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Mike Lee - May 5th, Hour 2
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Eight hundred nine four one.
Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, we've said on this show, we are not going to take the bait, be distracted.
Focus singularly on on the one issue.
Now, Democrats are clinging to like it's a lifeline that somehow we finally found the issue that will save us in 2022.
That does not mitigate the disastrous economy, the record inflation, a 40 year high, the highest prices we've ever paid for a gallon of gasoline, thus increasing the price of every single product at every single store that we go to.
Um also resulting in higher heating and cooling costs.
Um we're not gonna negate or forget the fact that our borders are an absolute disaster.
The economic policies are a disaster.
Uh Joe Biden giving up energy independence a disaster on every level, national security.
It's hurting our economy, contributing greatly to the 40 year high of inflation, and we're not gonna forget that Joe Biden is not stepped up enough to help Ukraine actually beat Putin and win the war.
Now, because that they they only want to focus now or ever talk about abortion.
Now, a couple of things that they're not going to tell you, um, is the late Justice Ruth Beta Ginsburg, uh, once all but predicted Roe v.
Wade would be overturned because it was on shaky legal grounds.
Uh they're not gonna tell you for decades Joe Biden himself wanted Roe versus Wade tossed out in the 70s, then Senator Biden stated, quote, I don't like the Supreme Court decision on abortion.
I think it went too far.
I don't think that a woman has the sole right to say what should happen to her body.
We said that.
In the eighties, Biden actually supported a constitutional amendment banning Roe versus Wade and letting the states decide abortion law.
In other words, uh agreeing with me and many other constitutional scholars that this is bad law and that it will be up to the states.
Now, uh pretty soon what Americans are gonna figure out is abortion if oh Roe is overturned and Casey's overturned, that's not gonna outlaw abortion in America.
States will decide.
And sixty-seven percent of the American people believe in restrictions on abortion.
So, you know, it's different states will have different laws, liberal states will have very liberal laws.
It's it's not that not that difficult to figure out.
Uh the comment was pretty telling uh what yesterday, Biden referring to Roe v.
Wade as the ability to abort a child.
He didn't say a fetus, he didn't say a clump of cells, he said a child.
Jen Saki had no answer for Peter Ducey on that one.
One of the smartest guys on the Constitution, of course we have the great one, Mark Levin, uh, but in the Senate is Senator Mike Lee of Utah.
And I want to go over some of the nuances of this so everybody understands, but again, this is not going to be the the defining issue in this campaign for the midterms.
Um, and we're glad to have him.
He's written a new book.
It'll be coming out in less than a month.
If you want to get a first edition copy, you can go to Amazon.com.
Uh we'll put a link up on Hannity.com, soon to be in bookstores everywhere.
Uh Saving Nine, the fight against the left's audacious plan to pack the Supreme Court and destroy American liberty.
Uh Senator Mike Lee, who's up for re election this year, uh, with our full support.
Senator, welcome back to the show.
Thank you very much, Sean.
It's good to be with you.
I don't even want to get into Mitt Romney because I have a lot to say on that topic, and maybe it's not politically that good for you for me to speak out about it, but let's stay focused on this.
Why do why is Roe bad law from a constitutional perspective?
In layman's terms, I would argue that it created a right that was never enumerated in the Constitution or the intent of the framers.
Yes, that's perfectly well said.
I would add here that it's not just that it wasn't enumerated in the Constitution.
Expressly or implicitly has anything to do with it.
And so the Constitution, the original Constitution made clear and made even more clear by the Tenth Amendment, reveals that that's the sort of thing that's not to be decided by federal judges, but by the people's elected lawmakers, typically in their respective states.
That's what I'm saying.
Why don't you give us a Cliff Notes version of the Tenth Amendment so people understand what it means to bring things back to the states?
Sure.
The Tenth Amendment says that powers that are not reserved for the federal government and powers that are not specifically prohibited by the Constitution for the states to exercise are reserved to the states respectively or to the people.
When you reserve power to the states, you're reserving it for the people.
It sets the default proposition that most laws are state laws.
Most laws are not federal laws.
And so what the Supreme Court did in Roe v.
