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You want to be a part of the program, much to my chagrin.
Um I'm gonna stay on this a little bit longer.
I didn't really want to, because I just found it so dark, ugly, just so deeply disturbing.
If you're just joining us, Johnny Depp, this six-week, you know, hundred-hour plus testimony that went on in this Johnny Depp and Amber Heard case, and Johnny Depp winning a multi-million dollar defamation lawsuit.
He was looking for $50 million.
He ended up getting 15.
Uh, but he did win this after the jury ruled that her 2018 online Washington Post article was in fact defamatory.
And again, he sued for $50 million, and the piece was entitled, I spoke up against sexual violence and faced our culture's wrath.
That has to change.
The article doesn't mention debt by name, yet his lawyers said it falsely implied he physically sexually abused Miss Heard while they were together.
And after six weeks of of just dark testimony, and I every time I watched it, it was like, man, this this is one messed up couple.
Uh 13 hours of deliberations, the jury's return jury returned a verdict.
It had to be a unanimous jury in favor of Johnny Depp.
And he was awarded 10 million dollars in compensatory damages and five million dollars in punitive damages.
And following the verdict, Depp said in a statement that he was humbled that the jury had given me my life back.
He said from the very beginning, the goal of bringing this case was to reveal the truth regardless of the outcome.
And speaking the truth was something that I owed to my children and all of those that have remained uh steadfast in their support of me.
I feel at peace knowing that I finally accomplished that.
He continued, I am and have been overwhelmed by the outpouring of love and colossal support and kindness from around the world.
I hope that my quest to have the truth be told will help others, men and women who have found themselves in my situation and those supporting them never giving up.
I also hope the position will now return uh innocent until proven guilty, both within the courts and in the media, which by the way, that's what we practice regularly.
That's why we didn't rush to judgment early in my career in the Richard Jewell case.
Uh I said, just because he lives with his mom doesn't mean he's a domestic terrorist.
I didn't know he was listening at the time.
He was.
I learned a lesson.
That's why we didn't rush to judgment with the Cambridge police.
That's why we didn't rush to judgment in Ferguson.
That's why we didn't rush to judgment with Pretty Gray in Baltimore, UVA or Duke LaCrosse, and the cases go on and on and on.
You know, we didn't rush to judgment in the Kavanaugh case.
We didn't rush to judgment early in my career in the Clarence Thomas case.
Everyone wants to rush to judgment.
In the suspend case, what did I say?
I said last night on TV.
I respect the jury's verdict.
You're innocent until proven guilty.
Do I think the jury pool?
This is the judge's problem, has nothing to do with Susman.
Uh was wrong.
I do, and I've expressed that, but that case is over.
He was not proven guilty according to that jury.
Um, but anyway, so Ms. Heard was awarded Two million dollars in damages for her counterclaim.
She sued, countersued him for a hundred million dollars over comments made by his lawyer, who allegedly referred to her abuse claims as a hoax.
That was found to be defamatory.
Following the verdict, the actress said she was heartbroken, but even more disappointed with what this verdict means for other women.
The disappointment I feel today is beyond words.
She says I'm heartbroken, that the mountain of evidence still was not enough to stand up to the disproportionate power, influence, and sway of my ex-husband.
Um, even more disappointed with what the verdict means for other women.
She said it sets the clock back to a time when women who spoke up, spoke out, could be publicly shamed and humiliated, and added that Mr. Depp's attorneys had succeeded in getting jury members to overlook freedom of speech.
I'm sad I lost the case, but I'm sadder still that I seem to have lost the right I thought I had as an American to speak freely and openly, and he had consistently denied the outrageous and outlandish claims of abuse and said that he had spoken up for what I've been carrying on my back reluctantly for six years during his own evidence.
The court previously heard the descriptions of depp's drug use, violence, exaggerated by Miss Hurdon or legal team, it goes on.
Anyway, I won't read any further.
That was from Yahoo.com.
Um We played now a couple of times the admission of Amber Heard.
