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All right, Leonard Skinner, Simple Man, that only means one thing on this radio show.
And that's all things simple man, self-proclaimed Bill O'Reilly, all things O'Reilly at Bill O'Reilly.com.
Sir, how are you?
You know, congratulations, Hannity.
That Barrett outfit uh lists the most popular radio shows in the nation every year.
You're number one.
Did you know that?
Uh you know, I don't like to talk about myself like that.
Is that weird?
Well, I'll do it then.
So you're number one.
But I just don't I don't I I feel uncomfortable doing it.
I never have never done it my in in my entire career.
Um it's an I believe me, it's an honor.
I'm grateful.
I'm grateful to this audience.
I know you're grateful when your books become number one, which is kind of like you release a book, it's number one, it's not that complicated anymore.
Um but it I'm very honored, I'm humbled by it, and it's not false humility.
Um but I I don't know why.
I just I feel like it's braggadocious if you go out there and word of the day, Bill.
Um I don't want to I I'm not sure my audience really cares about that stuff.
Well, that's okay.
I'm gonna make them care, Hannity.
Right now.
So you're number one, um, the radio hierarchy in the nation, but I'm number eighteen for the O'Reilly State, the fifteen-minute broadcast, the Paul Harvey thing.
I'm number eighteen.
That's pretty good, I think.
You don't remember this, because for a few years you did do longer form radio, and you talked to me about it, or I talked to you about it, whatever it was, and I said, I'm telling you, there's a void in the marketplace after the passing of Paul Harvey, and I think you'd be perfect for it.
Um you just blew me off.
Throw me you threw me out of your office, you threw books at me, and then you know, you didn't listen to me.
No, I listened to you, but it was at that point, you know, we were doing other things.
But anyway, so you and I have a uh very uh prosperous holiday season going on.
Um Killing the Legends, by the way, the book that's out now.
It's the number five on the Barnes and Noble list.
And remember it came out September 27th.
But that your books sell forever and ever and ever.
I mean, they really go on for a long period of time, and it's a great Christmas gift.
I read the whole thing cover to cover now.
I'm finished with the book.
Uh maybe I should sell it, you know, for a buck and make a more couple of bucks and make some money.
Uh I want to ask you a whole different question today, if that's okay with you.
Yep.
What is Christmas like in simple man Bill O'Reilly's household?
What do you do?
What do you do?
What are your customs?
What are your traditions?
Um, like, for example, in my family, we we've gone to the Secret Santa route, and and we put a limit on how much people spend.
We don't want to make it all about gift giving and all about you know, obviously the kids get taken care of.
Um, and I have nieces and nephews, etc.
But whoever I get, there's no limit on how much I can spend.
But I'm the only exception to that rule.
Well, I'm looking forward to my gift, honey.
Um you have to be a family member, Bill.
You're a radio family.
But we I I do a very traditional, uh as you would imagine.
I mean, I have a nice 100-year home and I put New England type candles, white candles and all the windows, and we have a tree, and then you know, the gift giving everybody knows that it's not paramount.
Um, and so uh you know, I obviously give nice gifts to everybody, including.
See, but I would imagine like you give your kids they're older now.
I would imagine you do what I do, which is giving them practical gifts.
Yeah, I give them money because they're in college and when uh my daughter's in law school, but I also try to go uh give them something special.
I gave my daughter tickets to the Billy Joel concert for her and her six dopey friends.
I mean, that is a pretty darn good, yeah.
Bill, if your daughter's listening to this, you call you calling her friends six dopey friends, you know, what seven uh five golden rings?
I mean, what what are we gonna call this song?
That's the twelve days of Christmas, and by the way, there are twelve killing six dopey friends, one Billy Joel concert and five golden rings.
Everybody I said, Look, is it 12 days of Christmas?
You don't want swans in the house, okay?
That's not gonna lead to anything good.
And lords are leaping on the front lawn, that might send a bad message.
So you got twelve killing books, twelve days of Christmas, you can do the math.
But anyway, back to the O'Reilly, which is what your question was traditional Christmas.
We go to Mass, okay, and then uh we I treat everybody to dinner on Christmas Eve, we have the home cooked meal on Christmas Day.
Uh open the presents on Christmas Day, not Christmas Eve.
That's the O'Reilly tradition.
Now, do you cater the dinner or do you cook the dinner?
Because I usually cook.
My sister's my sister cooks.
And she's a very good cook, by the way.
Um, and then we uh we eat dinner in the uh dining room, which is um furnished with my grandmother's furniture purchased in nineteen eighteen.