Wade is it said the people, the unwashed masses, the peasants, is this judicial oligarchy, Might have seen all of us.
They can't make their own decision with regard to how to protect unborn human life.
We're going to take that decision away from them.
And we're going to pretend that it's in the Constitution.
We've been pretending for 48 years as a country because they've asked us to do it.
And so that's why Justice Alito's opinion is absolutely right.
And I hope and pray that it does become the opinion of the court, the majority opinion.
Because Roe vs.
Wade was wrong, and it needs to be overturned.
Don't you don't you think it's likely that this is pretty revealing that that's where the court is headed?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And I think that's also one of the reasons why there's such an attempt to denigrate, demonize, and delegitimize the Supreme Court right now by some of my colleagues.
And I think it's also one of the reasons why this opinion was leaked.
Is they know Justice Alito was right.
They know Justice Alito's opinion is probably going to get a majority.
And that scares them to death.
I mean, just look at Elizabeth Warren, one of my colleagues.
She's freaking out uh about this.
And she's uh long been trying to demonize and delegitimize the court, even leading up to this decision.
She's been working on the case.
Let me let me play a little bit of Elizabeth Warren just to get let people know exactly what you're talking about.
This is her.
We can put that vote on the floor now.
We can get everybody on record on where they stand on Roe versus Wade, where they stand on a woman's right to an abortion after she's been raped, where they stand on the right to an abortion for a 14-year-old who's been the victim of abuse, where they stand on the right to an abortion for some woman who can't support the children she has and is desperately trying to keep her family together.
Let's get them on the record voting on that.
And if we don't have enough votes to pass it now, we get everybody on the record and then we take that to the public in November.
We've got less than 200 days until election day, Roe vs.
Wade in that sense is on the ballot.
This is what the Republicans have been working toward this day for decades.
They have been out there plotting, terribly cultivating these Supreme Court justices, so they could have a majority on the bench who would accomplish something that the majority of Americans do not want.
We have a right dismissal.
We've heard enough of the extremes and I think you're right about this, and I think your book is going to be the made perhaps more timely than you ever dreamed of or imagine.
Um because this effort to pack the Supreme Court, they've been trying since Joe Biden got in the White House, and I'm no doubt that they're going to continue now to use Roe as a the mechanism to trigger a real debate on this.
Where do you think this ends up?
Yeah, I think you're exactly right, Sean.
I I they they've been plotting uh to do this very sort of thing while accusing us of being the plotters.
Think about it this way, Sean.
Republicans have been out in the open for 48 years, nearly a half century, being opposed to Roe vs.
Wade because it was wrong.
So to describe this as a plot as if it were uh a secret conspiracy is insane.
That's the worst kept secret in the world because Roe was in fact wrong.
They are the plotters.
They are plotting already to pack the Supreme Court of the United States.
She's been actively engaged in this for months.
And you're right.
My book, Saving Nine, uh available now for pre-order.
Uh comes out June 7th, but it's available right now for pre-order on Amazon and elsewhere.
But in Saving Nine, I explained why this is happening.
I predicted about a year and a half ago that this was possibly going to be in the works.
I suspected that they might try to do it.
And that scared me to death.
That's why I started writing this book.
And and you're right.
It's coming out on a perfect time.
So uh people want to pre-order a copy of Saving Nine right now so that they can find out what the arguments are going to be that will be raised.
What happened the last time Democrats tried to do this to the Supreme Court in 1937?
I'll give you a hint.
They they failed legislatively, but it left a bad mark on the Supreme Court, one that has adversely affected the American people ever since then.
We cannot let this happen again, Sean.
We cannot let Elizabeth Warren destroy the fabric of our country and undermine the foundations of our Constitution.
That's what they're trying to do by packing the Supreme Court, and that's why I wrote Saving Nine.
So it's very interesting how the left has always acted.
Um things that they'd never get accomplished at the ballot box by convincing voters that it's the right thing to do and vote for them and and really be truthful about what their their true intentions are.
What they'd never get done legislatively, they've always looked to the courts and judicial activism and justices that legislate from the bench as a means of not only circumventing coequal branches of government and separation of powers, but but it's it's their way by exec by judicial fiat to impose these things on the American people.
