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April 29, 2022 - Sean Hannity Show
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Project Veritas Exposes Twitter - April 29th, Hour 3
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Sean, you want to be a part of the program?
Well, our friends at Project Veritas have struck again.
James O'Keefe, CEO, founder, now has recently just now released tapes, video exposing Twitter employees discussing the Elon Musk buyout of the company.
I don't know how this guy does this.
I don't ever want James O'Keefe to be my enemy.
I mean, he'll figure out a way to take me someplace somehow.
By the way, not that I have any privacy anyway.
The whole world reads my phone every day, it seems, but that's a different story for a different day.
Anyway, let's play James O'Keefe.
These are Twitter insiders and some of the audio of their all-hands meeting after Elon Musk.
It was announced that he was buying Twitter.
How do the board and Mr. Musk plan on dealing with a mass exodus, considering the acquisition is by a person with questionable ethics?
The question of attrition.
You know, as Perag stated, you know, one of the themes of today is continuity and ensuring that Perag and this leadership team continues to operate the business successfully on behalf of our users, on behalf of our customers.
And that has obviously been a big topic of discussion at the board.
And as I mentioned, an area that is important to Elon Musk as well, because of the importance of Twitter as a service.
With no board in place, who will keep Elon accountable and how?
Elon made it clear in public that a large part of the reason he bought the platform was because of our moderation policies and disagreements in how we deal with health.
This puts Twitter service and trust and safety, as well as anybody who cares about health on the platform, in a very difficult position.
Twitter service, the role of our policies, and the capabilities we've built around content moderation are fundamental to keeping Twitter safe and growing.
I believe that there is a lot of work we have to do to continue making that better.
Sometimes that means more thoughtful moderation to best gain perspective on this.
As I said earlier, we'll find ways to bring Elon for a Q ⁇ A with all of you to understand better what his vision for the future of Twitter might look like.
I love the fact that the woke mob at Twitter is in a complete meltdown.
If I was Elon Musk, I'm not.
I'm not as smart as him.
I think he sold his first company when he was 12 years old.
Not bad.
I think I'd get rid of all of them.
I'd fire each and every one of them.
Otherwise, he's going to have his own deep state within Twitter of all these woke leftists that are going to try and undermine real freedom of speech, which they don't seem to be able to handle.
They're the very people that shadow banned conservatives, suspended conservatives, even permanently banned people like Donald Trump and many other people.
Anyway, James O'Keefe is with us, CEO, founder, Project Veritas.
This might be the funniest one I've ever heard.
This is artwork here.
Well, Sean, you know, truth is stranger than fiction.
This is a 45-minute audio recording.
Again, Brett Taylor, Twitter board chair, CEO, and a woman named Leslie Burland, who's the chief marketing officer fielding questions from woke Twitter staff, upset, broken up about this.
And you can hear the full exchange, Sean.
And what's ironic about this story, Sean, is that other journalists had this audio, but nobody published it except me.
In fact, we believe CNN and Business Insider had it.
They just quoted it because obviously the recordings are more powerful than hearsay evidence.
You know, so you're listening to all of this.
There's like a meltdown.
And Musk even addressed this.
And it seems to me that they fear real freedom here.
And this goes to the heart, I think, of where leftists are.
I mean, I don't know if you watched any of the coverage on Fake News CNN or MSDNC.
And they're literally saying, James, what's the result of this going to be?
Is it possible that politicians' voices are going to be silenced?
This is a disaster.
And I'm like, what universe have you been living in?
Because that's already been happening.
But you see, it's not been liberal voices canceled.
It's not even been the Ayatollah's in Iran canceled.
It's only been conservative voices canceled.
So it's so obvious that they're so oblivious to the double standard and rank hypocrisy that is the essence of who they are.
Yeah, Sean, I mean, it's like I call it, you said double standards.
I call it double think, George Orwell's concept of double think, which is to hold two contradictory beliefs in one's mind and believe them at the same time.
