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	Hey everybody, welcome back to the second hour of the Sean Hannity program.
	This is Jay Sekul and Jordan Secular.
	We are subbing in for Sean today.
	That's a legal firm that uh stands up for the values and things and the issues that you care about, and that's why we're glad to be with you today.
	We had a great opportunity.
	One of our our this is unbelievable to be able to say, one of our staff members is Mike Pompeo, the former Secretary of State, who is our senior counsel, Jordan for global affairs at the ACLJ.
	Yeah, it's also the former CIA director, a military background, uh member of Congress, so he's got kind of everything together.
	And you know what all the uh if all this stuff with the Chinese balloon and the Chinese spy balloon, and ultimately it was shut down, and now we know in Fox News is reporting that uh the administration and military telling us that they found most of this intact.
	Which is good.
	That's good uh if we're able then to the saltwater to destroy what was intact and we're able to extract their technology, really is what we want to know.
	Of course, what was bad was that it they the Biden administration allowed the balloon, which was a spy balloon job to traverse the entire United States over sensitive military sites, not just necessary military sites.
	I mean sensitive sites, including, you know, they said they could it could pick up signal intelligence, which means phone calls.
	It was that sophisticated.
	Phone calls, radar, anything done electronically.
	And the Biden administration let it go throughout the entire United States.
	That's right, and we got one set in for a minute.
	Yeah, let that sit in for a minute.
	That you had a situation where exp uh uh a balloon flying at about 60,000 feet was able to get all the 30s, you can drop down to 30, was controlled by the Chinese government as it was flying over the United States.
	By the way, you think they'd allow us to do that to China?
	We wouldn't do it.
	And they wouldn't do it.
	And then it's getting signal intelligence, which means everything from communication to sensitive military information.
	And this administration says, you remember this one?
	They called it a domain gap, the intelligence officials, because they didn't market urgent when it was first traversing towards the United States, coming towards the United States.
	Our intelligence, you know, in this United country, I am which I'm very concerned about.
	Because they said, well, it's a domain gap.
	It was our mistake.
	Basically, our bad, we shouldn't have done it, and we let it go over and we didn't communicate it as urgent.
	How do you not communicate a spy balloon flying at 50 to 60,000 feet that can go down to 30 feet that's controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, flying over the United States, including military bases?
	How do you say that's not urgent?
	No, I mean this is all urgent.
	I mean the president's tried to play this off.
	This is no big deal.
	Uh, no problem.
	But then he admitted to never talking to President Xi.
	He has had no communication uh with President Xi based off his interviews.
	He said that uh to Judy Woodruff, I believe, and then he said, uh the Secretary of State, of course, we know that the Chinese will not speak to him.
	Secretary of Defense, the Chinese counterpart will not speak to him.
	So so far, based on what the Biden administration has told us, there has been no high-level communication between China and the U.S. since we shot the balloon down.
	The Chinese did ask for the balloon back.
	But here's the exact quote that was about from our intelligence officials and our military.
	Uh we did not detect those threats, and that's a domain awareness gap.
	I mean, I'll tell you what it is, a major mess up and put the entire country at risk.
	And then he says, we have to figure that out.
	Now, I you know if we just had NORAD.
	Okay, but you know what we just talked about in the last hour?
	We talked about the fact that you got the FBI now targeting, quote, radical Catholics, that is a Catholic that goes to maths and the mass is in in Latin.
	And the FBI field office in Richmond sends out a memo.
	Radical traditional Catholics.
	Yeah, radical traditional.
	They came up with an acronym, of course.
	And the FBI sends us out in the memo, but they said the FBI said, Oh, don't worry, we do now realize we shouldn't have done that, but only went to the FBI.
	By the way, I like and we said it, by the way, the ACLJ, we sent out a Freedom of Information Act.
	They call them request.
	I call them demands, to the FBI.
	I want to know who drafted that memo, where it could go.
	We we talked about that.
	So I mean, you you understand the nature and scope of all this.
	You gotta fight back on these issues.
	So let me tell you what we had the opportunity.
	Um we get to have Mike Pompeo on our broadcast.
	We do a broadcast as well, it's noon Eastern Time, uh, just called Seculo, and you can find that out information about that at ACLJ.org.
	Um, and again, you could get information about our broadcast.
