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If there's any upside to what is unfolding in our country today, it's a very selfish one, and there's no upside.
I can tell you right now, we're shredding our constitution.
You know, I had the great one on last night.
His he was his dire warning uh that we are post-constitutional America.
Think about that.
We're now witnessing this in real time.
This is not something you're gonna read about.
It's happening now right before your eyes is that I was scheduled uh for oral surgery today, and uh I got to put it off a day.
Now I have to do it over the weekend.
I'm like, uh, there goes your weekend.
But anyway, uh glad glad you are with us.
All right, so for the first time in history, unless well, not really.
I mean, unless you you want to bring up the case of Ulysses Grant, and I guess his carriage was uh going a little bit uh too fast, and and and apparently he got arrested at the time.
Not exactly the same thing, but I'll get to that in a second.
You know, I think the best headline that I saw uh just came out with the New York Post.
Uh Trump would have been better off robbing Stormy Daniels with a gun, and Bragg would have thrown the case out.
Because that's what he's known for.
I mean, we've gone over some of his track record, but this is a guy that downgrades 52% of all felony cases brought before him to misdemeanors.
This is the first time ever.
We keep talking about this novel legal theory that is being used by DA Bragg, the same DA that ran as a candidate to go after one man, Donald Trump, one organization, the Trump organization, one family, the Trump family.
Anyway, so he's he's come up with this novel legal theory to criminalize a non-disclosure agreement from seven years ago, and to take a a misdemeanor charge on the state level, which has a two-year statute of limitations and marry it to a federal law, which the the FEC had passed on, the DOJ had passed on, the Mueller investigation passed on.
This was the zombie case as described in that book by the former prosecutor that was mad that Bragg didn't go after Donald Trump for spitting on the sidewalk.
Um this is all now transparent.
So when Jonathan Turley says, you know, James Comey couldn't contain himself, it's been a good day.
This is a guy, remember, early October 2016.
The FBI sent agents over to meet Christopher Steele, offered him a million dollars if he could corroborate the dirty Hillary Clinton bought and paid for Russian dossier.
And guess what?
Christopher Steele could never collect his million dollars.
Now, how does that impact Comey?
It would have been a good day if he was charged.
We would have had equal justice under the law.
But we got one system of justice, if you are a liberal Democrat, Hillary Clinton, nine uh thirty-three thousand emails deleted, bleach bit, busted up devices, blackberries, iPhones with hammers, missing sim cards.
Uh no prosecutor would ever prosecute.
Top secret, classified information.
Unlike Donald Trump, she did not have the power to declassify as Secretary of State.
What happened?
No pro no reasonable prosecutor would ever prosecute.
Uh so James Comey, it's been a good day, former FBI director, teaching and speaking and writing books and being paid uh a fortune.
And meanwhile, this is the guy that couldn't pay Christopher Steele a million bucks, and then by the end of October, he signed that Pfizer warrant.
Uh, that in fact, even Andrew McCabe admitted with without the dirty dossier, they never would have had the Pfizer warrant approved.
So that was the bulk of information to get the Pfizer warrant.
Uh later, when under questioning from Lindsey Graham, all the people that signed the Pfizer applications said, well, knowing what we know now, I would not have signed it.
They knew then.
Forget about knowing now.
It says at the top of a Pfizer warrant.
It says verified.
Not only was it uh not verified, it was not verifiable, Period under the sentence.
You know, but but think about this.
Trump would have been better off robbing Stormy.
What is it what is Jonathan Turley talking about?
And he's he goes on to talk about Comey declining to prosecute Hillary for her email scandal, despite the fact that she violated federal rules and mishandled classified documents, just careless, just sloppy.
Just like Sandy Berger going into the National Archives.
He was sloppy, we were told by every liberal commentator.
He was sloppy because while in there, he removed certain documents.
I'd love to know what they are.
And how did he remove them?
Did he accidentally put them in a wrong pile and carry them out?
No.
He shoved him down his pants.
Just think maybe this is a case of sloppiness.
