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	Music All right, hour two, Sean Hannity Show.
	Thank you for being with us.
	800 nine-four-one Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
	Joining us now is our friend and congressman and the head of the all-important House Judiciary Committee involved in the investigation into whether or not your DOJ has been weaponized and the FBI politicized.
	Jim Jordan, the chairman is with us.
	Sir, how are you?
	I'm fine, Sean.
	Good to be with you.
	Let me start with breaking news.
	Apparently, you may not know this yet.
	I assume you probably do, uh, that you have been sued by Alvin Bragg to block the alleged, quote, interference into the Trump case.
	That's what he is claiming.
	That's crazy.
	I mean, think about this, Sean.
	First, they use federal funds to indict the former president for no crime, and then when we try to investigate, they take us to court.
	That I mean, such a deal for the American people.
	That they're arguing that we're obstructing their they're obstructing our constitutional duty to do the oversight when they are interfering in a federal election with the guy who's leading in every single poll.
	So uh they must be hiding something because for goodness sake, what just talk to us.
	And the guy we want to talk to, Sean, he's already left the district attorney.
	He's written a book about this particular subject, done multiple interviews, but no, no, no, Alvin Bragg takes it to the court.
	They don't even want us to talk to Mr. Palmarant, who hasn't worked for uh for for Alvin Bragg for a year.
	All right, let's talk about Pomerans, because I think this goes to the heart of a lot of this.
	Now, uh, just as a a little background in history here, I know the Mueller people looked at this issue.
	Uh we know that the FEC looked at the issue.
	I interviewed the former head of the FEC and said there's no violation at all.
	Uh I also know we also know that the previous Manhattan District attorney, Cyrus Vance, passed on this, and we know the DOJ passed on this.
	And initially Alvin Bragg passed on this.
	The only thing that it changed, it looks like, is the fact that Pomerantz wrote this book and he had an axe to grind against Donald Trump.
	Palmerant left, pitched a fit, got the left off fired up.
	Maybe most importantly, President Trump announces he's running for president and is leading in every single poll.
	But you're exactly right.
	The DOJ wouldn't take the case.
	The FET, Brad Smith, great guy.
	You had him on your show, outlined why this is there was no case there.
	Sai Vance wouldn't uh take the case, and Alvin Bragg wouldn't take it until what we just described took place.
	So again, they have no case.
	They use federal money to bring this indictment against President Trump, and now we're trying to get to the bottom of it and talk to someone who no longer works there, and they take us to court.
	Wow.
	So so much for the American people knowing what's going on and having an election where you don't have interference from the left in the in in that in that particular election.
	Are you convinced as I am that in the 2020 election, knowing what we know now about Hillary Clinton, her bought and paid for dirty dossier, never mind the 33,000 deleted emails, never mind the devices destroyed with hammers.
	Uh, but the fact in early October that the FBI offered Christopher Steele a million dollars if he could corroborate the the steel dossier, the Russian disinformation dossier Hillary paid for, he couldn't do it, but yet by late October they used that as the bulk of information to obtain that first Pfizer warrant.
	Uh, and it was Andrew McCabe, deputy FBI director, that said that without the dossier, they never would have gotten the FISA application approved.
	So do you believe the FBI purposely lied to a court, number one, and number two, did it to spy on a presidential candidate and renewed it to spy on a president.
	Yeah, that's exactly what happened.
	And they paid a foreigner, Christopher Steele, to go dig up dirt, dig up information that wasn't accurate.
	False information, probably talked to Russians together.
	They always talk about Russian interference and like they they paid a foreigner to go talk to Russians to put together a fake dossier that they used in the FISA court.
	And the guy behind you who said that that happened, Andy McCabe.
	Oh, by the way, Andy McCabe's the same guy who last week said Alvin Bragg doesn't have much of a case.
	When when Andy McKay says the Alvin Bragg's indictment, Alvin Bragg's case is not too strong.
	That tells you this case is nothing.
	It's complete garbage, and the American people understand it.
	Okay.
	Now let's go to 2020, because we know that the FBI obtained the laptop of Hunter Biden in December of 2019.
	That that is not in dispute.
	Uh, we know now what information is on that laptop.