And the CEO of Twitter here on this phone call says, quote, the role of our policies and the capabilities we've built around content moderation are fundamental to keeping Twitter safe and growing.
So he's sort of defending the policies there.
But this is a broader issue.
As you all may or may not know, I'm banned on Twitter.
Project Veritas is banned on Twitter for reporting accurate things.
So it comes down to is truthful information, which they would say harms people.
This is center to the whole issue that we're having.
It's not just people who are engaging in misinformation.
Now it's truthful information, which is what Musk brought up.
He said it's wrong to censor a truthful story.
It's wrong to censor the Biden laptop story.
Project Veritas does reporting where we quote people in their own words, and they think that's harmful.
But it's very, very good that this has come out.
Now, Leslie Burland has responded, Sean, this is Twitter's chief marketing officer, issued a statement in response to me.
And she said, an audio clip of me was leaked, edited, and misrepresented my views.
We don't know what she means by that.
We've released a full 45-minute recording.
So there's another instance, Sean, of double think and double standards.
You know, I wonder, I really would wonder what Elon Musk, now that you've released this, and I'm sure he's going to see it at some point, if not today, or maybe he has seen it already.
I just wonder what Elon Musk is thinking.
You know, when he gets a look at this and he listens to this, because I offered unsolicited advice.
If I was him, I'd get rid of pretty much everybody except maybe essential people that really, really, really believe in free speech.
And for the rest of the people, say, bye-bye.
You know, I would not allow this leftist-woke deep state to remain at Twitter because they already have a cultural mindset that is contrary towards the vision that Elon Musk is laying out.
He even said, he said to my critics, I want to say to you, please stay on Twitter.
And then you'll really understand what freedom of speech is about, inviting people to attack him, inviting people to disagree with him.
He's not afraid of it.
And I thought that was a pretty bold statement on his part.
Well, there's another statement in this recording where Leslie Berland, Twitter's chief marketing officer, is accepting questions from the Twitter deep state, as you call it, Twitter administrative state.
And she says, quote, with no board in place, who will keep Elon Musk accountable?
These are lower employees asking how they're going to hold their owner accountable, which is an interesting dynamic.
But Twitter is effectively, you know, they've become the public town square.
What's remarkable is how powerful they clearly are to the regime.
And it's effectively a utility.
That's basically what it's become.
But we get some fascinating insight through these recordings.
I thought that accountability line was pretty interesting.
And then there's another line about the mass exodus that might be occurring.
And that's an interesting dynamic because I'm not sure that people are going to want to leave Twitter because of how powerful it is.
They're going to kind of want to stay and engage in sabotage.
But Sean, you know that when I do these, I have many more than one recording.
This is just part one.
No, by the way, you always jump the gun on me now because you know I'm going there.
I know you are.
And I always ask, all right, how many installments can we expect about Twitter?
At least another one, possibly two or three.
We have some very shocking things that the, I'm going to use Sean Hannity's term here, the Twitter deep state.
That's your trademark phrase.
We have the Twitter deep state on tape saying some unconscionable things about what they believe, their political philosophy, and what they're doing.
And I really want to hear from Elon directly about this.
If he's listening, I would like to hear, if not based upon this recording, you ain't seen nothing yet.
We're going to show you some of these engineers and some of these mid-level executives at Twitter and what they think and what they believe.
And it is, you know, it is not.
Don't release it on my days off.
I am off on Saturday and Sunday.
I'll be back Monday.
Can you wait till Monday?
Oh, yeah, this will be Monday or Tuesday, a story we do early next week.
You know, I can't wait to see it.
Quick break, right back more with James O'Keefe, CEO, founder Project Veritas, to talk about his newly released video exposing these Twitter employees freaking out that Elon Musk bought the company.
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Hi, James O'Keefe is with us, CEO and founder of Project Veritas.
His latest release, now video exposing Twitter employees discussing Elon Musk and the buyout of their company and them losing their minds.
You know, you do a lot of great work.
You've won now a lot of court cases.
I mean, you have a phenomenal track record in terms of fighting back.
