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Uh we have Mark Morgan, the former acting custom and border patrol commissioner and heritage visiting fellow.
We've got Tom Holman, former acting ICE Director and Heritage Visiting Fellow.
And I hope that this doesn't destroy their credibility, but they're also friends of mine.
I don't know if they'll admit that on national radio, but I think the world of these guys, and that's demonstrated where when we get together, we're giving each other a hard time and not cutting each other any slack.
But these are guys they know about the border.
They know about uh border security, and they've seen it work and they've seen it not work.
Uh Mark, Tom, welcome to the Sean Hannity show.
Thanks for having me.
And you know what?
I'm proud to call you a friend, Louie.
Oh, good.
Well, on on national radio.
That's I'm thrilled.
Well, look, guys, uh, so you saw the big news, the Supreme Court is saying, uh, we're gonna hold Title 42 in place.
But Mark, I would just say in an article where you made the outrageous statement that, gee, the Biden administration hadn't been enforcing it anyway.
That's right, Louie.
There's two important things, with or without Title 42.
We are and have been in the midst of the worst catastrophic self-inflicted border security crisis in our lifetime.
The past two years, again, with Title 42 in place, we've seen over six million encounters and the godaways.
A part of that six million, again, historicized, uh, one point two million godaways among the gotta ways or criminals, uh, national security threats.
We know that we've had unprecedented number of drugs uh getting it across the border, not being seized, killing Americans every single day.
We could go on and on.
So make no mistake, even if Tat 42 stays in place, we are still in the midst of an unmitigated catastrophe along our Southwest border.
And the second thing that I'll say to this is Tatto 42 is not a border security tool, authority, or policy.
It's not.
It's a public health policy.
And so that's why I'm so infuriated with all due respect that the the Republicans participated and they passed them the omnibus bill that all they did was throw millions more, a couple of billion uh at DHF, not to secure the border, but to continue just cover up the crisis they've created.
Yeah, and one of the things that some of us found before the vote, and we were pointing out to others, you've got sections there of money going for border security and to hire uh more agents, but then it was a provision that specifically said this money cannot be used to secure the border.
I mean, uh it it's so outrageous what they are doing.
Uh Tom, you heard Mark.
What are your thoughts on this?
Well, me and Mark are 100% agreement.
And Title 42, we've got to remember Title 42 was not a game changer.
Title 42 certainly helps board control, and not only standing in place, it will help them a little bit more because if they would have lifted it, there would have been more of crossing the border, and you know, 70, 80, 90 percent of agents are already off the line, you know, with this crisis processing people.
So they would have pulled more agents off the line, which means more fat markets in here that kills Americans, more sex trafficking women and children.
Uh more vulnerable to non-suspected terrorists when there's nobody patrolling the border.
But to be clear, Title 42 under President Trump and and Markers, they removed you know over 80% of everybody.
Under under Biden, if you look at the data in the C BP website, they've actually released more people into the U.S. than they returned on a total of 42.
And I've said for weeks, I'm sick and turned the Secretary and saying, you know, it's a court decision, this is it's a CDC thing.
Yeah, I get it.
Well, if you really want to secure the border, Mr. Secretary, the federal courts have said to remain in Mexico is legal.
You can you can re-implement that today.
And that was a game changer in the Trump administration.
If you really want to get the border relief, if you really want to secure the border, like you keep saying you want to do, prove it.
Put the remainder of Mexico back in.
Well, you got my orcus that says uh no, it's already secured.
We've secured the border.
We had a caller a while ago from uh Amarilla, Texas saying we got drug cartels set up up here in the panhandle of Texas.
Uh isn't that uh appropriate to understand that there are cartels that are setting up in cities all over the country.
Yeah, Louis, well, you're not Mark answered that.
Yeah, or Tom didn't mean to cut it.
Yeah, so Lou, you're absolutely right.
That's one of the the false errors that this administration, the open border advocates are just simply lying to the American people about the Mexican cartels don't just operate in Mexico, and they don't even operate in the entire Western Hemisphere.
Well, they do, but that's not it.
They're also in the United States.
Uh that's how they're able to uh fulfill their criminal uh operation is because they do have an extension and they operate in the United States.
And look, the Secretary, you mentioned this is why I call Secretary Myerkos the most dangerous man in this uh in the Biden administration, because not only he is he the chief architect of the current dangerous and deadly open border policies, but he's lying to the American people.
I mean, look, when he tells the American people that are borders secure and and that that our borders are closed, I think the American people can see with their own eyes.
All you have to look at is a couple of statistics.
One, one point two million God aways.
