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Mike Pompeo - January 23rd, Hour 3
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So I I really can tell you that thanks to all of you listening to this radio show and 700 Station Strong now, watching the TV show, that I I found my passion the first day I ever got behind a radio microphone.
First day, it was it.
I was done.
My life was over.
If I had to pick a life of somebody that I know that uh that I am just I admire so much and would want to live myself, it would be Mike Pompeo's life.
We first met when he was a congressman.
Uh we met, I I've never had been to Langley before when he was the CIA director, and he was very gracious to let me go over and see Langley, which was pretty cool.
Um, you know, you just everything you see in a Jason Bourne movie, basically.
And then he became Secretary of State at a very critical point in American history, you know, dealing with the likes of uh, you know, Little Rocket Man and Vladimir Putin and President Chi and all his life experiences, our paths have crossed many, many times.
I I was in Helsinki, I was in Vietnam, I was in Singapore, and uh I've known him since he's a congressman.
He's also a dear friend.
He may be running for president, we'll ask him in a second.
But uh he wrote a book, and I really have started it, and I really can't put it down.
It's never given inch, fighting for the America that I love, and it talks a lot about the experiences that he's had, both the CIA director and secretary of state, and his life is incredible.
Um, Mike Pompeo, uh, dear friend, welcome back to the program.
How are you, sir?
Sean, I'm doing great.
Thank you.
Thanks for those kind words.
Uh and and thanks for having me on to talk about my book.
What an incredible life you have led.
First of all, let me start with the CIA.
I'm if I could be a spy, I would love to be a spy.
I'm fascinated by that entire world.
And the thing is, you really can't tell me much of what you know about what's really going on in the world, can you?
Uh that a lot of that uh is quiet for a reason.
I I will say.
Um doesn't get it right every day, but the men and women who are out there, you met them when you went out to Langley.
These are Patriots trying every day to just uh be free to put a uh a dagger in their teeth and get out and protect America.
And so it was a wonderful opportunity to lead them to take risks alongside of them and to deliver really good intelligence for the president of the United States of America.
At the time, President Trump was an America first president.
President Trump had made a commitment to get out of long protracted conflicts abroad.
Uh both, by the way, uh everything that he had promised he he fulfilled.
He defeated the ISIS caliphate, which I don't think he got enough credit for.
Um, and he did it systematically.
You got to you were there.
You've met Kim Jong-un, you've met Vladimir, you've met President Xi, you discuss all of this in the book.
Let's talk a little bit about the people, the the evil actors on the world stage, all three of the ones that I've mentioned, I would view as hostile regimes, hostile actors.
Um you didn't really have the best words to say for any of them.
Let's start with Vladimir Putin.
You said he can be funny.
He's funny.
Uh look, he's a trained KGB agent.
Uh he knows exactly what he's doing.
I've been criticized for saying he's smart.
Uh, but you know, Sean, we have to respect our adversaries.
We'll have to love them, we don't have to like what they're doing, but you can't call ISIS the JV because you're gonna get people's heads cut off.
Yeah, you said he's you said he's funny, but you also said he's evil, and you're right, he's evil.
Yeah, that's right.
He's evil.
And his intention to conquer Greater Europe has never wavered.
What wavered was his perception of American leadership, and for four years.
Uh we convinced Vladimir Putin that it wasn't worth the candle, right?
He takes Crimea in two thousand fourteen, two thousand fifteen.
He doesn't move on Europe for four years and then he goes back at it with President Biden.
Putin didn't change, American leadership changed, and in never give an inch.
I write about the tools we used of American power.
We didn't show we didn't send the eighty second airborne, we didn't send a marine division.
We used American power to protect and secure America.
One of the things that I found interesting is before you met him, it was clear he studied you, and that you know, on the reverse side of that, you studied him.
What when you're preparing for a summit like that or meeting like that with you know one of our biggest geopolitical foes.
Um what does that entail?
Oh goodness, I did.
I spent uh would have been a couple of months preparing for my first meeting with him, trying to learn everything we know.
Uh who's met with him before in the book I talk about the fact never given a ticket, but the fact that uh Dennis Rodman was the American record holder for spending time with Chairman Kim.
He coached the North Korean basketball team, and so we read what he had told us about his visits.
We read the histories about Chairman Kim's childhood, he studied in Switzerland, and then all that the intelligence committee had been able to collect so that we had as good an understanding of how he thought about his country so that we could deliver for ours.
