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June 6, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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Thank you, Scott Shannon, and thanks to all of you for being with us.
800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, he is looking into the very serious allegations of whether the FBI has been politicized and the DOJ has been weaponized.
We have a lot of new developments that talked some about it in the last hour.
Uh, and that is Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan is with us.
Sir, how are you?
I'm fine, Sean.
Good to be with you, brother.
Well, let me start with the chattering class and the reports that are out today that the grand jury and the Trump classified document case, uh, apparently meeting today and and maybe later in this week, uh, and rumors running rampant of a possible indictment of former President Trump.
Uh apparently not one, but now two meetings have taken place at Merrick Garland's Justice Department with Trump lawyers.
Are you hearing the same?
Yeah, I am, and it's it's just more of the same.
I mean, we've talked about this many times before, but in 2016 they spied on his campaign.
Read the Durham report.
You the details he adds to that, what took place there are so disgusting, so wrong.
So 2016 they spawned his campaign.
Twenty eighteen, it's the Mueller investigation.
Twenty twenty they suppressed the Biden laptop story, you know, the 51 former Intel officials and all how that game was played.
And then in 2022, they raided his home 91 days before an election.
Now in 2023, heading into the presidential election, first you have Alvin Bragg and his ridiculous, ridiculous using federal money to go after a president for no crime.
You have that, you have what Fonnie Willis is looking to do in in Georgia, which is also ridiculous.
And it looks like now the special counsel is going to indict the president on the classified document issue, or some kind of instruction charge if you can believe what's written in the press.
So it never stops with these folks.
And it's like this started in 2016 and it is continuing now for eight years.
And it is wrong as wrong can be.
You know, and you've got to look at the double standard, which is what your committee is really fully, completely looking into.
I mean, the Durham report was clear.
There was no evidence warranting such.
Uh the double standard in terms of how Killary Clinton was was treated.
James Comey's, you know, famous July 2016 presser, no reasonable prosecutor, whatever prosecute.
Uh meanwhile, 33,000 subpoenaed emails were deleted with bleach bit.
We had devices destroyed with hammers, sim cards removed, uh, and and then you can add to that the dirty Russian disinformation dossier, which became the foundational, you know, piece.
Even Andrew McCabe said without it, they wouldn't have gotten the Pfizer warrant approved of not one before FISA applications approved, three of which were signed by Jim Comey.
And and yet nobody in these in these cases have been held accountable.
That leads to 2020 in that presidential election, pre-bunking the very real Hunter Biden laptop story by you know the FBI even paying Twitter three and a half million dollars and telling all these big tech companies they meet me weekly met with that uh there might be misinformation uh campaigns uh against your tech company and it might be about Joe and Hunter Biden.
I mean, how how much weight can they put on the scales of of presidential elections and continue to s to remain a valid agency?
Yeah, go go to uh Sean.
I hope your listeners will go to page 88 of the Durham report.
Understand when they started all the all you said is exactly right.
That that's a that's this double standard.
The Clinton campaign got a defensive brief and they wouldn't do that for Trump back in 2016.
But the the best what one of the key parts in this in this document is what on page 88, where one of the agents who was working on the crossfire hurricane uh investigations interviewed by Durham.
So understand back in 2016, there was credible intelligence that comes to our intelligence community that said, hey, we think this whole Trump Russia stuff is a complete made-up story from the Clinton campaign.
Credible intelligence saying that.
So John Brennan briefed Obama, Biden, Comey, and Lynch, and then they put together a memo and they send that memo.
The intelligence community sends that memo to to Jim Comey and Peter Strzok.
Jim Comey and Peter Strutt do not share that memorandum with the agents doing the case, doing conducting the the investigation of the crossfire hurricane investigation.
When Durham interviews one of those key agents who was on the crossfire hurricane case, he hands him that memo.
The agent reviews that memo, and then Durham reports in in his uh says in his report, that individual became visibly upset, emotionally upset, gets up, walks out the room, comes back in and says, We should have had that memo.
That could have changed things.
So Comey and Strzok kept that information, key information, exculpatory information, kept it from the guys doing the investigation.
That's how biased this investigation was, and this double standard that we all know, all your listeners, all your viewers know exist, unfortunately, in our country.
