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So by my count, it's 77 days since Kevin McCarthy had an opportunity to speak to Joe Biden.
Remember, we have this debt ceiling that is looming.
Very soon, you will be hearing about the full faith and credit of the United States government is hanging in the balance.
Joe Biden initially said that he would not negotiate with the Republicans.
Now, we did go back and find a tape from years ago, I think it was 2011, of Joe Biden saying, it can't be my way or the highway.
You got to give and take a little bit.
So it's a very different Joe Biden.
Anyway, so without any ability to talk to or negotiate a plan on raising the debt ceiling, well, Kevin McCarthy and the Republican majority in the House have come together with a bill.
And by the way, conservatives love it and it's responsible.
They will allow raising the debt limit, the borrowing cap by $1.5 trillion or through March of 2024, whichever comes first.
In return, they are demanding fiscal responsibility on the part of the government.
And it's really simple.
$4.5 trillion in cuts, well over $30 trillion in money that we are now putting as debt on our children.
Anyway, McCarthy's calling it Limit, Save, Grow Act, and it will literally return discretionary spending to fiscal year 2022 levels.
That's all it's doing.
It will limit the growth of spending to a maximum 1% a year.
It will reallocate unspent COVID funds and limit other government spending.
And he's going to stick up with the hardworking people in America that are suffering because of these oppressive taxes that they're putting on.
Now, let me play for you.
You know, Joe Biden's trying to go out there and give a speech on the economy.
You can barely understand a word he says.
$400 billion.
$400 billion.
It's not just because I grew up in the house.
Because it's true.
You know, when I speak to the business roundtable and the Muckety Mucks, a lot of decent people, the very old business enterprises, they look at me like, hey, guys, don't jump, okay?
Well, growing up, I didn't see a whole hell of a lot trickle down in our three-bedroom house with four kids at my dad's kitchen table.
How'd that happen?
I mean, deadly earnest.
You have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out.
How did that happen?
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You're now paying 35 bucks instead of 500 bucks a month for that insulin.
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And then Kevin McCarthy, who I interviewed earlier this week, he's been challenging Biden to negotiate.
Biden refuses to negotiate.
So if you're not going to negotiate, here's our plan.
If you want to raise the debt limit, this is it.
Now, the challenge for Republicans is they've got to stay united when it comes down to the full faith and credit of the United States is hanging in the balance.
Joe Biden won't meet with Kevin McCarthy.
He laid out his plan.
Biden just wants to raise the debt, raise the debt, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax.
And guess what?
They either solve this together or they won't be able to raise the debt ceiling.
And this is where Republicans' first test comes in.
They can't capitulate here.
Anyway, here's Kevin McCarthy.
Now that we've introduced a clear plan for a responsible debt limit increase, they have no more excuse and refuse to negotiate.
I think the Senate can honor maple syrup and basketball teams and negotiate on a debt ceiling at the same time.
We owe it to the American people to use this moment in history to deliver the future they want, need, and deserve.
House Republicans have a plan.
The Senate does not.
And the president is ignoring the debt crisis.
President Biden has a choice.
Come to the table and stop playing partisan political games or cover his ears, refuse to negotiate, and risk bumbling his way into the first default in our nation's history.
Then we have this, you know, pretty amazing story on the economy, which I frankly am, I guess I shouldn't be stunned at any of this.
But, you know, Biden is out there blaming Kevin McCarthy, giving into the wacko demands from his party.
Okay, whatever you want to say, Joe.
Does that make you feel better?
Because that's not solving the debt crisis.
Sitting down, negotiating, if you can keep your focus for like 20 minutes, you might be able to actually hear what the plan is.
Now we have Joe Biden's new rule is going to deliver, redistribute high-risk loan costs to homeowners with good debt.
In other words, if you have good credit rating, well, guess what?
You're going to pay more so that people with bad credit ratings can get loans.
Oh, just like out in California, they now have an income determinative factor in terms of what you pay for utilities.
Now, Steve Moore, who will join us in a second, I mean, he really nailed this in a press conference he gave.
Hi, Steve Moore here.
I'm here at the Patriotic Millionaires Press Conference, where a bunch of millionaires said they want to pay higher taxes and they're advocating for it, but they won't sign a pledge saying they're willing to pay the taxes that they endorse.
In fact, not one of these patriotic millionaires raised their hand and said, I'm willing to pay more taxes voluntarily.
Hi, thank you, by the way, for doing this.
And it's incredibly patriotic what you're talking about in terms of being willing to pay more taxes.
I think, Myron, you started out this press conference by saying you want to pay more taxes.
