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Jan. 6, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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12th Time The Charm? - January 5th, Hour 1

Sean kicks off the show with a verbal reprimand to all of the republicans who're claiming they'd "rather vote for a Democrat for Speaker than Kevin McCarthy..."  The news shows that Congressman McCarthy is winning the battle but Sean has some behind-the-scenes conversations to get the latest.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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If Kevin McCarthy is the Speaker of the House and we don't have an ability to ensure that there is oomph behind the agenda and energy behind our oversight, that the committee assignments don't mean that much anyway.
We had a deal that was not a selfish deal in any way for Kevin McCarthy to get him the gavel on the first ballot and he eagerly dismissed us.
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You know, Linda, I know I I communicate for a living, but I think sometimes I fail in my efforts to communicate properly so people understand.
I'm going to go through something slowly so everybody understands where I am on this.
And and by the way, there's some updates to give you.
Of course, we're now up to the eighth vote.
It's we're still stuck in the mud.
I think I can tell you behind the scenes there's progress being made, uh, but I can't specifically give you a number of where this is ultimately going to lead.
Um last night there were four specific concessions that Kevin McCarthy made that people have been asking for.
Uh one is a little nuts to me.
And that is he'd already given in on the issue of the motion to vacate with only a five-member threshold, which is meaning which means that at any given time, five members could force a vote to oust the speaker.
Well, he reduced it to any one member.
Now, that potentially, if you're dealing with some crazy people in a caucus, uh, could be disastrous for anybody, but he agreed to it last night.
That's what he agreed to.
Uh similarly, even though more than half the Freedom Caucus already supports Kevin McCarthy, he agreed to put more Freedom Caucus members, and I'm I'm friends with the Freedom Caucus, as all of you know, uh, on the House Rules Committee.
That's two additional seats.
Uh he's pledged to hold the votes that that some lawmakers felt was important.
I thought they were part of the agenda anyway, but anyway, term limits and border security bills.
Um, that's all part of his commitments to America and major changes to the appropriations process to prevent any omnibus opportunities.
In other words, he will allow floor amendments to be offered by any lawmaker.
Meeting in the caucus.
These are major concessions.
So what have I been saying that people aren't hearing?
Because I I think I communicate um I've been pretty clear about this.
It's not complicated what I'm saying.
Is if you combine the motion to vacate, now reduced to any one member as a threshold that can force a vote to oust Kevin McCarthy instead of five.
Um that that in and of itself is a massive concession.
In other words, if Kevin doesn't keep his promises, I keep hearing from the the 20, the 21, well, uh, we need to know, we need assurances that it'll keep his promises.
Well, that would be, you know, an insurance policy to hold him accountable, or at least to let the American people know that he's not keeping a promise.
But here's here's where I I kind of am at odds with and trying to understand, and let me be very clear of the 20 people.
I don't have any disagreement with any of them.
They tend to be conservatives, uh, most of whom I like.
I don't think they're being practical and reasonable on this particular issue, and here's why.
There's a reason why.
Is that the agenda is already set.
In other words, I don't think there's going to be any disagreement in the entire Republican caucus on the issue of Jim Jordan in the judiciary investigating whether the FBI has been politicized and the DOJ has been weaponized.
I don't think there's any disagreement.
I don't think there's any disagreement with Jim Comer, House Oversight Committee, leading the investigation into the Biden family syndicate, knowing now what we know that Joe Biden lied to the country about the issue of I've never once talked to my son Hunter about any of his foreign business dealings.
Well, we have all the evidence we'd ever want to prove that he lied.
And that would explain why he withheld a billion taxpayer dollars from Ukraine until a prosecutor was fired.
If he wasn't talking to his son about what was going on there and the investigation that the prosecutor was conducting on his son, I don't think he would have withheld the billion dollars.
So that is in stone.
Looking into the origins of COVID and Dr. Fauci, those are investigations that we desperately need answers to because we were misled, I believe, purposely on many occasions as it relates to COVID, and we lost so many Americans,
and the fact that our government, you know, allowed Fauci to continue uh all of this and and not get to the bottom of gain of function, who knew what and where, uh, monies from the Eco Alliance from the NIH that went to the Wuhan Virology lab.
You know, we need answers.
And that would include, by the way, the horrific withdrawal from Afghanistan.
So my point is this is I don't see one Republican disagreeing with that agenda.
Not one.
It's baked in cement.
McCarthy is committed to all of it.
Every Republican, I believe, I don't know one that doesn't agree with that.
Okay.
Now it's the other part of what Republicans need to do.
And remember, it was McCarthy that came out with.