	We know that it was very damning towards Hunter Biden, uh, yet they never took the time to authenticate it, something that probably would have taken them no more than forty-eight or seventy-two hours.
	Uh, and yet FBI agents and a team of agents uh were assigned a project to meet with big tech companies leading up to the twenty twenty presidential election, and they were to meet with the big tech companies and warn them that they might be victims of a misinformation campaign,
	and that misinformation, according to the Missouri case under then attorney general, now Senator Eric Schmidt, the head of site integrity for Twitter, uh Yolden, uh Roth is the guy uh that admitted that some of the misinformation that they were warned they might get is about Hunter Biden.
	Is that true?
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	It's Warren Declaration from the old Roth.
	He says he repeatedly met with the government, FBI and other agencies.
	They told him to expect a hack and leak operation, to expect it in October, and that it was going to be about Hunter Biden.
	So when that all happens, they're like, wow, these these guys were clairvoyant.
	They predicted the future.
	Well, they can do that because as you point out, Sean, they had the laptop and they'd had it for almost a year.
	Now, whether they looked at it or not, I don't know.
	But what I do know is they did this sort of pre bunking of the Hunter Biden story, and then that information, not let that information be shared and liked and and distributed uh to to we, the people, in the run-up to the election, and everyone knows it had a huge impact on the election.
	So this is this is how our government now operates.
	And I would say it's bigger than just twenty-six and twenty twenty, because in twenty eight and twenty eighteen, they also had the Mueller investigation.
	So 2016 they spied on his campaign.
	Twenty eighteen they had the Moeller investigation, and twenty twenty they suppressed the Hunter Biden story.
	And of course, this past election, they raided President Trump's home ninety-one days before the election to impact the election.
	And oh, by the way, Joe Biden had a classified document concern, and they didn't tell us that, even though they knew about it before the election.
	That's all true.
	Now the question, I guess that's what we're talking about.
	Four separate elections, maybe was it one, two, three, four separate elections now in a row that they put their their thumb on the scale.
	Do you now believe, and I know there are many whistleblowers to come, and I've interviewed a couple of FBI whistleblowers.
	Do you believe the FBI has been politicized?
	And do you believe that there is now incontrovertible evidence that the DOJ's weaponized?
	Well, it sure seems that way based on the whistleblowers what they told us, and we talked about this last night on your on your show.
	But when you see what the Richmond Field Office did, where they were actively trying to get informant, put developed sources within churches, within Catholic parishes in the Richmond area, and this memorandum was sent across the country to the other FBI field offices.
	This memorandum was approved by two senior analysts and the chief division counsel.
	So the top lawyer in the Richmond field office okay this process where they were going into churches trying to develop sources and informants spying on fellow parishioners.
	That is such a violation of the first amendment.
	So we see that coupled with all we just described with the election.
	And now, of course, here we are in 2024, and you have, even though it's not the FBI, you have Alvin Bragg, someone hard left, DA, who's going after President Trump, indicts him.
	So here we're now up to five elections in a row where they're trying to impact the election process.
	Let me go to this other issue and whether or not the FBI targeted Catholics.
	You have now issued a subpoena to the FBI director, Christopher Ray.
	Uh you wrote in your letter that you have sought information from the FBI relating to a document from January of 2023 generated by the Richmond Field Office, quote, interest of racially and ethic ethnic ethically, I'm sorry, ethnically motivated violent extremists in radical traditionalist Catholic ideology almost certainly presents a new mitigation opportunity, and that the FBI derived at least one undercover employee.
	Now, Josh Hawley this morning, according to Fox News.com, accused the attorney general Merrick Garland this this morning of providing false testimony to the Senate last month when he said his department is not developing sources inside of Catholic churches and other houses of worship.
	Uh does it look like Merrick Garland lied under oath?
	Well, it looks like they were at least attempting to do that.
	Whether they carried that out or not, We don't know.
	What we do know is because the brave whistleblowers who've come forward, they pulled back that memorandum that was issued from the Richmond field office.
	They said it is no longer no longer being put into place.
	But we don't know if it happened.
	We don't know what other field offices are doing.
	But thank goodness someone brought it forward.
	Because if they hadn't brought it forward, we might not know, and they may be still pursuing this, trying to develop informant and sources within the church of direct violation of the first liberty mentioned in the first amendment.
