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Gavin Newsom - June 16th, Hour 3
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So the interview that I did with Gavin Newsom, we aired the full hour, although it wasn't the full hour.
We have a little more that we didn't air.
We'll air some of that tonight.
We also have Laura Trump on tonight and much more.
And we'll give you the latest news as always.
But we have more tonight.
But it got a lot of people talking.
I suspect he wants to run for president.
A lot of people, I want you to maybe hear it will be different from seeing it, but we're going to play some of that in this final hour.
All right.
So I write you.
This got a lot of pickup, I'm sure you saw it as well.
And I'm like, okay, I want to do an interview.
And I don't want to do an interview, and I want to make sure the audience understands up front.
This is not going to be me.
I want you to answer and give your views.
I would say you represent probably about half the country, your views, and the other half represents mine.
You agree?
We're kind of divided.
Plus or minus.
Certainly divided.
Yeah.
No question.
I mean, you know, we're polarized, we're traumatized.
We clearly are in these, and we're in these echo chambers.
I mean, let's be candid, Sean.
I mean, you know, your folks are watching you and getting a certain perspective.
My folks are watching other networks getting a certain perspective.
We have studies that show a lot of Democrats watch me.
Well, including me.
So I'm actually, I'm here for a reason.
To with the point, though, I think we need more of that cross-polonization.
We need more of these kind of conversations.
And we need to not just, you know, accuse each other of misleading the American people, but I think confront each other in the context of providing opportunities to address some of the facts that are often omitted in terms of the conversations and topics we choose to pick up.
So what I see is I don't know how you reconcile some of these differences.
Now, you either believe in secure borders and law and order, and people that want to come into our country have to do it legally.
I'm the product of that.
Or there are people that want open borders.
You believe in defund, dismantle, no-bail laws like cities like New York where the show originates from.
Or you believe law and order, safety, security is a prerequisite for the pursuit of happiness.
You want energy independence, or you don't want any domestic energy production.
I mean, how do you reconcile that?
And I say, I don't see those binaries at all.
Quite a lot.
You don't see it at all.
No, I don't.
I mean, I want border security.
Democrats want border security.
We also want comprehensive security.
You don't want any walls.
I want comprehensive immigration reform.
I want to actually address the issue more comprehensively, just like Ronald Reagan did in 1989.
Just like, and with respect, Sean, you promoted yourself with the gang of eight and bipartisan legislation that got 68 votes in the Senate only to die in the House that could fundamentally address this issue, which is the issue.
So I don't see those.
I always had as my position, build the wall first.
You're against building any wall.
I know.
I have no problem with the 650-plus miles we have on border walls.
I come from a state with the largest, I mean, San Esedril is the largest land port in the Western Hemisphere.
I don't need to be educated on the issue of the border.
Or issues of immigration policy.
I think Medi-Cal for illegals is $2.7 billion to this state.
And how many billions are we spending for uncompensated care if people end up in the emergency on the back end wasting taxpayer money?
Why is it wrong to just demand if you want to come to this country, obey our laws, respect our borders, respect our sovereignty, apply commitment, and we can expedite the application?
That's the latter part.
Now you're having a conversation.
This is where I think the vast majority of Americans.
That's why I'm here.
Well, that's the point.
I'm here to bring this together.
And that was the point of the comprehensive reform.
Where's Congress?
I mean, I'll get, look, you can criticize Biden all the time.
Biden's border crisis.
I watched 24-7, Surround Sound, Anger Machine around that.
I get it.
Wait a minute.
In three years, you will allow over 7.5 million people illegally into this country.
You have to see there's something wrong with that.
No, I do, and I see there's something right with what he's done post Title 42, a 70% reduction, taking a lot of the core tenants that the previous administration used.
He's now been sued by the left, not just being applauded, certainly by the right.
That said, here's what's missing.
The conversation you just suggested we should be having around dealing with asylum seekers and backlogs and updating and modernizing our visas and addressing a pathway that Ronald Reagan himself acknowledged.
Let me ask you if those things are missing.
Should we have background checks?
In the middle of a pandemic, health checks?
We did.
Should we have means testing so the people that enter this country are not going to be a financial burden on the American people?
We prioritize already with certain we prioritize with STEM.
We prioritize with visas already.
We prioritize.
We're going to give a free college education and $2.7 billion of taxpayer dollars in California to Medi-Cal.
