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So uh President Biden tonight will be addressing the nation uh about your pocketbooks, no, uh about uh, let's see, anything like how to stop school violence, protect kids in school, uh distancing himself from defund, dismantle, no bail laws.
No, none of that's gonna come up.
It's gonna be, oh, let's let's go for the second amendment.
Uh, the second amendment is not absolute, Joe Biden saying.
Uh, he wants to ban not only ARs, AKs, but also nine millimeter pistols.
Um, pretty unbelievable.
There is a simple, easy solution.
Americans are not going to give up their second amendment rights.
I pointed out many times on this program, even our own CDC.
They actually get one figure right.
They didn't do, they didn't do well on COVID.
But two and a half million American lives are saved every year because people have firearms, law abiding citizens have firearms.
And I ask all my liberal friends, what makes you think that any criminal is ever going to abide by any law that you pass?
Because the answer is they will not.
By their very nature, they are law breakers.
So it will take away the rights of law-abiding citizens to protect themselves.
And then my next question.
What are you going to do when somebody breaks into your home in the dark of night and wants to kill you and your family and rob you blind?
Because I know what I'm gonna do.
I am going to confront and I'm going to try my very best to protect myself and my family.
And that's it.
That's that's how Americans protect themselves.
Uh the same exact protection that we offer Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, uh, all of the secretaries in the cabinet, uh, high-ranking officials in government, local government, state government, federal government, they all have security.
Hollywood stars, all the ones that are against people having the right to gun ownership, they all have the money to pay for security guards.
So uh the answer is don't we owe our children the exact same protection that all these people get?
I think that's very simple.
But one of the reasons that we see this dramatic increase in violence all over the country is because we have not taken this issue seriously.
And you know, I I keep scratching my head and I keep wondering if they really cared about kids that are dying.
Why do why isn't Joe Biden ever mentioned the name of one kid killed in Chicago since he's been vice president or the hundred years before that he was a senator?
He never once we now on my television show, those of you that watch Hannity, and I hope all of you watch.
Uh I scroll those names of those kids and those adults and the people that are shot every weekend and the people that are shot and killed.
And we come in every Monday.
We can, we don't always, but sometimes we do.
We'll give you the roundup, the statistics.
But because of no bail laws, because of defunding the police, because of dismantling The police, uh, we now find ourselves with the total number of children killed going up every single year.
Uh, you know, for example, when Donald Trump was president, number was still too high, but it's 25% higher under Joe Biden.
About 3.3 deaths a day when Donald Trump was president.
Now it's 4.4 children dying from gun violence every day.
Now are we doing now?
We do know how to stop gun violence in big cities because there's a guy by the name of Rudy Giuliani that did it in New York.
We were approaching nearly 3,000 murders a year in New York City.
He gets elected mayor, near impossibility for a Republican, and he then instituted what's called stop and frisk.
They identified where the areas are where the most violence was occurring, and they targeted those areas and they targeted people with the potential if they if they thought they would randomly frisk people.
Now, you might have civil liberties issues with that.
Put that aside.
But the number went down to about 300 murders a year in New York City, thanks to Rudy Giuliani's policies.
And they were Mayor Bloomberg kept them in place.
Anyway, joining us is Jimmy Graham, he's a veteran Navy SEAL, former protective officer for the CIA's elite global response staff.
And before we get to him, I want to point out that uh Corinne Jean-Pierre, the new White House communications director, is saying hardening schools is not something Biden believes in.
Anyway, listen to what she said.
And uh when it comes to uh when it comes to schools, and and I don't know what he said specifically about about schools.
I know there's been uh conversation about hardening schools.
That is not something that he believes in.
He believes that we should be able to give uh teachers the resources to be able to do the job uh that they're meant to do at schools.
Anyway, Jimmy Graham, uh veteran Navy SEAL former protective uh officer for the CIA's elite global response staff.
Look, there's nobody that I know that can defend or would defend what happened in Uvalde.
That to me, though, is an anomaly.
Because I I have so many law enforcement friends, I have so many family members that were involved in law enforcement, that that every single person I know that goes into law enforcement, they want to serve, and they know that day may come where they gotta rush in, put their lives on the line, like for example, 9-11, 2001, risk their lives, they do it willingly, and they train for it, and and what we saw, I believe, in Texas was the anomaly.
And it's unforgivable.
I can't understand it.
Nobody can understand it, but that doesn't mean we say, oh, well, what good are armed guards going to do?
They're gonna do a lot of good in terms of prevention, in my view.
Your thoughts.
That's right, Sean.
You'd mentioned limiting entryways.
