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Rep. Jim Banks - January 17th, Hour 2
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You might recall that there were two people that then Kevin McCarthy, minority leader, put up to be on the Jan 6 committee.
One was Jim Jordan of Ohio.
The other was Jim Banks of Indiana.
And Nancy Pelosi would not hear of it, so So then at that point, Kevin McCarthy said, What's the point if you're not going to let our people on?
The committee.
Anyway, with that said, um, we're going to be joined in a second by Jim Banks of Indiana.
And um regarding his announcement, I'll let him make it himself as long if you haven't heard about it yet.
Uh he wrote an op-ed out this weekend, you know, tackling the woke as a joke agenda, and he says rightly that it's paralyzing the success of this once great country.
Let me read to you a little bit about what he said.
He said, We no longer live in a normal America.
The issues that Congress used to take up, like health care, the economy, or our withdrawal from Afghanistan, are regrettably pale in comparison to the creeping tyranny which nearly all Americans now feel.
Our nation's most powerful forces, our intelligence agencies, corporations, the press, our universities, even our military, are all pressing further and further into uncharted territory, which it's not clear America can return.
And for the time being, saving America rests in the House of Representatives.
He said the most toxic part of this tyranny is its doctrine wokeness.
Everyone has by now heard this word, but it means something very specific.
It means that all the so-called oppressor groups must be punished for their past and present alleged sins, and there are many steps to punishing them, inducing self-hatred through indoctrination, stripping away their rights by not enforcing the laws on their behalf, public humiliation, hatred, uh, and ultimately possibly violence.
That's why the left has done so far.
It's not exactly clear how far they may go.
And what does wokeness mean for the so-called oppressed?
Well, it means privileged status, exemption from certain laws and norms, and the public recognition that their views are an impeachable, unimpeachable.
They cannot be contradicted by reason, they can't be doubted, they must be believed.
Anyway, Congressman Jim Banks of Indiana joins us now.
Sir, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, good to be with you.
What's going on, sir?
Well, you have a little bit of an announcement to make.
I I I know what it is, but it's interesting.
I do.
Thank you, Sean.
I'm I'm in Indiana uh today, back in God's country.
I've I've kicked off my campaign for the United States Senate.
I believe that the Senate needs a shakeup.
It needs uh a new generation of conservative fighters, and uh I've been in the house, I've been on the front lines of the fights in the house these past six or seven years.
Mike Braun, our current senator is running for governor, so he's opened up the Senate seat.
And I I just feel like uh Indiana being the conservative great state that it is deserves a conservative fighter for to go to Washington to serve in the Senate to fight for who's your family.
So I've kicked off the campaign today, go to BanksForSenate.com.
You can watch my kickoff video and get involved.
I'm excited about the long camp campaign ahead.
Oh, it is gonna be a long campaign.
This Senate season is gonna be vital and it's gonna be crucial.
Let me talk to you about something a little more uh uh something that I don't believe most people are paying attention to.
I believe, and you at any point interrupt me, tell me that I'm wrong.
I believe elections and the election process in this country has changed dramatically.
And I think Republicans are sort of like at iPhone version one or two point zone and Democrats are at iPhone 14 or 15, that that version of elections.
And what I mean by that is I don't see I don't see Senate candidates, presidential candidates doing what candidates traditionally would do to campaign.
I don't see them out there kissing babies, taking selfies, making press avails, giving speeches, doing town halls, doing rallies.
Three quick examples would be Joe Biden in 2020 or in 2022, Katie Hobbs or John Fetterman.
They hide in their basement.
They seem to collect, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars in in money that they spend on negative ads.
They stay on the air pounding their Republican opponents.
If they show up to a debate, it'll be like after a month's worth of voting has taken place in their respective states.
If they even show, many don't show, like in the case of Katie Hobbs.
And I think they're they're in the ballot harvesting business.
Now, I've done a lot of research on this, and ballot harvesting is allowed in a number of states.
Twenty-five states in DC have laws allowing the voter to have someone of their choosing return their ballot.
Eleven states have laws allowing certain people, family member to return ballots on a voter's behalf.
Alabama turns out is the only state that explicitly says the voter must return the ballot themselves.
Thirteen states didn't have any specific rules regarding ballot harvesting or collection, and sixteen states don't even have voter ID laws.
Now here's my long-winded question.
