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	Thank you for being with us, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
	Joining us now is our friend and congressman and the head of the all-important House Judiciary Committee involved in the investigation into whether or not your DOJ has been weaponized and the FBI politicized.
	Jim Jordan, the chairman, is with us.
	Sir, how are you?
	I'm fine, Sean.
	Good to be with you.
	Let me start with breaking news.
	Apparently, you may not know this yet.
	I assume you probably do, that you have been sued by Alvin Bragg to block the alleged, quote, interference into the Trump case.
	That's what he is claiming.
	That's crazy.
	I mean, they're the ones interfering with our investigation.
	I mean, think about this, Sean.
	First, they use federal funds to indict the former president for no crime.
	And then when we try to investigate, they take us to court.
	That, I mean, such a deal for the American people.
	They're arguing that we're obstructing.
	They're obstructing our constitutional duty to do the oversight when they are interfering in a federal election with the guy who's leading in every single poll.
	So they must be hiding something because, for goodness sake, just talk to us.
	And the guy we want to talk to, Sean, he's already left the district attorney.
	He's written a book about this particular subject, done multiple interviews.
	But no, no, no, Alvin Bragg takes it to court.
	They don't even want us to talk to Mr. Pomerance, who hasn't worked for Alvin Bragg for a year.
	All right, let's talk about Pomerance because I think this goes to the heart of a lot of this.
	Now, just as a little background and history here, I know the Mueller people looked at this issue.
	We know that the FEC looked at the issue.
	I interviewed the former head of the FEC and said there's no violation at all.
	We also know that the previous Manhattan District Attorney, Cyrus Vance, passed on this, and we know the DOJ passed on this.
	And initially, Alvin Bragg passed on this.
	The only thing that had changed, it looks like, is the fact that Pomerance wrote this book, and he had an axe to grind against Donald Trump.
	Pomerance left, pitched a fit, got the left off fired up.
	Maybe most importantly, President Trump announces he's running for president and is leading in every single poll.
	But you're exactly right.
	The DOJ wouldn't take the case.
	The FET, Brad Smith, great guy, you had him on your show, outlined why there was no case there.
	Zybanes wouldn't take the case, and Alvin Bragg wouldn't take it until what we just described took place.
	So again, they have no case.
	They used federal money to bring this indictment against President Trump.
	And now we're trying to get to the bottom of it and talk to someone who no longer works there, and they take us to court.
	Wow.
	So much for the American people knowing what's going on and having an election where you don't have interference from the left in that particular election.
	Are you convinced as I am that in the 2020 election, knowing what we know now about Hillary Clinton, her bought and paid for dirty dossier, never mind the 33,000 deleted emails, never mind the devices destroyed with hammers, but the fact in early October that the FBI offered Christopher Steele a million dollars if he could corroborate this deal dossier,
	the Russian disinformation dossier Hillary paid for, he couldn't do it, but yet by late October, they used that as the bulk of information to obtain that first FISA warrant.
	And it was Andrew McCabe, deputy FBI director, that said that without the dossier, they never would have gotten the FISA application approved.
	So do you believe the FBI purposely lied to a court, number one, and number two, did it to spy on a presidential candidate and renewed it to spy on a president?
	Yeah, that's exactly what happened.
	And they paid a foreigner, Christopher Steele, to go dig up dirt, dig up information that wasn't accurate, false information, probably talk to Russians to get it.
	They always talk about Russian interference.
	They paid a foreigner to go talk to Russians to put together a fake dossier that they used and defies the court.
	And the guy behind you who said that that happened, Andy McCabe, oh, by the way, Andy McCabe's the same guy who last week said Alvin Bragg doesn't have much of a case.
	When Andy McKay says that Alvin Bragg's indictment, Alvin Bragg's case is not too strong, that tells you this case is nothing.
	It's complete garbage, and the American people understand it.
	Okay, now let's go to 2020 because we know that the FBI obtained the laptop of Hunter Biden in December of 2019.
	That is not in dispute.
	We know now what information is on that laptop.
	We know that it was very damning towards Hunter Biden, yet they never took the time to authenticate it, something that probably would have taken them no more than 48 or 72 hours.