I'm sure it was a careless, sloppy moment.
He was sloppy about it.
I'm sloppy too as well.
I'm sloppy.
Everyone, I can appreciate the sloppiness was not something that we're going to regret later.
And it was a case of sloppiness, sloppy sloppy.
Sloppy.
Sloppy.
Anyone that goes to the National Archives, just know you're not going to get charged.
You know, it's considered sloppy if you take documents and you shove them right down your pants where your private parts are.
You shove it down your the other side of your pants where your backside is.
You shove it down your socks, and then you walk out with it, never to be seen uh seen again.
That's an amazing thing.
You know, so James Conn, it's been a good day.
You know, and then of course liberals are celebrating, but the actual charges, you know, we'll find out more with the indictment.
I'm going to tell you everything that Donald Trump will go through.
We expect now that this will take place on Tuesday at 215.
Joe uh uh the president's attorney, Joe Tacopino will join us today.
We'll also be checking in with our legal team and we'll get their take on how b weak this case is and how do they possibly get to 30 plus uh charges against Donald Trump.
It's probably each individual payment, is my guess is how that's going to play out.
Uh maybe a surprise or two.
I don't know.
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna speculate on on any of that.
Uh, but we do know what it is rooted in.
And we do know that we don't have equal justice under the law.
You know, Turley goes on to say, you know, when you think about it, Mueller could have gone after the Stormy Daniels issue, he did not.
The DOJ could have, they did not.
The FEC could have, they did not.
Uh uh Alvin Bragg's predecessor said, nah, he never got there after a couple of years of investigating this thing, after a number of years.
Uh, and even Bragg himself, he wanted no part of it in the beginning.
Then this guy writes a book and leaves the office and says that they're they're protecting Donald Trump.
This was called the zombie case by this guy.
But if you look at Bragg's record, he downgraded 52% of all felony cases to misdemeanors.
He doesn't he's not about the business of increasing uh the weight of a charge unless your name is Trump.
I mean, if you look at I'll give you a couple of plea deals that that Alvin Bragg was involved in two criminals involved in the 2018 fatal stabbing of a U.S. Army vet, father of three.
Uh, one of the attackers received a slap on the wrist prison sentence of seven years.
I mean, we're talking about murder, criminals involved, a stabbing death.
Anyway, seven years after taking a deal with Bragg's office, including pleading guilty to a lesser gang assault charge.
The other attacker took a deal with Bragg's office, pled guilty to assault, and only received time served in jail for the time she spent in jail while the case went through the courts.
No additional time.
This guy is dead.
This Army veteran is father of three is dead.
Bragg's office made a plea deal with Justin Washington.
He only got a 30-day sentence after pleading guilty to a lesser charge of coercion in the rape of his own teenage relative a week before he was to be sentenced.
Washington went on an alleged sex ski uh crime spree assaulting women, what four women and one man.
Whoopsie Daisy.
That's that's what you get with defund dismantled, no bail laws, and these crazy insane uh politically motivated prosecutors.
Brown uh Bragg downgraded the charges of an armed robber with a history of violent crimes to misdemeanors, other low level offenses, and he was released was then released without bail.
And then in January, he entered a pharmacy, stole two thousand two hundred and nine dollars of product, including cold medicine.
When an employee tried to stop him, he takes out a knife and says, F you, I'm taking everything.
Now, he returned to the same store later that day to steal even more merchandise after he was arrested and charged with criminal possession of a weapon and first degree robbery.
There's the infamous bank robber, the guy that got caught on five separate banks.
Each time was let out with no bail.
He actually thanked the prosecutor for being so lenient.
The worst bank robber in the history of bank robbing.
He got caught five times.
Was it five or four?
Five?
Yeah.
Anyway, when this guy rolling was arraigned, Bragg's office downgraded all of these charges to uh, you know, petty larceny, low-level offenses.
He had a long history of violent crime, including rape, robbery, drug dealing, assault with a deadly weapon.
