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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, we've got a lot of updates as it relates to this raid on Mar-a-Lago.
Let me play for you, retired FBI assistant director.
His name is Kevin Brock, saying that the FBI is going to regret criminalizing this dispute between Donald Trump and the National Records and Archives Administration.
This was in justthenews.com by John Solomon, who will join us in a minute with Greg Jarrett.
Listen.
It seems like this use, and particularly in very politically sensitive cases, why would the FBI need to use our news article?
They have all these resources to find the truth.
Just your thoughts.
We've got about a minute left on that.
John, I'll just say this.
The FBI should not have participated in this investigation.
It was, to your earlier point, was initiated by the National Archives.
It is something that needs to be settled along established routes in that regard that it's been traditionally used.
There was no need for law enforcement involvement in this, and there was certainly no need for an invasive search of the residents.
I think they're going to regret this.
Many people, even on the left, said if there's no smoking gun, if there's no real media violation here, this is not going to go well.
And now we know there isn't anything here other than just some federal spear fiddles.
That's it, Kevin.
You're right.
We're lean forced.
And they even relied on press reports as part of their reason for getting the warrant to raid from this magistrate, this anti-Trump pro-Obama magistrate.
Even the Wall Street Journal has not really been that friendly recently to Donald Trump saying, is that all there is?
You know, the redacted 38 pages to the evidence that the FBI search really was all about disputed documents.
Then it raises all the questions we have raised on this program, and that is that we don't have equal justice under the law.
How was Hillary treated?
33,000 emails, top secret, classified, identified as crimes by James Comey, but no prosecutor would ever prosecute.
It reveals precious litter, little in so many ways.
But if you look at this more closely, you've got to raise questions here about what is going on and how we're now criminalizing political differences.
Even Bill Maher on his show this weekend telling Rob Reiner, Meathead, you know, that, for example, in the Hunter Biden laptop case, that the media buried it.
And this is the double standard that we talk about all the time.
We don't have equal justice or application of our laws.
Listen.
Enter this question.
Well, is it appropriate?
The question is, was it appropriate to bury the Hunter Biden?
You're talking about the press doing that?
He's saying that's what they did, and that is what they did.
They buried the Hunter Biden story before the election because they were like, we can't risk having the election thrown to Trump.
We'll tell them after the election.
And we know for a fact that that's what they did.
Of course.
You don't say you know for a fact that that's what they did.
I don't know what they did.
I know, because you only watch MSNBC.
That's not true.
That's not true.
Well, then you would know about this.
I do know about that.
You're acting like they do.
I do know about that, and I do watch Fox.
But the point is, we're going to prove now that the press play tried to.
They're admitting it.
The press is admitting it.
Yes, that's not even an issue anymore.
They're saying, yes, we basically did this because we didn't want this to throw the election.
Now, here's another big bombshell before we get to our guests.
This is Mark Zuckerberg on with Joe Rogan talking about how the FBI requested that Facebook censor issues involving the Hunter Biden laptop before the election.
How do you guys handle things when they're a big news item that's controversial?
Like there was a lot of attention on Twitter during the election because of the Hunter Biden laptop story.
Yeah, we have to.
Yeah, so you guys censored that as well?
So we took a different path than Twitter.
I mean, basically, the background here is the FBI, I think, basically came to us, some folks on our team, and was like, hey, just so you know, like you should be on high alert.
We thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election.
We have it on notice that basically there's about to be some kind of dump of that's similar to that.
So just be vigilant.
So just be vigilant.
Anyway, joining us now, we have John Solomon, editor-in-chief of justthenews.com.
Greg Jarrett, best-selling author, host of his own podcast, The Brief.
Welcome both of you.
John, let's get to the news aspect of all of this first.
You did the interview with Kevin Brock.
I think they will come to regret it.
And I think this is all the evidence that we've known for some time, and that it is a dual system of justice.
Yeah, listen, Kevin Brock defends the FBI.
He's a lifelong FBI agent, rose to the state of Chief of Intelligence, which, by the way, deals with these various issues about documents, classified documents.
He looked at that search warrant.
He raised concerns two weeks ago.
When he saw the affidavit, he said, listen, I'm now convinced there wasn't enough there to do this search.
This is not a lawful search warrant.
It doesn't express a crime.
They've criminalized an administrative dispute over documents.
That's coming from a guy that normally defends and takes the side of the FBI, believes in the mission of the FBI.
We all should take pause and listen to a man of that stature with those credentials.
He's saying his own agency's out of line.
That's an interesting moment.
I really found it really fascinating talking to him on Friday.
I found it fascinating as well.
