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Uh, a ton of new revelations as it relates to the Biden's one is worse than the next.
Uh Miranda Devine in the New York Post putting out an article.
The documents on the laptop from Hell show that Hunter offered to sell intelligence on Russian oligarchs to the U.S. aluminum firm Alcoa for $55,000 in internal discussions over Hunter's proposal.
A senior executive at Alcoa suggested the information was valuable because it would not otherwise be on gov on the government affairs team's radar.
Hunter offered to provide Alcoa with a statistical analysis of the political corporate risks, elite networks associated with Olegaska.
Remember the oligarch and CEO of Basic Element Company and United Company uh RUSAL.
Now, in the email, Alcoa was then vice president of government and public affairs on June 3rd, 2011.
Hunter offered a little better sense of the product by attaching some of the raw data that is produced through elite mapping procedures.
And Hunter proposed the fees of $25,000 for phase one of the project and $55,000 for a refined analysis.
And five days later, Cruz's colleagues at Alcoa, their senior analyst, wrote, I don't believe the data analysis is worth the full 55 grand.
I think the most valuable piece for us would be the list of Russian elites connected to their poska and would not otherwise be on government affairs team's radar, including various Russian committee heads, union leaders, and ministers.
How is a raging drug addict at the time, crack addict at the time, a guy frequenting women of the night?
How does he have all this information and access to this information?
The other big story is nobody pays attention to this.
Remember, they found the documents on November 2nd.
The midterm was on November the 8th.
Now the FBI is revealing that they conducted a second search of Joe Biden's University of Pennsylvania office for classified documents.
This was in the Wall Street Journal.
And how come we didn't see all the flashing lights and there wasn't the raid and there wasn't the armed guards or arm armed officers?
Uh, why didn't they give the same treatment that they gave to Trump at Marilago?
Because this search came after Biden's lawyers agreed to let agents search his former office at the Penn Biden Center.
Remember, at Mar-a-Lago, the FBI agents, they were invited in, had unfettered access, were in the room where ultimately, quote, the documents were found.
They could have asked to take them that day.
They did not.
They didn't ask for more access either.
They just raided Merilago.
After the they saw the documents, they said, Would you mind putting a padlock on the door?
Okay, we'll put a padlock on the door.
And then, of course, Christopher Ray and Merrick Garland both bragging how they were the ones that that personally approved the raid of Mar-a-Lago.
So you got Hunter Biden's Alcoa email promising a Russian oligarch about the information raising concerns.
Well, what did he have access to?
It's pretty unbelievable.
You know, use he by the way, Hunter also, this was uh in the New York Post over the weekend.
He used the mansion where Joe's secret documents were found as his home office.
I'm not sure if this is the $49,900 a month room that he was renting at his father's house.
Anyway, so far the DOJ is looking the other way on Joe Biden's largest stash of secrets and documents, and that would be at the University of Delaware.
Uh one analysis of this, I mean, I thought this was pretty interesting as I was reading it.
Anyway, they they've used the University of Delaware for years to shield potentially embarrassing documents from public review for the Biden family.
Uh they say, well, we haven't been able to go through all the papers yet.
It's eleven years later, and they won't let anyone have any access to it at all.
They said if you actually broke it down, there was there was one analysis that all of the documents, uh, digital and otherwise, would fill two complete tractor trailers full of information.
By the way, Hunter Biden's art dealer is lawyered up in the process, which is new to me.
You have incriminating videos, you know, all over the place as it relates to this.
What what by the way?
What is the Biden Center?
What is the UPenn Biden Center?
Uh anyway, joining us Joe Paggs, host of the Joe Pag Show, Joe Concha, Fox News media expert, extraordinaire analyst, author of Come On Man and uh a bestseller.
Welcome both of you.
You know, every day I turn around, all I see is a double standard with Trump, Hillary versus you know, Trump versus Biden and and the Clintons, Joe Pags.
That's it.
