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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, we obviously now have been spending a lot of time discussing the raid at Mar-a-Lago.
Uh, but more importantly, we as as I laid out on TV last night, as I've been laying out in the last hour.
Um, this is not just a Donald Trump problem.
Uh, you know, you have people like Peter Struck, you know, a guy that says to his girlfriend, lover, Lisa Page, uh, when she asks if if Donald Trump could ever get elected in 2016, we're not gonna let that happen.
How do you how do you make such a proclamation that you're never gonna he's never gonna be president?
We'll stop it.
And they did everything they could do to tip the scales on an election in this country, and none of them have been held accountable.
The FBI has had Hunter Biden's laptop, which we know has evidence of crimes on it, that also implicates the big guy, Joe Biden, your president, and they've done nothing with that laptop for two years.
You know, we know in the in the case of Hillary Clinton, I mean, it gets interesting.
You know, her house was never uh rated in Chappaqua.
She mishandled classified information.
Thirty-three thousand emails deleted by Bleach Pit, aids the destroying, you know, iPhones and BlackBerries with hammers and removing sim cards.
The Clintons don't get rated.
These FBI, you know, upper echelon people that abuse their power that are corrupt, they don't get rated.
Hunter doesn't get rated, but Paul Manafort got rated pre-dawn raid, you know, over a Farah violation and a tax violation.
You know, these these are mere process crimes.
You're not talking about dangerous uh drug dealers or or cartel members or mobsters, but it's pre-dawn raid, guns drawn, you know, guns pointed at his head and his wife's face.
Paul Manafort, more than anybody, has has told is now telling his story.
His book is released today.
It's called Political Prisoner, Persecuted, Prosecuted, but not silenced.
You can get it in bookstores all around the country as of today.
It's on Amazon.com.
We have a link on Hannity.com.
Uh, I couldn't put the book down.
I've I've finished it.
I read it cover to cover.
And Paul Manafort joins us now.
Sir, how are you?
Good, Sean.
Thank you for having me on the show again.
Um, you know, your case is is almost you became almost like the canary in the coal mine.
I know you probably don't like to think of your life like that, but it kind of has been uh, you know, the the example of where this where when you have politicized, uh politicized justice system, a dual justice system, unequal justice under the law.
You know, what happened to you is just basically a preview of coming attractions.
Well, that's that's exactly right, Sean.
And I talked about that in the book.
I mean, the D state is not just a danger to people like President Trump or those who support him actively like I did.
It's a danger to Americans everywhere.
And in the book, I talk about that because I was able to the book I I wrote the book, including the first year of the Biden administration, because I thought it was important to carry the messages of the abuses and the weaponization of the justice system, not just through the end of the Trump term, but into what happens if he's not president and if the woke left does take power.
And it's a scary thought because the two-tiered justice system that you're seeing now is exactly a consequence of the dangers of the deep state.
Uh the Muller investigation, you know, and the it's illegitimacy, it's abusive tactics, you know, it's it's obsession with getting Donald Trump.
They weren't obsessed with me.
I was a means to the end.
And in the book, I walked through the details of what Mueller was trying to do, not to just to me, but to get me to give him Donald Trump.
He had a Weiss Andrew Weissman had his theories uh on Trump's guilt as far as being connected to Russia.
They were crazy theories.
He had no motive, he had no link to Russia.
So Weissman just made them up.
And and I walked through all of that in detail from my fifty hours of conversations with We that I was forced to have with Weissman.
Um and what you're seeing now with the raid on the president's home is the natural extension of where they're going.
Um, you know, because they can't afford to have uh Donald Trump come back.
Um so your your history is pretty amazing, actually.
When you look at your background, and I mean you were brought in as a convention coordinator for Gerald Ford.
That was being challenged in 1976 by Ronald Reagan.
Um you worked for George Herbert Walker Bush at 88, you worked for Bob Dole.
Um you you worked for a lot of uh you worked on a lot of political or presidential campaigns at a very high level.