And you got discovery on the New York Times, which is nearly impossible.
And how's that case going?
Well, the New York Times got really upset and appealed it.
And appellate division of New York Supreme Court, it's currently stayed pending an appeal.
They ruled against the New York Times twice because they also printed my private attorney client memos after the FBI raided my home.
The judge ordered them to stop doing that.
They appealed that.
But we're going to win.
We always do because we're in the right.
We have integrity.
We're not interested in a profit as much as we are the discovery process of litigation, Sean.
And actually, an update for you on that end is that Bob Creamer and some of those folks had sued us, including a woman that was accused of being a bird-dogger.
She sued me.
I won a jury verdict three years ago, and the federal judge just ruled that she pay our costs.
A lot of those plaintiffs were organizing to shut me down, including in the email exhibits.
They said they wanted to take out James O'Keefe for good using these lawsuits.
Sounds like the mob wanting to kill you.
Yeah, well, they said these things.
We uncovered them in emails, and all these six big law law firms all came together to represent this little old lady who sued me, and we won, and now they have to pay us.
So it's tough.
It requires an indefatigable persistence, raise a lot of money.
Project Veritas, we're a nonprofit organization, and we appreciate your audience out there supporting us and donating and helping us through this.
You know, it is an amazing thing because you are a true original, but you're a modern-day original.
I mean, this was the thing that really defined and put a show like 60 Minutes on the map.
Or, you know, everybody liked the series to catch a predator, right?
Same thing.
Undercover cameras, these people implicate themselves, and out comes, you know, the reporter to confront them, now outside of the police, ready to arrest them.
And how come when you do it, or somebody with maybe a different political bent or political point of view, they just don't like it when it happens to them?
It's sort of like all of a sudden the idea that a politician might be canceled from Twitter has finally entered the consciousness of all the leftist woke, you know, so-called news organizations in America.
They're not news organizations.
And they can't believe that politicians might be silenced.
And I'm like, well, where were you when Donald Trump lost his platform?
Why didn't you stand up for his right to say whatever he wants?
And if you don't want to read it, don't read it.
And I think more than anything, they probably miss it more than they would ever acknowledge or admit, right?
Well, I think what's changed since the Catch a Predator and all those things in the 70s and 80s and 90s is that now we have a conflict division that's playing out of Twitter about the public's right to know.
It really is that fundamental.
Journalism is about exposing what people ought to know.
And good journalism does, in fact, hurt people.
That was what the Washington Post editor said 40 years ago.
He said, investigative reporter must face the fact that his stories will hurt people.
And now we want to avoid that.
We want to make it about privacy and avoiding harm, avoid dialogue.
It's really a fundamental thing that we have a conflict of visions about.
And that's why they call me right-wing.
There's nothing right-wing about what we're doing.
We're just revealing the truth and the reality of dialogue between people.
So this is a conflict, and Twitter has the most important role.
I know people on the right say we need to have these other platforms, but Twitter has the vast majority of the market share, and they control the means of dissemination.
So I think we're going to even if we're censored, Sean, the stuff we have coming out on Monday, Tuesday, it'll just distribute by proxy.
Your audience will tweet it out, and it'll trend.
We're going to trend on Twitter even though we're banned on Twitter on Monday after you see what these executives at Twitter are going to say.
Oh, I guarantee you they're going to ban all of this.
It's probably going to be the equivalent of the Hunter Biden laptop story because it's about them.
Anyway, James O'Keefe, great work as usual.
Monday or Tuesday, when you come out with your second installment, we'd love to have you back.
And if you have it ready for TV tonight, we'd love to show it.
I know you're still putting it all together.
And just let us know, okay?
Will do, Sean.
Thank you so much.
800-941, Sean, you want to be a part of the program?
How important are fathers?
Sounds like a dumb question.
It's really not.
I'll explain coming up in a minute.
Quick break, right back.
All right, 25 now to the top of the hour.
800-941, Sean, our number, if you want to be a part of the program.
