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All right, folks, welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show.
This is Jordan Sekulov here with my dad as well, Jay Seculo.
We head up the American Center for Law and Justice.
Some of you know us from the work during the impeachment from the Mueller investigation.
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We appreciate Sean letting us co-host the broadcast today.
Yeah, we got Rebecca Koffler joining us.
She's got tremendous insight.
A brand new book coming up, too, Zelensky, the unlikely Ukrainian hero.
As Jordan said earlier, former DIA intelligence officer and the author of Putin's playbook, Russia's Secret Plan to Defeat America.
Rebecca, I want to get your sense first of where you see the situation with Ukraine and Russia right now.
They're talking about this major offensive that could be taking place any day now.
What's your sense of it?
Sure.
Hi, Jay.
Hi, Jordan.
This war is essentially unwinnable because the definitions of victory that each side has chosen, and there are three sides to this conflict.
There's Russia and Vladimir Putin.
There's Ukraine and Volodymyr Zelensky.
And then there's us, the United States and the Biden administration, who have defined our goal as to weaken Russia militarily and economically so that Putin doesn't do that again.
And the definition of victory by Zelensky is to expel the Russians from the entire Ukraine, which includes the four annexed territories plus Crimea.
And that is just simply unfeasible based on my intelligence analysis.
And so this is going to be a protracted war.
Putin is getting ready for it.
We are getting ready for it because we are pumping a tremendous amount of very high-tech weaponry into Ukraine.
So there's going to be a bloodbath in 2023.
We've heard a lot about Nord Stream too.
It's back in the news yet again.
The Russians are blaming the United States directly.
I want to play this from President Biden earlier.
This was before Ukraine was invaded by Russia.
Take a listen.
Mr. President, I have wanted to ask you about this Nord Stream project that you've long opposed.
You didn't mention it just now by name, nor did Champsurch.
Did you receive assurances from Chancellor Schultz today that Germany will, in fact, pull the plug on this project if Russia invades Ukraine?
And did you discuss what the definition of invasion could be?
If Germany, if Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2.
We will bring an end to it.
But how will you do that exactly, since the project and control of the project is within Germany's control?
We will, I promise you, we'll be able to do that.
We know, Rebecca, the Germans didn't want to bring it into it.
We know that there was an explosion and it's not functioning now.
The U.S. position and the NATO position has been this was an act of self-sabotage.
But when the Russians play soundbites like that, which I'm sure they do to their domestic audience who they're trying to keep involved and somehow engage in this war of aggression against Ukraine, and they hear the U.S. president say, we're going to destroy it if they do what they did.
They have invaded.
They have sent the tanks.
They have sent the troops.
What's your reaction to how this will play out, especially in Russia?
Will this affect the Russian populace, maybe say, you know what?
At first we didn't like this war, but they're starting to target us.
Right.
So, well, the Russians are, for the most part, behind Putin, war or no war.
His approval rating is between 75 to 78 percent.
President Biden or truly any Western president can only dream of that approval rating.
And that's just because Russian is a different culture.
You know, they prefer a very strong leader bordering on, you know, a dictator, which pretty much every single leader, with the exception of positive Gorbachev, has been.
And so, yes, you're absolutely correct.
We, unfortunately, and specifically President Biden and most of his security team members, have given excellent talking points and an excellent narrative for Russian propaganda.
President Biden probably regrets at this point that he was so strong in his assurances that Nord Stream would be gone.
I mean, my intelligence assessment is that Russia is the one that is behind conducting this industrial sabotage, right?
I've written my intelligence analysis, the unclassified one, on the Fox News website.
It's called Five Reasons Why Russia is Likely Behind the Nord Stream Industrial Sabotage.
And so anyone can go check it out.
But briefly, basically, Putin has the motivation.
Russia has the doctrine that was specifically developed for similar scenarios.
The Russian military strategists have spent quite significant intellectual firepower pondering about similar scenarios.
And finally, basically, there was no use.
This was a freebie for Putin.
Neither pipeline, neither Notion 1 nor 2 was revenue producing.
So there was no cost to Putin to conduct this.
And there was all the benefit.
And so, yes, the Russian people will galvanize even more behind Putin to continue this war of attrition.
One of the things I want to ask you, Rebecca, is because, and you were in the Defense Intelligence Agency as an officer there, we're getting a lot of conflicting news stories coming out about what's really going on there.