	And yet FBI agents and a team of agents were assigned a project to meet with big tech companies leading up to the 2020 presidential election.
	And they were to meet with the big tech companies and warn them that they might be victims of a misinformation campaign.
	And that misinformation, according to the Missouri case, under then Attorney General, now Senator Eric Schmidt, the head of site integrity for Twitter, Yolden Roth is the guy that admitted that some of the misinformation that they were warned they might get is about Hunter Biden.
	Is that true?
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	It's worn declaration from Joel Roth.
	He says he repeatedly met with the government, FBI and other agencies.
	They told him to expect a hack and leak operation, to expect it in October, and that it was going to be about Hunter Biden.
	So when that all happens, they're like, wow, these guys were clairvoyant.
	They predicted the future.
	Well, they could do that because, as you pointed out, Sean, they had the laptop and they'd had it for almost a year.
	Now, whether they looked at it or not, I don't know.
	But what I do know is they did this sort of pre-bunking of the Hunter Biden story and then that information, not let that information be shared and liked and distributed to we, the people, in the run-up to the election.
	And everyone knows it had a huge impact on the election.
	So this is how our government now operates.
	And I would say it's bigger than just 26 and 2020 because in 2018, they also had the Mueller investigation.
	So 2016, they spied on this campaign.
	2018, they had the Mueller investigation.
	And 2020, they suppressed the Hunter Biden story.
	And of course, this past election, they raided President Trump's home 91 days before the election to impact the election.
	And oh, by the way, Joe Biden had a classified document concern, and they didn't tell us that, even though they knew about it before the election.
	That's all true.
	Now, the question, I guess, that's what we're talking about.
	Four separate elections.
	Was it one, two, three, four separate elections now in a row that they put their thumb on the scale?
	Do you now believe, and I know there are many whistleblowers to come, and I've interviewed a couple of FBI whistleblowers.
	Do you believe the FBI has been politicized?
	And do you believe that there is now incontrovertible evidence that the DOJ is weaponized?
	Well, it sure seems that way based on the whistleblowers, what they've told us.
	And we talked about this last night on your show.
	But when you see what the Richmond Field Office did, where they were actively trying to get informants, put developed sources within churches, within Catholic parishes in the Richmond area.
	And this memorandum was sent across the country to the other FBI field offices.
	This memorandum was approved by two senior analysts and the chief division counsel.
	So the top lawyer in the Richmond field office okayed this process where they were going into churches, trying to develop sources and informants, spying on fellow parishioners.
	That is such a violation of the First Amendment.
	So we see that coupled with all we just described with the election.
	And now, of course, here we are in 2024, and you have, even though it's not the FBI, you have Alvin Bragg, someone hard left, DA, who's going after President Trump, indict him.
	So here we're now up to five elections in a row where they're trying to impact the election process.
	Let me go to this other issue and whether or not the FBI targeted Catholics.
	You have now issued a subpoena to the FBI director Christopher Wray.
	You wrote in your letter that you have sought information from the FBI relating to a document from January of 2023 generated by the Richmond Field Office, quote, interest of racially and ethically, I'm sorry, ethnically motivated violent extremists and radical traditionalist Catholic ideology almost certainly presents a new mitigation opportunity and that the FBI derived at least one undercover employee.
	Now, Josh Hawley this morning, according to FoxNews.com, accused the Attorney General Merrick Garland this morning of providing false testimony to the Senate last month when he said his department is not developing sources inside of Catholic churches and other houses of worship.
	Does it look like Merrick Garland lied under oath?
	Well, it looks like they were at least attempting to do that.
	Whether they carried that out or not, we don't know.
	What we do know is because of brave whistleblowers who've come forward, they pulled back that memorandum that was issued from the Richmond Field Office.
	They said it is no longer being put into play.
	But we don't know if it happened.
	We don't know what other field offices are doing.
	But thank goodness someone brought it forward because if they hadn't brought it forward, we might not know.
	And they may be still pursuing this, trying to develop informants and sources within the church.
	A direct violation of the first liberty mentioned in the First Amendment, your right to practice your faith, freedom of religion.
	They were going after the most fundamental liberty we have.
