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Jan. 7, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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Newt's Lessons - January 6th, Hour 2
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, Congress has now convened for the day, but they'll be back in action probably around the time we're on TV tonight on Hannity.
And we'll have the very latest.
We have an audience show tonight, so it's a perfect night.
We'll get the views of just the people that make this country great.
Many of them are in the great state of Texas where I am an honorary Texan thanks to former Governor Rick Perry.
Congressman Chip Roy of Texas's 21st District is with us.
And I got to tell you, he's been working day and night, no sleep, to try and come to a consensus so that the Republican Party can get to the work and the business of the people in this country.
And that would be the investigations, their conservative commitments to America, which I support completely.
And I know a lot of people want this resolved, but also people have been wanting assurances that Kevin McCarthy will keep his word and not get burned like they have in the past with people like John Boehner.
Anyway, Chip Roy is with us now, sir.
I know you've been working really hard.
You deserve a lot of credit.
I don't think people know the extent to which you've been trying to resolve issues and make this deal work so you can get to work for the American people.
Well, Sean, thanks for having me on, and I appreciate it very much.
And let me first just say that everything we're trying to do, all of us that are involved with this, are trying to make sure that the swamp can't steamroll the American people, right?
And you and I share that goal.
We all do.
This place is so badly broken, and that omnibus bill in December is a perfect example of it, right?
Where you steamroll over the American people with a massive spending bill that increases debt, et cetera, et cetera.
And usually defenses use it the excuse for that.
Now, you and I, all of us, we want a strong defense, but it can't be used as the excuse to keep spending money we don't have and funding the woke bureaucracy and the tyrants.
So that's the fight.
One thing I think we need to make clear, though, is that McCarthy was fighting against that omnibus bill.
It was the first time ever these Republican senators, what were there, 17 of them.
It is repulsive what they did.
And you and I share that, and we're in full agreement on all of it, but it's not the House.
You guys in the House did not, you should have had a say in this, and you would have had a say had they gone the route of a continuing resolution.
Sure, and that's what should have happened.
But the point really is more about the way this place works.
So here's the thing.
What we've been fighting for and what we have roughly achieved, we're still working out all the details here right now leading up to the night, is assuring that we have the accountability mechanism with motion to vacate, making sure that we've got a rules package that empowers rank and file members with single-purpose bills, germane amendments.
That means the only amendments that can actually be attached are actually related to the bill.
And we have a 72-hour rule to read the bill.
And now we've actually had a conversation about how the rules committee, the powerful rules committee.
So for everybody listening, that's the funnel through which all bills get to the floor.
We've managed to get that to a place where the people on that committee will reflect conservatives.
Again, none of that stuff was accomplished without all of the efforts over the last 45 days.
And then we've gotten important budget constraints.
We've gotten important limits on spending that we will agree to cap spending at FY22 levels to hold the line on spending, that we will allow for open amendments on the floor of the House to allow us to offer amendments to cut spending on appropriations bills.
We've got a provision in here to ensure that we could have an automatic continuing resolution kick in so that we could take the government shutdown fear off the table by Democrats.
And importantly and lastly, we all talk about the oversight part, and you and I agree with that.
Jim Jordan, and I'm on the Judiciary Committee, but we needed a strengthened effort to go after the weaponization of government.
And now we've got a really strong church committee-style select subcommittee attached to the Judiciary Committee to have a big budget, a budget at least as big as the January 6th Committee and staffing to go after weaponized government.
Look, I'm telling you, we made serious changes that will enable us to get serious reforms and to push back on the Biden administration.
And it wouldn't have happened without the strong people that tried to stand up and fight.
And that includes Sean, some of the guys that I know you've been a little upset with, and some of our friends have been upset with.
And, you know, frankly, we've had terse and tense conversations.
This morning was a rough one.
These are my brothers and sisters who are conservatives and have been fighting for a better country.
I hope by tonight we'll get this squared away.
If this deal is fully done, we're a stronger House, a stronger Republican Party.
We can check spending and hold Biden accountable and move forward towards 24-25.
Listen, you know, I spoke to a lot of members.
If I have any frustrationship, it's that I saw this come in in December.
And I wrote a lot of the guys.
