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Uh, but anyway, um, so I have a this letter in my hand, and it's from McDermott, Will and Emory, and it is on behalf of Michael Cohn, and it is sent to the Federal Elections Commission and a gentleman named Mr. Jordan, not Jim Jordan.
Uh, and that's the I believe it's Jeff Jordan who was there at the time.
This is this is dated February 8th, 2018.
Again, to the Federal Elections Commission, Office of Complaint Examination and Legal Administration, and they give it to the attention of Christel Dennis, a paralegal.
And this is what it says, I want to pay very close attention to what I'm reading here.
This is from February 8th, 2018.
Dear Mr. Jordan, I am writing on behalf of my client, Michael D. Cohn, in response to your letter dated January 30th, 2018.
Now, specifically, this letter responds to the complaint numbered MUR7313, which was filed with the FEC, the Federal Election Commission, by Common Cause and Paul S. Ryan.
Now, in a private transaction in 2016, before the U.S. presidential election, Mr. Cohn used his own personal funds to facilitate a payment of 130,000 to Miss Stephanie Clifford.
Neither the Trump organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Miss Clifford, and neither reimbursed Mr. Cohn for the payment directly or indirectly.
And contrary to the allegations in the complaint, which are entitled which are entirely speculative, neither Mr. Cohn nor Essential Consultants LLC made any in-kind contributions to Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., or any other presidential campaign committee.
Mr. Cohn has not been a government employee during any of the relevant time period.
The payment in question does not constitute a campaign contribution or expenditure, and therefore the FEC lacks jurisdiction over this matter.
The complaint's uh have not and cannot present any evidence to the Contrary.
Accordingly, the complaint should be dismissed.
Please contact me at your earliest convenience.
Stephen M. Ryan, counsel for Michael Cohn.
It's pretty exculpatory.
Now that's by tonight, this is all going to be out there.
Some fascinating developments today, and I can't give you the reason why.
I don't know the full reason why, but it certainly is very, very strange and very odd on a lot of different levels.
And for some reason, the grand jury was supposed to hear from their final witness today at 2 p.m., only a short time ago, a couple hours ago, that they canceled the grand jury hearing today.
Those proceedings were canceled amid, quote, major dissension in the DA's office, sources now telling Fox News.
I'm reading from Fox News.com.
Anyway, Manhattan DA, Alvin Bragg's office, has canceled the grand jury meeting that was scheduled to take place Wednesday as part of the investigation into former President Trump amid speculation of a possible indictment.
Two sources familiar telling Fox News.
The grand jury was slated to meet Wednesday and was expected to hear from at least one additional witness, but Fox News has learned that Bragg's office canceled the proceedings.
The grand jury was notified Wednesday morning and was placed on standby for Thursday, according to again the report and a source to Fox News.
We can't confirm or comment on grand jury matters according to Bragg's office.
Two sources familiar told Fox News Digital, Fox News.com, that means on Wednesday that the grand jury was canceled amid major dissension within the DA's office.
One source claiming that the DA is having trouble convincing the grand jury on potential charges due to the weakness of this case.
Now remember, put aside the statute of limitations that was articulated in a column by Jonathan Turley, put all of that aside.
You know, put aside by the way, statute of limitations actually matter, or the idea that they're taking what is a misdemeanor.
Now remember, this is an office that takes 52% of felony charges and reduces them to misdemeanors.
Put aside the fact that Bragg loses when he when he does have a trial uh on felony charges, he's lost 49% of the time.
I mean, that is a spectacular fail for any grand jury.
You know, never mind all the cases I went through yesterday, you know, where he's reducing sentences to next to nothing for murderers.
He's letting out people that you know have 40 past arrests for for you know major uh violent incidences, you know, put aside the fact that he ran on a platform to go after one man, one family, one company, and that was Donald J. Trump.
Uh put aside all of that.
Um who could be surprised here?
Now I'm gonna play in a second.
Uh Bob Costello, who was on our show last night.
What and Alan Dershowitz was on later.
Alan Dershuit says that's it, this is game over.
Because you have in the case of Michael Cohn, we went over this yesterday.
Michael Cohn does not particularly have uh the best track record in life at all in any way, any shape, any manner, any form.
And Michael Cohn, we now know is convicted.
Um I'll even use the Southern District of New York when they announced he made a plea deal, but he pled guilty to charges of tax evasion, making false statements.