	Your right to practice your faith, freedom of religion.
	They were going after the most fundamental liberty we have.
	And um, so we don't know if they did it or not, but they were certainly looking to do it, and you had a lawyer approve that memorandum that was sent around.
	Let me go back to Alvin Bragg suing you because you have now pledged to have an open a probe into Bragg soft on crime policies, and that you are going to hear from the victims of crime because of New York.
	Now, fifty-two percent of felonies are dropped to misdemeanors under our Alvin Bragg.
	Felonies that are tried, he has a 49% success rate.
	This guy, I mean, which is a disaster, like the lowest in the country.
	But people are being victimized because of these no bail laws, defund dismantled police policies.
	Um why would he be against getting to the bottom of why why this system is not working and people are being killed and and attacked in the streets of New York because of this soft on crime uh posture.
	Yeah, who knows?
	I mean, he even said that you know, New York's the safest big city in the in the country.
	We all know this if that is an accurate.
	Um, I mean, this is just the left's ideology, this is what the left does, but it's harmful to families, it's harmful to communities, it's harmful to local business.
	It's just harmful, period.
	And we're gonna go up there and talk to victims.
	We're gonna talk to people who live in those areas and are gonna tell us what's happened to them, what's happened to their community, and this is part of a series I think we're gonna do with some other stops around the country working with the chairman of the of the crime subcommittee of judiciary.
	Um, we want to do this because we want to highlight just what happens when you put these hard lefties in these district attorney offices who are focused on politics going after President Trump instead of putting bad guys behind bars so they don't harm your family and your community.
	Let me go back to Mark Parmorant's for a minute, because uh initially he left the Manhattan DA's office, and if I'm not mistaken, I think he was working pro bono and just on the issue of getting Donald Trump, correct me if I'm wrong, Alvin Bragg ran just like a Letitia James the AG on a promise to get Donald Trump.
	And I played that many, many times.
	Pomorant's not happy with Bragg's decision to pass on what he himself describes as the zombie case, meaning the one involving Stormy Daniels, etc.
	But he also openly admitted that he believed President Trump was targeted and had to be stopped because he posed a real danger to the country and to the ideals that mattered to me.
	Now you have the AG, the Manhattan DA, and now this guy that was involved in the investigation into Trump clearly that have political agendas.
	Is that the way justice is to work in this country?
	No, it's not, and it's a classic example, it seems to me, and I think to to your listeners and viewers, Sean, that this is you know, show me the person I'll find the crime.
	And that's that's what they this was Mr. Pomerant's and Bragg DA office saying we're gonna go after President Trump and we're gonna figure out something to indict him on.
	And that's what they that's I think what they did.
	And it's so weak, as I said, even people on the left are saying this case doesn't make sense because their star witness, their star witness is Michael Cohen.
	And Michael Cohen, when he came and testified, I point this out.
	We don't hardly ever do uh criminal referrals to the Justice Department.
	But four years ago we did when Michael Cohen testified, the first big hearing the Democrats had back in 2019 in the Oversight Committee, he lied seven times under oath in front of the United States Congress.
	We did a referral, we sent it to the Justice Department because remember, Ms. Mr. Cohen went to prison for lying.
	So this is their star witness, and people are saying you can't bring this case.
	Even Alvin Bragg knew he couldn't bring this case until he got so much from the left because they saw President Trump ahead in the poll.
	Now, besides the fact that they they don't tell us what the actual crime is, which would be a violation of the Sixth Amendment, perhaps at some point we'll learn.
	But don't they have a timeline problem?
	And the timeline problem is is really this simple.
	If they're making the argument that Donald Trump had Michael Cohn do this on his behalf, and the payments were all of them, according to the indictment were made in 2017.
	But then in February of 2018, Michael Cohn's lawyer denied on his behalf, and he denied himself uh that the Trump organization, the Trump campaign or any campaign was involved in this deal.
	So don't and that's twenty eighteen after the money had been paid.
	So at some point do they have a timeline problem?
	I think they got a timeline problem.
	I think they got all kinds of problems.
	They got a witness problem they got the fact that they haven't even alleged what the crime is in the in the indictment last week.
