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Jan. 7, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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Newt's Lessons - January 6th, Hour 2
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If you want to be a part of the program, uh Congress has now convened for the day, but they'll be back in action probably around the time we're on TV tonight on Hannity, and we'll have the very latest.
We have an audience show tonight, so it's a perfect night.
We'll get the views of uh just the people that make this country great.
Uh many of them are in the great state of Texas, where I am an honorary Texan, thanks to former Governor Rick Perry.
Uh Congressman Chip Roy of Texas's 21st district is with us.
And I gotta tell you, he's been working day and night, no sleep, to try and come to a consensus so that the Republican Party can get to the work and the business of the people in this country, and that would be the investigations.
Their conservative commitments to America, which I support completely.
Uh and I know a lot of people want this resolved, but also people have been wanting assurances that that Kevin McCarthy will keep his word and not get burned like they have in the past with people like John Boehner.
Anyway, Chip Roy is uh with us now, sir.
I know you've been working really hard.
You deserve a lot of credit.
I don't think people know the extent uh to which you've been trying to resolve issues and and make the this deal work so you can get to work for the American people.
Well, Sean, thanks for having me on and and uh appreciate it very much.
And and let me first just say that everything we're trying to do, all of us that are involved with this are trying to make sure that the swamp can't steamroll the American people, right?
And you and I share that goal.
We all do.
This place is so badly broken, and that omnibus bill in December is a perfect example of it, right?
Where you you steamroll over the American people with a massive spending bill that increases debt, etc., etc.
And usually defenses use as the excuse for that.
Now you and I, and all of us, we want a strong defense, but it can't be used as the excuse to keep spending money we don't have and funding the woke bureaucracy and the tyrants.
So that's the fight.
Well, well, one thing I think we need to make clear though is that McCarthy was fighting against that omnibus bill.
It was the first time ever, these Republican senators, what were there, seventeen of them?
Uh it is repulsive what they did.
And you and I share that and we're in full agreement on all of it, but it's not the House.
You guys in the House did not, you should have had a say in this, and you would have had a say had they did uh gone the root of a c uh continuing resolution.
Sure, and that's what should have happened.
But the point really is more about the way this place works.
So here's the thing.
What we've been fighting for, and what we have roughly achieved, we're still working out all the details here right now leading up to tonight, is is assuring that we have the accountability mechanism with motion to vacate, making sure that we've got a rules package that empowers rank and file members with single purpose bills, germane amendments.
That means the only amendments that can actually be attached or you know are actually related to the bill.
Uh we have a 72-hour rule to read the bill.
And now we've actually had a conversation about how the rules committee, the powerful rules committee, so for everybody listening, that's the funnel through which all bills get to the floor.
We've managed to get that to a place where the people on that committee will reflect conservatives.
Again, none of that stuff was accomplished without all of the efforts over the last 45 days.
And then we've gotten important budget constraints.
We've gotten important limits on spending that we will agree to cap spending at FY22 levels to hold the line on spending.
That we will allow for open amendments on the floor of the House to allow us to offer amendments to cut spending on appropriations bills.
We've got a provision in here to ensure that we could have an automatic continuing resolution kick in to so that we could take the government shutdown fear off the table by Democrats.
And importantly and lastly, we all talk about the oversight part, and you and I agree with that at Jim Jordan and I'm on the Judiciary Committee.
Uh but we needed a strengthened effort to go after the weaponization of government, and now we've got a really strong church committee style select subcommittee, attached to the judiciary committee to to have a big budget, a budget at least as big as the January 6th committee and staffing to go after weaponized government.
Look, I'm telling you, we made serious changes that will enable us to get serious reforms uh and to push back on the Biden administration, and it wouldn't have happened without the strong people that tried to stand up and and and fight.
And that includes Sean, some of the guys that I know you've been a little upset with, and some of our friends have been upset with, and and you know, frankly, we will we've had terse intense conversations.
This morning was a rough one.
These are my brothers and sisters who are who are conservatives, have been fighting for a better country.
I hope by tonight we'll get this squared away.
If this deal is fully done, we're a stronger house, a stronger Republican Party, we can check spending and hold Biden accountable and move forward towards 24, 25.
Listen, you know, I spoke to a lot of members.
If I have any frustration, Chip, it's that I saw this coming in December.
And and I wrote a lot of the guys, apparently I should have been talking to you because you seem to be the most effective at getting to a resolution.
