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Trump vs. Racism - August 16th, Hour 3
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So there is a story.
We touched on it last night on Hannity on TV, and we'll touch on it here.
And you would think in this woke world that something like this couldn't happen, but just the opposite.
Um so you've got an agreement between the Minneapolis Federation of Teachers Union and the School District that states the following that if you are a teacher and you happen to be white, you will be laid off before teachers teachers of color regardless of what your seniority happens to be.
Now the agreement was reached uh to end a two-week teacher strike last spring, and it says that starting the school year, quote, if uh a teacher who is a member of the population of a population underrepresented among licensed teachers in the site, the district shall excess the least senior teacher who is not a member of the underrepresented population.
So that's nice ways a nice way of saying if you're a minority and you have less seniority, you won't be fired, but the a teacher that happens to be white will be fired instead.
Horace Cooper, legal uh commentator, co-chair of the Black Leadership Network, uh Project 21.
He also wrote how Trump is making Black America great again, and and Freedom uh Foundation CEO Aaron With uh discusses this issue.
Uh Horace, great to have you back.
Let's start with you.
Um, how how do how can you in any other way describe this as anything other than just being pure outright institutional racism?
Uh this is racism 101.
This isn't uh backwards racism, it's not reverse racism.
This is racism.
When an institution like a school district picks who it's going to hire or who it's going to fire on the basis of its race, we know that that is called illegal discrimination.
Now, I imagine there might be a few woke people that were part of the negotiation that are going to play the Elizabeth Warren cards, and they're gonna pretend that they're a member of some un underserved or underrepresented Group.
Here's the reality.
Every American in the 21st century ought to be able to be presumed, they'll be evaluated based on their skill set, based on their talent, not on their race.
And there's been no finding by any court that there was systemic or intentional or any kind of racism on the part of the school district.
But I don't want to hear about we're uh uh addressing the past injustices.
No court has demonstrated that those injustices even exist.
Your take, let's get it, Aaron.
I I look at this and I'm thinking this this school district now is has likely set themselves up for what will be tens and tens, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars in payouts in lawsuits because it's so obviously discriminatory.
Now, let's assume for a minute that past discrimination has taken place.
Um why are you going to hold somebody that is not responsible for that discrimination and discriminate against them to end discrimination?
Yeah, you're exactly right, Sean.
I mean, if there's past discrimination, I don't know if I could even say that again, but go ahead.
Well, yeah, you got if there's past discrimination, go back to the individual and settle that outside of this.
Don't punish people your everyday teachers today that are out there trying to educate our kid for something that may or may not have happened in the past.
Horace mentioned it, uh I and I'm glad to realize I'm not crazy for thinking that we should be hiring and firing teachers who can best educate our kids.
I mean, I think that's the way most parents think, but that's not what that's not the teachers' union's agenda.
They want teachers in the classrooms that will one pay union dues and two push their radical political agenda to indoctrinate our kids.
Uh but I think the the saving grace of this is so many parents across the country are taking their kids out of public schools and two voting, and also so many teachers across America are choosing to leave their unions because of this crazy radical agenda that they have.
Well, I mean, that's the other thing.
Then it's not like schools are doing the best job anyway.
And so, Horace, I go back to you.
If you're a teacher and they have to lay off teachers, now apparently there's a declining population, uh apparently they have misappropriated funds in the past.
Uh apparently they don't have the funding to keep the current teacher level there, which means that this is going to be a reality for people.
They've adopted this rule, now it's going to be applied, and then there are going to be the lawsuits predictably that follow on the other side of it.
Where do you see that going?
So this feeds on itself.
This illegal policy is very likely to put this school district in legal jeopardy.
It's going to require massive payout, and if you're already running short of funds, this is an absolutely wrong thing to do.
The reason though that I mentioned that there's been no court finding under the Constitution, there's been no court finding of discrimination.
Under the Constitution, the only time that you can have sort of a remedy where a specific race is given preference or another one is disfavored, is when you go to a court and find out that a specific place at a specific time in a specific manner has engaged in racist behavior.
