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Now we brought to you yesterday, we told you all about jury selection and the jury pool and the Michael Sussman case.
And well, we had a huge blockbuster breakthrough in this case today that brings all of this right into Hillary Clinton's right onto her lap.
Uh and she was in the courtroom.
Uh Alina Haba is with us, and she is the counsel for President Trump, and also uh our friend Greg Jarrett, uh, who wrote two best-selling books on this issue about the Russia hoax.
Thank you both for being with us.
Alina, you were in the courtroom today.
Walk us through what happened with Robbie Mook.
Yeah, thank you for having me, Mook.
Uh well, maybe explain to everybody who Mook is.
People might not know he worked for Hillary.
Yeah, for sure.
He not only worked for Hillary, he actually ran her campaign and was the manager of Hillary for America campaign from April 2015 through the election that she lost.
Um he ha has extensive experience for Kerry, state representatives, Clinton in 2008, and DCC, etc.
So Robbie Mook is very well versed in this game.
And in this trial, we are hearing a lot of reference to what's called an October surprise, which is effectively when you put out information, whether it be verified or not, that's damaging to your opponent and a candidate in a time frame where they do not have the the opportunity to respond or negate what was said.
Today we by the way, there would have been a real October surprise in 2020 because the Hunter Biden laptop was real, uh, which is why the media, the biggest donors to Joe Biden's campaign, desperately in the final weeks of the 2020 election, didn't want the truth in this case to come out, but that was a real life, not a manufactured October surprise.
Correct, just like how they're distracting from this trial right now by putting out information about UFOs.
When it suits them, they distract the media.
Look at the shiny ball.
What happened here today you cannot avoid.
Robbie Mook took the stand under oath, and I watched him say that he had a meeting with Mark Elias from Perkins Coie, who was the DNC and Hillary Clinton's general counsel, who had this whole Fusion GPS manufactured documents created partially by his firm.
The white papers were drafted.
He then goes to the campaign, has a meeting with Robbie Mook, Podesta, Palmieri, Jake Sullivan, who's currently in the White House, as frightening as that is, is a national security advisor.
And he said that we all agreed that we were going to take this information that their lawyers brought and give it to the press.
And what's worse is he personally called Hillary Clinton.
He testified on the stand today, and she approved it.
So Hillary, just to be very, very clear here.
Let's let's start at the beginning.
Hillary Clinton and her campaign, and this was brought out on the first day of trial that this was an October surprise.
Uh they funded money.
They they funneled money through a law firm, Perkins Cooey.
That's where Mark Elias worked, correct?
And that's where Sussman worked, uh who's now on trial for lying to the FBI.
And they then Hired an op research firm called Fusion GPS.
Right.
Fusion GPS then hires Christopher Steele.
Christopher Steele puts together a series of documents that we now refer to as the dossier, unverifiable, totally debunked, uh, a series of lies about Donald Trump that were never true, and that even Baker admitted on the stand yesterday, yeah, he didn't put any stock in any of this at all.
Correct.
And they also had new star Rodney Joffey, who is under Sussman's domain, who also works for the DNC and actually had top secret FBI clearance.
That's how integrated he is, who helped the FBI GC get a job after he left the FBI.
It's incestral, Sean.
And what they did was they created both the server story, the Alpha Bank story, the dossier, and they pushed it through.
And Hillary today, we found out, knew that this was given to her by people she was paying to do opera to do opposition research.
She's paying for them to create this.
She gives it, doesn't verify it, gives it to the news, and Robbie Moop said today on the stand I expected that the news vet it.
He expected the news to vet their slime.
I love that.
Russian disinformation.
Let me bring in uh Greg Jarrett.
He had two number one best selling books on this very topic.
Uh everything you reported, Greg, everything we reported, everything our ensemble cast reported, uh, was dead on accurate.
And I remember when we first were talking about the dossier, and you'd read the whole thing, and you said you were laughing out loud, it was so salacious and so nonsensical that it should have been to everybody.