And I I kept asking everybody exactly the very question that I think is pertinent.
What do you think you need to accomplish all of this?
What do you want?
What are you asking for?
Uh and then I would relay messages and and get agreements.
For example, the motion to vacate was a pretty big deal and and Kevin having a threshold of five, I thought was reasonable, and he reduced it now to a threshold of one.
Any one member, if Kevin doesn't keep his promises, can now basically have a no confidence vote in him.
And and I'm I'm fully supportive of that.
Um it's not about the personalities.
To me, it's has nothing to do with Kevin.
It has to do with the agenda.
And tell me if I'm wrong, because I see that the investigations are gonna happen.
We know what Jim Jordan's gonna do in judiciary, we know what Colmer's gonna do.
We know we're gonna have investigations into Fauci and the origins of COVID.
We know we'll have an investigation into the disastrous uh withdrawal from Afghanistan uh and other investigations.
They seem locked in cement to me, if I'm wrong, tell me.
And the commitments to America, well, that's the America first agenda that I think both you and I support fully.
So let me add a little uh context and flavor to that, because you because you and I agree.
Like again, this is all kind of those, you know, debates you have with the family around the table, right?
And some disagreements, but we're all on the same team.
Well, look, if you don't have a way to check the spending machine here, taking a step back.
So the omnibus bill that passed through that you and rightfully said should have been a CR that the Senate jammed us with.
So now what happens next year when we get that environment?
If we don't have the power through the rules committee and through our ability to stop things on the floor with open amendment votes, if we don't have the power to stop the defense machine to combine with the Democrat non-defense machine, we cannot stop the growth of government.
And if we can't stop the growth of government, we can't stop the weaponization of that government.
Trey Gowdy had hearings.
We can have hearings, but we need to defund the tyranny of the bureaucracy.
So we've got to have the tools to do that.
So look, I'm happy to have as many hearings we want to have.
I'm happy to subpoena.
We're gonna have to fight the subpoena, you know, get to get them to comply with the subpoenas, and we're gonna do all that.
But if we don't have teeth on spending, we can't stop what's been ticking you and me off and every American off.
When you find that the stupid FBI with a brand new 400 million dollar headquarters like Mitch McConnell just blessed and those eighteen Republicans just did.
Don't get me started.
It's a unconscionable defense.
They did that to screw the new Republican House majority.
Let's be honest.
And And some of the people that went along with it, I am stunned.
I can't believe they did it.
And I lost a lot of respect for a lot of them.
Let me let me just stay focused on this, though.
Um for example, the threshold needed the motion to vacate done.
Uh more Freedom Caucus members, for example, and there's 40 of you, but you know, remember Kevin has to deal with the study group, and then he has to deal with the Tuesday group and the Friday group and the Sunday group and you know, moderates and and even liberal Republicans.
So he's he's got a needle to thread here that's pretty tight for him.
Uh why he wants this job is beyond my comprehension.
I wouldn't want that freaking job.
Uh but anyway, you have more people on the rules committee from the Freedom Caucus.
Uh he committed to the votes on term limits, border security, appropriations, all separate, 14.
Every member has an opportun opportunity to offer and allow floor amendments.
All those checks I was my understanding is that was all agreed to.
And you know, when I go back when I got tried to get involved with some people, you know, that that was almost like a fate of complete a couple of weeks ago, and my frustration is they didn't hammer all this out before the third.
Yeah, so Sean, just to be clear, and I'm I'm trying to be careful here because we've got everybody now roughly on the same page.
So I'm not I you know, I don't want to throw elbow.
I don't I don't I don't want anybody But let me be clear.
Until today, we didn't have full resolution on all the things you just talked about.
Okay.
So for example, we didn't even have an offer on five on the motion to vacate really in our hands until Saturday.
We were still having some members who wanted one.
You can debate that, but I'm just telling you, we have to we have to hurt.
That is a hundred percent true.
That and that was one of the big items that he gave in on days before January third.
Yes.
And so then we were still working on the one, and then uh importantly, the rules committee were still getting in fact we're still hammering out every detail here over the last few hours.
And then importantly also the budget constraints.
Those are a big deal to cap spending at FY22 to force us to be able to say open amendments on the floor on appropriations.
That was not done until yesterday.
And then that and then the part about getting the church committee organized completely, and then the last part.
Let me give you an example about the Freedom Caucus.
