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Roger Stone - September 5th, Hour 3
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If you want to be a part of the program, one of the things that we better start paying very close attention to is the tactics that are used to intimidate not just individuals, but really an entire political movement.
You know, if you look at, for example, the treatment of Paul Manafort, for example, Paul Manafort was being charged with tax violations and a Farah violation for crying out loud.
We consider those things often to be process crimes.
Pre-dawn raid, guns drawn, no knock, boom in your house early in the morning, guns in your face, guns in your wife's face.
That's what they did to Paul Manafort.
It's a means of intimidating.
Then, of course, they put him in solitary confinement for long periods of time, a time hoping that he would break and tell them what they wanted to hear.
And then he would be offered something of great value, something called freedom in exchange for that.
He chronicles it in his new book.
If you have not gotten this book, it's out next week.
You can get a first edition copy at amazon.com, Hannity.com.
He tells his story.
And then there was the raid with Roger Stone, who's going to join us here in a second.
And Roger Stone, what was he found guilty of?
Obstruction of justice, false statements, witness tampering, and they wanted him to spend the rest of his life in jail and die in jail.
But it's the same scenario.
You got all these guys, 30 guys plus, with guns drawn, pre-dawn raid, frogman in the back of his house.
I guess he has water in the back of his house.
And lo and behold, 5:30, 6 in the morning, whatever time it was, they just happened to have CNN cameras there to capture all of it on videotape.
Here's some of the audio from that.
Exclusive footage you're looking at right now from CNN as the FBI arrives at Roger Stone's residence in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, taking him into custody.
We understand he will be arraigned in Fort Lauderdale later this morning, indicted on seven counts, one count of obstruction, five counts of making false statements, one count of witness tampering.
Again, they arrived before dawn there, before 6 a.m. or just after 6 a.m.
A dozen officers were told the FBI agent shouted FBI warrant.
And you can see it all play out right here.
This is just remarkable.
It's just remarkable to watch, you know, what they call the door.
Okay, that's it.
FBI open the door.
And now they're about to say another warning.
FBI warrant.
This is called, you know, the grab shot in the vernacular.
And it is remarkable to watch this all unfold.
You can see Roger Stone right there a little bit behind that door.
And yes, you know, standard operating procedure for the FBI to show up heavily armed here.
Like this.
But they didn't do this for other people connected in the investigation.
So it is remarkable that they did this without warning, without any indication to Stone's lawyers beforehand that this would happen.
We don't know also if they executed a search warrant on that.
CNN cameras were tipped off to this pre-dawn raid with guns drawn, frogmen in the backyard, and we're talking about process crimes.
Now, why did that happen?
Who tipped off CNN?
They just happened to be by Roger Stone's house at 5.45 in the morning one morning, just a coincidence that they got the tape?
Or were they tipped off because they wanted the video out there to intimidate other people?
Roger Stone lived through it, and but for the pardon of Donald Trump, I think he probably very likely would have died in jail, just like Paul Manafort would have died in jail.
I mentioned Paul's new book, Political Prisoner.
We had him on yesterday.
I mean, to hear his story should shock the conscience of this nation.
And this story of Roger Stone is the same thing.
He joins us now.
Roger, how are you?
Sean, great to be with you.
Look, I have no real knowledge about any of the charges that were brought against you.
That to me isn't even, that's not what this discussion is about.
If you want to address it, feel free.
The question is.
I really think I need to, Sean.
Let's be very clear.
You go right ahead.
I was charged with lying to Congress about Russian collusion that we now know didn't actually happen.
Almost two years after I was pardoned, the Justice Department at midnight on Election Day 2020 released the last remaining redacted sections of Robert Mueller's secret report in which he admitted that he found no evidence whatsoever against me regarding Russian collusion, collaboration with WikiLeaks, or any involvement in the phishing and publication of John Podesta's emails.
So the charges against me were fabricated to pressure me into testifying falsely against President Donald Trump.
They wanted me to be an article of impeachment.
And you're right.
At 6 o'clock in the morning, 29 heavily armed FBI agents in full SWAT gear, every one of them brandishing fully automatic M4 assault weapons, surround my home, storm my home to take me into custody.
The special counsel's office had actually talked to my lawyers the day before.
All they had to do was say, your client's being charged.
Tell him to turn himself in.
And I would have.
