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I mentioned this a little bit earlier.
It bothers me not even in the least, Clearly some some unknown author, nobody I've ever heard of, uh, at Red State, Sean Hannity embarrasses himself in an attempted takedown of Lauren Boebert.
Well, first off, and I said it during the interview, I like Lauren Boebert.
I supported her re-election.
Uh that's a side note.
Uh, but she tweeted out or said yesterday to President Trump, he said, the president needs to tell Kevin McCarthy that, sir, you don't have the votes.
It's time to withdraw.
And I said, All right, Congresswoman, using your logic.
Going by your own math that you're using against Kevin McCarthy, you're only 2021 people.
So if Kevin McCarthy, who has 200 or over 200 people on his side, and you have 20, 21 people on your side, uh, that means you don't have the votes by a much bigger margin.
Why wouldn't you withdraw first?
And she kind of hemmed and hawed and didn't really want to answer the question.
Anyway, long story short, it showed up as the lead story on the view today, apparently.
I didn't see it.
I didn't even hear it.
I just read about it, and I laughed about it.
And here is by the Linda, by the way, I was I knew everybody in the Trump White House.
I never knew or remembered Alyssa Farrer Griffin.
Do you?
I because I didn't I know her from her previous days on the Hill.
Okay.
I never I never knew her in the Trump White House.
Has she ever been on our show that you recall?
No.
She was she worked in a congressman's office.
All right, so then she goes, so uh let me play for you.
Big boo-hoo to Sean Hannity.
Listen to this.
I say a big boo-hoo to Sean Hannity.
Fox News and the right wing media created Lauren Benton.
Right.
All right.
You know, you can't make any sense of this here to sort through all of it, is our friend Joe Concha is with us.
Uh Joe, glad you uh checked in.
How are you, my friend?
I'm doing well.
It's been a very interesting week back to work, right?
Since Tuesday.
You'd think.
Uh yeah.
It's it reminds me of uh, you know, that scene in Animal House where uh Kevin Bacon is bent over and says, Thank you, sir.
My have another.
It's like, how many votes are we gonna do here?
And see the same outcome.
It's incredible.
But that that clip you just played, you know, uh of uh the the gal from the view.
Remember, she was hired to play the conservative, Sean, right?
Just like Anna Navarro, who only endorsed Joe Biden for president, endorsed Andrew Gillam uh for governor against Ron DeSantis a couple years ago, and she's a Floridian.
Uh that's the thing.
Like it's funny who the conservatives are on there.
Basically your LinkedIn page, your resume only has to say uh I am Victory Alec against the former president and Trump and therefore uh can I have the job please and half the time you will be considered based on those considerations.
It's a whole industry out there of conservatives on CNN and MSNBC.
CNN just hired Adam Kenzinger, who's been auditioning for that job for two years and five minutes after he leaves Congress, not only is it is he a contributor Sean like I am at Fox, he's a senior contributor, so you know he's really important.
But yeah that that's that's the thing now.
Uh if you're antiway let me give you let me give you props here.
Because on October in October of twenty twenty one you tweeted out odds of leaving office signs with CNN four to five signs with MBC uh MSN uh DNC even.
You called this in October of twenty twenty one.
Former Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger, I am pleased to welcome him to CNN he's appearing tonight for the first time in his new role which is senior political commentator and Congressman we really are thrilled to have you on board.
So welcome uh welcome people have seen you over the past of course couple years of the January sixth committee and uh we're we're so glad to have you on board.
Um it's great to be on the team by the way.
Thank you.
By the way does that mean that Liz Cheney now goes to MSD and COVID No.
Liz Cheney announces she's running for president but if she doesn't announce that she's running for president then she'll go to uh M SNBC or or CNN.
And when she runs for president and it's probably it's it's almost a certainty that she will she will get maybe I don't know I'll quote Animal House again member Dean Warmer when he's giving John Belushi his grade point average and he says zero point zero.
She'll get zero point zero support but get ten times the coverage of any candidate not named Trump or DeSantis because she's a hero uh to everybody in the media and has a ninety seven percent approval rating there.
So yeah I mean look she was considered as one of Times persons of the year.
That's all you need to know.
So yeah it's either MSNBC CNN or run for president.
Either way, Liz Cheney isn't going away from our T V screens anytime soon.