Bragg gave a six-month sweetheart deal to uh another guy for his role in a violent attack, who was attending a guy that was attending a pro-Israel rally in New York of May of 2021.
According to the New York Post, the guy called the victim a dirty Jew.
His words went, in other words, like a hate crime attack during the brutal gang beating and allegedly told officers I'd do it again.
He said I'd he would do it again.
Bragg told the Jewish insider that after considering the full context of conduct, he decided the plea deal was appropriate as a kind of individualized justice depending upon a person's role in the charge.
And I can keep going.
You know, he has a controversial soft on crime memo.
He said his office will not seek to incarcerate and sentence except for with homicides and a handful of other cases.
Huh?
Well, I mean, you you wonder why all of this is happening.
It's it's it's so obvious, it's transparent, it's so political.
So if this does go down, it looks like it's gonna happen, and we'll confirm with the president's attorney, Don Jr.
Also coming up today, uh, when they're on the program.
But so the president is indicted.
Remember, you can indict a ham sandwich.
And I don't say this to be insulting, but there are many people that have no idea how a grand jury works.
And it's this simple.
A grand jury, in this case, New York City is comprised of, you know, nine out of ten registered voters are liberals, the Democrats, they're socialists.
So anyway, so that's that's the pool of grand jurors that you have, not good.
Uh but the defense, for may for those of you that may not know, they don't get any opportunity to present a case or put forward evidence in a grand jury proceeding.
Defense doesn't get to say a word.
And this guy can say whatever he wants, hold back any exculpatory evidence that he may have and get the indictment.
Okay, well, at least Joe Tacopina is gonna have a chance to put on a defense.
That's something the grand jury didn't get to hear.
And it was probably a big mistake and an accident on the part of you know, the some of these people to let Bob Costello go before the grand jury.
I'll play some of that later in the program.
Anyway, the president will face all these charges, most of it related to the hundred and thirty thousand dollar payment, but we had information from Robert uh Michael Cohn's attorney that in fact uh the Trump organization Trump campaign had nothing to do with it.
That would be called exculpatory evidence.
Then you have Trump's former, I'm sorry, Michael Cohn's former legal advisor, Bob Costello.
And what did he say?
That when Michael Comb was distraught, even suicidal, that he spoke at length with him and said, if you don't want to go to jail, what do you have on Donald Trump to give them?
He did this for hours with Michael Cohn.
And he kept saying, I don't have anything on Donald Trump.
Uh and then he said, But I'll never go to jail.
And it was clear to Bob Costello, he says it, he said it on my show, that what he was saying was that I'll lie, cheat, steal, do whatever I have to do to keep myself from going to jail.
He ended up going to jail anyway.
Uh, yes, there'll be mugshots taken.
Uh, yes, we'll find out what the charges are.
Uh, after the indictment, Bragg's office will call, you know, has already called Trump's attorney.
They actually wanted Trump to uh appear today, but the Secret Service helps squash that.
Uh, is there gonna be a perp walk?
You know, Donald Trump and handcuffs just so they can embarrass and humiliate him.
There might be.
It's possible.
He's gonna have uh he's gonna be fingerprinted and he's gonna appear in a courtroom.
That's that's that's the first time this has happened in history.
Anyway, quick break.
We'll take uh your calls to uh also coming up today, and Don Jr. and the president's attorney and our legal experts, 800 941 Sean.
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Thank you for being with us.
Well, look at this.
Is is Donald Trump going to be sent to Rikers?
I mean, you've got to be kidding me.
The best dressed prisoner there.
Now, I need to confess to this audience.
I have been to Rikers Island prison.
Why are you looking at me like that?
You didn't know that?
I'm just waiting.
I mean, there's gotta be more to this story.
I I was in Rikers.
Four.
I was invited.
I'm like, I'm like, okay.
I'm like, is this one of these weird moments?
Like, did someone catch you skitching?
Like what happened?
I was invited um to speak to prisoners, part of a ministry.
Oh, I remember this.
You got in trouble.