Well, now between your investigation and Comer's investigation, apparently the Congress, you're now investigating whether the FBI used Russian disinformation's claim to shut down the Biden inquiries, meaning into Hunter.
Now they've had that laptop since 2019.
I mean, what I'm trying to get at here is Jim, is there equal justice under the law and application of our laws?
Because you know what?
There is a special counsel appointed to look into Joe Biden and his his document, top secret classified document issues.
And we don't heard here word one about him.
Haven't heard about any grand jury.
You haven't heard about people being brought in and brought out on a regular basis.
So you have one special counsel acting one way and another seems completely, I mean, utterly completely missing in action.
Even though Joe Biden had classified documents at four different locations, for goodness sake.
And even though he was never president when he when he took those classified documents and and stored them at four different locations, President Trump was president who is the person who had under our constitution as the ultimate authority on deciding whether something is classified or not.
So yeah, this is it drives me crazy.
It drives I know your viewers and listeners crazy, and certainly the just just in general drives the American people crazy because it's not supposed to be that way in our great country.
It is supposed to be equal treatment under the law, and it sure doesn't seem like that's the case.
And now we have this document that that they won't even give to won't even make public even though it's not classified.
They finally let Chairman Comer go see it based on what he now think about this, Sean.
This is a document produced by our FBI, a 1023, a document produced by them, and the document says that they had a confidential human source, a trusted confidential human source who they paid hundreds of thousands of dollars over over a decade of service to the FBI, and that confidential human source is reporting that Joe Biden and a foreign national talked about money for certain actions.
That's what it said.
That's what Mr. Comer has said.
And yet three weeks ago they wouldn't even confirm whether it existed.
Now they're confirming it it exists, it's not classified, but they won't let the American people see it.
That's a problem.
That is not again how our government is supposed to operate, and that's why Chairman Comer is so so persistent in trying to make sure the country gets to see this document.
What about this report by Paul Sperry?
It has to do with your announcement that you're investigating the special counsel looking into Trump and is mishandling a classified documents.
What exactly is that investigation about?
No, we're just we we want to know what what kind of crossover, if any, exists between folks who worked on the Mueller investigation and folks who may be working with Jack Smith.
And we we we know when when Jack Smith was first named as special counsel last last fall, we we know this was a guy who was involved in the whole the whole targeting of conservatives back when the IRS was doing it.
He was looking at ways they could prosecute those individuals.
So we just want to know is there some crossover with some of the same agents, some of the same people, same same same apparatus.
We just want to know those kind of questions.
But we think that's important for the country to know uh as all this unfolds, particularly in in the context of this of the Durham report, which looked at what how Mueller handled this and how the FBI handled it and all the problems, all the things they did wrong.
Okay, but the Raid of Mar-a-Lago was done by the Washington, D.C. counterintelligence division.
At any point, correct me if I'm wrong.
Uh, and they are the same people, same group of people that led the Russia collusion uh crossfire hurricane hoax.
And anyway, so Strck is fired after his vitriolic anti-Trump tweets were revealed, but members apparently of his team remain working in the counterintelligence unit, and and one particular analyst, uh I won't mention his name, but uh you know, apparently continue to be involved in in these politically sensitive investigations.
Uh but this is a particular guy that Michael Horowitz himself pointed out that should be investigated, didn't he?
Didn't they?
Yeah, well, some of those some of the individuals that that uh that were involved with the crossfire hurricane did refused to be interviewed by Mr. Durham.
So we we we you know they he didn't get to talk to him.
Again, what we're trying to figure out is what kind of crossover may exist, who in the Mueller investigation is part of this, uh the the Jack Smith investigation.
We'd like to know that because I think that's relevant information for the American people.
We're gonna continue to dig into that, just like Chairman Comers is is going to continue to work on trying to get this document made public for the American people.
Okay, so I guess where I'm going with all of this is you know, the American people have watched Lois Lerner, they watch Crossfire Hurricane, they watched all these people, they know it's all true.
They know that the media lied for years and the likes of Adam Schiff and the Democratic Party lie to them for years, and this information comes out and the Durham report hits with a thud, you know, deafening silence by the very people for three years that push this narrative and th these lies and these conspiracy theories.