	And so we don't know if they did it or not, but they were certainly looking to do it.
	And you had a lawyer approve that memorandum that was sent around.
	Let me go back to Alvin Bragg suing you because you have now pledged to have an open probe into Bragg's soft-on-crime policies and that you are going to hear from the victims of crime because of New York.
	Now, 52% of felonies are dropped to misdemeanors under Alvin Bragg.
	Felonies that are tried, he has a 49% success rate.
	This guy, I mean, which is a disaster, like the lowest in the country.
	But people are being victimized because of these no-bail laws, defund dismantled police policies.
	Why would he be against getting to the bottom of why this system is not working and people are being killed and attacked in the streets of New York because of this soft on crime posture?
	Yeah, who knows?
	I mean, he even said that, you know, New York's the safest big city in the country.
	We all know this, if that isn't accurate.
	I mean, this is just the left ideology.
	This is what the left does, but it's harmful to families.
	It's harmful to communities.
	It's harmful to local business.
	It's just harmful, period.
	And we're going to go up there and talk to victims.
	We're going to talk to people who live in those areas, and they're going to tell us what's happened to them, what's happened to their community.
	And this is part of a series I think we're going to do with some other stops around the country working with the chairman of the Crime Subcommittee of Judiciary.
	We want to do this because we want to highlight just what happens when you put these hard lefties in these district attorney offices who are focused on politics, going after President Trump, instead of putting bad guys behind bars so they don't harm your family and your community.
	Let me go back to Mark Pomerance for a minute because initially he left the Manhattan DA's office.
	And if I'm not mistaken, I think he was working pro bono and just on the issue of getting Donald Trump, correct me if I'm wrong, Alvin Bragg ran just like Letitia James the AG on a promise to get Donald Trump.
	And I've played that many, many times.
	Pomerantz, not happy with Bragg's decision to pass on what he himself describes as the zombie case, meaning the one involving Stormy Daniels, et cetera.
	But he also openly admitted that he believed President Trump was targeted and had to be stopped because he posed a real danger to the country and to the ideals that mattered to me.
	Now, you have the AG, the Manhattan DA, and now this guy that was involved in the investigation into Trump clearly that have political agendas.
	Is that the way justice is to work in this country?
	No, it's not.
	And it's a classic example, it seems to me, and I think to your listeners and viewers, Sean, that this is, you know, show me the person, I'll find the crime.
	And that's what they, this was Mr. Pomerant and Bragg DA office saying, we're going to go after President Trump and we're going to figure out something to indict him on.
	And that's what they, that's, I think, what they did.
	And it's so weak.
	As I said, even people on the left are saying this case doesn't make sense because their star witness, their star witness is Michael Cohen.
	And Michael Cohen, when he came and testified, I point this out.
	We don't hardly ever do criminal referrals to the Justice Department.
	But four years ago, we did.
	When Michael Cohen testified, the first big hearing the Democrats had back in 2019 in the Oversight Committee, he lied seven times under oath in front of the United States Congress.
	We did a referral.
	We sent it to the Justice Department because, and that's, remember, Mr. Cohen went to prison for lying.
	So this is their star witness, and people are saying, you can't bring this case.
	Even Alvin Bragg knew he couldn't bring this case until he got so much from the left because they saw President Trump ahead in the poll.
	Now, besides the fact that they don't tell us what the actual crime is, which would be a violation of the Sixth Amendment, perhaps at some point we'll learn.
	But don't they have a timeline problem?
	And the timeline problem is really this simple.
	If they're making the argument that Donald Trump had Michael Cohn do this on his behalf and the payments were all of them, according to the indictment, were made in 2017.
	But then in February of 2018, Michael Cohn's lawyer denied on his behalf and he denied himself that the Trump organization, the Trump campaign or any campaign was involved in this deal.
	And that's 2018 after the money had been paid.
	So at some point, do they have a timeline problem?
	I think they got a timeline problem.
	I think they got all kinds of problems.
	They got a witness problem.
	They got the fact that they haven't even alleged what the crime is in the indictment last week.
	So there are so many problems with this case, which again just underscores that this is politics.