	But because um Mike is a member of our team, as our senior counsel for global affairs, we had the pleasure of sitting down with him earlier to discuss these issues of China.
	Take a listen.
	Mike, I want to start with a statement from President Biden about China.
	It's bite nineteen.
	Let's go ahead and play it.
	No.
	No.
	How do you know?
	I know.
	I talked to him.
	You've talked to Xi Jinping before I and our our team talks to their people.
	During this?
	Yeah, after that, I haven't talked to him during this.
	But look, I mean, I'm gonna jump right in here.
	Okay, so Mr. Secretary.
	He had to know this question was coming from Trudy Woodruff.
	We've just had that balloon traverse the United States, and you know, he he keeps phrasing this as competition, not enemies, or not you know, not rivals in that sense.
	Well, what you you had to deal with Xi Jinping.
	You know him.
	I mean, so what what's your sense of the way the administration is handling this?
	Well, Jay, I gonna assure your audience that the Chinese Communist Party views America as an enemy, as an adversary.
	He Xi Jinping has made no mistake.
	He he wants global hedgement, he wants to control not only countries close to his, but ours as well.
	And to hear our president say, I mean, it's confusing, right?
	I hard to tell.
	Yeah, we talked to him.
	Well, we we we don't talk to him.
	It sounds like they've rejected our calls.
	They should have been chasing us down, frankly.
	Um, saying, we're so sorry.
	We sent a PLA, that is the Chinese military's balloon.
	That's who it belonged to.
	It wasn't a weather service, it wasn't their aviation weather gathering.
	It was a Chinese military, the People's Liberation Army balloon across our country for five days that spied on us.
	And to hear our president say, gosh, that doesn't change anything, nothing's different, is pretty pretty darn outrageous, but mostly it is really dangerous.
	Yeah, I mean, as Secretary Pompeo, we hear that and I think the American people just scratch their heads.
	They're going, what is going on in our leadership in our country?
	The disconnect between our military leaders, uh, the general from NORAD saying they just they dropped the ball, they couldn't they didn't pick this up, and and now uh the absurdity as well.
	We've seen China say, we want this back.
	I mean, this it's the the kind of boldness of the Chinese.
	I I know the I don't think the Biden administration will do that, but it just kind of shows where they think their standing is in the world.
	Jordan, I don't think they'll give it back either, but I would have never dreamed they would allow it to traverse our country for almost a week and then and humiliate our country and allow them to capture a lot of information, not only what appears to have been signals collection antenna that were on the balloon, but also to send a message to the whole world to our friends.
	Hey, America can't defend its own sovereignty against a balloon traveling at 60,000 feet, ten or fifteen miles an hour.
	That is that that is dangerous.
	That weakness is very provocative, and Xi Jinping certainly was testing us, and the Biden administration absolutely failed this particular test.
	We have our ACLJ Action uh Mike has sent a uh letter to our an email to our members.
	Now we've already received five thousand responses in about three hours, uh, about the situation with TikTok and the banning of TikTok, which we think, you know, the president said he it sounded like he was at least open to it.
	Will you explain I think it's very important coming from you uh As a former director of the Central Intelligence Agency, the CIA, and as our former Secretary of State, the danger of TikToks being a TikTok app on someone's phone.
	Let me talk directly to parents.
	Parents, if your child is using TikTok, the Chinese Communist Party is capturing lots of information about them, what they watch, when they watch it, how they watch it, what they watch in sequence, who their friends are who are watching it alongside of them, what their face looks like, lots of data.
	Goodness knows how they will ultimately use that.
	Um so parents for that reason alone should take this off their kids' phone.
	Second, they are also flooding your children.
	They're flooding your children with propaganda.
	Chinese Communist Party propaganda, they are speaking to them in ways that undermine America to talk about an American nation that is decadent and in decline, and a Chinese model, a communist socialist, Marxist, Leninist model as the primary way that one should think about the world.
	They are using this both as an information collection tool and to change the minds of American young people.
	We ought to ban it from not just our government phones, but from every single application should be taken off of every phone here in the United States, whether on a phone or laptop or any place else.
	I thought you sent out a tweet that I wanted to ask you about when we were talking about China, about President Xi.
	You said I met uh Xi Jinping.
	He was the toughest and most evil person I encountered as Secretary of State.
	And it's clear that he's testing us in every direction.