Let me play it one more time.
Uh I didn't punch you, I just hit you.
Let's play it.
I did not punch you.
I did not fing deck you.
I hitting you.
I don't know what the promotion of my actual hand was.
But you're fine.
I did not hurt you.
I did not punch you.
I was hitting you.
Oh, you're so what am I supposed to do?
I was hit just hitting you.
Well, uh, I don't think anybody should hit anybody.
And in just because you have a disagreement.
Anyway, uh, this is what the this was the reading of the verdict just uh in the last hour.
Do you find that Mr. Depp has proven by clear and convincing evidence that Ms. Heard acted with actual malice?
Answer, yes.
As against Amber Heard, we the jury award compensatory damages in the amount of ten million dollars.
As against Amber Heard, we the jury award punitive damages in the amount of five million dollars.
Do you find that Ms. Heard has proven all the elements of defamation?
Answer no.
As against John C. Depp II, we the jury award compensatory damages in the amount of two million dollars.
As against John C. Depp the second, we the jury award punitive damages in the amount of zero dollars.
All right, joining us now for the legal aspect of this.
Uh Greg Jarrett is with us along with attorney uh Horace Cooper is with us.
Uh you know, Greg, I didn't watch it start to finish, but I watched enough a lot of it to know that this was really one toxic, horrific relationship.
Um you heard some of it there.
That's only a snippet.
There was a hundred plus hours of testimony.
What's your take?
Yeah, I agree with you.
These are two uh incredibly, you know, insufferable, pathetic, miserable people who decided to exploit the system of justice to exact uh the revenge against one another.
And yes, Depp won three of his defamation claims against her, she won one against him quantitatively.
He gets more money than she does.
But if they both thought that this trial would somehow restore their reputations, I I suspect they're wrong.
I mean, the ugliness of what was spilled out in court further sully both of them.
You played one clip in which she admits hitting him.
Well, he had text messages uh to uh fellow actors saying, quote, let's drown her, let's drown her before we burn her F her burnt course.
I mean, that's Well, yeah, matter of fact, I have that cut in particular, because you're right.
I mean, but it was a text, it's ugly as hell.
But listen, let's let's uh play it when it came up at trial.
I'd like to apologize to the court and to the jury for some of the language that I'm gonna have to use today, but unfortunately, um you're gonna see a lot of documents with language like this.
After you said, Let's drown her before we burn her, Mr. Depp.
You said I will f her burnt corpse afterwards to make sure she is dead.
That's what you said.
I mean, that's pretty dark, Greg Jarrett.
I mean, you know, excrement in the bed, vicious fights, tempered tantrums, rages uh by drugs and alcohol, a severed finger, photos of depth passed out, uh, you know, depth trashing furniture, both of them taunting each other.
He calls her a gold digger, and even worse.
Uh, you know, I mean, this is just uh ugliness, and I I just don't think in the end it helps either one of them.
I I kind of agree, putting all the money aside.
Horace, what's your take on it?
Well, um, there's no doubt uh it's toxic.
Uh I'm uh person who enjoys the law, understands and appreciates many of the subtleties, and I always welcome an opportunity for the American people to see how our legal system works.
Um I have to say it was a bit off putting uh while I'm trying to watch Fox News to keep up with what's going on in the world, that we had hours of coverage of this, and I continue to listen and learn.
Um from my take, however, uh, it wasn't two ogres.
It was one bad person and one worse, at least I think in the eye of the public opinion, and certainly in the eye of the jury.
One of the two parties was considered much more extricable with behavior than the other.
Um in some ways, um, Amber Heard is like the uh Justice Millet of the uh movement of women who say we want to make sure we're standing up for uh the rights of women and we want to call out bad men.
When you hoax in this way, when you misrepresent in this way, you undermine the importance of all Americans agreeing about the importance of treating women fairly, equally and justly.
You know, I I I just look at this whole thing, and and Greg, you said something about the justice system.
Are you saying that cases like this, civil cases shouldn't be brought to court?
