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	At hour two, Sean Hannity show.
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	If you want to be a part of the program, uh, friends and colleagues of mine at the Fox news channel, um, They've been going through a lot lately.
	We lost one of our our top executive news people at 47 years of age and and he had a heart attack.
	Great guy.
	We have a Fox News meteorologist.
	He was literally pummeled by a group of teenagers in New York City Uh when he tried to stop them from harassing another another subway writer, strap hanger, as they call them, uh, on early Sunday, and uh they just beat the crap out of them.
	I mean, it's unbelievable, and uh it's sad, but it does it it's not the same when you have no bail laws and you have uh defund, dismantle the police, which is what New York City's become.
	Yeah, they're setting record crime every single year the last two years in a row.
	This seems to be open season.
	Um my friend and colleague Gian O'Caldwell, now he has a very unique story to tell.
	His brother was murdered in Chicago.
	He he sees what happens to his little brother, and he's like, I gotta get my family out of here.
	I've got I owe it to my family to save them.
	And so he spends a fortune and he packs up everybody in the family, and they moved to Florida to the Miami area.
	And he was asked to leave a restaurant in North Miami because, quote, he was told this conservative views don't align with the opinions of the owners of the restaurant.
	I think it's called uh Paradise Books and Bread in response.
	Giano said this situation reminds me of something that MLK said in 1963, a very simple truth.
	He said, injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
	And what I experienced yesterday, me and some of my neighbors, who I'm just getting to know is an injustice, a grave injustice.
	Anyway, he is a friend on top of everything else, but Fox News political analyst, and he joins us now.
	Gianna, I I wrote you this weekend when I saw when I saw this clip, and I'm like, I can't even believe what I'm reading and seeing here, and it's just so sad to me.
	You left Chicago after the death of your brother.
	You've been very outspoken.
	It's changed your life.
	You have now you you are now on a mission.
	I think it it's become a calling for you to save other people's lives in Chicago.
	You move down to a safer state by every measure, uh, and that's Florida, and then you go to a restaurant, you kicked out of the restaurant.
	I'm like, you gotta be kidding me.
	Yeah, Sean, I I gotta tell you that I am still shell-shocked based on what happened this past Saturday, and it's taught me many things since I had that experience, and that is one on the left, intolerance for some have become the norm, not the exception.
	On the left, that's what we're seeing.
	If you disagree with them in any way, ideologically, if you believe in conservative values, if you believe that God is our leader and our guy.
	That's something that upsets them.
	They dislike that.
	They despise that.
	They don't want you in their presence, they don't want you in their restaurant, they don't want your money.
	And I think a lot of folks have gone on social media to say exactly that.
	And I'll tell you what happened is it was my first time getting together with this group of individuals.
	They live in my building, two of them do.
	And they're And by the way, the reason you you paid a lot of money, you know, and you moved your entire family down there to get away from the violence in Chicago.
	I want to be very clear.
	After the death of your brother, you're an innocent victim of this this everyday violence in Chicago.
	Yes, my brother was murdered on June 24th in Chicago.
	And since then I moved, uh moved in my my baby brother, and I'm also uh moving some of my other family members is as well, my now youngest with a brother.
	So yes, that was a major life change, and and things are much better here in Florida in Miami than there are in Chicago or pretty much anywhere else in the country, per my experience.
	So I'm thankful that I did.
	I'm blessed that I have the opportunity to do so.
	So what happened on Saturday, I'm sitting meeting these folks, talking to these folks, and they're just interested.
	They're intellectually curious.
	How are things at Fox?
	How do you like working there?
	Are you a conservative?
	And I think that's a good thing.
	I like it, except this Hannity guy's a jackass.
	I don't like him.
	No, no, no.
	And I'm gonna tell you for the folks that are listening, Sean Hannity.
	I know you all listen to him every day on the radio.
	You you watch him on TV.