	That is a strong statement as a as a former Secretary of State.
	Could you kind of get into a little bit more and explain to people why you picked up that feel from him?
	So my my encounters with him, uh, sometimes just by myself and sometimes alongside the president were consistent.
	He he was dead-eyed.
	He he he didn't there was no cheer, there was no joy.
	Uh he didn't he didn't smile, there was no small talk.
	Uh he was direct and he was vicious in the way he spoke about the things he intended to defend.
	And so, you know, when I when I book I call it Never Give an Inch, he is the king of never giving an inch.
	He he literally wanted everything for him, nothing for us.
	It was it was the inverse of Ronald Reagan.
	It was the Chinese version of uh America loses, China wins, and I never saw any place where we could actually find what President Biden was talking about in the opening cut, said, gosh, we're gonna find places we could get along.
	I never saw that.
	Um we we lived through the Wuhan virus he spent across the world to kill millions of people.
	Uh we suffered from lots of efforts of the Chinese Communist Party to spy on us from their consulate in Houston, Texas, which we shut down.
	This was a serious man intent on achieving his hegemonic objective.
	People forget about the that the embassy in in Texas that was shut down.
	Let's remind people, Mr. Secretary, why you took that action.
	So, Jay, this was the what I believe the largest spying operation ever conducted inside of the United States against the American people.
	They were their diplomats under diplomatic cover were collecting uh information about America's most sophisticated energy companies.
	Think about the Beltway corridor from between Woodlands and Houston ports.
	They were stealing information from our research universities, our uh medical facilities, the Texas medical system.
	They were using this to take them back to their country to go dump cheap products in the United States and to undermine our country.
	We we we've known this for a while, but much like President Biden previous administration had just been afraid to provoke Xi Jinping and took no response.
	We we ultimately did, and Americans were safer for that.
	Last question, we only got about a minute and a half left, and that is if if you were the commander in chief and the situation happened with China uh with the balloon, what would have you done?
	So I I w I would have clearly recommended to the president, or if I were the president, I would have shot this down long before it traversed our major military institutions or or facilities.
	Second, now that you have hold of the balloon, we should collect.
	If there are Western technologies on there, which I'm confident we will find, we should make sure those components never again leave the United States and go to China.
	And we should sanction every PLA-connected company that was connected to this balloon program.
	Think of the People's Liberation Army as an extension of China's commerce.
	We know how to do it, Jay.
	We just have to be serious about protecting America.
	All right.
	Uh Mike Pompeo, our senior counsel for global affairs, former Secretary of State as always.
	Thanks for being with us.
	Thanks for your insight on this.
	It's critically important.
	As I said, we're thrilled that uh Mike Pompeo was senior counsel for global affairs at our organization, the ACLJ.
	You know, Jordan is interesting what he said.
	He said he had direct experience dealing with Xi Jinping, the chairman of the Yep, sometimes one on one.
	He said he was vicious, no joy, no cheer.
	He said he is the guy.
	Mike has a great book out called Never Give an Inch, but he said this is the king of Never Give an Inch.
	And talk about Chairman Gee.
	He said he could never see any place where we could actually get along.
	And then he said, serious man intent on achieving his goals.
	Yeah, not just some crazed dictator.
	Uh so when he calls him evil, which he did as well, uh the the way he just has, you know, kind of that that evil look in his eyes and no joy.
	He doesn't say he's out of control and doesn't know what he's doing.
	Right.
	He says specifically he's a serious man intent on achieving his objective.
	Do we have a president of the United States right now who is a serious man intent on achieving objectives that he should be, which is defending the United States.
	That's your number one job as president of the United States.
	But if we don't, what about that interview we did with Judy Woodward?
	I mean, just think about that way.
	The President Biden, where he could not first he said he does talk to him, but then he acknowledged he did not talk to the chairman of the Chinese Communist Party since the balloon.
	And yes, yourself, he's the president of the United States.
	If could you imagine if it was Donald Trump was in there?
	You think that first of all, they wouldn't be and and they try to deflect on that too.
	That fly, oh, there were balloons in during the the Trump administration.
	We just didn't tell anybody.
	The government didn't tell the president that this was going on, our intelligence officials.
	They would have never done it, is the truth of the matter.
	And now what you've got is they never flew over the the United States.