Wow.
Yeah.
So it's real traditional.
Well, people don't know I really shouldn't even be saying this 'cause I may end up getting you robbed, but Bill O'Reilly's house, and I've been there, is actually in many ways kind of like a mini museum.
Because you you've collect you you're a collector of historical items over the years, and I know the expensive ones you put in in a vault, you know, in a bank somewhere, but the but you have a lot of interesting things that you've collected over the years and it's it's kind of fun to walk around and look at it all.
You know, that's my hobby.
Um and it's a great investment too, because American historical documents are uh rising in value much faster than everything else, including art, because they're obviously so few of them.
And and I learned if every from whatever document or um artifact I buy, I research it and learn.
So it's a great hobby, and um yeah, we got all that and we have uh basically I like Christmas to be relaxed with the capital R. Relax, everybody relax.
No political discussions, none of that.
You're not throwing turkey legs at each other, nothing like that.
You know, come on.
I you know, by the way, that would make Thanksgiving really uh that would make Christmas really fun if you started having one big Bill O'Reilly family war and fight.
Most of we're similar in a lot of ways.
Like you mentioned your daughter liked the Bill of Joe concert.
Yeah.
Now my son loves to go to football games, and I've often gotten him Super Bowl tickets, and you know, I'll I'll set up like a whole package for him.
And my daughter also now has gotten interested in it.
And so that's one gift that I like to give my kids.
I used to like to go, but I don't enjoy going to the Super Bowl anymore.
You know, it's it's if when you're famous and that's you know, it sucks.
Oh, you know, you know, then I got the one and one drunk liberal jackass that I have to deal with in front of my kids and I don't feel like doing dealing with it because unfortunately for them, if I have to really deal with it, it's gonna get ugly fast.
Right.
So that's the downside of celebrity.
If you go to the Super Bowl and you're actually sitting in the stands, and you know, I know you're the same as I am.
I was in the deli this morning's picking up a sandwich.
I posed for Fort Pictures just at the Delhi counter.
And I I like it.
You know, it I'm not a fan and everybody's so nice.
I mean, They're really very, very nice.
But you know what?
Aren't they like our customers?
And for example, whatever business you're in, you're in the service business, and if people give you the microphone or give you the camera every day, and they want a picture and they're a fan, to me, it's the it's the least that we can do in terms of giving back.
Now there might be inconvenient moments.
However, uh that that has never bothered me, and and I don't think it bothers you either.
No.
And uh 90% of the people that I encounter in New York.
Yeah.
Are very, very nice.
And you know, Long Island is our home turf.
And so it's ninety-nine percent on Long Island.
You gotta stay out of East Hampton.
That's the thing.
I don't think I've been there since my kids played a tennis tournament years ago.
I walk in the street there and well, we've gone to lunch together and breakfast together, and people are always nice to us.
Yeah, and you pick up the tab most of the time, Adam and tell everybody.
I do.
Yeah.
I usually do, but I don't but uh I do that as a matter of course.
I'm just interested and now, beyond going to mass, do you have any other religious uh tradition in your family?
Um there is a movie called Killing Jesus.
Okay, based upon my book.
That was based on on your best selling book.
Right.
Chelsea Grammar and you know, it's really excellent.
Really excellent.
But my urchins have watched it so many times that it's hard.
Do they know you call them urchins?
Did they know you say that their friends are dopey on air?
Listen, that's the least of it.
Um man.
You know, uh I would say this though.
I've I've used the same thing term in terms of my my kids' friends.
All right, I don't want to hear about what your dopey friends' parents are letting them do.
That doesn't that's meaningless to me.
That's a meaningless argument.
Come up with something better.
That's right.
Um because kids can be bad influences on each other, and you know, we're both fortunate in that we we have good kids that they don't get in trouble, and their friends tend to be really nice, actually, in the end, and you know, I just terrified of me.
I mean, you know, if you really got an idiot friend, they're not gonna want to come and and be in my presence.
Um but I tell you what, this generation, uh, ages sixteen to thirty, I would say.
This is the toughest generation in American history because of the internet and all of the things that they're exposed to and the culture clash and the academia when they go to college and uh all of the stuff that they have to, you know, it is a burden.
When I was at college, it's like Animal House, you know, my roommate with John Belushi.
Um we had a million laughs, we would just laugh.
But the funny thing is I'll tell a funny story.
That we were at a dinner once.
I'm not gonna say everybody that was there, but you were there, I was there, Geraldo was there, the great one Mark Levin was there, and Donald Trump was there.