So I did get some I think fair legitimate criticism last night because what I did have Lauren Bobard on, and again I I I tend to agree with most of her views, I like her.
I don't have a problem with her we're allowed to disagree my frustration what came when she wouldn't answer the question based on her use of math, you know, the president meaning President Trump needs to tell Kevin McCarthy, sir you don't have the vote, so it's time to withdraw.
And I said if we're gonna use your math you have twenty twenty-one people, why don't you withdraw?
And she didn't want to answer the question so it led to more interruption than I would normally like but uh you know I only have a limited time as you know on TV and I don't have time to to let somebody filibuster and not answer a question.
Yeah I mean the average segment is six, seven, eight minutes, right?
And and when you keep asking the same question over and over you don't get an answer.
Hey that made for for for good television and and you're you're you're gonna hold her to account.
And the thing is with the Matt Gates is and Lauren Bobberts of the world, I just don't see again specifically what I would ask her is what needs to be done in order for you to vote for Kevin McCarthy as House Speaker.
And with Matt Gates you get the feeling for example that he you don't matter what McCarthy does or acquiesces on it.
He's acquiesced on a lot that he's never gonna vote for him because now it's it's personal.
It's based on personal animosity, not so much on procedure or policy here.
And he he just voted for Donald Trump as speaker of the House uh today on the House floor as Matt Gates did.
So that this is all about performance art and all about clicks and all about getting more Twitter followers I suppose with Gates but it doesn't seem like we have too many serious people there.
And all I know is Ronald Reagan today would be called the biggest rhino in the Republican Party because he had the audacity to have a drink with Tip O'Me O'Neal uh the who was uh the obviously uh in in charge of the House at the time as a speaker of the House and he actually compromised and now that's a big no no and if you remotely do anything like that like McCarthy probably would then you're considered the enemy and that's not the way things work in Washington.
I know you've got to stick to your principles but at times you do have to give a little to get a little and and it seems that these twenty aren't willing to give anything.
They want McCarthy out.
The problem is they didn't offer any solutions as far as who they want and what they want more importantly.
And McCarthy gave four major concessions on the motion to vacate.
He went to a low level of five.
Now we reduced it to one member who could force a a vote to oust him instead of five, which I think is nuts, but okay, he agreed to it.
Uh he gave more House Freedom Caucus members uh he put them on the rules committee, gave them two more seats.
He pledged to hold votes on lawmaker term limits and border security bills and major changes to the appropriation process to prevent another omnibus like what happened in the Senate from ever happening again.
Those are major concessions.
My argument is very simple.
With the motion to vacate, you can you can at any time be call for a vote now to try to get rid of Kevin McCarthy if he doesn't keep his speakers.
But my bigger argument, Joe, is everything is is baked in cement here.
He's committed to all of the the investigations that every conservative has wanted.
He's also committed to the the commitments to America that he ran on about our borders, about our economy, about uh a future built on freedom, about energy, about crime, you name it.
It's all there in his agenda that he laid out for the election.
And by the way, the House is the only body that had two consecutive elections where they have picked up seats.
So yeah, i if you're conservative, you you look at this and you say, okay, these are all the things that we want to accomplish.
Yet again, I I think it goes back to the the whole personal animosity part about all this.
But but in the end, if you're Kevin McCarthy, Sean, I I hate to answer your question with a question, do you even want this job now at this point considering?
No.
I would I don't think anybody would should want that job.
It's a follow gavel at this point, right?
It's not to saying you're being held hostage by about four or five people who could decide your agenda.
I I'm not saying it's like Manchin and Cinema, but Mansion Cinema had tremendous power in the Senate because they knew that anything that had to be passed had to go through them.
And it came down to those two folks for the most part, and they did resist.
Here McCarthy's gonna run to the same problem in the House, except you could expand that number by maybe two, three, four times.
And if that's gonna be the case, then he's gonna be held hostage on everything.
Uh if I'm in my I would, you know, maybe back out at this point and say, all right, Steve Scalise, take it away.
Seriously.
I I don't even know if Scalis could get the votes.
I don't know if Jim Jordan could get the votes.
I don't know of anybody that at this point that's gonna be able to to get enough people to support them.
What I am afraid of, and I know it's been floated out there, is that they do what they did back, I guess a hundred years ago, and make it a simple majority vote.
However, if five Republicans vote present, guess what?
