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Post Roe - August 26th, Hour 3

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All right, News Roundup Information Overload Hour 800 941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program, uh, we've talked a lot about what's going on in the country in terms of crime and murder and and mayhem, and I know the Democrats think there was only one riot in the country in the you know, between the summer of 2020 and January 6th.
Uh no, there were 574 riots in the summer of 2020.
We had dozens of Americans die.
They're dead, killed, just like, you know, Horace Loret uh Lorenzo Anderson Jr.
Remember that?
Remember I had his father on the TV show crying his eyes out.
He lost his son, his namesake, uh and and so many others.
That was in the Chop Chaz Summer of Love Autonomous Zone, spaghetti potlug dinner zone, as they called it.
I mean, it's so sad.
We had police precincts burned to the ground, and then we have a a now vice president, then can candidate for vice president, Kamala Harris.
They're not gonna stop.
They shouldn't stop.
Take note.
Beware.
They're not gonna stop.
We're not gonna stop.
It's gonna continue even after the election.
And then tweeting out a bail fund so the rioters get out, billions in property damage, ricks, ru bricks, rocks, bottles, Molotov cocktails, and uh over two thousand injured police officers.
No investigation.
Then we have this more recent phenomenon.
We had the assassination plot, uh, as you know, of Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh.
Now we got more details on this.
Now it's interesting.
Democrats, you know, in another power grab have introduced a bill to enact term limits for Supreme Court justices.
Anyway, the search warrant application shows a very chilling online postings of this Kavanaugh assassination suspect, and apparently he meticulously planned and alleged the plot, even reached out for advice from an internet forum,
and the FBI search uh warrant obtained by Fox News Digital showed that various search uh terms were related to the attack, including how to be stealthy, assassin skills, most effective place to stab someone in the weeks leading up to the planned attack.
I'm gonna stop Roe v.
Wade from being overturned, he said.
You know, after the Road decision, we had over fifty-nine specific instances where pregnancy centers, some that are pro-life.
Well, you're not allowed to advocate a position that you believe that abortion's wrong.
What it you follow your conscience, follow your religious beliefs.
Apparently not.
We've had instance after instance of these crisis pregnancy centers that were hit, churches that were, you know, Molotov cocktails thrown into places.
On June 7th, the Buffalo Medical Office of the Pro Life Pregnancy Center, Compass Care was firebombed.
The radical abortion terrorist group, Jane's Revenge, took responsibility.
No arrests were made.
You know, fifty-two days later, the facility is now finally reopening to patients, and they're holding a grand reopening conference uh on August the first.
Anyway, uh joining us now is Compass Care CEO, Reverend Jim Harden is with us.
Uh first, I'm very, very sorry what happened uh to your facility.
Um were people hurt?
Well, thank you, Sean.
I really appreciate that.
It's an honor to be with you.
Thankfully, no one was hurt.
It happened in the dead of night.
These people are cowards.
Um and they're bullies.
And this is what they do.
They they gave us 30 days to shut down Jane's Revenge.
And of course we didn't.
And uh they took responsibility two days after the firebombing, catastrophic damage, their signature graffiti scrawl was on the side of our building and said, Jane was here.
And then two days later they said, Yeah, that's what that was us.
We did that.
And furthermore, if you don't shut down, uh the next time it's not gonna be so easily cleaned up as fire and graffiti.
It's an open season, they said, um, pregnancy centers.
We're peaceful pro-life pregnancy centers.
What what we can't believe the way we want to believe and behave the way that that's consistent with our beliefs.
We believe everyone is equally valuable and deserving a blessing and protection because we're made in the image of God, both mother and child.
And so we we we provide ethical medical care and comprehensive community support for her for free.
And yet somehow that's a threat uh to the abortion industry.
Well, let me let me go through the services that you offer.
You have a deeply held religious belief, your conscience guides you, you are pro life, You believe that life begins at conception.
Is that a fair characterization?
Very fair.
Okay.