Yeah.
And Geraldo and I drank wine at dinner.
Um, and then I looked at you three, and then there was one other person at the dinner.
I'm not sure if that person would want me to mention them, so I won't.
And I said, you know, with all due respect, of all the people that I know, and I know all four of you don't drink at all, I said, you're the four people of my life that I think need to drink the most.
That's true.
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So next year, Republicans take over the House, and they have two big powers that they can use.
One is the power of the purse.
The other, the second big power is the power of subpoena.
We know where they're headed with subpoenas.
There will be investigations into President Joe Biden and his son Hunter and their foreign business dealings.
There'll be investigations into whether the FBI's politicized, the DOJ is weaponized, uh, the horrific withdrawal from Afghanistan will be investigated, the origins of COVID 19 and Dr. Fauci will be investigated.
And then the rest of the the plan for Republicans, as I understand it, is to implement what they call their commitments to America.
Will that work?
It'll work to the sense that they have the goods.
So if the committees, if if the oversight and judiciary committees, which are gonna take on the Bidens and the FBI Twitter, which a big story, if they have stuff that they can prove, then it's huge.
It's a game changer, the country changes.
But if it's the January 6th committee, if it's just like let's get them no matter what, and we're talking about Biden now, Americans are gonna walk away from that.
They're gonna turn their man.
Let me ask this.
If Joe Biden lied to the country and had was deeply involved in Hunter's foreign business dealings where he made millions without experience, and we can show a money trail that proves that he benefited financially.
Is that going to be a big scandal?
Well, it's a felony.
Because he put out his tax returns, and there's no mention of that on his tax returns.
So that's a fairly easy one.
If they can trace actual cash going from Hunter Biden or services, by the way.
That's what they got the Trump organization in trouble in New York City.
The services aspect of it.
So if they can show that as vice president Joe Biden accepted cash or services from his son, um Biden's through, he'd have to resign the Democratic Party collapses.
That's how big a story this is.
Well, Bill O'Reilly, I want to wish you and your family a great holiday, merry Christmas.
Uh, have a great time.
I hope you relax like you planned.
And uh we'll see you uh after the new year, and it's gonna be a hell of a year next year.
I'm looking forward to it.
Yeah, and uh I really appreciate you having me on your program since it's number one.
If we're number four, I probably wouldn't do it.
But uh now that Annie's number one, I'm on every week, and it's uh it's a lot of fun.
Who's number four on the list?
I just wondering.
Who do you know?
I think Beck.
I think I thought you're friends with Glenn Beck.
I am friends with him.
I do his show too.
Um I got a big thing.
You just contradicted yourself.
You sound like a liberal.
No, I do it.
I do out of uh pity for Beck.
Oh, good grief.
Get out of here.
Have a great holiday.
Merry Christmas to you, the urchins and their dopey friends, all right.
Have fun.
Bye.
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Um, Corinne Jean Pierre would not say if Biden is going to call on Democrats that took all this money from this, you know, this idiot, Sam uh bankman freed, uh, you know, involved in this crypto scandal, and whether or not Democrats that took the campaign cash should return it.
Here's here's what she said.
Well, the president returned that donation doesn't call on all politicians who got uh campaign donations that may have come from customer money that's returned that some.
So look, I'm Covered here by the Hatch Act, uh limited on what I can say, and anything that's connected to political contributions uh from here, I I I would have to refer you to the DNC.
I'll refer you to the DNC.
I can't possibly, you know, say from the podium whether or not the people that got uh the benefit of money that was ripped off of innocent people, uh, whether they have an obligation to return it, which I think they do.
Uh and then she went into this issue, you know, yesterday was Drag Queen Day at the White House, and anyway, talked about extreme conservatives.
I guess they're mega maga conservatives bent on taking away fundamental rights from LGBTQ I plus.
What is the I, Linda?
I don't know what the I what's the I part?
I wouldn't even attempt to guess.
Not a clue.
What's the plus part?
Do you know what the plus part is?
Nope.
It changes so often.
Every other day there's another one.
I can't keep up with any of the acronyms on the other.
I think I can get LGBTQ.
I think I can get that one down.
But anyway, here's what she said.
We understand, in spite of uh this important legislation, it is also true that there are extremist uh conservatives uh who appear bent on uh taking away fundamental rights, including marriage equality.
Uh this bill provides an important measure uh of security and state stability for LGBTQI plus families, but their children should should uh uh should who should see or should also we'll also get the the attacked, right?