I got in trouble.
Um such a surprise.
What a shocker.
So weird.
Now, so there was this very I'm sure this guy's a wonderful guy.
So they have a program that, you know, Christian-based program.
I don't know if it takes time off people's sentences or whatever.
Anyway, uh a guy was preaching and preaching and pre and going on forever.
So the prisoners were behind the the podium, and their families were out in just an open area in the prison.
And I'm watching the prisoners' body language.
Some of them are getting so angry that this guy won't shut up.
I mean, it is going on.
And I I'm like, I'm ready to just get up and leave.
I'm like, I'm not well, why am I wasting my time here?
And they're stomping their feet.
And when he finally finished, like two hours later, they'll they cl stood up and said, Thank God, he stopped.
And then I get called up.
And the first thing I said is, um, I I looked at I addressed the families first.
I said, would you mind if I look at the people that accomplished the program as I talked today?
Would you would that be okay with everybody?
And the people in the audience said, no, that's fine.
Because I was there to give the prisoners a message.
And first thing I said to them, guys, I get it.
I will not speak any more than five to ten minutes.
Yeah.
You know, they were like so happy.
And then I just, you know what?
It came out of me.
I felt it was the right way to communicate.
I wanted to, I I went street New York on them.
You know, you you want a uh blank and piece of peep pizza whenever you want.
Wanna be able to go to McDonald's?
Like to have a girlfriend?
Want to get a job, make money, get your own place, or do you want to come back here?
Because half of you idiots aren't gonna learn your lesson, and you'll be right back in here as soon as you get out.
You want to change your life?
Well, you're gonna need God in your life.
The word repentance, change your heart.
Uh and I I went hardcore street New York and said, you can do this or you can do this.
And then I looked at I said, it's all up to you.
I said, if you have bad, if you're going back to the area where you were, you're gonna hang out with the same old friends that got you into trouble in the first place, and the same old friends and family members, even, maybe even some people here, that are that enable you to be in trouble, then you're not gonna change your life.
Because if those are the people that get you in trouble, move the hell away.
Live in a closet somewhere if you have to.
And and if you have to work two full time jobs, you know, a minimum wage getting started, then go work two full time jobs, minimum wage, get started.
Somebody will hire you if you work cheap enough.
You know, if you work for minimum wage, whatever it is.
And then, you know what?
You'll begin to build back your life.
If you have drug and alcohol issues, which so many people in prison do.
I urge you to go and get free help.
Alcoholics Anonymous is free.
Narco and what do you call the narcotics anonymous?
That's free.
I think there's a group.
I don't know what it's called.
And then I said, the choice is up to you.
And if you want to be blanking idiots, go ahead.
Be an idiot and stay in here and say hi to Bubba every day instead of saying hi to Susie or Diane or Linda, you know.
Whoever you want to say hello to.
I hear Bubba changed a lot over the years, though.
He's really come a long way.
Yeah, I don't know.
Anyway, but this is ridiculous, this whole that whole thing.
Having a speaker of the House.
No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove their innocence.
She was what, second in line to be president.
If anything, God forbid happens to the president, we know the vice president becomes president.
Something happens to the president and vice president, speaker of the House becomes president.
No, I I went to a different school.
My school taught me that uh you're innocent until being proven guilty.
But, you know, this is the era of Trump.
The same woman who said we got to pass the bill to find out what's in it.
I mean, she just lives in a backwards upside.
I never thought she could outdo that.
That statement she outdid it today.
Uh anyway, so the uh actual charges, you know, I just gave you a tip of what they are.
Anyway, the long-debated theory in Bragg's office was whether or not they could effectively allege a violation of federal election law, even though the Justice Department, and I had the former head of the FEC on my TV show, declined the charges.
And notably Bragg's predecessor declined to bring those charges.
And notably Mueller declined, and notably the DOJ declined.
The FEC declined.
Uh, and even Bragg initially declined, and then this guy Pomerance, whoever the hell he is, uh, he writes a book, Jonathan Turley.