So you set up a crisis pregnancy center to help young women that come to your center that are in a situation where they had an unplanned pregnancy, correct?
Correct.
Okay.
And I'm sure these girls are stressed out, they're distraught oftentimes.
Oh, yeah.
They're worried, they're concerned, maybe they're very young.
I'm I'm sure you have kids very young going in there occasionally.
Maybe regularly.
Regularly.
When a woman faces on time pregnancy, she says, I'm stuck, I'm trapped, I've got no other choice.
I need to have an abortion.
It doesn't sound like choice to me, it doesn't sound like empowerment to me.
So walk me through what your group does.
What do you do?
Yeah.
Somebody comes in and says they're in that situation and they sit down with you, sit down with other counselors.
What do you tell them?
What do you talk about?
Well, first of all, we give her a health assessment, baseline OB care, okay?
And we determine if she's actually got a viable pregnancy.
It's possible to not have a viable pregnancy and yet have a positive home pregnancy test.
So that's you know, good news for a lot of women who think they might be pregnant and don't want to be.
Um the second, so we do ultrasound scan to determine if she's got a viable pregnancy.
Then we determine exactly how far along she are she she is with that ultrasound scan.
Um that that helps her understand what type of abortion procedure the abortionist would give her.
And that that helps us educate her about the the risks and side effects as well as the cost associated with all those those abortion uh you know options that that they're she's gonna be given.
And then third, we give her information about S T D testing and treatment, and we actually give her S T D testing and treatment uh because she values her reproductive health.
She wants to be pregnant, but just not now or not in this way or whatever.
And so we we we we help her with that.
And then we we go through options consultation with her.
We give her uh we give her personalized uh you know support for throughout the community, anything that's driving her to get the abortion, anything that's a concern of hers, we can address those concerns either in-house with mother care teams or by connecting her with resources outside in the community to give her a vision of her future after having had a child.
You know, and you're doing all of this now.
Where do you get the money to support such a an extensive program such as this?
Well, unsurprisingly, we don't get any money from the state or federal government, and we never have.
We get all of the money to mean you don't get money like Planned Parenthood founded by Margaret Sanger, um uh a person that was uh deeply rooted in eugenics and and other controversial views.
Uh no, not a not a dime.
That's that's interesting if the government would support such a thing.
But uh we we get all the money for providing for these women for uh you know for private donations and churches.
And it's you know, it's it's significant.
It's a major investment.
This is a commitment of the people of God uh at work.
And uh and they they would not have us homeless i uh in Buffalo when we are firebombed.
We've got offices in Buffalo, Rochester, and and Albany.
We've also served helped 650 other pregnancy centers all across the country improve their services.
They're using our strategies and our materials.
And we're gonna give them the 21st century tools.
We're giving them the 21st century tools to reach and serve these women before they travel because the abortion industry changed overnight on June 24th.
It's an amazing time.
So you do these wonderful things and people have an opportunity.
Nobody has to go into your center, but people come to your center and you offer them help.
You offer them medical care, you offer them, you know.
I'm I'm sure you you probably have gone way above and beyond in cases where a girl might be I don't know, abandoned and on her own and she doesn't know what to do, doesn't have a place to stay, a place to go.
I'm I'm assuming you probably have stepped up in situations like that and and found a solution for girls.
Is that true?
We do that every day.
There isn't a day that goes by that we don't do that, Sean.
In fact, there's stories and they patients love us.
They they they they love us so much that they want they they're happy to have us take their pictures and do interviews with them and put it out, put on videos and put it put it out publicly.
They are so grateful.
Almost everybody that I know that says that they're pro-choice, they're in the category of abortion, yeah, they believe it should be legal, but very rare and also very early.
You don't wait until you have a fully formed child.
Now, I know you disagree with that.
I'm just giving you their point of view.
Sure, sure.
But there but there are others that b you know, this idiot Northam, the former look, governor of of the Commonwealth of Virginia, well, first the baby's gonna be born, then we'll make the baby comfortable, and then the the mother will have a conversation with the doctor about whether the baby lives.