There has been no such claim made, no such evidence presented.
And by the way, if there was an individual that was responsible personally for racist behavior, they should be punished.
I'm with you.
I I find racist people repugnant, like most Americans.
Yeah.
But there has been no effort to do that.
There is this systemic.
Oh, it's the racism that doesn't require bigots, the racism that doesn't require an actor.
And we're going to crush an already uh declining budget with this new liability.
The schools aren't teaching, the kids are graduating without being able to read their degree, and then you're going to take even what little resources are left and waste on this type of nonsense.
It's illegal, it's unconstitutional, and it's against the whole American system of equality.
Yeah, I I just can't understand.
You know, for Americans to rightly stand up against racism is one thing.
Uh to believe that all human beings were created by God and a belief in natural law, and as such, we're all endowed by our creator.
Uh that that transcends any racist tendencies that anybody might have, and we all find such people ignorant.
But that's Not the vast majority of the American people, Aaron, at all in any way, shape, matter, or form.
Well, I think uh your everyday parents listening and your everyday uh voters listening understand exactly what this is, which is racism from the left.
I mean, those these are the guys that are got out there now, the teachers' unions and the rest of the radical left that are pushing racism uh down everybody's throats.
Um this is the inherent problem with teachers' unions though.
Um they've elected school board officials that uh that by funding their campaigns, they've put them into office, and then this is their return on investment.
They've sat down opposite the school board members that they've put into office, and then they're pushing their radical political agenda in there.
I think that we'll continue to see parents though vote for school board officials that represent the best interests of their kids and not the teachers' unions candidates that only represent the left.
I think that we've already seen signs of that across the country, across school boards, even in uh liberal places like San Francisco.
And I think we're gonna see it continue to play out in November, especially as the teachers' unions continue to do crazy stuff like this.
And uh Horace is right.
The the sharks are circling on this when it comes to litigation.
There are several groups, including my own, um, that are looking at how do we how do we go about uh bringing a lawsuit against these uh against the uh school board because teachers shouldn't be treated this way.
They go my wife's a public school teacher, they go to school to teach kids.
They don't care about whether they're black, white, whatever whatever their skin color is, they care about teaching kids reading, writing, and math.
Uh so the school the teachers' unions here does not represent uh uh teachers across America.
Well, I appreciate you both being with us.
Aaron, thank you, and Horace, thank you.
Congrat uh, we appreciate both of you as always being on the program, and we hope you'll check in often and we'll follow the stories as as far as it goes and the predictable lawsuit on the other side of this, probably many lawsuits.
Thank you guys for uh checking in.
Thank you.
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Glenn San Diego, Kogo Radio.
What's up, Glenn?
How are you?
Hi, Sean.
Uh fellow martial artists here.
Uh, yes, sir.
Well, what arts you what are you practice?
What do you train?
Uh I've been practicing since 1972.
Uh Taekwondo and Hapkido.
Let me tell you something.
Guys that do Taekwondo are very impressive.
I bet your kicking is pretty superb.
Uh yeah, I I it it was okay at one time.
Uh you're getting older so it doesn't go up as high as it used to.
Is that what you're saying?
Meaning your leg?
Uh I got to do a little bit more stretching.
Don't we all?
Anyway, ooh, what's on your mind today?
Well, I wanted to kind of uh like the lady before that was just on like two, three cars before, uh, kind of raise alarm about this 87,000 IRS agents.
Well, let's just call them federal agents.
There that's kind of a ruse to uh bypass what's called a positive act of 1878, which says the military is not allowed to get into uh civilian uprisings.
So normally you wouldn't call in the National Guard, but uh National Guards are made out of regular average people, so the government not going to be a good thing.
You're specifically talking about the job posting that called for IRS agents to be willing to be armed and and be willing to shoot people, right?
Right.
Um let me give you an example here.
If you had uh uh an issue with IRS, you owe them $10,000.
