are 209 with six answering present.
The resolution adopted without objection.
The motion to consider is relayed on the table.
House will be in order.
Just a great moment.
Couldn't happen to a bigger jackass in Congress.
All right, let's get to our busy telephones here.
Mike, Iowa next, Sean Hannity Show.
Mike, how are you?
Fine, Sean.
Thank you very much for taking my call.
I've listened to you a lot, and you're still a great American.
Thank you, my friend.
Glad you're out there.
Thanks for making my dreams come true.
What's going on?
I might have a stupid question, but I've heard all these things.
By the way, there's no such thing as a stupid question.
I really believe that.
Well, I've heard all the things that Hunter gets a slap on the wrist, and if he does just two years and he's a good boy, they're not going to throw him in jail and they're not going to do all this.
What I haven't heard from anybody, and I've tried to look it up, and I can't find it, does he have to pay for the back taxes on the money that he didn't claim?
And does he have to pay a penalty for not paying that?
And does he have to pay interest on those?
Great questions.
My understanding is he has already paid the money back.
Some, you know, sugar daddy Biden lover supporter, you know, stepped in and provided the monies for other back taxes that he owed.
You know, but the real scandal is that the IRS and you know, we had, and, you know, and by the way, we have coming up on the program later at the top of the next hour, the chairman of the House Means Committee and these IRS whistleblowers.
And, you know, Jason Smith is saying he can confirm they have credible whistleblower testimony alleging misconduct and government abuse and preferential treatment for Hunter Biden.
Two IRS employees blowing the whistle with evidence that the federal government didn't treat every taxpayer equally.
And in fact, they were working on an investigation into Hunter that opened in November of 2008 and that they purposefully allowed the statute of limitations to pass so that the years where a lot of other monies were made, he couldn't be charged with.
Now, you know what?
This is what Americans hate about politics.
This is what people despise about the swamp, the sewer.
This is why we say there's a dual justice system.
You know, last night we had Bradford Cohn on.
You know, look at his case.
He represented rapper Kodak Black.
And Kodak Black lied on his gun application form.
He didn't get any diversionary program opportunity.
No, he got sentenced to 46 months in jail.
It's just, it's so frustrating.
Anyway, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, good call, sir.
All right, back to our phones.
JT, Alabama.
What's up, JT?
How are you, sir?
Bye.
I was on with Kay, with Clay and Buck today, and we were talking about when I started my first professional radio gig in Alabama.
Where are you in Alabama?
I'm in Ozark, Alabama.
I've been here for the last three years.
I got out of New England.
It was too Democratic up there.
I had to get out.
I have brothers and sisters who are Democrats, and all I do is just argue.
And I wish I could copy every single lie that Joe Biden did and make a tape of it and said, this is what he's telling you.
And every lie that he tells, every time he gets on the mic, he lies.
And I can't convince these people.
They're just brainwashed because they're not told the right information.
But the last call it took the wind out of my sales because I was mentioning everybody talked about the slap on the wrist that Hunter got.
But, you know, I owned an LLC.
And, you know, even in the best years or the worst years, maybe $60,000.
And I took every legal expense, you know, traveling expense, gas mileage, everything I could take.
And at the end of the day, I still had to pay 20% and up to 25% of my taxes.
I had to pay $12,000 to $15,000 on $60,000 a year.
And then here I'm sitting here, Hunter Biden got caught five years ago making $1.5 million.
That money changes.
It could be a million or $1.5 million.
And I'm doing the math saying, wait a second, $1.5 million to 20% is $300,000 or $375,000.
And that's one year.
Let's multiply that twice.
You got $600,750,000 that he would have to pay in taxes.
And then, of course, I've been through this before: late payment fees and interest.
You could pretty much over five years double that to $1.2 million to $1.5 million.
He would have to pay.
And I have to say, a lot of people who get really behind on their taxes and then they can't pay it back, they find a company and negotiate a price and they negotiate it down.
You can't tell me Hunter Biden doesn't have $1.5 million from a California friend or some bank.
No, well, that was the thing.