You know, so now here we go.
What is is this the next level?
Uh we have two special counsels, but only the one going after Trump is is gonna go forward with an indictment.
Uh they have the same FBI as it has Hunter Biden's laptop since twenty nineteen and and still nothing with Hunter Biden.
I mean, what does that mean for the Republicans and the and their funding of the FBI and other three letter agencies going forward?
Well, uh a couple things.
One, we we we do have to look at what we allow money to be spent on.
We definitely can't allow the FBI to have resources to build a new headquarters.
That makes no sense.
So that's by the way, that headquarters is twice the size of the Pentagon they want to build.
Yeah.
So we can't we can't have we can't have that.
Uh second, June twenty-first, Mr. Durham will be testifying in a public hearing in front of the judiciary committee.
We're gonna focus on all these issues in particular all the wrong things that happened in the Mueller investigation and the initial investigation, crossfire hurricane investigation.
Uh finally, I would say this.
This document that Chairman Comer's pursuing, I haven't seen it.
But my gut tells me, I have a hunch that it's a lot more compelling than the dossier ever was.
The dossier that the Durham says they did not they did not substantiate one claim in the dot they did not confirm, corroborate any substantial claim, any substantial allegation made in the dossier, but that thing was used two days after they got it, they put it in the draft visa uh uh uh uh uh uh uh documents to to go to the court two days after they got it without confirming anything.
Now Mike But wait a minute, but but they but they knew ahead of time, because that was late October when that do when that FISA application uh was in.
But they sent FBI agents across the pond to meet with Christopher Steele and offered him a million dollar bounty, and then he couldn't he couldn't if he could corroborate any part of the dossier, he couldn't corroborate any of it.
Couldn't corroborate it, couldn't validate it, they used it anyway.
They got the DOS canal on September nineteenth, they used it in October in the thing, but they got the day they got it two days later, they put it in the draft, the draft FISA, and then they used it in the official PISA that to take to the court that quick because they were so eager to go after Trump.
And it continues to this day.
That is the key takeaway here.
So we're we want to make sure the country we're gonna do the best we can in this this committee hearing coming up on the twenty first to make sure the country understands just how bad it was at the start and how that frankly, in my j in my mind, continues to this day.
So we've had the church committees.
I mean, is is there a need for a top to bottom, you know, purging, cleansing, reevaluation of the purpose and the the politics that is now clearly infiltrated, you know, this what was once the world's premier law enforcement agency?
Yeah, but we don't need a church commission, because remember the church commission is is uh is the uh commission that gave us FISA.
We know all the abuses there.
There are two hundred and seventy-eight thousand reasons why FISA needs to be changed for goodness sake.
We saw that three weeks ago in that report that said Americans 278,000 times had their data illegally searched by the FBI.
So uh we we we don't want that.
What we want is for Mr. Comer, for our committee and all the other committees in Congress under Republican control to do our investigative work, do our oversight work, come up with legislation that makes sense, pass that legislation, send it to the Senate, we'll see what happens there, and then as you said earlier, Sean, look at the appropriations process and say, what can we do to l we got all kinds of writers, all kinds of policy writers we're gonna put on the appropriation bills to limit the ability of these agencies to target the American people.
Do you think that that's happening to a greater extent than we ever knew?
I mean, James Comey is saying, Oh, I hope they do uh even a better job in twenty uh twenty-four than we did in twenty sixteen, and I'm like, really?
As if enough damage wasn't done.
Yeah.
No, I I I do think we are going to get good language in these bills that and now based on the the agreement last week, I think we have a much better framework for actually getting appropriation bills passed with the limiting language, the li For example, when we fund the Department of Homeland Security, we have to have legislation that says not one single penny of taxpayer money can be used in any way to label American speech misinformation, disinformation, malinformation, no di no disinformation governance board can be formed.
We have to do those kind of things so that our tax and if you do that kind of stuff, you're gonna be held responsible for that's the kind of language we gotta get in the in as an example in these bills, both in the Justice Department uh appropriation bill and the Homeland Security Appropriations Bill.
