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Secretary Pompeo - April 27th, Hour 3
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, I have been spending a lot of time talking about China, Russia, Iran, and what I'm calling a new axis of evil.
What's really scaring me is China is now exerting its influence around the world.
That would include Caribbean nations.
That would include Latin America.
That would include Africa.
You know, during the Trump years, we had a coalition that I thought we'd never see in our lifetime, but it happened because Donald Trump and Mike Pompeo, they did a phenomenal job.
And we had a coalition of the U.S. and Israel and Saudi Arabia and the UAE and the Jordanians and the Egyptians.
Okay, now all of a sudden, Joe Biden abdicates America's leadership role in the world stage.
And China is diving in headfirst.
They want to be the dominant superpower.
They want to be the world's sole superpower.
They also would like to remove the U.S. dollar as the world's currency.
That's part of their scheme as well.
We all know it's an authoritarian nation.
We know that they have evil intentions and territorial ambitions when it comes to Taiwan.
They have been aggressively flying over Taiwan airspace now for a long period of time.
There have been no consequences for the Chinese spy balloon.
And sadly, I don't think anybody in the administration has a clue on how to deal with this.
And if you look at every single department, we've discussed this in detail as well.
Every department in Joe Biden's government is gone green and it has gone woke, including our military.
For example, Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm said she supports the U.S. military adopting an all-electric fleet by 2030.
I don't want an all-electric fleet.
I want the biggest, baddest, kick-ass military on the face of the earth.
And frankly, concerns about the planet shouldn't factor into any of these decisions.
Anyway, she said that, and she was asked about the Department of Energy grant to this Chinese company, MicroVast, a lithium battery company that operates from China.
And she's defending it.
This is insane.
Listen.
Do you support the military adopting that EV fleet by 2030?
I do.
And I think we can get there as well.
I want to ask you about Microvast, which is a lithium battery company that operates primarily out of the People's Republic of China.
Your agency granted $200 million worth of a grant to this company.
If you're aware of this, correct?
There were awards that were, there were selections that were named, and all of those companies are going through vetting process to ensure that there's no money flowing to countries of concern.
And so those vetting processes are going on.
Not a dollar has gone out the door yet.
Okay, and I think you got a letter from a member of the Senate asking what the security protocols are and what the tests.
You can see how concerning it would be that Chinese-owned businesses are coming.
We don't want to see the dollars going to any countries of concern.
We want them to be coming.
So is it your commitment that no dollars will go to any company, any energy company taking advantage of either tax credits or grants that are owned by China, by a Chinese company?
No state-owned enterprise will get funding from the bipartisan interest.
What about companies that have material operations in China, which we know, of course, that intellectual property.
That's why we're using this CFIA vetting program.
All right, joining us now, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is with us.
Mr. Secretary, always great to have you.
My first question to you is, are you as concerned as I am?
I've never had this level of concern, say, past the Cold War, past World War II, which my father fought in four years in the Pacific.
I think things are that dire.
And then you add the modern technology and weaponry of war, and you have a formula for an unmitigated disaster and loss of life.
Your thoughts?
Sean, you have that exactly right.
This, call it what you will.
You call it the Axis of Evil, this coalition, these joining of forces of 1.4 billion people and a massive economy in the Chinese Communist Party.
Now, Russia, largely as a vassal state, providing affordable energy in a way to China that we're not providing our energy for the world.
Combine that with them now playing footsie with the Iranians.
And the American people, every family in America, and our soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines are more at risk than they've ever been.
And it needn't have been this way, Sean.
We had built out.
We had isolated Iran.
We had confronted the Chinese Communist Party.
Putin didn't invade Europe on our watch.
We had a model of deterrence that was reminiscent of what President Reagan pulled off during the Cold War.
And we've now, in the last two years and a handful of months, thrown that all away.
Okay, here's my fear.
Not only has China, Russia, and Iran united, but China now brokered this deal with the Saudis and with Iran.