So when you you meet with Putin, you know he's calculating, you know at times it was a tense discussion, at other times it was more lighthearted.
I know you can't get into specifics for national security concerns, but what can you tell us?
So Putin was a special difficult case for us because the Trump administration lived under the Russia hoax for the first two and a half years of our time, right?
Where uh New York Times, Washington Post were out and uh Adam Schiff out telling this false narrative about Trump and everyone in his orbit being a Russian asset, and so the meetings with him were complicated by that fact.
Uh he was he was serious in his result, but he that we were different cats, that we were different from the presidents that he had dealt with previously.
And so I think his perception of risk was just really, really different.
Um he was talking to us.
Remember, we we have lots of places we come into contact with Russians.
We came into contact with them is Syria.
And when they crossed our red line and sent troops across the Euphrates River, we took out three hundred Black year soldiers.
I think those were the kinds of things that sent a message to Putin that said, This is not my moment.
And that's how you protect America and make it more prosperous without big adventurous American diplomacy.
You know, I'm often called a warmonger by folks on the left.
The truth is we were just the opposite of that.
We built out a peace regime in the Middle East and in Asia and in Europe that served us well.
And for four years we had no new war, Sean.
We took down the California was a pretty successful run.
Let me let me go into the the issues involving him.
Did you uh were you surprised by Ukraine and his invasion?
And here's my analysis, and it's based in part on what sources have told me, my own observations and my own, you know, reading of press reports.
I got the sense that Donald Trump spoke so freely to Putin that you know he would say things, if you do A, I will do B, and B would be so it would be such a colossal, you know promise that I I think Putin was probably maybe taken aback.
Maybe there was only one percent of them that thought this guy might be crazy enough to do what he's saying.
It was and there was a certain fear factor with Trump.
Maybe if it was only one percent, maybe this guy's crazy enough to do something like that.
Was that real?
Sean, you have it largely right.
This is a classic Reagan deterrence model.
This is peace through strength.
And we delivered that.
And your your point is well taken.
The messages that we sent to the Russians weren't headlines in the newspaper, they were private conversations about the things we really cared about, the things that made a difference, things we were prepared to defend.
There are other things, you know, you all want to go do that?
Okay.
But on the things that mattered to keep Americans safe, we were pretty clear, and we told them what our expectation was and what uh the cost of that would be if he went down that path.
And I think that's why we were able to keep him in the box for our four years.
Including Ukraine.
You he we everybody knew at that time he had territorial ambitions for Ukraine.
Uh those conversations I assume came up in those meetings.
Absolutely.
No, you're Sean, you've got it exactly right.
Putin hasn't changed, right?
Your point about his territorial ambitions.
That is a throughout proposition for his whole life.
What changed was his perception of risk.
And when Biden says a minor incursion is okay or walks us out of Afghanistan, in the most humiliating way you can imagine with a loss of 13 American lives, Putin says this is my time.
And and you gotta worry about the impact.
How's how is the how is President Xi reading what's going on with Ukraine?
I'll get to that in a minute.
Let me talk a little bit.
I was there.
I actually saw you in Singapore.
I'm sure you don't remember, um, during the summit in 2018, and you were I was actually laughing.
Uh you may actually met little rocket man uh Kim Jong-un.
Uh you referred to him as small, sweating, evil dictator of North Korea, but you also studied him in terms of you know, crediting him that he was smart, savvy, ruthless.
And I remember at the time people were upset that Donald Trump was even meeting with him, and I I said, folks, what what did Donald Trump give Kim Jong-un?
Nothing except his time, but we got the remains of Americans from the Korean war back.
Uh he stopped firing his missiles every other day, and a relationship developed, and the world in that sense was a little safer because of a rapport that was built.
Uh to me, it was uh a brilliant strategy.
Absolutely brilliant.
Um and well executed too in never given in the book.
I talk about the three hostages we got back as well, Sean.
That too, yeah.
Yeah, in the in the front of the book, we actually have a statement from one of the hostages in his own words.
He thought he was being released.
He shows up at the tarmac and there is this beautiful white over blue American aircraft with a American seal on it.
Uh this is American power.
We didn't Sean, we didn't apologize, we didn't pay a penny, and we got those three Americans out.
No, our uh the policy there worked, it delivered for the American people, and it reduced an awful lot of risk here at home.