And then in the off season, if you will, you did what people like John Podesta do, correct me if I'm wrong, or James Carville do, or or any one of these these former Clintonites do, and and that is you bring your political expertise and you're brought in to advise on foreign countries' political campaigns or other work.
Is that true?
Uh I did I did campaigns all around the world, but usually I would include in my team uh active Democrats as well, who consultants, because uh when you're across the the ocean, it doesn't matter if you're a Republican or Democrat, and there are believe it or not, some Democratic consultants who care about our country and care about the foreign policy of other countries as relates to our country.
Um so we in in the case of Ukraine, which became sort of uh the the focus uh because of its linkage to Russia, uh I had a team of Democrats who were very experienced, very seasoned, and very involved.
None of them were even looked at by Weissman because they couldn't help him get Donald Trump.
A big part of the the charges against you were Farah violations, uh making false statements, tax issues, etc.
etc.
rather than go through the minutia of that, people can read about that in the book.
I want to talk more about the the actual dealings that you had with Mueller's team, and more specifically, you know, the New York Times labeled Andrew Weissman, Mueller's pit bull, and you dealt with him directly.
Uh everything that I read about this guy, I just reeked of prosecutorial abuse to me.
Sidney Powell wrote a whole book about it, licensed to lie, and and he was prominently featured.
Tell us about that experience.
Now, this is when you were are already arrested, you're in prison, you're in isolation, you you know, you spent nine months in solitary confinement, and they start talking to you to try to get you to cut a deal with them, correct?
Correct.
They they they thought when I said I didn't want to go to trial a second time because I could not get a fair trial.
I mean, the jury was going to be comp uh composed of people from the Washington DC two weeks after the four-week trial I had in Virginia.
There was not one person who was objecting about Paul Vanderport.
And by the way, what percentage of the vote that Donald Trump get in DC?
Exactly.
And then it's exactly.
So I knew I couldn't get a fair trial.
And I go through some of the reasons for that, including the questionnaire that we asked.
You know, Normally you have 30, 40 people at the most be vaudier to be a juror.
I had 120.
I found one person in our questionnaire who could have been objective.
Uh literally over 90 people said they hated Donald Trump and they hated me because of that of him.
So the point is I was not going to get a fair trial in the second trial.
And I had a judge who could have been at the prosecutors table in Amy Jackson Burman Jackson.
So I cut a deal to just stop.
Not to give up anything, but to stop.
There comes a point, I guess you cut your losses.
You know you have no shot at winning.
I couldn't win, and they were going after my kids'assets, and I tried to protect some of those assets, and I was able to get that done.
But I never expected them to like what they heard from me, because I was going to tell the truth, and they didn't want to know what the truth was.
Weissman had his own theories.
Weissman thought, and I go through this in great detail in the book, that Trump and Stone and Manafort were the key to proving Russian collusion.
That Stone was dealing with uh with wiki leaks on the timing of the releases, and he was getting directions from Donald Trump who was uh talking to me about making sure Russia understood the importance of it.
I mean it's crazy stuff.
Uh and it but but through the course of the fifty hours, uh Weissman never presented this is what I think.
Tell me if it's right or wrong.
Weissman would ask me disparate questions in the course of the 50 hours.
But I knew where he was going with the questions.
And so I would answer things that were going to create the truth, not a mosaic that he wanted to create.
And he had these cr he had a crazy theory on what the motive was uh for Donald Trump.
He even had the motive.
Uh and the motive was that Trump was going to let uh let uh Vladimir Putin keep Ukraine.
And because I knew Ukraine, I was part of that lynch pit.
And again in the book, I go through the reality, Donald Trump was harder on Putin than Obama or now Biden.
Uh when it came to the thing.
Donald Trump was never giving a waiver to the Nord Stream two pipeline, and nor do I think that Ukraine would have been invaded had John Donald Trump been president today.
You're 100% correct.
You're 100% correct.
So there's one part of this, you know, um you you were uh in jail at the time, so uh we didn't talk, but I got to know you during the Trump campaign, and we often texted, and at one point the judge just releases twelve hundred of our text messages together.