If you were giving an analysis and a recommendation on what the U.S. situation and posture should be as it relates to the Russia-Ukraine conflict, what would you say that should be?
Okay, so as you said, I'm a former intelligence officer specifically.
I was the top officer at DIA for Russian Doctrine and Strategy.
Okay, as intelligence people, we do not prescribe policy.
It's against the rules.
It's against the law for us.
So my first question, typically when, and I believe the Pentagon, the White House, combatant commands, NATO.
So when we ask that question, we typically say, what is it that you're trying to achieve?
What's your mission?
And if the mission is to end this war, then the policy that the Biden administration is pursuing, which is devoid of any kind of strategy, right?
We just schizophrenically keep throwing in weaponry to Ukraine, which started off as night vision goggles and, you know, the blankets.
Right now is all the way into the strategic realm.
We've provided javelins, we've provided stingers, we've provided bread, providing, we've signed up rather to provide Bradley, which is tank killers effectively, Abrams, and now Zelensky is asking for F-16.
And it seems like nobody in the Biden administration can resist this man.
He's a very, very skillful politician.
He's very, very smart.
And so we have no exit strategy.
We just react.
We constantly react.
By the way, we've had 10 years worth of intelligence indicating to us what Putin was going to do, and yet no one bothered to develop the deterrence strategy.
And so at this point, the war is just escalating again.
Putin launched the counteroffensive that everybody is talking about that's supposed to happen on the 24th, which would be the anniversary.
It's actually already begun while we were all focusing on what everybody's calling the spy balloon, which is effectively an intelligence collection device.
So the Russians launched their offensive already, and the Ukrainians, unfortunately, are lacking weaponry right now because although we have approved close to $100 billion, which is half of Ukraine's GDP for 2021, imagine that.
Some of that weaponry, most of that weaponry, especially the recent one, is still in the pipeline.
It's not there.
It's not on the battlefield.
And so Ukrainians are right now at a disadvantage.
And Putin knows that, and he is going to ratchet up escalation before that weaponry arrives to Ukraine.
Rebecca Coffler, she's the, again, president of Doctrine and Strategy Consulting, a former DIA intelligence officer.
She got a book out, Putin's playbook, Russia's Secret Plan to Defeat America.
She also has a new piece up at Fox News, The Five Reasons Why Russia is Probably the State that has orchestrated the Nord Stream to attack.
I think we learned from Becca, there's no strategy to end this conflict.
And that is what is upsetting to so many Americans.
I'm sure plenty of Ukrainians and some Russians too and a lot of Europeans.
We really appreciate Rebecca.
Thanks for being with us.
We appreciate you coming on Hannity.
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I want to go back and talk about exactly what we're dealing with on so many issues.
We've just had the conversation with Rebecca on Ukraine and Russia.
We've had our military analyst, Colonel West Smith, on our broadcast talk about where it's going.
This is a mess.
We've done work.
Look, we've done legal work throughout Russia on religious freedom for two decades.
Of course, now you got a conflict going, so that's not happening.
But we've taken Russia to the European Court of Human Rights before.
We did an impeachment where Jordan and I were the defense lawyers for President Trump, where people forget the whole basis of the impeachment was Ukraine and lethal weapons.
Donald Trump, the first president that gave lethal weapons to Ukraine.
But something Rebecca said at the end, Jordan, that is, you got to be concerned.
We have given half of the GDP of Ukraine in military aid, and she basically said there is no end in sight, and 2023 is going to be a very difficult year in this conflict.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, and when you look at, again, the fact that we're going to be at the year anniversary and we've now said we're about to, you know, we're going to send over tanks and the fact that those tanks won't even be ready for months and then his F-16s wouldn't be ready for a year.
That's the way Ukrainians and Russians are thinking about this conflict is there's going to be war in Europe for at least another year.
I mean, that is something, again, it affects all of us too here at home.
The economy, the economy, the depletion of our own military resources, which you know the Chinese and the Iranians love.
Oh, there.
And the Russians.
Of course, because, well, this is one of their goals.
We get so distracted with the conflict in Eastern Europe that our own national security interests take second place.
So the Chinese can float a spy balloon throughout the entire United States, the entire United States.
We shoot it down after it's collected its data and send it back to the Chinese Communist Party.
We shoot it down over Hilton Head.
Then we have Russia.
And what is Russia doing?
They're in a conflict with Ukraine.