But now you have James Baker, he he's admitting that he didn't believe any of it.
Then it raises the question well, why did James Comey, the FBI director, sign three of the Pfizer warrants over a nine-month period of time.
Because James Cumby hated Donald Trump and wanted to find a pretext, even a phony excuse to pursue Donald Trump.
Uh and he wanted to drive him uh from the White House.
And Hillary Clinton, the same thing.
Uh if she couldn't have the White House, she was going to make sure that Donald Trump couldn't have it either.
This was after he was elected.
So as I wrote in both of my books, the evidence was clear.
Hillary invented the Russia hoax, uh, ordered the dissemination of the phony information, and funded it through Perkins CUI.
Uh and today was a classic example of how not to try a case if you're a defense attorney.
One of the things you first learn is never call a witness to the stand that's going to come back and bite you in the butt.
And that's what happened.
The defense calls MOOC to the stand to make the point, well, I don't think anybody in the campaign actually told Sussman to go to the FBI.
But the downside was horrific for the defense and and for Hillary Clinton when MOOC said, yeah, Hillary personally approved leaking this bogus information of Trump Russia.
But I but I bet you there had to be some reason they that Robbie Mook had to tell the truth.
He must know there's something in writing that would implicate him, and he knew he couldn't perjure himself.
Maybe that's a guess on my part.
He doesn't want to end up at the defense table along with with Sussman and Igor Danchenko for lying uh under oath.
So, you know, he had to spill the beans.
He had to cough it up and exposed Hillary Clinton's personal role in the hoax we already knew through declassified documents.
She approved the plan, July 26, 2016, to frame Trump as a Russian asset, knowing full well it was a hoax.
It was untrue.
She didn't care.
She wanted to hurt his chances of winning the presidency and to enhance her own chances of occupying the Oval Off.
Let me get to the bigger question here.
Alina, I'll throw it to you first, then we'll get Greg's take.
And that is this.
Durham has taken forever.
I I I cannot believe this didn't come out before the election in 2020.
What do you glean that Durham now understands fully that happened?
Exactly what our case says, that there was a RICO Type of conspiracy.
And that the conspiracy went, as we learned today, all the way to the top, that there were payments being funneled through a law firm to disguise the conspiracy as a legitimate opposition research, you know, guys, when what he is trying to build is a Rico case.
The only way that you get the mob is by starting at the bottom and getting hitman after hitman to testify incorrectly and inconsistently.
That is what's happening.
It takes time, unfortunately, and with COVID, it obviously didn't help matters with the court system.
But he is building that case, and today was groundbreaking.
He just shot Mook just shot us right up to the top.
You know, I can't believe it.
I I'm sitting here stunned.
I mean, I I guess maybe in the back of my mind I'd kind of given up all hope on this.
What's your take on Durham and what he really knows at this point, uh, Greg Jarrett?
Well, he knows a lot, and under the U.S. code, he's required to submit a full report.
I don't see how uh Merrick Garland, the attorney general, can suppress that report from the public, especially since Bob Muller's report uh was largely public.
But you know, let me make one other uh point here.
This was a criminal enterprise under the racketeering law.
That is a conspiracy to commit a crime, a joint venture with a group of people, Hillary at the top.
And the crime is fraud, defrauding the government.
They engaged in an elaborate conspiracy to feed knowingly and intentionally fraudulent information.
How do they know it was fraudulent?
Because they're the ones who fabricated it.
People like uh Olga Galenka and Charles Dolan Jr. and Igor Danchenko, all Hillary Confederates fed the phony information to Christopher Steele, which put it in his dossier, and they peddled it to the FBI, they peddled it to the media.
But peddling it to the FBI, that's a crime.
You are obstructing the legal process, the chief law enforcement agency in the US, the FBI, and you are defrauding them with phony information.
Hillary should have been charged uh with conspiracy to defraud the government.