It wasn't anybody else, it was McCarthy who came out with the commitments to America, put his name to paper, and this is going to be the agenda.
In other words, that too is set in concrete.
I'll remind you all go over it.
I've gone over it before.
An economy that's strong, fighting inflation, lowering the cost of living, uh, stopping wasteful government spending, that is raising the price of groceries and gas and cars and housing, etc., etc.
on a national debt, increase take home pay, how to create good paying jobs in the free market, etc.
Uh, making America energy independent and reducing gas prices.
That means he'll fight against the new taxes that Biden put on natural gas, crude oil, and coal recently.
And then, of course, the taxes that he put on corporations that'll be passed on to you, and on top of the uh the taxes that they put on people that have pension plans.
I can't believe they taxed that after the worst year with the stock market since 2008.
Then part two of the commitment to America, a nation that's safe.
It starts with securing the border, combating illegal immigration, and that means going back to the Trump policies, ending catch and release loopholes, uh, requiring legal status to get a job, etc.
Also reducing crime and public safety and supporting 200,000 more police officers through recruiting bonuses and opposing all efforts to defund and dismantle police departments.
That's all in writing.
Crackdown on prosecutors and DAs that won't prosecute crimes while permanently criminalizing all forms of illicit fentanyl that's killing our kids.
Defend America's national security, support our troops, invest in our military, select uh establish a select committee in our number one geopolitical foe China.
Exercise peace through strength, build up our military.
That's also in writing.
A future that's built on freedom, making sure every student can succeed in these failing schools we have, and giving parents a voice.
It's all in writing.
Advance a parents' bill of rights bill, recover lost learning from school closures, expand parental choice so over a million more students can receive education that their parents believe is best, defending fairness by ensuring that only women can compete in women's sports.
It's all in writing.
Achieve longer, healthier lives for Americans, personalize care to provide affordable options, better quality, uh trusted doctors, uh lower prices through transparency choice, invest in life-saving cures, improve access to telemedicine, which I think is going to be a big part of our medical future.
Confront big tech and demand for uh fairness, that too is in writing.
Providing greater privacy, data security protections, equipping parents with more tools to keep their kids safe online, stop companies from putting politics ahead of people.
Well, we're gonna have that big investigation.
Then it's also in writing, keeping government accountable, upholding free speech, protecting the life of the unborn and their mothers, religious freedom, safeguarding our second amendment.
It's in writing, holding Washington accountable, conducting rigorous oversight to rein in government abuse of power, corruption, provide real transparency.
It's in writing, save and strengthen Social Security and Medicare.
It's in writing, restore the people's voice and special treatment for members of Congress by repealing proxy voting and increasing accountability in the election process through voter ID, accurate voter roles, and observer access, meaning partisan observers, watch vote counting and instilling and institutionalizing in the elections integrity.
So we have confidence in the results and integrity in the process.
So that's all in cement.
I don't think any Republican disagrees with that, or any conservative disagrees with that.
And that's my point.
So in other words, and then if in fact he doesn't keep the promise, let's let's go to the worst case scenario.
To me, it's not about Kevin, it's about what is locked in.
All of this is now locked in.
The personalities mean nothing to me.
It's not about personality.
Um we had a lot of response last night to my uh debate with Lauren Boebert, um, who I happened to like and supported in her campaign and will support again.
And she's one of the 20.
So she put out a statement, a tweet yesterday that said uh that showed her saying that President Trump needs to tell Kevin McCarthy that, sir, you don't have the votes, and it's time to withdraw.
Okay, so I said, All right, let's let's use your math.
And it got a little heated and interruptive, and by the way, I'm listening to your complaints.
We've come up with a solution for that problem tonight.
I'm gonna give people 30 seconds to answer.
We'll run a clock.
But it's hard when you're when you have five or six minutes in a segment and somebody's not gonna answer a question, but it's not I understand people's frustration watching that, so I apologize.
We were putting in place uh a way to resolve that.
Um she didn't want to answer the question at first.
I said, Congresswoman, if that's how you're gonna do the math for Kevin McCarthy, he has over 200 people voting for him.
He needs two eighteen.
I said, the people that are opposing him are 20 to 21 people at this time.
I said, if you're telling President Trump that he needs to tell McCarthy that he doesn't have the votes, well, he's got 200.
Well, you don't have the votes with 20 or 21 either.
So we're gonna use your math.
Why don't you withdraw first, considering you have far fewer votes than Kevin McCarthy was 90% of the Republican vote?
Uh some people took that the wrong way, apparently, but um to me it's like and by the end of the interview.