But here's the important thing people need to know.
I was arrested at 6.06.
At 6.11, a correspondent, Sarah Murray with CNN, contacts my lawyer by text to tell him I have been arrested.
He doesn't even know.
At 6.11, she sends him a copy of my sealed indictment, which was not unsealed by a federal magistrate until 10.30 that morning.
How does CNN have my indictment at 6-11?
I'll tell you how.
There are no court markings or timestamps on the indictment, but when you go to the metadata tags, you find the initials of the man who wrote it, Andrew Weissman.
The leaking of a search warrant, an arrest warrant before it's been served is a felony.
But the judge in my case could care less.
And of course, Mr. Weissman will never face any charges.
It's all about intimidation.
So I brought this up with Bill O'Reilly earlier in the program today, and I think you know me well enough to know that I'm a strong supporter of law enforcement.
My family, the two guys that made it to the FBI, my extended family were deity when I was growing up.
I had many relatives, distant relatives that were all members of the NYPD.
My mom was a prison guard.
My dad was a family court probation officer.
And so I have a deep, it's in my DNA, Roger, that I respect and love law enforcement.
And as somebody that has been so supportive and outspoken all these, what, 35 years on radio and 26 plus years on Fox News, supportive of law enforcement, after all these witch hunts, all these political persecutions, including your case and the treatment of your case for a process crime or Paul Manafort or in the case now of Donald Trump.
And based on the Russian hoax, and not one person was held accountable for lying to a FISA court.
Not one person was held accountable for the three years of outright lies they were telling the American people.
I believe, unfortunately, the upper echelon, especially of our Justice Department and our FBI, their reputation is in tatters, rightly so.
And I no longer can support these organizations until they bring real reform to these organizations, these institutions.
Roger, how could any American trust this?
No, the double, the two-tier justice system is extraordinary.
Hillary Clinton uses bleach to destroy a hard drive that includes classified documents.
She destroys multiple cell phones.
The FBI investigates her.
No charges are brought.
Hunter files.
By the way, Roger, where was the pre-dawn raid at her house?
Where's the pre-dawn raid at Hunter Biden's house?
We know there are crimes on that laptop.
Christopher Ray's had it for almost two years.
No, that's where I was about to go.
So he's taken in $10 million from Russia, from China, from U.S. companies.
I'm being harassed by the Department of Justice in a civil suit over our 2006 income taxes.
I'm up to date in all my taxes other than that one year.
Between penalties and interest, they now say I owe the IRS $2 million.
70% of that, Sean, is penalties and interest.
And they won't negotiate any break in that simply because I'm Roger Stone.
If I was just an average citizen, I could negotiate a payment plan.
They say Stone won't pay his taxes.
Sean, I paid $19,000 a month for seven years straight without ever missing a payment or being late on a payment until Robert Mueller bankrupted me.
Then they sue you because you can't pay after they destroy your ability to make a living.
I lost my car, my house, my savings, my insurance.
As you know, my wife was diagnosed with stage four cancer, and thanks to the healing power of Jesus Christ, she's in perfect health today.
She's cancer-free.
No, I feel blessed.
I feel blessed because Donald Trump had the courage and the strength in an election year to see that I was a victim of a political hit job.
I didn't break the law.
I made misstatements under oath to the Congress, but none of them were material.
None of them were relevant.
There was no underlying crime to hide.
There was no Russian collusion.
There was no WikiLeaks collaboration.
It was all about pressuring me to turn on Trump, which I refused to do.
Which, by the way, is the exact same story that Paul Manafort tells in his book.
I know your friends will Paul.
I got a copy of the book.
I couldn't put it down.
The book is terrific.
My own book will come out this Christmas.
It's called Roger Stone Did Nothing Wrong, My Political Persecution and the Loss of the 2020 Election.
It's a very similar tale to Paul Manafort.
It's a little different, but Paul's book is terrific.
And I was glad to see him on your show last night.
I thought he looked great.
Let's talk a little bit about what happened in Mar-a-Lago this week.
Your thoughts.
Absolutely outrageous.
The story in the New York Post by Andy McCarthy is completely incorrect.
I've spoken to someone who's actually seen the subpoena.
This does regard documents.
But if there's a dispute between the federal government and Donald Trump over the disposition and ownership of documents, then why wouldn't you bring that case in court?
File a case to get the documents back.