No, what I'm really saying is that uh look, I was a defense attorney, but if I were a plaintiff's attorney in debt and come to me, I would have said think twice about doing this because all of your ugly, toxic, and sometimes violent relationship uh with your ex-wife is now going to be made public.
Do you really want that?
Uh and and I think uh a reasonable, rational person would say, yeah, you're probably right, not a good idea.
But these were two people who hated each other so much that they became irrational and unreasonable, and they, you know, they turned to the court system for retribution.
And, you know, I tend to think that more often than not, that's the bad decision.
You know, and at the end of the day, I mean, I I don't think either one of them, Horace, comes out of this with a reputation more than anything, even in Hollywood.
But there's a broader implication here.
I mean, this there's this whole movement.
I always had a problem with I believe, I believe, I believe, because I believe in innocence until the presumption of innocence until one is proven guilty.
And, you know, you can make all sorts of allegations.
We saw this more recently with Justice Kavanaugh, but we've seen many of these instances where people rush to judgment, starting with Richard Jewell, going to Cambridge Police, going to Ferguson, Missouri, going to Duke LaCrosse, going to UVA, going to Freddie Gray and Baltimore, Maryland, the media mob, look at Nicholas Sandman is another example.
You know, the media rushes to judgment.
People rush to judgment.
This is why I I I'm steadfast, with maybe the exception of the nearly nine minutes of video tape in the George Floyd case.
I found the the evidence so overwhelming, incontrovertible, and nobody said that the the video tape was fake.
What your what's your take?
Right.
So um it's the Me Too movement that I was trying to say.
Um, she's apparently at least the jury was convinced that she was hoaxing uh the Me Too movement and then undermining that causes a consequence.
When I was just a little kid, uh my parents uh dropped me off at the movie theater, and they were a little bit more lax at the movie theater when I was kid.
You could go from one movie to another, and I left this Herbie, the Love Bug movie, and went to see Kramer versus Kramer.
And this really reminds me of that.
Except in the end of Kramer versus Kramer, there's two dead people.
Married couples hate each other, and then they just go to war.
A lot of what was said did exactly that.
But as I say, the jury appeared to see that one was more awful than the other.
You know, and that's the sad part of it here.
And you have to worry, you know, where do people come in on this?
Uh, I gotta thank you both.
Uh Greg Jarrett, thank you.
Horace Cooper, thank you.
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We got other news to get to today.
Uh oh boy, another g another laughing fit of our vice president.
This one is getting rich.
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As we roll along, Sean Hannity Show.
All right, let's get to our busy phones here.
We'll take calls in the next half hour.
We've got Sussman.
We've got Kamala Harris.
We've got bad economic news, which probably you're sick of hearing.
Barbara Marilyn, you're next on the Sean Hannity show.
Glad you called.
Oh my God, you know I love you.
You know I love you.
And I love you too.
By the way, in the alphabet, you can say, hey, I just want to say, because I know it's short.
Uh hell has no theory like a woman's phone.
And of the Caribbean.
I'm just saying it.
I'm keeping it real, Sean.
You know, I gotta keep it real.
So you really think you did not believe her at all?
Because clearly the jury did not believe a lot of her.
Hell has no fear like a woman's corn.
That's all I think.
Tell me what tell me what did you know what Sean?
Tell me how you got to that location.
How did you get there?
What got you there?
Well, you know, Sean, we we can have coffee over this and talk about it, because here's the thing.
It's just that's just the way it is.
Uh for women, you know.
Oh my gosh.
You know, I don't even want to go there, you know, as far as when you love somebody or when you feel you've been deceived or whatever, but obviously there was some violence on both sides, but she seems to be a pretty violent kind of person.
And the one thing that did strike me that I think worked in his favor is even, I think she acknowledged that he would run to the next.
Why are you leaving me?
Why are you going room to room to room?
Because I'm trying to get away from you.
I'm trying to stop this.
I'm trying to de-escalate this.