I mean, or having an abortion, you know, uh eight and a half months into pregnancy when that child is completely viable outside of a mother's womb.
I cannot understand that evil.
I I can understand the nuance, like you might disagree with me.
I make exceptions for rape incest to the mother's life.
I don't know if you disagree with me.
I bet I would assume you do.
Uh yeah, sure I do, but that's okay.
So here's the thing.
I I would this is uh this is a tragedy, and the reason why it's a tragedy is because of what the Supreme Court said, and they clarified it for us.
In 1973, Supreme Court asked and asked uh uh an eerie question, and that was does the word person apply to the unborn?
And their answer in 1973 was the word person does not apply to the unborn.
So when Dobbs came out and reversed the road decision, they said that the Roe decision was egregiously wrong, specifically on that point of personhood.
Because as soon as we start parsing out who qualifies as a person under the law and who does not, who qualifies as free fifths of a man who qualifies as a whole man?
Who qualifies listen?
I will concede that my exceptions are intellectually inconsistent.
Your your your opinion is more pure.
The only reason I allow for the exception is whether it's rape, incest, or the mother's life.
Well, in the mother's life, that's a different case, but rape or incest.
There was no choice at all, and and this was a violent act perpetrated on an innocent person.
Yes.
And and so I put that in a very different category of somebody that decides that they're going to engage in adult behavior and don't make adult decisions to prevent it from happening because we know how to prevent pregnancy, Reverend.
I don't know if you talk about it much, but you know what?
We uh it's just a reality.
Yeah, I I it it it is obvious uh to know how to prevent prevent pregnancy.
And I I would say that the important for important thing for us to know right now is what do we what do we do with for children that are alive?
What do we do with the children that are conceived?
I believe, along with uh contrary of other people uh of other people, thousands, tens of thousands, millions of people, that God is the author of life.
He's the one that intervened and started that life.
And it's our job not to determine who lives and who dies, but how to protect those lives.
And that's the the government's primary job.
Again, if if the government misses this point, they they miss this point of government.
It's their job to protect all people equally without qualification.
Otherwise, uh we we our justice system is is just a morass, it's a sham.
Uh it's a you know, uh something to control the population with uh by by a handful of people.
No, I think listen, what you're doing is honorable.
What you're doing is obviously your calling in life and and I admire you for it.
I admire all the people that donate to you.
Um I think helping these young girls out is no greater greater work that you can be involved in.
I'm grateful for the work that you do.
And I'm saddened that you and your group had to go through this, and sadly too, you're facing even more threats.
Well, and I'm just speaking from my own experience.
Um you cannot have enough security.
You just can't.
And um I hope you're you're as part of your rebuilding, you've taken all the measures necessary that they can't pull this again.
We have taken well, there's so many security things I didn't even know about.
Uh and they're they're definitely Oh, I know about them all because I have them all at my place.
Trust me.
I got probably have uh I I could probably give you a tutorial on everything you got.
Oh, maybe maybe I should take that tutorial because it is absolutely astounding what what kind of security we need in addition to arm guards and perimeter, etc.
But it's sorry about that.
It shouldn't be in America today, though.
No.
Should it?
No.
But these these these politicians, these pro-abortion politicians in charge of the Democratic Party, they're emboldening the violence.
And it and they're the ones that need to come out and and and criminalize it and stop it and basically arrest people.
Uh we're we're we are literally at war.
They they've they've essentially said, we're gonna attack you just like James, you know, the motto of James Revenge, the pro-abortion terrorist group attacked us.
Yeah.
If abortion isn't safe, then neither are you.
And it seems like what these full abortion politicians are telling us too.
If abortion isn't safe, pregnancy center, then neither are you.
So we're getting attacked by by New York State Governor Hochel.
She's she signed a bill to to investigate us instead of the arsonists.