Do you believe it's just a top-down problem, or has the cancer spread throughout the entire agency?
I still think it's largely at the top, but I do think there's been some spread, as evidenced by what we saw in the Richmond Field Office, where the Richmond Field Office put together that memorandum that said if you're a pro-life, pro-family Catholic, you're radical, you're extremist.
So you there's been some filtering out, but by and large, I think the vast, vast majority of agents like you do, Sean, are good men and women serving our country.
The problem is in DC at the highest level.
All right, Jim Jordan, Chair, House Judiciary Committee, sir.
Thank you.
We appreciate you being with us.
Thank you.
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Uh by the way, you want to talk about media coverage and just what a bunch of phony lying, you know.
I mean there's so a biased and abusively dishonest and and corrupt.
It's just so transparent on every issue.
You know, imagine if I spent three years on this program pushing a hoax and a conspiracy theory about Democrats and and their collusion with Russia, and it all turned out to be false.
Well, you think uh maybe there'd be some criticism of me, maybe a push, a demand to get me to retract, apologize, oops, oopsie daisy.
I got it wrong every single solitary hour of every day, almost for three straight years.
But of course, there's nothing.
You know, the double standard.
I mean, you know, Joe Biden, you know, trips and and falls and you know, can barely utter a few sentences or put it together.
They have ignored most of that.
And then the New York Times over the weekend just just totally completely, as I mentioned earlier, apologetic over this.
And, you know, just just listen to his bizarre gaff uh filled speech before the fall at the Air Force commencement exercise last Thursday.
It wasn't all push-ups and cramming for Prague Week, though uh to set the Guinness Book of Records, World Records.
Most simultaneous push-ups had to be an enormous amount of push-ups.
How about doing loops and bowel rolls on the glider?
I ask if I could do that today to stream and the uh Secret Service says, no, we'll have to shoot it down.
By the way, I met with uh who those guys that fly over shortly?
You heard of how many?
Three of them are women.
And your class is one of the diverse most diverse classes in the history of this academy or any academy to graduate.
That's why we're strong.
That's why we're who we are.
That's why we'll never give up.
That's why.
Stop screaming, Joe.
Uh that that's his way to compensate for his cognitive mess of uh of a state that it's in.
He slips and he falls, and and as I mentioned earlier, I mean, the apology from the New York Times, you know, the complicated reality of being America's oldest president in private, some White House officials acknowledge that they make what they consider reasonable accommodations not to physically tax an aging president, and the staff scheduling his public appearances between noon and four PM.
Leave him alone on weekends, let him go nap nap time at nine uh at seven uh PM every night.
And uh, you know, it's uh he's a little slower, a little softer, a little harder of hearing, a little more tentative in his walk.
Yeah.
Uh and how did they treat Donald Trump on a rainy day when he was walking down that ramp with dress shoes on?
It's not like he had rubber shoe rubber soles on on the shoes of his feet.
Any of you have ever walked in the snow with dress shoes on knows exactly what that feeling is like, so he walks gingerly down the wet, rainy slope that didn't even have a a guardrail.
Anyway, compare the difference.
President Trump is now the oldest president to hold office during a first term as he celebrated his seventy-fourth birthday yesterday.
However, this milestone is bringing up new questions about his health, uh, particularly over the moment um with this weekend where he cautiously descended a ramp uh during the commencement speech at West Point Academy.
Tonight, new questions about President Trump's health.
After this walk down a ramp at West Point's graduation ceremony this weekend.
One doesn't need to be a physician to note that the president hasn't looked well recently and he didn't look well on Saturday, having momentary uh stumbles, uh momentary laughs in, you know, and looks restraining for a word or whatever uh it might be.
President Trump is not known for being athletic.
So maybe he just has a hard time going down a gently sloping ramp.
But um, do you see something possibly neurological that could be throwing off his balance?
Yeah, the only ones that are off balance are in the media.
Uh 800 941 Sean, if you want uh to uh be a part of the program.
Uh Doug in Texas, Doug, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
How are you, sir?
Hey, Sean.
Thank you for taking my call.
Uh I wanted to ask you a question since you know DeSantis and you know Donald Trump.
The question is, would they put their own personal interests and agendas first before the American people and the country?