And there's very illegal immigrants only.
And we're spending the money already.
I know everybody on the right can't stand sanctuary policy.
I understand that.
Rudy Giuliani, by the way, Trump's old attorney, was a huge proponent of sanctuary policy.
I didn't know that.
Actually, said it keeps you healthier, safer, and more educated.
Actually, made those arguments when he was governor, or rather, mayor of New York.
It's the cards that are dealt in the absence of comprehensive reform.
I'm all for comprehensive reform.
I'm for background checks.
I'm for addressing border security and all its forms and manifestations, not just walls.
I'm addressing a legal pathway.
I'm actually wanting to address all these issues, but I want to do it in a rational way and not just bastardize the conversation as exclusively about the border.
Okay, I have here my pile of stuff the exact federal law that prohibits.
Now, there are two court decisions that you might be able to cite.
One is the Trump lawsuit.
That was in the Ninth Circuit.
The other is some wording and one opinion that Justice Galia gave some years back.
But it is unambiguous when you read the 18 U.S. Code as it relates to entering the country that you've got to do so legally.
By characterizing the state as sanctuary, aren't you thereby violating federal law, the laws that are on the books, and that our own Constitution states very unequivocally that, in fact, you should be following?
Sanctuary policies have been on the books for decades, cities, Democratic cities, Republican-led cities in the past, Democratic states, clearly.
More modern conception around dealing with reality, the cards that are dealt.
You want people that are victims of crime to come forward and report those crimes.
That's the purpose of sanctuary.
You want a kid to be educated that's here regardless of how they got here.
You want that kid educated.
You want to take care of someone that's in an emergency and not have them concerned that they're going to be deported by a nurse.
The point is, you deal with reality.
But look, I stipulate I'm happy to get rid of those protections by doing the hard work of actually coming together as a nation across our differences and support comprehensive reform and modernize our asylum system and modernize our immigration system.
This issue will only get worse.
It's not just a border issue.
7.5 million people under Joe Biden will illegally enter this country in three years of his presidency.
To me, that's unconscionable.
That's unfair to the American people.
That's unfair to the states, including your state.
That's unfair to border states like Texas.
Here's where I want to just pause a second and ask you a really serious question.
I don't think Joe Biden is mentally, physically capable of being the president of the United States.
Hang on.
I suspect if I took your phone and I took a look at it, not that I believe in privacy, I would never do that.
I would bet on a daily basis that there are people urging you to run for president and primary him.
Am I wrong in my assumption?
Well, my phone's been lighting up how well he did with the UK prime minister.
My phone lit up and how he's a nice doc.
McCarthy on the deadline.
My phone lights up with Republican friends saying, you know what?
Despite all of the rhetoric, These bipartisan bills he keeps passing on infrastructure and the Chips and Science Act, the bipartisan work he did on gun legislation reform and around the debt ceiling make me feel maybe he's done a little bit better job than somebody else.
But that wasn't my question.
Does your phone light up with Gavin?
You need to get in this primary.
He's not able to run.
He's not up to the job.
Look, everybody has their quiet chatter and everybody's out there rooting for America.
I'm rooting for our president and I have great confidence in his policy.
I don't want him to fail.
I don't want him able to accomplish that.
I think his policies are failing.
Chips Act, Science Act, do you oppose that?
I will tell you on every measure from the economy, inflation, borders, energy, national security, he's missing an action.
Let's talk about them in order.
Let's talk about them.
Hang on.
Wait, but I want to challenge the premise.
You said the economy, 13.1 million jobs he's created.
These opposed COVID jobs.
You know that.
That's an artificial number.
But no, no, no.
Then let me stipulate this.
As an opportunity to engage civilly on this.
Okay.
Fair point.
Your president, Donald Trump, lost 2.6 million jobs during his four years.
We created 13.1 million.
Fine.
You can maintain a COVID frame.
How about the fact that Joe Biden's created more jobs, six times more jobs, than the previous three Republican presidents?
Are you going to tell me that the average family where we have two-thirds of Americans now living paycheck to paycheck?
It was 70% under Trump.
There was 70%.
It was 70%.
It was 2% under Donald Trump.
We had the lowest unemployment rate for every demographic.
We have the lowest black unemployment posture, and you and I are living with the lowest unemployment in our lifetime.
You had to make every demographic and the economy was.
Black unemployment's record low under Joe Biden.