	I know it's not, but I'm gonna say it because what you did for me means so much.
	And I have to tell people this.
	This is one of the best human beings you can ever meet in your life.
	This is one of the best human beings you can have the the pleasure of calling a friend.
	When my brother was murdered, you have been there for me nonstop since June last year.
	We didn't have a relationship before.
	I've been on your radio program or your TV program, but since then, just guiding me, advising me, no matter the time or day, always available, and I cannot thank you enough.
	So I thank you for that, Sean.
	I think you're like, I appreciate your friendship to me, and getting to know you has been an honor for me.
	So this is this isn't about me.
	And it breaks my heart.
	Uh look, uh Gianno, I told you this in a note over the weekend.
	I said, I've I've had this experience that you went through.
	But it doesn't bother me anymore.
	I've been doing this too long.
	It makes me so angry though, when it happens to a friend rather than when it happens to me.
	I don't know why it makes me angry because i I I I feel like I've signed up for this.
	I give strong opinions, but what and what was so bad that you were talking about at this at this lunch?
	And that and that was and that was it, Sean.
	I'm I had they said, Hey, are you a conservative?
	I said, in fact, I am.
	I have a book out called Taken for Granted How Conservatism Can Win Back the Americans that liberalism failed.
	And I encouraged them to get the book.
	I began to talk to them about my brother.
	My brother was murdered on June 24th in Chicago.
	I'm thankful for Fox for giving me the platform to try to get justice for him and other families.
	I mentioned how I was in DC the week before, meeting with members of Congress on Capitol Hill, talking to them about my brother and other victims of violent crime in America, how they want me to really get involved and be the voice of victims.
	These were the things that we were talking about.
	I talked about progressive DAs, how they're exacerbating the issue of crime with these soft-one crime policies.
	Those are the things that made them so upset that the owner then came up to the table and said to us, I've been listening to your conversation, I don't like it.
	You are not welcomed here.
	And I said, Oh my gosh.
	I said, Did I do did I say something that triggered you?
	Because I'm the only one that had been alluding to my politics and talking about it.
	They just listen.
	She said, No, our politics just don't align.
	I'm the owner here.
	I don't feel comfortable.
	You have to leave.
	I stood up in the table and walked right out, and they walked behind me.
	This is not, this shouldn't be the case in anywhere in the country, let alone in Florida.
	There's some people a person will have the gall to put me out because I don't politically.
	It shouldn't happen anywhere, Gianno.
	And and here's the thing.
	You know, and and I said this even at the time that remember the birthday cake controversy.
	I'm like, somebody wants a birth a birthday or a wedding cake.
	I'm making them the cake.
	These people need to, you know, uh if I'm in business, I don't care if you're a liberal, a conservative, Republican, Democrat, independent, libertarian.
	I want you in my place, and I want to do the most business I can do.
	How stupid on their part.
	But it's sh I I mean, was the restaurant like reacting to it?
	Was there any other there was no reaction.
	It was literally us sitting at a table having a conversation.
	There were people, other people in the restaurant, but no one came up and said, I don't like what you all are talking about.
	We weren't uh crazy loud.
	We weren't loud at all.
	We had a conversation amongst ourselves, but this lady continued looking at me.
	And as you know, being a public figure, I'm always looking around the room because somebody could be taping, recording, or even trying to come to attack.
	So I don't know.
	So I'm always looking around, and the lady continued to give me nasty look throughout the entire time that we were there.
	But I didn't expect the to know that I would get this kind of response by saying, Yes, I'm a conservative.
	I have a book taken for granted.
	Pick it up.
	I didn't think that people would that this owner would take such offense to see a black man talking about conservatism, and it offends her so much that she has to kick me out of a restaurant.
	This, I believe, Sean, is a microcosm of a larger issue in America.
	There is an attack on freedom of speech, and there's absolutely an attack on conservatism, and especially if you choose to be a black person and being conservative in this country, there's a lot of people who will not like it, and there will be a target on your back.