So the issue of education, the issue of kids, been in the news a lot.
I would argue that one of the reasons that Glenn Young, one in the great state of Virginia, the Commonwealth of Virginia, has to do with this issue of education and parenting.
The idea that our government is looking into parents to show up at school board meetings that are adamant about the curriculum that is being taught to their children need to be investigated as possible domestic terrorists.
I mean, it's insane.
And more and more parents are not loving, not liking at all what their kids are being taught.
And they want more parental involvement.
That's what the build down in Florida was all about.
And that is, you know, the parents' rights bill.
You know, why are we teaching kindergartners about gender identity?
How about we teach them the alphabet first?
How about we teach them how to read first?
How about we teach them adding, addition, subtraction first?
And more importantly, why at all do teachers that have a captive audience of children that they're supposed to be educating?
Now, we're failing our kids on a spectacular level on that front.
We spend more per capita on education, per student, on education than any other country in the industrialized world.
And we like come in 40th place.
People were like saying to me yesterday, they couldn't believe what Joe Biden said.
They are, you know, you've heard me say it many times about our children, but it's true.
They're all our children.
And the reason you are the teachers of the year is because you recognize that they're not somebody else's children.
They're like yours when they're in the classroom.
Sorry, Joe.
Those teachers are there to educate kids and we entrust them to educate them.
Reading, writing, math, science, computers.
Let's stick to the fundamentals and the basics.
I mean, it's pretty outrageous.
And then it gets into the whole issue of parenting.
I think now, if schools decide they think that there's a need for kids to get sex education and maybe they want to put forth a curriculum and after school, if parents want their kids to opt in, maybe they're uncomfortable talking about sexuality with their kids.
I don't know why they would be.
They shouldn't be.
But if they are, okay, I understand.
And you want some left-wing radical leftist to indoctrinate your kid into sexuality and anything else, any of these other questions.
How about you opt in after school and then leave the other kids alone and let the parents do their job?
Now, Alec Lace is with us.
He's the author of First Class Fatherhood, and he offers advice and wisdom from high-profile dads.
And he hosts his own podcast that is extraordinarily successful.
I know because I went on his podcast.
It's called First Class Fatherhood, and he's got a brand new book out now.
And by the way, if we ever needed it, this is the time.
The book, again, is First Class Fatherhood, Advice and Wisdom from High Profile Dads.
I got to admit, Alec, I was a little surprised that I was quoted in the book.
Well, listen, it was an honor to have you on the podcast and in the book.
But let me start this way, Sean.
I've been doing a lot of media hits for the book.
The left-wing mainstream media will not allow me to come on, talk about the book, Far First Class Fatherhood, or the fatherless crisis that we got going on.
And one of the emails I received directly from the publicist said from the mainstream media, we will never ever write about or feature a book that has Sean Hannity and Eric Trump in it.
And this is why we got to make First Class Fatherhood a national bestseller, Sean.
It opened up on Amazon, number one in multiple categories, but we got to send the message.
We got to punch back against this fatherless crisis and strengthen these nuclear family units in our country.
Send a message.
Let them know we're serious about this.
Because what is the point, Sean?
What is the point of solving any other social issue in this country if we're not going to strengthen our nuclear families?
You know, look, I think both fathers and mothers are vitally important.
I really do.
And, you know, I know maybe it's going to sound a little old-fashioned.
In many ways, my experience has been, my observation in life has been, is usually moms and dads offer and provide very different roles.
And usually it's complimentary if it works out right.
It's very complimentary.
I will admit that I was a helicopter parent.
And meanwhile, as a kid myself, you know, my parents had no idea where I was at any point of the day or night.
They knew that I worked into the, even when I was 12 years old, I was working in restaurants Friday, Saturday, Sunday night until 2 and 3 in the morning.
And they were happy that I was a worker.
So it's just a very different time.
You don't let your kids out of your sight like we used to, like we were growing up.
But it's the single most important job anyone will ever have in life, isn't it?
100%.