And so I represent a group called the Committee on Least Prosperity.
And we have these pledges.
How many of you are millionaires here?
I know you are, a number of you.
We're hoping that each one of you will sign this pledge, which says that you will pay a 90% tax, just as you're endorsing today, because you say it's in your patriotic duty to do so.
And so I'm hoping that each one of you will sign this pledge that says I'm willing to pay a 90% tax because, as you said, it's your patriotic or do you want me to do it?
Ms. Disney?
Yeah, let's get people.
I've got pens.
Let's sign these so we can solve the problem.
All said that you wanted to pay.
You said you wanted to pay more taxes.
You want to change the system.
No, no, no.
You said you want to pay more taxes.
So don't you think it's your duty?
Let me make you listen.
I'm sorry.
Don't you think it's your patriotic duty to pay more taxes if you're saying that?
But you all are millions.
Sorry, we got another question.
Okay, I'm just because you guys are millionaires, and you're saying you don't want to pay more.
Well, you do or you don't want to pay more taxes.
Yes, it's disingenuous to say that voluntary change of the law is going to make a structural difference.
But you all could make a huge difference.
It's a little bit of hypocrisy when a bunch of millionaires get together and say raise taxes, but they're not willing to pay them themselves.
Out of the 20 millionaires here, not one of them was willing to pay more taxes.
All right, joining us now is Steve Moore, author of the Trump Enomics Inside the America First Plan to Revive the Economy, and Adam Brandon, president of FreedomWorks GOP debt limit proposal.
Welcome both of you to the program.
I don't know how the Democrats are going to pin this on the Republicans, that the full faith and credit of the U.S. government is hanging in the balance when Joe Biden won't meet with McCarthy, Steve Moore, for 77 days.
Sean, good to be with you.
Just a couple of points, and I think you've summarized the situation quite well.
My only beef with what Kevin McCarthy has proposed, I think you said that he wants to use the 2022 baseline for spending.
I'm with Rand Paul, Sean.
I'd rather go back to the 2019 pre-COVID baseline before we spent these trillions and trillions of dollars.
But look, Kevin McCarthy has exactly, and I'm not always the biggest Kevin McCarthy fan, but he's done an amazing job here.
I think this package he's put together of demands are very reasonable.
And those include things, you mentioned some of them, Sean, but I want to point out it also includes no $40 billion for $80,000, 7,000 new IRS agents.
That's crazy.
That's going to be money used to weaponize the IRS against Republicans and conservatives.
He also wants to save $300 billion, Sean, by not spending unspent COVID money.
I mean, why should they use that as a piggy bank to spend on other programs?
Yeah, by the way, now that the pandemic is over, remember he used the emergency authorization.
He was going to use that to fund his student loan forgiveness program.
But that's not constitutional, is it, Steve?
No, it isn't.
And that's another provision of the McCarthy plan, which is no, we're not going to bail out people who are not paying back their student loans.
The only thing I would say, Sean, about McCarthy's strategy is I think he's straight on, but I'm tired of him saying, oh, you know, Joe Biden won't negotiate.
There's an old saying, you know, if a girl says to you three times she doesn't want to go out with you, she doesn't want to go out with you.
So if Biden doesn't want to negotiate, what should that have happened to me like, you know, 500 times in my life.
Go ahead.
I doubt that.
But anyway, the point is, what I'd like to see.
Oh, this is when I was dirt poor.
Don't worry.
Very big difference.
So what McCarthy should do is stop whining that he's not going to negotiate and simply pass this bill through the House, pass it on to Chucky Schumer, and say, we've done our job.
We're willing to extend the debt ceiling with these conditions and then let Schumer and let Biden deal with it.
Let me get your take, Adam, on this.
Well, thanks very much.
I agree with everything that Steve said, but there's another number that just scares me that we're at 31 trillion right now.
In 10 years, the Congressional Budget Office projects we will be over $50 trillion in debt.
So $30 trillion right now is uncomfortable.
Imagine the conversation when we hit 50.
Imagine when we start seeing news about China rattling its sword.
In a few years, probably five years, we will be paying more on interest, interest, than we can on national defense.
So this isn't just a numbers issue.
This is about the security of you and your family.
This is a massive, and anyone who doesn't see this as a crisis, yes, it is time to come to the table.
And I actually, I applaud McCarthy.
My expectations were low.
I initially thought, hey, just get a cup of coffee out of this negotiation.
Let me tell you, let me take it a step further.
Here's a problem we have as a country.
There are too many people that like the idea of their government empowering, being empowered to take one group of people's money and giving it to them for nothing.