Okay, that is supposed to be their star witness.
He is an admitted convicted liar.
That's all there is to it.
Um how is his credibility gonna transcend that of Bob Costello, who happens to have an incredible um track record.
Um, we're now finding out that other people, I I don't want to disclose sources of mine, but I I do know the names of people that have gone in, and I just think I should respect their privacy according to sources that I have.
Uh Kellyanne, I didn't know I did not know Kellyanne went on in until what yesterday.
No, the day before yesterday, she uh I found out, and she told her story.
Her story was very compelling last night.
Um I'm gonna get to all that in a second.
But now think about this.
If you believe in law, and if you believe in equal justice under the law, and you believe in equal application of our laws, in other words, all laws, fundamentally, their foundational is the U.S. Constitution.
If you believe in equal justice, you don't run like the AG in New York has run, ran out of campaign to get Donald Trump.
And she has pursued and fulfilled her promise.
And the same thing we found a cut of Alvin Bragg promising to investigate Donald Trump when he was running for Manhattan DA.
Now, again, according to all these sources, Soros funded candidate.
And you know, this is a lot of money that is being thrown around by hardcore leftists that want nothing but chaos in society.
They're the ones that support no bail laws.
They're the ones that support defund dismantle insanity.
Anyway, this is Alvin Bragg, the candidate.
This is before the election.
This is what he said on in a radio interview on a New York radio station called Hot 97.
Listen.
Are they going to convict Donald Trump?
Look, that that that is uh the number one issue.
I'm the candidate in the race who has the experience with with Donald Trump.
I was the chief deputy in the attorney general's office.
We sued the Trump administration over a hundred times.
I'd be hard to argue with the fact that that's that'd be the most important uh most high profile case.
Uh and I've seen him up front and seen the lawlessness that he can do.
And you believe it should happen.
I yeah, I I believe we have to hold him accountable.
I believe that, yes.
So he's he's running a lot like the attorney general to get one man, one family, one company, one corporation.
I mean, it's unreal.
Now, here's where the remember, Michael Cohn is their star witness.
So last night on Hannity, Bob Costello, now he was in the grand jury room on Monday, and he was very clear, like Kellyanne was clear, that Bragg obviously did not want them talking about certain topics, but they felt uh compelled to tell the whole truth and not just answer give short answers.
And they looked at the jury and told the jury the truth.
When you go under oath, somebody's a yes or no question.
I'm like, did you kill that person?
Did you pull the trigger?
Yes.
That's it.
Case closed.
Yes, but he was about to shoot me first, and he had a gun pointed at my head, and I had to defend myself.
In other words, you got to give context and texture to answers.
And a lot of times it's way more nuanced than did you fire that weapon and shoot that person?
Yes.
Okay, guilty, Your Honor.
Case closed.
That's not how it works.
Now, in a grand jury, you can indict a uh hands ham sandwiches, they say.
You know, show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
And the reason is is the defense gets no say in a grand jury room.
So the idea that Bob Costello, he reached out to based on Michael Cohn appearances on television and what Michael Cohn was saying, because his conscience was like, that's not the tree.
He he said he did not believe that Michael Cohn was telling the truth, and he wanted the grand jury to hear the whole truth.
Here's part of what he said.
Bob, did he tell you specifically he did this on his own without Donald Trump's knowledge?
Well, he here's what he did.
He said he did this on his own.
He didn't mention Donald Trump's name.
He said there was a problem.
Stormy Daniels' lawyer or representative got in touch with him.
He worked out a negotiated deal, got an NDA, a non-disclosure agreement, 130,000.
I asked him.
I said, is that Donald Trump's money?
No.
Did you get that from any Trump organization?
No.
Is that your money?
Did you take it out of one of your accounts?
No.
I said, where did you get the money from?
He said, I took out a HELOC loan.
I said, why would you do that?
He said, because I wanted everything to be secret.
I didn't want my own wife to know about this.
I didn't want Melania to know about this.
That's what he said.
He said if he had taken 130,000 out of his one of his accounts, his wife would have been pumping him for information that he didn't want to give to anybody.
And I said, Michael, think about this.
Don't answer it quickly.
You this is you said that you are were up on the roof, ready to jump.
And I'm telling you that there is a way out of this if you have information.
It has to be true.
What do you have on Donald Trump?