And although the role of the father has changed over time, it's no less important, Sean.
And just I was like you, I mean, back in the day, if I ever threw a brick through a window, I would rather the police catch me before my father ever got me.
That threat of, hey, wait till your father gets home was a real threat.
And a lot of kids that are growing up without a father in the home today, they don't have that threat.
We see the crime levels rising all over the country and so much of it, the teenage pregnancy, teenage drug use.
Governor DeSantis pointed this out down in Florida with his new fatherhood bill.
I pray to God more states will follow through with that.
But he pointed out all those statistics, Sean.
They are devastating our society.
We've got to get more men involved.
And listen, the family court system ain't doing no justice either.
It is pushing so many good dads out of their kids' lives who are fighting.
They're getting financially strapped.
They're getting humiliated just to try to fight for a piece of time with their children.
So something's got to be done there.
And we've got to get dad to get back into their kids' lives.
You know, it's such an important thing, even if you do little things with your kids.
And the problem for most dads, I find, is, you know, men, let's go back to toxic masculinity here because that's how this will be interpreted by some people.
You know, but you go back, I feel as a father that it's my responsibility to take care of my kids and provide for my kids and my family.
And I don't know, maybe that's the hunter-gatherer in me.
But I do know that most dads that I know in my life feel the same way.
And they always have this pressure in the back of their mind.
Are they saving enough money for college?
Are they providing their kids with the best education?
Are they getting their kids to church often enough?
Do they talk about God often enough?
You know, are they instilling the right values in their kids?
You know, when do you push?
When do you not push?
What's the best way to punish kids if they act up?
You know, if they tell you a lie and you know they're lying.
I used to tell my kids, stop insulting my intelligence.
You're not good at it.
And even to this day, they can't pull it off on their dad.
I'm too streetwise for them.
But anyway, you know, what do we do without, you know, good moms and dads, people that are dedicated to raising the best children we can with the idea that they're really God's children.
And the word education means to bring forth from within.
That means that God put talent in them.
How do we bring it out of them?
Well, Sean, we've taken our heavenly father out of society.
We've taken the father out of the home.
So that's why we're seeing kindergarten kids being taught about sexual orientation in school.
I mean, it's disgraceful what's happened, but when you pull the family units apart, they have a direct line right to your kids.
And becoming a father, Sean, you know, listen, it makes you a better man.
It makes you a better person.
One of the dads in First Class Fatherhood, the book and I had on the podcast was Dana White, the UFC president.
And he said, you know, everyone asks him about his legacy.
But he said, at the end of the day, when life's over and I'm laying there in that box, the only legacy, the only thing that truly matters is what my kids are going to get up there and say about me.
That's the only legacy that really matters, Sean, at the end of the day.
Dana White, who I love the most, give me some of the best examples of advice other people gave you for the book.
I mean, I was flattered that you even put me in there, but tell me more about what other people said that really struck you or stuck out to you.
Well, one thing as far as when it comes to balancing your life, Kurt Warner, the Super Bowl MVP, they just did a movie about his life story.
He said he learned a long time ago that balance doesn't necessarily mean equal, equal, where you can't give eight hours a day to your wife, eight hours a day to your job, and eight hours a day to your kids.
But when you're at your job, you have to be 100% there at your job.
A lot of times we're at the job, Sean, and our mind is at home with our family and the bills and the house and the dog.
And then when we're home with the family having dinner, our mind is at the job and all the things we got to do there.
So we got to stay present and stay focused.
So Kurt Warner, I think, nailed it with that.
But so many other ones like Marcus Lattrell, the lone survivor, he talked about don't be afraid to learn from other dads.
Don't be afraid to listen to podcasts like First Class Fatherhood or pick up the book First Class Fatherhood and listen to other dads.
Guys have been there before you.
Success leaves a blueprint.
And no matter what stage you are in your life, if you're a new dad, about to be father, if you're a stepdad, a single dad, you adopted a kid, everything's covered in the book, Sean.
So somebody has been there.
Someone's done this before you.
