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April 23, 2021 - Sean Hannity Show
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Lt. Governor Mark Robinson on Protecting Voting Rights

Mark Robinson, the Lt. Governor of North Carolina gave a terrific speech regarding voting rights before the House Judiciary Subcommittee, addressing the left’s claims that requesting identification is racist.The Sean Hannity Show is on weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thank you for being with us.
I hope you'll join us.
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We've got a lot happening that we got to talk about.
What's happening?
Big picture.
We can talk about a lot of things.
Look at what's happening.
This climate agenda of Biden, this new green deal insanity, Paris climate accords that punishes America and China and India, far bigger polluters when it comes to emissions.
They're viewed as developing countries and pay the low rates.
Are you kidding me?
Um it's pretty unbelievable.
Foreign policy.
Look what the RAND deal is back.
We have Russia, hostile regime, hostile actor, Putin.
Yeah, now he's showing more territorial ambitions with Ukraine.
What's Joe gonna do?
China now, their territorial ambitions, threatening Hong Kong, Taiwan, and building islands for their military.
And then lecturing the United States of America and then Joe's team apologizing for America on the issue of human rights when they meet in Alaska, the communist Chinese, you know, we're watching genocide on poll in our time.
It's so sad.
It's so sad.
It's and it's something that we better we better start paying attention.
I hope all of you will take up the challenge and I want to deputize anybody and everybody we can.
That this country, we're headed down a really bad road.
The power grab we're watching before us.
Yeah, we're gonna pack the courts.
We're gonna end the legislative filibuster, DC statehood, Puerto Rico statehood, all things he said he was not gonna do during the campaign.
What you do these do you support?
None.
Well, why is he supporting them now?
You know, add to that HR1, SR1, then reparations, deep funding and or dismantling the police, massive income, capital gains taxes.
I mean, it's it's madness.
Does capital gains tax increase?
This is want to know why the Dow took such a big hit yesterday.
I don't know what it is today.
Currently, it what he wants capital gains to go from 23.8% to 43.4%.
Okay, you know what that's gonna result in a massive sell-off before the law goes into effect.
All this accumulation of power.
You know, every every bill, you know, now we have uh Sheldon White House, Democrat, Rhode Island, the Senator.
Every bill Has to be a climate bill.
Well, so far they're that they're maintaining that because emergency COVID relief, it became basically the climate bill and the blue state bailout bill and everything but emergency COVID relief.
That was only 9% of the bill.
And the same with the infrastructure.
Everything's infrastructure.
Child care is infrastructure, pre-K's infrastructure.
You got to be kidding.
That's not infrastructure.
Reparations is infrastructure.
Everything's infrastructure.
You know, it's, you know, this race to call everything.
If you're against DC statehood, you are now a racist, according to some.
I'll give you the details of that in a second.
You support Georgia's voting law.
Far less restrictive than Delaware.
Joe Biden, you remember, my state's a slave state.
Put y'all back in change.
You ain't black.
The guy that partnered with the guy that filibustered the 64 Civil Rights Act, the 65 voting rights act, and partnered with the former Klansmen to stop integration of schools and busing, and yeah, we don't want our schools becoming racial jungles.
Now he's going to lecture America on systemic racism.
I've told you if you want to get in Joe's White House, you want to get to the Capitol, want to see your congressman, Congresswoman.
Yeah, you need a photo picture ID, DNC, convention, picture ID.
Buy a pack of cigarettes, picture ID, six pack of beer, picture ID, bottle of wine, picture ID, a jewel pod, picture ID.
Picture ID for everything.
There are four things that we need if we want confidence and integrity in our voting system.
It's not that complicated.
I would think everybody, every American wants this.
The reason they want HR one is there's really two big things they don't want.
Well, th we'll say three.
They want massive registration.
They don't even want to clean up the voting rolls, which is like, what?
That should be standard.
You don't want picture ID.
They don't want signature verification.
We have laws in almost every state that partisan observers get to observe the vote count.
Republicans and Democrats.
That's not complicated.
Chain of custody to make sure that there's no tampering with ballots.
You have people on both sides of the aisle having their representatives make sure there's no tampering.
Is that complicated?
It's not that complicated.
Well, why do they why don't they want these things?
Well, the reason is obvious.
Because they think they're going to do better with a system that would allow them flexibility.
What's the flexibility for?
Georgia, 17 days in-person early voting.
Guess how many Joe's state has?
Zero.
Zero.
500 years he served for the people of Delaware.
Somewhere around there, 500.
I know it's over 50, but it looks like 500.
Georgia allows lockboxes.
Matter of fact, mandates it in every precinct in the state.
Delaware is zero lockbox vote boxes, whatever you call them.
You know, the same with both states have voter ID laws.
So how do you call that Jim Crow 2.0?
I'm convinced that we'll be able to stop this because it is the most pernicious thing.
This makes Jim Crow look like Jim Eagle.
I mean, this is gigantic, what they're trying to do.
And it cannot be sustained.
And it's just not right.
This is Jim Crow on steroids, what they're doing in Georgia and 40 other states.
What is all about?
Imagine passing a law saying you cannot provide water or food for someone standing in the line to vote.
Can't do that?
Come on.
It is reassuring to see that uh for-profit operations and businesses are speaking up about how these new Jim Crow laws are just anathetical to who we are.
Oh, okay.
Why didn't you lift a finger in the 500 years you've represented the great state of Delaware?
You know, everything's now gonna be a climate bill.
All that is is socialism.
That's where what is the Green New Deal?
We've explained this a hundred times.
Maybe 500 times.
It's it's it's oh, everything is guaranteed, guaranteed Government job, guaranteed pre-K through college, paid for.
Forgiveness of college loans, guaranteed government wage, guaranteed government healthy food, guaranteed government health care, guaranteed government retirement.
Again, you're trusting the same people that failed with their simple promise and talking point on Obamacare to keep your doctor, keep your plan and save money.
The same people from the same states, the same liberal Democrats that don't that there's no law and order and safety and security in their cities and their states that they run for decades.
The same people that we give more per capita per student than any other industrialized nation with the worst results.
Why would you trust them when they give you a promise for something else they're going to provide?
How's Social Security doing these days?
And how's Medicare doing these days?
They're both headed for insolvency.
Let me give you another word.
That would be bankruptcy.
They bankrupted it.
There's no there's no lockbox.
They didn't save your Social Security money.
I want to talk about, you know, Bernie Madoff die.
It's a Ponzi scheme of all Ponzi schemes, but it's I guess legal because they do it.
They've squandered, they spent it, they put the money in the general fund and they lied to us.
Socialism always ends in failure.
It results in broken promises, unfulfilled promises, more poverty, and then it's a matter of how much of your freedoms you give up in the name of false security that your government bureaucrats so want to provide and promise you.
Trust the government.
I don't trust the government.
Their track record sucks.
Why should we trust them?
They have a track record.
Look at past results as a pretty good indication of future results.
You know, Biden is now going to restore California's power to set pollution rules.
Oh, okay.
We're watching this very closely.
White House is mulling grants for critical race theory in classrooms, which we have talked about.
Uh that's the next thing on the agenda.
Uh and uh, let's see, Obama Department of Energy scientist descends from Biden's climate change excess existential crisis narrative.
Former undersecretary, Department of Energy under Obama, Steve Kuhnan is his name, is dissenting from this hysteria, and he's in this stance of a global climate crisis, saying that the data does not support the hysteria.
This is Obama's guy.
What I realized is that although you hear people talking about we've we're going to believe in the science, the science is settled.
We we've got an existential crisis.
When you actually read the science, it doesn't support that kind of hysteria at all.
He said in an interview.
He's a physicist, professor at MYU, and said he began extensively researching climate trends in 2014 and prompting him to write his latest book, Unsettled.
What climate science tells us and what it doesn't and why it matters.
Well, listen to the scientist.
Yeah, that Fauci did a great job.
All the scientists, all the experts, all the models, all the predictions on the pandemic, all the oh, you don't wearing a mask.
Fauci was saying in March of last year, come on.
It's not gonna help at all.
Don't wear a mask.
Americans don't need to wear mask.
Now we got to wear two.