Now, we both know that if Roe is overturned, abortion will be legal probably in every state in the Union.
I don't know of a state that will outlaw it completely, do you?
No, I don't.
And that's the point.
You would think by listening to them, many of them, including her, have made statements suggesting that the Supreme Court had the power and the inclination to immediately criminalize abortion in all cases in every state in all circumstances.
None of that is true.
All it did was to say the people get to decide this through their elected lawmakers.
They're scared of that, Sean.
They can't handle that.
And that's exactly why they have to delegitimize the court.
That's also why they accuse us of doing the very same thing that they're doing, politics the court.
Look what happens when Republicans get their way with nominees on the Supreme Court.
We decide cases according to the Constitution.
When they do it their way, they veer around the Constitution, falsely invoking it, reading things into the Constitution that aren't there, and it politicizes the court.
Now they're trying to politicize it again by saying we have to pack it.
If you read Elizabeth Warren's statement back in December, just a few months ago, explaining why she wanted to pack the Supreme Court of the United States.
She says we need to pack it because we don't like the political direction in which Republicans are trying to take it.
That's the irony.
That's the hypocrisy that I expose in saving nine.
All right, quick break right back.
We'll continue more with Senator Mike Lee.
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All right, we continue.
Senator Mike Lee of Utah, by the way, we're supporting his victory today.
Come this November.
I know he's loved in Utah.
He has a new book out.
If you want a first edition copy, you can go to Amazon.com Hannity.com.
It's called Saving Nine, the fight against the Left's Audacious Plan to Pack the Supreme Court and destroy American Liberty.
So when the Progressives under President Woodrow Wilson threatened the legitimacy of the Supreme Court that they didn't agree with, when FDR nearly succeeded in packing the court, what was it, 1937, 1938, somewhere around there?
A bid to force through the most radical parts of his New Deal agenda.
You know, it it wasn't successful.
And where do you see this ending up ultimately?
Because maybe in the minds of some people, they don't really understand the real deep, significant importance of the judicial branch of government when you have a dispute between the executive branch, legislative branch, uh, or other constitutional issues.
That's where the courts, you know, play their most vital role.
So, in other words, where does this end?
Will people be able to absorb the how profound that would be?
I hope so.
And that's why I wrote saving nine.
I want people to be able to absorb how profound, how destructive, how devastating this will be.
Now, if it succeeds as a legislative matter, it will be absolutely disastrous.
Because it'll turn the court away from being an adjudicative body, an independent judicial body.
It'll turn into a political body.
One that will eventually become huge, by the way, resembling the intergalactic senate in Star Wars, because it'll be a one-way ratchet.
Uh Democrats add four here.
Republicans next time they have the chance, add four there, and it continues to grow inexorably.
But even if it fails legislatively, it still will be a disaster.
I explained why when FDR tried this in 1937, even though it failed, it intimidated, it threatened, it delegitimized, it harassed Supreme Court justices to the point that they changed their jurisprudence.
And I explained in the book what happened as a result of that.
It hasn't been pretty.
Yeah, it really isn't.
Anyway, I look forward to it.
Um we look forward also to your victory in November.
Um, and we wish you the best.
You're you are a needed uh voice that clings to the Constitution and the rule of law, and and one of the few that actually has that deep dividing knowledge and reverence for our Constitution.
Anyway, uh Senator Mike Leah, Utah, his new book coming out in June, and it's called Saving Nine, the fight against the Left's Audacious Plan to Pack the Supreme Court and destroy American Liberty.
Uh, Amazon.com, if you want a first edition copy, we have a link up on Hannity.com.
And Senator, always great to have you.
Thank you for being with us.
Thank you, Sean.
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Bethany is in the great state of Tennessee.
Where in Tennessee are you, Bethany?
I am.
Hi, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
How are you?
I'm good.
Had some uh you you probably don't remember me.
You by the way, wait, where in where in uh Tennessee are you?
Um I'm in Murfreesboro, so just south of Nashville.
Love it.
Great area.
But uh yeah, Robbie Starbuck, I know has been on your show.
My husband hopefully is gonna be working security for him soon for something.
He's officer.
Yeah, great guy.