I said, okay, let's say by the end of the week, let's say by Friday, you can't get to 30 anti-McCarthy votes.
Would you then follow your own math formula and withdraw?
And the answer was no.
So at that point, it's my conclusion was um, and people that you know generally agree can have disagreements.
Uh my point was this is now just completely totally personal.
So it doesn't matter what what Kevin McCarthy seems to do at this point, it doesn't matter what concessions he makes at this point, that there are just people that don't want him.
And then others would say, well, well, Hannity, I guess we just have to find somebody else.
Well, who is that person gonna be?
I mean, if Jim Jordan ran, which he's not, I've talked to him every day.
He's not running.
He's he's not gonna be an option, and I'm not even sure Jim Jordan can get to 218.
I'm not sure who at this point can get to 218.
The frustrating part for me, if there's anything that's frustrating, is that all 222 Republicans, I can pretty much say confidently, agree on the investigation agenda and agree on the commitments to America agenda.
So resolve this, it's locked in cement, and you have one member at any point can basically call for a no confidence vote, and that is the motion to vacate if speaker, if he became speaker, uh, in this case McCarthy, didn't follow through on his promises.
To me, at that point, it's not about personality.
To me, it's now about the American people, and they need to be put at the top of the list.
They need to be at the top of the pyramid.
The people that need to be served, the people that voted for all of these people.
They voted for this change, and while they're being somewhat patient now, they're getting sick of it.
And how do I know?
Because I'm hearing from a lot of you.
And there's only so far and so much of this that they're gonna take before they they really come down on the Republican Party, and that'll be justifiable at that point.
I'll tell you one thing that uh can happen, and I want to explain this to you.
Uh somebody called me, I'm not gonna say who tipped me off today, that there's a discussion about doing what they did, I guess, a hundred years ago, and that is just go to a straight-up majority vote in terms of okay, who do you want for speaker?
Now, five Republicans vote present or don't vote at all.
That would mean Hakeem Jeffries would become the speaker of the House.
That is not a viable option.
You have intelligent people that have a disagreement, and as I said to them in early December, numerous times, different people get in a room and hammer out a deal.
At some point, they owe all of us that.
At some point, we've got to demand that.
I mean, you look at Hakeem Jeffries, nobody knows anything about him.
By the way, he's the biggest election denier out there, denying Donald Trump was elected in 2016.
This guy has repeatedly said no limits at all on abortion and has called pro-life Americans cultist.
This is a guy in 10 years that has produced a whopping six bills that actually became law.
Um, you know, this is a guy that supports sanctuary states.
Uh, one of the things that I found most interesting about him is Hakeem Jeffries in New York, by the way, pays a whopping 213 dollars a year in property tack taxes thanks to a sweetheart deal under a law that he supported when he served in the state assembly.
The law provides developers and and residents property tax breaks over 25 or 35 years in exchange for at least 20% of the apartments affordable uh moderate to low income residents.
Okay.
Let me tell you something as a New York homeowner, 213 dollars.
Uh, it doesn't begin to match what most people pay.
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Um, you know, some people have been commenting that they're upset that the mob and the media and the Democrats are gloating over all this.
Um I don't live my life caring about what liberals think.
Why should we care?
It's it's now I care about getting the job done.
I care about the American people being served the way they deserve.
Um, all of this should have been worked out long before January 3rd.
It wasn't.
You gotta deal with reality.
The hand you dealt, not the one you wish you had.
You know, my surprise, James Carville went on MSDNC and said it's stunning out there because the Republican Party has traditionally been a party of honor, and you're supposed to throw the grenade after you pull the pin.
They pulled the pin and passed the grenade around.
I don't have a great explanation for it, and it doesn't make any sense.
It's politically, you know, some version of political suicide, and I don't think they care.
Um, I would think giving aid and comfort to people that claim to oppose these things.
Here's here's why we really do need to get to a speedy resolution at all of this.
And as I said, I'm not really I'm I'm not at the point where some people are uh on the ledge on this.
Uh am I getting a little impatient, a little ticked off?
Do I think people are being completely and totally and utterly illogical and unreasonable?
I do.
Is it frustrating that when you know an agenda is locked in and you know that the commitments are real, which they absolutely are, and that there's no disagreement on that aspect of where the Republican Party is, and you have a mechanism and an insurance policy on top of it, and pretty much every concession you can make has been made.
And meanwhile, you know, what do we have with the Democrats?
Well, Joe Biden just raised taxes on natural gas to 6.5 billion, you know, of course, breaking his pledge not to raise taxes on Americans making under 400,000 a year.
He put a 12 billion dollar tax on crude oil.