Yeah, the Freedom Caucus doesn't shouldn't be able to just do anything at once, but we only have two members out of thirty-three currently.
Uh there's well, roughly 33 is what the majority size of the appropriations committee is.
You want to know why the appropriations committee pumps out big spending bills?
We don't have enough conservatives on it.
So we want a few more of your of your strong conservatives on there.
And didn't get and Kevin, my understanding is he agreed to that.
Well, again, I want to be careful there because the steering committee and the entire body chooses that.
We have general agreement that we need ideological representation across the committees that will enable us to do the work of the people better.
That's a generic kind of legalistic statement, but just trust me, we're working through to try to get it right.
But it took a lot to look people in the eye and say, we're gonna do this.
We've also been working with people across the other ideological spectrum.
Some of the big you know, appropriators, some of the Tuesday group, they've been sitting in the room.
I'm telling you, uh so more so many good relationships have been built by going through this process.
I just want people listening out there.
You might have looked at this and said, Well, what are you guys doing?
Whatever.
Look, we got there.
And now there's a lot of relationships forged, and we got to move forward.
There's probably some hurt feelings too.
We're working through that, but that we got to go to war with the Democrats, but to do that, you've got to have an army that's united around a kind of consistent purpose.
And I think we're there in a way that we weren't fully before, notwithstanding the commitment, because the commitment didn't address directly the spending problem.
This enables us to hit that.
Well, let me just tell you from my perspective, I'm one thing that happened a lot in the process from the people I was talking to, and I I regret now talking to you that I I didn't reach out to you during this time uh because you're you're very much solution-oriented as I am, and I think you see the importance of getting to work as I do.
Um, and I can tell you that I would ask people, what okay, what do you want?
And then I would be given a list.
I said, where's the list?
And then the list wouldn't show up for 48 hours, and I'd get frustrated.
And this was all in the lead up to January 3rd, and then all of a sudden then items on the list got checked off one after another, and then the list kept growing.
And I'm sure you've been in negotiations, you come to a deal, and then somebody comes back with 20 more things.
It's like, come on.
So So one thing that's important here is some of the things that we're talking about, they just can't be truly written down.
What we did when we put out our letter on December 8th, you'll remember that there were seven of us.
There was five who had publicly said they were not going to support Kevin.
Now, they had a lot of things they wanted to, but they just came out outright and said it.
My view was, nope, let's get seven of us.
We've got a group of us, and we put out a letter, and we're gonna say, here are the kinds of things we think are important for any speaker.
And we outlined those things.
You've seen that letter floating around.
That served as the nucleus for the last month for us to build to a place of getting agreement.
And it's taken a lot, and some of those things are not things you can actually fully write down, Sean.
You have to go sit down in a room and get it done.
You uh you remember a lot of your listeners remember back in school and college.
When did you do your best work to get your papers finally written and your your exams finally studied for?
The few the few days that I showed up, you mean?
Uh well, let me let me say this and and finish.
Uh, because this is really important.
Do I wish this all happened before this week?
Yeah.
Uh do I have any anger or angst or f frustration?
Not really.
If in the end we get to the place where this conservative agenda that by the way, I I had my own conservative uh caucus.
So it was called the Conservative Solutions Caucus in 2014.
I'm actually putting it up on my website today to remind people we all of this we've been discussing for all the years I've been on radio.
But I got to give you a lot of credit because you you brought together this this varying group of people and you're hurting these cats, and I believe that you're gonna be the one that ultimately gets this job done, and it's gonna be great for the American people.
And more importantly, you guys will get to work, which is more important.
I'll give you the last word, sir.
Well, Sean, I appreciate that.
Um, and and look, we we uh all I want people to remember out there the most important thing is we're coming together, we're gonna be united to go after Democrats, but remember that we have to fundamentally change this town because Republicans don't have the best track record either.
And you and I agree and your listeners agree that we have to do better than the past Republicans have done.
So we're trying to put those constraints in place.
Now let's go rock and roll.
And I think hopefully, hopefully that's where we are.
All right, I owe you uh a bottle of whiskey if you get this done.
Although if I send it, I'll probably get arrested and you'll get arrested for taking it.
Yeah, I don't know what the rules are, but whatever they are, I'll take whatever the rules allow.
But anyway, look, I I I appreciate it, and uh, we'll we'll talk to you soon.
All right, Chip Roy, 21st district, great state of tech.