You know, that's got to be a culture thing where we're gonna limit the entryways, so there's only a couple places to defend from from externally.
The other thing is I've heard recently, you know, that's not what teachers signed up for is to protect.
Um none of us signed up for this.
This is horrible.
This is consequential consequences of decisions we've made coming to fruition, and I think it's just the beginning of that.
So I think that Runhide Fight was a good place to start, but it was lacking.
We say it this way: defend.
It's D E F E N D. It's defense, evacuate, fortify, emergency medical aid, notify others in your immediate area and dial 911.
It doesn't mean they have to do all of that, but they must do some.
So if a teacher says, I don't want to call 911, I'm saying, what are you willing to do?
So I think there needs to be a change.
Being a teacher has changed, and that's unfortunate, but that's the truth.
All right.
So let me ask you, because you you have this company, you're a CEO of a company called Abel Shepherd, and you provide active shooter response and violent encounter training for schools, churches, companies, and responsible citizens.
So obviously there are uh, for example, I know a friend of mine's a pastor, and his church, unbeknownst to any congregant, is a fortress.
They have armed guards all over that church every Sunday.
They have more cameras than you could shake a stick at.
Nobody knows they have all those cameras.
And they have people monitoring everybody that goes to Sunday worship, etc.
They monitor everybody to keep everybody safe and Secure.
And if something, God forbid, ever happened, and I would argue churches like schools or targets, uh, they're prepared.
But every school is not prepared in the country, and that's a big problem to me.
That's correct.
And I think, you know, Abel Shepherd, I'd define that word.
What it means to me is the word shepherd means to protect, to teach, and to lead.
So it's not just protect.
And I understand the sheepdog mentality, but that just says protect.
But to teach them to lead, I think that is the way forward.
I think somewhere along the way, we were convinced somehow that we don't need each other anymore.
You know, our motto is take care of one another.
That's it.
Just take care of one another.
Well, what if things are good and teach them and lead them?
What if things are bad to protect them?
But it means that is my job.
And when we see many, many churches, schools, civic groups, businesses that take on that role, you see a degree of dignity that reminds them it's on us.
2020 reminded us of that because we called 911 and nobody showed up.
Because of what we don't police officers, they're understaffed.
But there's no shortage of men, I say, or is there?
You know, that's where communities need to come together and say, hey, I got you, you got me.
Let's get back to living our lives.
And it's not a life of fear, it's the way it was designed to be.
Why do people think that taking away guns from law-abiding citizens is logical in some way?
Uh I've had a life uh I my mom was a prison guard.
My dad worked in family corp probation.
My mom had a loaded revolver next to her bed uh without a safe all my years growing up, and at a very young age, my mother and father took me to a range and taught me gun safety.
Anyway, so I go, I take my first lesson, and the guy says, Do you remember everything that I've just told you about gun safety?
And I say, Yes, sir.
And he goes, Great.
When you come back next week, if you still remember it, and you can tell me you remember it all, then I'll let you fire the weapon.
And I went back and I ended up going there, training there, learning, and I actually at the time became a pistol marksman at a pretty early age.
Yeah, I think people are afraid of things they don't understand.
So when we, you know, it's very common for me, we do this you know, every day but Sunday, where this is exactly what we're doing.
We're adding value to people in this arena, meaning that it's very common to have people that have never fired a firearm, and then you show them that this is a tool, this is a responsibility, it's not a hobby, this is a capability, and with that capability comes a responsibility, and you show them how it works.
We say this is what's worked since the beginning of time.
This is as a principle and protective work.
To get to them, you have to go through me.
And then you teach a, you know, a uh a soccer mom who's never fired a pistol before that that capability exists in her to say to get to my children, you have to go through me.
Their responsibility to do it, you show them how to do it, and they leave ten foot tall.
That's a right.
That's an inalienable right to protect my children.
Um, and you know, I heard you talking on the on the on the setup.
To disarm me would be a disservice to this country.
I could people want me armed.
I've I've talked to many, many people every day that I've talked to them, I've been legally armed, and I talked to them, and they say, really, that you've been armed that whole time.
Yes, I have, because I am that person that would pull you, you know, pull you out of the snow here in Colorado, I would stop and see what's going on with your car, and if I saw somebody hurting you, I would figure out what's going on and try to help you.
You know, to me, it's very simple.
If politicians are protected with our tax dollars, and I want to go on record saying I support that.
I think it's the right thing to do.
We've got to protect all our elected officials.
I don't care whether you're a Democrat, Republican, conservative, liberal, doesn't matter, uh, because they're targets.
We should protect them.