	I know this, I realize this, and I saw it up close and personal on Saturday.
	Quick break more with Gianno Calwell, his new book Taken for Granted, how conservatism can win back the Americans that liberalism failed.
	Listen, um, if you believe in the sanctity of life, there's an incredible new group I want to tell you about.
	It's called Pre-Born.
	They don't get a penny from the federal government, and they're using science, the science of ultrasound, uh, to save babies' lives.
	Every day, pre-born is able to rescue 150 babies, and the way they do it through science and the especially ultrasounds today.
	I mean, you can see, you know, the features of a baby's face and their fingers and toes, and and you hear the heartbeat, and when people see that science, the majority of the time they choose life.
	They're dependent on you totally, no government money whatsoever.
	Uh the hope asking the pro-life community, people that believe in the sanctity of life.
	Uh it's $28 per ultrasound, and you can rescue a baby's life.
	Or 140,000 can save five lives.
	You can sponsor that uh if you have it.
	Whatever it is, their goal is ultimately to save 100,000 babies' lives through science.
	Anyway, it's a great group.
	I'm gonna I'm participating soon as well.
	Just dial pound 250, say the keyword baby, pound two fifty, keyword baby, and put your principles, you know, on the line here for a great cause.
	Uh all of your money goes straight to the work that they do, uh, 100% tax deductible.
	They have a website, also preborn.com slash Sean.
	All right, we continue with my friend from Fox, uh, Gian O'Coldwell is with us taking for granted as his book, how conservatism can win back the Americans that liberalism has failed, Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores everywhere.
	I want people to know about you and this book, and your book has taken off.
	We have uh, by the way, it's linked on Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores everywhere, uh, taken for granted how conservatism can win back the Americans that liberals failed.
	Um, you did not exactly have uh an ideal life with a silver spoon in your mouth.
	Uh, you know, when I found out you were born to your mom and your mom was consumed by drugs and you were raised by your grandmother, you were raised in poverty on the south side of Chicago, um, you see you have witnessed more growing up than most people ever see in ten lifetimes.
	And and then it then it impacts you directly by the loss of your brother.
	And I remember those early conversations we had about this and and how brokenhearted you were, but how you you you resolved in your heart to try to save other people's lives, and you have done a lot of work.
	Not only have you gone to Congress, you've met with John Walsh, John Walsh has supported your efforts, you have put pressure on the police department that has not at all times been cooperative and helpful.
	Uh it's a disgrace.
	And all these we know how to prevent death.
	Rudy Giuliani showed us the way in New York.
	They could do the same thing in Chicago.
	You know, I I run these names and scroll these names.
	Nobody seems to give a damn, Gianno.
	Yeah, no, I absolutely agree.
	They could change the dynamic, and there's a mirror's race next month, and I'm hoping the Chicagoans will make uh a better decision as to who to lead them, especially a mayor who's about law and order, because that's what we absolutely need in the city of Chicago, in Illinois, and in this country overall.
	In Chicago, crime is up over four overall, over 40%.
	That is not okay.
	You're seeing countless people who are being murdered, black bodies literally being littered in the streets of Chicago.
	This is absolutely unacceptable.
	And as you mentioned, when you talk about my book taking for granted how conservatism can win back the Americans that liberalism failed, I wrote that book, especially to give a testament to what God can do in any challenging situation.
	Yes, I grew up extremely poor, life and gas and water off at the same time.
	Mama did get the crack cocaine, but despite all of that, despite all of that, I've made it to where I am today is because God had his hand on me continuously.
	He's favored me.
	I rolled up my sleeve and I did a lot of the hard work starting at age 14 when I got in politics, but I cannot, I cannot say it enough that no matter how bad a situation can be in anyone's life, God can come in and change the entire landscape and clean you up to the point that people will never know what happened to you in your life.
	And I I want to commit that to people today.