I I kind of agree with him on what he learned about the investigation, which was still ongoing.
And that's not exactly um, well, I'll use Turley's words.
A lot of people view it as breathtakingly unprofessional, and that Bragg caved.
That's his theory.
And they largely ignore that the misdemeanor, statute of limitations have run out, and a lot of people have declared that this unprecedented use of New York law would fit as perfectly leave legal and commendable, despite it the fact that it's never happened before, and then turn it into, you know, this this federal crime, is which is what they're trying to do.
That's why we call this novel um the legal theory that's never been used.
Only, you know, the criminalizing basically a non-disclosure agreement.
It's it's a whole thing is insane.
Every single bit of it.
Uh Trump's lawyers are gonna likely press for Bragg's indictment uh to be dismissed.
Now look, there are legal grounds.
If I the some of the things I would look for right off the top, change of venue, motion to dismiss for a lot of different reasons.
Uh I think they'll argue that this is based on a faulty legal theory, as we were just talking about, arguing that a mere misrepresentation on a government document, a recording of a payment uh as a legal expense is by itself itself criminal.
And by the way, according to Joe Tacopina, the president's lawyer who will join us today, and Don Jr. will join us today, and our legal team will join us today.
Anyway, is by itself criminal, that you know, that it becomes a felony simple simply because the purpose may have been to violate a federal, not state campaign statute, but use the state statute uh the state statute that is you know long past the statute of limitations, as is the federal one.
Trump's lawyers will argue that you know this is insane.
They're basically writing the law as you go along.
I also think that they will argue the charges are barred by the statute of limitations.
That will be a big argument.
Change of venue should be a big fight.
I don't think they're going to win any of them because it's New York City.
And if you're in New York City and you're a Republican and your last name's Trump, you know what?
It's not going to work out well for you.
Third, perhaps more importantly, the lawyers will seek a dismissal based upon the argument of prosecutorial misconduct and a specially selective prosecution.
Well, that would go right to the heart of something we've discussed on this program, and that is Alvin Bragg running to go after one man, one organization, and one family, because that's exactly what he did.
Never mind that Joe Biden's approval ratings are just tanking day by day by day.
It's just not going very well for them in any any way, shape, manner, or form.
So I went through what the president will go through next week.
He will be arraigned.
He will be, you know, the full indictment.
He will be read as Miranda Rights.
He will be there will be a mug shot.
Pete Heggset said something last night, and I thought he's right on the money.
I bet you that mugshot goes viral and there's going to be t-shirts and sweatshirts and and baseball caps and other hats.
That you know, it's gonna increase his popularity.
Now I did ask in my interview with President Trump, do you think this all this helps you or hurts you?
He said I I I can't tell.
I don't really know.
Not thinking of it in that term.
Um, and nor should he, I guess, at that point.
But can I ask a question?
How do you feel now?
Like, what's the next step?
And I mean this seriously, I'm asking.
For the GOP.
You know, I mean, where is everybody has to their credit?
Ron DeSantis said, and God bless him for saying this.
No, I mean the House.
Oh, okay.
Well, you mean the House of Representative.
Let me finish your thought, but I'm saying, like, people who can actually do something like DeSantis, you know, Vivek.
The only one that could really do something is DeSantis, and that he said he will not be involved in in what's extraditing the president to New York.
He's gonna have no part of it.
He said this is un-American.
Now, you know what?
After Trump has hit him so hard, uh, kind of makes me admire.
I've always liked DeSantis.
Well, DeSantis is very rule of law, and to him, rule of law is above anything that's personal.
Yeah, I look, do I I do I wish they got along well?
Yeah, I do.
I think that they do.
I just think that at the end of the day, you know, they're in the middle of this.
It's eventually always gonna get there, but you know, anyway.
Uh the Justice Department is reportedly irritated.
Did I miss something you wanted to say?
What?
Oh my God, did you hear me?
I could see I read your face.
I just hit the Katie.
I was like, well, that wasn't my question.
All right, what's your point?