Even after you're vaccinated, wear a mask.
Unbelievable.
Anyway, he said that the temperatures rising globally have risen by roughly 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit over the last century, but then argued that even as the earth was warming and continues to warm, mankind has been able to make immense advances, expanding food resources and access to electricity.
What I always say, no country's accumulated more power, abused it less, as Barry Farber said, I add, and used used this freedom for the advancement of the human condition.
I predicted back in January of last year that I had faith that the medical community would come up with therapeutics, ultimately a vaccine on coronavirus.
And I'm again, I urge you to talk to your doctors.
Make your own decisions, do your own research, learn.
I'm not anti-medic, anti-science, I'm not anti-vaccine at all.
Actually, very pro.
You know, we've got the, you know, the doubt tumbling yesterday on this capital gains, but 23% to 43%.
Now, let me explain what a capital gains tax is.
All right, let's say you have an income tax, you paid your income tax, then you you take a risk and you invest it.
You know, people do lose money in the stock market, just in case you don't know.
People lose money in investments.
I have myself.
I know I'm, you know, so but you you're putting your money at risk a little bit.
So that, okay, if you make money taking that risk, now the money you've already been taxed, now they want another bite of the apple.
It's a capital gains tax.
Invest in a house, make a profit, capital gains tax.
Government always gets their bite.
You drop dead, 40% estate tax.
They're gonna raise that.
New York State, you pay another 10% to New York, Florida zero.
What the hell am I doing here?
We've got to get out of here.
I'm an idiot.
I need to get my lawyers working on my contract as soon as possible.
Gotta get out of here.
So st you know, people say you're so stupid to live in New York with all those taxes.
I'm like, you're right.
I can't argue with you.
I can't say, yeah, no, you're wrong.
It's indefensible at this point.
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What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of 10, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
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One of the things that is really sad for the country is now we watched what happened in this instance in Ohio, and we see the dismantling of police departments and the funding.
And, you know, you watch, and I gotta tell you something.
You know, it's sad because I don't think cops are ever going to want to do their jobs again.
We have this neighbor across the street who had his own video footage, and it's it's so damning because you can actually hear the girl on tape.
I'm going to stab you.
She says it.
Just as she's doing it.
As she's again, she's loaded up.
You can see clear as day, knife in hand, about to be Thrust into this girl's neck, chest, wherever.
And it's it's it's simple to if you hit the the right area, there's no saving that person.
You can't get paramedics there safe enough to or the damage is so great you can't save that person.
Monday in Ohio, a 13 year old stabbed another 13 year old.
But the video clear and that that that in that case, the person died.
Makia Bryant, sure it's sad.
She shouldn't have been trying to stab her friend.
And saying it, I'm gonna stab you.
In that case, I talk a lot about non-lethal police options.
There's no non-lethal option available for the cops there.
He acted in an incredible speed and incredible pro professionalism.
And he saved the unarmed girl pinned to the car that was about to die.
And then in comes LeBron James and the liberal left and the crazy madness begins again.
We'll continue.
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And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
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You're our kind of people.
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So down a verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
When I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why.
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word.
One that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nafok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yeah, that's right.
Locker up.
Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Alright, 25 till the top of the hour.
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You make this show possible.
We never forget that.
Um Biden White House considers raising the capital gains tax to nearly 44%.
Are you kidding me?
Twelve states urging Biden to ban gas and diesel cars by 2035.
How about the American people decide?
I mean, it's it's really unbelievable.
But by the way, Biden gaffed it up again this time about uh a saloon, wasn't quite sure when he was given a coronavirus update.
Biden announced 200 million shots had been given, and the American rescue plan was going to cover a paid leave tax credit to get the vaccine.
And Biden, of course, then calls on employees getting the vaccine.
They may need time off, et cetera, et cetera, for employee as a reaction to it.
No working American should suffer because they did their patriotic duty.
Well, does that imply that if people making a private medical decision based on their private personal medical condition and consultation with their private medical doctor, and they don't decide the way Joe is we saying that's unpatriotic?
Maybe there are reasons you don't know up.
Do we know do we not believe in medical privacy anymore in this country?
Everybody's like, wants to know, what are you gonna do?
What are you gonna do?
What are you gonna do?
You know, vaccines, shaming people that are wearing masks, that are socially distancing, that make a decision based on things you might not what maybe they never told anybody they have in the antibodies.
And even when antibody levels go low, you still usually have the T cell antibodies, according to the doctors that we have interviewed on this program, many of them, and that they would recognize.
Then you got the whole issue of variants showing up, and for some, there's you know, we've time will tell it's too early if the vaccine is going to work on every variant the same way.
Early indications are it is follow the science, but you need time.
Clinical trials, the things they said you need for hydroxychloroquine, which we now have, and nobody wants to ever talk about because it didn't come out.
The ones that said it was dangerous, yeah, those have all been rescinded.
But now all the starting with the Henry Ford hospital study and and many others, oh, you increase greatly.
Taken early has an effect of mitigating some of the some of the symptoms.
Am I a doctor?
Nope.
I just read it.
I have no idea.
That's why I'm urging all of you.
My advice is you've got to do your own research.
You've got to, as much as you can handle, read, read, read, seek out all differing viewpoints, then meet with your doctor or doctors or people you know in the medical community that you trust and rely on and have confidence in,
and don't hesitate to ask them questions about any concerns you have or any personal medical conditions that you might have and possible interactions, etc.
You know, there's one thing I read recently, I think it was a CDC.
One of the I forget where.
It seems to be, that's how it read, okay to take the to get vaccinated during pregnancy.
Now, if if somebody I knew is pregnant, I'd say, you gotta talk to your doctor, make sure.
Then look at the medical research that's available, and then make your decision.
And you don't have to tell anybody what you decide either.
Why does somebody have to tell what we do what people's personal decisions on these things?
I don't understand that part.
Um, and I don't think people should be shamed.
Vaccination shaming should go on, and medical privacy needs to remain private.
You know, that's why I'm against these vaccine passports.
Are you have you ever been uh carrier of the coronavirus?
I mean, it's it's madness.
Most people are already making their choice, and you can see by the numbers of people that have taken the vaccine.
Most people are deciding to take it.
I know plenty of people that have made other the other decision.
It's not my place.
I'm not a doctor to tell people what to do.
Just I try to give information as it becomes available to me and pass it on.
I am not an anti-vaxxer at all.
I'm very pro-medical science, actually.
The science behind the two uh the Pfizer Moderna vaccine and that of Johnson and Johnson fascinates me.
The Johnson Johnson vaccine is a more classic style type of vaccination.
Builds up antibodies, and then you've got the new technology that we've gone over as it relates to Pfizer, Moderna.
And I just hope everyone takes the time to research it, talk to smart people that do this for a living, and and then you'll make your ultimate decision in consultation with your doctors.
Biden's attorney general said to me with law enforcement groups this afternoon.
Okay.
Black lives matters protesters.
Uh, we told you what happened at the Oklahoma State Capitol yesterday.
There's I didn't see any coverage on that whatsoever.
No, no, no.
Now, Joe Biden was wearing a mask during the virtual climate summit meeting.
Um I thought he was vaccinated.
That's the thing that I'm having a hard time understanding.
If you are vaccinated, at that point, do you still have to why why are we being told to still wear the mask?
again after the full vaccination is in effect?
I think people deserve some specific answers on that.
Maybe the great Dr. Fauci, who's been wrong more often than he would like to hear or admit, can tell us.
Demand for the COVID vaccine, by the way, the Epic Times was reported that at its plunged after the Biden administration brought up the issue of safety concerns as a Ugov survey underway when the suspension of the Johnson Johnson vaccine.
This affected women 18 to 48.
It was first six.
I think the number is now eight, and it had to do with blood clotting issues.
One person had died, one person was in critical condition.
That was the last update I've seen on it before the announcement of the vaccination pause.
52% of adults surveyed considered the shot very safe, somewhat safe.
After the announcement, only 37% called the vaccine safe.
39% said it was unsafe.
Donald Trump has said he's highly recommending people get it also.
But again, I make your own personal decision.