Those are illegal aliens because as Tom said, 70, 80, 90 percent of border tool resources are pulled off the line.
They're relegated being a federal travel a piece.
They process millions of illegal aliens.
And what happens to the Godways?
That's where criminals are getting through potential national security threats and drugs.
No, Mr. Secretary, you're lying to the American people, our borders are not closed.
Yeah, well, Tommy Matt is saying I'm disappointed, I'm disgusted with the 18 Republican senators that voted for the omnibus bill, because many of them have been down to the borders doing their dog and pony shows, saying, hey, this is a terrible thing, we got to do something about the Biden administration as reckless, and we got more fentanyl and and and gang members and criminals come across the border, and this administration is doing nothing.
Why know 18 Republican centers that did nothing?
Because they voted for the omnibus bill that didn't give a single dollar to border security.
Well, not only that, it gave up our leverage to try to force the administration to do something about it.
Absolutely.
And I know, you know, we talked about it individually before about uh Article 4 section for the United States government guarantees that they'll protect uh the state, each state from invasion.
And I know y'all know your history back 1916 when uh Pancho Villa came across with some folks uh around New Mexico and there were Americans killed.
Heck that was dozens as I understand it, and yet you've got millions, and I don't know of any specific definition on what an invasion is, but it's gotta be somewhere short of a million, and you guys are talking about millions, not just a million, but millions of people just since Biden has been in office.
Uh I I've been advocated, see what you think.
I I'd been advocating that uh since they didn't keep their guarantee, and yes, we know the Supreme Court has said only the federal government can enforce the immigration laws, but when it comes to an invasion, every state should have the right to stop it.
Our our governor in Texas, Governor Abbott has declared an invasion, he's got National Guards.
But the trouble that I see is once somebody gets across the border and puts their feet on U.S. soil, now they're U now they're U.S. immigrants.
They're and they they get to be heard on whether they're claiming asylum and all that stuff and the federal government has that responsibility.
I think that a state has the obligation and the right to say you are not crossing into our state we'll use non lethal means but you are not going to step foot on our soil.
What do you think?
Yeah Yeah so thanks Tom look Lou, you're absolutely right.
Tom and again I think we're tracked on this I think it's let's be clear and and and I've said this I'm going to continue to say this Governor Albert has done more than any other governor in this country to fill the void left by this administration's abdication of the constitutional responsibility that you just described to protect the state from threats from outside our borders.
This administration has failed the constitutional duty.
Now in the Constitution you just described there is a self there's a state self-help remedy when the the federal government fails to protect the state and that's what Governor Abbott has done.
He's availed himself and look it's not just an invasion of the millions of actual illegal aliens.
This is being driven by the cartels so it's just a declaration of war against the cartels and it's not just an invasion of people it's an invasion of criminals as Tom said it's an invasion of drugs.
It's an invasion of potential national security threats that's what the governor has done.
The one thing that that he hasn't done that you described look USB Area Arizona is very clear as you stated states cannot enforce federal immigration law.
But when the governor declares an invasion under the constitutional self-help remedy he's not enforcing a federal immigration law.
He's actually taking the steps necessary to protect his state or her state from an invasion.
And that means what he needs to do the one thing he hasn't done yet is to remove it and as you said prevent them from illegally entering you're going to see the numbers go down.
Now look there there's a very real issue about potential personal liability attention attaching to the to the guardsmen or the troopers that do this.
I know they're working through that right now but until the governor does as you said prevent them from uh entering and removing this crisis is going to continue.
Yeah.
Tom I agree with Mark Hunter and Mark's actually worked a lot with uh fair in this issue and I know Mark's met with uh Texas AG and and a few others and uh Kerry Lake was going to do it.
Matter of fact when I met with Carrie Lake before the election I gave her my commitment that me and Mark would both go out there and and run the and run it for her we you know with his experience and my experience we'll work with your DPS we're working National Guard and we'll help you enforce laws on your southern border.
Fortunately you know she's not declared the winner so uh and you know Katie Hobbs and ever do it.
But look you know bottom line is this now that we got the House I'm the Republicans in the House they need to have oversight hearings.
They need to impeach my or not backing off that they need to peach my orchestra on day one and a minimum need to have oversight hearings because no Louis if they subpoena the right people if they subpoena the right information and me and Mark stand ready we'll be witness one and two.
We'll show them and tell them where to get the information they're looking for because we've been around a while.
If they subpoena the right people subpoena right information there's going to be a lot of damning information about Secretary Major and these NGOs that are conspiring with them and you got what 24 Democrats running for reelection in 2024.