And Germany is in the middle of all this because of the Nordstrom gas line.
So the geopolitical conflict also keeps the United States distracted when you don't have leadership that's focused.
You know, one of the things Rebecca said, she said, as an intelligence officer, we didn't say what the policy should be, but if you tell us what you want the policy to be, we will tell you the ways to achieve it.
And you know what the question here is?
What is the policy?
Just throw more money at it and see if that works?
Because apparently no strategy.
I mean, that I think is what is so upsetting the American people.
It's not that we want to see the Russians win or the Ukrainians lose.
We want to see a strategy to end this conflict.
Now, coming up next.
Senator Eric Schmidt of Missouri.
He was former Attorney General of Missouri.
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Big tech.
I mean, we know we talked about how 100 million, there's 100 million Chinese spy devices in the United States right now because of people with TikTok on their phones.
And the way that those terms of services, we're going to talk to him about big tech censorship and also some of this international spying done through big tech.
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Well, we've been on Sean's program a lot, the radio broadcasts and TV, but also you may remember us as lawyers on the floor of the United States Senate for about two and a half, three weeks, defending the former president in the impeachment.
Also, of course, we did the Mueller investigation.
It's so interesting to me when you look at all these issues we're facing right now.
Technology has changed so much since three years ago, it seems like in technology land, a lifetime ago.
We're going to be joined by Senator Eric Schmidt.
He was the Attorney General for Missouri, and he has talked about this nexus between big tech and the social media companies and the political system.
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Welcome back to Sean Hannity Show.
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I want to get right to this because we have a U.S. Senator Eric Schmidt joining us, a senator from Missouri.
There was a hearing yesterday on Capitol Hill.
I want to play first Chairman Comer oversight.
Take a listen to his statement about the collusion of that word between big tech and the FBI.
Twitter's previous management team deplatformed and suppressed not just conservative voices, but anyone whose opinion strayed from what they deemed acceptable.
Opinions such as that students could and should attend school in person to curb learning loss.
In the past, Twitter's leadership included previous CEO Jack Dorsey, claimed the company did not limit the visibility of certain accounts and tweets known as shadow padding.
He said this in front of Congress in 2018.
But we now know they did, even placing such accounts on search and trend backlists.
Twitter's employees made censorship decisions on the fly, often not following the company's own policy, publicly stated policies.
It worked hand in hand with the FBI to monitor the protected speech of Americans, receiving millions of tax dollars to do so.
Twitter, under the leadership of our witnesses today, was a private company.
The federal government used to accomplish what it constitutionally cannot, limit the free exercise of speech.
We now know all this thanks to Elon Musk and the independent journalists who have contributed to what are known as the Twitter files.
Okay.
So then all these big tech execs are there.
Some are former FBI officials.
James Baker.
Like James Baker with general counsel of the FBI.
Twitter.
Got let go by Elon Musk.
He was a key of getting rid of the Hunter Biden laptop story.
But they all forget everything once they're before the committee when they're sworn to tell the truth to not commit murder.
Take a listed, you heard Comer.
Now here's the big tech execs.
I do not have access to my Twitter emails, so I do not know if or how I responded to Mr. Roth.
To the best of my recollection, I do not recall directing or urging him to take action with respect to Mr. Trump's tweet.
Do you remember sending that message?
Thank you for the question, Congressman.
I don't recall that message specifically.
Mr. Baker, did you call any of your contacts at the FBI to ask whether or not they knew if the material had been hacked?
I don't recall contacting them about that on that day.
I don't recall speaking to the FBI sitting here today.
I don't recall speaking to the FBI at all about the Hunter Biden matter.
I don't know the answer to that question, sir.
Mr. Jordan, I don't recall discussing that publication that they did about the Hunter Biden laptop with any of those people.
Mr. Baker, yes or no?
Have I ever communicated with a government official using those?
Yes or no?
I don't recall.
Ms. Gaddy.
Not to the best of my recollection.
Yes.
Mr. Rowley.
Not to my recollection, though.
Do you recall making decisions in this manner?
No, I do not.
Those meetings were several years ago.
I truly don't recall.
And so surely there had to be some level of conversation as to why Hunter Biden was the topic in that scenario.
Not that I can specifically recall.
I don't recall exactly who was there.
Did the CIA or the other governmental agency ever ask Twitter to look at something that violated Twitter's policy?