Or would they do what's best for the American country?
Uh wait a minute.
So will they put their personal difference aside for the good of the country?
And you ba you're basically asking me the same thing, are you?
Well, what I'm asking is would they do what's best for the country first before their own personal interests?
And the reason I'm asking this is I think if Trump was to get four more years, and I would like DeSantis to run as vice president.
And because either if either one of them won, they're both going to ha face the same problem.
They're going to be constantly attacked by the left.
But with them two working together, it would be a powerhouse.
It'd be an unstoppable force.
And they both listen, you're you're you're one of many, many people that have asked me about this, and and I kind of think, honestly, and I'm being blunt here, that that ship has sailed, and that there, you know, that there's there's bad blood.
Um I think Donald Trump's given his reason.
Ron DeSantis has responded to it.
You know, but I mean, we have rumors running rampant all week that uh there might be a possible indictment of Donald Trump with the special counsel uh regarding the the Mar-a-Lago raid.
I mean, you know, uh anything can change at a moment's notice.
How ironic would that be, considering they've had Hunter Biden's laptop since twenty nineteen, and of course nothing happens.
But uh and Joe Biden has far more in terms of top secret classified documents than Trump has.
So, you know, we're in a situation where I I just think things are too fluid.
I don't know what the what the political reality is going to be for either of them.
I just know that if Joe Biden is ever re-elected, we're screwed.
Yes, sir.
Um that's putting it mildly, yeah.
I just feel that they would they could accomplish so much together, and Trump can finish out the four years, and then afterwards uh DeSantis would have the experience.
Listen, do I do I like the idea on paper?
Yeah, I do like the idea on paper.
And then the the ar the irony is, you know, Trump was a big supporter of DeSantis and DeSantis was a big supporter of Trump.
And you know, but I'm telling you, having done more than a few of these, you know, primaries over the years, it's pretty much at some point it becomes par for the course.
There's no stopping it.
It's it's it's gonna eventually deteriorate into what you now see in the beginning of the process.
Usually you see it at the end of the process.
Okay.
Okay.
Yes, sir.
You know, blessed are the peacemakers, though, Doug.
Uh, because the uh kingdom of I guess Earth will be inherited by you.
Chris Tennessee, next Sean Hannity show.
Hey, how are you doing, sir?
How are you?
Yeah, good.
I just want to comment about Joe Kennedy.
Um I've been watching his campaign and about Joe Kennedy, you mean about Robert Kennedy?
Robert, I'm sorry, Robert Kennedy Jr.
Yeah.
I'm just I'm concerned about the uh unless there was a lot of information about Code Pink on there.
And it was a little bit disheartening.
Uh I was kind of hoping he was gonna be more like his dad, but doesn't I don't really think it's gonna be that way.
But anyway, that's that's kind of where I'm looking.
Well, the the phenomenon that is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and is he takes a lot of positions that uh go against the the radical left of his own party.
You know, look at his positions on vaccines.
Um now I notice that the media is taking a calling him a conspiracy theorist, but he's getting twenty-one percent of the polling against the sitting, you know, president.
That's a big number.
That is not a small number.
That is not that that's a number the Biden people have to pay real attention to, and then another ten percent is being siphoned away by Mary and Williamson, which I didn't think would happen either.
Right, I I got you, but uh I'm more concerned on how he'll govern if he actually wanted to become president.
You know, I you know, look, I'll give him more time.
Um I'll even offer him a town hall if he wants.
Honestly, the only one I'm really not interested at all in talking to is because he's got such a uh uh twisted agenda as part of the whole process is Chris Christie.
You know, if you if you're just running, you know, look, the guy left the governorship in New Jersey with the 14% approval rating.
Um, you know, and then you know, he's he's acting as the Liz Cheney in this race instead of Liz Cheney running.
And if that's if that's his agenda, I'm not really interested in talking to him.
I hate Donald Trump.
Okay, what's your next point?
How are you gonna fix America?
Are you really running because you want to win the nomination?
Because that's not a winning platform.
Yeah, I think he's I think he's basically they're just knee cap Trump.
I think that's gonna be his job.
I that's the way I look at that one, sir.