And that's when he started with the same litany that he root used for the rest of the two hours.
I swear to God, Bob, I don't have anything on Donald Trump.
I said I said, any information on the Trump organization?
The only thing I know, said he, is that some money was missing from the Trump inaugural uh ball or something like that.
And I said, Is Donald Trump involved in that?
No.
Does Donald Trump know about that?
He said, No, he didn't know about it then.
I don't even think he knows about it now.
But the point is when somebody is is really thinking of committing suicide, and you're offering them a legal way out of this.
If he had any information about Donald Trump, that would have been the one time, even for a serial liar like Michael Cohn to fess up and say, Well, I know this or that, because I'm I want to save my own hide.
But he didn't do that.
And the statement he gave us was very similar to that statement that you just read.
That is exculpatory.
That now you have his testimony directly contradicting Michael Cohn's testimony, uh, and the grand jury got to hear both.
Now, if you if you're fair-minded in any way, and then when you if you bring this into a a real courtroom where you have rules of evidence, and you can't have hearsay, and every detail is told, and the defense gets to put up a defense, something they don't get to do in a grand jury, uh, it becomes a whole different ball game.
Uh, this this is not a good day for the DA in New York.
I would I would advise you.
I was at one point, uh, this is definitely gonna happen.
After the weekend, I was I'm down to 72% and going down fast.
Uh I would say the odds are sinking by the minute.
I mean, this is devastating.
I'm I'm gonna wait till after the news at the bottom of the hour because I don't want to interrupt this, but you got Michael Cohn's former legal advisor saying Cohn has zero solid evidence.
You got this letter from the uh to the FEC from Michael Cohn's attorney that is about as exculpatory as I think you can ever have.
That my, you know, I'm not a professional lawyer, but I read it, I'm like, wow.
Contrary to allegations in this complaint, which are entirely speculative, neither Mr. Cohn nor Essential Consultants LLC made any in-kind contributions to Donald J. Trump for president or any presidential campaign committee.
Mr. Cohn has not been a government employee during any of the relevant time period.
The payment in question does not constitute a campaign contribution or expenditure.
Therefore, the FEC lacks jurisdiction.
And that in fact it was Michael Cohn and uh on a private transaction he made, and Michael Cohn used his own personal funds to facilitate a payment of 130,000 to Miss Stephanie Clifford.
Neither the Trump organization nor the Trump campaign was a part of the transaction with Miss Clifford, and neither reimbursed Mr. Cohn for the payment directly or indirectly.
Okay.
Tell me tell me what the case is then.
You know, and the sad thing is they so hate this man, is that they're not gonna stop.
You know, you've got, let's see, Fulton County, Georgia.
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Bob Costello went before the grand jury.
Now, if you're just joining us, the grand jury was scheduled to convene in New York today at 2 p.m.
They canceled it.
No reason given.
Very odd, very strange.
Now, I'm I'm not conspiratorial.
Maybe they had a witness that got sick, or maybe a witness that got cold feet.
I don't know.
But uh they're scheduled, I think, to reconvene.
That what I read is tomorrow.
Uh the reports are Fox News.com, Fox Fox Digital reporting, that in fact that there's chaos in Alvin Bragg's office.
There's gotta be some people in there that realize that this is going to be a fiasco for them, especially in light of Bob Costello last night and now this exculpatory letter from the F uh uh from the FEC that was sent by Michael Cohn's attorney.
This is not gonna bode well.
Now, I want you we'll go over Bob Costello.
He was called in on Monday.
What he said and what Kellyanne Conway said last night, she was called into the grand jury.
I had no idea.
And anyway, for the first time she spoke out, and Bob Costello now, I am told, has somehow been warned by somebody someplace not to talk anymore.
So thank God we got this interview when we did.
Because as Alan Dershowitz suggested, and I agree with Professor Dershowitz, by the way, find out the name of his new book.
This new book I want to read, because he talks about all four issues that they're going after Trump on.
One is the New York case, the Stormy case, the other is you know, the phone call in Atlanta.
Uh, then you got the special counsel, I guess, investigating a number of things, not the least of which is the classified documents issue and the January 6th issue.
I mean, they it's clear that our justice system has been weaponized.
This is a scary time for this country.
I don't want any Republican, any Republican district attorney, any Republican DA going after somebody just because of what their politics happened to be.