Hakeem Jeffries would be the speaker.
Now that that can't happen under any circumstances.
That would be a nightmare of a nightmare on Elm Street scenario for Republicans if that ever happened.
And the thing is, you could almost see Mac Gates, right?
I I keep quoting movies, I'm sorry, but you know, in in in one of the Christian Bale Batmans, uh Heath Ledger played Joker, and at one point uh the the guy uh i it's being explained to Batman like uh this guy isn't about the money.
And and and uh at one point i i the person says some people just want to watch the world burn.
You know, and with Gates, it's almost like he's willing to burn down everything just to make a point, and at some point you gotta say, look, this is not what's best for the party or for the country.
But with Gates, I I I don't know if he even cares anymore.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back more with Joe Concha than your calls eight hundred nine four one Sean.
Do you think cooler and more rational heads will prevail today?
Yeah, you know, I think so.
I I think um for for some people.
I mean, the reality is there are some people who, in their uh estimation, there's no way they're gonna be able to support Kevin McCarthy.
And some of the people who you know may have been willing to get behind Kevin McCarthy at some point, maybe the week before or the day before, uh, and and for a few people, maybe even the morning of that first vote on January third, kind of hardened up to say, no, there's no way they're gonna support Kevin McCarthy.
Uh the tough part is I think the number that will never vote for Kevin McCarthy is more than is more than four.
All right, we continue with Media Expert Extraordinaire.
Joe Concha is with us.
Look, I've known Matt Gates a long time.
Um, I know he has strong feelings about this, but I gotta believe in every one of these Republicans that there is a tipping point where they understand that they've got to put the country and every Republican in every district ahead of whatever else they want.
Now he even made the comment that Kevin might be the speaker and he's going to be in a straitjacket.
I would argue Kevin already is in the straitjacket.
I mean, a motion to vacate is a motion to vacate.
If he doesn't stick to the stated agenda, and I have every confidence that he will, because he's he's locked in at this point, and to try to to try to reason with people on the other side right now is just ineffective.
It's like they can't hear you.
They don't want to hear you.
I hear no evil, see no evil, you know, they just don't want to they don't want to hear an intelligent argument of common sense.
There's nothing McCarthy has the power to do that that they could not take retribution on.
Yeah, and I think the problem is now as this and this public embarrassment that's that's happening with Kevin McCarthy right now.
You know, uh loses an eighth vote, loses a ninth vote.
It just i i by the time he either if he does somehow get there, if if the gates is of the world and Lauren Bobberts of the world change their mind, he he's very weakened at that point, both within his party and the way the Democrats see this.
So uh this is uh not the way that uh people thought things would go uh after Republicans took the house two months ago, that's certainly for sure.
But if they want a bigger majority, this all wouldn't be happening, Sean.
What do you think the answer is at this point?
What do you think the change, what do you think tips the balance in this?
I I think it's McCarthy says hope back scalice.
I I don't see any other I don't see any other scenario, to be honest with you.
And what makes you think that Scalise would get the votes?
Because then I guess people want to get this over with, and if McCarthy says he's on board with it, then all the McCarthy people go along, and obviously that the the Gates and Bobberts would support him over in McCarthy, and then that would be the end of it.
Again, these these aren't you know the best scenarios in the world if you're a Republican, but I I I I I uh you try to work this out.
You try to play it out, and you don't see any scenario where there's a there's a happy ending for Republicans here where you have a strong house speaker who can move ahead with all the investigations and agendas that that have been laid out beforehand.
Well, I'd like that to get moving as quickly as possible, but it is interesting, as powerful as the squad was, they never pulled this on Nancy Pelosi.
What does that tell you?
Well, they would vote against Pelosi at times, but that's when they knew that Pelosi already had the vote, so it was a show vote, right?
Uh it it tells you that, boy, they are unified on the Democratic side.
But I I guess maybe the bright side, if you're looking for anything in this, is that maybe it's not good to be completely unified on everything the way the Democrats are.
That's North Korea, right?
That's China.
They're the ones who vote 100% to zero on things.
So at least it's good to see this sort of debate happening.
Uh that's democracy is messy as they say, but at some point, you have to put your cards in the table and say, okay, I I think I got everything I wanted out of this pot, and and and let's move on to the next hand.
Uh right now it appears that that's not gonna be happening anytime soon.