I'm trying to make this go away.
I don't like this.
That I thought helped him.
But anyway, Barbara, I'm not messing with you.
I'll put it that way.
All right, back to the phones when we get back.
800-941-SHAWN, our number, then Bill O'Reilly coming up.
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All right, 25 now till the top of the hour.
We'll get to your calls here in just a second.
800-941 Sean.
You want to be a part of the program.
I don't know what is at the root of all of this.
Now, Joe Biden, we know is weak and frail and a cognitive mess, and he's in a steep cognitive decline.
It's it's clear the world's uh hostile regimes and our enemies all know it.
That's why they're acting the way they're acting.
We had leaked information.
Apparently, we've been able to pick up intelligence that in fact confirms that China has every intention of quote reunifying, in other words, taking over Taiwan.
Uh we have all the intelligence we need to know about Putin, North Korea.
They don't seem little Rocket Man is back and firing away.
Elton John would would probably not like the use of his song uh for little rocket man.
But uh putting all that sign, then we have the word salads of Kamala Harris.
It doesn't make sense.
She is getting worse every day.
She's got her own issues.
It is very obvious at this point to me that should God forbid, and I mean this, I never wish ill on anybody.
I I believe in karma, if you will.
Um, I want wish Joe the best.
I wish he'd have a speedy recovery and and all of a sudden become the Joe Biden of old, which wasn't great, but it's certainly better than what we got now.
But she's one heartbeat away from the presidency.
And every time she speaks, uh, I lose even more confidence in her ability, if she's ever called on to be the president, the leader of the free world.
And then we've got this other issue, and that's the weird, strange, bizarre, inappropriate timing, this laugh thing, this giggle thing, whatever you want to call it of hers, because it happened again this particular time, laughing as she recalls droughts.
Not sure what's funny about a drought.
I've been out in the San Joaquin Valley and they had a drought, and I talked to farmers, they can't farm because they were protecting uh a species that's not even endangered called the Delta Smelt.
True story.
And this is out in uh Devin Nunes' old district.
And so they wouldn't give the water to the farmers to protect the delta smelt.
If you don't know what a delta smelt is, look up a minnow fish, because that's about what it is.
Something we have plenty of.
You know, we could capture the delta smelt, we could relocate the delta smelt, and we can give the water to the farmers, let the avocados grow, let the oranges grow, uh, let the cabbage grow, let whatever, whatever they're growing out there, let them grow it all.
But she thinks it's funny.
Now, you decide if this is appropriate.
And I remember watching in the Oakland Hills, Northern California, um, the the landscape turning from green to brown.
And everyone, from my mother, our teachers, the radio DJs, KDIA.
Lucky 13.
Um, saying how important it was to conserve water.
Okay.
Now important is the water.
I don't, I just don't find that funny.
I don't find it funny at all.
And she laughs at all these other on all these other occasions.
And then she repeats herself when she's giving, if she's speaking off the cuff.
Now, I've been accused of repeating myself, but I do it with rhyme and reason.
The reason I proved to Linda mono clonal antibodies.
And one day, Linda kept saying, Why do you keep telling everybody the same thing every day?
I said, because I don't want my audience not to know about monoclonal antibodies because Fauci wasn't talking about it.
Walinski wasn't talking about it.
The NIH wasn't talking about it.
Uh Joe Biden wasn't talking about it.
And I happen to know from every doctor I interviewed that that was the therapeutic, the gold standard.
Are you ready?
Yeah.
Okay.
You were right.
That's on national radio.
Should there be a breaking news down there at some point?
I would think you were right.
I still I stood correct.
Breaking news now.
Linda McLaughlin has apologized on air.
I am speechless for the first time in my career.
All right.
So the funny thing is, though.
I mean, I said it for months and months.
You were right.
And then one day, Linda goes, why?
No, I just was like, come on.
People are listening, they hear it, they understand.
And you're like, uh-huh.
All right.
So I said, let's go to the calls.
And everybody that was on, I think we went to like five, seven people.