Once they hear the evidence that they cannot deny they got to pick a side because they're up for a tough reelection.
So I'm hoping when they're presented with the evidence they can't ignore then they'll be on our side on securing that border or they're going to risk reelection.
Well I keep thinking that but uh the evidence is overwhelming and yet they are still sticking their head somewhere where they don't see what's going on.
By the way I've wondered uh by the way Joe Biden is acted as president do we have any clues about where the hair he got transplanted on top of his head may have come from well it's just a thought.
But anyway you guys uh one quick question to uh it it's clear that when you release these people uh that are illegally immigrating and say come back in four years they don't come back and what I have thought we should do,
and you guys would know firsthand, if we put immigration judges on the border, whether it's intense or whatever we got to do and say you're not leaving this area until you have your hearing, and let's get those people, their immediate hearing at Supreme Court says they get, and 90 something percent of them will be immediately taken across the border after their hearing, right?
Yep.
Louis, look, we were already doing that.
We were doing that under the Trump administration.
That was the genesis of the Romain in Mexico program.
Gotcha.
Pushed all those resources down.
We brought judge in via video teleconference.
We did it all electronically and virtually, and it was extremely effective.
But here's the most important thing.
Once we have that system, and we were not releasing them in the United States, this is a good thing.
They quit coming.
They that's exactly exactly.
Exactly.
We reduced illegal trace of by 85%.
Well, you guys are American heroes.
Thank you.
The reason it makes sense, Louie, if I could real quick, sure.
Uh, Syracuse University Track just did a study.
They looked at the rocket doctor.
All these family units come back came across this, Joe Biden become president.
Those are have been adjudicated.
93% loss your case were ordered removed.
Only seven percent.
And let me how many of those order removed that ninety ninety-three percent have left the country.
How many have ice rested?
Zero.
Zero.
Well.
Well, guys, thank you for coming on.
Thank you for shedding light.
Thanks for being American heroes.
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And let's go to Preston in Alabama.
What's on your mind, Preston?
We got about a minute or so.
Yeah.
I got just just real frustrated old jar head.
I'm just gonna ask the question what difference does it make anyway?
Bill got in trouble, was impeached, nothing ever happened.
Hillary killed a bunch of uh military men, got in trouble, nothing ever happened.
The FBI DOJ lied up and down backwards about Trump, nothing ever happened.
We know Hunter and and old Joe have been involved in as many crooked things as you could possibly imagine.
Nothing ever happened.
What do we why are we doing the dog and pony show when we know nothing's gonna happen?
Well, that's just it.
If we don't start making things happen for the injustices being created by the other side, then this country is done.
We and and I'm not giving up hope, Preston.
Uh we have got to do that, and uh that's gonna start it.
We actually need to bring in some judges to have them testify, subpoena to the judiciary committee in the House, because it's controlled by Republicans beginning January third, and uh let's start asking those those kind of questions.
Why are they acting unconstitutionally?
Why do they believe in punishing in pretrial confinement, even though that's unconstitutional?
Why have these people gotten away with things?
We need to bring in lots of people to have them testify, show accountability.
We can't give up hope, Preston.
We just can't.
We gotta keep pushing.
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This is Louis Gomert sitting in for Sean.
And I've got a guest with us, Alex Barrenson.
I hope he doesn't mind my mentioning.
He was formerly with the New York Times back when there were some reporters at the Times that were really trying to dig out for the truth.
And I would like to welcome Alex Barenson to the Sean Handy show.
Alex, welcome, man.
Thank you for all the work you have done.
You've not only done incredible homework, but you have also gone to the courts to uh get to the truth of the matters.
And and particularly with regard to Twitter.
And and if I say this right off, uh to me one of uh as a historian, one of the greatest developments in the history of medicine uh was this idea of informed consent that uh apparently it was only about a hundred years ago that you had a better chance of getting well after seeing a doctor getting instead of getting worse.
And so you look how far we've gone, and this idea that in America you should have informed consent where a physician, healthcare provider will advise you of the risks inherent to whatever the shot, the procedure, whatever, and then get your agreement.
Uh, but that seems to have taken a back seat to the hysteria, as you've called it in in your book pandemia, how coronavirus hysteria took over our government rights and lives.
Uh amazing work you've done, Alex, and and I'm grateful for it.
Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
Well, Congressman, thank you so much for having me.
No, uh well, tell us uh you've gotten discovery through the courts uh in your suit against Twitter.
Uh what is that reveal?
Let folks know.