There's always a double standard.
They've made it clear there's a two-tiered um justice system in this country.
But Sean, when you and I met more than twenty years ago, I was a TV news anchor in Albany.
I was a journalist for a really long time.
As a journalist, I mean, we know that the that the government is is completely leaning to the left.
The DOJ is owned by the left, and this stuff's been going on since Joe since Joe Biden was a senator.
But as a journalist, do you know what I would be doing with this story?
You know me.
I wouldn't be sleeping.
I'd be up all night.
I want to make my bones on a story like this.
Why isn't anybody in the journalism community going absolutely ape nuts about this and doing something to look?
This is my name.
This is like what Project Veritas does on stories, and they do a very good job.
Why isn't somebody doing that on the Biden administration on the Biden family on Hunter Biden, who has been buying people off internationally for over for what, two decades now?
Sean, I don't get it because I would be so in my family wouldn't see me.
I'd be working on this so much just to make my name in what it is that I chose to do.
It's stunning to me how uh how there's such a lack of journalism in this country.
I agree completely.
Joe, this is your wheelhouse.
Uh Hunter Biden used the mansion where Joe's secret documents were found as his home office, and so far the DOJ is looking the other way on what would be Biden's largest stash of documents, uh, and that's at the University of Delaware.
Um, there's a lot of documents in there, and they're not even touching those.
They won't go to the University of Delaware, Sean, and they won't go to the Hobbith Beach House.
Remember, Rehoboth is where Joe Biden has spent something like 157 days of his presidency, right?
Wait a minute.
How did he get to own all these homes on a senator's salary when he's a self-proclaimed poorest senator in Washington?
And these aren't, you know, bungalows on the beach, Sean, right?
The house in Wilmington is nearly 7,000 square feet.
Any beach property on the East Coast is going to be into the millions as well.
We know that.
So right, exactly.
Where did the money come from?
And is Joe Biden the big guy who got 10% back on Hunter Biden's dealings in Ukraine and China and Russia?
Tony Bobolinsky, who was Hunter Biden's primary business partner at the time says, absolutely, that is Joe Biden.
So to Joe Paggs's point, if we just took one name out of this and inserted another name into it, if you take Hunter Biden out and you put Donald Trump Jr. in, and if you take Joe Biden out and you put Donald Trump in, then I have a feeling that there would be hundreds upon thousands of journalists probably looking into the story without sleeping, no question about it, because then suddenly it would be a chilling threat to democracy, and this is something that absolutely must be investigated.
Instead, it's silence of the lamb, Sean.
Peter Schweitzer said, Joe Paggs, that we need to know why foreign money kept going to the Bidens.
And I I'd like to get a final figure.
China alone, you got the one point five billion dollar Bank of China deal.
You got the five million dollar no interest forgivable loan.
You got the hundred thousand dollar shopping spree.
So we have all of that.
Then then of course our other big geopolitical foe would be Russia, a lot of m millions flowing from Russia and a Russian oligarch and the former First Lady of Moscow, you know, right into Hunter and his businesses, and then Kazakhstan and then we know everything about Ukraine.
Uh and never mind, you know, the the laws that were broken from lying on an application for a gun and tax laws I'm sure were violated here.
Is there any investigation into Farah violations?
If it was a Republican there would be and never mind the fact that uh we have just coming out in the Daily Mail today um Hunter saying set up your phone so I can spy on you when you shower.
He actually threatened to withhold a cash strapped assistance pay if she didn't FaceTime him naked according to these texts in the Daily Mail that they revealed today as it's revealed she's the fourth employee that he had a sexual relationship.
There is nothing Sean in Hunter Biden's history that I can tell that you know of that knows of that would make him this valuable there's nobody giving him eighty three thousand dollars a month because he's such a great guy.
There's nobody you know sending him three and a half million dollars from the mayor's office in Moscow because he's an amazingly intelligent and and he can maybe do something of value for them.
