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June 3, 2022 - Sean Hannity Show
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The Failing Biden Economy - June 2nd, Hour 2
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Well, Janet Yellen is now finally acknowledging that which we knew from the very beginning that uh she was wrong about the path inflation would take, that it's not transitory, which is what they were telling us for months and months and months and months and months.
Uh, it's far worse than transitory, and it's getting worse every day, just like gas prices keep setting new records every day, just like everything you buy in every store you go to is costing more every single solitary day.
And finally, Janet Yellen is has woken up to the fact that, well, uh because I was wrong about inflation.
Listen.
As I mentioned, there have been unanticipated and large shocks to the economy that have boosted uh energy and food prices and um supply bottlenecks that have affected our economy badly, that I didn't at the time didn't fully understand.
The biggest shock, of course, is Joe Biden uh abandoning energy independence, which he inherited from Donald Trump and America as a net exporter of energy, but Biden is just scratching his cognitively deficient brain every day.
He's rattled by his low poll numbers, and he's frustrated with AIDS having to walk back every dumb thing he says.
And you know what?
America is getting tired of the whiner in chief.
They want a winner in chief, and they're tired of living this way.
But they have a plan.
They're gonna make the month of June the month to deal with inflation.
We're gonna deal with inflation.
Okay, what are you going to do?
Because the answer is nothing.
We know that because Joe even said it himself.
Well, we're not going to be able to click a switch and lower gas and food prices.
Here's what he said.
There's a lot going on uh right now, but the idea we're gonna be able to s you know, click switch, bring down the cost of gasoline is not likely in their term, nor is it with regard to food.
All right, anyway, joining us now, Austin Goolsby, professor at Chicago's Booth School of Economics, former chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors for the Obama administration, David Bonson, founder, managing partner of the Bonson Group, author of There's No Free Lunch, 250 Economic Truths, uh, both here to discuss the economy.
You know, I'll say this, Austin.
Even Lawrence Summers, even your former colleagues, guys that that I'm sure you're still friends with and respect, they have been more right on the economy.
Not as right as I've been, but they've been more right on the economy than anybody working for Joe Biden.
So much of this is rooted in Joe giving in to the climate alarmist religious cult and abandoning energy independence.
That has contributed greatly to the inflation uh and and everything in between, on top of the stimulus money that he shouldn't have spent, which overheated the economy.
Do you agree with Lawrence Summers?
Do you blame Joe Biden?
And and What would you do to fix this mess that he created?
Well, first of all, Sean, thank you for having me back.
I hate when you're nice to me.
I really you know what you ruined the whole vibe of the you gave up carbs.
I you got to get off the caffeine.
You you got yourself worked up and and your doctor says caffeine makes you nervous.
Well, hang on a second.
Wait, you know why I marked up?
Because I've lived this way early in my adult life.
It wasn't just one or two years.
It was a lot of years of my life.
I struggled to pay my rent.
Now we have two thirds of of the American people live in paycheck to paycheck.
First time home buyers, forget it.
It's over.
They're not going to be able to afford the home because of higher interest rates.
Uh home building is coming to a screeching halt.
Now we're talking about running out of diesel and and gasoline over the summer and rolling brownouts around the country.
So if I'm pissed off or I sound pissed off, I am pissed off because all of this was preventable, Austin.
When you look at the slowdown in housing, that's coming because you've been arguing that the Fed needs to raise interest rates to demand.
No, if you have not done that.
No, I've been arguing to go back to energy independence and do that as expeditiously as possible.
You recognize that oil is a rural commodity.
So that the price of oil is determined not by just what happens in the United States.
It's determined by the supply and the demand worldwide.
So Professor, let me stop you here.
You're an economics professor.
Supply and demand crisscross, correct me, Professor, if I'm wrong, and they that that dictates the price.
When Joe Biden gave in to the radical new Green Deal, climate alarmist cult, and artificially reduced the world supply of oil and gas and became reliant once again on other countries by reducing the world supply, even if even if demand remains constant, the price increases.
Does it not, Professor, I deserve an A plus.
Totally mixed up.
And when you talk about this the last time, I went and looked it up.
Under Donald Trump, one third of our consumption of oil came from imports.
Even when we were net independent, we were importing one third of what we consumed.
He was not importing oil from Iran, Professor.
The production of oil in the United States last year was the second highest in history.
And this year is going to be a good idea.
That was because it was under Donald Trump's policies that he killed.
Let me bring in Mr. Bonsum.
Dave, your thoughts.
Who's right?