Well, that's gonna impact every American.
A 1.2 billion dollar coal tax.
Oh, that's gonna hurt many American families, especially the poor, the middle class people on fixed income.
Uh, if you think the stock market and your 401ks and your IRAs weren't hit hard enough last year, well, Joe Biden just added a $74 billion uh stock tax, which will hit your $401Ks, your IRAs, and your pensions.
Nobody's paying attention to any of that.
Or the $225 billion corporate income tax hike, which will be passed on to you, the American consumer, because, well, let's be honest.
It's pretty simple math.
Corporations don't pay taxes.
They pass it on to you.
2022, the worst year for the stock market since 2008.
So is there a certain urgency I have that I want these guys to get to work?
That I want these investigations to move forward?
Absolutely.
Is there a certain urgency that I want these agenda items on the commitments to America to be checked off one by one?
Absolutely.
You know, stories out today.
As they, you know, flail around, um, and we keep having, you know, vote after vote with the same result, and they're not making any progress, at least publicly.
I am being told privately that there is progress being made.
That I can pass on to you.
How much progress?
Maybe is it enough progress?
I don't know.
But as we're dealing with this, uh, in the meantime, in a year-end press release, the Biden Energy Department included its release of 190 million barrels of oil from the strategic petroleum reserve as second on its list of top 2022 accomplishments.
It's at the lowest level it's been in 50 years.
And now the cost of a barrel of oil to replace it is going to be astronomical.
And where we're going to get it, I don't know.
Because the one place we won't get it is in the United States where we have more resources than all of these countries combined.
By the way, another major retailer may be headed for bankruptcy, Bed Bath and Beyond stocks plunging this week, a long slide in the stock for home goods, a company, they're they're struggling to stay afloat.
By the way, the company in 2022 saw a lot of turmoil.
They closed over a hundred stores, made major layoffs at the corporate level, and even as they arrange hundreds of millions of dollars in financing as they scramble to keep their doors open.
Anyway, in a statement, Bed Bath and Beyond said it recorded net sales in in quarter three of 2022 of roughly six hundred million dollars lower than the same quarter of the year before.
That's a hundred million dollars, you know, more relative to the year before.
It's a lot of money.
Uh other bad news on the economy, automakers resort, you know, they now not resort, report the worst sales now in more than a decade.
U.S. auto industry posting their worst sales record in more than a decade, in part because of Joe Biden's supply chain snarls that he doesn't even recognize exist.
Industry-wide auto sales totaled 13.7 million vehicles in 2022, the lowest figure since 2011.
Even Cardi B, the the rap star is blasting Biden's inflation.
She went on a 60-second inflation rant on Twitter drawing support from a lot of people.
And the viral post racked up 63,000 likes on Twitter, and it can featured a PSA with the rapper uh talking about grocery prices tripling up.
What the F is going on?
Cardi B said she received the summary of the money that's being spent in her household every week and explained that recently life has become far more expensive.
Lettuce was like two bucks, you know, just a short time ago, and now it's like seven.
I know this because I go shopping myself every week.
You can see it pretty much every item you buy.
Former Fed chair Alan Greenspan, he now says a recession is most likely.
Anyway, he said on Tuesday that the U.S. recession is the most likely outcome as the central bank continues to tighten their monetary policy to curb Biden inflation.
I told you earlier in the week, since Biden's been president, the average person is have experiencing average householders paid over $10,000 in Biden inflation taxes.
The Biden economy saw America's household wealth plummet by $13 trillion last year alone.
$13 trillion.
And now he's adding all of these new taxes that's going to impact every America American on top of it.
And we're still battling over speed, you know, who's going to be the speaker, even though you have every assurance what the agenda is and an insurance policy to remove any speaker chosen with a pretty simple process.
Anyways, uh Biden's student debt relief now is quote comfortably within the law, the DOJ arguing to the Supreme Court, it's not comfortably within the law because we have three branches of government.
We have the judicial branch, they're going to hear this case, and they will resolve the differences between the executive branch that thought that they can just through executive fiat, write a check to all these Americans, but all spending constitutionally has to go through that other branch of government known as the legislative branch.
So I'm not sure that that's going to work.
By the way, we told you the story yesterday that the Philly Fed said uh all these claims of jobs that were created uh didn't materialize.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics is lying, they say when they created over a million jobs, and all they can identify is 10,000 jobs that were created last year, which by the way wouldn't surprise me.
Amazon is about to lay off 18,000 workers.
Uh that is a huge amount of money, uh, a huge amount of jobs being lost, rather.
Um so we got tough economic times.
Very tough economic times.
You already feel it yourself.