There's too many people that have bought that socialist redistribution trickle down, empowering your government to steal money from people and give it to you.
That's what they're doing.
Well, I just hope everyone who's listening to this show, everyone who's in your audience right now, they actually take the time this week, today, call your congressman, whether they're Republican or Democrat, whether they're in the House or the Senate, and tell them, I want to see some action on what Republicans are moving right here.
We have to let the people who are being bold know we have their backs, and we have to let people know who are just trying to sit on the sidelines here that no, we demand action.
And that's how eventually you're going to move Biden.
When Biden sees that the suburbs and some of these other swing voters are like, you know what, this is reasonable.
It's time to come together as a country and negotiate.
That's what's ultimately going to force Biden to negotiate.
Quick break.
We'll come back more about the economy with Steve Moore and Adam Brandon.
And we'll get to your calls 800-941-Sean if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, we continue more of our discussion about the pending debt ceiling and Joe Biden's unwillingness to negotiate with Kevin McCarthy.
And I think Kevin McCarthy put forward a really good plan to get this country back to fiscal responsibility.
I mean, just going back to the 2022 budget, does that sound so outrageous?
You know, so extreme?
I don't think so.
Anyway, we continue with Steve and Adam.
Steve Moore, I don't know.
I don't think Biden has any choice as long as, and this is why the calls to Republicans are key.
If we lose four Republicans, we're in trouble.
You need a minimum of 218 that are willing to hold the line, Steve.
Yes.
And you're exactly right.
And I've been telling my friends in the Freedom Caucus, and they're friends of Adam's as well, hey, you know, is this perfect?
No.
As I said, I'd rather go back to the 2019 baseline.
But would I vote for this?
Sure, I would.
I think this is a very good bill.
I think it puts the onus on the Democrats to move.
And by the way, I want to make one other quick point, Sean.
Let's not forget, Joe Biden came in.
This is on them.
They're the ones who spent $6 trillion.
It was Joe Biden.
It was Chuck Schumer.
It was Nancy Pelosi who passed this massive debt.
Now they want the Republicans to pass a debt ceiling bill to accommodate all their spending.
Hell no.
I mean, I agree with you.
I think most people in this audience agree with you.
The debt that Adam is talking about is very real.
Let me ask you this.
Adam, do you think that China is actively now, along with their new allies, Russia, Iran, the Saudis, the UAE, Egypt, and North Korea?
Do you think that they are trying, actively hard, trying to make sure that the dollar is not the world's currency anymore any longer?
Of course they are.
Absolutely, of course they are.
We have 4% of the world's population, but 40% of the world's global capital.
Think about that.
And that's because of the strength of our system, strength of the dollar.
You erode that system.
Our way of life, we start resembling Brazil or Argentina very quickly.
But the good news is the only way that we're going to lose that is if we lose our basic moral values and what underpins this society, our commitment to free markets, all the rest of it, our commitment to cheap energy.
So if we solve it at home, we don't have to worry about it.
We'll continue to attract global capital.
But yes, they are looking for any sign of weakness from this country to displace us.
All right.
Adam Brandon, thank you.
Steve Moore, thank you.
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Let's say hi to Serena is in Kentucky.
Hey, Serena, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, thanks for taking my call.
I'm digressing a bit, but I hear you talking about China all the time, and I appreciate that.
I appreciate your wealth and knowledge.
I listen to you.
Everybody driving home after school.
Anyway, my daughter is planning on auditioning for Shanghai, Disney.
She's a performer.
She's worked in Saudi Arabia before.
But what would you say to her?
What kind of advice would you offer if she were to be offered a contract?
Knowing the tensions that are going on in the behind-the-scenes preparations, would you advise her not to take it if she were to be offered a job?
What's the specific role?
It's a Disney performer, character performer, one of the princesses.
Look, I don't think it's good for any company to get involved in politics.
Okay, that's my view.
I don't think it's good for business.
You know, I took a position on the issue of Budweiser and Anheuser-Busch and Bud Light and the controversy when they were paying money to this quote influencer.
And I know a lot of people said, all right, I'm no longer drinking Bud Light.
I'm done with them.
I'm finished with them.
Because they got themselves involved in politics.
They shouldn't have done it.
And they think, you know, running the Clydesdale ad around, you know, American symbols, et cetera, is going to is going to end the controversy involved.
Anyway, so long story short is that I think your daughter's got to follow her own conscience.
However, you talked about this is Disney in Shanghai, correct?
It is.
It's Shanghai or Hong Kong.
It could be either or.
Not for sure which one.
I'm worried about Hong Kong like I'm worried about Taiwan.
There's been a crackdown by the communist Chinese in Hong Kong.