I think it's also big news.
Greg Jarrett, let's get to your point.
Your columns have been dead on point and accurate on all of this and your take on the legality of this, the dual justice system that we talk about, favorable to their raid.
Yeah, well, listen, that's the problem.
But one of the great things about a court instance like this is you can put some of the toothpaste back in the tube.
I agree that it's a late request.
It should have come in right away.
But now that there is a judge involved, it allows for the courts to start to litigate issues.
So it starts with privilege issues, but now it can go to, hey, the president declassified these.
They didn't consider this.
There's a lot of ways for the president to go right now.
And there are two things that are indisputable.
But let me ask you about that because Joe Biden just dismissed the idea that Donald Trump had, in fact, declassified all these documents.
He did.
He's the same president who dismissed the idea that the laptop was real or that his son did anything wrong.
We now found out the FBI has been investigating this son since 2018.
We have to look at the law, and the law is pretty good.
These are things that I've grabbed the rulings from.
I've put them out on Justin News.
The president is the ultimate declassifying authority.
He can do with a few choice words.
He doesn't have to write an order.
He can declassify documents.
He also, according to a 2012 ruling that I focused on, it was in a judicial watch case.
The FBI, according to the federal courts, has the soul of the discretion to determine when a government record is a personal record for the purpose of his presidency.
Those issues have not been put before a court.
They've been put in the court of law, and the president's dumped on them.
President Biden's dumped on them, the media's dumped on them.
But in a court of law, past rulings, past precedent matter.
And I think now we're beginning to see the first counteroffensive in the courts.
The courts are going to get involved in this for sure.
So let's say a special master is appointed.
We have to believe what?
That the FBI that went in there with Glee and took everything that they wanted.
And knowing that this is the same FBI that we're getting more and more evidence has been protecting.
We have 14 whistleblowers we expect to hear from at some point.
Greg Jarrett, that will testify that, in fact, they have been protecting the Biden family syndicate, Hunter Biden in particular, the Biden laptop from hell in particular.
So we're supposed to believe that all these agents, by the way, the same agents involved in the Russia collusion hoax, that they were honest throughout this entire process.
I'm not sure I'm willing to go there.
Well, and that's why even though Garland today at a court filing said, oh, gee, it's too late.
We already looked at all the documents.
Our taint team looked at all of the documents.
Well, the judge should say, I don't care what your tank team did.
I'm appointing a special master to review it.
And the underlying word there would be, I'm not going to take your word for it.
I'm not going to trust you.
Americans shouldn't trust you.
We'll appoint a special master to take a look at it.
The other thing this federal district court judge in Florida may decide to do is challenge the legitimacy of the warrant itself, because that's part of the argument that Trump's legal team made in federal district court.
They said, not only do we want a special master, but we suspect wrongdoing here.
They challenge the warrant itself as a violation of the Fourth Amendment, unreasonable search and seizure.
It was a general warrant, which is forbidden.
Magistrates should never have signed off on it.
So I think this federal district court judge is not just going to pause, as John Solomon pointed out, but I think the judge may decide to take a closer look at what happened here.
All right, quick break more with John Solomon.
Craig Jarrett on the other side, then your calls 800-941-Sean, our number.
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It seems like this use, and particularly in very politically sensitive cases, why would the FBI need to use our news article?
They have all these resources to find the truth.
Just your thoughts.
We've got about a minute left on that.
John, I'll just say this: the FBI should not have participated in this investigation.
It was, to your earlier point, was initiated by the National Archives.
It is something that needs to be settled along established routes in that regard that it's been traditionally used.
There was no need for law enforcement involvement in this, and there was certainly no need for an invasive search for the residents.
I think they're going to regret this.
Many people, even on the left, said if there's no smoking gun, if there's no real media violation here, this is not going to go well.
And now we know there isn't anything here other than just some federal or secure federal team.
That's it, Kevin.
You're right.
We're lean forced.
How do you guys handle things when they're a big news item that's controversial?
Like there was a lot of attention on Twitter during the election because of the Hunter Biden laptop story.
Deniel.
Yeah, so you guys censored that as well.
So we took a different path than Twitter.
I mean, basically, the background here is the FBI, I think, basically came to us, some folks on our team.
It was like, hey, just so you know, like you should be on high alert.
We thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016.
I wore with John Solomon, editor-in-chief of justthenews.com.
Greg Jarrett, host of his own podcast, The Brief, are with us.
Let's talk about a pause and how long are we talking about John Solomon and what will that entail beyond hopefully appointing somebody with no political agenda to see and ascertain whether or not these documents were classified or top secret.