I don't recall specific outreach by the CIA specifically.
You know what it is?
They don't recall anything.
We're joined by Senator Eric Schmidt of Missouri, former attorney general for the state, and headed up a deep dive into the connections between government, big tech, and social media.
Senator, let me first get your general assessment on this whole situation where it looks like the government was putting their thumb on the scale and putting their foot on the neck of these social media companies to do what they wanted done here.
What's your sense of all this?
Well, first of all, I had to just, when you're playing that, I'm just laughing on the phone because it was a lot like the deposition we took of Anthony Fauci after he, by the way, no joke, had the court reporter put a mask on after she sneezed.
This wasn't, this was like three months ago, like two and a half years in.
This is the guy that was in charge of shutting down our country.
But he said I don't recall like 175 times during the course of the deposition.
So all that sounds very familiar.
I appreciate you guys covering this because, you know, to take a step back in May of last year, when I was Attorney General, Missouri, we filed that Lambark lawsuit, Missouri versus Biden, which alleged, which has now been proven, by the way, the collusion between big government and big tech.
You know, the government doesn't get to outsource to these, you know, some of the biggest companies in the history of the world what they can't normally do because they're prohibited under the First Amendment, which is to suppress speech, right?
So you got big tech in one bucket doing this, which may or may not likely does violate their terms of service.
You know, Section 230 reform should be on the table with them.
But when the government gets involved and uses big tech as an instrument of their censorship, that's illegal.
And that is what was shown in that lawsuit.
When I was AG, basically, they had a censorship, weekly censorship meetings.
They had a special portal.
They had, I mean, the government was directing Facebook, Twitter, other platforms to take things down, deplatform, and censor content.
They can't do that.
The Twitter files then further exposes that.
And now, thankfully, we have these oversight hearings in the House where they're further amplifying this.
This is, and by the way, guys, I don't care what your political stripe is, Republican, conservative, or Republican, Democrat, conservative, liberal, whatever.
This ought to scare the dejesus out of everyone in this country that a government that, with all of its power and authority, is limiting the speech of Americans.
That should not happen.
And I think this is a very worthwhile effort by the House.
We ought to continue.
I'm going to keep working on this issue in the Senate because it's just important to our Republic.
The First Amendment's the beating heart of the Constitution.
We can't sacrifice it because the media wants to defend this narrative.
You know, Senator, I've spent four decades before the Supreme Court of the United States arguing against government censorship, viewpoint discrimination, which is just classically what this is.
In other words, you let one side of the debate through, but you censor out and squelch the other side of the debate.
And that's exactly what's happening here.
But you mentioned Section 230 and the issue of Section 230 comes up a lot.
You're the former Attorney General for your state.
Will you explain to the audience what that Section 230 gives these big tech companies that no other business would get?
Yeah, so back in 1996, the Internet is kind of becoming this wide open territory where people can like, you know, they can look up things.
You have to go like on microfiche before.
Like, I'm 47, but I'm old enough to remember that kind of stuff.
So the internet is exploding.
Congress in 1996 said, okay, we're going to treat the internet and these platforms like Facebook, Twitter, and others as platforms.
We're not going to treat them as publishers.
And the legal difference there is a publisher can get sued if they don't thoroughly vet things or if you're defaming somebody.
The platforms are exempted from that because they're supposed to be kind of this open source way of people communicating.
That was a decision to make.
So they have legal protection, essentially, that other, like, you know, CBS or Fox News, they don't have.
And so they've gotten the benefit of that all along now.
But here's what's happened.
Now they want to treat the left has taken over many of these platforms.
Now they actually want to be publishers and they want to censor speech in their way and they don't want to be held accountable for it.
And so that's why you hear this discussion about Section 230 reform is say either be a publisher or be what you're actually supposed to be under the law, which is a platform.
And being a platform, then people get to weigh in, right?
But what's happening now is people are labeling on the left everything that they don't like as disinformation.
Well, here's the thing.
People have a right to express their point of view.
And that's what was happening in this, you know, what's been exposed in our lawsuits, the Twitter files and all the hearings is the government didn't like that you had physicians, by the way, questioning that five-year-olds should be wearing masks all day long.
And guess what we know now?
It was devastating for an entire generation of students now who were left out of school or couldn't see facial expressions, you know, and now they're dealing with depression and anxiety, loss of learning.