Okay.
We had historic low after historic low under Donald Trump.
Donald Trump.
I mean, here's the Trump's clock, Biden, in terms of the progress in job creation.
Look at what he's done on jobs.
How would you grade Joe Biden's presidency?
You're at odds with the American people and the Democratic Party.
I'm just dealing with your facts.
I'm dealing with the facts.
What is your grade for you?
I'm going to go back.
Let's talk.
You brought up six topics.
You've got to answer some questions.
I'm answering the ones.
In order.
You brought up the economy.
On the economy, let's talk about the economy.
You want to give him an A?
Inflation, stubborn around the globe.
Let's talk about inflation.
It's down 40% since last summer, 10 months in a row, 4.9%.
He was just with the U.K. prime minister.
It's 6.9%.
Is that because of Biden's?
I think Biden's economic and energy policy directly impacted the U.K.'s inflation?
No, I understand.
Or the fact that France is 5.5% or Germany's at 6%.
On inflation, we're moving in the right direction.
On the issue of the border security.
I've inherited 1.4% inflation.
It went up to 40-year highly 40-year high.
Globally.
Globally, because you just brought up the budget.
An excuse for Trump's dismal jobs record related to COVID wasn't a long-term COVID's relationship to inflation globally.
And by the way, COVID-19 impacting our inflation.
Let me stop you.
All right.
So I would assume that you're going to be able to get a lot of money today.
Here's the problem that Joe Biden has.
You're arguing, you're fighting, you're battling, you're articulate.
We could sit here for three hours, probably have a beer or two in the middle of this, and you can keep going.
Here's the problem.
Your president can't have this conversation.
He's not capable of it.
Now my question is a serious one.
Okay.
Is Joe Biden up to the job of being president?
And as a little reminder, take a look at your president and the monitor.
And there's an awful lot of stories that are told with colleagues.
A bunch apocryphal about the former prime minister like to take baths of that wandering round at three in the morning.
Yeah, it's the judgment.
By the way, I met with those guys that fly over shortly.
You heard of them.
Haven't he?
And the cheer for Muslims, we cheer for Muslim athletes like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
I know him, and I said, mispronounced his name.
So I'm trying to think, where was the last place I was?
It's hard to keep track.
Yeah, you're right, Ireland.
That's where it was.
Eight EIGH percent.
He said, you're too much.
You're too much like that guy who led the revolutions.
He said it a guy who was the prime minister.
He said, you got to be less like a military guy.
They shot him.
God bless you all.
Let's go.
Let's go lick the world.
Let's get it done.
And then you got Joe Biden is having a hard time standing up.
I want you to tell me that you think he is cognitively strong enough to lead this country against China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, and a new axis of evil, and that he's the guy.
He cannot articulate the economy the way you just did.
Yeah, but I don't think he's capable.
I know he's capable.
I see results.
I've seen a master class in results the last few years.
You don't see the results on the CHIPS Act.
You don't see the results on the infrastructure.
You had Infrastructure Week every week for four years.
You're still importing them all from Taiwan, which is about to be taken over by China.
We had $4 billion proof point just here in California with applied materials, bringing semiconductor investment back here in the state of California.
My point being real results, but bipartisan results, real results, jobs programs.
The IRA, I know you don't like it.
I mean, hundreds of billions of dollars in green energy investment, mostly in red states.
You're the biggest beneficiary of the IRA.
Taxes on the structure bill.
Gas, coal, pensions, and, quote, taxes corporations.
Corporations don't pay taxes.
They pass the cost on to consumers.
That's all they do.
You know that.
On the issue of energy independence, I think it was your second of the list of items.
Do you think he's cognitively strong enough to be president?
I have conversations with him all the time.
Yes.
And I'll tell you what.
You do.
I'm dead serious about that.
I've talked to him when he's been overseas.
I've been in Air Force One, Marine One.
I've been in the limo with him.
I've spent time with him.
And he never answered my question directly.
How many times is your phone ping a day people saying you need to get in this race?
Because they agree with me that he's not up to the job.
Jose, I see where you're going with that.
I'm asking.
No, and I'm not answering.
Under any circumstances, would you get in this primary?
No, none.
Look, I really am proud.
I think he's a man of decency and character.
I'm really proud of the president.
I'm proud of what he's accomplished.
He's strong enough to be president.
That's strong enough.
Look what he just did to McCarthy.