The funniest thing to me about it was fake news CNN and MSDNC, you know, start you know, Hannity Mannerfort said this and they said this, and they said this, and then their conclusion was, Oh my God, Hannity really believes this crap.
It sounds like his opening monologue every night.
Which to me was a compliment, and it made me think, well, yeah, I believe it.
Do you guys not believe what you say?
That's what I was thinking.
Well, uh, in fact, I don't think they do believe what they say because I guess not.
No, they they look, they knew on Russian collusion what we've now confirmed, which is that it was a Clinton generated uh narrative.
Uh I mean the pieces were there.
Uh you know, and in the book, I mean, one of the things about having a book later in the process is a lot of what John Durham has done in his investigation.
I was able to incorporate in the book, which actually puts some definitiveness to the whole Russia hoax.
Because now we know by by Clinton's own campaign manager's sworn testimony that she created the concept of of the uh the Russian connect of the connection between Trump and uh and Putin.
Uh we also know now, thanks to Durham and go through this in some detail in the book, that John Brennan, a few days after that, briefed Obama.
Yeah, he did interestingly, don't trust it.
This is a political document.
But you know what happened two weeks after that briefing?
Crossfire hurricane was was was greenlit by Peter Strzok and the FBI.
Peter Strzok, the same guy that said in August of 2016, we won't let that happen.
That that Peter struck, meaning he won't win.
If you want the exact quote I got here in in front of me, um and he went on to say we'll stop it, meaning him becoming president.
And if your plan doesn't work, we've got an insurance policy.
Well, by the way, was Weissman asking questions about me?
I've never even asked you that question.
Well, he he he you know, we had we hadn't talked.
Well, you just said actually was very interesting because there were Weissman did take out some of these uh these notes of ours, or emails of ours, and he asked me about it.
I said, Well, what do you want to know about that?
So, well, why were you talking to him when they uh I said he's a friend of mine.
Uh but you said that there was no Russian collusion.
Well, because there was no Russian collusion.
And he was trying to get me to say that I was misleading you.
Uh Russian collusion.
I think it was me venting every night because I was so frustrated because the evidence was so overwhelmingly against their their narrative.
We'll take a quick break, we'll come back.
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All right, well, with Paul Manafort is with us, his book released today.
It's in bookstores all around the country.
Political prisoner, persecuted, prosecuted, but not silenced.
I don't think it could be a more timely book.
Uh Amazon.com, Hannity.com as well.
Uh you know, I just can't believe, by the way, that you spent how much time total did you spend in jail?
Uh about two years.
About about about ten months in solitary and about twelve months.
Uh and the most fascinating part of the solitary we touched on last week, and by the way, we're talking to Paul Manafort's book is political prisoner, persecuted, prosecuted, not silenced in bookstores as of today.
And I just want to ask, what you knew in the that if you told them what they wanted to hear, you were a free man or pretty close to a free man.
Well, I knew that they would go very easy on me, yes.
I mean, would there have been superseding charges brought in a whole second trial?
Probably not.
Uh I mean they when when Gates cut his deal with with uh with Weissman, you know, the soup his superseding charges were dropped.
And they got him to plead a one count, and frankly, he never went to jail.
And if I had given you like Gates gave them me, I'm sure I would have had the same same bad uh uh result.
Yeah.
Well, the book is phenomenal, and we we've only really touched the surface of it.
Um it's a page turner, there's no other way to put it.
You're gonna follow this story and say, Wow, how did this happen in the U.S.?
It's called Political Prisoner, Persecuted, Prosecuted, not silence Paul Manafort.
His book in bookstores now everywhere as of today, Amazon.com, Hannity.com.
Uh, Paul, sorry you had to go through all of that.
I am glad you got pardoned.
I'm glad you're free, and uh, I wish you and the f your family all the best.
And when people read your story, I want the rights for the made-for-tv movie, okay?
You got it, my friend.