But, you know, as she did with her email scandal, she escaped the jaws of justice.
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We continue with Alina Haba, President Trump's attorney.
She's been in the courtroom in the Susman trial the entire time, and of course Greg Jarrett is with us.
He wrote two best-selling books on the Russian hoax.
Let me ask you both this.
Based on what we're hearing in this trial and what's coming out in this trial, Alina, who else is implicated here?
Because if they knew it was false, who now might find themselves as a result of this information that we're gleaning uh in trouble in terms of having legal issues.
To the top of my list would be, well, obviously Hillary, but Mark Elias is going to be an easy one after this trial.
His testimony was inconsistent.
It was many times he laughed.
He discussed how he knew nothing that Sussman was doing.
Meanwhile, he's paying his own guys, they said today over half a million dollars fusion got to basically look in the open web and create the story.
So Mark Elias a hundred percent.
Then you're looking at the obvious ones.
Um, you know, we've got we got to find out what Jake Sullivan pedested up, Palmer, um, what uh we now know what Mook knew.
Um and go down the line.
Jim Baker, his testimony was troubling.
He was back and forth vacillating.
He said that, you know, he got a text saying that he was not working Sussman was not working for a client, but then he admits that he was friends with him and got jobs with him or tried to get jobs with him, but he tried to get a job with suspend with Perkins Cluey.
But wait a minute, but he's the general counsel of the FBI.
That remember it was Andrew McCabe that said if we didn't have the dirty dossier, there wouldn't have been a Pfizer warrant issued.
He said he said that himself.
Now if he's the general counsel and Comey signing on to an unverifiable document, and he knew it was unverifiable himself.
He said he dismissed it within a day, inside of a day, the exact words of Baker.
Does that implicate Comey?
Absolutely, Comey McCabe, all of the head of the FBI, because remember another thing that came out, which I didn't mention.
We learned in the past two days that there was not a special agent that was present when Jim Baker had this meeting with Michael Susman, even after he was given evidence.
He signed a chain of custody letter from Jeff, Peter Strzok, and then never said where he got it.
And nowhere in the FBI investigation does it mention Michael Sutton's name.
It's not even Let me get Greg's take only for the constraints of time.
Um I've called this the biggest abuse of power corruption scandal in American history.
Uh I think I've been proven right.
Uh, even with the limited information that has come out and so much more to come, Greg.
Well, it's the biggest dirty trick ever in American politics.
The subtitle of my second book was The Greatest Mass Delusion in American Political History.
The New York Post called it the scandal of a generation.
That's putting it uh in a tame vein.
I you know, this is horrific.
And yet the media was complicit.
They were witting accessories.
The the the worst media malpractice in American history.
They didn't bother to corroborate or vet any of it.
They ran with a phony story.
Most of the members of the media knew it was phony, that they wanted to believe because they hated Donald Trump.
It really is unbelievable.
You couldn't even have have thought of or conceived of a spy novel that goes this deep into the weeds and that that that shows this level of just corruption of our entire electoral system.
Uh Alina, great job.
Uh, we're gonna check in with you often.
We're not gonna we're not gonna let up on this because now America's is being proven that everything we said is true.
It's fascinating.
There's almost a media blackout.
That's how corrupt they are.
Just like they protected Hunter.
Now they're protecting their phony phony lies and conspiracy theories that they spewed for years.
It's it's it's repulsive to this country.
Anyway, great job.
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Um we spent a good part of the last hour bringing you inside the courtroom of the Sussman trial uh with Donald Trump's attorney, and of course the analysis of Greg Jarrett, um, probably the guy that knows as much or more than anybody about this case is Devin Nunes, you might remember who is the head of the House Intel Committee, and and he knows every detail top to bottom about this.
Now the revelation today that in fact uh Robbie Mook on the stand said, uh, yeah, I was with uh Jennifer Palmeri and and Jake Sullivan.
