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May 11, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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Biden Family - May 10th, Hour 3
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If you want to be a part of the program, well, this whole issue of the Biden family, their quote, secret empire, if you will, or what I call the Biden family syndicate, a lot of it started by one guy by the name of Peter Schweitzer back in 2018 right here on this program where he began the process of exposing and chronicling all of these issues with the Bidens and their foreign business dealings.
And he did it with the release of his book, Secret Empires.
We launched it on radio and TV that day for him.
And he's been right ever since.
And he's gone even deeper since then as well.
He's with the Government Accountability Institute, as well as Eric Eggers.
Peter Schweitzer and Eric, welcome back to the program.
Thanks, Sean.
Great to be with you.
Peter Schweitzer, let's first get your reaction to today, and that is that Biden's using this web of shell companies to conceal all this foreign cash and bank records.
And I think we knew that Joe knew all about this when he bragged about withholding a billion dollars in Ukraine in exchange for a prosecutor to be fired who was investigating his son, who went on GMA and admitted he had no experience.
Yeah, Sean, I mean, look, what this committee is able to do is use its subpoena power to collect details and records and evidence for what you and I talked about five years ago.
And it's all being confirmed.
What I think we all have to keep in mind is that this committee is at the beginning of their investigation.
What they're talking about are really drawn from four banks.
There are 12 banks that are believed to be linked to the Bidens that the committee has asked for subpoenaed financial records from.
They're only talking about four banks routing right now.
There are another eight.
So I think we need to keep in mind this is not the committee sort of shooting everything that they have.
This is the beginning of an investigation.
And I think we're going to see a continued accumulation of money, the amount of money.
They say right now it's at 10 million.
I think it's going to be double, triple that amount.
And I think some of the other entities in China are going to emerge.
Right now they're talking about CEFC, this energy company, and the chairman of that, Chairman Yi.
But I think we're going to see the other deals that we've talked about, BHR, the private equity firm, some of the dealings they had with Henry Zhao and others.
Those are going to come forward.
So I applaud the committee for what they're doing.
And I think people just need to be patient as they accumulate more material and they actually start getting people on the record that they subpoena to appear before the committee.
When they talked about money today, I did think about you, Peter Schweitzer, because you talked about very early on a billion-dollar deal with Hunter 10 days after a trip to Asia and stopping in China with his father, a billion-dollar deal with the Bank of China that ultimately became a $1.5 billion deal with the Bank of China.
They're only talking about $10 million here.
We have discussed a $100,000 shopping spree with a Chinese national.
We talked about a $5 million no-interest forgivable loan.
Are those figures correct?
Do you believe that eventually they'll get to those numbers?
Yes, I think they will.
Now, the billion and a half deal, let's remember, and I know during the 2020 campaign, this got misstated sometimes on the campaign stump.
It was never the case that Hunter Biden received a billion and a half dollars.
Hunter Biden was given an ownership stake in a private equity fund that was funded by the Chinese government.
The Chinese government put a billion and a half dollars into it.
Hunter Biden was made a partner, even though he had no background and experience in finance.
And his ownership stake of that management company has been estimated by the University of Chicago Business School to be worth about $20 million.
Now, was that equity share turned over to the guy that paid his tax bills, I believe, $2.8 million?
Well, that's one of the things that is being explored.
There's been a debate about when Hunter sold his stake, if in fact he sold his stake, whether he sold his stake to the lawyer who's paying his bills at fair market price.
We don't know yet.
I think that's one of the things that the committee will get.
But to your larger point, you're exactly right.
We know that, for example, the Henry Zhao wiring a $5 million payment to Hunter Biden.
We know about that because it was on the laptop.
And the wire transfers released by the U.S. Senate in 2020 confirm that.
The House committee has not gotten to that transaction yet.
They have not got to the BHR private equity fund.
So yes, we are going to see.
Right now they say they're at 10 million.
I believe we're going to get to 30 million or so by the time all of this is done.
And again, as the committee emphasized, so important to Sean, there is no discernible business service that the Bidens provided for this.
$5 million would be sent as quote-unquote good faith money, but nothing would ever result from it.
No business was set up.
No joint venture was set up.
And that's what I think the committee's wise to keep returning to.
Why are these individuals sending the Bidens money?
They're not stupid.
They don't hand out money for no reason.
That's what the Biden's, you onus should be on the Bidens to explain.
What were you getting paid to do?
All right, Eric Ergers, let me bring you into all of this.
I want to know what Joe knew and what he did when he knew it.
I want to know exactly how much money the Biden family syndicate did with every country.