	There are so many problems with this case, which, again, just underscores that this is politics.
	This is driven by political agenda from the left to stop the guy who, when he was president of the United States, did more of what he told the American people he was going to do, what he was elected to do, than any other president, certainly in my lifetime, maybe in the history of this great country.
	And that's what the left doesn't want.
	They don't want someone coming there and taking on the swamp.
	And so they're out to get him.
	And I'm afraid, Sean, as we talked about before, I'm afraid they're going to do this in Georgia.
	And I'm afraid the special counsel is going to come after him, too.
	And that will be so ridiculous, so ridiculous.
	wrong so unhealthy for our country.
	So they want a tsunami of legal uh issues bogging down Donald Trump's campaign is it so he can't run or he runs with a cloud over his head or they try to get him in an orange jumpsuit where's that where are they headed?
	It's probably all the above depending on which lefty you're talking to but it's all designed to make it difficult for more difficult for President Trump to win.
	I still think he will win I still think he's going to be president and get back to doing the good things he did in his first term Jordan I know that you're under fire because you dare to ask these questions thank you for your hard work thank you for putting yourself out there.
	The same goes with Jim Comer your uh your investigations are working in tandem you're on the judiciary committee you're the chairman he's the chairman of the House government reform and oversight committee uh we appreciate your hard work and appreciate you being with us thank you brother take care of a lot of news going on about how thing how the difference between a blue state and a red state now is it's never been this insane.
	For example you have a a California assemblyman by the name of Phil Ting I believe is his name claiming the community will be safer with criminals living amongst the people that's what he said.
	For decades, we had this idea that as a state, we could be safer if we put our inmates, our offenders in the most remote parts of the state.
	If we could just somehow separate them from their communities, separate them from us, separate them from their loved ones, from their family members, that somehow we'd be safer.
	And what we discovered, and I think San Quentin has proven it, that actually the exact opposite happened.
	is needed that we need to be surrounded by community they've been surrounded by community and that's the community where all the violence is happening all the drug use is happening all the mayhem and and and robbing and raping is happening.
	What the hell is this guy talking about?
	Stenow, let's stay out in San Francisco.
	I know Gavin Newsom is picking out the drapes for the White House for one day.
	He wants to make that run.
	He wants to do to California what he did to the rest of the country.
	About 13 months ago, Whole Foods in San Francisco, they opened.
	But they now have to close Whole Foods in San Francisco, at least for the time being, because they cannot ensure the safety of their team members in the store.
	you know, deteriorating conditions.
	around the store drug use crime near the grocery store led Whole Foods to make the decision to close these doors jobs will be lost because they cannot protect the people that work for Whole Foods out there.
	You know California's economy on edge is is is literally about to go over the cliff.
	Remember they're they're heading into you know his recession fear as the recession now keeps going on and the economic turndown continues to go on in large part because of the idiocy of these you know climate alarmist religious cultists uh it's hurt tax revenues the state's hundred billion dollar surface uh surplus is now becoming a twenty five billion dollar uh debt and deficit for the state of California.
	That's not good.
	I mean, why is this happening?
	Because they're allowing it to happen.
	If for example, story after story in New York, they are fighting in New York.
	The governor Hokel cannot get bail reform in New York because the assembly speaker and others, and not but that her bail law is that particularly onerous.
	I mean, they they're letting criminals out left and right, even violent criminals all over the state of New York.
	And anyway, they nothing's gonna be settled as the state is having a budget standoff over the issue of these idiotic no bail laws, and they just continue to do it.
	You look at the front cover, today's New York Post, the cost after defund the police and justice reforms, U.S. children killed by guns jumped 50%.
	Forty-six percent of all victims happen to be uh black, 83% are male.
	That's what that those are the new statistics.
	Got a picture in the paper of this this young man in his coffin.
	And I'm like, I how much more are we gonna take about this?
	You know, it we did get crime and murder and and rape and serious violent crimes under control in New York under Rudy Giuliani.
	You know, he had stop and frisk, but that wasn't good enough.
	Then of course, we got a literally an image.
	You have a battle going on about weed shops in New York.
	They've they've legalized weed, and instead of picking, for example, veterans to run these companies, well, they have decided to roll out a policy uh that is basically shutting out all of the the people, you know.