Informed, educated decision in consultation with the medical professionals in your life, your doctors, the people that you trust.
That's how you should make a decision on something like this.
Supply of coronavirus vaccine is now outpacing demands, some places around the country of finding as little interest in getting the shot.
They're even turning down shipments of it.
The CDC is looking into whether masks are necessary outside.
The New York Times is now admitting outdoor mask use doesn't make sense.
Even they've caught up.
Are masks necessary is the headline?
And it goes on to say there are few, if any documented cases of brief outdoor interactions leading to COVID transmission.
If you're passing other people on the sidewalk or sitting near them on a park bench, the exposure of XL particles appears to be too small to lead to infection.
That's not me.
That is the New York Times.
Alex uh Barenson, who's been a harsh critic of the vaccination issue.
He says there's no evidence of outdoor transmission, and there hasn't been for a year.
And the Chinese looked at this more than a year ago.
He said he tweeted a study that they'd put out that was basically the first and last word on it.
They found almost no outdoor transmission, which would explain why Florida did so much better than all these other states.
Take these masks off my child.
I showed this last night.
Parents have had it.
You know, the one good thing that I can say is that I say this as an older person, I'd much rather this impact me than my kids.
This is why the study of viruses, I mean, this is a lifelong passion for people, medical researchers.
And then virus variants and mutations and all things that are predictable.
They knew all this would happen.
But anyway, the um they they work hard every day, and this is what they do.
Uh, I see that uh Whitless Whitmer, the Michigan governor, lied about her travels before Florida for Florida trip was revealed.
Remember her husband was out there on the boat after she told people in Michigan they couldn't go boating.
That didn't stop her husband.
Anyway, last week Whitmer joined Michigan uh on their podcast, and she was asked by the reporter if she was able to take any days off for spring break or over the past year during the COVID-19 pandemic.
She responded that she was here in town the whole time during spring break, and that the last trip that she had taken was to Israel, an official on official business.
But then Whitmer admitted, had to admit earlier this week, oh yeah, I forgot.
I traveled to Florida in March, despite cautioning Michigan residents against traveling outside of the state.
Here in town the whole time.
Guess Michigan now, you know, they have now expanded to take on Florida as new territory for Michigan.
It's maddening because a lot of these same people would accuse me of not having family values if I didn't show up when a family member needed some help, right?
It was a two-day trip.
I wasn't out partying in Miami.
It was certainly not spring break.
She's on the defensive.
Michigan Republican Party communications director said the issue is not that Governor Whitman Whitmer visited her father.
It's that she lied about it and continues to hide key facts.
And it's hypocritical, as the people of Michigan were denied the same opportunity through her rules that lock people from visiting their loved ones in hospitals and nursing homes.
It's actually called a good point.
Whoopsie Daisy.
And hence the world that we now live in.
Biden is telling unvaccinated Americans they may have to cancel the Fourth of July.
Okay.
How do you cancel the Fourth of July?
I just think everybody now knows.
We, you know, sometimes we don't give the public enough credit.
The American people are smart.
And we do we make electoral mistakes occasionally?
Yeah, we do.
Every time America lurches left, they realize the mistake and they go right back to being conservative again, which I think is going to start happening if everybody, if we number one, bring these four issues that I brought up earlier about elections to the forefront.
Voter ID, custody of uh chain of custody issues, partisan observers, the right to observe, and signature verification, and you'll have confidence in your elections.
It's not that hard.
It really isn't.
Um, there's some interesting data as it relates to the police in America.
Rasmussen, 63% of Americans say the left's anti-cop rhetoric is posing a direct threat to public safety.
I don't disagree with that.
Neighbor with this footage of Micaiah Bryant, the video doesn't lie.
Guy's name is Donovan Brinson.
He was on with uh Harris Faulkner on Fox News yesterday.
And he had incredible footage to help the police.
And after reviewing the video, he thinks the officer reacted with what he thought was his best judgment.
He didn't have very long.
He said the video doesn't lie, and he's right about that.
The Columbus officer, um, who saved this unarmed girl's life, uh, is 23 years old, on the force, 16 months, but he's a pistol marksman and part of the guard.
Nancy Grace said if Makaiah Bryan called 911 before Columbus police shooting, that changes everything.
Makaiah Bryan's mother claims her daughter initially summoned officers.
But she's on tape now saying that she wants to stab this girl and is loaded with the knife in hand about to thrust it into this girl.
So sad.
So much violence.
You know, we do know how to stop violence in cities and murder and bring the murder rates down drastically, dramatically.
Rudy Giuliani, you may not like his politics, but he did it.
He got it done.
Now Ohio State.
Their university students are demanding that schools sever ties with Columbus police.
Okay.
What was the cop supposed to do?
And what if it was your best friend?
I'd ask every student.
I'd ask LeBron James.
What if it was your daughter?
God forbid, we don't want to see kids being stabbed to death.
I don't want to read the statistics every Monday how many people are shot in every big city run by Democrats into the ground for decades.
How many shot?
How many shot and killed?
I don't want to read over a hundred cops this year killed in the line of duty already.
Most of them shot and killed.
What do you do differently?
If it's your daughter, and it's literally a second away from a knife being loaded and thrust into her body with a very high potential of death.
What do you want the cop to do?
I'd ask the students at Ohio State, I'd ask LeBron James.
What do you want him to do?
Tell us.
By the way, U.S. and Mexico extend the COVID travel restrictions.
I thought travel bans were xenophobic and hysterical and racist.
One Texas border county declared a disaster and is now asking, actually, they're suing Biden for exempting border crossers from coronavirus rules.
That's a smart lawsuit.
That'll be successful.
Del Rio border sector chief.
High speed pursuits are up a hundred and seventeen percent.
Sex offender arrests up over two thousand percent.
Yeah, that open borders stay in getting rid of stay in Mexico policy.
Stop building the wall, bringing back catch and release is really working out well, isn't it?
800 941 Sean, our number Kristen Simena, Cinema, rather, is uh joining John Cornen.
She's showing some interesting positions on issues because I think she understands immigration's a big deal to the people of Arizona.
It's impacting them their daily life now.
But we'll see what the so-called bipartisan border solutions act has in it.
You always got to read the fine print.
Quick break, we'll come back.
We'll get to your calls.
Lindsay Graham, uh, James O'Keefe.
And where do you meet the Lieutenant Governor of North Carolina?
He did he was a rock star yesterday before Senate subcommittee, uh House Subcommittee.
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What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why.
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word.
One that connotes conspiracy theory.
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
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Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yeah, that's right.
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If you want to be a part of this program, we have gone over what is the single most largest, biggest attempted power grab ever in the history of this country.
Now, the latest attempt is by the Democrats.
If you talk about being against DC statehood, they wouldn't need a constitutional amendment.
Uh, my interpretation.
Uh, but if you talk about it, you're racist.
The Georgia law that is far more open and far less restrictive than Delaware's law.
Well, that's that's Jim Crow 2.0.
Uh, if you talk about police issues, even though many cities now have majority minority police forces, the the every police officer's racist.
And it's it's now the uh almost on every topic it comes up.
Uh here's the here, for example, listen to some recent comments on DC statehood.
I said yesterday when I was here, Castani was talking about his history of how long he was going back, and this one decide how far they went back on this issue.
And I said, This District of Columbia Statehood is in my DNA.
Everybody talks about how long they've been working on it.
DNA.
District of Columbia.
Statehood.
Put simply, if you oppose DC statehood, you support taxation without representation.
You hear me?
If you oppose DC statehood, then you support taxation without representation.
And opposing DC statehood, which is overwhelmingly supported by the people of Washington.
These representatives and their dark money backers over the Heritage Foundation, that's right, are telling over 700,000 Americans to sit down, shut up and enjoy this authoritarian system implemented by a bunch of elites who thought it was okay to enslave people for their selfish monetary gain hundreds of years ago.
And it's shameful that anyone would claim to support democracy and freedom and oppose statehood.
All right, joining us now is the junior senator from the state of South Carolina.
I'm kidding.
Actually, the senior senator.
Although I we tell Tim Scott all the time that he's the senior senator from South Carolina when he's on the program.
Senator Lindsey Graham is with us.