	They briefly were in our uh briefly within our probably international uh our waters.
	Also, President Biden in the Smith of the Union, we're gonna be joined by um Senator Lee.
	This will be fascinating to talk to him back in the next segment coming up.
	He said he views China as the president, not as our adversary, but rather as our competitor.
	Well, you know, what Mike Pompeo said was actually correct.
	Chairman Cheat views the United States as the enemy.
	They had the nerve to say we want our balloon back.
	I mean, just think about all of this.
	As I said, coming up, our good friend Senator Mike Lee.
	We talked to him about a lot of issues, including what happened at the Smithsonian, because he's been involved in all these issues.
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	Hey, welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show.
	This is Jordan Secul with my dad, Jay Sekiel.
	We're hosting for Sean today.
	We have got a great segment coming up, a great guest coming up, and I can't wait to have Senator Mike Lee of Utah.
	He's a great friend of ours at the American Center for Law and Justice.
	He's involved, these attacks on these students, uh, the pro-life students, but also everything that he had to sit through at the State of the Union, the attack on Republicans trying to take away your Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid.
	We're going to talk about all of that with Mike Lee in just a few minutes as he joins us.
	Yeah, and I'll tell you something, he's got great insight on all of these major issues that we're dealing with.
	And he's like I say, he's been a great friend of the ACLJs for a long, long time.
	So we're looking forward to having our friend Senator Mike Lee of Utah coming up with us right after this break.
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	Hey, this is Jay Secul and Jordan Secular in for Sean Hannity.
	We're thrilled to be here coming up, our guest, Senator Mike Lee.
	We're going to talk about the State of the Union speech.
	That was something else.
	Take a listen to this.
	The number of misstatements.
	That's being kind.
	Lives would be more appropriate from the president of the United States.
	Listen to this.
	I stand here tonight after we've created with the help of many people in this room.
	12 million new jobs.
	More jobs created in two years than any president's created in four years.
	We've already created your help.
	800,000 good paying manufacturing jobs.
	The fastest growth in 40 years.
	30 million workers have to sign non-compete agreements for the jobs they take.
	30 million.
	So a cashier at a burger place can't walk across town and take the same job at another burger place and make a few bucks more.
	It just changed.
	But I just changed it.
	Because we exposed it.
	That was part of the deal, guys.
	Look it up.
	Instead of making the wealthy pay their fair share, some Republicans, some Republicans want Medicare and Social Security sunset.
	I'm not saying it's the majority of them.
	Because the soul of this nation is strong.
	Because the backbroker backbone of this nation is strong.
	Because the people of this nation are strong.
	The state of the Union is strong.
	30 million people signing non-compete to work at a hamburger restaurant.
	Where does he he made this stuff up?
	Anyways, this is Jane Jordan seconds.
	They shouldn't find people to work at those places.
	They can't even, that's true.
	They can't find people who were not having them sign nine of peace.
	Our good friend Senator Mike Lee is joining us, uh, Senator Lee from Utah, of course.
	Senator, it is great to have you.
	Great to talk to you.
	You sat through this.
	I I want to get your overall reaction first.
	Yeah, it was painful.
	I think I'd rather go to the dentist's office and actually compare that to dentistry in any way.
	In any way, he's not fair to the dental profession.
	The bottom line is he misapprehends his own role in the universe.
	He misapprehends the capacity of government to create jobs.
	It can't, because it can't generate wealth.
	All it does is it can tax and thereby redistribute wealth, but that isn't creating jobs.
	If anything, it's reducing them.
	He mischaracterized our positions, left and right.
	And he did so in a way that was really cheap, and uh he went far beyond what I've seen any president do in previous State of the Union addresses.
	That it's really two million.
	That's what the Bureau of Labor Statistics told us that the other ten million were really just jobs that people already had that they got back after the uh COVID reopenings began.
	That's right.
	And that's how he uses his government manufactured statistics, can manipulate them and then manipulate and wordsmith his messaging in a way that makes it look like he's responsible for that.
	But look, I always say that any president, any public official, anytime you hear anyone claiming to have been a job creator, it's not true.
	If on the other hand, they say uh set in place a set of conditions that allows for stronger free markets and allows people to keep more of what they earn, and that has led to more economic growth and job job creation, uh they may be over the target if they can back it up with stats.
	President Biden has neither of those things.