As we know, um sadly, and their uh legal attacks on marriage equality will continue to persist.
That's just a lie.
Almost every conservative I know it they they want they're libertarian in the sense that uh what can what consenting adults do is none of their business.
Nobody's wants to get into other people's private lives, and I don't think they should get into their private lives.
However, when you want to indoctrinate a kid in school into a way of thinking that counters or is or contradicts the values that parents are trying to instill at home, and there's no age appropriateness associated with a lot of these topics.
Parents rightly want to speak out about it, and whenever they do, apparently they're being monitored as potential domestic terrorists, according to the Biden Department of Justice.
It's insane.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Uh let's say hi.
Jay is in Arizona.
Jay, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, it's an absolute pleasure.
I appreciate it so much.
And I know you hear it a million times all the time, but thank you so much, my friend, for what you're doing.
Hey, thank you for letting me do it, and I'm glad you checked in today.
Hope you have a great holiday, a great Christmas.
What's going on?
Uh well, you know, I I just wanted to bring Hunter Biden up on uh as a thought.
I keep thinking, you know, at first Hunter Biden was, you know, you could where's Hunter?
We couldn't find Hunter.
Yeah, I remember.
Now they're parading him around like he's you know, the family pet, and they're every every function at the White House is there.
So I'm asking what what's changed from hiding to being put out front?
I'm wondering, is there something that's possibly non-pardonable?
Or they just finally realize that it doesn't matter at the end.
Joe's just gonna be able to departen his son and he's all gonna get away with everything anyway, so why as well just parade him?
Is that what's going on?
I I have no idea.
Look, the the president would have the the right to pardon is absolute.
And if the president decided to give a pardon to Hunter, he would be able to do it, in my opinion.
I know some scholars this came up during the Trump year.
Some scholars said, eh, maybe not so quick, but uh, I think it's a very clear cut that the right to pardon is absolute and Biden can do whatever he wants.
The problem is the investigation, if you listen to James Comer, is going to be against Joe.
You know, we we already have the low-hanging fruit, which is Hunter Biden, zero experience, being paid millions of dollars, getting deals that he seemingly had no experience for, or admittedly had no experience for.
Now the question is, did Joe Biden lie to the country when he said that he never spoke to his son, not a single time about his foreign business dealings.
I think we already know the answer to that.
Uh we've got photographic evidence of Joe and Hunter and foreign business partners.
Uh we also have the laptop from hell and and the implication of Hunter of his own father.
Um, As far as what the Republicans ought to be doing, they need to focus on the positive agenda they ran on.
They need to keep those promises, even if they don't become law.
They need to vote on every item they said they would vote on.
And then people can compare and contrast the differing political philosophies and governing philosophies, and simultaneously get to the bottom of really serious issues.
One of them has to do with the Bidens.
Another has to do with whether our FBI is politicized or DOJ is weaponized.
Another would have to do with this disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Another would do with the would have to do with the origins of COVID 19, Dr. Fauci, and whether or not we paid for COVID 19 or taxpayer dollars contributed to COVID 19.
So that that's all part of their responsibility, and with the power of the purse and the power to subpoena, the Republicans have an opportunity to get to the bottom of a lot of issues that we really need to get to the bottom of.
Can Joe pardon himself?
You know, it's an interesting question.
I believe he can.
And this came up during the Trump years.
there was speculation at the end of the trump presidency that he might do such i believe that he can um i believe that power is that absolute um Others, constitutionalists might disagree with disagree in some regards.
don't see how you know tell me where the president is forbidden for doing such because that that power lies with him if he uses that power and it benefits him tell me why that would then render it a power that he can't use make sense but that's why i to me i think that's why they're doing it they're putting Because they know in the end, worst case scenario.
Worst case scenario is they still win.
You know, what what somebody threw out a hypothesis to me yesterday saying that Democrats desperately want some type of conviction of Donald Trump because they're expecting one with Hunter, maybe with Joe, and that there would be a quid pro quo there.
Could that possibly be a scenario?
I have no idea.
It would be total speculation on my part.
Anyway, my friend, have a great holiday.
Appreciate you checking in.
Teresa, North Carolina, how are you?
Glad you called Teresa.
What's going on?
Hi, Sean.
Thank you for allowing me to call in.
You are an ultra MAGA patriot.
So I'm a mega mega troublemaker, I guess.
Go ahead.
I'll get to my question.
There's Title 42 and the current invasion occurring at our border now.
And when they take away 42, it will be like an overtaking of the country.