Me or the professor.
Well, look, uh Austin is completely wrong on this, but he knows where he's wrong.
The demand, the daily consumption has not gone up.
It is the same as it was right now in 2019 and 2018.
So how are prices 40% higher?
It is purely on the supply side.
And this is the thing that the left is going to have to answer for.
Is their answer because Saudi is not producing enough oil?
Is that what they want the environmentalists to hear?
That we will solve for oil prices by getting more dirty oil produced?
We want more Iranian oil, more Russian oil, more Libyan oil.
The answer to cleaner fossil production is Oklahoma and Texas.
And so the things that have happened with the ESG cultural movement, which I don't think Biden deserves all the blame for that, Austin.
I agree.
Those things were hurting the production side even when President Trump was here.
He was working to offset it, though.
They approved 29 different new projects, none of which have been approved under the Biden administration.
But the fact of the matter is this is a supply side problem on energy prices.
And the data is clear as could be.
Prices up 40 percent, demand up 0 percent.
You're talking about supply driven inflation.
You're talking about US.
Not in the world.
Russian production of oil plunged as they've been getting boycotted.
I know, but Austin Austin, the problem with that.
More this year, more U.S. oil production than in any year of the Trump administration.
So that's a driving factor.
It was Donald Trump that got us to energy independence.
We our capability went through the roof.
If we were to finish the Keystone XL pipeline, that's only one little w one fraction of the equation of the restrictions that that Joe put in place.
If we did that one thing, we'd have nearly a million barrels of oil, Canadian oil a day.
That was part of it.
Here's what you're missing, though, Austin is that you know, Joe wants to he I I can't snap my fingers, and and I can't, you know, click a switch and lower gas prices and lower inflation.
He actually could make a major, major dent in inflation if he went back to the Trump energy policies, took off restrictions on oil and gas companies that he put in place, finished the Keystone XL pipeline, reopen ANWAR, and stop putting restrictions on these companies.
None of that.
Why won't he do that?
Why won't he do that?
That is not that does not have much impact at all on the short run price of oil, which is a world commodity.
Okay, I'll wait a year from now.
...things he could do in the short run.
He could get rid of the stupid Trump tariffs...
And if he did that, prices would come down.
Oh, so we can let China rip us off again, and we can let Canada and Mexico rip us off again, and Japan rip us off again, and Western Europe rip us off again.
Let me tell you something.
It works agreement about what China was going to buy of U.S. products, and they didn't do it.
They didn't have a lot of people.
But the public in the tariffs promised.
It was a conceit.
We didn't make a it was paid by the middle class, Sean.
We're sitting here arguing, and I'm telling you right now on the middle class ever.
You we we are watching every single solitary American.
Now I know Democrats, David, they're gonna make this election.
They're gonna try about overturning Roe v.
Wade.
Abortion, Americans will figure out before November will still be legal in America.
So that's not going to work.
Then they're gonna try and take our nine millimeters and take away our guns.
That's only gonna piss off sixty-five percent of the country.
That's not gonna work for them.
They can't run on the border, they can't run in the economy, they can't run on energy prices, they can't run on Afghanistan, they can't run on foreign policy, they can't run on the war in Europe and how they screwed that up.
I mean, there's not a single success that we can point to that this cognitively deficient, weak and frail president can say, oh, that's a win for America.
Well, I suppose what they would have to do then is run on the cultural agenda of how much uh they've done for radical transgenderism and confused um moral moral and and ethical sides, but the economic part is the issue that generally drives elections.
And this is what's fascinating is where Austin came from with Jason Furman and Larry Summers, they are Biden's biggest critics.
The neo-Keynesian crew are the ones most critical of Biden.
I'm critical of him as a supply cider.
They're critical of him as Keynesians.
I don't know.
That's a great question.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back more with Austin Goelsby, Dave Bonson, and your calls coming up 800-941 Sean as we roll along.
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Bad economy getting worse.
David Bonson is with us, founder, managing partner of the Bonson Group, and Austin Goolsby.
He's a professor, professor, uh, Chicago's Booth School of Economics and former chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors of the Obama administration.
So I want to hear you criticize your buddy Lawrence Summers.
Are you going to criticize him?
Or will you acknowledge, as David and I acknowledge as supply siders, that in fact Lawrence Summers has been dead on accurate.
You guys should be a little more careful slash circumspect with saying that you agree with everything Larry Summers said.
Not everything, but he's been right about inflation.
He's been right about the economy.
He's saying he disagreed with the tail end of the Trump administration and the beginning of the Biden administration on the stimulus.