All right, quick break, right back.
We'll continue more with California Governor Gavin Newsom on the other side.
The unaired portion of the interview is part of our show tonight on Hannity, as well as Laura Trump and others.
Nine Eastern State DBR, Hannity Fox News, as we continue.
In a sea of government lies, he's the beacon of trust.
I 25 to the top of the hour.
More of my interview with Gavin Newsom from earlier this week.
The unaired portion will air tonight.
Also, Laura Trump is on tonight.
The battle for the heart and soul of this country is ongoing.
I want to get her take on Joe Biden and the Biden family syndicate as well.
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A mom came and got her.
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Anyway, we continue with my interview with California Governor Gavin Newsom, part two, the unaired portion tonight, as well as Laura Trump and more.
Nine Eastern on Fox.
So we're at a point, I think you are far more articulate, far more reversed, far more energetic.
I'm just, I have this theory that people are going to come calling because I don't think in your party they think he's a guy.
Just my thought.
Now I've got a bunch of.
Well, I don't want to make this an argument.
I want you to explain, Brisia.
Because my argument to you is conservative policies work.
You know, I don't care if it's Ronald Reagan.
I don't care if it's Newt Gingrich's contract.
I don't care if it's Donald Trump's four years as president.
I believe his policies work.
He's through strength, work building up our military, building a wall, enforcing law and order, energy independence, which Biden gave up, which he didn't bring up.
Which I'm happy to directly.
Let me show you a list of corporate headquarters that are leaving your state.
Well, let's bring it on.
I look forward to having this conversation.
I'm well aware.
Corporate headquarters, they're leaving.
Look at San Francisco in particular.
They're closing down because they can't keep their product in the store because they're getting robbed.
I got another one for you.
Seasonally adjusted business applications.
You always bring up Florida.
I compared you to Florida.
I think you have a higher population, if I'm not mistaken, a significantly higher population.
Why are they doing better in business formulations?
We'll have to take a look at that more.
Take a look.
I'm happy.
I'm happy that we're looking forward.
How many more of these do you have?
Let's go.
About eight.
Bring them on.
Bring them all on.
Let's do.
Bring them all on.
Let's have this conversation.
Okay.
Let me ask.
This is a tough question for you.
I don't think it will be.
Well, let's find out.
All right.
So you're the first governor in history that has had a net migration out of the golden state.
Go west, young man.
Yeah.
I lived here five.
I lived here five years.
Boris Greeley.
I was the poorest guy in Santa Barbara at the time in the early 80s.
If you look at, I want you to really look at this and explain for the years 2021 and 2022 why Florida is taking in nearly 1,000 people a day, and you're losing 800 people a day.
You're leaving.
Tell me why they're leaving your state.
So we'll stop at three or you want to do the whole thing.
No, no, well, just answer one of the.
18 states.
18 states had declines in population.
California's was 0.3%.
You didn't bring up any of the red states that had declining populations.
It's an interesting fact, and I don't see it on here.
The interesting omitted fact.
What's that?
Per capita, more Floridians moved to California than Californians moving to Florida.
That, I don't imagine, is in one of your eight slides.
Let me take another stab at this.
In 2021, California had 7.8% of GDP growth in this country, one of the fastest-growing economies anywhere on planet Earth.
This state continues to be the tenth pole of the American economy.
25.6% of all American jobs came from this state in April.
In the last two fiscal years, we enjoyed $177.7 billion in operating surpluses.
We're on our way to be the fourth largest economy.
Eat your heart out, Germany, in the world.
Number one in RD, venture capital, more scientists, researchers, more Nobel laureates, more patents emanating out of this state than any other state in America.
With all due respect, Florida doesn't even come close.
Eat your heart out, Texas.
California continues to be the dominant economic engine for the American.
I promised you before this interview, I would let you give full answers.
That's a full answer.
Thank you.
Okay.
Now I'm going to challenge it.
Good.
And the challenge is, this is the first time in the history of the state that you've lost population.
Yes.
The first time.
Right.
Now, I'm going to give you another sheet here.
And this is about income tax.
Your state income tax is 13.3% at the highest number.
I also did more digging.
The top 1% of Californians pay 50% of that total income tax bill.
Fully half.
Roughly.
That's redistribution of wealth, isn't it?
Well, it's progressive tax policy.
Now, look at yours, 13.3.
What is Florida?
What does that say?