And Trump joked that Elton John's song Rocket Man was a great song, and he really meant it as a compliment.
That was hilarious.
Yeah, Chairman Kim saw it right through that.
Um he he had his own response.
Uh what I vaguely remember him saying something along the lines of uh you know, Rocket Man okay, little Rocket Man not okay.
Which is pretty good.
So I would argue, and correct me if you think I'm wrong, that America's number one geopolitical foe today is China.
Uh that's what concerns me so much about the Biden's and the family business and the bit 1.5 billion dollar deal with the Bank of China, uh a deal on sending natural gas to China, uh a five uh million dollar no interest forgivable loan.
I'm sure you would love those terms yourself.
And everybody listening would.
That deal, Sean.
Yeah, you can't get that deal.
Um so but you really you you referred to what did you say about President Shi that he was dour?
Um just kind of dead-eyed to you, I think is the term you used.
Yeah, he was of all the senior leaders I met with, um, he was the most difficult to penetrate.
He had this, he had a blank space, he was uh difficult and nasty in every conversation.
There were no there were no light moments in my conversations with him.
It was it was all serious, and he always had this chip on his shoulder.
I think he understood deeply that our model was a superior model, but he was determined to try and make America be a nation in decline, and you could read that and feel that in every it it oozed from him every time I met with him.
Well, apparently he made a call to Trump demanding you get fired over comments you made about COVID.
Yeah, that's that's exactly right.
My comments were actually about the Chinese Communist Party more broadly.
Uh, but on a phone call in uh the time the COVID was wearing its ugly hat here in America, he just railed on me.
And uh he would have probably known I was on the call.
The call was between the two leaders, but he would have known I was on the call and uh when when the call ended, uh President Trump called me back and said, That effing guy hates you.
And uh Which I I I uh By the way, that's a badge of honor.
I like that.
Maybe so, but in any event, uh it was as close as I think as I've ever come as I came to get fired shot.
Uh you got a little bit of revenge.
You posted uh uh a picture, quote, what you describe as a completely innocent photo of his dog cuddling uh a well-chewed Winnie the Pooh toy.
Uh yeah.
Yeah.
He doesn't like the fact he's been compared to that he looks like Winnie the Pooh.
And so uh we have two two sh uh golden retrievers and one of them had a Winnie the Pooh puppy, and I just thought, boy, that's uh that's funny to watch my dog play so and put it up on Twitter.
It was uh uh it was a little bit fun.
I had my own uh discussions with Dennis Rodman and he gave me some insights into Little Rocket Man 2.
Let me talk about just real quickly the state of the world as you see it today.
I I think I speak for a lot of conservatives, and I'm angry that our Western European and NATO allies don't do most of the contributing as it relates to Ukraine.
That's in their backyard.
It's not our backyard.
And I know conservatives are angry because it doesn't seem like we're fighting that war to win it, and we're paying the bulk of money.
And why doesn't why doesn't NATO, why doesn't Western Europe why don't they understand this is a existential threat to them?
The video tape from I think it was the spring of eighteen, or maybe it was the fall of two thousand eighteen, with President Trump and I sitting the NATO leadership demanding that they defend themselves, right?
That they don't depend on Russian gas.
We we told them time and time again this is gonna end badly.
We wouldn't we wouldn't have known exactly how, but we've got forty years of we say Europe.
Really, France and Germany, the two big economies there under investing in their own defense, and you can see this coming back to kick them in the head now.
As for the the conflict, uh there's there's only one way we're gonna stop the killing that's taking place there.
There's only one way we're gonna prevent the continued uh ratcheting up of pain on Europe, and that just means we're gonna have to provide the the Ukrainians the tools they need to actually achieve an outcome that is permanent and lasting.
All right, I got uh I want to hold you through the break if you can give me just a couple of minutes here.
Um the book is phenomenal.
I really only have two big questions for you.
You know what one of them is.
So uh we'll get to Mike Pompeo on the other side.
His new book is out, Never Give an Inch, Fighting for the America I Love, uh Hannity.com, Amazon.com, bookstores everywhere.
Uh, and uh we'll get to more more with the uh former secretary on in a minute.
Uh we'll be coming back Mike Pompeo.
I have a few more questions for him on the other side.
He's worked in the CIA, he's worked in Congress, and he's worked at Secretary of State.