Apparently, I should have been talking to you because you seem to be the most effective at getting to a resolution.
And I kept asking everybody exactly the very question that I think is pertinent.
What do you think you need to accomplish all of this?
What do you want?
What are you asking for?
And then I would relay messages and get agreements.
For example, the motion to vacate was a pretty big deal.
And Kevin, having a threshold of five, I thought was reasonable.
And he reduced it now to a threshold of one.
Any one member, if Kevin doesn't keep his promises, can now basically have a no-confidence vote in him.
And I'm fully supportive of that.
It's not about the personalities.
To me, it has nothing to do with Kevin.
It has to do with the agenda.
And tell me if I'm wrong, because I see that the investigations are going to happen.
We know what Jim Jordan is going to do in judiciary.
We know what Comer is going to do.
We know we're going to have investigations into Fauci and the origins of COVID.
We know we'll have an investigation into the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan and other investigations.
They seem locked in cement to me, if I'm wrong, tell me.
And the commitments to America, well, that's the America First agenda that I think both you and I support fully.
So let me add a little context and flavor to that because you and I agree.
Like, again, this is all kind of those debates you have with a family around the table, right?
And some disagreements, but we're all on the same team.
Well, look, if you don't have a way to check the spending machine here, and taking a step back, so the omnibus bill that passed through that you rightfully said should have been a CR that the Senate jammed us with.
So now what happens next year when we get that environment?
If we don't have the power through the rules committee and through our ability to stop things on the floor with open amendment votes, if we don't have the power to stop the defense machine to combine with the Democrat non-defense machine, we cannot stop the growth of government.
And if we can't stop the growth of government, we can't stop the weaponization of that government.
Trey Gowdy had hearings.
We can have hearings, but we need to defund the tyranny of the bureaucracy.
So we've got to have the tools to do that.
So look, I'm happy to have as many hearings as we want to have.
I'm happy to subpoena.
We're going to have to fight the subpoena, you know, get to get them to comply with the subpoena.
And we're going to do all that.
But if we don't have teeth on spending, we can't stop what's been ticking you and me off and every American off.
When you fund the stupid FBI with a brand new $400 million headquarters like Mitch McConnell just blessed and those 18 Republicans just did.
Don't get me started.
It's unconscionable.
They did that.
They did that to screw the new Republican House majority.
Let's be honest.
And some of the people that went along with it, I am stunned.
I can't believe they did it.
And I've lost a lot of respect for a lot of them.
Let me just stay focused on this, though.
Yeah.
For example, the threshold needed the motion to vacate done.
More Freedom Caucus members, for example, and there's 40 of you, but remember Kevin has to deal with the study group, and then he has to deal with the Tuesday group and the Friday group and the Sunday group and moderates and even liberal Republicans.
So he's got a needle to thread here that's pretty tight for him.
Why he wants this job is beyond my comprehension.
I wouldn't want that freaking job.
But anyway, you have more people on the rules committee from the Freedom Caucus.
He committed to the votes on term limits, border security, appropriations, all separate.
14.
Every member has an opportunity to offer and allow floor amendments.
All those checks, my understanding is that was all agreed to.
And, you know, when I go back, when I tried to get involved with some people, you know, that was almost like a faded complete a couple of weeks ago.
And my frustration is they didn't hammer all this out before the third.
Yeah, so Sean, just to be clear, and I'm trying to be careful here because we've got everybody now roughly on the same page.
So I'm not, you know, I don't want to throw elbows on.
I don't want anybody.
Let me be clear.
Until today, we didn't have full resolution on all the things you just talked about.
Okay.
So, for example, we didn't even have an offer on five on the motion to vacate really in our hands until Saturday.
We were still having some members who wanted one.
You can debate that, but I'm just telling you, we have to heard.
That is 100% true.
And that was one of the big items that he gave in on days before January 3rd.
Yes.
And so then we were still working on the one.
And then importantly, the rules committee were still getting, in fact, we're still hammering out every detail here over the last few hours.
And then importantly, also, the budget constraints.
Those are a big deal to cap spending at FY22, to force us to be able to say open amendments on the floor on appropriations.
That was not done until yesterday.
And then the part about getting the church committee organized completely.
And then the last part.
Let me give you an example about the Freedom Caucus.