You know what they would do?
They would hit enter on their on their computer and seize your bank account.
If it was something greater than that, then they would call the sheriff to to uh get you out of your house.
So what are they gonna do that's so heinous that they need to have eighty seven thousand?
I'll give you an example.
You have seventeen, they could fill seventeen limits class aircraft carriers full of IRS agents.
So I'm just saying the IRS would just be their day job.
Look, I've I have some experience with this.
What I have found, and and I I don't deal with the IRS.
I have two I have one accountant firm do my taxes, another accountant firm do it independently, and then I have my lawyers go over both filings before I actually file.
And that's how I do it.
Now and and I've had the IRS ask, you know, a million questions or make accusations.
The thing about the IRS is you have to prove your innocence.
And we're always able to do that because we always pay our taxes, and it just but the amount of money that it takes to pay the accountants, they're wonderful people, but they cost a lot of money, and the amount of money you pay your lawyers, that that also costs a lot of money.
Now, granted, at this point in my life, there was a point in my life I'd never would have been able to afford this.
At this point in my life I can afford it, but it is just beyond a nuisance.
It's it's outright harassment at some level.
Right.
But the challenge is what are they gonna, you know, that's but they can do that all on the other side of the computer.
They don't need to show up in person with an automatic weapon.
So what are we doing?
Yeah, well, that's that that's a good point.
I don't think that's part of the job description, and the fact that we read that, a lot of people are like, what?
Why why is that part of that job description?
Yeah, it's a little challenging.
Let me give you one other thing if if you have a second here.
Uh, you know, in uh basic training, uh, you know, they would, you know, in the old military, I don't know if they do it anymore, but uh, you know, they they would line everybody up and they would take the biggest, meanest, ugliest person and and just drop them on his knees so that everybody else would stay in line.
Well, I think that's what they're trying to do with Trump.
He's he's the biggest guy that they can find, and they're trying to make an example out of him so everybody else will stay in line.
So, look, we can take out a president, we can take out a billionaire, just guess what we can do to you.
Well, I mean look, they would they'd love to go after high profile people and get in public fights with people because then it intimidates other people into thinking that uh oh man, they're gonna come after me.
Look, I have a general rule as it relates to taxes in the a and the IRS.
And the general rule is to pay your taxes.
There's no way around it.
If if you don't if you want to put your head on the pillow at night and have peace, that these people are gonna be banging on your door and harassing you.
The best antidote is to follow the law.
And I tell this to to prominent public conservatives all the time because I'm like, if you don't pay your taxes, you're opening yourself up, and they they will file and they will check your return.
And if you didn't pay, you're gonna be in a lot more trouble than the average person if you're a public person.
And so my advice to everybody is pay your taxes.
I'll get a number of calls every year about well, this is really a legitimate deduction, but they might challenge it.
What do you want to do?
That's the call I get, and as a courtesy from my accountants for my lawyers, whatever.
And my answer is always the same.
Just pay it.
Just pay it.
I don't need the money.
It's not that important.
Because and and it may sound like I'm capitulating.
I'm not, I I I need to focus on my work.
I just don't need to be engaged in a battle that's gonna consume half my day every day.
And And that's what they can make life a living hell for people.
I know that because I've I've seen it happen more times than I care to even mention.
Anyway, appreciate the call, my friend.
Pay your taxes and elect people that will lower taxes that'll make it easier for you.
Interestingly, under the Trump administration, I ended up paying more taxes because high-tax states like New York had the advantage of having their state and local tax deduction, the salt deduction, which he limited to $10,000.
It ended up costing me more money in spite of the Trump tax cuts because he's treating every state fairly.
In other words, states that elect big tax and spend liberals should not be rewarded with tax deductions for states that elect fiscally responsible uh officials.
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So this conclusion of this study of Alec Baldwin and that there's no way that his claim that he never pulled the trigger is kind of blown back up in his face.
I said at the time, this interview that he did with I think it wasn't a George Stephanopoulos Linda.