I understand the feeling of violation that Donald and Melania Trump feel right now.
They were in my house for 13 hours.
They destroyed the place.
They pulled out every drawer, dumped it on the floor.
They took out all my wife's clothes, threw them on the floor.
They took out every book in the bookshelves, threw it on the floor.
If there was a picture hanging on the wall, Sean, they punched out the frame to make sure you weren't hiding something inside the picture frame.
Picture of my mother, they destroyed.
I mean, it is, and I found nothing, by the way.
In the search of my home, in the search of my office, in the search of my apartment in New York that I had at the time, which, of course, I no longer have, they found no evidence whatsoever against me, but they made a shambles to those places.
They destroyed them, and then they just leave them as they were.
My wife was forced to sit in the corner for 13 hours, not allowed to touch her cell phone while they destroyed our home, simply because of the intimidation.
They could find no evidence against me.
Let me ask you this.
So I would assume over the years and you're in politics that you were probably a pretty well-off guy financially.
Is that a fair assumption?
You don't have to give details.
Well, I mean, I was today.
You know, I'm living month to month.
It's very hard when you're canceled.
You know, I once had a million followers on Twitter.
Today I'm banned.
I once had 3.5 million followers on Facebook.
Today I am banned.
I once had 112,000 followers on Instagram.
Today I'm banned.
So it's very hard to sell my books or for people to see my podcasts.
They make it very difficult.
We are slowly recovering.
But yeah, I was doing pretty good, and that's why I was able to pay down my tax debt on a regular basis.
But today, no, we struggle month to month.
There is not a month in which, because of the lawfare by the left, my wife and I still had 11 totally baseless, fraudulent, unsubstantiated civil suits against us filed by Democrats, liberals, crackpots, nut jobs.
Oh, wait a minute, I'm being redundant.
That's called lawfare.
They drag your name through the mud.
They make you pay huge legal fees.
Between our monthly legal fees, our very modest living expenses, and my wife's uninsured medical bills, there is not a month that goes by in which our bills are not greater than the amount of money that we make.
It's an unbelievable story.
Roger Stone, thanks for being with us.
We will have you on when your book comes out.
We look forward to it, and we really appreciate your time.
Thank you.
Sean, many, many thanks, and God bless you.
God bless you and your wife as well.
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Amazing that, you know, Christopher Wright won't answer.
It's such a sad state of affairs that Christopher Wray had every opportunity to restore this great institution, the FBI, to its once-held greatness.
But after, let's see, the dirty dossier lying to FISA court judges, holding nobody accountable, putting in place no reforms whatsoever, He's done nothing to clean up the bad actors within the FBI.
How can anyone trust them?
And by the way, no, the lawyers can only see a warrant from 10 feet away at Mar-a-Lago, and they can't watch us as we're collecting information.
And, oh, shut off your security cameras, which they didn't shut off.
And now the FBI desperately wants them.
Anyway, here's Ray answering that question.
Former President Trump is raising the prospect of agents planning evidence in the FBI searching his residents in Malwa saying his lawyers are 89% of the search.
Can you address that, particularly as many of T-Club supporters calling on Vijay for supporting fall of arms and threats against rural agents in one of the search?
Well, as I'm sure you can appreciate, that's not something that I can talk about, so I'd refer you to the department.
I will say that I'm always concerned about violence and threats of violence against law enforcement.
Where was he in the summer of 2020?
We were outspoken.
Anybody threatens any law enforcement at any place, anytime, anywhere, we speak out loudly.
Where was he when Chuck Schumer was on the steps of the Supreme Court?
Where was he when 2,000 cops were injured in the summer of 2020, pelted with bricks, rocks, bottles, Molotov cocktails, frozen water bottles?
Where was he then?
Why didn't he go after those people that used Hillary Clinton's dirty misinformation Russian dossier to lie to a FISA court, not once, but four times over the course of a year, and not a single person was held accountable?
It's unbelievable.
Listen to CNN talk to Trump supporters about the raid.
Listen to this.
They don't want the truth.
That's the bottom line.
They don't want the truth.
You don't think that's why they came here to Mar-a-Lago to try and find out the truth and recover the archives?
No.
They are scared to death of Donald Trump.
It's just a show.
This is like maybe impeachment number four here for Trump.
That's all it is.
That's what I think.
I mean, they didn't get it the first time, the Russian thing.