Yeah, that Jake Sullivan that is now working for Biden, uh, and Mark Elias and John Podesta, and we all talked about uh whether or not we should go with this dirty Russian disinformation dossier.
Uh, but I had to check with Hillary Clinton, and I uh went outside the room and I called Hillary Clinton and she gave the okay.
That's something well we didn't quite expect.
And then you have the whole Pfizer warrant issue, which is they used the dirty dossier, which Andrew McCabe admitted without a the dirty dossier there wouldn't have been an approval of the Pfizer warrants.
Then they use the Pfizer warrants, uh the dirty dossier to get the Pfizer warrants to do the spying.
And nobody really has been held accountable in all of this.
Let me let me play Jonathan Turley's take on this, and then I'm gonna play a little bit of James Baker, and then we're gonna get Devin Nunes' take.
Durham faces a lot of challenges in this trial.
The judge in the trial has hit the prosecution with limiting orders.
Uh this jury pool is a nightmare for the prosecutors.
Uh there's three Clinton donors on the jury, and just in the last twenty-four hours, the judge turned down a motion to dismiss a juror whose daughter is actually playing on the same team with the daughter of Sussman.
So I think for the prosecutors, it seems like the only thing that is missing on the jury is Chelsea Clinton.
I mean, it it you know, a jury of your peers is not supposed to mean other Clinton people.
And so I think that the prosecutors have quite a challenge with this pool.
So I don't even think it's I I don't think it's surmountable.
I'll be that blunt.
They don't belong on the jury.
Now, Andrew um, I'm sorry, uh the general counsel, James Baker.
He was under oath testifying this week, and he said that when he met with Sussman, uh, it didn't ring true what he was saying to him, and he said he dismissed it inside of a day, but then he later at a later date knew damn well it was the foundation for the FISA application uh to spy on Carter Page and backdoor the Trump campaign.
Listen to what he said in 2019.
So what is your view of the way the d the d the FBI interacted with Steele and how we should understand what his role was here?
That's a big question.
So um look, the investigation was not predicated on the basis of the information that Christopher Steele gave to us in the form of the dossier.
That is just not was not my understanding at the time and has never been my understanding.
So just to say that flat out.
Uh Steele at the time, my understanding was that he was thought to be a reliable source that had a that had a prior relationship with the FBI and brought this information to us.
Look, with I don't know how to say this.
Other than we're not stupid, right?
The FBI.
We're not stupid.
You take the information and you try to vet it.
And that my recollection is we spent a lot, we the Bert Bureau, uh, the folks in the counterintelligence division, spent a lot of time trying to vet that information line by line.
Now, he said on the on the stand um and testified about all of this that their analysis of the FBI, especially the data on the Alpha Bank Trump organization servers.
Remember that charge that was made?
Um, you know, that was given by Sussman that they dismissed that part of it in a day, and that Trump organization's ties to the Kremlin didn't ring true.
Um so he has a lot more questions that he has to answer regarding all this.
Anyway, Devin Nunes is with us.
He's no longer a congressman.
He's been promoted, thank God.
He has a much more honorable profession.
He is the CEO of Truth Social, that is the Trump Media and Technology Group, which by the way, you can now get their app on any device, uh, any desktop, uh, which is a huge tech technological advancement for them.
Uh congratulations, number one.
Number two, um, if my staff is nice to me, they said uh they might let me put it on my phone one day.
Well, Sean, you need it on your phone, and your team's doing a phenomenal job.
You have, I think you're over a million followers, one point two million.
So you're just you're just crushing it.
But you know, that was interesting testimony.
Uh you know, that was uh I assume that was an interview that you that you just played.
Correct.
And it really does raise more questions because the whole idea that these cats in the FBI didn't use the dossier is nonsense.
It's the only thing they had.
And in fact, they had to have been in on all of it.
So remember, it was one of the Lovebirds struck, who essentially you know, and we now know this because things that have now been declassified thanks to judicial watch.