But he agreed.
He said early on that this inflation is not transitory and he's predicting worse times to come.
He's been saying for the last month that he thinks the Biden administration is absolutely doing it correct and is praising the Fed for their actions.
So be a little careful with with saying that.
You're only want to interpret the city.
Okay, listen, from more than a year ago.
Maybe you hang out with only old people, but I know a lot of young people and they're not going to be able to buy their first home because of the increase in interest rates.
And I happen to be friends with a lot of contractors and builders.
And David, I think you'll back me up on this.
When interest rates go up, home building is going to come to a screeching halt.
That means a lot more Americans are going to be out of jobs.
And the prediction today, when you read pretty much every economic news source, is that jobs are about to start declining precipitously.
Yeah, I do think that jobs are very vulnerable right now, but I want to say this about the housing sean.
I don't believe the housing market should be promoted or artificially held up by low interest rates.
And so I think Austin just got away with a really interesting bait and switch.
He said Larry Summers has been defending Biden.
He came out and said he supports what the Fed is doing.
But of course, the Fed is independent of uh Biden and Treasury last time I checked.
Having to raise interest rates because of excessive accommodative monetary policy has nothing to do with the Biden administration.
What the Fed is doing is now having to exacerbate a boom and bust cycle.
And as Sean said, that's going to hurt young people.
They hurt them first because housing prices have gotten too hot, and now it's going to hurt them because there's going to be less supply coming on the market.
Housing prices need to correct.
I'm for market forces.
But Dave, it's even worse than that.
Because it's if you look at Bloomberg, their estimate is anywhere between 5200 to $6,000 extra because of Biden inflation annually per household.
If you drive a car, you're going to pay $2,000 more this year for gas than you paid for last year.
You know what?
It's killing the poor.
It's killing the middle class.
It's even a third of people that make over $250,000 a year living paycheck to paycheck.
Not that anyone cares about them.
Uh and then you add to that people on fixed incomes, they're really screwed, David.
Last word.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Inflation is a regressive tax.
The way to solve this inflation, the Fed can set interest rates at 8% tomorrow.
It's not going to solve this.
You need supply side resolution, more oil production, more incentives to produce in the economy.
We've seen this movie before, Sean.
Now, Austin, if you don't follow my advice, I'll pay for dinner anytime I see you during the Biden inflationary, probably soon to be recessionary period, okay?
Okay, but you still owe me dinner from the last battle.
Oh, good grief.
Oh, good grief.
I already paid for one dinner, and you bought the most expensive wine on the menu just for the record.
It was good.
It was, I bet it was good.
All right.
Thank you both for being with us.
Uh it's sad.
People are suffering out there.
And you know what?
Biden's problem is every time you go to a store, you're reminded of it.
Every time he fill up your tank, you're reminded of it.
All their little tricks to try and convince you, oh, well, we should talk about guns and abortion, not gonna work.
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Very interesting push now behind the scenes for the Biden administration.
They want to cancel student loan debt.
Now, this is kind of personal for me because all the years that I ended up going to college and went to three separate places.
Um didn't finish my degree.
I love when they write, Sean Hannity, drop out.
I'm like, yeah, I dropped out because I didn't have any money.
I did have one student loan.
I got it from Jamaica Savings Bank.
And for 10 years, it doesn't sound like a lot in today's dollars, but it was hard because I didn't, I was living paycheck to paycheck, and every month I had to write a checkout to Jamaica Savings Bank for $58 and five cents.
Paid it off.
Took me 10 years to pay it off, paid every penny, paid back my debt.
You borrow money, you you pay it back.
Now my parents to their much to their chagrin, my parents I knew didn't have the money to send me to college.
They just didn't they didn't have it.
My mom, a prison guard, worked 16-hour shifts, and and my dad was a waiter and uh family corp officer, and they did send four kids to Catholic schools for 12 years, and that for them was a stretch.
I don't remember ever in my growing up years, not till later in their life, them ever getting a new car.
And I even remember this crappy Toyota Corolla that they had, and it was not the best car in the world.
Uh, but that's what they that's what they drove for a while.
Anyway, so for me, so I decided they often said, Well, no, no, no, we'll find a way, we'll take loans, we'll do that.
I'm like, no.
I said, I'm going to work.
And of course, I was incorrigible.
They had no sway at all whatsoever.
I think God is getting me back now because my kids don't always listen to me.
It's sort of payback.
It's karma.
That's why I always try to be nice to people.