Forgive me, I'm going to give you all the time you want.
Republicans, in my view, they're running old style campaigning thinking that it's going to be about ideas, and the Democrats seem to have moved on to the ballot business, not the running for office.
We have a better vision business.
Am I wrong?
Sean, I think you're exactly right.
And this is why I voted to object to Pennsylvania's electoral college votes on January 6th of 2021.
Uh, and I'll never apologize for it because it should never be possible for a state to change their election laws without the approval of their state legislature, which is the only constitutional way to change election laws like Pennsylvania did to help one guy beat another guy to help their guy beat our guy.
Um it's it's uh it's it's a shameful example, I think, to the the larger point that you're making and how these campaigns have evolved when uh you have the the regime and some of these states, the establishment and some of these states get away what they've long gotten away with.
That that would never happen in Indiana, at least we'd like to think so.
Our our state legislature has passed some stronger uh election integrity laws.
Last year I introduced a bill in the Congress, and and some Republicans have uh have have uh opposed this concept, but I I believe there is a federal role.
States control our election laws, but we should amend federal election laws, have uh and other federal election laws to ban ballot harvesting in federal elections.
There is a nexus.
Stop it from happening.
Also say that once once ballots are once they start counting ballots on election night, they can't stop counting and take a pause and then start counting again a day or two later.
That should never be allowed to happen.
And there is a role here for I think the federal government, but a larger role for the states to pass pass uh stronger election integrity laws too.
So your state of Indiana allows someone else to return a ballot, but with restrictions, typically a household family member, caregiver, et cetera.
Um now there are sixteen states that don't even have a voter ID law, which I think is insane too.
I think you ought to be able to prove who you are.
I walk into my precinct in New York and they don't ask for anything.
They say, Hi, Mr. Hannity, great to see you.
Hey, Sean, how are you?
And I say, hi guys, great, great to see you.
Thank you for what you do every year.
We appreciate it.
And I'm handed a ballot and I go and then I just have to say who I am.
Now they in most cases I'm friends with the people because I've known them for years having voted in the same precinct for years.
Um, But I I think that's a big deal.
There's one other issue I want to ask you about this and then we'll move on to some important issues too.
And that is I I talk about what's called accelerated migration.
We have baby boomers now hitting retirement age in big numbers.
And what you see for example in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, you see the a lot of conservatives tired of of COVID shutdowns, high uh tired of high taxes, uh tired of burdensome regulation.
They're moving.
And they're going to Florida in huge numbers.
They're going to the Carolinas in huge numbers.
They're going to Texas in massive numbers.
And then you have the Midwest and that would include Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, and to a smaller extent Indiana, conservatives leaving those states.
And while it's making states like Florida and Texas redder and the Carolinas maybe redder, um those Midwestern states of which you are part of they're they're harder now for Republicans to win, especially you know statewide office or in the case of a presidency.
Yeah, you know, Sean, here's the lesson that I've learned though, and and Donald Trump taught me this lesson.
Donald Trump made the Republican Party, the party the working class again, and that's where we make up the difference when we appeal to blue-collar working class Americans like my dad, a lifelong union Democrat, worked in a factory all of his life, never identified himself as a Republican until Donald Trump became president and started appealing to voters like him.
That that's how we make up the difference I believe in in what you're describing is bring those voters into the Republican Party in even bigger ways and keep them there.
Cement them as part of the Republican Party and and that that's the shift that's the paradigm shift in American politics today that Donald Trump uh that Donald Trump started and it's incumbent on the new generation of Republican leaders like myself to keep it this way this lesson that we've learned is that we need to we need to represent those voters.
We need to represent blue collar working Americans by holding China accountable, trade deals that are better for uh working class Americans, secure the border and immigration policies that put American workers first.
So that that's how we change the Republican Party and have broader appeal and pick up those voters in places like Indiana and the Midwest.
I agree the let the left be let the the Democrats be the party of coastal elites um let's talk about what you wrote in this op-ed it was very powerful we no longer live in a normal America explain.
Yeah I want to go back to the the case you were making about election laws for a minute because there's a good parallel and in in Indiana a couple of years ago after the 2020 election the state legislature took up a voter ID law that was a strong law and they they faced immediate backlash from some major corporations in Indiana the NCAA is headquartered in Indianapolis and they cried out against it.