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Well, a lot of progress is made uh today, and two more members will be coming back that will be voting.
So there's really six holdouts at this particular point in time.
And that would be Andy Biggs, Lauren Boebert, uh Crane, Arizona, Gates, Florida, Good Virginia, Harris, Maryland, and Rosendale in Montana.
So I mean, that's seven.
One of them voted, I forgot which one.
Switched their vote.
Oh, that's right, Norman switched.
Forgot about that, but he wasn't on my list.
Anyway, but you have, you know, people, really interesting people, like, for example, Byron Donalds made the switch today.
Paul uh Gozer, friend of this program made the switch today.
Uh Norman made the switch we like as well.
Uh Chip Roy, he made the switch.
And he, you know what?
He's the most articulate of everybody.
You know what I realized?
I should have talked to him instead of some of these other people from the beginning because he actually has a list.
And I kept asking, where's your list?
And you get the list.
And they get what they want.
Then the list changes.
I mean, it's Washington.
It's a swamp.
It's a sewer.
It's a sewer.
Holding them accountable.
Sean gets the answers.
No one else does.
America deserves to know the truth about Congress.
All right, 25 to the top of the hour.
Thanks for being with us.
800 941 Sean, as we continue to follow our clo our top story, uh 14 Republicans now moving towards Kevin McCarthy.
Hopefully, this process coming to an end.
Um, what is amazing in all of this is so many of people don't understand one part of this.
The agenda is completely set in cement.
How many of you have ever built a house?
How many of you have you ever roll cement, Linda?
No.
Oh, yeah.
You didn't.
Absolutely.
I'm a connoisseur of cement.
You're a connoisseur.
Absolutely.
I like the gray.
I also like gray.
Yeah.
They have a beautiful gray.
Grey.
Big fan.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
So you don't, you know nothing about cement.
I don't want to get buried in it.
No.
That's what I do.
No, we're planning on putting you in a compost pile.
Absolutely.
And using your body, you know, to flowers, tomatoes, corn.
Sunlight.
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You're playing with your blinds.
Yeah, I hit the button like that.
Why should you go up?
Why'd you go?
I should go down.
Uh sounds a lot like me.
I'm just staring at the uh wind, what do you call that?
Uh as the hundred and fifth speaker vote happens.
Yeah, exactly.
Uh by the way, oh, Hunter Biden's uh custody battle might reveal who his art purchasers were, his paint by number purchasers are.
Portraits of a crack addict.
Who paid for all this?
I'd like to know.
Um Biden fumbling during his speech, announcing expanding border measures measures, and discussing the replacement of Title 42, which is the public health law that was used to deter illegal immigrants at the border.
Um, however, he kind of screwed it up, and the president then predicted that Title 42 would be gone by the end of the year.
Title 42 is going away before the end of the year in terms of the Supreme Court.
My prediction is we're gonna have to use Title IX, he said, but of course he got that wrong.
Title Nine deals with the issue of equality in women and in sports, the NCAA, etc.
etcetera.
Anyway, here's Joe's latest butchering of the English language.
My prediction is, and not this particularly insightful about this.
Title 42 is going to go away before the end of the year in terms of the Supreme Court, my prediction.
And then we're gonna have to use Title Nine or Title Uh.
Eight, right.
Am I right?
Yeah, Title Eight.
Eight nine.
And uh, which is which we can implement what we're doing here, plus some other things.
By the way, you can hear the president's voices obviously deeper.
You know what it sounds like to me, because I I'm just guessing, I'm not playing doctor on radio, but I've used so much prednisone when I'm out on the road, and I used to do book tours and speeches and radio and TV.
You know, after four days of that, my voice is shot.
So to keep my voice open, you'd have to use prednisone, which is like the worst medicine in the world.
It's so is he having a fake book tour and his fake White House backdrop in his house?
No, but prednisone is a very powerful medication.
It's a powerful anti inflammatory.
In my case, it would lower the inflammation of my vocal cords, which t takes away your voice.
A lot of singers use it if they're out on tour and they have back to back dates, as you know, you happen to have a voice that does not go out.
I used a very complicated uh chemical called water.
Yeah, exactly.
But that doesn't work for everybody, and there's only so much water one can drink.
Uh that's what it sounds like to me, but I'm just guessing.
I don't know.
All right, let's get to our phones.
A lot of you um I I know that you know, maybe we'll put people that disagree on this on the line together.