Some I'm I'm hoping I I don't get more payback in life.
But in all seriousness, I would never ever want somebody else's money taken by my government to pay for my school.
And that's what this is about.
Empowering your government to take money from one group of people that and and I don't know people that were born with silver spoons in their in their mouths.
I don't know those people.
Have I met a few?
Yes, I've met a few in my life.
Do I know them?
Am I friends with them?
No, that's not my circle of friends.
But people that I do know that worked really, really hard and achieved an awful lot, including financial success.
The only way that I've ever witnessed them accumulating that success is by killing themselves in the workforce and being just committed to working.
I don't know people that work eight hours a day.
I don't know them.
Everybody on my radio team, everybody on my television team, uh, you better put in a minimum of 12, 13 hours a day, or you're not gonna cut it in my world because that's not how I roll.
And everybody, Linda, you can put on your microphone.
At what hours of the day and night do you get group text?
I send out news stories, this news story, this news story.
How many what hours of the day do they usually come flying in?
I I don't think there's an hour they're not flying in.
Right.
You are a you're a tech stalker.
Stalker texter, is there such a thing?
Oh, and by the way, they often come in like in rapid succession, too.
So Blair's hands.
You should play Linda's text sound for your text message.
Oh, you have the text on.
If you if you text me right now, I could play it on the air.
Oh, it's a special sound just for you, so that when you text, I know it's you.
And um, even Liam knows it's the boss's tech sound.
Anthony is like, oh, God, that's a...
There you go.
It's a very special sound that can wake you up at three in the morning if that's well, there are times that you know there are little crises that come up here and there.
Wait a minute, let me do that.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
There we go.
No, no, no, it had it on mute.
You had to tell me.
Most people mute their phones at already.
Ready?
Go ahead.
There you go.
It's like it's like Star Wars.
I don't know.
So if you're asleep at 4 a.m. and I'm known to text a lot of stuff at work.
The worst is when you text multiple articles.
So Blair Blair and I were working, and obviously we're trying to, you know, do a million things here.
And uh we're sitting there, and my phone's on and he's like, what the hell is that?
I said, Oh, that's uh that's Sean.
It's his special ring tension.
Sean's trying to contact me.
He wants to talk.
Sean has some story ideas.
But but in all and then look, I admit that I but I do treat my staff well.
Well, listen, you're a great boss, and I think um, you know, as somebody who I mean, I Blair and I did our MBAs together.
Uh I did both of all my degrees prior.
Every degree I have, I've done at night part time in night school, just like you.
I put myself through college, you know, um, put myself through master's in MBA programs, went on the weekends and at night while working full time, while pregnant, you know, and I think that you know, I went to school with a bunch of working people, you know, who everybody, right?
But there's a difference between going to school at night and going to school during the day.
There's a lot of people who go to school during the day and they're in fraternities and they enjoy college.
I didn't enjoy college.
I worked and then I went to college at night to get a degree.
The the years that I did go to college, and I was paying every penny of it myself.
Of course.
At one point NYU, which is not a cheap school.
No, why would you ever go to that liberal indoctrinating?
But I got great grades.
I mean, I even made my my first year in college, made all dean's list and uh, you know, had good grades, but I was working on the city.
So there was a time that liberals liked you.
I never had exact exactly.
But I never had the college experience.
Right.
Now I talked to all of my friends, and every single one of them, without exception, you know, those that had the college experience.
It's like the they live through those years.
They're 20 years older and they're still talking about their stupid college fraternity and going back to football games and all this stuff.
I didn't have that life.
By the way, I don't feel like I missed out on anything.
Me neither.
And the problem that happened for me is I started making money.
And once I started making money, I started saying, okay, I'm gonna work harder.
And it drove me it, whether in the beginning it was in restaurants, then it was 10 years as a contractor.
Those early years were were really rough.
But the idea that we're gonna take money anyway, so wait, to speak to that point, what we're taking away is any accountability or responsibility.
So you go into college, you don't have to pay for anything.
You thought you might have had to pay it back, but you're gonna have a lot of time to do it.
Oh, and by the way, the money you borrowed, now we're not gonna make you pay it back.
I mean, we're we're creating a society of dependency on the government, which is exactly what they want.
This is what they want because that gives them the power.
Socialism, what did I write in Live Free or Die?
Chapter four.
Every well, socialism is always a failure, but think about it.
Every single name, every manifestation, communism, socialism, redistributionism always becomes authoritarianism.
It always makes promises that will never be fulfilled.