Okay.
You did.
What is Sean's recommendation if you get a positive COVID test, if you pop positive as I call it.
What do you do?
And not one of the people that were on hold that are regular listeners knew what to do.
Well, I always say that because the people that call in are like 1% of our listeners, right?
Because they keep trying.
I mean, they're working hard and some of them can't call in.
So these are people that are diehard fans calling in.
They're listening.
They're listening.
And no one else was saying it.
Now, we have tested it since months later.
Like, for example, every election year, I'm gonna come up with what the defining issues of the election are.
And I'm already giving my list out.
I call it the Hannity list.
And it's gonna talk about the borders.
It's gonna talk about running out of Hannity Headlines.
Hannity headlines.
A Hannity.com.
And you by if you want to see Kamala Harris, you can see Kamala Harris on Hannity.com because we got that very cut and others up there.
Uh but the reality is the border chaos, Joe, running out of COVID tests around Christmas, running out of therapeutics over Christmas.
That's unforgivable going into the third year of a pandemic.
That happened.
Afghanistan, abandoning Americans.
That happened.
A 41 two-year high of inflation.
We're living it every day.
Now, record high gas prices.
Every single day we're setting new records.
Americans are getting crushed financially.
War in Europe.
You go through the list, and I can't cite a single thing he's done that's successful.
And all the while Kamala is laughing.
She's laughing or making a word salad, and he's living in not the real Oval Office, the phony oval office, the stage oval office, because they can't put the teleprompter up close enough in the real Oval Office.
No.
We we we got a problem.
Joe thinks that corn pop is chief of staff.
Unbelievable.
But listen, we have a whole montage of Kamala Harris, literally laughing.
And even when she was talking about what was happening overseas, you know, a friend in need is a friend indeed, and just starts.
What are you laughing?
Why are you laughing at?
It's not all right, let's play Kamala.
What's your response?
You're a part of America!
Hold on, hold on.
Blow down everybody.
What do you say to diplomats that are concerned for their safety?
And is the U.S. doing anything to address that situation?
And then I have a follow-up on Afghanistan.
Okay.
More parents are seeing the value of educators when they had to pregnant kids.
And say we're not paying them nearly enough.
Is the United States willing to make a specific allocation for Ukrainian refugees?
Okay.
A friend in need is a friend indeed.
What would you say you've learned over this year?
Well, one of the things I've learned is to get out of DC.
I was gonna start prosecuting parents for truancy.
Well, this was a little controversial in San Francisco.
And frankly, my staff went bananas.
They were very concerned because we didn't know at the time whether I was gonna have an opponent in my re-election race.
You're considered the most liberal United States senator.
I somebody said that in it actually was Mike Pence on the debate stage.
But one of the biggest dilemmas for any of us as a parent is what to do about our kids in school.
Yes.
K through 12, college, all of that.
And we all want them to go back to school.
Right.
Um but safely.
Is it the border?
Um, not today.
But um I have before, and I'm sure I will again.
I don't get it.
I mean, it's so inappropriate.
Now, there's something off there.
I don't know what it is.
I'm not a doctor.
I always say that, right?
I'm not a doctor.
I'm not a financial advisor, but something is off.
Now, maybe it's You're so kind.
Something?
I would say like everything?
Yeah.
Everything is off.
I'm being nice.
I know.
But I'm I'm trying to be respectful a little bit of the office.
All right, quick break, right back to our phones.
800-941 Sean.
You want to be a part of the program as we roll along.
We'll be right back.
All right, back to our phones here.
Phillip is in North Carolina.
Philip, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Nice to talk to you, Sean.
Thank you for doing what you do.
Thank you for letting me do it.
Thank you.
I have a uh just a comment about uh something that Joe Biden had said the other day about you know reducing our need for fossil fuels.
And this is something that nobody's talking about.
Uh what is the batteries made out of?
Where does that product come from?
It comes from the earth, just like oil does, right?