But anyway, um I you spoke to me about twenty years ago when I was in high school.
I called into the show about my high school who's extremely liberal, and uh they had changed the name of uh uh uh class to like our country's history because they didn't want America in it, something like that.
It was a long time ago.
But I kind of wanted to follow up with you on that because at that time I was like fifteen or sixteen, I'm thirty-four, mom of three now, and I by the way, thank you for staying with us that long.
We really appreciate it.
Oh my god.
This seriously, it's an honor to even talk to you.
So thank you for taking my call.
But um my Well I'm curious, what did I tell you at the time, and and then I want you to tell your story.
Sure.
Well, basically you were just really encouraging to me, and you were just you know, telling me that I had a good future ahead of me and that to stay the course and basically not listen to the liberal pukes that I was dealing with in my high school.
Um it was a private school.
Sounds like me.
Go ahead.
Yeah, pretty much.
It was horrible.
And I was made fun of constantly, which made me even more determined to, you know, make sure that I, you know, stayed the course because I knew that their persecution of me was just meant that I was doing the right thing.
And I was reading your book, Let Freedom Ring, which my uncle back in New York had had given to me or told me about, and I uh made it had to do an art project in this very liberal teacher's class, and I she wouldn't accept it because I used your quote on my art project about entrusting the education of our children to people who loathe and ne are you know loathe and hate our nation.
And um I used it in the form of the Twin Towers with the American flag behind it.
And uh I was so excited about it and and I loved the quote.
It really stuck out to me.
And yeah, she wouldn't take it because she said it was hate speech.
But you got you gotta be kidding me.
And it I'm dead serious, sir.
You know first of all, I want to give you props on something.
You call me when you're fifteen, sixteen years old.
Yes, one of the hardest things for kids that age is everybody wants to be accepted.
Um there's a heavy, heavy pressure on conformity.
Now, liberals like to talk about they give lip service to um individuality, except if you're a conservative, then of course you know, all bets are off, and any name that they want to call you is free.
Uh it's it's open season, right?
Uh there's total hypocrisy on it.
You know, yes.
But every young person wants to be accepted.
Nobody wants to be ostracized.
It's I guess part of the social construct and and very, very normal.
There's nothing abnormal about it.
Right.
But it in life, and and mo most times kids your age at that age don't get it.
The pressure's just too great, and they're not strong enough yet mentally, spiritually, emotionally, to stand up and not care what other people think.
In this life, if you they were horrible to me.
It was hard.
But you know what?
I knew better.
And I knew, especially as a Christian, and somebody who knew that, you know, take up your cross and follow.
And somebody knew that if you just said if they're gonna persecute me, they're gonna persecute you.
So if they're a good thing.
The servant is not above the servant is not above the master.
What they did to him, that's all true.
So tell me now, um, your mom.
How old are your kids?
Um, I have newborn twins, uh, twin boys.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
Uh January thirty first.
I had twins, and then I have a three-year-old boy.
Um, and I'm married to a retired police officer.
We're actually from Saratoga Springs, New York.
Um wow.
So we moved down here, and my dad's good for you.
By the way, isn't it is isn't it a bit of a culture shock?
It was for me.
Having been raised in New York, but uh in my heart, I'm I'm I'm from the South.
I'm a Southerner.
Yes, ma'am, no ma'am, yes, sir, no, sir.
I mean, I'm I got those same old fashioned values.
Um my only fear about people from states like New York, New Jersey, 59% of people in New Jersey want to get out.
A poll that came out in the last week and a half.
Yeah, I don't blame them.
Just j just don't bring your dumb voting patterns with you.
Because then you're gonna ruin the state that you're going to and turn it into the state you've abandoned.
Correct.
And yes, and that's how like I was like we were living in Texas for a few years, and we said, Don't California my Texas because people were moving there in droves for the same reason.
You know, you look at Nancy Pelosi's district.
Yeah, you know, you want to come here and vote that way, you're gonna end up in a homeless encampment just like you voted out of your left, you know, that you left.
So anyway, uh I know.
So your life otherwise is good.
You got three beautiful children, you're gonna have a very busy life.
And the only advice uh I I'm I'm the last person to give advice on on this sort of thing.