Now, that's not anything I thought I'd see in my lifetime, knowing the conflict and understanding the conflict between Shia and Sunni.
But they pulled that off.
Now they're about to pull off the same type of agreement with Saudi Arabia and with Syria.
And notice one of the first things the Saudis did, leading OPEC, is cut down production of energy by 1.3 million barrels of oil a day, knowing America has unilaterally disarmed in terms of energy production.
And as a result, to me, that means that they're trying to bankrupt America, knowing that it's going to raise the cost of energy, which is still the lifeblood of the world's economy.
Am I wrong in that analysis or am I right?
You know, Sean, the clips that you played from the Secretary of Energy, Ms. Granholm, actually, I think, reinforce exactly the point you just made, right?
She's living in a fantasy world, not the world that was real, where we had friends and partners that had isolated Iran.
They played footsie with the Iranians.
And then every foreign policy issue is viewed through climate change for them.
You know, I was a long time ago, Sean, you know the story, I was an M1 tank guy, and it was an AFCO-like homing 1,500 horsepower engine, and it got me where I needed it.
My soldiers where we needed to be.
The fact that she actually believes that by 2030, you're going to have American soldiers in an M1 tank or pilots in an F-35 looking for a charging station.
I mean, this is nutty.
And it is a disservice to our soldiers and our sailors and our airmen and Marines.
And it puts America's military off of their mission.
It puts them in a land where their primary mission is fighting climate change, not deterring our adversaries.
These are all of apart.
And the Chinese, the Russians, and the Iranians are watching that DEI leadership driving America away from its central focus of protecting American citizens from the threats that come from those countries.
I want to know if you agree with my theory with this new alignment with China, Russia, Iran.
Now they're peeling away the coalition that you and President Trump built.
And the Saudis now going along with the communist Chinese.
That tells me they're betting on China emerging as the world superpower.
The UAE, we now discovered they have partnered with Putin and Russia.
That tells me that they want to be a part of that coalition.
We give billions of dollars, U.S. dollars to Egypt every year.
And now we learned through this internal leak of documents that, in fact, Egypt is involved in giving Putin money to fight that war against Ukraine.
We know Putin is evil.
That tells me that the coalition that you built, you helped build, is now broken apart and that every one of these countries is betting on China.
Is that right?
Am I right?
Am I wrong?
Am I conspiratorial?
No, no, no, no conspiracy there.
When you have had a relationship with the United States where you knew in a pinch the United States would be with you, and the United States walks away from that, we shouldn't forget the Israelis, who President Biden has alienated as well.
But they'll engage in classic, in New York City, you all call it, in the financial world, you call it hedging behavior.
They're trying to take down their risk because they don't have a reliable American partner.
Not that they're asking for our soldiers or sailors.
They're simply saying, we want to know that the United States understands that the Iranians are the bad guys in the region, that the Chinese Communist Party is dangerous.
And instead, we've got an administration that got 13 Americans killed in Afghanistan that's now let the Chinese build police stations inside of our country.
And if you're a Gulf Arab leader, or frankly, as you mentioned in your opening, if you're a leader in Latin America or in Southeast Asia or in Africa, you think I may have to bet on China, not the United States.
And that is the central failure of the Biden administration.
They've walked away from the strength and power of the United States of America.
They've abdicated our role as the world leader, not only the leader of the free world, but the world's most dominant superpower.
Tell me I'm wrong.
I believe it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when the communist Chinese take over Taiwan.
Please tell me I'm wrong.
I hope you're wrong.
And it turns, but it is a real concern.
You've seen our senior military leaders talk about that happening in the next couple, three years.
I hope you're wrong, Trump, but it will turn in large measure on what you just talked about.
It's not inevitable that it happened.
But if we abdicate, if President Biden continues to let them walk all over us economically, maybe most importantly, but doesn't build out relationships where the Japanese trust us.
The South Koreans trust us.
The Australians trust us.