It's you can't even make this up.
It's sad that this is happening in our country.
I'll say that.
Thank you, sir.
Driving the liberals nuts.
Sean Hannity is back on the radio right now.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour.
800 941 Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
Uh, let's get to our busy phones.
I know so many have so much on their minds, their hearts, their souls, things you want to talk about.
Um Barbara is in South Carolina.
By the way, where Joey's been hanging out.
Joe Biden's been hanging out.
What's what's up, uh, Barbara?
How are you?
I'm sorry I missed him, not really.
Thank you for having me.
No, no, you're not.
You're not sorry one bit, I can tell.
No, I am not.
No, sir.
I recently ran for Congress because I did um in the primary, I did not make it.
I did very well, however.
I've never had political ambition, but when I saw the communist tactics being used by the media and the left on American citizens, uh, I didn't just panic a little bit because I came here fifty-two years ago with my dad and two siblings.
Castro kept my mother for twenty-three years and three other siblings.
Although I did not live under the rule of of communist tyranny, we were still affected by it.
And so I'm not just a little bit sensitive to it.
And so when I I what we are facing today is critical.
And while we're looking at the symptoms of really at the problem being communism, you know, I'm I'm just when I ran, I ran like my children's lives depended upon it.
And I sounded the alarm.
And my district is well aware of what's going on.
Because I literally, for 16 months, knocked on over 70% of businesses, not just in several uh counties.
We're eight counties in the district, telling people this is communism.
I wore out a pair of nurses' sandals, the cushioning, because I saw AOC, she posted once she said uh pair of shoes that she said she wore out, and I said if she could do it, so can I. And what I have to say is extremely important.
And you know, Sean, the unfortunate thing is that many people see what's going on, but yet they're not willing to believe that it's communism.
And I encountered that so much and so often, and it was um I'm really it's it's like y'all, this is communism, and people want to call it socialism.
And I refuse to do that because the rules Listen, let me let me tell you what it is.
It is statism, it is authoritarianism, it is climate change alarmism, it is rooted in new Green Deal socialism.
It is everything that you've warned about.
It is, you know, big government overreach.
Um, it's it's a danger to freedom is what it's a danger to.
It's a it's a danger to liberty.
And that's where we are right now.
Yes, it yes, we are.
If you go to FARA, the foreign agent registration act, you will see how much money China has paid our media.
Millions, if not billions of dollars, because they have to report Farah foreign agent registration act.
Listen, not just media, that they have paid off the Bidens themselves.
Absolutely.
They are now buying property, farmland, and ranches all around this country.
They're buying them their military um installations in this country, and we're allowing this to happen.
You know, this is a society in decline.
Can I give you good news though?
I mean, everyone always wants to know some good news, right?
The good news is 18 months ago, it was not like this.
18 months ago, China wouldn't be doing what they're doing now.
Eighteen months ago, Vladimir Putin would not have invaded Ukraine.
18 months ago, President Chi wouldn't be flying fighter jets over Taiwan and and pulling all the crap he's been pulling.
How are we going to do that?
We we can we can get back to that, but America's got to be able to stomach a strong president over this this this corpse, this weak, pathetic, decrepit, you know, cognitive mess of a president we now have.
And all the cheating.
If they cheated, if China was willing to attack the world uh with the Wuhan virus, because that's and I believe it was really an attack towards our president Donald Trump at the time because he stood against them.
If we read all the executive orders that he enacted to protect our country from China, and that's that's what propelled me into the race when I saw the executive orders that he and he power grids from China here in the United States, people have no clue.
And I I'm presented these in forums.
I presented people have no clue, but what I also found, Sean, is that people don't care, unfortunately.
They're so concerned.
No, Amer Americans care.
Look, I I fear feel pretty confident about the House.
Um I am urging everyone in this audience to understand that to win the Senate, Republicans have to win every swing state.
I think we'll win Florida.
They've been they've been destroying Herschel Walker with ads in Georgia that are so vile, so vicious.
Yes.