I'm pretty sure it was.
Yes, it was.
I said it would come back to bite him in the ass.
And it has.
Because he claimed over and over.
Oh, I never, I never followed, I never fired the trigger.
I never fired the trigger.
Uh well, apparently there's no way that gun's going off without firing the trigger.
That's the conclusion that has been made.
And if you remember at the time, he said every single person on the set of this movie they were making called Rust knows who's to blame for Helena Hutchins' death.
And then he said the only question to ask is, you know, who put a live round of my gun.
The other question is if it's been deemed impossible, your story about pulling the trigger, doesn't that make you culpable?
And don't you have a lot more questions to answer?
Listen to this interview.
Everybody's waiting for a sheriff's report.
The DA is not bound by that report.
The DA can bring charges or not bring charges regardless of what the report says.
But everyone must wait for that report.
So while we wait, ad nauseum for that report.
And I have a lot of information about that, which we're going to postpone until the report comes out.
But uh, while we're waiting for that, I know that every single person on the set of the film knows what happened.
And the people that are talking loudest about what happened or speculating about what happened, we're not on the set of the film, the LA Times, the Hollywood Reporter.
They talk on and on and on about what if this and what if that have dined out on this.
And uh uh the thing that they have in common is nobody was there.
And everybody who was there, they know exactly what happened.
They know exactly who's to blame, blah, blah, blah.
You're familiar with what fanning a gun is.
Have you heard of that phrase, fanning a gun?
Yes, but explain.
So if you pull the hammer back and you don't lock the hammer, if you pull the hammer back pretty far, in old Western movies, you'd see someone fan the hammer of the gun.
The hammer didn't lock.
You pulled it back to an extent where it would fire the bullet without you pulling the trigger, without you locking the hammer.
The man who's the principal safety officer on the set of the film declared that the gun was safe when he handed it to me.
The person who was the principal safety officer of the film declared in front of the entire assemblage, this is a cold gun.
Now, why did he say that?
If he didn't know, if he hadn't checked.
The point is, all of us were told that everything was cool and you can relax, and we're working with a gun that's safe to rehearse with.
But he explained it to me effectively, that's exactly what can happen if you pull a hammer back and let it go.
If there's a live round.
See, there's only one question to ask here.
Who put a live round in the gun?
That's it.
There is no other question to ask.
But of course, Alec Baldwin is a Hollywood liberal.
I'm sure that he will get away with whatever spin that he happens to put out there.
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Mike is in Alaska, the great state of Alaska.
We're watching two big primaries tonight on Hannity Nine Eastern.
One is Alaska, Kelly Chewbacca against Lisa Murkowski, and also Liz Cheney's race out in Wyoming.
Uh, but anyway, let's get to our phones.
Mike is in Alaska.
Hey Mike, how are you?
Glad you called.
Yeah, don't forget uh Nick Bagic is going to beat Sarah Palin.
Um I hope not.
I'd like to see Sarah Palin win myself.
I like Sarah Palin.
Yeah.
The reason I'm calling is because this whole situation with the That sounds like a pretty nasty comment against Sarah Palin.
I mean, why don't you like her?
I I don't have time to go into it.
Uh it's all about governance and when she was governor and what she did, she didn't do.
But what I really wanted to talk about was the Fed the uh attack on the president.
You know, it's there there's been a lot of people, and there was a lady yesterday you talked to that were were talking about how that the feds can turn around.
The federal agents could have turned around and said we're not going to do this.
We had 30 federal agents that went in there that went ahead and knowingly violated his his civil liberties.
I'm United States Air Force, retired.
When I was in Honduras, I had an o I had a uh colonel give us an unlawful order.
Under the UCMJ, I had a duty to re to to disobey that order, which I did.
He tried to get me and I fell under UCMJ and I was completely uh protected.
So the same thing to go the the feds, the FBI, DOJ, all those guys, they took the same they basically take the same vote that I did.