Uh we're getting attacked by New York State uh attorney general, Latisha James, demanding that Google wipe us off the map so women can't find us.
We're getting attacked by Joe Biden, uh, demanding that uh Attorney General Merrick Garland investigate the quote unquote fraudulent practices of pregnancy centers.
I mean, who's who's committing a fraud here?
The abortionists are are are giving away these chemical rather selling chemical abortions, which are 400% more dangerous than surgical abortions, and they're saying that they're pay for the pylon.
Whatever happened to freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of conscience.
I thought liberals believed in all that.
Clearly they don't.
We're gonna continue to follow.
If you run into any problems, please always feel free.
These uh these microphones are open to you anytime.
God bless you and what you're doing.
Um our hearts go out to these young girls.
They're um I'm sure that's a very difficult, hard time in their lives, and people that lift them up like you are are truly angels, and uh God bless your work, and I appreciate people uh people in this world like you for doing what you're doing.
And we don't agree completely.
You're no, you're more intellectually honest.
I will acknowledge if I believe life begins at conception and I make those exceptions, it it's it's less intellectually consistent than your position.
I'm acknowledging that.
Anyway, I appreciate I'm grateful that you're willing to talk about it.
It's what needs to happen.
Appreciate you being with us, sir.
God bless you.
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All right, 25 to the top of the hour officially.
Yes, we are in uh recession, and officially your president Joe Biden got owned, sadly, pathetically, by the China uh by the Chinese president President Chi.
It's so disgusting.
It really is.
And you know what?
I just keep going back to what is what does China have on Hunter and the Biden family syndicate?
What does Russia have on Biden and the and the Biden family syndicate?
What do they have on Hunter?
You know, apparently President Chi using his leverage to embarrass, humiliate Biden during this two-hour phone call, repeatedly threatening the U.S. And in the face of uh President Xi's firm words on Taiwan, Biden affirmed the U.S. does not back Taiwan independence.
Not only did she again laid down China's red lines as it relates to Taiwan, but the Chinese leader then stressed Beijing vehemently opposes the intervention of other powers according to the quotes of China state media.
And from Beijing's point of view, well, Chi was putting Biden on notice over all these recent U.S. maneuvers, saying, in essence, uh, I'm in charge now, not you.
Now, I had a lot of sources when Donald Trump was president, a lot more than I have now.
And I could tell you with a hundred percent certainty that that was not the way Donald Trump dealt with President Chi.
And it was not the way he dealt with the Taliban, and it was not the way he dealt with Putin at all.
800.
Oh, one other thing.
Now, I forgot the other big story of the day is yeah, we're in the middle of a recession.
You know, this you know, Peter Ducey just owned the White House press secretary, um Corinne Jean-Pierre yesterday in this exchange about changing the definition of a recession, because now we got the news today.
It's official, we're in a recession.
And why is it the White House officials are trying to redefine recession?
No, we're not redefining recession.
If we all understand the recession to be two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth in a row, and then you have White House officials come up here to say, no, no, no, that's not what a recession is.
It's something else.
How is that not redefining recession?
Because that's not the definition.
That is not the definition.
In 2008, of course, economists have a technical definition, which is of a recession, which is two consecutive quarters of negative growth.
I can tell you this.
And yesterday he said two negative quarters of GDP growth is not the technical definition of recession.
It is not.
It is not.
Why did he say that?
It is not.
Yes, it is.
Checkmate Doocy.
Doocy was right.
Anyway, 800-941-SHAWN if you want to be a part of the program.
Annette, North Carolina, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, thank you for taking my call.
Listen, I was going to ask you about Garland and biding Trump.
I was gonna ask you about a climate emergency that Biden might declare, but you put him harden on and it broke my heart.
I have an abortion at the age of 14 years old, and I'm 60 years old, and I will never ever be the same until the day I die.
I can ask for forgiveness.
But the guilt will never go away.
Never.
Let me talk to you about this, Annette.
And I know this is a very personal conversation, and obviously this...