It says zero.
Well, it's factually untrue.
It's not zero.
They have zero.
Well, the top 1% pay pay.
Look, you're promoting.
Is that a lie?
No, here's what you're promoting.
You're promoting regressive tax policy.
We don't believe in regressive tax policy.
You're promoting one component of the entire tax system, the 1%.
With all due respect, you and I may pay the 1%.
The vast majority of people watching don't.
You pay more taxes in states like Texas for the middle class than you do in states like California.
Hold on, no, no, no.
We have too many communities.
American people don't know this.
We have the highest tax rate for the 1%, but middle-class families actually pay less than the majority of states in America, in California.
The question is: who are you for?
So who are you fighting for?
I am for.
I'm just wondering, because I have homes in Florida.
You pay a lot of property tax there.
Double what you pay in California.
I would think twice.
Except if you add the millionaire property tax that you've just put in LA County.
No, that's a transfer tax, and we didn't do that.
That was transfer taxes like a half a million.
A million dollars.
I don't know if you can even get health insurance down there.
So you're telling me the loss of net population.
18 states, we were number 13.
18.3%.
And this number here, 13.3%.
Now, every California.
We've had for a decade.
Okay.
Right.
And you supported it for a decade.
The public actually initiated it.
Okay.
It was supported by the public.
But the point is, Florida has zero.
The net population growth, hang on, per Florida is almost 10%.
It's almost 1,000 people a day, and you're losing 800 people.
I respect.
Wait, my question.
Is this connected to that?
No, I respect your audience too much to let them be misled on this.
The audience is alive in that rarefund.
No.
This is a lie.
You're manipulating some fundamental facts.
You're omitting the fact that the vast majority of people do not live in the 1%.
You're talking about the 1% tax rate.
1% pays half of it.
Yeah, I understand that.
But I'm talking about the American people don't live there.
And the reality is when they live in Texas versus California, middle class pay more than they do in the state of California.
This is higher tax than Florida, that's for sure.
And your view seems to be with Ron DeSantis.
No, man, we could talk about it.
The kidnapper, we'll get into that in a little bit.
You know, here's my point.
We've had a progressive tax.
I didn't establish the 13.3%.
That was done before I even got here.
I've opposed new increases in the top 1% tax.
I oppose the statewide wealth tax.
I've never been a profligate Democrat.
I balance budgets.
We make the hard choices.
I'm a business guy starting to get a lot of people.
I have a deficit of $32 billion this year.
This state, we dominate in venture capital, innovation.
We have the finest system of public higher education anywhere on planet Earth.
We convey more talent than any place on the planet.
This state, RD, what did Tesla just do?
They moved back into the state of California.
Disney's moving their jobs back from Florida in the state of California.
You didn't acknowledge per capita more Floridians coming back to California than Californians going to Florida.
This was an anomalous.
18 states saw decline.
I love this state.
Don't count us out.
I've been here in this bash all my life.
I am not, but I have a list of all the state headquarters, and I'll scroll them on our screen.
And you could take a look at them.
These are all the corporations that have left your state.
And we're creating their corporate headquarters one after another, after another.
There's a lot.
So, what I'm pointing out is: how many jobs are we creating?
How many unicorn companies?
How many IPOs?
Three times Florida, twice the number of Texas.
Don't omit all of the facts.
Okay, but that's lastly.
Okay, I'm asking you not to admit all the facts.
So we have all these corporations.
Let me give you a list here.
Here's the whole list: Tesla, Apple, Nestle, or RD.
Their business headquarters out of your state.
Yeah, and how many jobs they keep in the middle of the state?
Here's the whole list.
I gave you a lot of people who have been in the middle of the street and how many jobs left with them.
How many jobs?
No, but you need to know none.
It was insignificant in consequence.
We create more companies every single day, more millionaires.
I'm scrolling these one-half of America's $1 billion valued companies are in the state of California.
This state economy has outperformed the nation, 3.1% in the last decade, 2.1% nationwide.
I've been hearing this nonsense for half a century, literally half a century.
But they've only left in recent years.
How many have we created?
How many new IPOs?
How many new opportunities?
How many jobs were taken out of the state of California when Tesla moved its headquarters?
You don't know that because it was insignificant.
Let me ask about quality of life issues.
When you have.
I'll give you these back, by the way.
I'm well aware of these facts.
I think if you put them around the governor's mansion, this is going to be a classic interview.