	This is driven by political agenda from the left to stop the guy who, when he was president of the United States, did more of what he told the American people he was going to do, what he was elected to do, than any other president, certainly in my lifetime, maybe in the history of this great country.
	And that's what the left doesn't want.
	They don't want someone coming there and taking on the swamp.
	And so they're out to get him.
	And I'm afraid, Sean, as we talked about before, I'm afraid they're going to do this in Georgia.
	And I'm afraid the special counsel is going to come after him, too.
	And that will be so ridiculous, so wrong, so unhealthy for our country.
	So they want a tsunami of legal issues bogging down Donald Trump's campaign.
	Is it so he can't run or he runs with a cloud over his head or they try to get him in an orange jumpsuit?
	Where are they headed?
	It's probably all the above, depending on which lefty you're talking to, but it's all designed to make it difficult for more difficult for President Trump to win.
	I still think he will win.
	I still think he's going to be president and get back to doing the good things he did in his first term.
	Listen, Jim Jordan, I know that you're under fire because you dare to ask these questions.
	Thank you for your hard work.
	Thank you for putting yourself out there.
	The same goes with Jim Comer.
	Your investigations are working in tandem.
	You're on the Judiciary Committee.
	You're the chairman.
	He's the chairman of the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee.
	We appreciate your hard work and appreciate you being with us.
	Thank you, brother.
	Take care.
	There's a lot of news going on about how the difference between a blue state and a red state now is it's never been this insane.
	For example, you have a California assemblyman by the name of Phil Ting, I believe is his name, claiming the community will be safer with criminals living amongst the people.
	That's what he said.
	Decades, we had this idea that as a state, we could be safer if we put our inmates, our offenders, in the most remote parts of the state.
	If we could just somehow separate them from their communities, separate them from us, separate them from their loved ones, from their family members, that somehow we'd be safer.
	And what we discovered, and I think San Quentin has proven it, that actually the exact opposite is needed, that we need to be surrounded by community.
	They've been surrounded by community, and that's the community where all the violence is happening.
	All the drug use is happening, all the mayhem and robbing and raping is happening.
	What the hell is this guy talking about?
	Let's stay out in San Francisco.
	I know Gavin Newsom is picking out the drapes for the White House for one day.
	He wants to make that run, wants to do to California what he did to the rest of the country.
	About 13 months ago, Whole Foods in San Francisco, they opened, but they now have to close Whole Foods in San Francisco, at least for the time being, because they cannot ensure the safety of their team members in the store.
	Deteriorating conditions around the store, drug use, crime near the grocery store led Whole Foods to make the decision to close these doors.
	Jobs will be lost because they cannot protect the people that work for Whole Foods out there.
	You know, California's economy on edge is literally about to go over the cliff.
	Remember, they're heading into, you know, as recession fear, as the recession now keeps going on and the economic turndown continues to go on, in large part because of the idiocy of these, you know, climate alarmist religious cultists.
	It's hurt tax revenues.
	The state's $100 billion surplus is now becoming a $25 billion debt and deficit for the state of California.
	That's not good.
	I mean, why is this happening?
	Because they're allowing it to happen.
	For example, story after story in New York, they are fighting in New York.
	The Governor Hochul cannot get bail reform in New York because the assembly speaker and others, and not that her bail law is that particularly onerous.
	I mean, they're letting criminals out left and right, even violent criminals all over the state of New York.
	And anyway, nothing's going to be settled as the state is having a budget standoff over the issue of these idiotic no-bail laws.
	And they just continue to do it.
	You look at the front cover of today's New York Post, the cost after defund the police and justice reforms, U.S. children killed by guns jumped 50%.
	46% of all victims happen to be black.
	83% are male.
	Those are the new statistics.
	Got a picture in the paper of this young man in his coffin.
	And I'm like, how much more are we going to take about this?
	You know, we did get crime and murder and rape and serious violent crimes under control in New York under Rudy Giuliani.
	You know, he had stop and frisk, but that wasn't good enough.
	And, of course, we got literally an image.
	You have a battle going on about weed shops in New York.
	They've legalized weed.
	And instead of picking, for example, veterans to run these companies, well, they have decided to roll out a policy that is basically shutting out all of the people, you know, all of the licenses, for example, to veterans, but they're giving licenses for weed shops to felons.