Um I'm not sure if he's gonna be able to withstand the onslaught unless the people of Georgia Just wake up and understand that no Herschel Walker's not Herschel Walker played football for a lot of years and he suffered as a result of it.
You get hit in the head that much that often at that level.
You know what?
He he's admitted that he went through a rough period in his life, and now they're using that against him.
Um Bud in North Carolina, um, I think he's gonna win, but he's got a very tight race there.
Mehmet Oz is going up against the guy who's finally coming out publicly after a stroke and is clearly incapacitated to me.
Clearly is suffering the the after effects of a significant um of cognitive event, I'll put it that way.
I'll be not charitable about it.
And and this guy's to the left of Bernie Sanders.
I hope people in Pennsylvania see that.
J.D. Vance, a tough race in Ohio.
You've got Ron Johnson, they dump 50 million dollars on him.
Uh we've got to also win Missouri.
We gotta win in Nevada with Adam Laxall.
We gotta win with Blake Master out in Arizona.
We we gotta try and pla make a play in Colorado, make a play in in Washington State and New Hampshire.
Democrat, these Democrats, Socialists of America, what with ASC, AOC, and Rashida Taleb are members, they are spreading like cancer throughout our country, and people don't realize that.
They are you know what though in in less than 90 days, we'll start counting down the election next week, but in less than 90 days, you get to decide we can take our government back.
And that would be the big first step getting the House and getting the Senate.
And I I only urge Republicans What about voter fraud?
What about voter fraud?
It is rampant.
No, I mean, a lot of states have a lot of states have made reforms, but not every state.
I agree.
It's a it's a problem.
We need election integrity measures in every state.
I've spelled them out many times.
I won't do it here.
Let me run on uh move on, but I I hear you, I know exactly what you're saying.
You're not wrong, but you know, let's use the power that we know that we do have in November.
Um Republicans should be as energized as any election they've ever voted in, in my view.
Anyway, Barbara, thank you.
Mike is in uh Long Island, he's in New York.
Mike, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
How are you?
Good, Sean.
Thanks for taking my call.
Mike from Long Island.
How you doing, Mike from Long Island?
What's going on, man?
I grew up in Long Island too.
I grew up in Franklin Square.
Where'd you grow up?
Smithtown, born and raised here my whole life, 54 years old.
I know where you are, my friend.
Glad you called.
Yeah, I just want to discuss the uh the border.
I mean, what is this administration doing with the border?
What are they gaining from letting all these people into our country?
I mean, does do they think they're going to be able to vote for us one, you know, vote for presidency?
I mean, what what help me against the case?
Listen, I I I think the Democrats have every intention of offering amnesty to people, and they're not enforcing our laws, quite the contrary, they're aiding and abetting the law breaking.
And my guess is at some point they will offer amnesty to people in the hopes that if you give something of amazing value to anybody, which would be American citizenship, um, and aid in a bet them in and breaking the law, not respecting our law's sovereignty and borders, that they would think on paper at least that that you would that they would probably become lifelong democratic voters.
That's what I think.
It's hurting our schools, it's hurting our hospitals, it's hurting the whole infrastructure.
If these people are here, he left the wheel.
I mean, we we gotta pay for food, shelter, health care, housing, uh, education for for people.
Look, I'm for legal immigration.
I don't care where the hell you come from, but I want to check your background.
In the middle of a pandemic, you need a health check.
And the third thing you need to show is that you are financially able to care for yourself.
And and you won't be a burden on the American people because we can't afford it.
Then welcome to America, and I don't give a damn where you come from, but we gotta check you out.
And we're not doing that right now.
I agree with you, and it's just it's it's a it's shameful that this is happening to this country.
There's 4,000 people coming in today, uh, you know, and now they're shipping them to New York City, and you know, they're gonna wind up on my back.
Actually, that's that that that's a genius move by Greg Abbott.
I'm telling you, and and David Patterson's a former New York City governor, I'm sorry, New York State governor, even said, Wow, I gotta give credit.