You know, listen, it may seem, and you're very, I appreciate your passion for your state.
I love it.
I appreciate the fact that you fight for the things you believe in.
You know, and this goes back to the original premise of not only this discussion, because this really is a friendly discussion.
No, I know.
There's no personal animus between us.
It's just I don't agree with your views.
You're very good at giving reason and rationale for losing population and higher state income tax.
And now I'm going to ask you about the homeless population.
But you have stores now in San Francisco because of smash and grab robberies.
They're leaving.
You know, Walgreens is one.
I think Target is the other.
There's at least three.
Whole Foods is another.
You're leaving San Francisco.
Okay.
So my question to you is between taxes, bureaucracy, crime, homelessness, and the homeless numbers are not really good for you in your state versus acknowledge that.
And no, I wouldn't compare ourselves to anyone.
It's a disgrace, the homeless issue out there.
In 2008, you had a 10-year plan.
Yeah, I got the tape.
Let me play it for you.
Let's do it.
San Francisco.
We believe fundamentally that food solves hunger, that shelters solve sleep, and that housing solves homelessness.
And if we're going to solve the problem of those that are out on the streets that we define as homeless, we better solve the housing problem if we're going to have an impact.
And that's why we established this framework, what we call a 10-year plan to end chronic homeless in San Francisco.
In San Francisco.
Okay, here we are.
You want to know the results after 10 years?
Okay, here's the comparison.
No, I don't need to look at my charts.
I know you would charts.
I know the charts.
I know these charts so well.
After 10 years, we've reduced the street population by 33%.
You know what?
I'm proud of the fact we established a goal.
We did it with the Bush administration, with Republicans.
We did it with a framework where we were actually identified by George W. Bush as one of the leaders in terms of establishing not only a framework of a plan, but delivering on what we promoted and promised.
And I agree with you.
You know, Michelangelo said it best.
The biggest risk in life is not that we aim too low and reach it.
It's we aim too high and miss it, rather the opposite.
My point being, we have to be audacious.
And in so doing, we actually made progress.
This state has not made progress in the last two decades as it relates to homelessness.
Why?
Because housing costs are too high.
Our regulatory thickets are too problematic.
Localism has been too impactful, meaning people locally are pushing back against new housing starts and construction.
I've been here four years.
I can't make up for the fact in 2005, we had an historic number of homeless under Republican administration.
Right now, there's 171,000 disgraceful.
Okay.
Disgraceful.
And all right, I'll compare it to Florida again.
26,000.
Of course.
Okay, same weather.
It's a similar state.
And I've lived in both.
Dynamics are very different.
That said, we own this, Sean.
I'm not here to defend it.
But here's the difference.
Well, you're going to build 1,200 homes this year, I read.
That's not true.
You have a proposal.
We said 68,000 people off the streets last year.
And by the way, that's been politi fact, 68,000.
I have a $15.3 billion homeless plan.
When I got here, it was half a billion dollars.
The state of California was not involved in the homeless issue.
We got involved.
We're holding cities and counties accountable.
I'm suing cities that are not producing housing.
We actually have a 15-year high in new housing starts in the state of California.
We're actually seeing programs produce real results, but I want accountability.
I'm not the mayor of California.
I'm governor of states larger than 21 states, populations combined.
And the difference between me and most politicians is I own this.
I take responsibility for this.
This is personal to me.
I love this state.
I don't like what's happening with the encampments.
I respect that.
I don't like what's happening in the streets and sidewalks.
I don't like the bashing of mild city San Francisco.
Whole Foods did shut down one business, but it was a bad location to begin with.
They're opening a new one.
We have 2.7%.
I just was out here recently with a team, and I said, Don't go to the wharf.
Certain parts are bad, and we own that.
I just put the National Guard and the CHP down there, hundreds of millions.
And by the way, you mentioned defund police.
Don't accuse me of that.
I've never been part of that.
I have a quote of you saying you didn't want to build any more border wall.
That quote I have.
Because it was sort of farcical, this notion that somehow you're going to have a physical structure that's 2,000 miles long.
With all due respect, I sit here watching a former president say he did it, and somehow Mexico paid for it.
It's laughable, those are certainly.
Well, you got a better trade deal with Mexico and Canada than Afghanistan.
I'm not here to take a cheap shot on that for.
All right, quick break.
We'll come right back.
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