	Uh all of the licenses, for example, to veterans, but they're giving licenses for weed shops to felons.
	You know, outrage mounting in New York over Hokel's decision to give convicted drug felons preference over disabled military vets in awarding the licenses to run marijuana dispensaries.
	Well, that makes a lot of sense.
	And you have an example.
	They have a picture of a guy inside one of these weed shops...
	Executing in broad daylight, you know, another another customer.
	It's all on surveillance video.
	I mean, this is insane.
	The guy didn't even have a mask on, just walks right out, blew the guy's brains out, he's dead, and that's New York for you.
	So all of this now is is costing lives.
	Let's look, let's give the licenses, the very few licenses to felons.
	That's what we'll do.
	We'll forget about injured vets.
	Then if you look at The Sun has a great article today, the left is killing our great cities, talking in this case about Chicago and the new mayor, Brandon Johnson may turn out to be the worst mayor uh in the history of the city, even worse than Laurie Lightweight.
	You know, his occupation is an organizer for the teachers' unions.
	This guy ran on the same idiotic platform, no bail, you know, and defund and dismantle insanity.
	It's unbelievable.
	And by the way, Democrats just chose Chicago as the site for the 2024 convention.
	God help us all.
	But that means, Linda, we're gonna be stuck in Chicago someplace.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, yeah.
	Mm-hmm.
	Hell oh, you're not going?
	I'll tell you right now, we're gonna do that from a remote location across the pond.
	It's gonna be beautiful.
	Safe space, and how am I gonna get from point A to point B in the middle of a convention?
	You need to be in the middle of where the convention is.
	I don't see why we can't just have our own convention and just have a bird's eye view.
	Just, you know, hey, we're just across the river.
	Looks like things are going well, only 10 shootings.
	And then when I have to get to TV, it's gonna take me seven hours to get there, and I'll miss TV.
	Again, across the pond.
	Just thinking out loud, you know, choice of life over the convention, you know.
	We'll be surrounded by Sensei and and everybody else in between.
	It's just ridiculous that this is how we have to think about it.
	We can't just go somewhere.
	We can't just attend something.
	We have to think about how safe is it?
	How how how do we actually get from point A to point B?
	All right, let's get to our busy phones.
	Let's go out to California.
	I guess we have Kathleen is standing by.
	Kathleen, hi, how are you?
	Glad you called.
	Hi, Sean.
	I have watched your show for years.
	I listened to you on the radio for years, and I'm happy to be able to speak with you.
	I wanted to talk to you about um you say a lot how many times uh the hatred for President Trump.
	That's what I'd like to talk about.
	Okay.
	Um I live in Southern California now, but I am a Californian.
	I grew up in the Bay Area, San Francisco Bay Area, and I would like to let the nation know that Californians are not these leftist nuts.
	We have had our state be taken over by the Democrats.
	And anyway, to President Trump.
	Yes, it is.
	It's let me let me beg uh beg to differ.
	Yes, it is.
	There is pure an adulterated hate.
	They're scared of him because of what he will do.
	And my point is as uh in where I live now in Los Alamitos, Southern California, and all I mean I have there's Trump supporters everywhere here.
	Everywhere, and we love him.
	And he'd lose California by ten points minimum.
	Um our voting is so messed up here.
	Um I believe that to be true, but I just want to tell you that there is millions, I don't know millions of Trump supporters, but I do know at least a thousand in my I mean just in the city I live in.
	Um Listen, the these big suburban areas, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland, etc.
	You know, they are so predominantly Democrat, liberal Democrat, it's it's there's no thought process that goes into their voting.
	You know, th this is the scary part of what I call it accelerated migration, and that means the people that are leaving Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, uh uh, and and by the way, and moving to states like Florida, etc., etc.
	Because for a Republican to win uh a national election, they've got they've got to run the table.
	They gotta win Florida Ohio.
	Okay, that's gotten easier for a Republican, but now Georgia's gotten harder.
	North Carolina's gotten harder, Pennsylvania's always been hard, Wisconsin's always been hard.
	Michigan's always been hard, especially in recent elections.
	So uh Arizona, same thing is hard.
	And so they have to run the table to win.
	That's why they better adopt the same standards that the Democrats are using in terms of running campaigns.