And they have uh a duty not to do this kind of stuff.
And so I mean I'm really you know, I it's we're we're I'm here in Alaska, we're geographically separated by a lot, but we still get the feds coming down on us, and it's scary.
It is very scary about what's going on.
Well, I think there's a lot of things scary that's going on, and I think you're absolutely right.
And I can tell you that if we don't get this right in this next election, which is why I'm supporting Sarah Palin and Kelly Chewbacca, because I think both of them would be real fighters and reformers and and people that are not going to Washington to be part of the swamp.
Um, and there's not going to be any perfect candidate, but I like both of them.
Um, you know, what goes on in Alaska tonight is going to be very interesting for the country to watch.
Um you're going to take the first step in determining whether Lisa Murkowski can survive uh the primary.
She, you know, obviously is not loved by Republicans around the country or Republicans in Alaska.
Uh and you know, she won in 2010 as a writing candidate after losing the GOP primary.
Uh so we expect she's gonna be in the top four in Tuesday's all party primary, and the contest includes nineteen candidates, including Murkowski, and Kelly Jubacca probably has the best chance of beating her in that final runoff.
You guys have a weird system up there of voting, you know that, right?
Yeah, well, and here but here's the thing, and it's been brought out multiple times.
When when Lisa last two times she won, he didn't even hit the 50% mark because last time she only hit 44%.
Kelly Shabaga is going to wax her.
I mean, uh you you drive around, I drive, I I live out here in Palmer in the in the valley.
You do not see a Murkowski sign anywhere.
In Anchorage, you feel see it few.
But it that but she is Kelly is Kelly has been actually Kelly has said she has circumvented the globe on flying all over the state of Alaska.
She's been to Barrow, she's been to Bethel, she's been to Southeast, she's been to Fairbanks, she's been to I mean, she's been everywhere.
And she gets good sized groups of people there that come listen to her.
She her message is straight on.
It's on the city.
But here's the problem.
You have a very strange system there.
This is why Murkowski won in 2010 as a writing candidate.
Because, you know, you literally have an all-party primary that includes 19 candidates, including Murkowski and Kelly Chewbacca.
Um, and then they're gonna take the top four is my understanding, and then they'll have a runoff, correct?
Correct.
And so I think it's gonna be really interesting to see how that Kelly and then Kelly's.
Lisa may take her toys and run independently, which probably she did in 2010, right?
No, no, no.
Run as a well, I'm sorry, run as a writing candidate as she did in 2010.
No, she can't sh No, she couldn't.
Because if she if she if if Lisa is in the top four, which mo mo you know all indications are she's gonna be in the top four, then that's all and that's all she can do.
She can't run anything else.
She can't pull uh a Joe Miller again.
This is all or nothing for her.
And I think that's hope it's nothing is going to Oh, yeah, and it's going to be nothing.
I think that there's uh because you're gonna have all indications right now are looking like it's gonna be Kelly number one, Lisa number two, a uh probably a libertarian or uh uh an independent number three, and a Democrat in in number four.
And I think we're gonna I think uh Kelly is is going to win this and win this big.
And I don't know if she's gonna win first round, but she sure as heck will it she'll end up winning second round.
Very greatest worst case scenario, she'll win on third round.
Look, I'm I want to watch this closely.
I give a little more flexibility to Governor Palin.
Governor Palin, when she was thrust into the national spotlight when she was chosen as the VP candidate with John McCain, uh was so unfairly treated.
And I and I got to know her and her family at the time, and I just feel like they they just set out to destroy this woman.
And to her credit, um she she's she stood strong.
Um probably in retrospect, I would argue maybe she should have stayed it on as governor, but she had been through so much and it had such a toll, she paid a toll with her family, etc.
That I I think it was she paid a very high price for being a public figure.
And the fact that she's willing to get back in the arena and be a public figure once again, uh she's well liked, she's a fighter and uh in in her heart, and she's iconoclastic and she speaks her mind, and I kind of appreciate that about her.