So yeah, so um uh uh I sued Twitter last year um after Twitter banned me in August 2021 for a tweet that uh about the MRNA vaccines that began it doesn't stop infection or transmission, which I think which I think everyone in the world uh even Anthony Vauci would agree with at this point.
Well, I don't think you could count on Fauci agreeing with anything you know.
That's true.
He probably didn't agree with the sky is blue, but um but especially if Rand Paul asked him, but otherwise.
But uh, but yeah, thank you.
Uh and and you know uh President Biden had said it will stop the transmission, it will stop you from getting it.
Most people understand, well, no, that's not actually happening.
And you just happen to reveal that inconvenient truth a little too soon for some people.
Yes.
So I mean, so so we were in the middle of this argument over whether we needed boosters and whether we needed mandates, and I was pretty forcefully speaking out against both boosters and mandates.
And and by the way, uh you know, I I I said last year in 2021, hey, you know, if you're a high risk for COVID, uh probably getting vaccinated makes sense.
I don't think it makes sense if you're a lower risk, but if you're at high risk, if you know, it it probably makes sense for you based on the data that we have.
And so, and so I would I was not one of these people who's saying, oh, the vaccine is gonna turn your blood green and make you know jump off a building.
I tried to take a measure expense.
But when the vaccines began to fail last summer in the summer of 2021, as they clearly were, and when there was this rush to try to get people to take a third shot, which had not been tested really in any meaningful way, I spoke out against that.
And and and I definitely said, you know what, it is wrong to tell people that they need to do this at the risk of their jobs, at the risk of their education, that you have to choose, you know.
If you live in New York State where I did what I didn't do, you you have to choose between going into a restaurant and being vaccinated against your will.
All Those things uh you know, I thought were very wrong.
And so for my um, you know, for speaking out, I was censored, I was banned from Twitter, I sued Twitter, and in the discovery, which now has been uh corroborated by what people call the Twitter files, which is what Elon Musk has released since Bine Twitter, right?
It is it is clear that the Biden administration wanted me off Twitter and pressured Twitter very hard last year in 2021 to push me off.
And that to me is a violation of my first amendment rights.
I do intend to sue.
I've now settled my suit with Twitter and I am back on the platform.
That was before Elon took over.
They had to let me back on because they didn't want to go through discovery and and it you know, and sort of admit what was really going on.
But so they they did let me back on, but now I'm gonna sue the White House and I'm gonna sue a guy named Andy Slavitt, who um who was at the White House when this effort to censor me started, and I and I'm gonna sue Pfizer too.
And the reason I'm gonna sue Pfizer is that a board member at Pfizer named Scott Gottlieb, who is who used to be the head of the FDA, you know, you sort of talk about the swamp and capture this guy went from the FDA, he quit three months later he joined literally three months later he joined the board of Pfizer.
And in August 2021, when Twitter had not yet banned me, although they were under a lot of pressure from the White House to do so, and clearly feeling that pressure, um, he went to Twitter and said, You gotta basically I mean we don't I don't know exactly what he said yet, but he said that my writing was a security risk to Tony Fauci.
And Twitter basically banned me immediately.
So all those people, as far as I'm concerned, violated my First Amendment rights, and I'm gonna sue them all.
And I have something called the Subsect, which is a which is an independent newsletter platform that's very anti-censorship.
I've been able to write there, but really being off Twitter for a year at this crucial moment when the vaccines were you know being pushed for a third shot and the mandates were being pushed to me, that's time I'll never get back.
And it was an intentional suppression of my right to free speech.
Yeah, right.
And in fact, thank you for mentioning Substack.
Uh you have the the unreported truths blog on Substack uh in addition to being the author of the pandemia.
But uh well, you know, you had the worst of all worlds.
You had uh the government, you had social media, and you had big pharma in the form all coming after you.
So you could have been paranoid, but all of those groups really were out to get you.
Right.
And and so I I love the fact that you've stood up on this stuff.
And and coming back again, uh look, to me, people should have the chance to get the vaccination, but just tell people what the risks are and let them make that decision.
Here's what the risks are, here's what potential benefits are, and let's be truthful about those and let people make their own decisions.
And and that's where the title of your book points out, you know, the the hysteria allowed the government to combine with uh social media and uh uh the corporate world to to silence people.
So and and there was a very real, I mean, remember 2020, the the hysteria that the media was whipping up, you know, in part to get you know Donald Trump out of office because it was real.
And so then they needed an answer.
And they said, hey, these vaccines are the answer.
And you know, the the worst part was that I mean the the the most ironic part was that for a few months in early 2021, it seemed like the vaccines really were the answer.
We had this brief moment when cases went way down when deaths went way down.