	You know, outrage mounting in New York over Hochul's decision to give convicted drug felons preference over disabled military vets in awarding them licenses to run marijuana dispensaries.
	Well, that makes a lot of sense.
	And you have an example, they have a picture of a guy inside one of these weed shops executing in broad daylight, you know, another customer.
	It's all on surveillance video.
	I mean, this is insane.
	The guy didn't even have a mask on, just walks right out, blew the guy's brains out.
	He's dead.
	And that's New York for you.
	So all of this now is costing lives.
	Let's give the licenses, the very few licenses to felons.
	That's what we'll do.
	We'll forget about injured vets.
	Then if you look at The Sun has a great article today, the left is killing our great cities, talking in this case about Chicago and the new mayor, Brandon Johnson, may turn out to be the worst mayor in the history of the city, even worse than Laurie Lightweight.
	You know, his occupation as an organizer for the teachers' unions, this guy ran on the same idiotic platform, no bail, you know, and defund and dismantle insanity.
	It's unbelievable.
	And by the way, Democrats just chose Chicago as the site for the 2024 convention.
	God help us all.
	Oh, that means, Linda, we're going to be stuck in Chicago someplace.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, you're not going?
	I'll tell you right now, we're going to do that from a remote location across the pond.
	It's going to be beautiful.
	Beautiful.
	In a safe space?
	Safe space.
	And how am I going to get from point A to point B in the middle of a convention?
	You need to be in the middle of where the convention is.
	I don't see why we can't just have our own convention and just have a bird's eye view.
	Just, you know, hey, we're just across the river.
	Looks like things are going well.
	Only 10 shootings.
	And then when I have to get to TV, it's going to take me seven hours to get there and I'll miss TV.
	Again, across the pond, just thinking out loud, you know, choice of life over the convention, you know.
	We'll be surrounded by Sensei and everybody else in between.
	It's just ridiculous that this is how we have to think about it.
	We can't just go somewhere.
	We can't just attend something.
	We have to think about how safe is it?
	How do we actually get from point A to point B?
	All right, let's get to our busy phones.
	Let's go out to California.
	I guess we have Kathleen is standing by.
	Kathleen, hi, how are you?
	Glad you called.
	Hi, Sean.
	I have watched your show for years.
	I listened to you on the radio for years, and I'm happy to be able to speak with you.
	I wanted to talk to you about, you say a lot how many times the hatred for President Trump.
	That's what I'd like to talk about.
	Okay.
	All right with you.
	I live in Southern California now, but I am a Californian.
	I grew up in the Bay Area, San Francisco Bay Area.
	And I would like to let the nation know that Californians are not these leftist nuts.
	We have had our state be taken over by the Democrats.
	And anyways, to President Trump, it's not hatred that they have for President Trump.
	Yes, it is.
	Let me beg to differ.
	Yes, it is.
	There is pure unadulterated hate.
	They're scared of him because of what he will do.
	And my point is, is that in where I live now in Los Alamito, Southern California, and all, I mean, I have, there's Trump supporters everywhere here, everywhere, and we love him.
	And he'd lose California by 10 points minimum.
	You know, our voting is so messed up here.
	I believe that to be true.
	But I just want to tell you that there is millions.
	I don't know millions of Trump supporters, but I do know at least a thousand in my, I mean, just in the city I live in.
	Listen, these big suburban areas, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland, et cetera, you know, they are so predominantly Democrat, liberal Democrat, there's no thought process that goes into their voting.
	You know, this is the scary part of what I call accelerated migration.
	And that means the people that are leaving Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and by the way, moving to states like Florida, et cetera, et cetera.
	Because for a Republican to win a national election, they've got to run the table.
	They've got to win Florida, Ohio.
	Okay, that's gotten easier for a Republican, but now Georgia's gotten harder.
	North Carolina's gotten harder.
	Pennsylvania's always been hard.
	Wisconsin's always been hard.
	Michigan's always been hard, especially in recent elections.
	So Arizona, same thing is hard.
	And so they have to run the table to win.
	That's why they better adopt the same standards that the Democrats are using in terms of running campaigns.