Listen, I'm not in a state of panic as I hear some other Republicans are.
I I I agree with you or tend to agree with you, but there's gonna be a limit to the patience of the American people on this, and I think they're getting very close now.
And when that moment comes, then those phones are gonna be ringing and singing like never before.
Uh Joe Concha, great prediction.
I gotta give it to you.
Uh you predicted in October of 2021, uh, Adam Kinziger would in fact sign with either MSDNC or CNN.
In fact, he signed with fake news CNN.
He fits in perfectly there.
Uh anyway, thanks for being with us, sir.
I also predicted the Jets would go to the playoffs in October of 2022.
So sometimes these things go sideways, Sean.
I just want to put that up there.
You know, you I he here you could have left on a good note.
You have to trash yourself.
I mean, what are you thinking?
I'm a humble guy.
What can I say?
I just want to say I'm not sure.
Okay, now you're sounding like simple man Bill O'Reilly.
You're not a humble guy.
Let's be honest.
You're a great reporter.
You're the the best media uh guy out there.
You deserve your own show on Fox.
I hope you get it.
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Linda, you might not know this.
The out in California, they just had elected to their state assembly a Democrat who publicly favors teaching children how to get sex change operations while keeping their plans to transition a secret from their parents.
Guy's name is Rich Chavez Zebur, Z-B-U-R, I don't know how to say it.
Anyway, longtime Democratic activist.
And anyway, he's led a radical group that worked to make California a haven for kids that wanted sex change operations without parental consent.
Now, how why is it?
What arrogance?
What what profound arrogance to think that they uh in a position of a school board or a teacher or legislator that they think that they can just override the values and the will of parents in terms of raising their children the way they see fit is breathtaking to me.
Is this really where society's going?
Is this really now the new Democratic Party?
Well, I think if we're being honest, all things equal.
I don't know, Chavez, but I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say that, you know, anybody who wants to sexualize children and hide it from their parents.
We used to call them pedophiles.
You know, that's what we call them back in the day.
If they said, hey, we're gonna do this, but don't tell your parents.
It's I think it's a little different.
Pedophilia doesn't have to do with sexual activity, but well, it deals with sexual abuse, but I'm saying, like if you're dealing with a small child and you're trying to convert them from who they are, or overpower them, or make them do something that they wouldn't even otherwise even be thinking about if it wasn't for you getting in their face about it because typically kids in the first, second, third, fourth grade are not thinking about their gender transition needs.
I mean I'm just going out on a limb being a parent.
Uh in other news, the U.S. Supreme Court has now been asked to intervene in the legal battle over New York State's concealed carry law.
The Attorney General of New York is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to allow the state's concealed carry law to stay in effect.
It is the latest in a string of legal motions surrounding the law since it went into effect in September.
This request coming after a lawyer for the gun owner challenging the new state law asked the Supreme Court to step in last month.
We'll see what happens there.
We mentioned earlier Joyless Behar ripping heterosexual men for supporting tackle football.
You can't make half this stuff up but it's all true.
Uh what else do we have out there?
Oh can I just make a comment about the concealed carry by the way people who get their guns legally people who actually go through the process like me.
Like you I mean I can remember the first time I'm trying to remember when we started that it might have been decades like a decade ago like over ten years ago.
But you wanted to get a concealed carry because the amount of death threats we were getting and I remember talking to the MYPD and the detective's office and they're like oh yeah you know you need like a thousand to two thousand death threats and I was like what?
I couldn't eat like fast in New York and I was like well that's no problem.
I can get that free tomorrow.
That's not that's not a problem.
And the guy laughed and I was like it's not funny I'm serious.
But for the average person you know and I we say this a lot when we we talk to our various gun experts that we have on and John Lott being one of them you know more guns less crime and he's in like his fifth version of that book.
But you know statistically right and unlike Joy Less Behar, you know we give our sources and and the pools and all that we take from people who are defending themselves, defending their homes or you know are able to kill an intruder or whatever you know these are the people that are you know behaving properly with their guns, have them in the safe you know the people that are out there in Chicago that are killing each other every single weekend or in Philly every single weekend or New York City, these are illegal guns.
Illegal guns are all over the place and they're coming from our border.
I mean just ask anybody who works in the ATF.