If they broke the law, that's one thing.
But this is so personal.
I mean, you know, look at the Muller by the numbers.
22 months, 674 days.
25 plus million dollars to you costing you the American taxpayer.
40 FBI agents, intelligence analysts, forensic accountant accountants, other professional staff, 19 attorneys, 2,800 subpoenas, 500 search warrants, 230 orders of communication records, 500 witnesses, 13 requests to foreign governments for evidence.
And meanwhile, we now know that the FBI in early October in 2016 went to meet Christopher Steele.
Not only did they go to meet him, they offered him a million dollars if he could corroborate the dossier.
He never collected his million because he couldn't corroborate it.
In January of 2017, they still had two more FISA applications.
The bulk of information was that dirty, bought-and-paid-for Hillary Clinton dossier, which even Bruce Ohr warned them that it was a political document.
And, you know, but no prosecutor would prosecute.
I mean, it's amazing.
The FBA, they used unverifiable information at the top of a Pfizer warrant that says verified.
You know, no prosecutor would prosecute.
Let me see, deleting 33,000 emails with something nobody had ever heard of called bleach pit and beating up Blackberries and iPhones with hammers and removing SIM cards?
You've got to be kidding me.
Is that not a classic case of obstruction?
Top secret classified information.
By the way, have we heard a peep out of the special counsel investigating Joe Biden on classified documents?
You know, where are we?
Where are the Democrats?
How much money did the Biden family do in business with China?
You know, how much money did they do in business with Russia?
How you know Joe Biden is bragging on tape that he was going to withhold a billion taxpayer dollars unless they fire a Ukrainian prosecutor, who we now know was investigating his son zero experience hunter.
How do we know he has zero experience?
Because he went on good morning America, and he said he had no experience in Ukraine, oil, gas, coal, energy, but yet they're paying him a fortune.
You know, why are Russian oligarchs investing, you know, Hunter Biden, everybody knew that he was a crack addict at that point in his life.
Everybody knew his propensity for hookers at that point in his life.
Guy was a total complete mess.
Why would China be doing a billion five deal with the Bank of China?
Like, how much of that was profit?
How many deals did they do?
When are we gonna get the answers to these questions?
Did they really get a five million dollar loan from China with no interest and forgivable?
Anybody out there listening to me, you want five million dollars?
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What is forgivable mean?
You don't have to pay it back.
That's what forgivable sounds like to me.
Um, or you know, any of the other cases, you know, sports cars and foreign nationals, spending sprees.
When are we going to get to the bottom of all of this?
No, this is the dual system of justice.
This is a this is a dual system of justice.
Uh anyway, Derschwitz's new book is out.
It's called Get Trump, and it deals with all of these investigations.
He said last night, and he debunks all of them and says it's awful.
He calls it the subtitle is the threat to civil liberties due process and our constitutional rule of law.
This is not hyperbole.
This is what a dual justice system looks like.
This is what criminalizing political differences looks like.
This is what it means when you have attorney general candidates and DA candidates campaign on getting one man, one corporation, one family.
Because that's what's happening.
Now, so the star witness for the Manhattan DA, Alvin Bragg, is Michael Cohn.
I went through just moments ago.
Michael Cohn pled guilty uh to charges of tax evasion of evasion, making false statements.
Now the grand jury is not hearing about all of this, but uh I will tell you this in a court of law, we have rules of evidence.
Oh, I could I promise you Joe Tacopina is gonna bring it up and bring it up often.
Anyway, making false statements.
Uh the plea was entered, blah, blah, blah.
Cohn concealed uh more than four million of personal income from the IRS, made false statements.
There's two false statements.
Accounts to a federally uh insured uh uh institution, financial institution, uh in connection with the five hundred thousand dollar home equity loan, blah, blah, blah.
That's from the Southern District of New York.
And he had a lot of jail time, but they ended up, I guess, because of COVID, they let him out pretty early.
I guess he kind of in that sense locked out.
Now, listen to Robert Costello and what he says and how it contradicts everything Michael Cohn saying.
Like, listen.
Because what you were telling them directly contradicted what they had heard from Michael Cohn.
So I would imagine you caught their attention.
Oh, yeah.
Uh I caught their attention in a number of ways because uh I went in there to act as basically a neutral witness telling the truth.
Uh and the DA's office knew the exculpatory information I was going to give, but the questions I was being asked would not have elicited that information.