But if I if I had my say, I would like to see Trump at DeSantis.
I think even if Trump, let's say you put Trump over the FBI, that would be a great team.
But I I realize they're not gonna work together, so I guess that's uh Michel think.
Yeah, look, my take is it's wishful thinking, and um, but a lot of people want it.
I can tell you that right now.
A lot of people don't like the infighting, especially this early in the process.
Um and I'm just hearing that a lot.
I'm just stating what is a fact.
Uh but you know, it's i uh as I tell you, it's just a matter of when, not if that's gonna happen anyway.
Anyway, Chris, uh appreciate the call, my friend 800-941 Sean, our number if you want to be a part of the program.
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Um David Virginia, next Sean Hannity show.
How are you?
Great.
Pleasure to talk to you.
I gotta tell you, my heart is troubled because our politicians have forgotten exactly what they're elected for.
You look at the House of Representatives, their constitutional duty number one is to uh set spending.
And they put it off like bad school kids who waited till they were about to fail the course before they did their homework.
Well, it's not I I don't think they put it off.
In fairness to them, they were trying to engage the you know Joe Biden from the beginning.
If anything, I think in the end they gave much more than they otherwise needed to.
And, you know, I I've talked to a lot of people, all the different factions in the Republican Party, and there's been some anger and angst, and I think going forward, hopefully they'll do it better, but I wouldn't have I wouldn't have voted for that bill.
No, I agree.
I wouldn't have voted for it either.
Uh and if they had been earlier to the punch and been on the TV every day, starting back in January about this, um, you know, it would have been a lot better for everyone.
He would have had Joe would have had to uh wake up or his handlers would have had to wake up and and well, in fairness to Kevin on the one front, I mean, he was calling out Joe and asking for a a meeting pretty much every day.
Yeah, about the last 30, 45 days, he sure was.
Uh I'm certainly not thrilled with Joe.
Uh any legitimate government's first duty is protect its citizens, and he's left eight million unknowns into our country illegally.
Yeah, he's not exactly following the laws of the land, is he?
He's aiding in a it's take he's taking it a step further.
He's aiding and he's a betting in the law breaking.
You know what?
He should be held accountable for that too.
Now that's why it's going to be very interesting.
You know, look, rumors come and go.
There'd been rumors that Hunter Biden's indictment was imminent.
Now we're hearing that there might be an indictment from the special counsel.
That's those rumors are everywhere.
And I don't know if there's any truth to them.
We'll know as the week unfolds as it relates to Donald Trump.
But I mean, at what point, you know, uh the American people see this it's no longer about prosecution.
This is a persecution.
And at some point, America's got to look at, you know, how much how many people are going to run for office with a platform to go after one man, one family, one organization, and follow through on it when they get elected in these powerful positions.
Because that's not equal justice or application of our laws.
Uh anyway, let's say hi to Lee in Ohio.
Leo, we got about a minute and a half.
All yours.
All righty.
What I wanted to ask was this do you think it would be feasible for Donald Trump to just um throw a blanket lawsuit out on um the media and the FBI and the DOJ.
Um because we now have the Durham report, which would, you know, exonerate a lot of things that he had said.
And if the lawsuit was pending, they that they couldn't badmouth him.
They couldn't throw all this bad PR out on him.
The problem is uh it's a great idea.
Uh I know they've looked into it, and my understanding is uh it is next to impossible to sue the government and to do it successfully.
Well, what about the news agencies?
I mean, why don't they just throw a Kyle Wittenhouse on them?
You know, they ran that poor boy through the ringer for over a year.
And the the d the difference is he wasn't a public figure.
You know, this this is where Times v.
Sullivan comes into effect.
You know, look, it's one of the reasons in my life I can't fight back when I'm light about it.
Sucks.
I mean I'm flat out light about.
And there's nothing I can do to defend myself.
Nothing.
So I understand it goes with the territory.
I'm a big boy.
I can take the hits.
I understand it's part of my job, but you know, trust me, the there's a fundamental unfairness to all that.
And, you know, proving malice is is a very, very high standard.
And it just I don't I don't think you can get there easily, put it that way.
Anyway, uh appreciate the call, my friend.
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