I was like, it was like a what's your question?
I've a lot of news to get to.
I'm sorry.
No, my question was, you know, we've got comer, we've got, you know, Jim Jordan, we've got Kevin McCarthy.
They're all doing their best, right?
So what I'm getting a lot from our audience, you know, both from Hannity.com and here quo in the studio is like, what can we do to uphold the rule of law?
Because the the age old question, and we've talked about this to death, is Hillary doesn't go to jail, Comey wipes it clean, Hunter's doing all anything that can be done illegally, Hunter is or has done.
Joe Biden has done the same.
It's the Biden crime family syndicate.
Like, what can we do?
You know, Trump is literally getting put, you know, across the barrel.
You're on a trumped up charge, pun intended.
Uh, pun intended.
The answer is really, he has to win in court.
Uh or I my guess is they they they would throw the book at him.
Pun intended, trumped up charges.
Like it's a misdemeanor with every party to the quote unquote crime saying it's not a crime or they didn't do it.
If the law is followed, this case is thrown out.
If the law is followed.
It's like, for example, I read the entire phone call with Georgia.
President talked about very specific areas that he felt that they neglected investigating.
Like, for example, he didn't care about Copp County and signature verification.
He wanted that in Fulton County.
That's a very big difference politically for a Republican.
Uh he talked about 18,000 and some odd um votes uh with address issues.
He talked about uh how he believed at it all together it was hundreds of thousands of votes, and they took out one line in what was, you know, it took me an hour and a half to read the document, or two hours even.
You know, they take out one line.
We're only looking for eleven thousand blah, blah, blah number.
And they said like that was his whole thing, and it was not.
You have to look at it in context.
That's not going to stop a grand jury from indictment in Georgia.
And God knows what the special counsel is up to.
I have no idea.
Supposed to be about J6, it's supposed to be about documents.
But let me let me finish this part here.
Um, the Justice Department is apparently irritated over Bragg's case, and they fear that Bragg's decision to proceed is going to undermine future prosecutions if the New York case collapses or ends in acquittal.
How many times are they going to be able to go after Trump?
And that is the Russia hoax, the Muller hoax, the two impeachments, and now an indictment.
Let's say he he let's say he is acquitted.
How many more times they're going to keep trying?
You know, show me the crime and I'll, you know, show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
The president said this is a political persecution and election interference at the highest level.
Now that's an interesting comment about election interference because he's running for president.
He's the leading candidate in the polls at this moment.
So uh this certainly doesn't help his presidential aspirations, at least on paper in a general election.
Some will say his poll numbers are gonna skyrocket.
We'll see in the days to come.
I think it actually may be to the truth.
And I think honest Americans, he pointed out since the day he came down that golden escalator at Trump Tower, before he was even sworn in, the radical left Democrats, the enemy of hard working men and women of this country have been engaged in a witch hunt to destroy the Make America Great Again movement.
You remember like I do, Russia, Russia, Russia, the Muller hoax, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, impeachment hoax one, impeachment hoax two, illegal, unconstitutional raid at Mar-a-Lago.
Um the Democrats have lied, cheated, stolen in their obsession with trying to get Trump, which is Alan Dershowitz's new book, it's a good book.
But now they've done the unthinkable, indicting a completely innocent person uh in an act of blatant election interference.
No, we've had we the FAI interfered in 2016, right?
They couldn't pay Christopher Steele, but they still used the dirty dossier to get the FISA application that Comey signed three three of the four.
They couldn't have any verification, says verified.
It was unverifiable.
And by the way, Bragg wanted to arrate arrest Trump today.
Trump said no.
Anyway, they expect 34 counts.
I agree with the president.
He said he can't get a fair trial in New York.
Um, and Joe Tacopina, his lawyer, will join us when we come back.
And then we'll check in with Don Jr.
Then we'll check in with our legal uh experts and get their take on all of this.
And your calls 800-941 Sean Hannity tonight, nine Eastern, Laura Trump, and Joe Tacopina.
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