It became clear to me that they weren't going to cover the information that I was there to give.
So I started volunteering in my answers, well beyond the questions.
And I watched the jurors sit there, and as you might imagine, there were 21 of them there that day.
Probably five or six would not be nodding their head unconsciously up and down when I would be making the points.
Bob, did he tell you specifically he did this on his own without Donald Trump's knowledge?
Well, he here's what he did.
He said he did this on his own.
He didn't mention Donald Trump's name.
He said there was a problem.
Stormy Daniels' lawyer or representative got in touch with him.
He worked out a negotiated deal, got an NDA, a non-disclosure agreement, 130,000.
I asked him.
I said, Is that Donald Trump's money?
No.
Uh, did you get that from any Trump organization?
No.
Is that your money?
Did you take it out of one of your accounts?
No.
I said, Where did you get the money from?
He said, I took out a HELOC loan.
I said, Why would you do that?
He said, Because I wanted everything to be secret.
I didn't want my own wife to know about this.
I didn't want Melania to know about this.
That's what he said.
He said, if he had taken 130,000 out of his one of his accounts, his wife would have been pumping him for information that he didn't want to give to anybody.
And I said, Michael, think about this.
Don't answer it quickly.
You this is you said that you are were up on the roof, ready to jump, and I'm telling you that there is a way out of this if you have information.
It has to be true.
What do you have on Donald Trump?
And that's when he started with the same litany that he root used for the rest of the two hours.
I swear to God, Bob, I don't have anything on Donald Trump.
I said, Do you have I said any information on the Trump organization?
The only thing I know, said he, is that some money was missing from the Trump inaugural uh ball or something like that.
And I said, Is Donald Trump involved in that?
No.
Does Donald Trump know about that?
He said, No, he didn't know about it then.
I don't even think he knows about it now.
But the point is when somebody is is really thinking of committing suicide, and you're offering them a legal way out of this.
If he had any information about Donald Trump, that would have been the one time, even for a serial liar like Michael Cohn, to fess up and say, Well, I know this or that, because I'm I want to save my own hide.
But he didn't do that.
And the statement he gave us was very similar to that statement that you just read.
And I especially made one point.
I pointed out to them that during that first two-hour meeting, Michael Cohn, who, as I said before, was pacing back and forth, would suddenly stop in the middle of whatever he was talking about and turn and point his finger at us and say, I want you guys to understand I will do whatever the F I have to do.
I will never spend a day in jail.
He said that at least 10 to 20 times during that two-hour period.
It was it was a bizarre mantra, but it made it clear to us that Michael Cohn was saying, I will lie, cheat, steal, shoot someone.
I will never spend a day in jail.
Well, what happened?
He did spend more than a day in jail.
And who does he blame?
Not himself, even though counts one through seven related to times that uh before he even met Donald Trump.
Amazing Donald Trump.
Amazing.
That was last night.
All right.
Now uh we have Joe Tagapina on tonight.
We have a lot tonight on Hannity.
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So all of this, what is this?
What is Robert Costello doing here?
He's contradicting the star witness of Bragg.
What is this letter to the FEC doing to this case?
It's blowing it up, you know, step by step.
Um, and by the way, it should be.
This, you know, for for a prosecutor with the most atrocious record ever, you know, of any prosecutor in the country.
This this should not be happening in this country, but sadly, it is happening in the country.
And this is what we mean when we talk about a dual justice system.
This is what we mean when we talk about uh equ equal application of our laws.
You know, I'm gonna tell you something, and I'm I'm just gonna be very blunt about it.
We are we have now weaponized justice based on political party in the country.
If you're if you're a liberal, you get one system of justice.
If you're a conservative, you get a whole other system.
I've said this a little tongue in cheek, but it's true.
If you're a conservative, you're gonna get arrested for spitting on the sidewalk and jaywalking.
They'll indict you, Alan Dershwist.
This Trump indictment would be targeted injustice.
Great line.
You know, the indictment, uh, this is Greg Jarrett.
Show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
That was Joseph Stalin's ruthless secret police.
Well, they you have people campaigning to go after one man, one company, one family.
I mean, there's something wrong with that.
Never mind that the statute of limitations has expired, and both the New York state law and the federal law.
I mean, this is a bad case on shaky legal and ethical ground in every single way.
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