There is nothing that he can possibly offer them that would be worth five dollars much less one point five billion from oligarchs in China.
Oh and he happened to fly over on on Air Force Two with his father I guess his father didn't realize that he went with him.
At the end of the day this is all about access to Joe Biden.
You know that everybody listening knows that and Joe Biden knows that.
The problem is we've got a jer we've got a journalism community that wants to ignore it.
I don't know if they're getting paid off too I have no clue why they would ignore it.
But we also have a DOJ that we have known guys we've known that they've been corrupt since nineteen seventy three when Woodward and Bernstein who couldn't uh report their way out of a wet paper bag were handed the story about Nixon from the number two guy in the FBI.
We've known how corrupt they are since nineteen seventy three think about that it hasn't gotten any better it's gotten larger it's gotten more expensive and it's gotten even worse as far as picking and choosing who it is that they're going to go after to enforce the law and who it is that they're going to ignore and the the the answer that we need and we're not going to get it today probably is why are they complicit with the left?
Why do they turn a blind eye to the left?
Why can't they be blind like we thought justice would be reminds me as it as it relates to Hunter you know the scene in in Gladiator where Marcus Aurelius is offering Maximus upon my death you will empower Rome to be its great self its former self a republic and are you not Maximus are you not are you not are you not grateful for this great honor that I am offering you with all my heart no.
That is why it must be you Maximus what about Commodus his son you have known since your youth he is not a moral man.
It can't be Commodus pretty good right in uh Gladiator that's interesting.
All right wise ass go ahead because at that point uh he's dying right and his voice is starting to go and Russell Crowe standing over the over the bed I ever tell you my dog is named Maximus because of the Russell Crowe character in that movie I've interviewed Russell so he's a delightful person.
Alright but the point is I mean Marcus Aurelius describing his son Commodus is kind of like forget about Joe, but I mean he's describing Hunter Biden to the T. Yes.
And he is the reason why Joe Biden has not announced that he's running for re election in 2024 yet.
Remember that was supposed to come after the Christmas break.
He's going to sit down with his family we're told and then he would come to a decision and now it's not going to happen that decision apparently until after the State of the Union because of the drip drip drip around these documents.
And and we've seen what's happened right whether it be Pence whether it be Trump whether it be Biden apparently documents have a way of getting out of the White House or getting out of skiffs that senators go into.
Vice presidents have access to them and they take them out.
So I I think all that kind of cancels out on some level.
I think the big question now, Sean, is what is in the classified documents, particularly as it pertains to the current sitting president, because if he's compromised by China, our biggest adversary, or Russia, or Ukraine for that matter, because they're getting But But Joe Kancha, answer your own question.
How is it even remotely possible that they're not compromised?
Take the other side of this.
Tell me how it's possible.
Are they paying what?
The 67 million dollars in one push to the Penn Biden center, the majority of money's nearly 50 million of that going to the Penn Biden Center, or the 14 million they gave the university after that point.
So the total is close to like 81 million dollars.
And then you have professors lobbying Merrick Garland so that an espionage investigation gets stopped, and in fact, Merrick Garland stopped it in February of 2022.
The answer is follow the money.
And if the money is followed in this situation, then it's very difficult.
Impossible to come to the conclusion that the Biden aren't compromised.
The press knows it, the Democratic Party knows it, and that's why so many people don't want him to run for re-election again, because this is only going to keep coming out, particularly now that there's a Republican Congress led by Kevin McCarthy who's going to investigate this when Nancy Pelosi.
Well, he's investigating it, but they're stallwalling it to death.
I still think it's going to be Gavin Newsom.
Do either of you agree with that?
I think Gavin Newsom thinks it's going to be Gavin Newsom, but he's got more baggage than the Biden family has.
That guy's been a horrible governor.
You can't paint him in a bright enough light to cover up how bad California is failing right now, Sean.
I mean, it's just it's disgusting.
It's a beautiful state.