Well this is the same New York State as we have been saying on a daily basis has a new law that went out into effect this week which is that you can you can put in your compost pile grandma, your mom, your dad, any dead body you can use it for compost.
Now, they do have a little process with it, and you have to follow it after 30 days.
You put it in one pile, and then in 30 days, you move it to the other pile.
So imagine your mom and dad drop dead, or God forbid, grandma or grandpa drop dead.
You're going to put them in your compost pile, and even their bones will be put in there.
And then you'll use it next summer, what, to grow your crops if you have a small garden or grow your flowers?
We'll just use mom and dad's ashes to get there.
Unbelievable.
I'll tell you right now, and I'm going to say this, and you're going to be surprised.
If somebody writes in their will that they want to be cremated or...
or they want to be composted or they want to be put in a big box or set out whatever it is that's fine.
That's your business but if I was to buy a house and you buried your grandma in the backyard and you got beautiful tomatoes, I'm telling you right now that should be in the disclosure form when you buy that house.
I want to know I want a line item that says by the way I used dead bodies to make that garden.
So it doesn't matter it doesn't matter how good a deal you might get on the house you're not buying that house.
I'm just putting it out there.
You just I you know these are discussions I never thought we'd discuss ever in this program whether or not in Congress that there would be a discussion about whether or not biological men have children to bear them.
Yeah.
And yet this is now where we are all right let's get to our phones.
We have a lot of frustrated people out there and I know people are upset.
Roger Georgia how are you?
Glad you called sir.
Happy New Year.
Um I'm doing well Sean how are you?
I'm good my friend.
Yeah this this whole process has been very frustrating.
I mean I've been a since I've been an adult I've been a Republican my parents grew up diehard Democrats and when I got old enough to think I decided I don't like this and watching this fiasco the last few days to the point even AOC makes sense sometimes.
I'm like it makes me think I mean and I heard on your show in Laura Ingham's the other day it's like what's the end game and uh and I use this example.
I'm sitting in a gas station right now drive getting ready to drive and if I need gas my cars on empty, I've got to either fill up at this gas station or walk the hundred miles I've got to go.
I've got to have an alternative.
And it doesn't seem like they've got an alternative.
If they like McCarthy or not, that's their opinion.
But as you said on your show last night, 200 outweighs 20.
And then I heard New Gingrich says, I mean, what's the end game?
Should some of this not been in negotiations prior to the Congress taking over.
I mean Listen, I have the I have the text messages I sent to certain people uh in December, long before January 3rd, telling them I actually said this is going to be a shift show if you don't work this out now.
And I advised them.
I said, get in a room, check your egos at the door, check your phones at the door, and hammer out an agreement so you're prepared on day one to serve the American people.
I said it to many of the people involved.
I I'm not going to share who I I shared that with, but I saw this coming, and sure enough, now we're living it.
It'll it'll end, I'm not worried about it ending, but it was all unnecessary.
An unforced era of a pretty high magnitude to me.
But Sean, my biggest fear is two years from now, we've got a presidential election.
Is this going to be the campaign of Congress, Senate, President?
Is they the Republicans are dysfunctional.
Look at what they did.
They I mean we need not only these next two years, we need to retake the Senate and the presidency in two years.
If I were a Democratic strategist, I'd be keeping track of this and and I'd be using it in the right.
I I bet every dollar I have that the issues that will drive the 2024 election, we don't know yet.
Now, do I think it certainly will be the economy?
Peace and prosperity are always on the ballot.
It'll be security, it'll be the economy, it'll be a lot of issues, but it's too early to tell.
And we just came out of an election.
I'm not I'm not even ready to talk about the 2024 election for six months.
And that'll take on a life of its own at its appropriate time.
But hang in there.
It's this will get resolved maybe a lot longer than we want, but hang in there.
It'll it'll happen.
It has to.
Uh good call, my friend.
God bless you.
Uh Jim in Michigan.
What's up, Jim?
How are you, sir?
Hey, Sean.
Thanks for letting me call in.
Um I see Stabenow is retiring.
That's a good uh that's good news.
Yeah, she's my age, 72, so God bless you if she's ready.
Um, but uh at least she's figured that out, and some other people have it like Joe Biden.
But but anyway, I want to take a whole different slant on this.
I've been listening to you and and and the media.
I think I don't see anybody really getting to what's really going on.