They're watching Joe Biden be weak, too.
All right, so if let's say China does take Taiwan, what is Joe Biden going to do?
You heard what Macron said, which, by the way, I found repulsive.
But putting that aside, I don't think Joe Biden will lift a finger, Mr. Secretary, and that really bothers me.
Yeah, I suspect that he won't either.
Much like in Ukraine, they kind of had a one-bite rule, right?
So Putin takes a fifth of Ukraine under President Obama, not an inch of it in our four years, and then goes back at it under President Biden, takes more land.
And then and only then do they say, gosh, stop there.
I'm afraid that President Biden doesn't have the ability to communicate a posture of deterrence that prevents it or isn't prepared to make sure that everybody in the region knows that the United States will be there to provide the support that Taiwanese people will need should she do something really stupid.
You've had an incredible life.
You're a congressman, you are CIA director, you are Secretary of State.
You've been in the room with people like Vladimir Putin and President Chi and Kim Jong-un.
What can you tell us about those three?
What are your feelings about those three?
How would you describe them?
Each a little bit different, Sean.
I did spend a fair amount of time with them.
What they do have in common that it is hard for Americans, I think, to fully appreciate is the fact that they have total disregard for human life.
That drives so much.
They will accrete power.
They will destroy anyone and anything in their way to continue to maintain their power.
That's the most important thing.
And so whether it's sending a virus around the world that kills millions of people, it doesn't bother them.
They don't blink an eye.
If it's invading Ukraine and killing hundreds of thousands of your own citizens and thousands of Ukrainians as well, it's not something that they put in their calculus when they're thinking about how it is they maintain their power, their wealth, their influence, and total control inside of their country.
You have to take that on board in your head to understand how they're going to think about what it is they are going to do.
And the only thing they get, Sean, the only thing they understand is true power.
And President Biden has demonstrated an absolute unwillingness to use American power in a way that presidents have done for decades that kept us all safe.
Quick break more with former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on the other side.
All right, we continue now with former Secretary of State.
He's not running for president.
Mike Pompeo is with us.
Let me tell you my greatest fear.
I wrote a book back, I believe it was 2004, Deliver Us from Evil, Defeating Terrorism, Despotism, and Liberalism.
And I was not comparing liberals to despots and terrorists.
I'm saying if you don't win politically, you can't have policies that are effective.
In other words, you need somebody that believes in peace through strength.
So my question is this.
In the last century, if you look at Mao, China, Stalin, Russia, Hitler, Germany, Mussolini, fascism, if you look at Toujo, Japan, the Killingfields, Cambodia, you added all the numbers together, and it's over 100 million human souls killed because of these evil authoritarian governments.
With the modern weaponry we have today and nuclear capability and the mad ideology, for example, of the mullows in Iran, I worry that that could happen on a scale that humankind has never seen before.
Is that a possibility?
Sean, sadly it is.
And every day when I was the Secretary of State and CIA director, we were trying to think our way through about how to reduce that very risk.
Our aim was to make sure that the bad guys in the world didn't view their options as being opportunistically available to do precisely that.
And for good and for bad, the United States is going to have to lead that.
We benefit enormously from our global leadership.
It also imposes a real burden on us.
There's no doubt about that.
But without American leadership, that risk of precisely what you described, cascading series of crises around the world, and not far away, think Venezuela, think Cuba, think of Americans that are all across the world.
These are the kind of things that are very possible.
And through American leadership for 70 plus years since World War II, we've largely prevented that.
And we now have a president who appears incapable of doing exactly that.
That's chilling.
Now, I know you made the decision not to run for president, but I will say this, that America needs people like you in positions of power because I think these countries that we're talking about only will respect people of strength like yourself, period.
Well, that's very kind, Sean.
I'm going to stay in the fight.
It wasn't the moment for Susan and me, this election cycle, but I'm going to stay at this.
I've been working on this very problem that you and I have talked about for so long, for 30 years.