And I think she'd do a good job for Alaska if she was a uh Congresswoman.
So it we're allowed to disagree on some issues.
Let's see what happens tonight, okay?
Can I can I get last word in?
Okay, go ahead.
Can I get last word in?
Okay, so if you want to know, okay, she as governor, she pushed for aces and a GIA, which went after the oil industry.
She went for 27% uh taxing uh tax on the oil industry when the Democrats only wanted 25.
She uh that that was that was just that's just part of her governance.
She when she was governor, she was not a fiscal conservative.
When she was a governor, she appointed Bill Walker to oil the industry.
When when she's a good one, I don't know her full record as governor.
Maybe everything you're saying is true.
I'm just telling you, I read people pretty well.
And she's a pretty she's a very gutsy, gutsy person.
And I think whatever maybe you know, I I don't think she was as sophisticated in the in conservative thought, ideology, philosophy, etc.
at the time.
Uh, but I think she has you know evolved into a very, very powerful and conservative political voice.
And you know, let's see what happens.
Um I think she would be a good congresswoman if she's not, if she gets elected and she's not in two years, call me back and tell me I'm a uh a jackass and then beat me up on the air, okay.
I I will.
I will.
Don't worry, you won't you won't be the first person to do that.
That you'd be like, you know, we'll get in line.
There's a ton of people that do that.
Anyway, appreciate it.
Thanks, Mike.
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Uh Brian is in South Dakota.
Brian, how are you?
Glad you called.
I'm doing good, Sean.
How are you doing?
I'm good, sir.
Hey, what's your dog?
What's your dog's name?
By the way, your dog your dog sounds like killer.
We should rename the dog killer.
What's your dog's name?
Dog's name's Max.
And what kind of dog is Maxie?
Max, a German Shepherd.
Max, I'm gonna rename Max.
Call him Killer.
Call him Killer.
We'll do that.
Max sounds like a killer to me.
But go ahead.
Yeah.
He's full of action.
Hey, I wanted to bring something to you and your listeners' attention.
Over here in the Black Hills, there's a lot of action going on for lithium.
And what I've discovered in the five miles below Custer, I don't know if you're familiar with the area, there's a foreign mining company that's posted 148,000 claims.
From Custer to Crazy Horse, another foreign companies posted about the same.
And from there to Deadwood up to uh Ma Reshmore, there's almost half a million claims posted right now.
Why would we why would we be allowing foreign countries to mine our natural resources?
Well, in my research, what I found was a couple of weeks ago, uh Biden did a executive presidential wartime act for to encourage the research on lithium and the extraction here in America and put seven billion on the table.
So from there, these guys have jumped at it.
A couple of them are brand new foreign companies, so they're they're they're subsidiaries of something else.
But it's all going, seems to be going real fast here, and nobody knows anything about it.
Any local agencies, even the state agencies that have checked with, don't know anything about the other thing.
I'll tell you what I'm gonna do.
I'm I'm taking notes.
I'm gonna ask your governor, Christy Nome about it.
And just like the the communist Chinese are buying up farmland and ranch land, uh, specifically near many strategic uh military bases we have.
Um, that sounds to me like something, a practice that needs to stop, and it sounds to me like the government needs to step in, and the government needs to give them their money back and buy back our natural um resources.
That's what it sounds like to me, but we'll look into it, I promise, okay.
Okay.
Well, also what I've learned is when you're mining in the national forest, there's no royalties for the government, and it's wide open for these guys.
I need to live need to well, I got you on the recession recovery act that was passed on Friday.
He gave the EPA a bunch of money to uh ad staff and to speed up the permit process for lithium mining in our area.
Oh, I believe it.
Well, well, I'm I'm gonna look very, very closely at all of what you're saying, and then we're gonna get in touch with uh Christine Gnome.
We have a good relationship with her.
She'll come on radio TV anytime we ask, and I'll find out from the governor herself what she might be able to do about it, okay?
Appreciate the call.
Music.
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