And they are less free today, although they're certainly more hands-off Hong Kong than they are China itself.
And I will just tell you that I do not trust the communist Chinese.
They are actively now taking advantage of a president that is weak, frail, and a cognitive mess.
And it's very clear that they are working hard to create a new axis of evil with them, Iran and Russia.
And they're literally peeling away one of our allies a day, it seems, because Joe Biden has abdicated his role.
And he's ignored these relationships.
The Saudis have chosen the communist Chinese.
The Saudis even allowed the Chinese to broker a deal with them and Iran.
And they've always hated each other.
And now they're doing the same thing with Syria.
And I guarantee you, Kim Jong-un is going to get in the mix soon.
I would not recommend any American go to China.
I would not recommend any American go to Russia.
Obviously, you can't get into North Korea.
I doubt you'd be able to get into North Korea unless your name is Dennis Rodman.
But short of that, I would stay away.
Now, as it relates to Disney as a company, I think they are hurting their business in a major way.
And number one, the cost is astronomical now.
And there are too many competitors out there.
If you want to take your kids to an amusement park, I can promise you six flags.
They're going to have the time of their life.
And they have characters there too.
Maybe not Disney characters, but they have other characters there.
So personally, I'm not a big boycott, cancel person.
I've never done it.
Fire person.
I've never asked for anyone to be fired.
Would I be interested in working for a woke company?
No, I would not.
Okay.
Does that answer your question?
You've helped.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate you all.
All right.
Thank you.
You're a good mom.
You're looking out for your daughter.
That's awesome.
Danny is in Florida.
What's up, Danny?
How are you?
And the man, the free state of Florida.
Yes, sir.
I am the Southern Sean Hannity.
Oh, Lord.
I hear you talk about all the odd jobs you had growing up.
Well, I was the same way here in Florida.
Anyway.
I love, but now people say, well, Hannity, what do you know?
You're rich, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You know what bothers me about that?
Respect for you.
You came up doing that stuff.
Listen, you know what bothers me about it?
Listen, I struggled to pay my rent for really a lot of years in my early adulthood.
I had to drop out of college because I didn't have any more money to pay for it.
And I had to pay my rent.
And I did all these.
We're talking about two decades of my life.
You know, almost 10 years in the restaurant business and 10 years as a contractor, painting contractor, doing all that stuff.
And, you know, and then people, you're rich, Hannity.
I'm like, no, my mindset is still like it was back then.
I still dress like a slob like I did back then.
I can't stand wearing a tie.
By the way, have you noticed I'm getting away with not wearing a tie a lot now on TV?
But don't tell anybody.
Anyway, and I don't know.
I mean, I'll tell you what I do like to do with money.
I like to do nice things for people.
I like to donate it when I can.
I'd like to be able to take care of my family when I can and help them.
And that's what I do.
And when I started in radio, I did it for free.
I did it for free for a long time.
My first paid job in radio was $19,000 a year in Huntsville, Alabama, and I was happy as a clam.
My next paid job in radio was in Atlanta.
I got paid $48,000 a year.
And I thought, hey, I might actually make money in this doing what I love.
Did I ever think all these great things would ever happen to me?
No.
Is it undeserved?
I look at my life as an undeserved life and that God has blessed me.
And that I think he, you know, I don't know why.
I want to share those blessings with other people.
But my motivation stayed the same all throughout.
I want to talk about saving our country and having the best America we can be.
Well, I can tell you, I'm a diehard conservative.
Before Trump went in office, I told everybody, you know, this is going to be our next president.
No, he's not.
Yeah, he is.
Yeah, he is.
And then now it's coming down to, I have the best governor out of all 50 states, far none.
And now I think they're going to go at it.
I'm a big fan of DeRon DeSantis, and he's done a great job as governor.
And I think I know where you're going with this.
And I believe Donald Trump did a great job as president, especially under the circumstances of being attacked every second minute hour of every day and still being attacked every second minute hour of every day.
I think he did a great job as president also.
I like both of them.
Yes, he did.
Other than Ronald Reagan, and I think he kind of maybe surpassed Ronald Reagan with what he did.
Amazing accomplishments.
And look at what has happened in two years and four months, a disaster.
Right.
I'm paying over $3.60 a gallon of gas.
Oh, by the way, it's going to go up.
We're going to be back $4 or $5 range coming soon.
OPEC, after they aligned, after the Saudis aligned with China, they immediately cut back on the production of crude 1.3 million barrels of oil they cut from production to raise prices.
That's just, I don't get it.
And then when Trump was on your show, President Trump was on your show, I remember him saying that he could handle Ukraine in 24 hours.