He wrote that communication himself.
He wrote it, he approved it, and they did it.
So what's really happening here today is that we have for the first time now, the rats are running off the ship, and you clearly saw that Mook, the former campaign manager wants nothing to do with this, and he for the first time we now know direct evidence that Hillary Clinton was briefed on at least the Alpha Bank process.
Now, my guess is she was fully briefed on the whole operation.
And let me just and you know, why why did this happen?
Why did why did all this happen?
What was the purpose of it?
If you if you if everyone goes back in time, remember when everyone was running around looking for the and you know this better than anybody, Sean, because I think you you talked about it for so long.
Everyone was looking for the destroyed Hillary Clinton emails that dated back to her Benghazi scandal.
And I believe that they all knew that the Russians, the Chinese, somebody had those emails, they were nervous as hell that those were gonna surface.
And that's why they concocted this whole damn thing.
It was essentially not just the it was kind of the cherry on top to use and and smear Trump.
It was just kind of something that they could that they could use, and of course, after the election, they really went at it.
But I think the real reason you were alluding to it, Sean, was to do what?
It was to spy on the Trump campaign, their opponent to see if it was possible if the Trump campaign had somehow come up with those emails that would be definitely would do in the Clinton campaign if some of those emails surfaced, which by the way, we've never seen them.
And they must be really bad, whatever the hell was on that, whatever was on those servers.
Um it's too bad that you will never know.
I uh I I don't know about you.
I'd never heard of Bleach Pit before this that whole mess came down.
And you know, then of course we have missing sim cards, and then of course we have uh aides of hers taking hammers to cell phones and busting them in little pieces.
Uh I gotta believe that in fact um uh that was done probably to cover something up, but you know, I've I was kind of born suspicious uh uh Devin because I was born in New York.
Um where I come from, somebody does something that extreme.
There's usually a good reason behind it.
Well, yeah, exactly.
There for them to go to that yeah, for them to destroy it like they did, the server like they did.
And for them to be running this offshoot server, I can't wasn't it being run out of like Colorado or somewhere with some company, I think, as I recall.
And but look, this is this was a really began a a really dark chapter in American history that started in late fifteen, early sixteen, all because Hillary Clinton was doing something illegal, hit it up, God only knows what exists on those emails, and then they use this and our intelligence agencies, the FBI, to go and spy on the campaign.
And that's look, that's really at the at the end of the day here, um, it kind of appears just uh you know, and this is it's tough to say because you you're kind of reading the tea leaves of what we're getting out of the court, but it appears like the Clinton campaign are trying to distance themselves from Sussman uh from uh from the uh you know from Fusion GPS that they paid.
It it kind of seems like that.
It seems like Mook really threw uh threw them under the bus.
It seems like Baker is, you know, he now has miraculously has a you know perfect recollection of everything that that happened.
Um, you know, the problem for all of them is is that you know what we all know um with you know through circumstantial evidence is they were all in on it.
So the only question is is whether or not they're going to bring down the hammer and get the people upstream.
And that's what Durham has to do here.
And I think what Mook said today gets them uh a little bit farther down that down that track or up that up you know up the stream there to other to other people that should be indicted.
Now I think what Jonathan Turley said in that interview is exactly right.
You really have to question and I won't repeat it all, but you have to question the judge that's involved in here, his relationship, you know his last relationship I'll tell you what if I'm ever going to I I want this judge as long as he's going to allow me to pick my best friends and put them on the jury.
That I I'd really love that if it was happening to me.
Yeah yeah what did Trley say that uh that that you might as well have Chelsea the only thing when they're missing on there is Chelsea Clinton.
No I mean can you imagine you got three Clinton donors and and you got uh uh uh one juror that's child is on the same team as the guy that's on trial here.
I mean this is madness.
It it it is madness.
I mean can you imagine I mean I you know I've always said you know I've I've of course I never would get would get picked would for juries because the defense always kicked me out.