Senator, before I get to the serious issues, so let me get this straight.
So you have on your website the a contest going on to play golf with you and with President Trump.
All I can say is that the that's the serious topic.
So, yes, the first annual Trump Graham Golf Classic at Tom Beach, Florida at Trump's Golf Club.
Uh we're raffling off a spot in the tournament.
We're charging $25,000 per player, but we're gonna raffle it off.
So get online, LindsayGram.com, make a donation, five or ten bucks, put your name in the hat.
Next Tuesday, we're gonna we're gonna draw a name, and the winner will get an all-expense pay trip to go to Palm Beach, Florida, to play in the first annual Trump Graham Golf Classic.
You'll have uh breakfast, lunch, around the golf, and you'll get entertained by me and informed by President Trump about as good as it gets, Lindsay Graham.
I you know, I gotta be honest, I was very intrigued.
Uh, you know, uh I've been so busy work-wise for the last five years.
You know, I used to play a little golf.
I haven't had time.
Um, and people say you gotta make time for that stuff.
I'm like, I don't have time for that stuff, but uh um anyway, it sounds like a fun deal fun day, a great deal, great opportunity for people.
I'm I I bet a lot of people are gonna sign up for that.
Well, I hope so.
I mean, you know, the money, Sean, is gonna go to help take back the House and the Senate because the next topic is how do you stop all this crazy crap?
Well, uh the Senate's the last line of defense until the 2022 election.
We should take back the House.
If we take back the House in 2022, that stops this crazy stuff.
If we can gain one more seat in the United States Senate, that that's a check and balance against the crazy stuff we're about to talk about.
So the money for this tournament, Lindsay Graham.com, put your name in the hat.
We're gonna probably we're trying to raise a million dollars, and we're gonna split the money with the NRSC, President Trump's back, my campaign.
I'm gonna help every Republican on the ballot that I can that I can help.
And uh that's the way you stop this thing is take back the House and the Senate.
Well, that's the thing.
I mean, a lot of the money I know that you out of your campaign, I don't know what you call uh I don't know if it's a pack, whatever you call the thing.
Yeah, um, you you, for example, donated a lot of money to the Georgia runoff races, right?
Yeah, three million uh yeah, uh several million dollars, okay, 500,000 to President Trump uh to deal with his legal battles, and uh, I'm gonna give money to the National Republican Senatorial Committee.
The money I'm raising today is gonna, you know, help my campaign, but my campaign is gonna help others save America back.
That's President Trump's PAC.
Uh uh, they will get part of the money here.
And this raffle, I think is an interesting idea.
We were sitting around talking about you know, opportunities like this.
You know, just put your name in the hat.
You know, average every average everyday conservative, hardworking folks.
Uh put your name in the hat.
If you win, you're gonna get a prepaid trip to Florida.
But the main thing is you're helping the calls and and by the way, it doesn't have to be a big donation to play in the tournament because of money.
But if just give me a lot of people, but if you want a chance to win, uh oh, whatever you can give you, you get uh you your name's put in a hat.
Okay, understand.
Yeah, yeah.
Um that's right.
And so President Trump has got working people involved in the Republican Party.
The blue-collar working folks uh love President Trump, and this is our chance to give everybody a chance to come to Florida and play golf.
I saw that Senator Scott, we uh I'm very fond of Senator Scott, and he by the way he's very fond of you too.
I know you guys get along great.
Wonderful man, wonderful man.
He really is, and I see that he is giving the response to I I don't even know if they're calling it a State of the Union, but a joint session of Congress, uh, which I think is great.
Um I think he's a a star for the what I would want to see as the new Republican Party based on the Make America Great Again uh again agenda, America first agenda, uh the things that we know work because they worked when Donald Trump for the first three years of his presidency prior to the pandemic, and they'll work again.
Joe Biden has taken this country in a very radical direction.
Um I honestly I fear for the country.
We have a lot of Senate races coming up here.
Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Ohio, Wisconsin, Arizona.
If this is not going to be the bellwether of all bellwethers for 2024, I don't know what would be.
People need to understand, okay.
We're one election away from losing this country as we know it, but if it can't turns out well in 2022, we're one election away from the great comeback uh for President Trump and the Republican Party.
The House, we should win.
We need eight seats to take it back.
Thirteen seats are to our advantage through redistricting.
We need to pick up one seat in the Senate.
Ron Johnson, if you're listening to Sean Hannity, get off your ass and run.
We need to get good candidates in Arizona, run Herschel, run in Georgia.
John Senunu could be a good one.
By the way, how great is that that Herschel Walker, I had him on the program the other night.
He's thinking of running in Georgia.
Laura Trump's thinking of running in North Carolina.
I mean, that would that would be huge.
Uh so you know, Lauren Trump is uh just awesome, very articulate, wonderful lady that will be great for the Republic.
Herschel is uh a businessman, football hero, well grounded, sincere, humble guy.
The Republican Party is expanding.
Did you ever think you'd have a Republican primary in California with Caitlin Jenner and Rick Grinnell, you know, Rick or Nell's first openly gay cabinet member, uh Caitlin Jenner, probably the most famous trans person in in the world, maybe, running as Republicans.
Hell, this is good stuff.
Uh we're I'm into winning, Sean.
You're into winning.
Here's what happens if you lose.
DC's gonna become a state, the court's gonna get packed, they're gonna do electoral college, you're gonna nationalize the way we vote, and uh Republicans will be shut out forever.
So we can stop all this if we if we win in 2022.
So Jamie Harrison is the DNC chair tweeting out uh and I will take great joy responding to the falsehoods and the hypocrisy that I'm sure we will hear in in the saying this about our friend, Senator Tim Scott.
Hey, Jamie, saw your uh receipt spending 132 million and losing to Lindsey Graham, South Carolina about 10 plus points seems a a little high, don't you think?
I was like, ouch.
Well, I just hope he does for the Democratic Party what he did for me.
Yeah.
There's another candidate that I'm very interested in.
I'm just getting to know her.
And uh her name is Kathy Barnett.
She's she it looks like she's gonna run in Pennsylvania for the Senate.
We had her on this program, and and you're look, you're a pro, you do TV.
So too many of your fellow senators are too wimpy.
They don't want to come on the shows, they're afraid.
And I will tell you this.
So she comes on the show.
I think I asked her on this radio show one question, and she took the whole half hour and kept me interested, and I got ADHD.
Well, number one, if you're on your show, you better get as much in as you can from that first question, because you talk a lot.
So here's what I would say.
She was awesome, Sean.
She took it and ran, and your test is the best test.
If you're still interested, let people talk.
If they're losing you, they're probably losing your off uh audience.
There's another African American uh lady I spoke with, uh teaches at Carnegie Mellon, uh Ronald Reagan disciple, work for Joel Schultz, uh Newt Genridge, thinking about running in Pennsylvania.
Donald Trump has opened this party up, Unlike anybody in my lifetime.
And this is a good thing.
You know, I want I I now see a reconfiguration happening, especially had the had we not had the pandemic.
Think about this.
President Trump would have run on record low after record low, unemployment, African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women in the workplace, youth unemployment, African American youth unemployment.
I mean, he shattered a record a week on low unemployment numbers.
It was incredible.
And that can be duplicated.
Let the Democrats be the party of the coastal elites.
Let the Republican Party be the party of working men and women and liberty and freedom and secure borders and energy independence and constitutionalists on the court and the first and second amendment and low taxes, less bureaucracy, and uh free and fair trade and peace through strength.
That that agenda works, Lindsay.
And go into the inner cities and say we're going to fix your schools and we're going to bring back law and order.
So let's talk about Tim Scott, our buddy.
Tim Scott uh uh had his own business.
Um Scott is uh as nice as he seems in private.
Uh he he is a one he could he's a transformative figure for the Republican Party.
He created opportunity zones, working with Democrats instead of a bunch of government money going into the inner cities and rural poor areas, create tax incentives to get business to come, to hire young people, give them something to aspire to.
So here's the coalition that feature the Republican Party.
Working men and women, blue-collar Reagan Democrats, believe that Donald Trump, the Republican Party's on their side.