They didn't get it the second time, right, with Ukraine.
They didn't get it the third time with January 6th.
I think they're running, they know they're running out of time there.
They raid a home, and CNN cameras are there, and some of his past people.
They know what's going on.
It's all for a show to make Trump so he cannot run again.
You don't think that there was a real reason to come to Marla?
It's just a show.
It's not even think.
I know there's no real reason.
I know it in my heart.
I know it in my spirit.
He has never lied about anything.
That's fake news, CNN.
Here's the problems we have is, and this should scare every American, even if you're a liberal, if you're a Democrat, Republican, conservative.
It shouldn't matter.
If we don't have equal justice and equal application of our laws, we don't have a country.
We don't have a constitution because every law is predicated on constitutional rights.
And for example, why hasn't there been a raid on Hunter Biden's home?
Christopher Ray's had Hunter Biden's laptop, and we know there's evidence of crimes on that laptop and evidence that Joe Biden himself lied to the American people about his real knowledge of Hunter Biden's foreign business dealings with countries like Ukraine and Russia and China.
It might explain some of his behavior with these countries.
Then in the case of Peter Navarro, Peter Navarro could have very easily walked into the January 6th committee and said, pled the fifth.
He decided not to.
He's going to explain why in a minute.
And then instead of just calling his lawyer and saying, please have Mr. Navarro report 8 a.m. tomorrow morning at this location.
No, they have to make a big show of it to show how big and tough and how they can intimidate people and harass people and put leg shackles on them, strip search them and put handcuffs on them.
Again, what was the ⁇ it's a misdemeanor, you know, contempt of Congress.
That's all it was.
Anyway, Peter Navarro joins us now.
Welcome to the show, sir.
How are you?
Sean, my friend, always good to talk to you, but these are troubled times.
You were really hitting on some really important things here.
And I think that my case deserves probably a little more attention out there in the broad press, given what's happened at Mar-a-Lago, because there's some parallels here, Sean.
And we didn't have a chance to get into it last night, but let me re-break some news.
I don't know if you're aware of this, but besides this criminal charge that the Justice Department has levied against me, they also filed a civil suit several weeks later.
And what's interesting about that is it's all about the National Archives as the tip of their spear.
And just as there was no reason for the gendered arms to raid Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago treasure because he was cooperating, I was cooperating with the National Archives and Justice as well.
And we were in the process of a negotiation.
And instead of going forward with that, they went and they did the civil suit.
Now, here's what's interesting, Sean.
My lawyers sent them back a letter before they formally filed a civil suit and raised some significant issues about whether the National Archives was trying to use this civil suit and process as a way to get more evidence against me or Donald Trump.
And it's the same thing that may be going on with the Mar-a-Lago raid.
They go in with this Presidential Records Act thing.
They get their nose under the tent there, and then they can grab anything they want.
So you believe it like I do.
I believe it was all a pretext because as of June, the National Archives people had been to Mar-a-Lago and they asked Donald Trump to put a padlock on this one room where there's some documents where he complied and said you can have access to all this anytime you want.
And my point is that the parallel here that the Navarro case is very similar to the Trump case.
It's like they took the step, the unnecessary step of piling on a civil suit on top of my criminal charge as a way of getting what my lawyers say in the letter to them is a possible backdoor discovery, essentially, to build criminal charges against me or the president or both.
And Sean, I've said from the outset, long before I ever got a subpoena, the whole mission of that select committee, and I use that term lightly, is to simply build a criminal case against Trump so he can't run in 2024.
I said that from the outset, what should be shocking to the American public, but doesn't surprise me in the slightest, of how it appears increasingly like there seems to be some kind of coordination, not just between the Justice Department and the select committee,
but also this odd agency of the National Archives using this Presidential Records Act, which is an artifact of the Watergate era, as a way to basically get more evidence to build the criminal case.
But there are similarities, though, Peter.
Why didn't they, Hillary Clinton had 33,000 emails she deleted, and we know that those emails were compromised and that those servers were hacked.
Barack Obama had 30,000 documents that should have been in the National Archives, according to the New York Post.
It's the two-tier system of justice that you correctly and beautifully identified, right?
The point is that they've weaponized the investigatory powers of Congress in a way which violates separation of powers, clearly.
And they've weaponized the Presidential Records Act, apparently, as a way of coordinating and building the case.