And then how do we know or determine whether they've been declassified by then President Trump before he left the White House?
Yeah, those are facts that need to be put into the record.
And I think you'll see the Trump team now begin to put those sort of specific facts in there.
Hey, this is when the president, this is what he said.
Here are witnesses that were present when it happened.
Those are things I expect to see start coming out.
But I want to also go back to the Justice Department filing that Greg so ably mentioned, because you could see the rush job.
Hey, it's all done.
You don't need to get involved, Court.
There is an extraordinary sideshow going on.
In fact, it's at the Supreme Court right now.
Taint teams, or filter teams, as they're called, are currently under review by the Supreme Court.
There is a case that has wound its way up involving a guy named Mordecai Korf in which the Justice Department's ability to use these tank teams is being challenged at the Supreme Court.
There's a writ of surtiori pending before it.
You could see the Supreme Court take that case any day.
That could have a profound effect about what's already happened to President Trump.
But I want to go back to April, before we ever knew that there was going to be a raid of President Trump's home.
The Securities and Exchange Commission made this extraordinary statement just before Easter saying, hey, there was the use of taint teams in a lot of these financial cases with the SEC, with the U.S. Attorney's Office, and we did a bad job.
We probably violated people's rights.
We had control deficiencies.
That's their great bureaucratic word to say, hey, we looked at things we shouldn't have looked at.
We got to do this better.
These idea of taint teams are not absolute.
The Justice Department wants to make it sound like these are absolute and new.
These are relatively new concepts, and there are real glaring problems.
The SEC just admitted to them.
The Supreme Court's being asked to look at whether they're even legal.
That could have an impact.
This is going on right in the same moment that the taint team is being used for the President Trump search.
And I think we need to be aware of the history.
I'm going to have a story tonight on the history of these taint teams and the many problems that have already been uncovered about them.
All right, last 30 seconds.
Greg Jarrett.
Yeah.
Yeah, John is absolutely right.
A taint team within the Department of Justice, that's like cops investigating cops.
They're inherently biased.
And if you don't think for one moment that FBI officials and DOJ officials outside the filter team didn't examine all of these documents, which are personal and not presidential papers, which are privileged, attorney-client privilege, yeah, you're smoking something.
I guarantee you they looked at it.
Taint teams, filter teams within the DOJ is a charade and an injustice.
I bet they were working around the clock hoping that there wouldn't be a special master appointed anytime before they got through every document.
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, the amazing thing is all this pushback now as it relates to the student loan giveaway.
Now, the Biden loan cancellation program, if again, you look at University of Pennsylvania Wharton School of Business, their budget model, they're pointing out that debt cancellation alone will cost us $519 billion.
They can't even be honest with the figures.
They're never honest with the figures.
It's always three, four, five times whatever they say it's going to be.
And that with loan forbearance costing another $16 billion.
And in light of behavioral changes and program details, the total sum could be over a trillion dollars.
The estimate is even more than the National Taxpayer Union Foundation.
They analyzed the budget model and expected the foundation found that debt consolidation and cancellation rather will cost the average individual taxpayer over $2,000.
And it's now, what, day five, six, seven?
And the White House still refuses to say who's going to pay for Biden's trillion-dollar handout.
And remember, it was Nancy Pelosi.
I played it for you.
Nancy, oh, he doesn't have the authority to do this.
Then why is he doing it?
I mean, that raises a lot of questions about the legality.
Once again, it's just make up the rules as you go along.
What's interesting is you got even Clinton people now speaking out about how stupid this is.
I never thought I could play Paul Bagala and not laugh at the comment that he makes, but listen to the comment that he makes and how he trashes it and trashes his party for doing it.
Well, it's bad policy as well as bad politics.
For that amount of money, you could fund free pre-K for every three and four-year-old for 10 years.
You do a lot more good for poor people, communities of color, and the underprivileged by doing pre-K.
You could forgive all medical debt, which, unlike student debt, is not freely entered into.
So, Democrats, I'm a progressive.
I want to help folks, but I think this is terrible policy.
The politics of it, we saw Tim Ryan is in a tough race in a tough state, and he can't stand this idea.
Senator Warren is all for it.
She's not exactly from a swing state in Massachusetts.
Senator Catherine Cortez-Masto from Nevada got a tough race.
She doesn't like this.
Michael Bennett, the senator from Colorado, he doesn't like this.
Democrats, good Democrats.
Sharice Davis, one of the more impressive Democrats, the only Democrat in Congress from Kansas, she doesn't like it.
So what is my party doing with this?
They're disadvantaging.