He did have a sugar daddy from the West Coast that paid a lot of the monies for him.
Now, does he have to pay income on that money?
Is it a loan?
I mean, you know, there are ways to do it and do it legally.
I think you can only gift somebody, if I'm not mistaken, $15,000 a year tax-free.
After that, if you give them the money, then that becomes taxable income is my understanding.
And the other side of it, if it's a loan, you know, it's got to be a legitimate loan.
It's got to be signed.
You've got to do it the right way.
I know because I've loaned people money.
You know, so, and I just, this is why I pay accountants a lot of money to do those things that I myself am not capable of doing.
I just don't have the knowledge base to do it.
I know.
And after they find him 200 grand, I'm sitting there going, 200 grand on $3 million?
Come on, that's 8%.
He paid 8%.
The next time Joe Biden gets on the air and says, we're coming after these millionaires and billionaires and make them pay their fair share.
Everybody in the room is just going to stand up and say, let's start with your son who paid 8% on $3 million.
That's what I would say.
Any press person would say, oh, let's start there, you know, and then we go from there.
And just one more thing.
Can you send me a good lawyer's number, maybe Alan Dershowitz, because I would love to start a class action lawsuit.
And every American can add into this class action lawsuit.
I would start with Hillary Clinton, the FBI, the CIA, every single press that published a lie for three years.
Are you willing to fund this lawsuit?
Because Alan Dershowitz does not work for free.
He's not cheap either.
No, I need a lawyer pro bono on a class action lawsuit.
And I don't care if I don't win it.
But if every one of these people who are not held accountable are sued and have to pay millions of dollars for the lie that they told for three years, they might think twice the next time they start thinking about telling a lie because nobody's holding them accountable.
And if I could earn $1 of my tax money, then I spent over $50 million on all of these congressional hearings and all of this money and Durban, everybody.
And I want my money back because that's not what I paid my taxes for.
And I want a portion of that $50 million or $75 million.
And every American can be involved in it.
And if I end up with $1, I'll frame it on my wall.
Don't hold your breath.
That's all I can say.
Once they have your money, they're not giving it back.
But I hear what you're saying.
All right, quick break.
We'll come right back.
800-941 Sean, our number as we get to more of your calls at the top of the hour, the IRS whistleblowers speak.
We'll talk to the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, Jason Smith, about what he learned today and much more.
Ann and Maryland, how are you, Ann?
Glad you called.
Hi.
Thanks for taking my call.
What's on your mind?
Well, it's been preying on my mind.
I keep thinking, these people keep telling me the ones that these liberals who are, we've got to get rid of the word liberal because it sounds too good.
We've got to get rid of the word progressive.
It flatters them.
They think it's a good word.
Anyhow, but they're not.
But anyway, the origin of the hate for Trump.
You know, the media taught the people to hate Trump, and nobody ever talks about that.
These people don't even know why they hate Trump.
They heard something from somebody.
They heard it on the ⁇ nobody's addressing the fact that these people have besmirched Trump for so long.
And that's the origin, Sean.
Listen, I'm not going to lie.
Some of it I think he brings upon himself, some of it.
But here's my question to anybody out there that's fair-minded.
How would you feel if you were the victim of a never-ending non-stop three-year lie smear conspiracy theory campaign that you colluded with Russia when you know damn well you didn't?
And day in and day out, every hour, every minute, Every second of every day, every week, every month of the three years of your presidency, you're being lied about day in and day out.
And, you know, there are a few people defending you, but most of the media mob and the Democrats, they just spew their lies.
They convince this country that he colluded with Russia.
Now, I think that would be life-altering for most people.
I think it would be, you know, and he still had to be president in the meantime.
So fight for secure borders, fight against, you know, our arch enemies and fight for trade deals and fight for energy independence.
You know, there's not a switch that goes off and says, I'm not going to fight anymore.
And maybe that's the blessing, maybe that's the blessing curse of Donald Trump.
He fights and he doesn't stop.
I don't think most people could do it.
Anyway, appreciate the call.
Good call, Ann.
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