Yeah, the Freedom Caucus shouldn't be able to just do anything it wants, but we only have two members out of 33 currently.
Well, roughly 33 is what the majority size of the Appropriations Committee is.
You want to know why the Appropriations Committee pumps out big spending bills?
We don't have enough conservatives on it.
So we want a few more of your strong conservatives on there.
And Kevin, my understanding is he agreed to that.
Well, again, I want to be careful there because the steering committee and the entire body chooses that.
We have general agreement that we need ideological representation across the committees that will enable us to do the work of the people better.
That's a generic, kind of legalistic statement, but just trust me, we're working through to try to get it right.
But it took a lot to look people in the eye and say, we're going to do this.
We've also been working with people across the other ideological spectrum.
Some of the big appropriators, some of the Tuesday group, they've been sitting in the room.
I'm telling you, so many good relationships have been built by going through this process.
I just want people listening out there.
You might have looked at this and said, well, what are you guys doing?
Look, we got there.
And now there's a lot of relationships forged, and we've got to move forward.
There's probably some hurt feelings, too.
We're working through that.
But we've got to go to war with the Democrats.
But to do that, you've got to have an army that's united around a kind of consistent purpose.
And I think we're there in a way that we weren't fully before, notwithstanding the commitment, because the commitment didn't address directly the spending problem.
This enables us to hit that.
Well, let me just tell you from my perspective, one thing that happened a lot in the process from the people I was talking to, and I regret now talking to you that I didn't reach out to you during this time because you're very much solution-oriented as I am.
And I think you see the importance of getting to work as I do.
And I can tell you that I would ask people, okay, what do you want?
And then I would be given a list.
I said, where's the list?
And then the list wouldn't show up for 48 hours, and I'd get frustrated.
And this was all in the lead up to January 3rd.
And then all of a sudden, then items on the list got checked off one after another.
And then the list kept growing.
And I'm sure you've been in negotiations, you come to a deal, and then somebody comes back with 20 more things.
It's like, come on.
So one thing that's important here is some of the things that we're talking about, they just can't be truly written down.
What we did when we put out our letter on December 8th, you'll remember that there were seven of us.
There was five who had publicly said they were not going to support Kevin.
Now, they had a lot of things they wanted to, but they just came out outright and said it.
My view was, nope, let's get seven of us.
We got a group of us and we put out a letter and we're going to say, here are the kinds of things we think are important for any speaker.
And we outlined those things.
You've seen that letter floating around.
That served as the nucleus for the last month for us to build to a place of getting agreement.
And it's taken a lot.
And some of those things are not things you can actually fully write down, Sean.
You have to go sit down in a room and get it done.
You remember, a lot of your listeners remember, back in school and college, when did you do your best work to get your papers finally written and your exams finally studied for?
The few days that I showed up, you mean?
Well, let me say this in the finish, because this is really important.
Do I wish this all happened before this week?
Yeah.
Do I have any anger or angst or frustration?
Not really.
If in the end, we get to the place where this conservative agenda, by the way, I had my own conservative caucus.
I was called the Conservative Solutions Caucus in 2014.
I'm actually putting it up on my website today to remind people.
All of this we've been discussing for all the years I've been on radio.
But I got to give you a lot of credit because you've brought together this varying group of people and you're hurting these cats.
And I believe that you're going to be the one that ultimately gets this job done.
And it's going to be great for the American people.
And more importantly, you guys will get to work, which is more important.
I'll give you the last word, sir.
Well, Sean, I appreciate that.
And look, all I want people to remember out there, the most important thing is we're coming together.
We're going to be united to go after Democrats.
But remember that we have to fundamentally change this town because Republicans don't have the best track record either.
And you and I agree and your listeners agree that we have to do better than the past Republicans have done.
So we're trying to put those constraints in place.
Now let's go rock and roll.
And I think hopefully, hopefully that's where we are.
All right.
I owe you a bottle of whiskey if you get this done.
Although if I send it, I'll probably get arrested and you'll get arrested for taking it.
Yeah, I don't know what the rules are, but whatever they are, I'll take whatever the rules allow.
But anyway, look, I appreciate it.
And we'll talk to you soon.
All right, Chip Roy, 21st District, great state of Tech.