I think they're not helping the people that we're here to help, which is poor people in underprivileged communities.
And they're not helping their politicians who are running.
Freely entered into.
Not words I ever expected to hear from Paul Bagala.
And then he said something that was very interesting.
Whereas if you think about the debt and this amount of money would cancel all of the medical debt that people accumulate that have serious medical conditions, that they didn't freely enter into a situation where they got lymphoma or some type of cancer or breast cancer or prostate cancer, whatever it happens to be.
This was an unexpected cost.
And it's not like, you know, keep your doctor, keep your plan, and save a lot of money worked out very well for many Americans anyway.
And all of that debt could have been canceled.
And the thing is, there's so many angry people say, why did I pay back my debt?
And now why am I put in a position that my money, on average, the average American will pay $2,000 to pay off the debt that people freely entered into.
Now, Linda, I don't know if you noticed the mob, the media mistook some words that I said about this.
I was talking about myself and how when I got out of, you know, when I ran out of money and I got out of college because I didn't have any money to continue, that I still had to pay off my debt at a time where I was living paycheck to paycheck.
And I ended up writing a check, $58.05 every month to Jamaica Savings Bank.
And I paid off my loan and it wasn't easy to do.
This basically, if you have a $125,000 income level limit, there's nobody that gets out of school that is, unless you went to law school or you have some very specific skill is going to make that kind of money.
And so everybody starts out, but they also capped it at 5% of what your income is, which is pretty low for somebody starting out.
Although I would advise people to get rid of their debt as quickly as they can.
That's just my own humble advice.
Don't take, I'm not a financial advisor.
Do what your own financial advisors tell you to do.
So what was the problem?
The fact that you could commiserate?
No, the fact was Hannity doesn't even want his own employees to get free college tuition or no, you don't.
You want us to believe in the American way, which is capitalism and freedom.
And quite frankly, I don't even know what a college education is worth these days, considering what they're teaching our kids.
So as far as I'm concerned, a trade might be a much better path at this point.
Well, it's capped at 5%.
What I'm saying is, is that every other person that came before them that took out student loan debt, in other words, freely entered into an agreement to pay it back, should not expect others to pay off their debt.
Exactly right.
That's all there is to it.
And I'm speaking from my own experience at a time in my life when I had no money and was living paycheck to paycheck, didn't have a safety net of any kind.
There was no government program ready to help me out if I wasn't able to pay back my student loan debt.
And I paid it back.
And in the end, I actually think it builds character.
In the end, I think if you make a deal, you make an agreement, it's like, oh, pay off my car, pay off my mortgage.
You know, where does this stop?
Where does it end?
Exactly right.
And I think we're seeing that right now.
And why should people that paid off their debt be forced to pay off other people's debt?
That guy from last week, where we were playing that sound from a couple of years ago, he talked to Senator Warren and he said, you know, my wife and I never went on vacation.
We saved all our money.
You know, I'm one of those people, started 529s, you know, all the things, you know, like you put your heart and your mind and your soul and you tuck away your money so that your kids can go to college because you don't want to burden them with the debt.
You know that it's a big, you know, it's a burden to carry.
It is.
So if you can help your kids in any way, you do.
And then you take out school loans and you make the promise because we live in a great country that's willing to help us out.
But now it's not helping out.
It's a handout.
It's completely different.
From the time my kids were born, I started saving for their college.
I did not make the money that I make today.
I didn't ever expect I'd make the money that I make today.
Okay, I've worked hard.
I've been very fortunate.
I call it an undeserved life.
I put all of that aside.
But the reality is that's what I was thinking about when they were born.
I didn't want to waste my money on other things.
I prioritized and sacrificed so that when they got older, that I'd have that money available for them so they could go to the college of their choice and not have to go through what I went through and, again, make it a little bit easier for the next generation, which should be everybody's goal.
But you didn't expect a stranger to do it for you.
You didn't expect somebody to do that for you.
And that's what's wrong with today's culture.
I mean, it's one of many things.
There's a lot of things wrong.
But that's a really big problem.
Steve is in Illinois.
Steve, how are you?
Glad you called.
Happy Monday.
How are you, Sean?
What's going on?
Hey, I just want to say one thing before we start talking.
I really challenge you to come to Illinois.
I'm a farmer and see what the mid-of-the-country farmer is dealing with with today's inflation costs.
And trust me, we are dealing with a lot of pain, and most people don't know this.
And I would love for you to shed the light on this problem.
But the reason why I called is my daughter started college this year for her first year.
It's $40,000 a year, Sean.
We have saved from the day she was born for a college savings plan for her and my son.
And we're not going to have enough money to pay this college debt.