The need is great, and I'm going to stay at it.
Scary times.
Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, we always appreciate your time.
Thanks for being with us.
We'll talk soon.
Thank you, sir.
Yes, sir.
So long.
Have a good day.
I hope everybody heard this.
This is real.
This is a clear and present danger.
We don't have a president right now that is capable of dealing with these problems on the world stage.
And China, they are taking full advantage of all of it, and they want to emerge as the world's sole superpower, period, and destroy us in the process.
800-941 Sean as we continue.
All right, so this has like been kid week or child week for Joe Biden.
Now, he had his, it takes a village moment earlier this week when he said, they're all our kids.
Oh, they're all.
I'm serious.
I'm serious.
Come on, man.
You know, they're all our kids.
They're all, they're not your kids.
They're our kids.
And that's what he said.
Listen to this from earlier in the week.
Rebecca put a teacher's creed into words when she said, there's no such thing as someone else's child.
No such thing as someone else's child.
Our nation's children are all our children.
Now he tops it off today because apparently today is take your child to work day.
A lot of parents taking their kids to work, which is really cool.
Linda, I know you wanted to keep Liam in school.
I wish Liam was here because Liam is a pisser and he and I will have a great time.
And I would have ordered a happy meal for him and watched him eat it right in front of you and you see the fume and the fury coming out of your ears.
You know what he said to me last week?
Can I have a happy meal?
He said to me, you know, mommy, I got to tell you something.
I had a McDonald's happy meal recently.
He was not with me.
And he said, it did give me a tummy ache.
You're right, mommy.
And you know what I explained to him?
It's because of the gnarly and disgusting oil that they fry everything in that.
I love McDonald's.
Stop talking badly about my favorite McDonald's.
Now, when Liam is with me, it's going to be very, very different.
And I bet he loved the toy.
I bet he also offers like sliced apples, if you want, instead of fries.
But the fries are going to be a little bit different.
Absolutely.
I mean, why not a little apple to wash down all of the old oil?
No.
How about a great cheeseburger or chicken nuggets and incredible french fries, so much better than your air fried french fries?
Every day over.
Whatever.
All right.
So Joe Biden's with kids today.
And now, in the first case, he can't remember the last country he visited.
How is that possible?
Because he spent days and days on that Ireland trip.
I think he went to Great Britain as well.
But I mean, are you kidding me?
He couldn't remember.
Then Joe Biden was asked what his favorite movie is.
And he said, you know, the one about the guy that flies planes.
That would be Top Gun 2 Maverick, Joe.
Not that difficult to remember.
Then he says, I'm going to take two more questions, have to leave because the Secret Service agents are packing and I have to listen to them.
And then says, I have six grandchildren.
Now, the sad part is, is unmentioned, is that he actually has seven grandchildren, and he will not even acknowledge that Hunter Biden had another child with another woman.
He'll be headed back to an Arkansas court soon over this.
And then he said that.
Listen to this mess of today.
The last country I've traveled, I'm thinking what's the last one I was in.
I've been to 89, met with 89 heads of state so far.
So I'm trying to think, what was the last place?
Where was the last place I was?
It's hard to keep track.
Yeah, you're right, Ireland.
That's where it was.
How'd you know that?
Favorite movie was a new movie that was about that guy who flies jet planes.
You know who I'm talking about?
Top Gunn.
Top Gunn.
Did you see?
Did you see Top One Maverick?
That's been my favorite movie.
I'm going to take two more.
I'm getting myself in trouble here because your parents are saying, when's he going to stop?
And my Secret Service agents, they're packing, so I got to be careful what they tell.
I have six grandchildren, and I'm crazy about them.
I speak to them every single day.
Not a joke.
Matter of fact, I just got finished going through the calls.
I have six grandchildren, and I'm crazy about them.
I speak to them every single day.
Not a joke.
Matter of fact, I just got finished going through the calls.
And only one of them answered the phone.
But at least I got to leave a message.