And there were some of us, I mean, in Missouri when I was AG, we sued 50 school districts for the forced masking of kids.
You saw that happening around the country.
People were willing to stand up.
But I remember the fact checkers and the verify teams, they come after you.
So anyway, this is basically to protect dissent.
It's protect people, you know, being able to say what they want to say.
It's really important in this country to have that pressure release valve.
And that's why this hearing, this issue, that lawsuit is so important.
The government has no business telling you what you can and cannot say.
You're 100% correct.
And, you know, we had that whole thing with these fact checkers.
We've had that with Facebook where they will, you know, fact check, they censor you out.
They notify your entire, you know, yeah, we've got 8 million people, you know, on our combined Facebook lists, and they're getting these notifications that we said something was false.
And every single time, Senator, every single time, we punch back and they have to correct it.
But they never, how they correct it is they just lift the flag.
They never send another email or another alert through Facebook that, hey, we got this wrong and we shouldn't have censored the ACLJ.
We beat them every single time.
Jordan?
You know, Senator, one of the things you were talking about young people, too.
And one thing we're concerned about through our ACLJ Acture C4 is TikTok.
I mean, we've heard so much about the terms of service that basically, you know, if you're going to do business as a Chinese company, you have to give data over to the Chinese military, Chinese intelligence, the Chinese Communist Party.
And we know 100 million Americans have got TikTok on their phones, like having 100 million Chinese spy devices or 100 million balloons, if you will.
And there's been action talked about before in Washington about banning TikTok.
Then they reshuffled real quick and tried to get a U.S. subsidiary.
But the terms of service don't change.
And we were talking about how bad, Senator, it is with some of these U.S.-based companies.
Explain to us what we're hearing about.
TikTok, are you in support of these ideas that we should be banning like the federal Wi-Fi, state Wi-Fi's?
And some states have started to take that action.
Even Joe Biden has opened the door to it.
Yeah, I think TikTok, and I think what's unique, there's all kinds of problems with these big tech companies.
We've talked about these American-based businesses because there's consumer protection issues about information that's being used that people don't know about.
There's antitrust issues.
Then we've got this censorship issue.
So there's plenty, plenty of things to do there.
And in my view, bust up some of the biggest, most powerful countries, like I said, in the history of the planet.
I mean, that's how much information they have.
And you see what happens now when that kind of information is used the wrong way.
But TikTok, I think, you can put in a different category.
This is a national security issue.
There is no private company in China.
I mean, they are the Chinese Communist Party essentially controls the military and all the civilian kind of information flow, and they're all connected.
And so when they're getting that kind of information from adults and from kids, this is really disturbing.
They're getting an opportunity to do something they never dreamed, which is to kind of build profiles and track people with immense amount of data throughout their entire lives, potentially.
And so that's why I think this is a very important issue.
You know, taking on these issues of big tech is one of the reasons why I'm glad I was appointed to the Senate Commerce Committee.
We're going to have a lot of those kinds of issues that come up.
I think these are these emerging issues of our time that we've got to have thoughtful people, you know, making sure we're pushing back.
And that's what I want to do because, you know, we could spend a whole hour on this, guys, as you guys very well know, on just some of these big tech issues and why it's so concerning for the American people.
Senator, I wanted to tell you, I've been a huge fan of yours when you were the Missouri AG, and I'm thrilled that you're in the United States Senate as you said on the Commerce Committee because of all these issues that are happening.
Thank you for taking the stands you have in the past and the stands you're taking now for the American people.
And as you just said, for our kids, my case, for my grandkids, these are huge issues, big implications.
Senator Schmidt, thanks for being with us.
We really appreciate it.
Jordan?
Yeah, absolutely.
And I think the senator's right.
You've got to have elected officials who understand tech.
We've seen a lot of problems in the courts with judges that are just too old.
They don't understand.
They just don't yet understand tech.
We saw that even with some of the Hunter Biden.
Is it his computer?
Is that his actual computer?
Is it the data?
It's the data.
But that's not a computer.
That was even the lawyers writing the letters were getting it wrong.
So these discussions.
That's what you have to understand.
You can't have a 15-year-old senator, but you do have to have young senators who understand this, who have been fighting it their careers.
And Senator Schmidt has been doing that so that when they come before Congress and have to testify that Congress makes regulations, these are actual people who understand.
That is such a huge issue with tech.
We have to understand it first before we can regulate the problems out.
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