How much was the deal worth?
How much did they profit from all of this?
Did Joe, in fact, benefit financially?
Did he take any specific actions that benefited the countries they were doing business with?
Because, I mean, obviously, we can't have a compromised president of the United States, but I would argue that was proven when Joe bragged about the Ukrainian firing of the prosecutor.
Eric.
Yeah, it would be ideal if we didn't have a compromised president of the United States.
Unfortunately, I think reality is the opposite of that.
And far be it from me to disagree with Peter Schweitzer, who's the president of the nonprofit.
Yeah, you're about to get fired if you do that.
Go ahead.
But I do think that we do know what the Biden business model was.
They were selling access to the White House, and I think they were essentially legitimizing these shady operations in the countries that Hunter Biden was doing business with.
We know from an email that Hunter Biden sent to Devin Archer that when Joe Biden gave a speech in Ukraine and encouraged Ukraine to invest in their own natural energy and not be relying on Russia for their gas, this is happening at the same time that Hunter is being paid by, guess what?
A Ukrainian natural energy company.
And so this, and then Hunter Biden takes that clip.
He sent it to Devin.
He says, let's make sure that the people that are paying us know that this is how we add value.
It's not an accident that Hunter Biden does business in the nether regions of the international business world.
He's not doing business in France.
He's not doing business in Canada.
He's doing business in Ukraine, China, and Romania.
These are places that just by showing up in a place near Hunter Biden, or excuse me, near President Biden or Vice President Biden, helps legitimize their operation.
And as it relates to has Joe Biden profited personally from it, well, think about it this way.
Joe Biden vacations in mansions.
He has beach homes.
This guy's been in the public service on the taxpayer doll for 40 plus years, yet he lives like a billionaire.
And I think the reason why that's happened is because the more that we know about the Biden financial empire, here's what we know.
The amount of money continues to increase.
The number of Bidens who personally profited continues to increase.
And Joe's role only continues to be closer to it.
You noted that Joe Biden lied initially when said he had no idea about Hunter Biden's business deals.
He's told lie after lie consistently.
And so I think that the next big lie will be that Joe Biden didn't personally profit from it.
And I think, as Peter noted, we're at the beginning of this process.
And the more documents that are uncovered, the closer Joe Biden gets, the more lucrative the financial arrangements have become.
And I think, unfortunately, the worse it looks for the president of the United States.
Well, I think we need to know what did the Biden family do for all these millions of dollars, especially when they had no experience.
You know, why so many LLCs?
Why was money being funneled to children, Peter Schweitzer?
Yeah, I mean, that's exactly right.
I mean, what we see with the Biden family is that money is fungible.
It gets moved around.
We know for a fact that when Joe Biden was vice president of the United States, Hunter was being paid by foreign entities and that Hunter Biden was paying some of his father's bills to the tune of tens or thousands of dollars.
That's just, I think, illustrative of the fact that money moves around the family in such a way.
And I think that, you know, it's a little bit off base, Sean.
People are looking for the quid pro quo.
And corruption doesn't always work that way.
I mean, corrupt people sometimes engage in a quid pro quo.
You're kind of stupid if you do because that's the legal standard and it's easy to prove you're going to jail.
But sometimes corruption is more of a retainer.
You're not paying for a specific act, but you're paying for access.
You're paying for generally favorable treatment.
And I think if you look at Joe Biden's positions as it relates to China, Ukraine, some of the dealings even with Russia going back, you find that Joe Biden took positions that were beneficial to people that were close to his son, Hunter, and his business partners.
And so the sort of the gold standard that Democrats are setting, prove the specific thing that Joe Biden did, is a ridiculous standard.
That's not how corruption works.
It's oftentimes more of a retainer model than it is a quid pro quo.
Yeah.
You know, I look at all of this here, and you've got a document showing $10 million in farm money flowing like a river.
You know, why so many shell corporations or shell companies?
Look, there are real LLCs.
And once I was accused of having a shell corporation, no, it was a real LLC that had my real money invested in it.
These companies all seem to only have been created for the financial benefit of the Biden family and members of the family.
And they seem to get transferred from one to the other to the other as a means of sort of obstructing or hiding where the money is actually originally coming from.
Eric Eggers.
No, that's absolutely right.
I think Chairman Comer said today, this is not the way legitimate people do business.
So why would the business, why would the Bidens set up their business enterprise this way?
And this is unfortunately more concrete evidence of what we've talked about before on your program, Sean, of how the Bidens go out of their way to intentionally obscure and make harder to track the flow of money from foreign governments, foreign businesses, into the Biden personal family fortune.