You know, now we have reports that what's two-thirds of the American people live in paycheck to paycheck, and that includes, by the way, people that are even making a lot of money or what you would consider to be a lot of money.
Now, when you have a certain salary, you buy a certain level of, say, a property or a home that you live in, and maybe a car that you buy, and then all of a sudden your money is less you're losing so much of your money because of this inflation tax that's hidden, and now all of a sudden you can't afford the mortgage on your home.
You can't afford the car payment that you were used to paying every month.
And what's what's your next option?
What's the next thing you get to do?
How do you get out of that?
It's pretty difficult.
A lot of people struggling unnecessarily, unfairly, and it's why elections matter.
Which brings me, by the way, and I'm not ready to talk about 2024 yet.
I know some of you want to just go right from one election to another.
Uh we got to take a break a little bit.
But I will say this because the time is right to talk about it now.
Uh, and by the way, Debbie Stabenow announced she's not seeking re-election in 2024, the senator from Michigan.
So there's going to be a very interesting.
There's going to be interesting races.
Obviously, the presidential race in 2024 will be interesting.
The Senate races favor the Republicans for sure for pickups.
Here's the problem.
And I fought long and I thought hard about this.
And Republicans better understand that they are running elections with like Apple 1.0.
Democrats are at Apple 14.0.
And what do I mean by That.
Notice that Joe Biden in 2020.
Notice that John Fetterman in 2022 and Katie Hobbs in 2022.
Notice they all followed the same pattern.
They spent hundreds of millions of dollars in negative ads against their opponents.
They weren't out shaking hands, kissing babies, holding rallies, giving speeches, offering media avails.
They all hid.
If they debated, and most of them didn't, it was after early voting went on for weeks and weeks and weeks.
I think by the time that Fetterman debated Oz, it was, you know, nearly a million votes cast in in Pennsylvania.
You can't have that.
All debates should take place before one vote is cast.
All of them.
And how long are we going to have voting in perpetuity?
But here's where Republicans need to understand something here.
Do you know there's only one state in this country that insists that the individual, the casting of ballot, must be the one that hands in the ballot?
You have 25 states that outright support ballot harvesting, in other words, allowing somebody else to hand in your ballot.
So what's happening?
Democrats, they're not running traditional election campaigns.
They're not shaking hands, they're not kissing babies, they're not giving speeches, they're not comparing and contrasting their views with their opponents.
They're not taking selfies, no rallies, no media avails.
They're spending money on negative ads, and they are focused on ballots.
Now, do I know exactly everything that they're doing?
No.
Do I know that what they're doing is working?
Yes.
It is obvious.
It is now more obvious and more transparent than ever.
Am I accusing them of breaking the law?
No.
Do a lot of these states allow this process to go forward?
Unfortunately, yes.
What I'm telling Republicans is you better fix the way that you run elections.
You need to study what the Democrats are doing, and you must match their efforts or outperform them in the ballot game that they're playing.
They're not running traditional election campaigns anymore.
This is a new environment.
Now, that also means that Republicans, they're gonna have to adjust.
For those of you that have been reluctant, for those of you that have been resistant at the idea of voting early, at the idea of uh voting by mail.
You've got to overcome your reluctance and your resistance.
Now, when you start winning elections, especially on the state level, where the Constitution provides for the states to decide, then you can put more integrity into the voting process in your state so people are confident in the process, believe in the integrity of the process, and will have confidence in the results.
They better get that together by the end of this year so that they're ready to hit the ground running in 2024.
That is the single most important thing Republicans in every state need to be doing now.
In 2021, I reminded everybody that they need to have voter ID, a signature verification, chain of custody controls, partisan observers observe the vote counting, up close and personal, start to finish.
Well, and updated voter roles.
Well, now we've got to also play the ballot game better than the Democrats are and understand what's going on.
Been on TV almost three straight days because of where he's been sitting on the House floor.
Um, good friend of the program, great, he's doing a great job uh for the state of Utah.
Uh, we'll check in on the media side of all of this with Joe Concha get his take and uh get a lot of your calls in here.
We also have the woke issues of the day, including now uh Linda's gonna love this.
The release we we have a new, what do you call it, uh, elected official in California that actually wants to be able to inform children about how to go through the process of being transgender without parental approval.
And Joyless Behar, her remarks on Republicans loving football, uh, and basically saying that these are heterosexual men that like tackle football.
You imagine if any man said something similar about a woman.
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Thoughtful, try to be funny, grounded, and no panic.
We'll keep you informed and entertained without ruining your day.
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I'm Ben Ferguson.
And I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes, inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
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