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Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass.
You're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday.
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Well, a lot of progress is made today, and two more members will be coming back that will be voting.
So there's really six holdouts at this particular point in time.
And that would be Andy Biggs, Lauren Boebert, Crane, Arizona, Gates, Florida, Good, Virginia, Harris, Maryland, and Rosendale in Montana.
So, I mean, that's seven?
One of them voted.
I forgot which one switched their vote.
Oh, that's right.
Norman switched.
Forgot about that, but he wasn't on my list.
Anyway, but you have, you know, people, really interesting people.
Like, for example, Byron Donalds made the switch today.
Paul Gozer, friend of this program, made the switch today.
Norman made the switch, we like as well.
Chip Roy, he made the switch.
And he, you know what?
He's the most articulate of everybody.
You know what I realized?
I should have talked to him instead of some of these other people from the beginning because he actually has a list.
And I kept asking, where's your list?
And you get the list.
Then they get what they want.
Then the list changes.
I mean, it's Washington.
It's a swamp.
That's the sewer.
Sean gets the answers no one else does.
America deserves to know the truth about Congress.
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14 Republicans now moving towards Kevin McCarthy.
Hopefully this process coming to an end.
What is amazing in all of this is so many people don't understand one part of this.
The agenda is completely set in cement.
How many of you have ever built a house?
How many of you, have you ever, do you ever roll cement, Linda?
No.
Oh, yeah.
You didn't.
Absolutely.
I'm a connoisseur of cement.
You're a connoisseur of cement.
Absolutely.
I like the gray.
I also like gray.
Yeah.
They have a beautiful gray.
Gray.
Big fan.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
So you know nothing about cement.
I don't want to get buried in it.
No.
That's what I know.
No, we're planning on putting you in a compost pile.
Absolutely.
And using your body, you know, flowers, tomatoes, corn, sunlight.
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Yeah, I hit the button.
Watch it go up.
Why should it go down?
It sounds a lot like me.
I'm just staring at the wind.
What do you call it?
As the 105th speaker vote happens.
Yeah, exactly.
By the way, oh, Hunter Biden's custody battle might reveal who his art purchasers were.
His paint-by-number purchasers are.
Portraits of a crack addict.
Who paid for all this?
I'd like to know.
Biden fumbling during his speech, announcing expanding border measures and discussing the replacement of Title 42, which is the public health law that was used to deter illegal immigrants at the border.
However, he kind of screwed it up and the president then predicted that Title 42 would be gone by the end of the year.
Title 42 is going away before the end of the year in terms of the Supreme Court.
My prediction is we're going to have to use Title IX, he said.
But of course, he got that wrong.
Title IX deals with the issue of equality in women in sports, the NCAA, et cetera, et cetera.
Anyway, here's Joe's latest butchering of the English language.
My prediction is, and not this, and I was not particularly insightful about this.
Title 42 is going to go away before the end of the year in terms of the Supreme Court, my prediction.
And then we're going to have to use Title IX, Title 8.
8, right?
Am I right?
Yeah, Title VIII, 8-9.
And which we can implement what we're doing here, plus some other things.
By the way, you can hear the president's voice is obviously deeper.
You know what it sounds like to me?
Because I'm just guessing.
I'm not playing doctor on radio, but I've used so much pretnisone when I'm out on the road and I used to do book tours and speeches and radio and TV.
You know, after four days of that, my voice is shot.
So to keep my voice open, you'd have to use pretnisone, which is like the worst medicine in the world.
So is he having a fake book tour and his fake White House backdrop in his house?
No, but pretnisone is a very powerful medication.
It's a powerful anti-inflammatory.
In my case, it would lower the inflammation of my vocal cords, which takes away your voice.
A lot of singers use it if they're out on tour and they have back-to-back dates.
As you know, you happen to have a voice that does not go out.
I used a very complicated chemical called water.
Yeah, exactly.
But that doesn't work for everybody, and there's only so much water one can drink.
That's what it sounds like to me, but I'm just guessing.
I don't know.
All right, let's get to our phones.
A lot of you, I know that, you know, maybe we'll put people that disagree on this on the line together.
For example, Ginger is in Georgia, and Bernie is in Idaho.