We can protect them.
We have the means to protect them.
But if we're going to protect them, we need to protect our children as well.
And certainly the the policies of no bail and and dismantle and defund the police have not helped.
All it has done is exacerbated violence in usually big cities run by liberal Democrats for decades, and blue states run by liberal Democrats for decades.
Uh interestingly, they have the toughest gun laws, and they have the most uh the highest volume of shootings and murders and killings with guns that are illegal in their cities and states.
Yeah, I think you know that's it's important for people to know you must be able to defend yourself.
You must we're we're heading into some challenging times.
Everybody that I talk to understands that.
It's not like we're like, well, here in five years it's gonna be great.
I think it's gonna be worse uh because of these consequences that are catching up to us.
With everything you just mentioned, plus COVID and the social problems we've instituted, um, this is going to come back around and we're gonna have to live the consequences.
And you must be able to defend yourself, and now there's a move to disarm responsible people from doing that, and that's scary, that's dangerous.
All right, quick break more with Jimmy Graham, uh veteran Navy SEAL, former protective officer for the CIA's Elite Global Response Staff, now the CEO of Abel Shepherd.
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All right, we continue with Jimmy Graham, former Navy SEAL veteran Navy SEAL and former protective officer for the CIA's Elite Global Response Staff.
He's now the CEO of his own company.
He helps schools protect the kids that are in school, helps churches, big institutions, workplaces.
The company is called Abel Shepherd.
People ask me a lot, what Hannity, you have a gun collection, you talk about it a lot.
What should I get?
What kind of gun should I get?
I said, Well, any gun you're willing to get safety and training in the use of.
That's my first answer.
And then I'll give them some suggestions.
Um, you know, Henry Repeating Arms happens to be an advertiser on the show.
I love their their firearms.
They're amazing.
It's an amazing company.
Every single weapon I've gotten from them is accurate right out of the box.
There's also another company, if you want a non-lethal alternative that I'm a fan of, and I've purchased a number of them.
I give them away as gifts to friends that that are afraid of firearms.
It's called Burner B Y R N A, if people want to look it up.
And it shoots projectiles of two pepper sprays and tear gas, although in New York you can't have the tear gas part because New York's laws.
Uh, so of course, I'm not allowed to have the the good projectile, but there are non-lethal alternatives.
Would you recommend them?
Maybe for teachers.
Yeah, it depends on what the threat is.
Obviously, you know, when we do reality-based training, which is by the way, how professional protectors train.
So we're talking SEAL teams a little bit.
We're just talking CIA protective officer in Secret Service.
That's exactly what they do.
So there's a good place to start.
But what is the threat that you're seeing coming in the door?
If you're restricted from having firearms, then I would say yes.
Get something that's going to enhance your capability.
But what we fall back on consistently here is show me.
You can have all the guns in the world.
If you can't show me a capability with any of them, I think you wasted a lot of money.
So, like you said, invest in yourself, get the training.
It's what responsible people do.
And then be able to replicate a standard based on the threat that you perceive.
Like the data is out there and showing you, you know, what might walk into a classroom or a church or uh or whatever.
And if it does, you need to provide a capability that could meet that threat or in fact beat it.
Jimmy Graham, former Navy SEAL CEO, Abel Shepherd.
Appreciate you being with us and all you do to keep our kids safe.
And thank you so much.
God bless.
Thank you.
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Joey, your president will be addressing the nation tonight about quote gun violence and his measures, of course.
Now he wants to ban 9 millimeters on top of everything else.
What do honest law-abiding people do?
What are you going to do?
What is your plan?
I have a plan.
I have a lot of plans.
I have contingency plans on top of contingency plans.
If something ever happened, for example, on my property, I take great care in where I go and where I'm going to be.
And I don't like to broadcast it because believe it or not, I know it's shocking, but there are people out there that really don't like me.
And over the well, I don't come on the air and talk about it, but I mean, over the years, we've dealt with a number of these instances, if you will.
So, but every American has a right to be safe.
You see these images of older women, you know, 80 years old walking in the street, and some jackass just comes up and punches them in the face.
What, for fun?
There's something fun about that.
Or they just rip their pocketbook away from them.
You know, now we have people walking in the stores.
As long as you don't steal a thousand bucks worth of stuff, you're okay.
Yeah, that's that's gonna keep a lot of people working and a lot of businesses open.
We allow that to continue to happen.
Um, anyway, so Joe Biden is not gonna deal with inflation tonight.
He's not gonna deal with the borders tonight.
He's not gonna deal with the failed economy, high gas prices.