People end up poor in the process, and it takes away all initiative and ingenuity because they're taken from one group of people, given to another group of people, also they can keep their power because they've got the dependency.
If you need the government for food and education and a job, guaranteed job and guaranteed healthy food and guaranteed health care and guaranteed guaranteed.
How did the Obamacare thing work out?
Keep your doctor, keep your plan, save money.
Well, millions lost their doctors, millions lost their plans, and we're all paying about 250% more than we were before.
So that didn't work out well, and about nearly 50% of the country has one Obamacare option.
That's it, provider option.
So it's not exactly what they told us it was going to be, but that's socialism.
False promises.
Um now, this guy that works on Shark Tank.
I've watched Shark Tank.
Um, I don't know why.
So I'd like I still like Mark Cuban.
He comes on the TV show once in a while.
We've had him on the city.
I mean, you don't have to, you don't have to agree with somebody like somebody.
I mean, you know.
But I kind of like him.
He's got a lot of personality.
He's got a lot of personality.
Sure.
And they're really smart business people on that show.
They got this one guy, his name is Kevin O'Leary, and he dealt with this issue, and he went off.
Now, before we play it, what is the reaction, Ben?
Because you you told me it's been fierce.
Well, the funny part of it is, and this is this is just what I'm reading online and on socials, is the story is taking over.
But so there's two sides to the story.
There's the people that have paid back their student loans and will not have any sort of uh money given back to them ever because they've already paid back their student loan and they're paying their taxes and they're capitalists now because they're making money.
And then there's another side of the coin, which are all the students and the students who have never worked and they're just getting out of college and now they have no debt and they're all for it.
So the the argument is fierce on both sides.
Obviously, you know, you and I are on the side with Kevin O'Leary that this just creates complete nonsense independency.
But you know, the funniest thing, my son gets in the real world and I said, Okay, as of June, you're on your own.
Because he already was making money.
And and I said, All right, no more Uber, no more Uber.
He says, Dad, you always said to me, I can use Uber as much as I want.
Of course, because I don't want you driving, especially if you go out, your friends, you have a couple of drinks.
That ain't happening.
And the other thing is he's he was young, an athlete, he can eat whatever he wants.
I'm not gonna deny my son food if he wants to order food at three in the morning.
What do I care?
Um, that's my job as a parent to provide for that.
Right.
Okay.
And then he's like, he he could he couldn't understand.
I said, Well, you still can have all the Uber each you want.
You could have as much, you can use Uber as often as you want.
Except now you pay for it.
You're making your own money.
I said, But but Dad, that's not fair.
And I said, Oh no, that's fair.
Oh, yeah.
I already did my job.
Oh, yeah.
Uh, let's play this.
And this really has sparked a huge controversy.
Kevin, what do you think about the plan for student loan forgiveness?
Becky, I'm trying to find merit in this proposed policy, and I can't.
This is policy born in hell, and I'll tell you why.
Nobody wins.
What do you say to people for generations now?
I've realized, like everybody does, that education is not a right, it's a privilege.
You make a decision as a young adult to pursue an education for a wide range of reasons, including advancing yourself in your career and your salary, et cetera.
And that's proven to work.
But you take on responsibilities, including student debt.
So, what do you tell people generations past that have actually paid back their debt?
How about the people that are working so hard to get scholarships to excel?
What do you tell them?
Don't bother, it's free.
How about the people that never had the opportunity to go to college?
About 12% of the population has student debt.
The other 88% have to pay for them.
And then think about the politics of this.
And this is what I find so extraordinary.
Average salary in America, $58,000, depending on regions.
You're telling these people, this is a big problem.
Meanwhile, you can't fill up your car.
Chicken costs 48% more, and this is at the top of the agenda for the president.
Can you imagine?
This is manna from heaven for the Republican Party.
In all these tight races coming into the midterms, this is going to be the issue that they get to campaign on.
Why?
Why would you do this?
This is a really, really bad idea.
And brings in the question, and I'll ask my good friend John that maybe he can help us.
Who is advising Biden?
Who are his closest advisors?
What planet are they on?
It's not the part of it.
That's great.
But the but you know, I don't understand a mindset.
Now, should we take care of those that are really sick and indigent and are homeless veterans and people with mental disabilities, the people that really need help?
I believe in being a compassionate country.
And we already are.
Those services are available.
Now we don't take as good care of vets as we should.
But putting that aside, with all the money that we waste and all the fraud, abuse, Wasted money if we reallocated it and ran government more like a business.
Guess what?
We get a lot more bang out of every single buck.
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