Uh Hispanic and African American families who are entrepreneurial to the core that want to live uh give a better life for their children, conservatives, African American, Hispanic folks that go to church, believe like we do on the social issues, and just looking to get ahead through opportunity, not a handout.
Uh, and young people who are looking to create a business.
How are they going to survive in this regulated high-tech environment?
Young people want to get out of the mother and father's basement.
That's the future of the Republican Party.
It's a coalition that I think will stand the test of time.
And 2022 is when we put this together.
Quick break.
We'll come back on the other side with Senator Lindsey Graham, James O'Keefe will join us, update us on his defamation lawsuit against Twitter, one coming for CNN and his New York Times, a huge win against them in the New York Supreme Court.
Straight ahead.
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What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why.
It's almost a dirty word.
One that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Navok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco Benghazi.
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And as we continue with Senator Lindsey Graham, you know, I'll tell you, I don't think there's going to be a more important election in our lifetime.
And you're right about Senator Scott.
We did some research.
Actually, Linda had sent this to me about him.
You know, the introduction of these two bills uh in response to the the widened Clyburn bill that would hurt low-income communities, you know, limiting opportunity zones.
And Scott Senator Scott said this is the second misguided attempt by Congressional Democrats in the last two weeks to wreck the opportunity zone initiative under the guise of improvement.
Make no mistake, Congressman Clyburn's legislation, which is very similar to a bill introduced by Senator Wyden, will needlessly punish low-income communities who are hoping to use opportunity zones to transform areas left behind.
And he said estimates are as high as sixty-three billion can already be expected to be utilized in these zones in this country, which by the way, these are zones across the country with a poverty rate averaging thirty percent in the eight thousand seven hundred zones in the country.
So not only are they afraid of this, but also it will break the stranglehole they have where you become dependent on government.
So what Tim's come up with is to allow the governor of each state to create opportunity zones, not some bureaucrat in Washington, and money will flow into these areas.
There'll be tax advantages to create business.
But we won't take it to the next level.
A lot of these schools and these are urban poor and rural areas are underperforming, so we want to create opportunity scholarships to give uh people living in these areas a chance to educate their kids.
So liberal democrats are afraid of school choice, and liberal democrats are afraid of opportunity zones because it will show people in rural and urban poor areas there's a better way than the government way.
And Tim is leading on both of those issues.
That's why they're trying to kill these ideas in the cradle, and that's why they're afraid of Tim Scott appearing after Joe Biden, because Tim will offer a better way, I think, for America versus what Joe Biden's offering.
All right, we got to run.
Uh Lynn oh, so the people want to if you donate anything, even a buck, I guess you can get a chance to win to play golf with you and Trump.
That's awesome.
Yeah, LindsayGram.com.
It'll pop up to tell you how to put your name in the and the pot.
I will draw next Tuesday.
A small donation will help the cause.
And uh maybe I'll hope pray you get to come to Florida and play golf with President Trump.
You get to see a good golfer and President and you'll get to meet and you'll get to meet me.
Yeah, maybe I should make myself part of that that's whatever.
I'm sure I'll get I'm sure I'll get excoriated by the mob in the media.
Hannity's doing a fundraiser.
I'm like I'll go jump in a lake.
All right, thank you, sir.
800 941 Sean is our number.
Quick break, right back.
continue.
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And standing up for liberty every day.
Twenty-five to the top of the hour, eight hundred nine-four one Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program, first I want to give you an update.
Uh we had that blockbuster reveal by Project Veritas and its founder, James O'Keefe and CEO James O'Keefe.
Uh remember, they won this big, big Supreme Court of New York suit that allows discovery in their lawsuit against the New York Times.
That is now moving forward.
He's announced now that there'll be a suit against fake news CNN.
CNN was exposed big time by Project Veritas last week.
Oh, we're a political organization.
Yeah.
Our job was to get rid of Trump.
Yeah.
Our job was to use COVID as much as possible to scare the hell out of people uh to get ratings up.
I mean, the most insane things that that they had one of their directors saying.
Uh now James O'Keefe uh is also saying he made promise and he announced he's joining with an update.
He has a defamation suit against at Jack at Twitter.
Before we get to that, they actually Project Veritas was able to get to Humpty Dumpty, uh, who is Jeff Zucker, Mr. Potato Head's stenographer.
And uh here's what happened when they met up with Humpty.
You need to leave.
Do you want them?
Mr. Stelter, do you have any other comment on Charlie Chester?
The journalist with Project Veritas trying to get comments from Brian Stelter on our recent release from Charlie Chester in the propaganda, COVID numbers to uh fear into the American people.
Coming to you from New York City.
All right, Project Veritas CEO founder James O'Keefe has an update.
Yeah, it looks like Humpty didn't want to comment.
And I don't think anybody at any time ever addressed publicly the expose where you just expose them as being nothing but a a propaganda political the political arm of the Democratic Socialist Party.
Well, well, Sean, thank you for having me on again.
And no, they haven't uttered a word about the expose.
Uh they haven't said one word.
Uh we have it on information that this man Chester has been fired, but I have not been able to get audio visual confirmation of that.
And Sean, you know, as you as your audience knows, Twitter took down my Twitter feed on Thursday afternoon after, just right after we released the Black Lives Matter tape showing the director Chester uh saying that they help Black Lives and how they want to help Black Lives Matter.
So it was just too devastating an expose.
And uh and now we've just launched the lawsuit against Twitter in the Supreme Court of the State of New York.
We are going after Twitter for defamation, and if you think that I'm bluffing, we've already defeated the New York Times on motion to dismiss in New York State.
We're going towards depositions and not litigation.
So we're successful in how we do this.
We have to get them under oath because it seems the only time they tell the truth is when they're under oath.
Can I ask one legal question?
Why did you choose New York?
Because I would assume I'm not sure where their jurisdiction is.
Where is Twitter?
Where is Twitter?
They're in San Francisco, so we figure that we have a better shot in New York State than in the Ninth Circuit of California.
I was shocked that you did so well in the New York Supreme Court.
I'm not gonna lie.
Well and and this is now twice and twice that there's a direct challenge to the New York Times in your case, and in Governor Palin's case, you know, the high bar of proving actual malice and reckless disregard.
It's a very high bar because of the famous landmark Supreme Court case uh Times v.
Sullivan, New York Times interestingly, versus Sullivan.
So um I it's it's gonna be amazing.
Just the discovery portion alone is a big win for you.
Well, I would say that the the the libel laws, you know, in this country, most people settle.
Nick Sandman the settled when he when he sued the Washington Post.
You're all familiar with Nick Sandman, the young man who is defamed with with standing next to the Native American.
I don't settle litigation, Sean.
I uh we we want to When they come to you and offer you a hundred million dollars, you're not gonna settle.
I would tell them, excuse me for saying this, I would tell them to go to hell.
Uh I don't I don't I don't I I I admire you.
I'm just I think most people would probably take the hundred, and I'm sure Nicholas Sandman didn't get paid a small amount of money.
I'm not I'm not for sale.
I'm not for I know I know you I'm I'm totally messing with you, but you know what I'm saying.
I understand, but but the reason why I'm being so serious is because this is a big deal to depose under oath on video, New York Times executive editor, uh Maggie Astor, the reporter, Shu, the individual who said I was quote deceptive.
Now, Twitter has said, this is on Thursday from their spokesperson, they said, quote, uh James O'Keefe operated fake accounts, unquote.
I've never operated a fake Twitter account in my life.
That is a lie, and and and uh in in the United States, you cannot lie with malice.
You cannot intentionally lie.
That is an unlawful thing for them to do.
This is Twitter incorporated.
So I intend to get past motion to dismiss against Twitter and depose uh the CEO of Twitter, Jack Dorsey under oath on video and release the video for all the world to see.
Well, I do applaud you uh on the serious note.
This is this is really significant because it's really serious what's happening.
Um I have talked about since two thousand and seven journalism in America is dead.
The three networks, then you've got two cable channels, uh fake news CNN, MSDNC, uh then you've got the New York Toilet Paper Times, and I I'm watching this closely for my own selfish personal reasons, both your case and Governor Palin's case, because I honestly I I I felt that the bar is so ridiculously high um and shouldn't be that high uh from the Times v.