No, he's gonna talk about getting rid of nine millimeters and you know, act like he cares.
And I go back to the fact in the last three years, we lost nearly 5,000 kids, and he didn't he he didn't utter a word.
Why didn't Joe Biden talk about all of those kids killed?
A lot of them on under his watch, but paying attention.
And why didn't he, when he was vice president, ever mention the name of a single kid killed in Obama's hometown of Chicago?
They barely, both of them barely ever mentioned the violence in Chicago.
Obama did a few times.
But I can't remember, we looked hard.
We didn't find one instance where vice president Joe Biden mentioned the name of single child that was killed in Obama's hometown of Chicago.
Anyway, but then this is a guy who forgot the name of his own held in human services secretary, Javier uh Bacera.
Listen.
Now uh you I'm gonna hand it over to uh Secretary Mr. Secretary, I'm gonna have you speak now.
And your remarks, and then we're gonna hand it over uh to uh to Samara to my behavior.
So Samara.
So this uh no, uh it's uh Bessera Joe.
It's not that hard.
You can practice.
Try go home if you really try hard.
I think you can probably get it on the 50th attempt.
Um anyway, then Joe Biden talked about nine millimeters.
I own a number of nine millimeters.
Uh it is really not that much different than a 38.
Really isn't.
Also have a Glock 40, uh, which is a little more powerful.
Uh Anyway, he says, we um we literally we're not gonna be able to the second amendment he says is not absolute.
I'm like, yeah, the right of the people to keep and to bear arms shall not be infringed.
Well, they didn't allow cannons when they did the Constitution.
You're right, except um they didn't disallow them, Joe.
There were no gun laws until what?
The the 1930s.
Not one restriction at all, whatsoever.
Uh who was it?
Jonathan Turley, the first person to point that fact out.
Here's Joe Biden on the second amendment not being absolute.
We know certain ones will have significant impact and have no negative impact on the second amendment.
Second amendment's not absolute.
When it was passed, you couldn't own a you couldn't own a cannon.
You couldn't own certain kinds of weapons.
It's just always been limitations.
But guess what?
These actions we've taken before, they saved lives.
They can do it again.
Now, the first thing is there's no demonstrable difference when they went with the first assault weapons ban, and they don't even know the difference between quote what they identify or name or call an assault weapon and other weapons that are out there.
And again, criminals by their very nature don't obey laws.
They'll find ways to circumvent them.
The only people that will be disarmed or law abiding citizens that we will be left defenseless.
And and when they call 911, well, if they live in one of those cities that defunded and dismantled the police, or one of those cities that lets people out in a revolving door because of Nobel, uh, not gonna work out well.
Uh my favorite though is Joey saying, Oh, we're not gonna be able to click a switch and lower gas and food prices.
No, Joe, it's gonna take a lot of time to fix the damage you cause.
You're right.
You're half right on this one.
Listen.
There's a lot going on uh right now, but the idea we're gonna be able to s you know, click a switch, bring down the cost of gasoline is not likely in their term, nor is it with regard to food.
Unbelievable.
All right, Joy is in Florida.
Joy, how are you?
Welcome to the Sean Hannity show.
Glad you called.
Thanks so much for your time today.
Um I just wanted to opine on the whole herd and depth thing, and um I felt stupid following it.
I'm an older woman, and I thought, why in the world am I interested in this?
And I figured it out.
Um I had heard Amber talk about hitting him and saying, I didn't punch you, I just slapped you.
And I So she says she does she actually said, I want to get it right because this is important.
I didn't punch you, I just hit you.
I'm like, Well, what if Johnny Depp said, I didn't punch you, I just hit you.
You absolutely nailed what I thought, and I thought, how many people today are in a situation where somebody's saying, Okay, I didn't I didn't punch you, I just hit you.
I didn't I didn't push you, I just nudged you.
I didn't I didn't pull your hair.
I I just grabbed it.
Um and I thought, my God, if it were a man saying it, there would be hell today, and everybody would be wearing vagina hats and walking around and protesting.
But because it was a woman, by the way, I forgot all about those hats and that that march.
I forgot all about them.
Go ahead.
And and that that really, really bothered me because I thought it was such a disservice to all the people who suffer in silence from abuse.
Um there are people that are real victims of abuse.
What you're saying is deep and it is profound.
And and the interesting thing that also struck me is that when he she complained, and you keep walking away from me and going from room to room to room.
That sounds like a guy that's trying to de-escalate a bad situation.
And but it but it's worse.
She talked about um him shoving a whiskey bottle into her vagina so hard that it hurt her pubic bone.