The governor of Texas is brilliant.
Governor of Texas is is is going to be reelected thanks to the help of New York City Mayor Adams.
And New York City Mayor Adams and Mer Muriel Bowser.
Oh, she wants to call on the National Guard because she has to deal with what Texas deals with every day.
And Eric Adams is now dealing with what Texas and border states have to deal with every day.
And they don't like it.
Anyway, my friend, got a roll.
It's a level of lawlessness I've never thought I'd see from a president at all.
At all.
All right, back to our busy phones.
Uh Alan is in Houston, Texas.
Alan, how are you?
Thanks for checking in, my friend.
Hey, Sean, you're a great American, and I appreciate everything you do for us every day.
You too, my friend.
What's going on?
Hey, um, I'm a uh contractor and I do mostly remodeling, and um I agree with you 100% that the housing market is about to go uh horribly south.
But what I am noticing is that um people are spending money on remodeling and improving the homes that they currently have.
They're not gonna, you know, busted up to uh five and a half or uh, you know, six point um you know interest rate.
They're gonna protect the investment that they already have.
And the other thing that I've noticed is that um, you know, supplies that were allocated for new home builders are now coming onto the market because new home builders um from my suppliers aren't actually you know holding those products for those guys.
And so it's easier for me to actually get products right now and um you know take care of my company.
Let me help you out by reading you a headline in today's New York Post, okay?
It says housing recession is hitting home.
I I don't know if you listen regularly to the program, but I've been saying for months, wait till the housing market gets hit.
That's next.
And it says the U.S. housing market has plunged into a full-blown recession as tight-ended economic policy, surging expenses weigh on home builders.
I I said the first thing that's gonna happen is home builders like yourself, that you guys, it's it's your home building is coming to a screeching halt with a few notable exceptions like Florida, Texas, Tennessee, the Carolinas where people are moving to in droves.
They're doing okay.
They're gonna survive this better than other states.
And then sale of existing homes is gonna slow down, then home values are gonna plummet dramatically, and it's going to price people out of the the housing market, and it's it's it's not gonna be pretty because people already saw their 401k and IRAs beaten down because of the Biden economy.
And you know, Sean, I agree with you 100%.
I'm not building new homes.
I'm just remodeling people's existing homes.
And um, I think that that's a viable market, um, at least with you know the company that I'm with.
Um, you know, I'm not I'm not a new home uh contractor.
I'm just a remodeling, you know, siding windows, roofing type of guy.
Yeah, look, that that probably people that have had to be on a waiting list for a year to get something small done.
You they they're gonna now be able to get guys like you to do it.
Things that that you weren't able to get a contractor for.
They'll be more readily available.
I just happen to be lucky.
I'm friends with all my contractor friends.
I pay them well, they do a great job, and they're very, very accommodating to me, and I have a great relationship with them.
I found the right people, but but guys that are were building homes are now gonna go into your business, and that's gonna eat away at some of your business.
That's the next thing that's gonna happen to you, which is unfortunate because that's how you put bread on the table, right?
That's that's that's probably the the truest thing I've heard today.
Um, you know, I wish I was up in uh Long Island to be able to help you out, Sean, but uh You know, Houston, Texas, is still putting uh bread on my table.
Listen, you're gonna fare better than other people in other states, I'll tell you that.
Because people in Texas, there's still a massive influx into Texas, people moving to Texas.
That's not gonna stop.
I think you'll be okay.
I mean, it may not be exactly what you want, but you're not gonna be suffering like people in New York, New Jersey, Illinois, and California that are in the same business as you.
I promise, okay.
Have been uh people from California coming in and buying uh rental properties and just being out of state tenants, and um Wall Street is doing a lot of this now, and this has now become their new investment thing because the return on investment is pretty good.
Um look, whatever puts whatever puts food on your table, you're gonna work.
If people you want to work, you're you're an average American that wants to work hard, get a fair paycheck, and take care of business.
Uh I think you're gonna be okay in Houston.
I really do.
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What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
From Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
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