No, it's not personal anymore.
This is out there for every woman and every girl to know.
It's a confession that I have never declared, and I want to do this today on the radio because there is nothing more important than your soul and your spirit and your hope and your salvation with God.
And if you have all of those things and you still do an abortion, you will lose all of those things.
You may gain forgiveness, but you will not have the hope.
You will not have the joy.
Your life and your being will be like a big bag of sand.
You will never succeed.
You will never get past it.
That's the reality of having an abortion.
Let me let me let me ask you a couple of questions here.
Um because there's not a single person listening to this program if they're honest.
I'll start with myself, that in the course of their lives has not done things that they regret and regret deeply and regret profoundly.
Um I am I I'm a Christian.
I was raised Catholic.
I went to Catholic schools twelve years.
I believe I love the Mass.
I think the Mass is beautiful.
Um I I left the Catholic church because of their institutional corruption, and I'm not against people that are Catholic.
I made my own personal decision, but I I'm kind of sort of like a I would say non-denominational Christian.
I like Christian contemporary music, I love the service, I love the Mass.
I I go to different churches and I learn in each church I go to.
Let me ask you this question.
Are you a Christian?
Do you have a f a faith?
What is your religious faith, if any?
I'm I'm very glad you asked that question.
I was born and raised with a mother, praying for my soul before I ever entered into school.
I went through the school program as a child, knowing about socialism and knowing that God was protecting my soul.
But the very day that I found out that I was pregnant, I did not think about God.
I did not think about my soul.
I did not think about anything but aborting that baby.
And then after it was said and done, do you think I asked the Lord for forgiveness then?
No, I had to wait until it weighed on me so badly all of these years before I even went back to God.
It was thirty-five years before I went back to God.
Thirty-five years that I never became successful.
I never gained a husband, and I never gained any children, and I would have been a good mother.
I would have been a good wife.
I would have been good at something, but I did not get to find that out because of the guilt and the torment.
Satan took me through even after all of that.
And God knows that I am for I am forgiven, and everyone that hears this knows that God will forgive me.
But the person that can't forgive me is me.
And for the girls out there, and for the Mothers out there, it does not matter whether you're 14 or whether you're 27 or whether you're 35, it's the same.
You are killing a life, and I kill the life.
How am I supposed to atone to God for those kinds of sins?
You can't Annette, let me let me jump in a little bit, and I'm hearing you very loud and clear.
I'm listening very closely to everything that you're saying.
Um that you've been a Christian, I guess ten years, I'm doing the math in my head.
You were 14 years old when this happened.
You're you were a kid.
And I I'm not making excuses.
I'm saying you were a kid, and you made a decision and your conscience has convicted you, and it's very, very clear, you regret it deeply.
You know, the word repentance comes from the Latin.
I learned this in Catholic school when I went to a seminary in high school, it means to change one's heart.
Your heart's been changed on this issue.
If you read the Bible, I don't want to get too religious here, but it this is the moment where my f I I've got to talk about my faith a little bit.
And the story of remember the woman that was about to be stoned to death for adultery.
And then Jesus comes on the scene and says, Ye who were out sin, you cast the first stone.
And then he started writing in the sand, the sins of the people that were holding the rocks, because he knew everything.
He was the Son of God.
You know, Jesus on the cross, what did he say?
This day you will be with me in paradise to the guy that said, I deserve to be here.
You don't deserve this, I do.
What did he say, you know, uh to all of us?
You know, uh, you know, forgive them father, and we're all responsible for putting him on that cross.
You watch the Passion of the Christ, I I look at it and I'm like, that's uh he's there because of me, because of my failings in life.
We know we've got forgiveness.
But but here's what I here's the message that I want to give to you.
If you believe that Jesus forgave that woman and came to forgive all of our sins, then why if he is offered that to you and you believe that, why don't you take the gift that none of us deserve and embrace it and appreciate the gift?
And the last thing I would say is, you know, the Lord's prayer says, forgive us as we forgive others.