You can always look and learn.
Take something that you want from them and leave the rest.
You know, one of the things that I do for my staff, and I felt if I made one mistake, I probably was on the road too much when my kids, especially when they were young.
And then I made a very conscious decision to get off the road.
And then I was with them every weekend because of my work hours.
It was impossible for me.
I do a radio show when they're out of school and doing their homework and eating dinner.
And by the time I would get home, hopefully they'd be asleep.
If they were awake, it was usually a problem.
And I don't regret working hard because I was doing it to share everything I have with them, which is what I think you're supposed to do.
But then when I made the decision to free up my weekends, it was, I think, one of the best decisions of my life.
For example, I'll look at Linda.
Linda is free to work from home any day she wants.
Linda, is that true or false?
It is indeed.
And anybody on my staff that has a new child, I always, if there's any way possible, I let them work remote because look, I can find out, I know in seconds if somebody's doing their job or not.
It's not even complicated to figure out if they're really focused on doing their work or not doing their work, but if they need to be home with their young children, I want them home with their young children, and I try to facilitate that.
Yeah, it's so important, Sean.
I'll tell you, well, one thing that I do stress in the book, First Class Fatherhood, a lot is I really call on all dads to become ambassadors for fatherhood.
I really think that we need to encourage the about-to-be dads.
We need to encourage our young dads.
Too many dads jump on this bandwagon of the doom and gloom, and they're warning these new guys, oh, just wait until you don't get any sleep.
Just wait till you have no sex life anymore.
Just wait till you have no social life.
And I say, stop doing that.
You don't need to scare these guys.
Tell them the truth about the better man you've become.
Well, there's a little bit of truth to some of what you just said, but I'm not going down that road.
But look, it's the toughest job you're ever going to have.
It also can be at times the most frustrating, but also the most rewarding.
There's nothing, you know, my son pulled something off this week that was just really dazzled me.
And I couldn't have been more proud of him.
My daughter also dazzles me on a regular basis.
I'm amazed at how independent they are.
And I wanted to make them independent.
And even though I had this helicopter protective barrier around them, they didn't really know what I was doing.
You know, if they weren't with me, maybe they had their tutors or their study session or whatever it happened to be.
And I got them both into sports, which took up a lot of their time.
And it was a year-round sport, which I liked.
This way, they weren't hanging out with the dopey friends every day.
Because I think that's where a lot of trouble in my life came from hanging out in the streets with my buddies.
And usually there was never any adult supervision.
And, you know, I became fairly incorrigible.
And I'd have to admit things that I really wouldn't want to admit that I did as a kid that I regret.
Well, Sean, I remember having this conversation with you on the podcast when he came on.
And if you remember, I'm a recovering alcoholic myself, an addict, and it's something that I really worry about with my kids.
I know you talked about it with your kids.
And, you know, my father died from cirrhosis.
I just lost one of my brothers two weeks ago.
The day before the book launched, my brother died of cirrhosis of the liver.
So alcohol has destroyed so much of my family, and it's a serious thing with me.
There's plenty of dads that I interviewed on the podcast and in the book that are recoverers that talk about their experience with it.
So that's in there as well.
It's a serious thing.
You know what I mean?
More people under 65 years old died from alcohol, Sean, last year than from COVID-19.
Alcohol is a serious issue.
It's not talked about enough, but we look at it as such a joyful, celebratory thing.
It's taking and just crushing so many lives in this country.
That fentanyl, opioids, it's all garbage.
Anyway, Alec Lace, check out his brand new book.
It's called First Class Fatherhood: Advice and Wisdom from High Profile Dads.
He also hosts his own podcast, First Class Fatherhood.
And we'll put a link on Hannity.com.
You can get the book in bookstores everywhere, Amazon.com, Hannity.com.
And good to catch up with you, Alec.
Thanks so much.
I appreciate the shout out.
I was a little surprised, but I was very grateful.
Thank you, sir.
Sean, you're a first-class father all the way.
Thanks for having me on.
God bless you.
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