And she was worried because there was broken glass all over, and she worried was it one of the broken glass whiskey bottles that he was shoving into her vagina and raping her with.
And I thought, you know, he never went to the doctor for that.
He never went to be checked.
And there are people out there who actually have been raped.
And one of them is my very disabled daughter.
Um so sorry to hear that.
That's the worst.
Yep.
That to me is pure evil.
Well, and I don't exactly know where when I know where.
Um we took her in for just a regular gynecological checkup.
And her gynecologist that told me she she's no longer intact.
And I said, okay, could she have fallen?
Could she have this?
Could she have that?
And and she said no.
She was penetrated.
And I thought about the times that I dropped her off at an adult day training place so I could go to my job teaching students like her.
And one day she ran out the back door and ran to my car before I left.
And I I feel with the guilt that I feel about that.
But I think what about what about the people like her?
And not just women, but men who are raped as well.
And here you have a person who is creating this story and making it as fallacious and violent as she possibly can.
If it was a broken glass, huge disservice to everybody else.
We would have known.
She would have known.
And and let's take her at her word for a second here.
And and again, all the I believers, I believe that allegations need to be taken seriously.
The allegations against uh Justice Kavanaugh were taken seriously.
Republicans did not mess that up.
The stories fell apart, especially the they lined up every other weekend and they gave the girls punch and then they light up in the hall and they'd take turns raping these girls.
And uh if that would have had happened, one of those girls would have told somebody at some point.
But if you if you take her at her word here, at some point you you you have to ask yourself, and and I forget, I think it was Tammy Brewster brought it up last night.
Why would you ever stay?
Now I understand the Stockholm syndrome.
I understand that people have various conditions that that I don't fully comprehend because I'm not a medical doctor and I'm not a psychiatrist, I'm not a shrink, I don't know, and I have no idea why people would allow themselves to be treated badly.
I have a saying you teach people how to treat you in life.
In other words, if people do not speak to you the proper way, you you say, excuse me, I will not be spoken to that way.
Excuse me, get your hands off me.
Excuse me, get that finger out of my face, or I'm gonna break it in two seconds.
And and I'm I I'm more outspoken for me, it comes naturally.
I understand for other people it does not, but we have to train our kids to to be able to fight off evil.
What you're describing happened to your daughter is an evil that she likely won't get over for the rest of her life.
I know people that this has happened to.
And sure, they they they move on, but the damage, the the post-traumatic stress is very real for them.
And it often, you know, manifests itself in in ways that you can't even begin to think of.
Intimacy issues, etc.
I can go into a whole list of things.
That evil shouldn't happen.
And we really, in my mind, s we've got to teach our young kids how to be smart, be aware of their environment.
Don't go to places where you know there's going to be trouble.
As my parents used to say, nothing good usually happens after midnight, although that they let me at twelve work till two in the morning, so I'm not sure if uh if if if that applied to my case, but in all seriousness, we've got to protect these kids.
And then when we catch these people, we need to put them away forever.
You rape an innocent person, you should forfeit your life of freedom forever.
End of sentence.
And now with DNA testing, we can determine very easily whether or not this person's guilty or not guilty, at least in a lot of the cases, not every case, but in a lot of the cases we can.
Um in her case, because she is so um cognitively impaired, uh she would have no understanding of it.
She could she could never testify uh about it.
She doesn't know what it is.
Um but but I think that court case shows us that we need to really do a little bit more work and and protecting the innocents that are out there and looking at these people and saying These are two to me, pathetic, very dark people, and I'm kind of sick of talking about them and giving them any more attention on this.
I found the whole thing so distasteful on every level.
I don't know.
I wasn't in the courtroom.
I didn't hear all the testimony.
What I did hear, what I did see, you know, made me want to vomit.
If you find yourself in a situation, I can say this, where things are spiraling down in a very dark direction.
My humble advice is get the hell out of that situation.
And I mean for good.
Now, if you think that therapy, you think reconciliation is possible, I'm all in favor of forgiveness.
You can forgive people, not be friends with the people.
You can.
You forgive them, but that doesn't mean you have to stay with them.
And if people sh have violent tendencies, you know, I always tell people when they say that a boyfriend or a girlfriend has a bad temper, I said, that's a bad sign.
That is not a good sign.
Anyway, Joy, appreciate it.
800-941 Shauna's on number if you want to be a part of the program.
Um, I just feel when you hear these horror stories, and I know people that have lived through the those horror stories, real life.
It is the damage is so deep.
And uh it takes a lifetime, if possible, to heal.
And in many cases, people won't ever fully heal.
The scars are there forever.
We'll continue.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
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