I want to get his thoughts on the issue of a deep state.
Does it exist?
How does it how do we deal with it in the end?
And the investigations obviously going on by Jim Jordan and Jim Comey.
Uh also is he running for president?
A lot of speculation he might be.
We'll talk to him about that and much more on the other side as we continue.
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I said two questions, but I'm going to invoke talk show host privilege here and make it three more questions.
Former secretary of state, former CIA director, former congressman Mike Pompeo is with us.
He's got a great new book out.
Gives you a lot of insight into the foreign policy adventures, you might want to call them during the Trump years.
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First question is the obvious one.
There's been a lot of talk, speculation you may be running for president.
Are you thinking about it?
I am, Sean.
Susan, my wife Susan and I are praying trying to figure out if this is the right time and we're the right folks to lead the country forward.
We'll get to it long, and then if we decide we're going to go do it, we'll head to Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina and begin to make the case to the American people.
I had it's to me it's a little early to be talking about 2024.
I feel like we just got out of an election cycle, but um I asked Nikki Haley on Friday a question, I'll ask you the same one.
So both of you work for President Trump.
President Trump was the only announced candidate.
And my question is where do you see differences between Trump policies, America First, Make America Great Again policies versus your policies?
What's different?
Goodness, a lot of them would be in the space I wasn't operating in, Sean.
It would be in uh the the way we think about uh the American economy.
Uh we we need to uh we the Trump administration spent an awful lot of money.
We're now 32, 31 trillion dollars in the hole.
And so there is a lot of work to fix that.
Uh our our kids and our grandkids will live in a very different America if we keep blowing two trillion dollars in debt on top of the United States every year.
On national security issues, um there there are uh a whole lot of differences in terms of how I would deliver.
Uh, but I do think it's really important that we speak to the American people about it in a way that was different than we sometimes did in the Trump administration.
All right, so let me ask you this, because I think this is very, very important.
Um look, primaries are gonna be primaries, whoever gets in gets in, and at the end of the day, it's gonna be up to Republican voters.
Here's a question that I I think you would probably be the most able to answer, but I'm not sure if you can.
And I believe that we now have an FBI, sadly, that's been politicized.
I'll give you two quick examples in a DOJ that's weaponized.
In 2016, Bruce Orr warned everybody not to trust the dossier that it was a political document and it wasn't verified.
That was in August of 2016.
In early October of 2016, the FBI sent agents abroad to meet with Christopher Steele, the author of the bought and paid for Russian dossier that has now been debunked, as you know.
And they were never able to give him a million dollar bounty that they offered him.
So by the end of October, uh, they use the bulk of information in the FISA application to spy on Carter Page and backdoor their way into the Trump campaign and then later presidency.
They use that document, and Andrew McCabe, the deputy FBI director, even said without the dossier, they never would have had the Pfizer Warren approved.
My question is is simple.
And then in 2020, you know, we know big tech companies were meeting weekly with FBI representatives headed up by an agent that wrote a thesis in 2016 that Donald Trump how Donald Trump and Russia colluded for him to win in 2016.
So obviously there's a bias.
They gave Twitter three and a half million dollars, but they kept warning all these big tech companies.
Hey, be on the lookout for disinformation from foreign adversaries.
They might even talk about Hunter Biden.
And they mentioned that name, the head of the site Integrity at Twitter by the name of Mr. Roth, you know, testified to that case.
And what was it?
In a Missouri case, Eric Schmidt was running the case at the time.
So my question is, is there a deep state?
The answer to that, Sean is yes.
It's a little different than some folks think about it, but this is you have, and I I'll speak directly to the State Department.
I want to talk about the FBI stuff, but the State Department, you have State Department that doesn't execute the President's missions then.
They resisted nearly everything that we tried to do, whether it was the Abraham Accords or the strike on Costum Solomon.
The the list goes on.
They were they were their own little blob, their establishment blob, and that is deeply dangerous to the United States of America.
And so we've got a I I have a theory of the case on how one can fix this.
It would start with just being able to fire every single one of them if you needed to.
If they didn't do their job, just like you would do in your business, Sean.
You know, your your point on the FBI is a good one.
Uh in Never Give an Inch, I write about January 6th, 2017.
I I was still just a member of Congress, but I was the nominee to be CI director.
And when you read the story of what Clapper, Comey, and Brennan did to Donald Trump at Trump Tower that day, they basically called him in and briefed him and said, You're a Russian asset.