And unfortunately, it turned out that like a lot of pharmaceutical products, these these vaccines, and we really shouldn't even call them vaccines because they they don't confer anything like permanent immunity.
These shots only worked for a short period of time, and no one was willing to admit, you know what, like they're just not what they appeared to be in the clinical trials.
And and that became I think we're still dealing with that.
I think I think the inability to reckon with the disappointment of the vaccines has pushed us to a really bad place.
Well, in your situation also points out once again, there is a problem with people that have worked officially in the government going to like the Pfizer big pharma board.
Uh and or and vice versa.
Uh There is a conflict of interests there that is really a threat to people's constitutional rights.
And your situation illustrates that about as clearly as as I've ever seen.
And in fact not you wasn't it 2021, I think even National Review, you know, that used to be so solidly conservative, they were coming after you because they said, look, here we've got this vaccination that may allow us to get rid of lockdowns and all these other freedom taking things.
And here's this guy Baronson that's out there saying these are bad.
Yep.
That's right.
And to me and I say this in pandemia the answer wasn't to you know force vaccines.
The answer was just to go back to normal to begin with because this virus was never you know it was never Ebola.
It was never HIV.
It was always in the you know maybe it was worse than the flu I think we can agree in 2020 it looked worse than the flu.
In September 2021, early September 2021, the ACLU, the American Civil Liberties Union, published an op-ed in the New York Times saying we favor vaccine management.
I mean this is an organization that has civil liberties in the title.
Yeah.
This is how most we got exactly the right and the left they both got lost.
Well and they continue to lose their way uh and it's become one sided.
They at one time they were out for civil liberties number one period exclamation boy.
But now uh that it all depends on which side the politics are and what I've appreciated about you you're not as concerned about politics as you are just freedom liberty.
Yep that's right and by the way you know I know you and I don't agree on everything and I I sometimes write things on my subsect that makes my readers very angry especially if I write about Trump.
I don't agree with my readers about Trump.
And you know what?
That's fine.
That's America we should be all allowed to express our views and this I said something that should get me banned from Twitter is in it's just wrong.
Oh, it is.
And my communications people have been saying for a long time that, you know, I got shadow banned.
I have not been listed as one that was, but they said, you know, my Twitter just went to nothing.
And that had to have been what happened.
But anyway, you have taken a stand for liberty.
Look, you know, Jonathan Turley, I think the world of him, Alan Dershowitz, and we disagree on most things political.
But I love their concern for liberty, for freedom.
And, you know, heck, I was deacon of a Baptist church back in Texas.
and some people would say look we all gotta be of the same opinion and I would quote a preacher from 1950 before I was even born he said if two people agree on everything one of them unnecessary same about Congress same same about any group if everybody's in agreement we don't need to have these meetings but the reason we have the meetings is nobody has a hundred percent lock on complete truth so we need to discuss these things.
We need to hear the different opinions and not try to completely silence one group so I I'm grateful for your work.
What what would you like for listeners to remember and and what to check out on your that you have done.
Sure so well I mean I'm back on Twitter so you can follow me at Alex Barrenson and I have this Substack which again it's a newsletter I write a few times a week and you can join for free.
Most people do join for free um there's also an option to pay but frankly I'm happier to have you as a reader whether you pay or not and uh and so that's Alex Barrenson dot substack.com it's called unreported truth as you said and then the book is pandemia which came out last year and you know it's funny I've gotten some emails from people in the last just few days who said you know what I didn't leave this when it came out um it was all sort of too fresh but now I'm leading it and it and it really and
it really like puts my life of the last twelve of 2020 and 2021 in context.
It helps remind me how Crazy things got and that I wasn't wrong to stand up to that.
So I'm really glad to hear from those people.
So the book is called Pandemia.
But but really, really just I I just don't stop thinking.
We all have to, we all be critical.
We all have to be critical thinkers about this.
Yes.
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Jim, we got about a minute.
Let us know what you think.
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
Um joining your show.
And I have an observation in a goal like this.
Thanks to our elite universities, uh evidence-based science has been turned upside down and replaced with political science.
And that is not trivial because it reaches every corner of our society.
And uh every aspect of science and political science is the polar opposite of real science.
Political science seeks to dis dissuade, persuade, deceive, and dupe uh in in opposition to all available evidence.
Well, especially when we get away from having uh people well informed on what the issues are instead of being deceived.
Uh yeah, great observation, Jim.
Uh obviously you're from the show me state, and thankfully you demand to be shown the facts.
Uh more people need to do that.
We need more people, less reliant on the government, do your own homework, and then hold your government accountable.
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