	If you're you're looking for a way out of whatever situation you in, you're in, go to God.
	He'll have your answer for you every time.
	Amen.
	I I there are two things that have kept me sane in my life.
	The fact that I grew up in a working family and uh the my parents were constantly.
	Uh, you know, you know my my family background, and I work constantly from you know, being a paper boy at eight and a dishwasher every Friday, Saturday, Sunday night at twelve, and then a cook and all these jobs I've tell people about.
	But the more important thing is, you know, what are you thinking about in terms of how to deal with this?
	Do you just walk away from this?
	I know you've made it public.
	I'm glad people now in Miami know about this place.
	I know uh and know what went on there.
	Uh we're gonna try and get the owner of this restaurant to come on and explain himself.
	Because I think that's outrageous what they did to you.
	That would that would absolutely be good.
	And I'll tell you, what am I thinking about?
	I'm gonna let God lead the way as a as I should always in any situation like this.
	I've been looking at my social media accounts at Gianno Caldwell for anyone who may be interested and seeing the comments, the love, the support from the viewers, our viewers over at Fox News Channel, and just Americans across the country who may not even be conservatives, maybe they're Democrats, maybe they're independents, or whatever, but they know that wrong is wrong.
	And as Martin Luther King King said, injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
	If it would have been uh a conservative owner of a restaurant and some folks came in and they were they happen to be liberal, that would be wrong to put them out too, so long as they're not disturbing or or interrupting anyone, and we weren't doing that.
	We were respectful.
	That's why I even asked you.
	Did I say something that triggered you?
	Because I want to be respectful of your space and what you own, but they weren't respectful of me.
	They didn't think that I should even be allowed, be allowed to have my belief system, my ideology.
	Who are you to think you can be a black conservative?
	How dare you?
	You gotta get out of our space.
	This should never happen.
	And what I do for it, I'm gonna talk about on social media, but gotta certainly be in the plans and leading the way there, Sean.
	The one thing I can tell you is I I your life has in many ways out of such tragedy now, uh, taken on a purpose that is beyond inspiring.
	Uh I want to remind people about your book.
	It's called Taken for Granted, How Conservatism Can Wim Back the Americans that liberalism failed.
	Uh, Gianno Caldwell.
	We're gonna have more on Hannity tonight.
	We're trying to get the owner of this restaurant to come on and explain himself with you, and maybe talk it out with you.
	So we'll see you tonight on TV.
	I love you.
	You're a good man.
	I'm proud of you.
	I'm so sorry about all the pain that you've been through in the last year.
	Uh and uh, you know you always have uh an open mic here on this show and a camera on my TV show any time you want.
	I love you too, big brother.
	Thank you so much.
	Looking forward to seeing you tonight.
	All right, my friend, thank you.
	Gianno Caldwell.
	Taken for granted how conservatism can win back the Americans that liberalism failed.
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	So now we have uh five separate locations where Biden documents have shown up.
	And it's kind of amazing to watch the uh Democrats and they're now turning on Biden.
	It may go to my original theory.
	If you remember when this story first broke and it was one place and two places, I said the timing here is suspicious, especially with the new Congress, the investigations by the judiciary and Jim Jordan, uh, especially on the FBI being politicized, the DOJ weaponized, and then of course Jim Comer and the House Oversight Committee, his investigation into the Biden family syndicate, it seemed a little too convenient for me.
	Now they didn't do a full-on raid like they did Mar-a-Lago, but Justice Department officials were brought in uh this weekend.
	But that you know, watching the Democrats evolve, turn into pretzels, some outright turning on Biden, is very interesting to me.
	Listen to our little montage.
	President Biden's lawyers revealed that documents marked classified were found in office space that he used as a private citizen.
	This morning, ABC News has learned classified documents from President Biden's time as vice president have been found at an office he no longer uses.
	The White House revealed this weekend additional pages of classified documents were discovered inside the president's Delaware home.