And my oldest granddaughter is named after one of my daughters who I lost in an accident a long time ago.
And her name is Naomi.
And then I have number two, I have a daughter who works in the environmental movement, and her name is Finnegan, and named after my mom.
And number three, my granddaughter, I call her my all-American girl.
She was a great little athlete.
And she's about to graduate from college in about two weeks.
And her name is, she's, the nickname we call her is Maisie.
And then I have two other granddaughter who I just spoke to, did get to speak to, and her name is Natalie, and she is a senior in high school, about to graduate and go off to college where her daddy went to school.
And then I have a grandson who's going to be a senior in high school.
And then now I have a new baby boy.
He's three and a half years old.
And his daddy named him after his brother, my deceased son.
And he's Beau Biden.
So guess what?
They're crazy about me.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
I don't know what to say.
This guy is so checked out.
God help us.
Have he ever won re-election?
And that is not hyperbole on my part.
Larry, Marilyn, we'll start with you.
Larry, glad you called.
How are you, sir?
Hi, Sean.
Great to talk with you.
You know, Hunter Biden is a reflection of his father.
And it's just, it's sad.
It's sad to see someone that, I mean, that really, you know, whatever his issues are, it seems like he's got plenty of them.
He, you know, he can't seem to get the help he needs, or his dad doesn't seem, I mean, I would think that they could get him help for his drug addiction, for his prostitution addiction, for all the addictions he has.
You know, I would think they could get him.
Listen, I don't wish that on anybody.
I wish them a happy life, but the reality is my issues with Hunter go way beyond the fact that he used drugs a lot.
Addiction is insidious.
I know professional people that have gotten addicted, for example, to opioids.
They get an operation.
They take OxyContin or Vicodin or Percocet or one of these drugs.
I've never taken one of those pain pills in my life, and I'll tell you why I'm afraid of them.
They scare the hell out of me.
I know too many professional people that got addicted to them.
I'm scared to death of them.
But, you know, now you have to worry about, you know, if you get it on the open market or buy them on the street, you know, what are the odds that it's going to be tainted with fentanyl?
Pretty high.
Yeah, that seems to be that seems to be very pervasive.
I just heard about a school outside of Philly that had to shut or they closed down because the kids were taking a drug and apparently they were all getting sick.
They had a bunch of kids getting sick and it was bad.
That whole thing is bad.
Wait, I got to jump in on that.
So I'm from Philly and that story is unbelievable.
These kids are in school at lunch having their lunch and somebody spiked their juice, their water with an opioid.
So a bunch of kids are there.
They're trying to just, you know, have lunch and they're getting sick.
They're rushing kids.
Four kids had to go to the ER.
I'm like, this is what people are doing now?
So some adult or some older kid in that lunchroom thought it would be cool to do that to a bunch of other innocent children trying to have their lunch.
I mean, that is nothing but spiritual warfare.
That's evil, man.
That is pure evil.
There's no other word for it.
I agree completely.
Larry, these are tough times we're living in.
I'm trying to warn everybody, and it's really time for people of common sense to put aside labels, parties, and do what's right for the country.
You know, is it the right thing that we have secure borders?
Yes.
Is it the right thing that we have law and order and safety and security so people can pursue happiness?
Yes.
Is it smart to be energy independent?
Yes.
Is it smart to have the strong, mean, tough military as a deterrent?
Yes.
Is it smart that America has allies and helps our allies that are being squeezed by Vladimir Putin and other evil regimes?
Yes.
You know, we should be providing Western Europe with their energy needs, and we're not.
You know, this is common sense.
This isn't not political.
Is it common sense to balance your budget, live within your means, not rob your children and grandchildren blind?
That's simple, basic, fundamental common sense.
Anyway, Larry, you got me worked up.
Bruce, Long Island, New York.
Where in Long Island are you, Bruce?
Hey, I'm out in Suffolk County in beautiful downtown Long Island.