It'd be done.
I think I know what he's saying, but I don't want to speculate.
But I had a pretty good idea what he was saying.
Could have done it.
Look, I think what he's realizing is whether Ukraine wants to admit it or not, the Donbass region of Ukraine is heavily Russian, and it's Russian-dominated.
And I think that he would probably say, all right, they're getting this part.
They'll keep Crimea.
You get the rest of the country.
And Vladimir, if you move one inch further, I will obliterate you.
That's what my guess is.
Yes, sir.
I firmly believe that too.
But he would handle it, unlike what we have in there now.
Well, listen, he also says if he was president, it never would have happened.
And by the way, look, Crimea was annexed when Biden was vice president and Obama was president.
In the four years Donald Trump was president, Russia didn't make a move.
They didn't budge.
He did wipe out the caliphate, took out Soleimani, the world's biggest terrorist responsible for killing Americans in Iraq.
He took out Baghdadi and associates.
He took out the al-Qaeda leader in Yemen.
But, you know, the caliphate grew under Obama and Biden.
This guy spoke tough.
And you know what?
Here's the difference.
He was strong.
And President Xi and Putin, they absolutely had respect for that strength.
And they believed he would go there.
They believed he was capable of doing anything.
And that kept them in check.
That check is now gone because they know that your president today is checked out, doesn't know what day of the week it is.
Today's Thursday, Joe, if you're listening.
Well, Listen, it's the nature of at some point during a primary, let me, because a lot of people ask me about this.
At some point in a primary, it's going to get ugly.
It always does.
I wish it weren't happening now.
I know that like I really believe that one day Ron DeSantis has all the capabilities to be president.
I really do.
And I know that people are torn.
They don't like, you know, some people like Donald Trump.
Some people say, well, wait a minute.
You wouldn't be there but for Donald Trump.
That was the answer he gave me.
But he hasn't announced that he's getting in yet.
So let's see what happens.
Let's see how this unfolds.
We don't know how deep and bad Donald Trump's legal troubles are going to get.
They're trying to get him in an orange jumpsuit.
That I can tell you.
Yeah, that's a shame.
All of a misdemeanor.
And the statute of limitations is well gone.
Well, that's a different case.
I don't know what's happening in Georgia.
I don't know what's happening with the special counsel.
You know, the things that I hear, my sources give me information, what I put together, I don't like what I'm hearing.
I'm hearing that it's all bad.
There's nothing that I'm hearing that I say, oh, that's good.
Not one thing.
Well, they are going full throttle to destroy him.
And they might be successful.
I don't know.
Let's hope not.
I hope not.
Not good for the country.
But I'll tell you what, now that they set the precedent, Joe Biden, pay close attention because your family is up next.
800-941-Sean, our number.
Thank you, Danny.
Appreciate the call.
Let's say hi to Robert in Georgia.
What's up, Robert?
How are you?
Doing just great, Sean.
Thank you for taking my call.
Thank you, sir.
What's going on?
Oh, well, I just thought that you would get a kick out of this.
My wife and I were in Savannah, Georgia this past Saturday night.
We dropped our daughters off for their senior prom.
We went to eat at our favorite restaurant and had to wait a little while.
So we just walked down to the next bar.
And there was a wonderful bartender from Bulgaria.
And we got to talking to her.
And I asked her, you know, what she likes about Georgia.
And then I asked her, what does she miss the most about Bulgaria?
And what she said astonished me.
She said, I miss free speech.
Well, you know, people that seem to come from countries that are oppressive.
Like, for example, every Cuban American I've ever met loves freedom a little bit more than we do because they know what life was like without it.
Every person from the former Soviet Union or Russia that comes to America, they seem to appreciate freedom more than we do.
And maybe it's because we take it for granted.
But we ought to remember at all times the admonition of Ronald Reagan that freedom is but one generation away from extinction.
That should be something in the back of our minds at all times.
Anyway, good call, my friend.
I appreciate you being with us.
Thank you.
President, how many times have you ever spoken to your son about his overseas business dealings?
I've never spoken to my son about his overseas business.
I have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone else anything having to do with their businesses, period.
And what I will do is the same thing we did in our administration.
There will be an absolute wall between personal and private and the government.
Do you stand by your statement that you did not discuss any of your son's overseas business deals?
I stand by that statement.
He's been working diligently on a high-profile case, and I can't even talk to what case that is and for others to put that together.
But he was concerned that Things that he would attend meetings in this investigation, and he was concerned about some statements by a senior political appointee from the Department of Justice that contradicted what he knew to be the facts of the case.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
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