For example, Ginger Ginger is in Georgia and Bernie is in Idaho.
Uh Ginger, say hi to Bernie.
Bernie say hi to uh Ginger, and uh welcome both of you and happy new year.
Hi here.
All right, so Ginger Ginger and Georgia, let's start with you.
What's on your mind today?
Well, I know that they had to be real careful in voting for the speaker of the house, and everybody needed to talk about it.
But some of these holdouts, in my opinion, are doing it for vingt vengeful reasons.
I mean, this is not how the real world works.
I mean, you c I can't be that way at my job, you know, without any repercussions.
And you know, this was our shining light after the midterm elections.
What we had was this little bit of advantage in the house, you know, where we could make some leeway and try and steer things back normal, if even just a little bit.
And for me, this is so disappointing because he was already the minority leader uh for speaker of the house.
And if these people are so stuck on that and they're just wanting to fundraise and get their name out in the front, then they should step aside and let somebody in there that's willing to work for the American people.
Because that's what they're being paid to do, not show boat.
What's your take, Bernie in Idaho?
Oh my goodness, it's so opposite.
Uh first of all, we don't want the normal.
Does anyone not agree we need new leadership?
He's been there for ten, twelve years.
What has he done?
And the people that uh sorry, Ginger, but you said they're show voting and they want money.
That's just the opposite.
If they want money, they would be voting for him, like the people that said, Oh, we won't vote for him, but they did, because he gives them the money.
That's his job.
His job is to run around, get money and give them money so they can run.
And we you know what?
My whole thing, he is not trustworthy.
None of us can trust him.
He threw Trump under the bus immediately, and he knew what was going on.
And I, you know, he just my whole thing is he can not be trusted.
And we need new leadership.
We need somebody.
Okay.
Now I've got to interrupt you a little bit, Bernie, just to keep the flow going here.
Okay, you have every single concession that was asked of Kevin McCarthy, and and I was involved in this behind the scenes talking to people in early December, trying to avoid this Adam Schiff show that is a where that has been unfolding.
I think it's going to come to an end probably in in the next couple of days, certainly by early next week.
Um every single solitary concession, everything that they've ever wanted as it relates to appropriations, everything, the vote on term limits, the vote on the border, the motion to vacate can be triggered by one congressman.
Um person.
So my argument is what else now do you need that would that would ensure your proof.
For example, if he doesn't keep his promises, I promise you, Bernie, you have my word.
And I keep my word that I will lead the effort to remove him.
He is given more than any speaker or potential speaker in history.
And at some point they have a job to do.
When can I talk?
Thank you.
Okay.
So here's the thing.
He's the same man.
He's not a different man.
So if they're gonna do that, I suggest they get it in writing on a legally binding document.
Because it's gonna say what he has to say.
We all know that.
Well, let me let me let me put your heart at ease because I know I know the people, you just said something.
I wanna I want to help you on something.
They already have put it down on paper.
And legally binding, that you have they have that in writing.
They they have a deal in writing, is it have the seal of the US Supreme Court?
I tend to doubt it, but it's a promise that if they do if he doesn't keep them, then he will be removed from speaker.
It will happen.
Um, you know, a show boat thing, it's not.
This is what our founders intended.
Well, shouldn't it be just automatically that he moves into the speaker's office just assuming because are you happy with the investigations that he's announced that he's gonna go forward with?
I'll believe it when I see it.
All right, are you but you but you're happy if he assumes assuming he does I uh I know, but assuming he does that, you'll be happy.
Are you happy with the commitments to America that he signed and put a signature to?
You know what?
Those are all Trump policies, New Dingrich.
Well, you know what?
He's not a leader, he's not that smart of a man.
Bernie Bernie, are you happy with the decision that he made and the commitments to America?
You know what?
I don't see any difference in what Trump did for us.
And like I said, new toilet for him, he didn't do it.
All right, let me give Ginger an opportunity to respond to to Bernie here.
Ginger, what's your response to Bernie?
We can't kick every politician out of government just because they've been in there, you know.
He's only been in government for fourteen years.
We can't have people running the country that have zero experience whatsoever.
And he's he is not Donald Trump.
No one is Donald Trump.
I love Donald Trump.
I would love to see him back in the White House and maybe Donald Trump Jr. running the Senate and uh Ivana running the Senate.
I don't know, but they're all great people.