And of course, it's like they don't use it against Hunter Biden or Hillary Clinton or anything.
Let me get specifically, because I don't want all our time to be lost.
I think it's very important that people understand something about you.
You could have easily walked into the January 6th committee.
You could have pled the 5th, not answer a single question.
You could have walked out, and your obligations would have been over.
You would not have had this moment at the airport.
Tell us about the day they arrested you, why they did it at the airport, why they just didn't ask you to report.
And did they put you in leg shackles?
Did they put you in handcuffs?
Did they really strip search you?
Yeah, let me walk you through that.
The predicate here is, Sean, I swore an oath, literally, to the president of the United States in this country to uphold the Constitution and my duty to the country.
And I had a duty when President Trump invoked executive privilege.
It was not my privilege to waive, and I had the duty to do what I have done.
And I'm caught constitutionally between two conflicting branches of government.
And look, as I said to you last night, men and women in this country have died defending the Constitution.
The least I could do is face a two-year prison term for doing the same thing.
Quick break more with Peter Navarro on the other side.
We'll look at how is this polling around the country as we now are less than 100 days out of the midterms.
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All right, as we continue, Peter Navarro is with us telling us his story being shackled in an airport for a misdemeanor, more intimidation tactics, and it's getting scarier by the day.
You could have taken an easy way out.
You didn't.
When they did this to you, I want to go.
Did they really strip search you over something as small as this?
Over a misdemeanor?
Everybody out there in Hannityland needs to know.
I live 50 yards away from the FBI, and they could have easily done a voluntary surrender, peaceful voluntary surrender, which is the norm.
They tracked me with a squadron of armed FBI agents out to the airport.
They effectively trapped me in the jetway, and five armed FBI agents grabbed me.
They did not allow me to contact anyone for legal advice, which is a due process violation.
They screwed up the Miranda rights thing.
He took me down in tarmac, put me in handcuffs, drove me back home minus 50 yards back to the FBI.
And about 20 minutes after that, I was in the basement of the court where the FBI agents stood with the sheriffs in this basement.
And I was just like, okay, they strip search me, Sean, first, and then they put me in leg irons.
And they walked me down to the same cell.
that John Hinckley was sat in when he shot Ronald Reagan.
They were somehow proud to say that explained that to me.
And they left me there for three hours.
And meanwhile, they leaked the whole damn thing to the press so that it was bread and circus, political circus, public shame for Navarro.
I'm not ashamed at all of this.
They're jackals.
And three minutes, Sean, three minutes before I was supposed to appear before the judge, they stick me with a public defender, very nice person, but they don't know anything about constitutional law.
Stick me with a public defender and under threat of, well, if you don't take it, you'll probably have to spend the night, right?
That was just the beginning.
And, you know, it's like, Sean, I am the only, only person ever, only senior White House advisor ever in the history of this republic to be treated in this manner.
And Sean, you know, I served honorably for four years, never a hint of scandal.
I helped the president save millions of lives during the pandemic and created hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs.
And this is what I got in the crack baby Hunter Biden roams free to sell us out the Chinese, the same damn Chinese, Sean, that I sat across the table and fought tooth and nail on behalf of this country.
So this is just so over-the-top wrong.
And we need answers, and we're going to get answers.
I filed a motion to compel discovery in my case, and every journalist out there should read that thing because there's as many unanswered questions in there as answered questions.
And we're going to get to the bottom of this with the help of folks like you, Sean, who keeps the light.
We're going to keep this story in the public arena.
Update us regularly.
I'm sorry that you had to go through that.
That is not the norm.
And I worry about where this country is headed.
These tactics have got to stop.
We're now criminalizing political differences.
Peter Navarro will stay on top of this.
I promise you're welcome on these airwaves anytime you want.
Thank you for an update, and thanks for being with us.
One quick thing, Sean.
Yeah.
Taking Back Trump's America.
I've got over $400,000 paid out in legal fees already.
That book is my legal defense fund as well as the way to get Nancy Pelosi out of the House and Trump back in the White House.
Taking back Trump's America on Amazon, if you folks can help me out on that, I would appreciate it.
We'll put a link on Hannity.com as well.
And people don't realize it is hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars in legal fees for people that find themselves in the position that Peter is in.
Thank you, Peter.
Appreciate you being with us.
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