	That search was completed last night, and now this is in the hands of the Justice Department.
	So we should assume that it's been completed.
	We should assume that it's been completed, yes.
	Wait, they completed uh the uh uh the search uh with documents being found last night.
	Now we turn to President Biden's handling of items marked classified.
	Even more were found at President Biden's house in Wilmington, Delaware, after the president's lawyers invited the FBI to search it on Friday.
	Some of those materials date back to Mr. Biden's synod days more than 14 years ago.
	When you saw the photograph of the top secret documents laid out on the floor at Mar-a-Lago, what did you think to yourself looking at that image?
	How that could possibly happen.
	And it's just uh totally irresponsible.
	President's attorney says the latest batch amounts to six more items with classification markings for now a total of between 25 and 30 documents, and it's a sign of how this investigation may continue to stretch out.
	A source familiar with the Pro Tell CBS News investigators are considering searching other locations.
	We're fully cooperating, looking forward to getting this resolved quickly.
	I think you're gonna find there's nothing there.
	I have no regrets.
	I'm following what the lawyers have told me they want me to do.
	It's exactly what we're doing.
	There's no there.
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	The music, it just sounds like uh it's just as perfect for the moment.
	Let's put it that way.
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	Eugene in Florida, the free state of Florida.
	What's going on, sir?
	Um I I'm a little astounded at the uh commotion being made about Biden having these documents.
	It it appears to me that nobody in government knows who has these documents, where they're at, how they're stored, what agency and the government's responsible for classifying and making sure that they're in safe hands, that they know exactly where they're at, where they're being stored, how they're being stored, who looks at them.
	It seems like this is only the tip of the iceberg of the documents situation in in government, and it's scary that we have all these loose documents lying around where anybody and his brother could get at them, and who knows what they would do with them.
	You know, the fact that they're the uh Biden's lawyers notified people that these documents existed is is uh is a credit to them because they could have easily just uh destroyed them, just like Hillary Clinton did.
	I mean, this is outrageous that the government has lost track of these sensitive documents.
	Look, I uh the only thing I can tell you is what I know, and this is happened.
	Now, Hillary's was far more deliberate.
	The deletion of thirty-three thousand emails, bleach bit, hammers destroying devices, removal of of SIM cards, etc.
	That was all deliberate.
	Uh the sheer volume of classified top secret materials on her server were enormous.
	Uh and that was more cynical.
	Now, when a president leaves office, uh now Donald Trump as president had the ability to declassify anything he wanted to declassify.
	There is no set process to do such.
	And people said made fun of an interview I had with him.
	He said, I could think about uh all right, these are declassified, that's declassified, and it's done.
	There's nothing specifically laid out in the law that he had to do or anybody that he had to tell.
	Um, but putting all that aside, you know, they had access to Mar-a-Lago.
	How do we know?
	Because the FBI was in the room where ultimately when they raided Mar-a-Lago, the documents were, and that's the same room that the FBI, after they were in the room, saw the room, saw what was in the room, asked for a padlock to be put on the door.
	Now, all they had to do is ask to take them that they're classified.
	We really need to bring them back to the National Archives.
	That they would that would have happened.
	Now, in the case of Donald Trump going further on his own, he hired an a firm that thoroughly searched every single residence uh to make sure that there were no more documents.
	The Justice Department, the FBI were invited to go on that search with them, and they turned it down.
	But in the case of Biden, he gets special treatment.
	One thing I'll tell you about Trump is Donald Trump Did not pack a box.
	I can promise you that part.
	Number two, I doubt very highly.
	I just there's no way the guy that I know was spending any time ever looking at boxes that were brought back from the White House in some storage unit at Mar-a-Lago.
	Now, should they have a better system?
	Yeah, the National Archives and Records Association administration, rather, they should be themselves more responsible.
	They're now going to be investigated because it appears to be run by a bunch of people that are hardcore leftists.