Ginger, say hi to Bernie.
Bernie, say hi to Ginger.
And welcome both of you and Happy New Year.
Hi here.
All right, so Ginger, Ginger in Georgia, let's start with you.
What's on your mind today?
Well, I know that they had to be real careful in voting for the Speaker of the House, and everybody needed to talk about it.
But some of these holdouts, in my opinion, are doing it for vengeful reasons.
I mean, this is not how the real world works.
I mean, I can't be that way at my job, you know, without any repercussions.
And, you know, this was our shining light after the midterm elections.
What we had was this little bit of advantage in the House, you know, where we could make some leeway and try and steer things back normal, even just a little bit.
And for me, this is so disappointing because he was already the minority leader for Speaker of the House.
And if these people are so stuck on that and they're just wanting to fundraise and get their name out in the front, then they should step aside and let somebody in there that's willing to work for the American people because that's what they're being paid to do, not showboat.
What's your take, Bernie, in Idaho?
Oh, my goodness, it's so opposite.
First of all, we don't want the normal.
Does anyone not agree we need new leadership?
He's been there for 10, 12 years.
What has he done?
And the people that, sorry, Ginger, but you said they're showboating and they want money.
That's just the opposite.
If they want money, they would be voting for him.
Like the people that said, oh, we won't vote for him, but they did because he gives them the money.
That's his job.
His job is to run around, get money, and give them money so they can run.
And you know what?
My whole thing, he is not trustworthy.
None of us can trust him.
He threw Trump under the bus immediately, and he knew what was going on.
And, you know, he just, my whole thing is he cannot be trusted.
And we need new leadership.
We need somebody.
Okay.
Now, I've got to interrupt you a little bit, Bernie, just to keep the flow going here.
Okay.
You have every single concession that was asked of Kevin McCarthy.
And I was involved in this behind the scenes talking to people in early December, trying to avoid this Adam Schiff show that has been unfolding.
I think it's going to come to an end probably in the next couple of days, certainly by early next week.
Every single solitary concession, everything that they've ever wanted as it relates to appropriations, everything, the vote on term limits, the vote on the border, the motion to vacate can be triggered by one congressman.
One person.
One person.
So my argument is, what else now do you need that would ensure your proof?
For example, if he doesn't keep his promises, I promise you, Bernie, you have my word, and I keep my word, that I will lead the effort to remove him.
He has given more than any speaker or potential speaker in history.
And at some point, they have a job to do.
When can I talk?
Thank you.
Okay, so here's the thing.
He's the same man.
He's not a different man.
So if they're going to do that, I suggest they get it in writing on a legally binding document because it's going to say what he has to say.
Y'all know that.
Well, let me put your heart at ease because I know the people.
But wait a minute.
You just said something.
I want to help you on something.
They already have put it down on paper.
It's legally binding that they have that in writing?
They have a deal in writing.
Does it have the seal of the U.S. Supreme Court?
I tend to doubt it, but it's a promise that if he doesn't keep them, then he will be removed from speaker.
It will happen.
The fact that everyone is saying this is a showboat thing, it's not.
This is what our founders intended.
Which shouldn't it be just automatically that he moves into the speaker's office just assuming that he gets sick?
Are you happy with the investigations that he's announced that he's going to go forward with?
I'll believe it when I see it.
But you're happy.
Assuming he does, I know, but assuming he does that, you'll be happy.
Are you happy with the commitments to America that he signed and put a signature to?
You know what?
Those are all Trump policies.
Newton Rich.
You know what?
He's not a leader.
He's not that smart of a man.
Bernie.
Bernie, are you happy with the decision that he made and the commitments to America?
You know what?
I don't see any difference in what Trump did for us.
And like I said, New Troy Forum, he didn't do it.
All right, let me give Ginger an opportunity to respond to Bernie here.
Ginger, what's your response to Bernie?
We can't kick every politician out of government just because they've been in there.
You know, he's only been in government for 14 years.
We can't have people running the country that have zero experience whatsoever.
And he is not Donald Trump.
No one is Donald Trump.
I love Donald Trump.
I would love to see him back in the White House and maybe Donald Trump Jr.
running the Senate and Ivana running the Senate.
I don't know, but they're all great people.