	That means uh embracing mail-in early voting, embracing also uh ballot harvesting uh because if they if they don't do it, they're just gonna continue to lose.
	You can't start out every election down hundreds of thousands of votes and expect to make it up.
	Well, no, I I do agree with you on that.
	Um I don't like it, but it is what it is, and we have to fight fire with fire.
	I'm we're tired of all this craziness, the insanity every single day.
	I mean, here in in uh Southern California you can't pull up to a stoplight with having to look to your left and right to make sure that there's not some nut jog coming towards your car.
	I mean, we have people here, I'm in uh uh my office is in Long Beach, and they're on the roads with machete, the homeless are everywhere, and newsome.
	We tried to recall him, and I know we all know here in California that we had him recalled, but the vote disappeared.
	So the b the bottom line is but if you really want my best advice for you, I don't think that California is going to be salvageable.
	That's my honest opinion in the near term, meaning for the next few decades.
	Things can change after that.
	I mean, America is now on the precipice of a It's a very, very dangerous, you know, combination of things happening at once.
	One is America's abdicated its role on the world stage.
	China is now filling the void.
	And to do so, they've aligned with Russia.
	They've aligned with Iran.
	They have now aligned the Saudis have chosen sides as well.
	Even McCron is meeting with President Xi saying, well, if they invade Taiwan, we're not going to lift a finger to help America help its ally.
	They're not even doing in Europe enough to protect Ukraine.
	They're in their own backyard.
	I am telling you, between that and the economic downturn and America's dependence on energy, the lifeblood of the world's economy, we are in a very dire place right now, and a very vulnerable place, and our enemies see how weak your president is.
	And they're going to take full advantage.
	And how this manifests itself, I can't predict, but but the fear level that I have, I it's it's a DEF COM 5 moment for the country to me.
	And I don't think I'm going to be proven wrong, but I hope I'm proven wrong.
	I'm not usually wrong on stuff like this.
	But Kathleen, I gotta let you go.
	I gotta get other callers on here.
	Appreciate the call.
	All right, quick break right back.
	We'll hit your phone calls, 800-941 Sean on number as we continue.
	Up next, our final roundup and information overload hours.
	Chris is in Pennsylvania.
	What's up, Chris?
	Hey, Sean, how are you doing?
	It's good to be uh talking to you again today.
	I gotta tell you, for once I finally got to watch your TV show and not hear it from my truck speakers.
	And I gotta tell you, after hearing the great one and what Jim Jordan had to say yesterday, I mean, I heard the applause, and I was I was inside I was applauding too, but the reality set in after what the great one had to say.
	And and honestly, at 52 years old, the first time I legitimately felt fear because I've been paying attention.
	You know, even you say, you know, don't believe me.
	Find out for yourself.
	And the truth is, Sean, I trust you and what you and Mark Levin have to say and a few others, but I was really impacted by what he had to say because I've been watching how the dollar's been attacked.
	I see what's going on with other countries like France, and you just said it perfectly.
	I mean, these is a big deal.
	And they're and being a truck driver, 90% of the time, I get to hear it from the other side of a set of speakers.
	And maybe it was because I watched your show last night, but it really impacted me.
	And I gotta be honest with you.
	It was the first time I really felt like my grandfather did back in the Cuban Missile Crisis.
	It's what I felt like.
	Well, you have every reason if you I think this is the most dangerous situation since the end of World War II and the end of the Cold War.
	I really do.
	I I put it at that level.
	And what America is not realizing is that having abdicated our role, not only as the leader of the free world, but uh the world leader in every category.
	I mean, that they're they're going right after the U.S. dollar.
	They want to diminish the value of the dollar.
	They don't want it to be the world's currency.
	Um, the fact that people are now choosing sides.
	The Saudis have chosen sides.
	I read today Egypt is giving weapons to Vladimir Putin.
	Now Egypt has abandoned the coalition that Trump created, and and they now are choosing sides too.
	And they're not they're not betting on America.
	They're betting on America losing and China winning.
	And China will then be the more dominant force in the world, and we know what that means.
	We know their territorial ambitions, and we know so much more.
	Anyway, thank you, my friend.
	Uh, God bless you.
	Thanks for what you do every day.
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