Um but I was in kind of enjoyed going through the process what I was able to go through the process that I mean you know people get you know you could be a you know three people removed from from the defendant and people would get kicked out of the jury pool.
I mean here you have a direct relationship that that juror had to know that and so th I mean this is the problem i in DC and I and I think I said this on your show the other night.
If Sussman was indicted anywhere but Washington DC, this guy would have pled guilty.
He would have pled guilty or you know he would have been you know he would have disappeared from the from the planet somehow.
I mean there's this guy you know should be he he's willing to serve up to five years in prison to cover for all these uh characters that that clearly were all involved in this conspiracy and Durham's got a hell of a hell of a uh tough row to hoe here.
Well I I don't think you can get a guilty verdict on suspend here with this jury poll.
I just don't.
I think the deck is stacked against the the prosecution and they'll say see even Durham is wrong and that's not going to be the case.
Uh I think any fair minded individual by the way I w I wouldn't even want a Trump person on this jury.
That would be inappropriate to me as well just to be clear.
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Alright we continue Devin Nunes is with us, CEO of Truth Social, also former House Intel committee chair.
Um let me just shift gears for a second here I only have a minute or two with you.
Um I'm really happy for you I'm happy about the success of Truth Social we really need this platform to work and work well because look up like every other conservative shadow banning suspensions, canceling accounts all that happened to conservatives that's not going to happen at Truth Social.
Tell us tell us a little bit of uh in the ninety seconds we have left about it.
Well it's amazing what's happening you know uh already you're getting much more interaction on truth and you have been now for for really even even before we open it up even though I have nearly six million Twitter followers, I have one point two on truth and I get more interactions on truth than I do on Twitter.
Yes and and that and it's not just you it's it's it's it's nearly everyone.
And you know that's happening for two reasons.
One, yes you were being shadow banned, right?
And I think for Instagram Instagram's different than Twitter.
And remember what we're trying to do is we're trying to take the best of all these social media companies and put it onto one platform that cannot be canceled.
So you have on on one hand, I believe on Instagram and Facebook conservatives are still being shadow banned.
But but Instagram does have real users.
I think what's happening between what Truth Social is doing and Elon Musk uh kind of dipping his toe into the water getting involved in Twitter, what it's exposed is that what's what I've been saying for a long time is you know Twitter is basically a big bot farm and it's a it's a PR wire for celebrities and Hollywood people and political people to post but for a long time they've gotten away uh with inflated numbers.
And and and it's obvious by just the the performance and the interactions that people like you are seeing on a platform, Sean.
That look, we were we've been on Apple.
You you you've been able to get on Apple for a month.
And here we are.
You've put this is only day three that you can go through your web browser, TrueSocial.com and sign up.
And how is it possible that people are getting more interesting?
By the way, it's absolutely free in case people don't know that.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So look, that's the proof.
It's very interesting to watch.
Um and look, it's you're right.
Uh this is look, this is gonna be a successful company because we are not like the we're we're taking what true social is doing what Facebook and others were six, seven, eight years ago before they started all this crap and censoring.
So people are I want to say one last thing, and people can just go to truthsocial.com or download it in the app store.
Um, I'm happy for you, but uh on the other hand, everything you said about Russia collusion and it being a conspiracy theory and a hoax turned out to be true.
Everything the congenital liar Adam Schiff said turned out to be lies.
When does he ever get held accountable after like 10 seconds?
Well, he represents Hollywood, Sean.
And that's uh I think that says it all in a nutshell, right?
That'd be the guy who's stuck with him.
He has no business being on the Intel committee, in my view, in light of uh all the leaking, but that's a different issue for a different day.
Devin Nunesk, CEO of Truth Social.
Thanks for being with us.
We appreciate it.
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Join us every Tuesday and Thursday.
Normally, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Ben Ferguson, and I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So Dell, a verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.