You know, I've talked before about how I think when Joe Biden was vice president, Hillary Clinton was secretary of state.
And one of the books that Peter Schweitz has done is Clinton Cash.
And he documented the flow of international money into the Clinton Global Initiative and the Clinton Foundation while she was Secretary of State's bill of being paid speeches.
And I think the Bidens learned from that because we talked in Clinton Cash about what we call the Clinton blur, the overlap of all these interests.
They're the Biden blur, and they do it on purpose.
We now know from emails that we've obtained that when the Biden Center was being set up at the University of Delaware and they have foreign money coming in to fund that, and some of that money is going to go for salaries and things of that nature.
The Bidens are emailing about how let's make sure Joe's name is not on any of these documents because then you might have additional disclosure requirements.
So they, at every turn, have actually been quite shrewd about obscuring and hiding just how involved and who involved in the Biden family and how much money they're getting to all to the tune of protecting the one engine that drives the Biden economy, and that's Joe Biden.
All right, we'll take a quick break, come back more with Peter Schweitzer and Eric Eggers of the Government Accountability Institute.
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All right, we continue with Peter Schweitzer and Eric Eggers.
You might remember Peter Schweitzer in 2018, right here on this show, launched his book, Secret Empires, where he began this narrative about the Biden family syndicate.
Where do you think this goes?
Last question, I'll throw to Peter Schweitzer.
Where is this going to end up?
I think we're going to see more revelations, and I think we're going to see a lot of heat put on the Department of Justice because we've got whistleblowers coming out from the IRS and from elsewhere that clearly indicate the Department of Justice has not investigated this.
When we first talked about this, Sean, five years ago, shortly after that, you called for an independent counsel because your argument was, I think, quite rightly so.
Can you really get a fair investigation here of the Biden family?
And I think the evidence is, though, you can't.
I still think we need to have an independent counsel.
I don't think we're going to get one.
But we finally have a Congress that is prepared to hold the Department of Justice and the Biden seat to the fire.
And that's something.
Do you think this now may alter what we have been anticipating now for weeks?
And that is the indictment against Hunter Biden on felony tax charges and a felony gun charge.
Do you think this now puts that indictment on hold while they look deeper into this?
In other words, are they forced to?
I think so.
I think it's going to become embarrassing now to the Department of Justice because they were able to shield most of the information from the American people.
And they could argue, well, we did something, right?
We got them on tax charges.
But when the American people see the flow of money, the fact that it is being provided, it's being hidden by the Bidens and who that source of money is coming from, I think it's going to be very hard for DOJ to continue down the path, which was we're going to ding him on felony tax evasion on this gun charge, but we're not going to get to the heart of the matter, which is the flow of foreign money and the fact that the Biden family and Joe benefited from it.
Unbelievable.
You were right in 2018.
And here we are.
Peter Schweitzer, thank you.
Secret Empires is the book.
I think you have a follow-up book coming out next year, if I'm not mistaken.
Is that right?
Yeah, January of next year.
That's right.
We look forward to the first interview, Peter.
Why ruin a great tradition?
Anyway, Eric Ergers and Peter Schweitzer, thank you both.
When we come back, we'll hit the phones: 800-941, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Barbara Marilyn, what's up, Barbara?
How are you?
Long time know here.
Oh, thank you so much.
I was able to get through.
Sean, I love you.
I love you.
I love you.
What's going on?
How are you?
I'm doing real good.
And just to say this about your Mancis X, I got a 92%.
You did.
Wow.
That's better than Linda.
I did.
Yes, I did.
You know what I'm saying?
I got to sign off God plus passes.
We'll be shot.
But anyway.
I'm not going to visit your house unannounced.
I'll tell you ahead of time.
But no, you know what?
It's also fun.
I love it because it's fun.
And I have not been able to shoot a lot in recent years because, you know, 35 years and radio has done enough damage to my ears that they already want to put, you know, what do you call those things, hearing aids in my ears.
And I refuse to even consider it.
Well, I tell you, just turn the volume down and just go as long as you can.
No, I just put amplifiers on one after another and put it up.
That's all.
I'm just so excited about what's happening.
You know, what's happening right now and Peter Sweitzer, I'm going to get that book.
What?
Secret Empire.
Secret Empire, yeah.
Yeah.
Where's Hunter has a whole new meaning.
It has a whole new meaning, Sean.
I want to know what Joe knew and when did he know it?
We knew he knew.
Look, he knew it all.
And that's the point.