Yeah, the third highest taxed property county in the country.
I'm in the second highest taxed property county in the country, Nassau County.
And the majority of the Trump supporters are right here on Long Island because there were rallies and thousands would show up.
You're right.
What's on your mind today?
Well, I wanted to ask you, you know, about this Hunter Biden thing.
Would the Democrats be kind of letting this transpire?
Sorry about the background noise.
I work in a machine shop.
No worries.
You're a hardworking guy.
We love hardworking people.
Well, the Democrats, I think, are letting Hunter come to light his indiscretions.
They want to get rid of Joe Biden.
No, I think they're protecting Joe in this.
I think they're hoping that this will satiate, satisfy these committees that are now unraveling the Biden family syndicate, but it's not going to work.
Unfortunately for Joe, his co-mingling of his finances with Hunter and Hunter's own laptop implicating his father, and now that we're finding these new LLCs that they have been using to pay people on top of the suspicious activity reports, you know, it's all coming to a head here.
And it will come down to the question of what Joe knew, when he knew it, what official actions he may have taken, like in the case of Ukraine, leveraging a billion taxpayer dollars.
How much money did he make in these deals?
And if he did, he should be impeached and thrown out of office.
He should be impeached and he should be convicted.
Now, do I think all of that happened?
I really, at this point, am beginning to believe it all happened.
But I'm going to wait, be patient, and I'll rush to final judgment.
And I want to hear what James Comer and Jim Jordan come up with.
That's why you're hearing the Democrats attack them so loudly.
Well, I think there's so many ethics violations with Biden lying about covering up for his son.
After all of this, what's he going to get?
A slap on the wrist?
Because everything in the judicial system is left, way left.
So they're going to just bury everything.
And if it was the other way around with Trump, they'll have him in jail by now.
Guaranteed the dual justice system is real.
Look, this is why Jim Jordan's Judiciary Committee investigation is so important.
Is the DOJ now being weaponized?
And do they have a dual justice system?
Is the FBI politicized?
I think we know the answers to both questions.
And this runs in tandem with James Comer's investigation into the Biden family syndicate.
And the reality is, is now he's following the money.
Now he got evidence, real evidence to track down.
And I think, and at the end of the day, they wouldn't have LLCs with money in it unless they were taking in money.
We know they took in money from China.
We know they took in money from Ukraine.
We know they took in money from Kazakhstan.
We know they took in money from Russia.
We know that there was a deal with Mexico.
And there's about a dozen other countries.
And we need to know how much money they took in from what country, how much they profited, how much money went to every individual.
What did Joe know and when did he know it?
And did Joe profit off of influence peddling while he was vice president and allow his family to do the same?
And did he aid and abet in lawbreaking?
Because if he did, the full force of the law should come down upon him and we should hold him accountable.
The mob won't want to, they're not going to want to do this.
And probably the Justice Department will protect him, but he will not be president one day.
And at that point, he will be very vulnerable to real charges, in my view, if in fact it proves out the way the Comer is saying and Jim Jordan is saying, in my opinion.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
Hannity tonight, 9 Eastern on the Fox News channel.
You're going to want to join us.
We have such a good show.
Greg Jarrett Pambondi, Larry Kudlow, Degan McDowell, Tom Shalou will join us.
Sean Duffy, Tudor Dixon in studio.
Reince Prievis will join us.
By the way, we'll show Joey on Bring Your Child to Work Day at the White House.
He did not exactly have a very good day.
Anyway, we'll get into the very confused and confounded president.
Also, how much trouble is the Biden family syndicate in?
We'll look into that.
We have a lot of bad stories about Hunter Biden.
It looks like this indictment is really imminent.
We'll have the very latest on that.
And Biden is now asking you, the American people, to re-elect him so we can finish the job of what?
Destroying the economy and abdicating our role in the world?
Not a good idea.
Anyway, 9 Eastern, Hannity, Fox News.
See you tonight.
Back here tomorrow.
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