Um but um I found that as my kids got older they needed me more.
Does that make sense?
Like they they needed well when they were young, they weren't really getting in trouble.
You know, but when you when they get to those teenage years, I've really had to hone in on where they were, who they were with, what they were doing.
They're not perfect kids, but they're good kids.
Yeah.
And and you you're gonna go through the fear that every parent has, and that is, okay, sex, drugs, drinking, all of the above, and and worry about it all, and you and you're gonna have to have those tough conversations with your kids.
And the sad part is about the school system is here you're instilling values in children, and they feel they have the right there.
There are children, Joe Biden said last week.
No, they're not.
Uh, they happen to have mommies and daddies, they're not potted plants.
Right.
That's why I'm not sending my kids to public school.
Yeah, I mean, then you know, for most parents, you know, for too many parents that's just not an option.
It's expensive.
My my parents couldn't afford it, but they sent all four of their kids to Catholic schools for twelve years.
Wow.
And then well, m one of my sisters might have graduated a year early, so she went to a public school for the last year.
But um it's but it's the most challenging and in the end the most rewarding.
You raise those kids with your values, your belief in God, faith, family, country, and I don't think you can go wrong.
Life is hard.
You gotta accept that fact.
We all get hit.
It's not a matter of how hard you get hit, it's a matter of how hard you get can get hit and keep moving forward, as Rocky says famously to his son in the Lazarki movie.
That's what winning is all about.
So you're gonna get nothing's gonna hit as hard as life.
But you're gonna be the one, you're gonna be the rock that guides those children through the troubled waters of a culture gone nuts.
And hopefully they'll be they'll be like you, a positive force for change uh in their future, like apparently your dad was for you.
Look, a four probably forcing you to listen to talk radio.
I'm I I don't know many fifteen, sixteen-year-olds I was listening to it, but many people that age don't listen to talk radio, right?
That's true.
I was we were listening to you, you know, we were listening to when you were on Hannity and Combs, I was listening to Rush Limbaugh, Savage Nation, all of those things.
And I actually loved it because I learned so much from you, and I I heard you take speaking to different people, and I'm like, this guy's on point.
He knows what he's talking about.
I want I could learn something from him.
And then I got your Led Freedom Ring book, and I was like, I ate it up, and that's why, you know, my Well tell you what, I'm gonna send you an autograph copy for Mother's Day of my book Live Free or Die.
Um they're assigned copies if you want to order for any any friend or mom, maybe for Mother's Day.
You can still get it on time.
Um Bethany, God bless you.
God bless your your kids, all three of them, the two new twins, and we appreciate you sticking with us all those time and and call back again.
We'd love to hear from you.
I would thank you so much, sir.
I appreciate you.
Thanks again.
Thank you too.
Darlene is in New Jersey.
What's up, Darlene?
How are you?
Hi, Sean.
Thank you so much for taking my call.
Darlene, did you know that fifty-nine percent of your fellow New Joysians wanna leave New Jersey?
Fifty-nine percent.
Wow.
Uh, I believe it.
I my mother just bought a house in Pennsylvania, so we're almost on the way.
But I drive Grubhub in um northern New Jersey, and I stay with my boyfriend down here in Caldwell, you know, during the week, and then I go up to Pennsylvania on the weekends.
So it's kinda cool.
That's pretty good.
Now, do you like d being a grub hub driver?
Now I I use Uber Eats, but I use it very rarely because I cook all my own food.
Um I try to cook all my own food uh also, and yes, I do like it.
I just got the new Fort Maverick, so I'm getting about 45 miles for the gallon.
Wow.
Oh, that's smart, because then that saves you money.
Um great idea.
Now do you find people are generous or a lot of people cheapskates?
Um it's gotten wor it's gotten less and less generous because they're adding more and more fees.
So the tips are not so good, and the like the amount the amount of time I have to drive to and from places for like six dollar order has gotten ridiculous.
Oh boy.
Um I never tip less than the like um I'll I might tip twenty bucks on I'll pay more for the fo for the delivery person than I do for the food.
So you gotta send you gotta ask up asked for me, I'll drop off anything.
The problem is I'm a little far.