As far as I know, look, it's somebody did an analysis, and I forget the exact numbers and percentages, but even in their precious electric cars, and you're talking specifically about batteries, there's fuel components in those cars.
It's not like it's it's made completely fuel free or energy free.
It's very, very simple.
I'm all in favor of really cheap, the cleanest energy possible.
If some liberal genius comes up with an invention.
I I told you I used to go to the invention convention every year, and I told you about this one guy that lived in Louisiana, and he wrote this book, and his theory, it's never been proven was the gravitational pull represented if we could tap into it, an unlimited source of free energy for the entire world.
If that turned out to be true, the guy, Joseph Newman was his name, he's since passed away.
If that had turned out to be true, guess what?
I'm happy.
You know why?
Because the world having free energy, it's uh it's a game changer.
Everybody can be wealthy because nothing is gonna be that expensive.
But that not being the case, the lifeblood of the world's economy, the reality is it's oil, gas, and coal and and nuclear, but you can't do that because liberals don't want that either.
So now the highest gas prices yesterday, as the last time I looked, was over $8 a gallon in California.
They're now paying, oh, about $625 or $630 on average in California for a gallon of gasoline.
I'm now paying five bucks uh and over five bucks for a gallon of gasoline in New York, where I go, and I pump it myself.
I used to have the guy pump it, but you pay extra to have the guy pump it, and I'll be I'm not paying any more than I have to pay.
Because deep down in my heart, I'm still, you know, the guy that struggled to pay rent.
I can afford it, but I'm not wasting my money.
It and it's but it's think about this.
It's kill it.
Two-thirds of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.
Two-thirds.
And what do I always tell my staff?
Everybody here that works on my team and on television, they don't live paycheck to paycheck.
And I tell everybody, give them a bonus every year, and I say these words.
Money equals freedom.
Save your money.
If you get a raise, live at the same level you've been living at.
Don't get the big apartment and live above your means.
You want to put money away for a rainy day.
How do poor people do that now?
They can't.
How do the how do the middle class do that?
They can't.
How do how do people on fixed incomes do that?
They can't.
When you now, through Biden inflation is a new tax, and it's averaging the average household nearly $6,000 a year.
If you drive a car for crying out loud, it's another $2,000 a year in gas alone.
You know what?
We can't afford it.
The worst part is We don't need to be paying these high prices.
We have an answer.
Donald Trump showed us the way.
He got us to energy independence for the first time in 75 years.
Let's go back to those policies.
Problem is Biden, Democrats are now radical climate alarmist religious cult members.
Now, what's the one thing about a cult member has in common?
They are brainwashed.
They are indoctrinated.
They have people that have specialized in the art of deprogramming, brainwashed people.
And often they fail at their mission of deprogramming people.
Once your mind is taken over and you buy into a lie and a false ideology, convincing somebody that it's a lie, guess what?
It's nearly impossible.
It's like getting somebody off of opioids.
Odds of success once you're addicted is 15%.
Not good numbers.
We'll give you the last word.
I absolutely agree.
Like I said, my biggest thing was is, you know, the batteries, everything you, as far as electric cars, it comes from the earth just like you know, oil does.
And cars are made out of plastic.
So, you know, that's all petroleum-based products.
Nobody's talking about the fact that you still need petroleum to make all these products.
And then, you know, the other thing that, you know, just struck me was, you know, there's almost 40 million people in California.
Has anybody even thought to, you know, look at the power grid?
What's going to happen when all these people convert over to electric cars and plug their cars in every night or every other night?
You know, what is that going to do to the power grid in major cities?
You know, again.
They're already predicting brownouts like they have in California, rolling brownouts.
They are for the rest of the country.
They're predicting diesel shortages.
They're predicting gas shortages.
Guess what?
I am I'm urging all of you in this audience, please listen to me.
Things are going to get much tougher.
Prepare for the worse.
Worst case scenario.
Now, if I'm wrong, I'll gladly say, thank God I was wrong.
I don't think I'm going to be wrong here.
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