But what we have to go with is what we have right now.
And what we have right now is a very small majority in the House.
We have no lead in the Senate.
We don't have a responsible cognitive president in the White House.
So the people that we do have that we have the majority with, we need to back them up a little bit.
And I'm sorry she said she didn't believe that people were showboating.
Well, when they sit there and smirk and grin and then go do an interview that, you know, I'm never voting for him no matter what.
He did meet all our list of demands, but I still don't like him.
I'm never going to vote for him.
You know, that's not representing the people of America.
That's representing your own personal opinion, and that's not what they're paid to do.
We'll give you the last word, Bernie, because you disagree.
Go ahead.
I agree with everything she said except about keeping people.
I think it's time for a change.
I don't think he's ever done anything impressive, and he cannot be trusted.
All right, then let me ask you, if you had your choice, who would you pick?
Well, I would love to see Jim Jordan, but I understand he doesn't want it, and so I do believe he would do the best job investigating on the committee that he's on because he's wanted that.
I've talked to Jim Jordan every day leading up to this day.
I've talked to him all throughout the Christmas holiday when I was off, and under no circumstances will he ever take it.
And I'll tell you something else that is factually accurate.
I'm not sure Jim Jordan can get to 218.
I mean, so, and that's sad to me, too.
You know, you have different factions.
You have people in very marginal districts.
There's a lot of considerations.
You've got the Freedom Caucus.
I've always been their biggest supporter.
You've got the Tuesday group, the Republican study group.
You have the more moderate wing of the Republican Party.
You've got different coalitions.
So it's kind of hard to please everybody in this process.
And I will tell you, the people that are looking, now that Kevin McCarthy's feet are locked in cement and the agenda's locked in cement, it's time to take the victory.
It's time to understand we won here.
And now let's act like leaders.
They need to act like leaders and fulfill the promises they made in the commitments to America.
Go forward with these investigations and get the country, start the process of getting this country back on track.
To me, it's always been about the country.
It's always been about people.
It's not about personalities.
It's, we have a lot of good changes.
And by the way, some of the 20 are responsible for that, and I applaud them for it.
But they've got everything at this point.
There's nothing left to give.
And now it's time to govern.
But anyway, I do love the fact that you both had a very civil conversation.
Ginger, thank you.
Bernie, thank you.
Back to our busy phones.
800-941-SHAWN, our number.
Let's say hi to, is it, ETHA is in the great state of Washington.
What's up, ETHA?
How are you?
Hi, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
Happy New Year.
Happy New Year to you, sweetheart.
Hey, I just wanted to say, in the words of Ben Franklin to John Adams in 1776, how dare you jeopardize our cause when we have come so far, right?
And, you know, if we don't hang together, then we will most assuredly hang separately.
And I think that Matt Gaetz and his coalition, and I do applaud, and I agree with both of your other callers, I do applaud both of their opinions.
But I think that Matt Gaetz, they're Bush leagues.
Sean.
The bottom line is that they're bush league.
And we are playing in the major leagues.
We're playing against the Yankees, right?
And we've got to go forward.
We need to do what the people that they were elected to do.
And they need to nominate people and get these committees started.
And I'm saying the 20 committees.
And for your listeners, it's not just the judiciary.
It's not just the House Oversight Committee.
It's almost 20 committees from agriculture to ethics to education.
We need to get this in place.
Otherwise, the Republican Party looks like a bunch of bush leaguers, in my opinion.
I think you're dead on accurate.
They've gotten the concessions, everyone that they've asked for.
You know, it's funny.
You said something that I have been saying from the beginning when I got wind that this was real and this was going to be a fight.
And some point early December, I don't remember when, I started a conversation with the people that I know, and I don't need to reveal sources here.
And I said to them, you're either all going to succeed together or you will all fail together.
And I was urging them to try to get this worked out before January 3rd.
It didn't happen.
I'm not upset that this is unfolding.
I do think the time is now ripe for this to be resolved.
It's time to get to the important work of governing for you, we, the American people.
You sent them there to work, not to fight each other.
There really is an enemy out there that's called socialism, and we need to defeat that.
And that's hopefully something we could all agree on.
I got to run, though.
I do appreciate Ether the call.
Great call.
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