I'd have to pay you hundreds of dollars in tips for that one.
But uh anyway, and what else is tell me more about it?
Regular people that I assume you talk to them.
What are they telling you every day?
That's what I call to tell you about because I've noticed the shift.
I'm getting gas every single day.
I'm at all different kinds of gas stations all around northern New Jersey, and I am totally shocked at all of the attendance at the gas stations or people in the restaurants, or even people at the grocery store now, who are totally upset about the gas prices.
And I'm noticing more and more minorities um who are voicing their absolute disgust for Biden.
And how, you know, they they might not have liked Trump's rhetoric, but you know, now they they're just miserable.
I mean, this is just miserable.
The average family household, because of Biden inflation, Biden gas hikes is paying uh uh a Biden inflation tax averaging per household fifty two hundred to fifty seven hundred dollars on average per household.
That's how bad it is in real terms, real money.
Now I I'm gonna make a I'm gonna I'm let me venture a guess too.
I'm betting where in the past maybe people you know, purchase their food from well either restaurants or maybe a step up from a pizza place or McDonald's.
Let me venture a guess that more people are ordering the cheaper fast food type of places.
Am I right or wrong?
Yes.
I I do see that also, yes.
They hold up.
Because they can't afford the more expensive food and they gotta cut back somewhere, right?
Well, I think they're cut they're definitely cutting back on chipping, I can tell you, because I've been doing this about a year and a half now.
And um I have noticed a steady decline in tipping.
So they're ordering some Wendy's and then they're only tipping like a dollar or two.
Sometimes I can d I might drive like, you know, six, seven miles to deliver something.
Oh, that's insane.
I mean, I look folks, you gotta if you're gonna order a service and you know that the person that's delivering that food you're dying to get and too lazy to go out and get yourself.
You know, you you gotta take care of the folks.
You gotta take care of the drivers.
They make it this is how they make their living.
Uh they're not making it in salary, they make it in tips.
And it's uh look, I've always tried to be a very generous when it comes to tipping only because that's my background.
And I just urge people, if you can't if you can't afford the tip, don't order the food.
It it at that point.
But um listen, Darlene, God bless you.
Stay in touch with us and I hope I hope I hope customers tell you that uh we're gonna tip you more because I heard Sean Hannity say that we should do that, okay?
Thank you, Sean.
You're a sweetheart.
Hang on, hang in there, Darlene.
Thanks for what you do.
I've I've had craving nights and I'll like break down my diet, and like I need a quarter pound of cheese, French fries and a Coke.
And I've used Uber Eats.
Look at Linda.
She still has never bought her poor son a a happy meal.
How miserable this poor Kid must be.
Can we tell the audience the very funny story when you texted me?
You're coming in the studio, and you, you know, you're on this you know diet now where you eat things that I typically would eat, so it's super weird.
And you text me on the way in.
Yes, it is.
I eat meat, I eat protein, I eat eggs, spinach.
Yeah, but you're eating salad.
You never ate salad, you never eat spinach.
You never looked at kale or cauliflower.
Please, you don't even know what it was.
I I can occasionally do cauliflower and broccoli.
I don't love it, but I do it.
But all that to say, I gotta soak it in avocado oil, though.
That's what I cook in.
I don't think you're supposed to soak anything in oil.
That sounds really gross, but avocado is a very healthy oil.
Um, fully aware that I don't think you're supposed to soak in it.
I think you use it as like.
Uh-huh.
Well, anyways, I'm gonna tell my story here because it's funny.
You come in in the studio and you're like, hey Lynn, you know what?
Instead of doing like salads and stuff today, could you order me?
And it was like the most ridiculous order of like pastrami and corn beef and fries, and I wrote you back.
I'm like, who is this?
I don't know who this is.
Who is this that's texting me?
I do have a week.
Like you had that day.
Yeah, I don't know.
I must have been having a craving.
But I like corned beef because I love the fat.
I know, I've seen you eat it.
It's disgusting.
So delicious.
So delicious.
I make my own corned beef.
It's phenomenal.
You're actually a very good cook.
I'm gonna be very honest.
You are a very, very good cook.
Well, thank you.
I appreciate it.
That was very nice of you to say.
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