The people there are suffering.
You've got homeless encampments up and down the road everywhere you go.
I don't know in what world Gavin Newsom thinks he's the guy.
But then again, I think the three of us can make an argument that Joe Biden shouldn't have been the guy in 2020.
So at the end of the day, I'd like to know who's running the whole thing.
Who wanted Joe Biden to win the presidency?
And who is it that's leaking these documents that he has them all over the place?
Because they obviously want them out of the way.
And I'll give you a hint, it's not a Republican.
I I have the same suspicions.
I don't have any proof, but I have suspicions that this was by design.
Quick break more with our friends Joe Peggs and Joe Concho on the other side, then your calls 800-941 Sean if you want to be a part of the program.
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Uh last question, we have 10 seconds.
Joe Concha, who will be the Democratic nominee in 24?
That is an excellent question.
And I only have about six seconds left.
So you know what?
I'm gonna I'm gonna do something pretty remarkable here.
I'm gonna say I don't know.
I just don't know.
Well, nobody knows.
Give us give us your best guess for crying out loud.
Gavin Newsom and the bumper sticker will be I'll do to America what I did to California.
You can't lose.
You can't lose then.
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Uh Michelle Michigan Michelle says on my screen you are one of America's great farmers.
Is that true?
That is correct.
What do you farm Michelle?
I'd love to know uh soy beans, corn, wheat and that kind of stuff.
And then we do raise our own uh chickens for eggs and meat birds and that kind of stuff.
By the way, people I read today are buying chickens because of the high price of eggs and they're they'd rather get their own eggs.
Um how many acres do you farm every year?
Uh eighty.
Okay.
So you I would say that is uh look it's massive to me but that is considered a small farm, right?
That is correct.
Okay.
But you still have to pay uh a fortune for fertilizer, a fortune for you know all the other materials that you need.
Seed is more than doubled, tripled in some cases and then if you need spare parts for the equipment that you need to do your farming uh they're a hard to come by and B, if you find them you're gonna pay two, three, four times what you would usually pay.
Is that correct?
That is correct.
So what am I missing?
How hard is it now?
Are you making ends meet?
Um both of us have full time jobs outside of farming to make and we do raise on chickens to sell eggs and I had to raise my price from three dollars to four dollars and this what I want your listeners that think that by the way if you send them to me for five dollars I can sell them for ten and I'll give you all the profit.
Honestly I because I eat a lot of eggs every day.
I eat four three, four, five eggs a day well maybe after I'm done you'll have to get with m your screener and we'll maybe get something worked out here.
No, I'm sorry you're struggling.
I mean it's sad to me that you know you never I assume you never had to take on spare jobs in the past that the farm would sustain you and your family.
Is that a fair assumption?
Yeah it would um but but like you know diesels triple fertilizers triple everything so you just can't no one can really unless they're running thousands of acres they have to work because they can't afford to not work right now.
Yeah I mean that's sad to me because I mean farming is is really become a science and we have mastered the science of farming because of great innovation and technology and and you know now people like you that work hard and it is not an easy gig being a farmer.
What time you get up every day?
Oh in the summer a lot earlier than we do because it's winter right now so there's not much to do.
So probably five in the morning you're done at sunset, right?
Pretty much.
Yeah, I mean, that's just a shame.
Anyway, what else is, what do you think about, what should people know about the price of eggs?
Because you're offering it at a really reasonable rate, at least where I live, it would be, you know, I'd have a run on eggs if I had all your eggs.
Well, people need to understand, if they want to get into the business of getting eggs, even at $9 a dozen, you're actually better off buying them that way because just the startup cost is probably $2.
two thousand dollars and when you get a chick which I heard they went up from two dollars last year to five fifty this year.
It takes twenty four weeks of feeding them before they lay their first egg.
So you have maybe I'll buy some chicks from you and build and build a I don't know chicken coop in my backyard.
What do you think?