They called it racist just like they called the the election laws in Georgia racist the governor Kemp passed down there.
When we talk about wokeism uh infecting corporate America when when they tell us that we can't even disagree with them on election laws and and tell us that we're racist because we believe in voter ID laws that's that's what I'm talking about.
That what the left has done to change take away our our freedom of speech attack our freedom of our freedom of religion our religious liberties that's the that's the wokeism that we have to uproot and fight back against and eradicate and that's why I've started the first ever anti-woke caucus in Congress so we can strategize and do that.
What do you think of the latest now three separate locations with documents of Joe Biden especially in light of what he said about Donald Trump the raid on Donald Trump's place and in light of Hillary Clinton getting a pass for all of her top secret classified information her deleted emails 33,000 of them her busted devices with hammers her missing sim cards what do you make when you put it all together what do you make of it all?
Yeah I I would laugh about it Sean if it weren't so serious.
I mean that there's a pattern now with Joe Biden that you know the way that he recklessly stored these documents the the sheer hypocrisy is one part of it.
I mean I I I I still want to know what the documents were that they when they rate when the unprecedented raid on Mar-a-Lago and the documents there, we don't know what those documents um are, and I have a feeling that they're not as serious as what they've made them out to be.
At the same time, the documents they found at Biden's house and uh at the Biden Center.
We all we know that those were serious documents with national security interests.
So we have to investigate them.
Jamie Carmer's leading the oversight committee is going to do that.
And we got to get to the bottom of it as soon as we can.
Hold them accountable.
Well, we wish you the best in your campaign.
You've been a longtime friend of this uh program.
You've been a stalwart as it relates to conservative principles.
We're going to watch your race closely.
You got a lot of time between now and 2024.
Uh I'm almost like we're reluctant right now to even start talking about 2024, and I think you you can understand why.
Uh but uh these uh these are troubling times and electing a Republican Senate, Republican president, keeping a Republican House are critical to me.
That's right.
We have a long ways to go.
Appreciate opportunity to talk about it.
Go to Banksynate.com and help us out today.
All right, Jim Banks, Congressman Indiana, thank you, my friend.
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So much going on today.
You know, I wonder, and I sometimes don't even want to bring up all the bad economic news, and I won't necessarily hear.
Republicans do plan on moving forward to impeach the Department of Homeland Security Secretary, Mayorkas.
Senior House Republicans are moving swiftly to build the case that he's not enforcing the law, which, by the way, is proved rather easily.
Congressman Jim Jordan is intending to probe the Biden administration and their abuses against January 6th defendants.
You know, nobody, not a single person lifted a finger.
This is what bothers me about how hypocritical the Jan 6 committee was.
Because we spoke out in real time.
I'm I'm against rioting.
You gotta protect our institutions.
You gotta protect elected officials.
That's basic common sense.
Not difficult to figure that out.
But we had 500 and what seventy-four riots in the summer of 2020.
Where's that investigation?
We had dozens of dead Americans, Thousands of injured cops, billions in property damage.
Not even a single nothing.
Anyway, the battle, uh, let me just warn you I had conversations with people this weekend about the pending battle on the debt ceiling.
Apparently, this is like months away.
But I do like the fact that Republicans are getting together, and they're gonna have long discussions on where they plan to cut federal spending and how they plan to handle it, because they need to be prepared for being accused of shutting down the government.
The full faith and credit of the United States is hanging in the balance.
None of which is gonna be true.
But the pressure will be on them, not on the big spenders on the Senate side, not on big spenders even on the house side, known as Democrats.
So Republicans better be ready, united, have a strategy, and stand on the principles for which they ran on and were elected on.
Not that hard.
Jim Jordan, by the way, firing back at the White House.
Republicans want fair treatment.
The FBI hasn't released pictures of Biden's classified documents as they did with Trump.
Why not?
Good question.
All right, quick break, right back.
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Lynn, did you hear about this?
San Francisco reparations panel pitches five million dollars to each African American resident.
Did you see that?
I did see that.
And what were your thoughts?
I'd like to know what qualifies as African American.
I'm curious to see how many people apply, and I'm curious to see how that money would be disseminated.
And I'm also curious to see how in the hell a state that is falling apart at the seams is going to afford that.
And um You mean one that just has a budget deficit of what, 25, 30 billion dollars this year alone.