Yes, I'm in favor of what's going on.
I'm not frustrated about it.
I like the way it works.
This is democracy.
What's happening, and I and this is where my point is, is that these guys want to change fundamentally the way the rules of Congress work.
A um a guy, uh a freshman senator has no chance.
You might as well just stay home.
You can't put up an amendment.
Yeah, or he can't they can't propose it.
You can't put amendment on the floor.
Nothing goes to the floor unless the powers that be already know they're gonna get their vote.
And that's wrong.
Um I'm uh old, I remember because I had a few more birthdays than you back in the 50s, Adley Stevenson, John Kennedy, those presidential fights, they'd go to the floor of their conventions, and the individual delegates could fight out the the the party platforms were argued out in the open, and they voted on things, individual planks one at a time, and that empowered the everyday uh delegate.
So the everyday congressman has no power today.
So these guys finally are standing up.
I think they're heroes, they're finally standing up and say we want these rule changes.
And McCarthy's giving them to them bit by bit by bit.
But I think he's pretty much giving in on it all of it at this point.
He he probably has, but that's not the point anymore.
Because now, because he fought so hard to not give it to them, and he came cracking.
So now now it's gonna be about anger and it's gonna be personal.
No, no, no, no, no.
No.
He he can't be the one.
It's not in his heart what he agreed to.
So he can't be my leader.
Hang on one second.
If he if you fought hard for, let's say, the motion to vacate, and at first it was you'd need five members, and as of last night it came down to one member.
Uh Freedom Caucus members, two seats were added on the House Rules Committee that addresses a lot of what you're concerned about.
Uh the pledge to hold votes on term limits and border security bills and major changes to the appropriation process to prevent, you know, another omnibus by allowing floor amendments offered by any lawmaker.
You just mentioned that.
So all of that's been agreed to.
So now that na now that they finally have hammered out the agreement part of it, now, okay, we still don't want you.
That sounds then why did you negotiate with them?
If you never were gonna support him, even if you got what you wanted, why did you even s uh why did you even sit down and negotiate?
The fact that he had to fight so hard to not give it to them.
That's why they don't trust him.
I wouldn't trust him.
But there's some practicality to all of this.
Understand if if one member on any given day ha wakes up in a bad mood and doesn't like his hairstyle, they they can move forward with the motion to vacate and all other business stops.
I mean, s see what what I'm looking at is maybe I'm looking at it differently than you, and I don't want to be repetitive here.
But everything is pretty much locked in cement, and I don't see any disagreement on either side as it relates to what is most important.
And what's most important are the investigations that need to take place, and the next most important thing is the agenda items that Kevin has committed to in writing.
It's all the American first agenda.
So if we get to this point where we're now in agreement, and then you say, you know what, I still don't want you.
Well uh at that point, it's that to me that's negotiating in bad bad faith.
Am I wrong?
I don't think so.
I think that because they had to negotiate so hard, they lost faith in him.
And you but I I have no faith that we're going to have a Jim Jordan on judiciary come up with all these um things.
That's already that's that Jim uh listen, I talk to Jim Jordan every day this week, and I'm t I'm telling you, there will be he has no restrictions on his ability to investigate.
None whatsoever.
I would tell you if he did.
But guess what?
Kevin McCarthy can decide that nope, I'm not bringing it to the floor.
That's too much power.
And that's what has been happening.
But I just don't know before.
I just got done telling you that floor amendments can be offered by any lawmaker has been agreed to.
I just want somebody that really believed those points in their hearts.
It doesn't matter if he believes it because that's gonna be in writing.
I know.
And and here's the thing, I'm being here.
So in other words, you have your insurance you have an insurance policy and you're dismissing it.
No, um it's it's that you these guys the leader is gonna govern from his heart, and and and if I got a leader that I know is giving me these points, but every time he has to give them to me, he does it grudgingly.
I don't want him.
And I think that's I mean, I know you don't I I'm just saying that's what I think these guys are doing.
Okay, I think that's where the 20, what I call them heroes of 21, I think that's where their heart is.
They don't trust him.
They don't trust the old time politician.
Um they've seen it too many times.
They Sean, um okay.
Listen, I'm I'm listening closely to you.
I've heard your argument kind of talking in circles now, but I I think the assurances are there.
I understand your points, and I respect you and I respect them.
It's not a problem for me.
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