Sullivan case that I didn't I I did not see this as a successful effort.
I mean, they pretty much accused me of killing people a couple of times, not just once.
You know, the and I'm sick and tired of taking it like you are, and but I you know, everyone has choices to make in life, and I know that I want to devote my time, my attention, a hundred percent of it, to doing the best show I can do every day.
And I know you'd rather devote your time and attention doing to the you know to the great work you guys are doing on Project Veritas, but on the other hand, these are important issues.
Look at how everyone's been canceled off of Twitter.
You know, look look at what they did with big tech companies in this last election protecting Joe Biden and wouldn't even allow the New York Post story to be posted or printed, canceling the president of the United States because they don't like what he's saying.
And now it's getting so out of hand, I don't think it could be any more timely than it is now, and I do fully support the efforts uh that you're involved in here.
And if you're able now that you're able to successfully pull it off with the New York Times, I would assume that the door is open for CNN and Twitter, and the fact that you're gonna take this all the way as far as you possibly can, I think is good news for everybody, and maybe there might be one day a landmark case that overturns Times v.
Sullivan, and we have a whole new standard where they can stop, they can't get away with impunity lying about public figures like us.
Well, I think I think Sean, we're we're I believe we're there's only been eight or so plaintiffs since nineteen sixty four that that have gotten past this motion to dismiss phase.
And and you know, I think that you the critical thing which you touched upon is the fact that you get to video depose them under oath.
Can you imagine what they might admit?
Maybe we'll get them to admit something to be effective.
They were destroying emails after we sued them, which they'd be sanctioned for.
These are unethical people, they're deceptive people.
They said in the first sentence of the article that I was deceptive and a disinformation person.
And the judge in New York said that when the New York Times defense to our lawsuit was, well, that's just our opinion.
And the judge responded to their defense by saying, Well, you shouldn't put your opinion in the first sentence of an A section New York Times article.
So I I I don't know what other recourse that I have.
And the great thing about litigation, which I'm learning is that like undercover work, it it the discovery of the lawsuit of the libel lawsuit, and we and this will happen, Sean.
It's a hundred percent bound to happen.
We got past motion dismissed, you're gonna have the depositions come September, October.
This will become very real for people, and maybe it's the only thing that's going to deter them from lying about people.
It's disgraceful.
I've had hundreds of people reach out to me in the last week, and they say, Well, I was gonna sue, but I don't have the money, I don't have the resources.
So I think we speak to the city.
It's very, very expensive.
Listen, I I totally admire what you're doing, support what you're doing, support what Governor Palin is doing.
James O'Keefe, appreciate you being with us.
800 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Patrick in Arizona, we start with you, sir.
How are you?
Glad you called.
Uh I'm doing better than I deserved.
Oh, well, I'm kind of feel the same way.
What's on your mind?
So my question has to do with uh the Democrats and specifically the communist members of the squad.
Right.
Okay.
So any entity, uh business, a team, uh radio show, a church, a political group, anything.
They have to have a goal, mission statement, a purpose, some measure of success for the organization, right?
Okay.
So my my question is, and I think uh Mr. Horwitz kind of touched on this a little bit earlier, but Sean, what what is the goal of the squad?
What what are they trying to accomplish with The defunding the police.
What is the what is the end goal and what does that world look like that we would all have to live in?
We already know the the goal is put very straightforward.
The goal is the the outline known as the Green New Deal, authoritarianism, statism, socialism, redistributionism, and the most radical agenda ever put forward.
Now they happen to have the most power in Congress.
Nancy Pelosi is beholden to the squad.
The squad decides she's she's no longer the speaker.
She's out.
Chuck Schumer scared to death, AOC will run against her.
Joe Biden is I don't I don't even think he knows what day of the week it is.
He's just signing whatever they put in front of him and reading whatever they write for him.
Yeah.
So it it's and the the entire agenda of the de modern Democratic Party is the squad's agenda.
The agenda's packing the courts, getting rid of the legislative filibuster, no voter ID at all, no signature verification in elections at all, HR one, SR one, DC Puerto Rico statehood, because Democrats believe that gives them power and perpetuity and and a permanent Senate majority.
Open borders amnesty, uh the biggest tax increase in over three decades, uh blue state bailouts, uh union bailouts, teacher bailouts, Green New Deal ism, the the ten trillion dollars that and and all the associated radical policies with it.
So, you know, the answer's pretty transparent.
This they're still telling you what they want to do.
This will result are people hearing that message.
Do the middle of the road Democrats that work hard every day, they just lean a different direction than us.
They can't be going along with this, right?
At some point Jackson Democrats, the the the old more conservative Democrats are pretty much extinct.
You know, I guess the closest you get to it is Joe Manchin.
Okay.
That's about as close as you'll get, and he wobbles and he wiggles and he vacillates and they put pressure on him and he off in caves.
So we'll see what happens.
But uh what I do think is gonna happen is I think the American people are watching this radicalism.
They Joe flat out denied he would pack the courts, flat out denied he would go against the legislative filibuster, but he did put forward the Biden Burney manifesto.
And I think what's gonna happen is they've so overreached and continue to overreach that there will be a backlash and it will be a massive political earthquake starting in 2022.
That'll only happen if people like yourself, I keep saying everybody is a spoke in the wheel, including me.
I'm just a spoke, you're a spoke.
If everybody sees that what is at stake here that believes in our constitution, that believes in liberty and freedom, that believes in law and order and safety and security, and believes in in choice for public schools and constitutionalists on the bench and don't want to pack the courts,
those that believe in law and order and legal immigration, those that believe in energy independence, those that believe in peace through strength and don't want to gut our military, those that support free and fair trade, uh free market options, solutions for health care, but that will protect pre-existing conditions.
Those Americans now are watching this.
And now they they are seeing very clear.
I think buyer's remorse for many people will be severe.
And I think it starts in 2022, but it's really got to start now.
Because if we don't change, if we don't ensure that every state has voter ID laws, if every state doesn't have signature identification, if every state doesn't demand chain of custody uh as it relates to ballots, if every state doesn't allow partisan observers to observe the vote count, then as far as I'm concerned, there'll never be integrity or confidence in any election result.
So these things need to be fixed now.
State legislatures need to move and state and every senator, Republican senator needs to stand up and walk out the moment Democrats try to push SR one or pack the courts, they need to unite.
Now, do I have faith, hope, and confidence in 50 Republicans?
I I don't really have a lot of faith in Mitt Romney or Ben Sass the Jackass or or Lisa Murkowski.
I just don't have a lot of faith in them.
But we'll have to wait and see.
But there's a lot at stake.
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Well, now we're at the on the brink part.
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Um in North Carolina, the first African American, Lieutenant Governor, he went to Congress at a House hearing, and he lit them up.
I mean, it was it was an amazing moment, uh, amazing speech regarding voting rights.
It was before the House uh Judiciary Subcommittee addressing these claims by the left that voter ID is racist.
As you know, Joe Biden's been claiming, well, this is Jim Crow 2.0 in his state of Delaware, five hundred years he's represented that state.
He's never once reformed, uh, made more accessible the voting laws in his state of Delaware, or as he once said, my state's a slave state.
But Joe Biden is out there criticizing Georgia voting uh the new Georgia voting law.
17 days of early in-person voting in Delaware, zero.
Zero.
Uh you need an excuse to get an absentee ballot in in Delaware, not Georgia.
Every single precinct in Georgia has a drop box.
And both states require voter ID.
And he, you know, how dare he play the race card the way he's been doing it, and he's done it three times now that we've counted.
Anyway, so this is the lieutenant governor, Mark Robinson is his name.
We'll meet him in a second of uh North Carolina before this subcommittee.
Today, we hear Georgia Law being compared to Jim Crow.
The black voices are being silenced, and the black voices are being kept out.
How?
By bullets, by bombs, by nooses?
No.
By requiring a free ID to secure the vote.
Let me say that again.
By requiring a free ID to secure the vote.
How absolutely preposterous.
Am I to believe that black Americans who have overcome the atrocities of slavery, who were victorious in the civil rights movement, and now sit in the highest levels of this government cannot figure out how to get a free ID to secure their votes.