Why can't Senate or the House Republicans get and their representatives with the state governors forming an alliance to fight against this?
Listen, in fairness to border state governors and other governors, I think they have done their their level best.
I mean, look at Governor Ducey out in Arizona.
Um, I mean, he's welded cargo containers as barriers from people to uh from to prevent people from entering Arizona.
Uh we know that Governor Abbott now has empowered his own state guard to be at the border and send people back and turn them away.
Um all of this, of course, being challenged by the Biden administration.
Then you have idiots like Mayorchis, the Department of Homeland Security Secretary, saying, no, the border's secure.
It's anything but secure.
But there's no definition any intelligent person could use that would convince anyone that that border is secure.
It just doesn't exist.
So with Title 42, which by the way, it's seven days away until the end of Title 42, what that's going to result in.
Remember, it was invoked early in the pandemic by the Trump administration.
And anyway, uh federal judge blocking the federal government from continuing to use the emergency health Order.
Um, and we are now expecting the biggest largest surge at our border ever, because once people get in the country, they're never leaving, and we already know Chuck Schumer stated publicly after the election, not before the election, that he wants amnesty for every illegal immigrant in the country.
Get that.
This is total uh dereliction of duties for safety and security on this country by the Biden and regime and the entire staff.
It's dangerous.
I mean we're not checking the background of any of these people.
We know this year alone we had a hundred people we caught on the terrorist watch list.
We don't know how many gotta ways there might be that are would that are on that list also.
And there's there's no vetting of anybody crossing that border, and they're given false documents.
Um I m my greatest fear in this is that s at some point down the road, we're gonna find out out of the five million people in the last two years that Joe Biden's letting into the country and processing into the country with no checks and and preferential treatment.
You know, unfortunately, I guarantee you, people that want to bring harm to this country are getting through and probably setting up cells within the United States, and my fear is we're gonna wake up one morning and there's gonna be some terrorist activity that I can't predict.
I have a couple of ideas what I think will happen.
I I have sources that I've talked to in government, and I throw different scen scenarios uh at them, things that I would fear if I was in charge of of homeland security, and uh they usually look at me and say, Yeah, you're pretty spot on.
Would you agree maybe the uh power grid, the electrical grid?
Oh, I think the electrical grid.
You know, one thing I've worried about down here that that would should keep everybody up at night.
Well, what if God forbid, you know, they get a hold of these, you know, surface to air missiles and want to take commercial airlines out of the sky.
And what if they did it simultaneously in many cities at once?
That would scare the hell out of me.
You know, or another type of nine eleven, whatever whatever manifestation that took on.
The list is way too long of things that they can potentially do, and God forbid, you know, we have an attack like that on our country.
But then they're they're creating a vulnerability that need not exist.
Anyway, Teresa, have a great Christmas.
Appreciate you being with us.
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All right, let's get back to our busy phones.
Lewis is in Pennsylvania.
What's up, Lewis?
How are you?
Yes, I want to uh thank you guys for being there for Linda and you, Sean.
You guys are awesome Patriots.
Thank you.
We appreciate it.
And I want to I want to say about the 81 executive orders that Biden has signed.
It's like, what does he think is going to happen when he's putting restrictions on all these oil companies?
And it's coming down on people like me and you and every all your listeners out there.
And I mean, I want to thank Mark Levin for giving me that information.
You know, and you guys for doing all the research that you guys do and give me information.
I appreciate it.
You know, and and I I just wanted to the bottom line is we have compromised national security.
We did it in two ways.
If we're energy independent and we would have held on to that, um, that means when we don't have to be reliant on countries that don't like us for the lifeblood of our economy.
That would have been number one.
Uh number two, I mean, we could be helping out our Western European allies, some of whom are going to be freezing this winter.
Number three, we have high-paying career jobs in the energy sector that we're farming out to countries that hate our guts.
Number four, it would have it would go a long way to lower gas prices and home heating prices.
Uh, that would save people money, and it would have a big impact on the high rate of inflation still at a 40-year high.
And we're not doing any of these things.
So, you know, my my only my plea, I I would get on my hands and knees and beg Biden to get smart.
It's good for every single aspect of our economy.
It's good for national security, it's good for job creation, it's good for reducing inflation.
It saves the American consumers money.
Every item we buy would be cheaper because the price of diesel would be cheaper.
I mean, it just makes sense to be the master of your own destiny and not be dependent on people that don't like you.
But try and convince Democrats of that.
Good luck.
because they're not particularly open-minded.
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