But what we have to go with is what we have right now.
And what we have right now is a very small majority in the House.
We have no lead in the Senate.
We don't have a responsible cognitive president in the White House.
So the people that we do have that we have the majority with, we need to back them up a little bit.
And I'm sorry, she said she didn't believe that people were show voting.
Well, when they sit there and smirk and grin and then go do an interview that, you know, I'm never voting for him, no matter what.
Here he did meet all our list of demands, but I still don't like him.
I'm never gonna vote for him.
You know, that's not representing the people of America.
That's re representing your own personal opinion, and that's not what they're paid to do.
We'll give you the last word, Bernie, because you disagree.
Go ahead.
I I agree with everything she said except to k about keeping people.
I think it's time for a change.
I don't think he's ever done anything impressive, and he cannot again he cannot be pressed to talk.
All right, then let me ask you, if you had your choice, Who would you pick?
Well, I would love to see Jim Jordan, but I understand he doesn't want it.
And so I do believe he would do the best job investigating on the committee that he's on because he's wanted that.
I've talked to Jim Jordan every day leading up to this day.
I've talked to him all throughout the Christmas holiday when I was off.
And under no circumstances will he ever take it.
And I'll tell you something else that is factually accurate.
I'm not sure Jim Jordan can get to 218.
I mean so, and and that's sad to me too.
You know, you have different factions, you have people in very marginal districts.
There's a lot of considerations.
You've got the the Freedom Caucus.
I've always been their biggest supporter.
You've got the the Tuesday group, the Republican study group.
You have the more moderate wing of the of the Republican Party.
You've got different coalitions.
So it's kind of hard to please everybody in this process.
Um and I will tell you the people that are looking now that Kevin Kamar McCarthy's feet are locked in cement and the agenda's locked in cement.
It's time to take the victory.
It's time to understand we won here.
And now let's act like leaders.
They need to act like leaders and fulfill the promises they made in the commitments to America.
Go forward with these investigations and get the country, start the process of getting this country back on track.
To me, it's always been about the country.
It's always been about people.
It's not about personalities.
It's with we've have a lot of good changes.
And by the way, some of the the 20 are responsible for that, and I applaud them for it.
But they've got everything at this point.
There's nothing left to give.
And now it's time to govern.
Um but anyway, we I do uh love the fact that you both had a very civil conversation.
Ginger, thank you.
Bernie, thank you.
Back to our busy phones, 800-941 Sean, our number.
Uh let's say hi to uh is it Etha is in the great state of Washington.
What's up, Etha?
How are you?
Hi, Sean, how are you?
I'm good.
Happy New Year.
Happy New Year to you, sweetheart.
Hey, I just want to say, in the words of Ben Franklin, uh to John Adams in 1776.
How dare you jeopardize our cause when we have come so far, right?
And you know, if we don't hang together, then we will most assuredly hang separately.
And I think that um Matt Gates and his coalition, um, and I do applaud and I agree with both of your other callers.
I do applaud both of their opinions, but I think that that Matt Gates, they're they're Bush league, Sean.
The bottom line is that they're Bush League, and we are playing in the major leagues.
We're playing against the Yankees, right?
And we've got to go forward.
We need to do what the people they were elected to do, and they need to nominate people and get these committees started.
And I'm saying the 20 committees, and for your listeners, it's not just the judiciary, it's not just the House Oversight Committee.
It's the j it's almost 20 committees from agriculture to ethics to education.
We need to get this in place.
Otherwise, the Republican Party looks like a bunch of uh a bunch of Bush leaguers, in my opinion.
I I think you're dead on accurate.
The t they've gotten the concessions, everyone that they've asked for.
Uh, you know, it's funny, you you said something that I have been saying from the beginning when when I got wind that this was real and this was going to be a fight in some point early December, I don't remember when.
I started a conversation with the people that I know, and I don't need to reveal sources here.
And I I said to them, you're either all gonna succeed together or you will all fail together.
And I was urging them to try to get this worked out before January 3rd.
It didn't happen.
I'm not upset that this is unfolding.
Uh I do think the time is is now ripe for this to be resolved.
It's time to get to the the important work of governing for you.
We, the American people.
You sent them there to work, not to fight each other.
There really is an enemy out there that's called socialism, and we need to defeat that.
And that's hopefully something we can all agree on.
I gotta run though.
Uh I do appreciate Ether the call.
Great call.
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