	That means embracing mail-in early voting, embracing also ballot harvesting, because if they don't do it, they're just going to continue to lose.
	You can't start out every election down hundreds of thousands of votes and expect to make it up.
	Well, no, I do agree with you on that.
	I don't like it, but it is what it is.
	And we have to fight fire with fire.
	We're tired of all this craziness, the insanity every single day.
	I mean, here in Southern California, you can't pull up to a stoplight with having to look to your left and right to make sure that there's not some nut jog coming towards your car.
	I mean, we have people here.
	I'm in my office is in Long Beach, and they're on the roads with machete.
	The homeless are everywhere.
	And Newsom, we tried to recall him.
	And I know, we all know here in California that we had him recalled, but the vote disappeared.
	Well, the bottom line is, if you really want my best advice for you, I don't think that California is going to be salvageable.
	That's my honest opinion in the near term, meaning for the next few decades.
	Things can change after that.
	I mean, America is now on the precipice of it's a very, very dangerous combination of things happening at once.
	One is America has abdicated its role on the world stage.
	China is now filling the void.
	And to do so, they've aligned with Russia.
	They've aligned with Iran.
	They have now aligned.
	The Saudis have chosen sides as well.
	Even Macron is meeting with President Xi saying, well, if they invade Taiwan, we're not going to lift a finger to help America help its ally.
	They're not even doing in Europe enough to protect Ukraine.
	They're in their own backyard.
	I am telling you, between that and the economic downturn and America's dependence on energy, the lifeblood of the world's economy, we are in a very dire place right now and a very vulnerable place.
	And our enemies see how weak your president is.
	And they're going to take full advantage.
	And how this manifests itself, I can't predict, but the fear level that I have, it's a DEF COM 5 moment for the country to me.
	And I don't think I'm going to be proven wrong, but I hope I'm proven wrong.
	I'm not usually wrong on stuff like this.
	But Kathleen, I got to let you go.
	I got to get other callers on here.
	Appreciate the call.
	All right, quick break right back.
	We'll hit your phone calls, 800-941-Sean on number as we continue.
	Up next, our final roundup and information overload hour.
	All right, let's get back to our busy phones.
	Chris is in Pennsylvania.
	What's up, Chris?
	Hey, Sean, how you doing?
	It's good to be talking to you again today.
	I got to tell you, for once, I finally got to watch your TV show and not hear it from my truck speakers.
	And I got to tell you, after hearing the great one and what Jim Jordan had to say yesterday, I mean, I heard the applause and I was inside I was applauding too.
	But the reality set in after what the great one had to say.
	And honestly, at 52 years old, the first time I legitimately felt fear because I've been paying attention.
	You know, even you say, you know, don't believe me.
	Find out for yourself.
	And the truth is, Sean, I trust you and what you and Mark Levin have to say and a few others, but I was really impacted by what he had to say because I've been watching how the dollar's been attacked.
	I see what's going on with other countries like France, and you just said it perfectly.
	I mean, this is a big deal.
	And being a truck driver, 90% of the time, I get to hear it from the other side of a set of speakers.
	And maybe it was because I watched your show last night, but it really impacted me.
	And I got to be honest with you, it was the first time I really felt like my grandfather did back in the Cuban Missile Crisis.
	It's what I felt like.
	Well, you have every reason to feel.
	I think this is the most dangerous situation since the end of World War II and the end of the Cold War.
	I really do.
	I put it at that level.
	And what America is not realizing is that having abdicated our role, not only as the leader of the free world, but the world leader in every category.
	I mean, they're going right after the U.S. dollar.
	They want to diminish the value of the dollar.
	They don't want it to be the world's currency.
	The fact that people are now choosing sides, the Saudis have chosen sides.
	I read today Egypt is giving weapons to Vladimir Putin.
	Now Egypt has abandoned the coalition that Trump created.
	And they now are choosing sides too.
	And they're not betting on America.
	They're betting on America losing and China winning.
	And China will then be the more dominant force in the world.
	And we know what that means.
	We know their territorial ambitions and we know so much more.
	Anyway, thank you, my friend.
	God bless you.
	Thanks for what you do every day.
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