	Just like everything else in the deep state.
	So we'll get to the bottom of it.
	The fact that every Democrat went so hard against against Donald Trump on this.
	Dick Durbin even had to admit uh did Joe lose the high ground now.
	Yeah, he lost the high ground.
	Uh because he was so quick to judge and wow, how did this happen?
	Irresponse.
	How?
	So, you know, Joey now, we have you know five separate occasions, and you know, the Justice Department, well, we invited them in.
	So did Trump invite them in.
	They had unfettered access.
	That's why they put the padlock on, because they wanted it.
	Anyway, Eugene, good call, my friend.
	Uh appreciate it.
	Let's say hi, Sam Florida.
	How are you?
	Glad you called.
	How are you doing?
	I'm good.
	How are you?
	All right.
	Thank you for doing what you do.
	You're doing very well.
	Uh uh, we appreciate you.
	Uh don't ever change.
	I have a question uh which I was discussing with uh uh with a couple of friends, and then uh we were watching uh Fox News and you know we saw uh Kareen uh Jean Pierre or aka or refer you to someone else.
	Uh the question the question that we were discussing was uh that the Republicans uh want to do away with Social Security and with uh Medicare.
	Uh and I wanted to uh just to uh to know what you take us on that.
	So every election year, and it happened this past midterm, and it happens every election year.
	Democrats lie and try to scare old people into thinking their lies are true.
	And the the big lies usually are Republicans are gonna take away your Social Security, your Medicare.
	Republicans are racist and sexist, misogynists, they're homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, transphobic, they want dirty air and water, and and they want grandma and grandpa to die, uh, and some Republican, you know, prominent Republican look alike will take granny and grandpa in a wheelchair and throw them over a cliff.
	That's their that's their standard playbook.
	They use fear and lies to win elections.
	It's dishonest, and the reason they keep doing it is because unfortunately, not everybody listens to talk radio or watches Fox News.
	It's really that simple.
	It's sad, but that is the reality.
	Yes, uh, yeah, that that's where uh that's what I thought, and that's where I stand, and uh a lot of people are uh I guess misinformed.
	But uh anyway, thank you very much for uh what I thought.
	And uh like I said uh uh keep doing what you're doing.
	We need more people like you.
	Uh God bless you.
	God bless you too, Sam.
	Appreciate it.
	All right, quick break right back to our phones.
	800-941 Sean, our number, Mike Pompeo at the top of the hour as we continue.
	I will be joined by our friend Mike Pompeo at the top of the hour.
	Uh he's got great insights in his new book, Never Give an Inch, Fighting for the American America I Love.
	That's coming up.
	We'll get back to our phone zone in the meantime.
	Chris is in Pennsylvania, Chris, glad you called, sir.
	How are you?
	Happy Monday.
	Hey, thanks, Sean.
	Glad to talk to you.
	Hey, Sean, I wanted to talk to you a moment about Alec Baldwin and uh the comments he made.
	Now, don't get me wrong, I have no love for Alec Baldwin at all.
	I'm not sure.
	No, nobody does, but go ahead.
	Maybe his wife and kids, I don't know.
	But I've spent many, many, many years.
	I've done cowboy action shooting.
	Um, I've done cowboy mounted shooting.
	And for those who don't know what that is, it's essentially where you take the single action cult and you pretend you're a gunfighter for the day and you shoot paper targets, balloons, or whatever.
	Um, so I'm very familiar with with that fire alarm.
	Now he made the comment that he didn't pull the trigger.
	And I'd heard uh to the grapevine that excuse me, that it was possible he had his finger on the trigger.
	Now, knowing that fire alarm like I do, that is entirely possible.
	When you train with that fire alarm to become proficient in that sport, you're you're essentially you're pulling back the hammer as you're drawing the fire alarm.
	And the way it's designed, it's very easy for your finger to go right on that trigger and you don't even know it.