	He has neither the logic nor the facts to back him up, and that's what makes this so indefensible.
	You know, there's a lot of discussion, of course, when House committees on the weaponization of the federal government.
	We talked about this the first style of the broadcast.
	I I want to say this to folks.
	This you sign on to a letter that the American Center for Law and Justice Organization is involved in, excuse me, and it involves this attack of these students at the Smithsonian and also in the National Archives, where they went in after the uh March for Life, they were wearing a t-shirt that said I'm the pro-life generation, or a hat that just said rosary and pro-life, and they were harassed, told to take it off.
	We filed a federal lawsuit.
	You you went and and signed a letter, a very strong letter to the uh Smithsonian.
	We now are dealing with the National Archives as well.
	We're in court on both of them.
	And then you've got the FBI issuing a directive out of the Richmond field office saying that, you know, we need to be looking out for quote radical traditionalist Catholics.
	And that was and they define that as Catholics that go to a Latin mass, and as if they're going to be immediately equates them to white supremacy.
	And the FBI is saying, oh, we shouldn't have sent that out, but don't worry, it only went to the FBI.
	In other words, it didn't go to the CIA or the Secret Service.
	It just went throughout the FBI.
	And this is what's happening in our federal government right now.
	What's your thoughts on this?
	You're a very good lawyer, great senator.
	What's your thought on this?
	This is not just something that could lead to tyranny.
	This is tyranny.
	This is not just something that could lead to religious bigotry.
	It is the very definition of bigotry.
	Um we've got to stop this, and it's one of countless reasons that we can point to as to why the federal government has become too big, too expensive, and therefore too unaccountable.
	This is the kind of thing it does when a government is allowed to print its own money, fuel its own expansion, and hide its true cost from the people.
	It ends up harming people because it ends up undermining uh the means by which in Federalist Pen and elsewhere, the founding fathers envisioned different factions being able to hold each other in check.
	Those factions can't hold each other in check, and with it our social and economic fabric.
	If our government has the ability to step in and become the faction to end all other factions, that's what's going on here.
	Yeah, I mean, it feels like, and I think what a lot of Americans who are intuitive, they're listening to Sean's show, they are.
	If they're engaged with us, ACLJ, they are.
	They're following you, they are engaged.
	That oftentimes in this administration it's really on display.
	We saw it, them fighting back under the Trump administration, certainly, but under this administration, it feels like bureaucrats are running the show.
	So whether it's this FBI letter, whether it's the harassment of the pro-life students, whether it's the weaponization of bureaucracies that we're that Congress is now looking at.
	As a senator, when you're talking to either cabinet level officials or appointees, do they seem like they've got control over their own agencies?
	No, they don't.
	And it feels like bureaucrats are in control because the bureaucrats are in control.
	And tragically, Congress is has made this guaranteed this to be the case.
	Uh over many decades now, you've seen houses of representatives, Senates, and White Houses of every conceivable Partisan combination, giving more and more authority to more and more unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats, giving them the authority in countless circumstances, even to make the very laws that they enforce.
	That is itself another definition of tyranny itself.
	And so we've got to roll these things back.
	These are all wake-up calls.
	They're reminders of why this can't happen.
	And uh well, I'm not Catholic myself.
	I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, uh a church whose members are unique in American history in one respect, where the only religious sect, to my knowledge, that's ever been ordered exterminated by any government authority, as we were by the governor of Missouri on October 27, 1838.
	When you start seeing governments treat as suspect, members of a faith or particular identifiable members within that faith, that is always a prelude to other bad things, and we need to nip this in the bud right now.
	You know, it's interesting you said that.
	I I wrote my PhD dissertation on uh the religious influences on the Supreme Court and the controversies when the various courts were in session.
	I did a whole chapter on what was called the Mormon controversy, as you just mentioned.
	And it you you can see government.
	This is the thing we have to be careful for.
	The Bill of Rights were already in place, the Constitution was there, and yet, you know, a governor thought he could exterminate a group of people because he didn't like what they believed.
	Or and and Senator is the same thing here.
	Let's go investigate.
	They were going to put agents, I mean, this was their plan, and it looks like they actually had it already started.
	They were putting agents inside these churches and then trying to recruit members of those churches to be informants.