My son wants to go into the U.S. Army, which I'm proud that he does.
And I hope he does because it's going to give us a break on schooling because it is so astronomical cost for the American people today.
I don't know how people are going to retire if they want to help their kids.
It's nuts what these colleges are charging our kids today, Sean.
I have been talking to farmers like you, and we had a rancher call last week.
And this has now been going on on a fairly regular basis.
I'm actually really honored that so many ranchers and farmers listen to this program.
And I'm grateful that they call in and they tell us what the real situation is on the ground, how expensive fertilizer is, how expensive seed is, how difficult it is to keep their equipment online because of supply chain problems that they're all facing, et cetera, et cetera.
And the food shortage that they've been telling us now for six months that is coming.
I'm telling you right now, it's coming.
My fertilizer cost is $1,000 a ton.
What did it used to cost?
My alfalfa crop is two-thirds down on production.
I don't have the money to put in fertilizer to keep my crop going because I cannot recoup the cost of fertilizer.
So what did it used to cost you?
Are burnt up.
But I want to ask you, what did you used to pay for the fertilizer?
What's that?
How much did you previously pay for fertilizer?
$300 to $400 a ton.
It's $1,000 a ton today for potash.
I need 200 pounds per acre for my alfalfa.
And my alfalfa is down two-thirds on production.
Are you even going to be able to survive?
No.
And I'm going to tell you, I've got to dip into my savings account this year to pay my implement payments.
I'm going to take a loss on my taxes this year, Sean.
It's tough.
The problem for some people, we see this in the ranching business as well, they're getting out.
If the small farmer is pushed out.
I got too much invested, but my point is diesel.
You got too much invested, but how many years in this state?
But listen to me.
How many years can you survive at not making money?
You have to make a profit or you cannot stay in business.
It becomes at some point mathematically impossible.
It is.
And Biden is saying that gas is dropping, but diesel is going up.
It went up 20 cents a gallon in the state of Illinois two days ago.
It's $5.20 a gallon.
Diesel runs this country.
It feeds this world.
What are they giving?
What kind of con job are they selling on the American people?
I'm tired of this, Sean.
It's got to stop.
The American people that are fight these people at the ballot box now are we are going to fight them in another aspect of life that we don't want to see.
I'm telling you, they are destroying the wealth of the American people.
And the American farmer is the backbone of the United States of America.
You're a great American, sir.
Every sign I see, every indicator I watch, I'm just shaking my head.
This is not good.
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Joe Biden doesn't know where he is.
What are we talking about?
Bud, we know where Sean is.
You can't intimidate us.
You cannot control us.
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Let me just tell you one thing.
I've always said this.
I wrote about this in Live, Free, or Die, America and the World on the Brink, Chapter 4, Socialism's History of Failure.
Whatever name, whatever manifestation, it always ends the same.
And that is that you have promises that they can never keep.
That's already happening.
Secondly, you end up with more poverty than ever before.
And then it's a matter of how much of your freedom did you give away in the name of false security and how much power did they take from you in the meantime?
That is what's unfolding here.
Now, if they break the back of America's farmers and America's ranchers, then We will have an appreciation when we're paying astronomical rates for simple basic staples that were so easily available in years prior.
This is why this election matters so much.
Over in Europe, because they gave in to the new Green Deal radical socialists over there, it has gotten so bad that there are now predictions that Europe will face terrible winters for the next five to ten years unless they put a gas price cap, according to the Belgian energy minister making that warning about the next five to ten years.
That means they only have two choices at that point.
Either they somehow find a way to get more energy independent.
I know in the case of Germany and other countries, they're trying to take mothballed coal-burning electricity grids and get them back online.
That's going to be a, you know, good luck with that effort.
That probably will take years.
But then they're dependent on Vladimir Putin, and Vladimir Putin is not going to give them a break.
He's going to charge the maximum amount.
And this would be America's greatest gift that we could ever give Europe post-rebuilding Europe after World War II.
And that is to go into mass production of energy and become the most energy-dominant country on the face of the earth.
It will mitigate Russia's power over Europe.
It'll mitigate Russia's economy completely.
It will also result in a lot of high-paying career jobs and wealth creation in America, the likes of which we've never dreamed before.
And it would help our farmers and it would help out our ranchers and help out all the people that sustain us every day.
800-941-Sean is our number.
This is going to get bad.
All right, quick break right back to the phones.
800-941-Sean, our number, if you want to be a part of the program as we continue at the top of the hour, we're going to take a look at what's going on in Colorado.
Do we have a shot at that Senate race against Michael Bennett there?
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