	Well, I I'm I'm familiar with the firearm number one.
	Uh you're right.
	It's a single action, and you draw back the hammer, and by the way, if you let go of it, it could fire the weapon.
	That that would be one scenario.
	Um but he was very specific and saying, I didn't pull the trigger.
	He said, I did not pull the trigger.
	Now, let's say uh I'm assuming when he says that is I didn't pull the trigger and I didn't pull back the hammer.
	I mean, because otherwise, look, if you drop that gun, that gun is not going to go off that I can see.
	Maybe, maybe you see it differently than me, but uh these you know, even guns back in the day, you know, if you drop them, they don't go off usually.
	That doesn't happen.
	But he had it in his hand, and he's saying, I didn't shoot it.
	Well, then the firearm does not fire itself.
	Some action had to be taken for that for that firearm to release that round.
	Absolutely.
	Um, I mean, like I said, when we he had to have pulled the hammer back.
	There's no question about that.
	Um, did he pull the hammer back and his finger was on the trigger without him knowing?
	It's possible.
	Likely, probably not.
	That's for a jury to decide.
	But if that did happen, you know, then you know, it's a tragic action.
	However, by the way, involuntary manslaughter does not include the word intent.
	You don't you don't want to do it, you don't plan to do it.
	You just do it because in this case, you know, number one, he has a leading role in terms of the film management on top of being the lead actor in the movie.
	So that's and they're point and there were reports of other incidents uh that had occurred on the set that we haven't gotten all the full details of.
	Um and then you have the armorer there, and then you have you know, there's supposed to be checks and balances.
	You know, look, I'm not a George Clooney fan either, but George Clooney said any time I'm handed a weapon on a set, I check it myself, which by the way, I would do based on my firearm safety training from when since I've been ten, eleven years old.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	I mean, the uh the glaring question is how how did a live round get on the set number one, why was it there?
	And someone had to load that weapon.
	So and it's very, very difficult to believe that someone who has any knowledge can mistake a live round for a blank round.
	There's glaring differences.
	It it would be for me impossible.
	And I'm a pistol marksman, however, I'm not an ammunition expert.
	Uh I know guys that that make their own ammunition.
	I'm sure maybe you do as well.
	I don't know.
	Yes, sir.
	Yes, sir.
	Um I don't I don't go that deep into it.
	When my weapon needs to be cleaned, I have professionals clean.
	I bring it to, you know, a gunsmith, and they take care of it.
	And and people that I know that will do a better job and that are really good at it, and they do it every day.
	So um I just not my area of interest.
	And and I really can't fire a firearm.
	Thanks to Mantis X now, I can again practice and be proficient in the safety and use of my firearm, but um, you know, I've I've just lost too much of my hearing with eight, you know, being on radio since 1987.
	But you know, this this is a yeah, it was an accident.
	I don't think he went to work that day to kill a cinematographer.
	And however, there is a responsibility of everybody on that set.
	There shouldn't have been live rounds there, A, who put that live round in that weapon, B. He's saying he didn't pull the trigger makes no sense to me.
	Somebody had to take an action for that firearm to go off the way it did.
	The fact that it was a live round, you know, it's it's I I don't have the answers.
	This trial's gonna be interesting.
	Now, the jury will have two options in this case.
	One will be involuntary manslaughter, that's on the first tr uh uh case, 18 months maximum sentence.
	The second one is if a firearm used an involuntary manslaughter, that's five-year mandatory minimum sentence.
	So that's what he's looking at right now.
	Uh and if I was his lawyers, the fact Even Mark Erigo said this Friday night on TV.
	I wouldn't have let him go on George Stephanopoulos or make any public comments, and he should have kept his big fat mouth shut.
	Um, but of course, Alec Baldwin be a guy, Alec.
	You know, I doubt anybody can control this idiot.
	Anyway, I appreciate the call, my friend.
	God bless you.
	Uh, have a great week.
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