And they knew it wasn't true.
And there I was.
I was asked to be there because I carried a top secret security clearance because of my time on the uh House Intelligence Committee.
And I remember thinking you just undermined what the American people just voted for.
January 6th, 2017 was a seminal day as I watched really Comey and Clapper behave in ways that were unconscionable, and they knew it couldn't have been true.
But they kept signing them.
I mean, you know, they've since had hearings where everyone that signed signed on to the FISA application that was we now know was unverifiable because it was never true.
They all walked.
There were no consequences for anybody.
It it's unbelievable.
The fact that McCabe, who even the FBI said lied, hasn't been held accountable, is deeply un-American.
This this this, I hope I hope Congress will get after this.
I hope Kimmy Jordan and his team will get after this the same way he and I chased down uh Hillary Clinton on Benghazi.
The American people at the very least need to know what their FBI did under the leadership of Director Comey.
I to me, I think we're at the point where it's sort of like where we have to have a church committee.
You know, one of the things I've always enjoyed, we've had a good friendship relationship.
I I had no hesitancy asking you if I had a doubt about a certain person and if you could give me guidance and you would always tell me the truth.
If you if you could.
You could there were occasions you could.
Absolutely.
No, no.
Every time I could.
Absolutely.
No, our we we need our government to be responsive, not political.
And we we saw Brennan did the same thing out at CIA.
He made it political.
He he knew the steel dossier shouldn't have been included in that report, and he bypassed, and I write about this and never given it.
He bypassed the analytical process to do that.
Uh this is inconsistent with how leaders should behave, and all of them are out now making money, talking on top shows, continuing to uh proffer their lies to the American people.
Is there any truth to this notion, this idea, and we've had people in the intelligence community on the show that make an allegation that there is all these databases, the accumulation of all data, every text, every email, every phone call, uh data mining and and and saving all this stuff.
Is that really happening or is that total BS?
Sean, uh the the substance of phone calls, all that I I saw I never saw in either role, I never saw anyone that was collecting what you're describing there, right?
Which is that they could sort of replay every phone call from two, five, ten years ago.
I never saw any evidence of that.
Mike, it's a fascinating book.
What a I'm not kidding, what a great life you've led, and I know you're just Beginning, but uh Mike Pompeo's new book, Never Give an Inch, Fighting for the America I Love.
Uh we really appreciate your time.
I appreciate your friendship.
Thank you.
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
Have a good day.
You too.
It's on Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores everywhere.
Uh isn't that a fascinating what a life.
Wouldn't you love to be in the room of Putin and Chi and and Kim Jong-un and Little Rocket Man and and know all of our nation's secrets?
I'd love to know all that.
I'm gonna take a hard pass on that and say I'm so glad it was Pompeo and not me.
I'm all set with not being in that room.
That sounds like it just sounds I mean I think it takes a very special person to walk into that room and to be calm and to be collected and understand that you are meeting with the enemy and that there is a greater means to an end, and that you get, you know, you get more bees with honey at the end of the day, right?
Well, I mean, I think what I said at one point is you know, conveyed to me through a different sources is that Donald Trump was no holds barred.
Donald Trump said, You do this, I'm gonna do that.
And what that was was usually extreme.
Well, what did Reagan always say?
Peace through strength.
Yeah.
Nobody's afraid of us right now.
But that was the whole point.
I think that and you know, one of the things that I would say is an asset that maybe some people look at as as a deficit for Trump is that there's a certain level of he might be crazy enough to do that.
And I don't think any other president in the modern era, short of Reagan, had that strength, had that ability to create that strength.
Well, if you do it, I'm just gonna have to respond in kind, and I and l look at me.
I mean what I say.
I will do it.
Well, I think also in the case of of some of two of the people that we're talking about right now, they had private business, they had private lives, they had lives before they were politicians.
You know, you have somebody like Joe Biden who has literally been a politician for 48 years of his life and has accomplished absolutely nothing.
Then you look at Trump, whether you like him or not, who was a very accomplished businessman and knew how to negotiate, and I'm sure at times he was ruthless, and other times he was a mitigator, and he played whatever role needed to be played to get the deal done, hence the art of the deal.
Yeah.
Well said.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
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Andrew's in the free state of Florida.
A lot of Florida calls today.
What's up, Andrew?
How are you?
Hey, great, John.