Well I gotta get a rooster first okay we'll get you a rooster uh to throw in listen it's it's uh on the one hand it's a big source of protein like every other day one day I'll have three eggs just regular eggs the next day I'll have four maybe five depending on the size of the eggs uh just egg whites so I mix it up you know because I'm mostly a a keto friendly diet paleo diet is what I'm mostly stick to.
I I'm not a hundred percent.
And it just it's awful for people.
Now I can afford it.
I'm I'm blessed, Michelle, but I remember the days when I couldn't afford to go to McDonald's.
And that was a number of years of my adult life.
It wasn't fun and and struggling to make my rent every month.
That wasn't fun either.
And then to hear the people that feed all of us have to struggle because your story is not unique among farmers.
It's actually the the typical quintessential story that is now the reality of farming and I think a lot of people are going to end up bailing out on farming and saying they've had enough and they'll probably sell out to developers which they mostly never want to do and you know and move on with something else that they're not as passionate about.
Yeah we probably will never sell out the land in my husband's family since 1875 so that's something we would never sell.
Even if we had to quit farming we would just keep the land does that make sense.
The only hope I could give you is this and I know this is probably tough this year's probably going to be tougher than next year.
At some point though, hopefully Americans will wake up will make the political changes that are needed and then give it another year beyond that and hopefully things will start to settle down.
That's my hope.
And but if Americans don't wake up and if states don't wake up and Republicans don't wake up to matching and even surpassing the ballot harvesting that goes on legally in all these states then I'll tell you right now it's going to be a problem you know for everybody.
The country won't get back on track and that'll that'll be a disaster.
Absolutely we appreciate what you do Michelle God bless you.
Call us anytime anything we could ever do let us know okay.
Andrew's in West Virginia andrew how are you?
Glad you called afternoon how are you doing sir?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Well you know I I I guess listening yesterday I it's probably probably my helicopter ears are probably getting in my way but seems to me that there seems to be a lot of opinion that we need to get out of Ukraine and not try to force Putin to act like a human being but I I think we need to consider the fact that Ukraine right now is like the broken glass model of New York City.
You know, you treat this small stuff now or else we're going to be fighting in Europe again.
And 30 years in the army, I don't want to do it again.
I got to tell you something.
The way this whole thing has been handled has been a disaster because we don't have a president that knows how to lead.
The president should have immediately met with NATO allies, Western European allies, and should have told them what is at stake here.
This is their backyard, and we're tired of paying the bulk of money to defend NATO and Western Europe, and they need to step up.
And if they're going to decide to help Ukraine, which they decided to.
a year ago then they've got to use overwhelming force and all they have done is buy Putin time to now reconfigure his war strategy and and now we see what the result is now we have Zelensky asking for everything and then some and I'm just at some point I'm not willing to support I'm not the American people number one can't afford it.
Number two it's already become a quagmire because of how they've how poorly they've handled it and it it's it's Western Europe's problem and they're not willing to step up to the extent is needed and therefore that's on their that's on them.
We're not the world's policeman this is not a member of NATO we're talking about and by the way speaking of NATO if uh the Turkish uh dictator Erdogan is going to threaten Sweden and Finland's entry into NATO I'll take Sweden and Finland and we can throw out Turkey because they've been a useless NATO ally anyway.
They've been unhelpful any time we've ever needed them and they're becoming less so every day.
So they want to align themselves with the radicals they want to thread the needle and act like they can play both sides I'm sick of their games.
I I disagree at all.
I mean but at some point at what point does it become everybody's problem I mean because China is following Putin I mean with absolute certainty they're going to do if we don't take care of Putin hopefully not by ourselves hopefully Europe gets off their buttons what else do you want us to do?
Joe decided that he would bear the brunt and the fiscal burden of being the biggest funder to the Zelensky.
And Congress went along with it.
Had they fought the war to win the war, it would have been over by now.
Absolutely.
100% agree.