And think about it this way 50% of that's just from Newsom's hair gel, right?
So we've got an allocated cost to keep that stiffness, right?
To make sure as many brain cells as possible are crushed under the sheer weight of his L'Oreal number five, right?
It's a hot mess.
That you want to give this kind of money away.
In DC, they want to soften the penalties for carjacking and other violent crimes.
And that's a deterrent, Sean.
You know, when you tell criminals, don't stop.
No, just take it easy, relax.
We'll send a psychologist, a therapist to the scene of the crime.
And uh, you know, when you kill them, just do it easily, you know, take your time, be gentle.
You know, this is how we're dealing with crime in America.
Marie Osmond has now for the second time come out with a statement that she refuses to give her kids any of her inheritance.
And she's she's really passionate about it.
She says it only breeds laziness and entitlement.
Honestly, why would you enable your child your child to not try to be something?
I don't know anybody who becomes anything if they're just handed money, and she said to me the greatest gift you can give your child is a passion to search out who they are uh inside and to work.
And one of my rules is if you start something, you finish something, and I just think all inheritance does is breed laziness and entitlement.
The comments reiterate the sentiment that started what three years ago.
But here's my point.
Well, what do you think of that?
Um I ha I I you can structure any will or any trust to have conditions associated with it.
One condition can be that you must be, you know, uh gainfully employed.
One condition could be you're free of all drug and alcohol use or addiction, etc.
etc.
Oh, maybe I misunderstood what you said.
I thought you said that she said she wasn't giving them any money now.
No, she's not giving the money, period.
So she's saying they had not just what when she passes on, but while she's here right now, she's not giving any money, regardless.
Right.
But uh if you you can put restrictions on any money that you leave for somebody, as long as you have somebody that's willing to be a trustee, that would be uh that would enforce whatever your wishes are, and part of that can be gainful employment, you know, no drug use, uh moderate alcohol consumption, obviously you can't be a raging alcoholic or whatever, um, and whatever other behaviors and you have to but you know, money can be used.
Money is not the means to an end.
There's not a single person I know that has money that doesn't have problems.
They might be different problems, but they have real problems in in many ways.
Raising kids, you know, it it's a difficult thing to do, but if you really believe in self-actualization of your children, sometimes that does cost money, and that money can assist them to achieve whatever whatever that talent is that she's referring to.
So I don't I I I understand what she's saying.
It just sounds extreme to me.
It does, and I wonder if there's obviously, you know, this is a private matter.
I'm sure there's more to the story than we know.
You know, we're reading, you know, the uh the Cliff Notes version of their lives, so who who the hell knows what her kids did?
But listen, I respect her decision.
It's her choice.
It's her money, her choice.
I don't know that I respect her decision.
I mean, there's a lot of bad mothers out there, a lot.
And I think that there are a lot of people that you know, there's a lot of bad parents, and they just uh they don't like to take care of their children and they like to get over and they put up a good front outside and they say it's X, Y, and Z, and really it's not.
So I have very strong feelings about these types of things.
But I don't know her particular situation, but in my opinion, you know, you can teach your children to respect money and earn a good living and be a you know a contributing citizen of society without being a you know a loafer or you know, somebody who's just looking for a free ride.
Sheila Jackson Lee, Congresswoman, Texas, has introduced a bill to combat, quote, white supremacy by criminalizing certain forms of hate speech.
Anyway, the bill's language is broad, could result in people facing criminal charges for sharing hateful content, including on social media.
Now, it does raise the question what part of the First Amendment does she not understand, but under her bill, a person that engages in a white supremacy inspired hate crime when white supremacy ideology is motivated the planning, development, preparation,
and uh per uh uh perpetration of actions that constituted a crime, um or was undertaken, but the bill would impose criminal penalties for those who publish materially advancing white supremacy, white supremacist ideology.
How about racism in general?
You know, looking at the hand is uh is uh virulent anti-Semite and racist.
But I mean Farrakhan's just one of many, you know.
I mean, we've got there is there is an ongoing, it's so interesting.
There's an ongoing effort right now to create a nation of division, right?
We're no longer Americans, we're Americans, and we can't figure it out, and we can't unite, and we can't find our way.
But what we can do is we can continue to divide and to be totally segregated from one another, which is everything that we fought against for the past fifty years of our lives.