And maybe it's time for you to forgive yourself as part of others for your own forgiveness.
Because there's a magic, you know.
The other girls out there, Sean, they need to know that forgiveness is available, but they don't need to go into abortion knowing that forgiveness is available.
I've interviewed many women that have been through what you've been through and feel exactly like you do.
This is an undiscussed topic.
But I'm just saying, for your personal peace of mind, and I know your conscience has convicted you, but there comes a point where you have to accept God's grace.
You know, everyone I think there's this misperception about what it is to be a Christian, and oh, these these sanctimonious Christians want to tell us how to live our lives.
Actually, it's just the opposite.
Christians, you know, I'm I'm the sinner Christian guy.
I'm the one that did all this bad stuff when I was young, and I regret a lot of it.
And you know, the whole point is that we want to be better people, and we're asking God to change our heart and to help us become disciples of Christ, if you will, and live that life.
I look, I'm so far away from that that I can't I I really am not even equipped to to to say all these things to you, but I know it's true.
And if you believe your father that the Son of God came down to forgive all of us for our sins and reconcile us with God the Father, and let not your heart be troubled, and my father's house are many mansions, and I go there to prepare a place for you.
If you just believe that, your faith tells you that you're saved.
Your faith tells you that he paid the price for you.
Your faith tells you that if if you you know, at some point, and maybe this can be a moment where in your life this can you can use your experience to help young girls that are fourteen in this situation.
Maybe take your what what happened to you at fourteen and use that to help others in that situation, and that could become your calling in life.
If I had prayed before I went in there for that abortion, I bet you I never would have done it.
But I was too afraid to even look at the city.
Okay, you were 14.
You made a mistake.
Maybe now it's time for you to go work at one of these centers.
Maybe if you'd like, I'll pull you in touch.
I don't know where you live.
You're um you're in North Carolina.
There are there are crisis pregnancy centers in North Carolina.
Maybe you can volunteer your time and tell people your story and talk to young girls and say, look, I regretted it ever since.
Ever since.
And this is my experience.
And I want to help you.
Can we just leave me out of it now and talk about the girls in this world that don't know God?
And if they would just ask.
But I'm telling you, I'm giving you an o I'm giving you something that you can turn this experience that is you sound like it's tortured you for all of these years.
And maybe now is the time to pivot and help other people, young people that are in that situation, and tell them your story and explain to them, and then maybe you know, somebody that's in the exact same position won't make the same decision that you made.
And you will have played a part in that.
And I think you would look at that as a point of, you know, you know, you're redeeming yourself and healing yourself by helping others.
It makes sense.
I understand.
Yes.
Yes.
Um I I would be the loudest protester against abortion if there ever was.
But maybe maybe maybe your calling is more to tell your story to young girls in crisis, because there are so many of them.
That's what I would look.
I know, for example, I've been talking a lot with Gianno uh Caldwell, and his brother was killed in Chicago.
And like Adam, um Walsh that was killed, John Walsh turned that death of his son, murder of his son into a vocation, into a calling.
And I can see this happening with Giano.
I'm just trying to give you something to think about.
But remember, when when everyone was ready to stone that woman, and Jesus said, Well, where are all the accusers?
Because they all left.
Because he who was without sin cast the first stone.
You know what?
Try to find a way to forgive yourself.
That's my humble advice.
Forgive us as we forgive.
Very powerful words in the Lord's Prayer.
The most important prayer, I think, because it's the one that God taught us, that Jesus taught us.
All right.
Thank you.
Uh listen, Annette, God bless you.
If if something happens or we can never help you, let us know.
If if you maybe find something that a calling in this, call us back and tell us about it.
Okay.
I feel like you're a friend.
I've been listening to you every single day.
I'm thankful for you.
I would this is the same advice I would give any of my closest friends, okay?
God bless you.
We're praying for you.
And and God does forgive.
Accept his forgiveness.
We'll continue.
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