So so now we gotta go back in and trust the same people that screwed it up the first time and say, here, here's here's hundreds of billions of of more dollars.
Uh yeah, go ahead, but you better get it right this time.
And you're gonna have confidence they'll get it right.
I don't have confidence in them.
I don't I don't but the fact is if if a tank, if an Abrams tank keeps a young American man or woman out of Ukraine and fighting Russia, I'm all we're not going to new Ukraine.
I would I absolutely not.
Now one American boot should be on that ground.
Period, ever.
And frankly, I think it's up to Europe now.
They should step up.
They have their militaries, they have their equipment, and if they want to protect their backyard, they ought to lead the way.
And unless and until they step up to the extent that is needed to beat Putin, then you know what?
As far as I'm concerned, we're throwing good money after bad.
I I totally agree.
And if we had a president that had a backbone, he'd be forcing Europe, as we had with the previous president, Mr. Trump, we would not be in the situation.
But we are, and we have to deal with it.
Well, we are dealing with it, and what they keep doing is throwing money at it, and the money obviously has not been enough to win the war.
And it's just it now Putin has bought enough time, is paying enough people.
My you know, I'll tell you what my greatest hope is is that one of his generals does the right thing and says you're out of power.
I I would agree, but Russian spring is upon us, and when it happens, that all it's all gonna break loose over there.
Listen, I don't doubt it at all.
I'm worried I feel horrible for the Ukrainian people.
Many have left and gone to other European countries, and they're building new lives there.
Uh, you see, even you know, Soviets that have been drafted, they're leaving in droves.
They want no part of this.
And you know, the the real look, how do you say this in a nice way?
I know our country has an executive order against targeting world leaders.
The problem here is one man who dreams of building back the Soviet Empire, and that's Vladimir Putin.
And you just gotta kind of hope that the people around him see the carnage, the the evil, the damage, the destruction, the death that Putin is inflicting on innocent people as he targets innocent men, women, and children and infrastructure.
I don't even know if there's going to be a country to rebuild by the time Putin is done destroying the infrastructure, targeting apartment complexes, schools, hospitals.
He's doing it all.
Indiscriminate bombing and and terrorizing of Ukrainian citizens.
That is the heartbreaking part.
You know, the other sad part is that the West doesn't seem to recognize evil when it's right in front of their eyes.
And rather than take it on head on, knowing what they're dealing with and and fighting to win, they go in the direction of, okay, we'll give you some help.
Not enough help to win, uh, enough help for a stalemate.
A stalemate, you know, leads to nothing but a protracted conflict, which this is now becoming.
And I don't think the American people are are gonna tolerate it, and I don't blame them.
Europe failed here.
Anyway, good call, my friend.
Appreciate it.
All right, quick break right back.
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Mississippi David on the Sean Hannity Show.
Good afternoon, Sean.
Thanks for taking my call.
Thank you.
What's going on?
Uh we'll talk about the Tyree Nichols case just for a moment.
Uh first of all, I am pro police officers.
Uh I believe they overall do a great job in protecting and serving us.
It's tragic of what happened to Mr. Nichols, that should have never happened.
Uh but also there's one thing I think that we're not addressing in uh I know everybody wants to talk about proper training for law enforcement, but another thing that we're not looking at is society.
Uh A lot of people in society do not want to obey or do what the police officer instructs them to do when they're instructed to do it.
You know, here's the difference, though, and I and I've heard this point from a lot of people, and you're not wrong.
I mean, Tyree, when they were saying lay on your stomach, lay on your stomach, he should have complied.
He said, I didn't do anything, I didn't do anything.
And and but the police officers showed zero patience.
In that instance, they have all the power.
They are the professionals, they're the ones trained, and they should expect that during any arrest.
They had five trained, so-called trained police officers, and they couldn't get this young man cuffed.
That to me is a far bigger problem than the fact that he was half-laying on his stomach, turning around and lifting his head up.
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