That they need to be collared by politicians because they don't think we can figure out how to make our voices heard.
Are you kidding me?
The notion that black people must be protected from a free ID to secure their votes is not just insane.
It is insulting.
Just a few days ago, excuse me.
And let me tell you something about this.
This isn't doesn't have anything to do with justice.
This has everything to do with power.
Wow.
Anyway, joining us now, the lieutenant governor, the great state of North Carolina, by the way, the first African American Lieutenant Governor of that great state.
Sir, it's an honor to have you on the program.
How come we where have you been?
Why have I not why have you not been on our radar yet?
And as a guest often.
Well, there's been a couple of times, and I think uh some things uh jumped in front of us, some bigger news stories jumped in front of us, but I'm honored to be here uh for this first time, and I hope to be back again at some point.
Well, I love North Carolina.
I have a lot of friends down there, um, as you may know.
And uh, you know, I watched this moment and I was so grateful to you for for sharing that.
Now I just gave the comparison of Georgia, their new voting law versus the restrictive laws in states like Delaware and states like New York.
And it's far less restrictive in Georgia, and it's far more accessible in Georgia.
At the end of the day, when Joe Biden, who's represented this state of his for 500 years, something like that, he's about 500 years old, um, makes that statement, that incendiary Jim Crow 2.0, like he once said, but they're gonna put you all back in chains and you ain't black,
and the same guy, interestingly, that even partnered with a former Klansman to stop the integration of schools and school busing, that would be Robert Byrd, who we praised the former Klansmen, and didn't want our schools to become racial jungles.
We're gonna get lectured by him, and he's gonna with his restrictive state laws on voting.
Absolutely.
You know, when you think of Joe Biden, when you think of the left, one word comes to mind every time, and that is hypocrisy.
They are experts on hypocrisy.
Uh whether it be the racial jungle comment or that we're gonna they're gonna put y'all back in chains or you ain't black comment.
Joe Biden's political career is wiped not just with making racist statements, but fighting for racist policies.
And how dare this man now stand like he's he's forgotten that and claim to be this justice, this uh champion for racial justice.
He is anything but, and that needs to be pointed out.
And uh, while I'm talking on that subject as well, I think there were many people that were speaking during that hearing yesterday who were quite irritated by what I said, and nothing could make me uh feel uh warm deep down inside because of it.
You know, I I love the the strong local leaders and states that go to Washington and and do exactly what you did because you it's kind of how I feel about many people in Washington, the swamp, the sewer.
I don't respect them.
I don't think a lot of them are honorable.
I don't think they're consistent.
You mentioned the word hypocrisy.
You're sir, you're a hundred percent right, and it reeks with hypocrisy.
And they they they it's so many get get caught up in in the quicksand of that swamp, and it's so despicable, then in comes, you know, here you are the lieutenant governor of North Carolina, and you don't care.
You're gonna tell them the truth, whether they want to hear it or not.
I'm I'm I'm so glad you did it.
Well, you know, it's just another one of those things that I think points out to what we really need to start doing in this country.
You know, these guys that go to Washington, D.C., and I told them this yesterday.
They sit up high and they look low, they think they know better than us, they think they know what's right for our states, what's right to the people.
Um it is time for us to stand up and push back against the federal government.
The federal government has stepped out of its bounds, did it decades ago, and they continue to do it uh at an increasingly alarming rate.
You know, there was one time I was having a conversation with someone and I I told him I said you know that annoying co-worker at work who's never on task who's always behind in his own work who never knows what's going on at his own desk but he's always at somebody else's business always at somebody else's desk and always trying to take somebody else's job that is the federal government that is a good description of what they do they are never on task with what they should be doing and they're always trying to take over things they shouldn't be.
We see it all the time we see it with education and now we're seeing it with with voting rights.
That should be left up to and prescribed to the states to carry out are there national voting laws that we need to have absolutely yes but they absolutely should be but we should not be allowing the federal government to reach in and dictate uh a a partisan wish list uh upon the state for the purposes of trying to keep one party in power Lieutenant governor I think there are four things that every state needs to have so we can have confidence in the results of our elections and integrity in the system.
One is voter picture ID, right?
You need that to get into the White House to get into the DNC to get into the Capitol to buy a six pack of beer to buy a pack of cigarettes to buy a jewel pod for crying out loud.
All right that's one signature verification is two we have a very rigid standard for chain of custody that that partisan observers be able to watch that the those ballots and they can't be tampered with and partisan observers it's the statutory language in most states get to watch really watch not like this past election year the vote counting to make sure that people are being honest hold them accountable.
Anything you would add to that I would add this too as well not necessarily to that list but this is what I would add to that I would add this.
Yesterday during the hearing I kept hearing all of these and these guys they love to use these these phrases you know Jim Crow 2.0 and there's another one they use the big lie by Donald Trump.
What about the big lie of Russia Russia Russia?
You know they were talking about election and they had not a leg to stand on and they beat that force absolutely to death and you know uh driving home today I I was thinking about this.
I said, you know, when you talk about election integrity, it should be done not just for what we've seen during the 2020 election with the debacle of mail-in voting and a lot of other debacles that we saw across the country, but it should also be done to put to bed the specter of things like Russia, Russia, Russia, and any other speculation that we have because of the American voting system.
America is the greatest constitutional republic in the world, the greatest nation in the world.
We should have the cream of the crop when it comes to elections.
there should be absolutely almost no question about the integrity of our of our elections and you are absolutely right I firmly believe that starts with showing a state issue photo ID.
Let me ask you this if if Laura Trump, I know her name's been out there, I know McGraw's name's been out there, um have you thought about at all running for this open seat in North Carolina for the United States Senate?
Because I I'd love to see you if you became a senator from North Carolina that'd be awesome.
We did we we took a very hard look at that seat uh we ran some poll numbers actually on that seat and then and they came back very favorable but ultimately we decided that what we're doing in North Carolina is going to be far more valuable for the people of our state uh I feel like I'm on a very good track right now if I continue to do what I'm doing some of the things that I'm doing the uh anti-indoctrination uh task force that I put together here in North Carolina for our public students I'm gonna ask a favor.
Yes.
Don't close the door to it.
I want you I'm serious.
Would you please just keep an open mind about it for a little while?
Well, you know, I've already said no to the Senate.
I've already publicly said no to the Senate.
But, you know, with God, anything's possible.
Who knows what may happen down the road?
But I've already made a public statement saying I'm going to stay in North Carolina.
I know there were a lot of folks that wanted me to run for that seat, but I feel like I have obligations here in this state that I need to fulfill.
But I certainly appreciate your vote.
But you'd be able to serve in a larger capacity.
And I think people understand that, you know, the right circumstances.
not sure who's gonna run I mean there aren't good people that are considering it but I but you would be in my my top three for sure.
Easy right off the top.
I I I sure appreciate the vote of confidence, but like I said, I think we have decided that we're gonna stay put in North Carolina, but you know, um crazier things that that that have happened, and it certainly would be crazy if I decided to run for that city because I have no plans whatsoever to do that right now.
Oh, it'd be pretty amazing.
Um, you know, let me ask you this.
Why is it that states like New York, California?
You know, if you notice liberal Democrats that now want to double.
I don't know if you've seen this, that Joe Biden's plan for uh the capital gains tax increase.
He wants to take it from 20 per 23 percent to 43.4 percent.
Right on top of raising the income tax rates dramatically.
What do you see that doing to the economy?
Well, of course it's gonna destroy the economy.
And it's as of course, it's gonna destroy uh the average American right across the board because they try to say it's gonna do what's gonna destroy is super rich.
But we don't ever see that, do we?
Their bad policies don't ever destroy the the Michael Bloombergs of the world.
They don't ever destroy the uh they don't ever ever uh destroy the the Cuomo's of the world.
They don't ever destroy the Biden families of the world.
They destroy ordinary folks who get up and go to work every day.
That's who those policies are destroying.
I've said this once, and I've said it a thousand times.
The ultimate goal of these socialists is to create a society that is two-layered.
Elites on the top and everybody else on the bottom.
That is their ultimate goal.