	And so when you had the power of the government and that kind of tyranny that can exist when government gets this unbridled, unchecked bureaucratic power that they have.
	That's why the FBI sends out these things.
	But you know what's interesting to me, Senator?
	The FBI says, Oh, we quickly pulled this back once we we found out about it.
	Now, it was on their letterhead, okay, out of their Richmond field office.
	They said, and don't worry, it only went to the FBI.
	We quickly responded.
	The Smithsonian and the and the National Archives, when they targeted those students, you know, they can't find top secret documents with presidents, former presidents, and former vice presidents, but they can target pro-life students real easy of every denomination and every faith.
	They have no problem targeting them.
	What's the irony of all this is everybody says we quickly fix this, we quickly fix it.
	And the truth is that's why we go to federal court, and and you know something about these these cases.
	That's why you gotta fight back.
	And you're doing that in the Senate, we're doing in the courtrooms.
	But this is real, this is really targeted at the American people here and people of faith.
	No, it really is.
	And this is why governments that get too big and too strong and too powerful and all important in their respective countries.
	Nearly every single one of them have this one thing in common.
	They tend to become enemies of religious belief, or at least of any religious belief that isn't supporting and backing the government regime in question.
	Why?
	Well, because it's a it's the most powerful uh uh institution of civil society that any country can have.
	The the family and religion, nothing else compares to that.
	And families and religious beliefs back each other up.
	And so uh for a totalitarian or a fascist or any kind of socialist, uh religious freedom always lurks in the background as a challenge to the ultimate authority of the state of the government.
	And that's why we've got to be so suspicious of any effort to weaken that.
	And that's why it's uh it's it's no coincidence that this was lifted as one of our first freedoms in our very first amendment of the Constitution.
	You know, it's so interesting because in the in this document from the FBI, they of course they blame all of this on the uh overturning of Roe vs.
	Wade.
	Interestingly, there's more attacks on, of course, Jordan on uh pro-life uh resource centers than there have been on uh abortion clinics like 10 to 1, uh as far as the numbers go.
	It's it's been unbelievable.
	That's what they tie it in.
	Well, it's certainly at every one of these examples.
	The FBI doesn't pull back the memo or say they pull back the memo until it was exposed publicly.
	The our National Archives did not apologize to the pro-life uh uh students who were who were visiting and told to take off their shirts uh until it was exposed.
	In fact, they tried to use a Fox News article and say, no, no, you were talking about the Smithsonian.
	So they first tried to play it off like that, then they issued apology.
	The Smithsonian, they didn't apologize until we were on Shaw's show.
	Right.
	We were on Fox News and with one of the students.
	So I mean it's it's not like Senator they're ever proactive in getting ahead of their so-called wrongdoing, which they'll apologize for after the fact, but they're never proactive in the first place.
	Right.
	And this is what's so tragic.
	Look, I used to be an assistant U.S. attorney who worked with the FBI routinely.
	They were a great institution.
	It was going back about 20 years, of course.
	Um but as of late, I'm still inclined to say it's still a good institution.
	Just has some problems at the top.
	But increasingly, as these things become more prevalent, as the FBI becomes more and more reluctant as an institution to even acknowledge wrongdoing.
	Uh whether it's caught or not, even when it is caught, it still doesn't acknowledge wrongdoing, genuinely.
	Makes me wonder how much of it left is good.
	I have no doubt that there are countless agents in the FBI who remain good, faithful, patriotic, committed to the Constitution.
	But there appear to be enough that don't feel that way.
	But believe their job, at least involves targeting Americans who don't want to show whatever political line they would prefer.
	We've got a serious problem, a serious cultural problem within the most law enforcement entity in the United States.
	No question about a center.
	We appreciate your time.
	We appreciate the great work you're doing for the American people.
	Thank you for being on Sean's program.
	Pleasure to talk to you as always.
	Pleasure is mine.
	Thank you.
	I want to say this, folks.
	So all these issues we've talked about, the American Center for Law and Justice, the organization that Jordan and I head up, we're involved in.
	For instance, in the Smithsonian Institute and the National Archives, we've got we're in federal court on that right now.
	In fact, filing a preliminary injunction today, but we're already in federal court defending those students.
	We've already sent uh Freedom of Information Act demand to the FBI on this issue of targeting now, quote, traditionalist Catholics.
	So we're taking direct action on it.
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