Hope you are.
Thank you for your service.
I know it's a fashion for you, so I know you work your time off, but you do a fantastic job.
I'm glad it's your passion.
But uh last week you were talking about the World Economic Forum, son.
You know, it's such a big group of you know, gazillionaires.
And the only thing that I feel like I can do, I look at the companies that are involved with that.
I absolutely boycott them.
I don't buy uh they don't get a cent from me.
And that's the only thing that I feel like I can do to try to knock a hole in in them a little bit, you know, to knock them down a a notch.
And if everybody did it, maybe they'd get start getting uh the message.
But um boycott, boycott, boycott on people that are funding all of these crazy policies.
So that was one comment that I wanted to make.
And the other is these people like uh Mike Pompeo was talking about Adam Schiff, these outright there's falsehoods.
There's got to be some consequence for that, you know.
You get ejected from the Senate.
You're you're not just censored, but something's gotta happen.
And it just blows my mind that that people can say complete falsehoods, and it just gets sucked under the rug and nobody does it.
I mean it's uh you know you can vote.
But well we're getting some work done now.
I I kept telling everybody, well, one, I did not have the exuberance uh attack that many had about the midterm elections.
I I've been very dubious about how elections are being run by Democrats, and I'm now saying it loudly, and I want everyone to hear me, unless Republicans match what the Democrats are doing in terms of elections, both in raising money for the negative ads, and number two, investing in the ballot harvesting operations that 49 states allowed by law and following the law, unless we do and match and do it better than the the Democrats.
You can say goodbye to winning a lot of races we thought we should win.
But secondly, I didn't and uh and you gotta give up your reluctance to voting earlier by mail.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah, we we can't uh we know what they do, and we gotta fight just as we gotta fight harder than they do.
It's worth the fight.
Just want to say thanks for your service.
Uh thank you, sir.
Um You make this happen, not me.
I appreciate it.
It's my honor.
Uh oh no.
You know, Mo the Liberal.
How did you get on TV?
How did you get through?
Who put you through?
Who you know, that was done just to mess with me.
How are you, sir?
I called Sean.
I dialed that number.
Sometimes I get lucky.
I'm a very lucky man.
You're luckier right.
Lucky little.
I bet you live in a rent-controlled apartment, don't you?
I live in the senior citizens apartment in Brooklyn, named Bishop Boardman.
The bishop built 33 of them in Brooklyn during the 80s, and I'm glad to be here.
It's like winning the lottery, honestly.
Well, let me ask you, what do you pay for your rent every month?
If I may ask, you don't have to answer if you don't want.
My rent is $400 a month.
I live in Park Slope, Brooklyn.
Yes.
$400.
Do you know what the market rate is for your apartment?
How many bedrooms?
$500 is the top rent in this building.
Okay.
But but that's not my point.
How many bedrooms do you have?
I just have one bedroom.
They're all single senior citizens' apartments.
All right.
Now, do you know what that would rent for on an open market, free market?
You'd be paying $3,000, $4,000.
$100 a month up the block from me for a two-bedroom.
I know what this neighborhood is.
I grew up here, Sean.
I'm an expert on Brooklyn.
Yeah, and there you are on national television.
The last segment of our show we call Last Call, and we let one of the viewers have the last word.
And and you called me the most dangerous man in America yet again.
Where did that come from?
Well, Sean, uh you know, you have a very eloquent voice.
Your people who listen to you are sincere.
They're wonderful Americans.
But you know, Sean, we need a whole new approach here.
We don't need less people voting.
We need more people voting.
We need more pay for our workers.
So what if I wasn't in this building?
Where would I live?
In the street?
I don't want you in the street, but you know, I uh so what we have is taxpayers.
I mean, you've been an able body.
You worked your whole life, didn't you?
Yes, of course I did, but I couldn't afford to live in my hometown.
Well, I mean, sometimes if you can't afford I had this experience in life.
I had to live outside of whatever city I was in because I couldn't afford to live anywhere else.
Well, I got to be lucky, Sean.
My mother lived in this building for 38 years.
I sent in my application, and they called me to move in.
I am a lucky man.
And senior citizens need more help, not less.
Just I'm not I'm not really the pick.
I'm not mad.
I'm happy you're happy.
We love you, Mo.
God bless you, my friend.
I don't what am I supposed to say?
Of course I want Mo safe and secure.
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