Not only did he know, Sean, not only did he know, we have some other rich people like maybe Mr. Obama who also knew.
He was the VP.
Because I remember in that conversation when he was talking, he said, if you don't fire, if you don't fire a callback, call Obama.
He said, call him.
Well, I don't.
So far, Obama's not been implicated.
However, there were meetings in the Obama White House.
There were invitations given to state dinners.
We've been following that information.
What did Joe know?
When did he know it?
Did Obama know anything about it?
It's a fair question.
I think we ought to get an answer to that, considering a lot of this business took place in his White House.
But it's about as corrupt as I've ever seen it.
And what it really means is if your family is taking money and you're not performing any services for that money from foreign adversaries, to me, that compromises the family and that compromises the president in this case.
And you can't tell me he didn't know that that prosecutor was investigating his son who being paid a fortune with no experience.
So that to me is all the smoking gun evidence you would need on that case.
I'm sure that we're going to have more information, evidence coming out in the days, weeks, months ahead.
The idea that they set up all these shell companies just to move money around and give it to different family members, including children.
Okay, what did the children do for this money?
I'd like to know.
Did they pay taxes on this money?
I'd like to know.
Did Hunter register as required under the Farah Act that they used against Paul Manafort, for example?
And if he didn't, that would be another charge coming his way if we have equal justice under the law.
Anyway, I'll give you the last word.
We don't have equal justice under the law.
And, you know, bringing up Paul Manafort, you saw how he went into jail and how he came out.
It was unbelievable to see what they did to him.
But the bottom line is they sold influence.
They sold influence, period.
Joe Biden is probably one of the worst people that anybody could even want to have as a father or grandfather.
How did China get away with a spy balloon flying over the airspace of Alaska, down the coast of Canada, into Idaho, all across the U.S., over our missile silo sites, our ICBM silo sites in Montana, down to Missouri and Kansas, up to Kentucky, off the coast of the Carolinas before it shot down?
No repercussions at all.
How does Russia get to take down a drone?
No repercussions at all.
The Biden's compromised?
I don't know because I don't think Donald Trump would have taken that crap from the Chinese or the Russians.
To our phones we go.
Matt in Pennsylvania.
Matt, hi, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
How you doing?
Glad to be on your show.
The question for you is this: I've been sitting here listening to all this stuff going on: Joe Biden, all the corruptness, all the money we spend, the debt, all that stuff like that.
What I don't understand is normal people would go to jail for the stuff that has been going on.
Why is there no accountability for anything that any of these politicians do?
You know what I mean?
We spend money all over the outside of the United States when we have homeless people in the United States.
We have veterans that are homeless.
We have drug addiction in the United States.
We can't take care of ourselves, but yet we spend millions and millions of dollars taking care of everybody else.
Obviously, people are on the take because, you know, I mean, there's all these deals.
It's not even hit anymore.
The stuff is out in the open.
It's like nobody, nobody, but nobody does anything about it.
Look, the Republicans, to their credit, you know, 97 days, Joe would not meet with Kevin McCarthy.
Met with him yesterday with only, well, yesterday it was 22 days until we hit the debt ceiling.
And that would be the moment that America would start defaulting on its debt for the first time in history.
So because he wouldn't meet, and McCarthy asked him every day, he was asking every single day to meet with Joe Biden.
Joe wouldn't meet with him.
Joe, I said this from the beginning.
They made a political calculation, and they thought the Republicans, because of their small majority, would not come together and agree on a plan, as they have, that would raise the debt ceiling.
And in the case of Republicans, it also, CBO scores out at saving $4.8 trillion over a period of 10 years, which I think is a good thing.
It caps the baseline budgeting level to 1%.
In other words, you can't raise program or any of the different government functions above 1%.
That's a slow rate of growth compared to past years.
I think that's fiscally responsible.
And I think getting back a lot of the COVID unspent money, that is fiscally responsible.
Going back to energy independence, or at least allowing for more energy production domestically, that is important.
I think they got all the right ideas here.
Now, here's the problem that they have.
We have 43 senators, actually, 44, because Senator Kennedy of Louisiana didn't sign the letter, but he said he's not voting for a clean bill.
He told me last night on TV.
The problem that Joe Biden now has is I don't think Kevin McCarthy can go back to his caucus and say Joe Biden says he'll sign this if we do ABC and D and remove ABC and D.
I don't think he's going to get 218 members to agree on that.
So at that point, as long as the Senate holds and they've got 44 senators holding, then I think they'll have no choice but to sign it.
Or if there is a default, it'll be Joe Biden's decision.