And so to me, somebody like her is standing out there perpetrating a lie and saying that things are happening when they're not.
And at the end of the day, I think everything that she says is racist, and I think that she is.
Well, not everything.
That's a broad generalization.
But that's what she's that's what she's doing, right?
So if we're all going to broad sweep and generalize and just Make blanket statements and you know that's that's the biggest problem that I have with someone.
This is an elected congressional official who is taking a swipe at an amendment at a at a an aspect of our government of our freedoms.
Who is the objective person saying that something is or is not racist, is or is not supremacy.
Who are you?
Who's the arbiter?
Give me a break.
There's not going to be one.
You know, the thing is, is I never supported hate crimes legislation in the sense that you give an additional punishment if you can prove what motivated somebody.
You punish people for the crimes they commit.
How do you prove what was in a thought of somebody?
What because that maybe they wrote it down in an email or a tweet or or a text or whatever.
Well, that's the other issue.
Separate separate and apart.
All right, Patty is in North Carolina.
Patty, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, darling, I'm good.
Hey, darling.
You know, that's illegal to say, but I'm but you can say it to me as often as you want.
That's fine.
It's allowed on this program.
I always call you darling.
So um here's the deal.
When I look at how the Democrats operate, I think of a uh Jason Bourne movie.
Well thought out, precision, got their act together.
Everybody is on the same plan and it's dealt.
When I think of how we handle things, it's more like murder, she wrote.
Everybody seems Murder she wrote.
I mean, that's that's just the way to say it.
They might get to the end, but it's just so frumpy.
I I guess that's the way to say I happen to love Jason Bourne movies myself.
I think they're great.
And you know what I mean.
No, I think I know I've I know fully what you mean.
And so when it came out last week that, oh, we they found these documents, and I was like, Oh my gosh.
So why didn't we come right out and say, Oh, you found documents, did you?
Well, there's a lot more to this story.
We're not going to sleep until we get the answers that we need on this.
And that's what should have been hammered, hammered, hammered.
You're hiding something, we know it, we're gonna figure it out.
Don't think you're gonna pull one over on us.
But that's not really what anybody came out and said.
I mean, we need to be ready to come right back and pound 'em just as hard as they pound us.
And just whining, oh, they were so mean to Trump and they're not being that mean to Biden.
No, it's it's it's not moving us along anywhere that we need to be.
And it's just so frustrating.
I watched TV all weekend and it was the same whining, whining, whining.
Let's come out and have some gumption and some power behind us, and somebody stand up and say we know what's going on, we're gonna prove it, we're gonna figure it out, and don't think we're that big of a sucker.
Oh, they just happen to find something in a closet.
I want to hear that, Sean.
Well, you want look, a lot of this is happening and these investigations are real.
Uh I think America now sees rank hypocrisy at a level that they needed to see.
Uh I think there's a lot more that that behind this, a lot more to come on this.
And I just think you just, you know, follow each lead and and we're gonna get to where we need to go.
But if if you look at the mob, the media, and you look at Democrats and you look at how they reacted to Trump and Mar-a-Lago and the raid and and classified top secret materials as it's as if Hillary Clinton never had any.
You know, the way they act that protected her, but there's a different standard for Donald Trump and now a different standard for Joe Biden.
Well, it's like they handed it to let's on a silver platter.
You know?
And I don't do Well, you couldn't write it any better considering how everybody reacted to the August raid of of Mar-a-Lago.
You know, they couldn't have written it any better, you know, the the people that defended no prosecutor, whatever prosecute, and Hillary Clinton had done far worse by a long shot uh than Donald Trump had done.
But this is the world we live in.
And you know, it's it the whole thing has been unfair.
I've never seen a single human being in politics treated more unfairly than Donald Trump.
And I'm not crying Mir River, I'm just telling you what the reality is.
They they they had it in for 'em, and they use the powers of government to to help tr you know, drive him out of the political discourse as much as humanly possible.
And they still try to this day.
And they don't stop.
And, you know, is Donald Trump is he guilty of one thing in the sense that he fights back?
Yeah, he defends himself.
And that gets a little rough, and that becomes too rough and tumble for their precious little brains to handle.
Um, but anyway, good call.
Appreciate it, Patty.
God bless you, as always.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back.
John Solomon, new column out today, straight ahead.
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