There'll be one person responsible, Joe Biden, if this country defaults for the first time in history.
And Republicans got to just buckle in and stay strong.
They did their job.
They passed a debt ceiling increase.
But they also put in place measures that make us more fiscally responsible.
That was the right thing to do.
It's not onerous.
They're going back to 2022 spending levels.
That is not an onerous, you know, negatively impacting budget put out by the Republicans.
That is a fiscally responsible budget.
So anybody that says anything to the contrary, they're just lying.
Anyway, appreciate the call.
Thank you.
Matt, I'm sorry, Bob in California.
Bob, how are you?
Glad you called.
I am well.
I am well, Matt.
Good to talk to you.
Thank you for taking me in today.
I have a question.
Am I Matt or you, Matt?
No, I'm too happy to be Matt.
I said Matt.
I didn't say Mad.
You call me Matt.
No, I heard you say Matt to him, and I'm Bob.
Hi, Bob.
It's Sean.
Who's on your call?
Who's on first?
I don't know.
Third base.
What's on your mind?
Hey, first of all, love the show.
You're a great American, and your people there and staff are just fabulous.
The reason I'm calling is I'm a mortgage lender, have been since the 70s, back when I was skinny and head.
But the reason I'm calling is the government recently put out a new price restriction, and it's being mislabeled by all of us that are not fully aware as something to where a better credit score costs more money than a worse credit score.
And that's not entirely factual.
The truth is the people with the great credit scores got a higher ding on the cost per loan than the higher cost given to somebody with lower credit.
Hence to say, a lower credit person is still going to pay through the nose a lot more than a person with great credit.
So all of that is true, what you're saying, and that is that the people that work hard and pay their bills on time and get rewarded with high credit scores, which is necessary when you're out, maybe you want a mortgage or you want a loan for a car, whatever it happens to be.
Now they're going to be penalized because of their good credit rating to subsidize people that have lousy credit ratings.
That's what you're talking about.
That is exactly correct, but it's not to the thousands of dollars.
And I've heard some people in my industry say, well, people should just stop paying their bills to get a lower credit score.
And that is counterproductive and that won't work.
That's not the way it rolls.
But the bottom line is the federal government instituted this kind of change on mortgages back in 2008.
And the average customer pays about $6,000 in the transaction for the fact that the government gets this money because it's either a credit score or a property or some kind of difficulty.
Oh, you can't believe the amount of fees they tack on in New York, especially New York City if you buy property.
It's insane.
Yeah, I'm not familiar with New York, but I will tell you, because I'm in the Socialist Soviet Republic of California, there's enough here.
But this is just one of the items that goes through Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
And that's all I wanted to say and share.
Well, we appreciate it and glad you're out there.
And I would say, you know, California is about to institute their program where your utility bill is not going to be based on your usage.
It'll be based on your income.
So in other words, higher income people will pay more for their utilities and lower income people will be subsidized by other people.
They just think they can't stop outdoing themselves in terms of redistribution of wealth.
I'll tell you that.
All right, let's say hi to Mark in Florida, the free state of Florida.
What's up, Mark?
How are you?
Glad you called, sir.
I'm doing good, Sean.
Appreciate you taking my phone call.
Had a question about Trump's appeal process.
Where can he go with it?
Can he go to another place where they might be a little bit gentler rather than the Democratic Republic of New York?
Look, I think he's going to take it up to the appellate division would be my first guess.
I think you get more reasonable like there were things in this trial that I think had no business being brought in as evidence.
The Access Hollywood tape, for example, being one.
And, you know, I don't know what to say.
It's a very strange verdict in my mind.
They found him not guilty of the allegation that E. Gene Carroll had made about rape.
They found him guilty of assault and they found him guilty of defamation.
So it's going to be appealed.
And do I think the odds are high that it could be overturned on appeal?
I actually do.
It's just a shame that, you know, this is where he's spending his time.
And that happened 29 years ago.
Am I right?
Well, she doesn't remember.
It was either 27, 28, or 29 years ago.
Nobody remembers the actual time date.
They remember the place.
It was a changing room in a busy department store in New York City.
It makes no sense.
On paper, you know, apparently, look, do I think a conservative can get a fair trial in New York?
I do not.
I don't.
That's why I got to get the hell out of here.
I got to get out.
Bye-bye.
See ya.
I got to get to Florida sooner than later.
I got to hang out with the sunshine and rainbows and I don't know.
No taxes, no state income taxes, no estate taxes.
I mean, what am I doing here?
Makes me dumb.
I'm working on it.
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