We have seen it in society after society after society.
We cannot tolerate that here in the United States of America.
We have seen these plans literally bring states and cities to their needs.
I plan to do everything I can to make sure that North Carolina is not one of those.
All right, quick break more with the Lieutenant Governor, great state of North Carolina, Mark Robinson.
I think we're gonna be hearing a lot more from Mark Robinson in the years ahead.
Uh, then we'll get to your phone calls, final half hour on a Friday, and awesome Hannity, nine Eastern Tonight, Fox News.
As we continue, Lieutenant Governor from North Carolina, Mark Robinson is with us.
You know, it's interesting the that states that have uh elected people like yourself that that support entrepreneurialism and low taxes and and less burdensome government interference on regulations, etc.
And I'm sh if I go through the list, I bet you support tax cuts, less regulation.
Correct me when I'm wrong, uh border security.
Uh I'm I'm betting you you believe we should be energy independent, constitutionalists on the bench.
I'm betting that you believe in school choice.
I'm betting that you believe that every city needs law and order for and safety and security.
Uh I'm betting that you also believe in free and fair trade and peace through strength.
Am I wrong on any of those?
You you are speaking my language on every one of those.
Uh many of those things we talk about North Carolina right now.
Now I'm gonna have a big fight with you because now you have to give me that promise before you hang up today.
I'm not I'm not gonna take no for an answer.
I'm a talk show host.
I do this for a living.
You're gonna have you're gonna have to take no one answer.
I don't know.
Nobody gets I that you sound like my kids.
No, Dad.
I'm like frustrated.
The people of North Carolina I'm staying here.
I'll take a poll.
I'll I'll pay for a poll.
Is it okay if you change your mind?
If it comes back favorable, would you will you consider it?
No, I've no, I'm not gonna change my mind because of a poll.
I'm not.
I made the people in North Carolina promise that I'm gonna stay right here and fight for them.
But again, I'm not sure.
I mean, see, you saying this makes me like you more.
You're not helping your situation by telling me that.
You're making it worse for yourself.
Yeah, that's right.
I've heard that.
I certainly have heard that.
I I tell you, North Carolina has done many of the things that you just mentioned, and it has caused us to absolutely turn uh 180 degrees economically.
Uh uh, I mean, just the things that conservative leadership has done in this state since 2010 when they took over is amazing.
And you can see it in states across the country right now that are thriving.
The people are happy, uh businesses are open, they're you know, folks are moving ahead, they're moving up, building this uh construction is taking off.
The economy is booming on every front, and it's all because we put common sense conservative principles into place.
I say it like this conservative principles build cities, states, and nations.
Leftist ideas destroy them.
Well, Lieutenant Governor, great state of North Carolina, Mark Robinson.
By the way, just to let you know, I'm not giving up.
I don't give up easily.
I uh I fight for things that I want.
And now, you know, you giving me a hard no is not good.
Now you just basically that's a declaration of war.
Anyway, God bless you for what you do.
Uh that was awesome yesterday.
Thank you so much for uh coming on the program and speaking out.
Hope you'll come back soon.
Thank you.
I sure will any time.
All right, quick break.
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Uh we got a great Hannity tonight, nine Eastern Fox News, as we continue this unbelievable assault on the police in this country and their inability to do their jobs in spite of all the evidence and pol you know, all these deaths that take place.
You don't we don't hear their names, do we?
Well why?
Why only why only the cases that liberal democrats that claim they have a monopoly of compassion for minorities and poor people in America, meanwhile, their policies create more poverty, it creates more dependency.
They have not in these big cities and states run by liberal democrats for decades, they they've not lifted a finger to keep their citizens safe and secure.
Our fellow Americans safe and secure in their homes in their cities.
They have the worst school systems as well.
It's time for a change.
That's all there is to it.
Uh that's why I want to deputize each and every one of you and realize the time is now to work on ensuring election integrity as we discussed in the last half hour, and to elect the right people, both on a statewide basis and and we have to have Republicans elected to the Senate and take back the House.
And then we need a new president in 2024, not Kamala Harris.
All right, let's go to let's see here.
Adam is in Texas.
Adam, how are you, sir?
Glad you called.
Hey, hey, Sean.
I'm uh I'm great.
I'm a little disappointed, I gotta be honest.
Um of the information that Kareem yesterday was giving out in Pastor Scott about um asking police officers to shoot at the extremities and legs of their suspects is just outright ridiculous.
Uh the firefighter EMT in California for eight years, and uh four of which I spent on an ALS unit surrounded by paramedics, and anybody would tell you that a femoral or brachial injury is in the field is something that's gonna be very difficult to care for, considering you only have about 90 seconds for the brachial and less than ninety before somebody passes away for the femoral.
If you're gonna nick it, you're talking about an if somebody if you ca if you catch an artery in somebody's neck or or arm or leg, right, or carotid artery, right?
Yes, sir.
So what basically what he said was in the shoulder and the upper arm, upper lip, buttoc area, you got a spinal column, you got lungs.
I mean, it's just basic education of the musculoskeletal system for some that would go a long way.
But then if they actually thought it through, Sean, if they saw it through for a second, they would realize that they'd have to spend a whole lot of money sending officers to become at least an EMT level, because what's gonna happen with the media mob when they shoot somebody in the leg and then the officer lets them die in the street from a femoral artery wound.
You see, even yeah, and you're making great points here because uh even if they could do that, it's i i you're you're dealing with factors that they just know not what the consequences would be.
There's a reason why I I say I I would prefer if I God forbid or anybody is is in uh a conflict close quarters.
I I much rather go up against a firearm than a knife.
People don't understand it.
I'm telling you, I'm uh I just I have a much better I'm I like my odds better of getting that one shot offline um versus you know trying to grab somebody's knife or strip it.
Now on the other side of it is you aim for somebody's leg, it's the smallest target.
The likelihood of hitting somebody directly or ricocheting is greater, right?
And and it and it's also not even likely that it's gonna stop in this instance the force or the thrust when somebody's loaded like that and about to thrust that thing into somebody's chest.
And aren't we trying to limit the responsibility of the police officers right now?
So this is totally contra uh contradictory.
I mean you're trying to limit the responsibility of the officers.
Take away their guns, take away but at the same time you want to hold them civilly liable.
You know, it's just the whole system is the cost of the city.
Let's say, you know, for example, these somebody survived one of these shootings.
Okay, let's say everything goes perfectly with uh Miss Bryant incident.
Officer fires at uh an extremity, the girl, the uh victim is okay, EMSI does good care.
What are we gonna do after?
I mean, how that woman's probably not gonna want to go to work.
You know, she's probably not gonna want to contribute, she probably can't.
If you shoot somebody in the buttocks and you hit the spine, they're gonna be paralyzed.
I mean, who's gonna pay for that?
Where where are we going with this conversation is what I'm trying to figure out, and I was so disappointed in Kream and uh Pastor Scott because I really like the message and I really I think that they have something positive they can do with their committee and the urban revitalization, but it's exploding all over media social media now because you have large heads of groups like this just ignorantly talking out of the side of their neck in my opinion.
Well, thanks for the work that you've done saving people's lives.
I think it's actually one of the coolest things.
I have a nephew who uh is an EMT and he does this and he probably wants to go to medical school now, but and I gotta tell you something.
I mean, it's a passion for people to, you know, deal with people with heart attacks and and wounds such as those you're describing and and the satisfaction, the personal satisfaction of you know, coming home some days knowing that if you hadn't been there, that person wouldn't be around today.
Uh you you can't match that in in many professions.
But anyway, Adam, we appreciate it, buddy.
Thank you.
I gotta I gotta get the hell out of here.
Florida, Texas, uh Montana.
I don't South Dakota, where are we going?
We gotta get out of here.
We're so stupid to stay in New York and California, New Jersey.
It's nuts, Illinois.
Uh Brad is in Georgia.
What's up, Brad?
How are you?
Hey, uh, good afternoon, Sean.
Uh thank you for having me.
Thank you, sir.
I'm retired, uh, law enforcement from uh South Florida.
I currently live in Georgia.
I'm retired happily in Georgia.
Well, thank you for your service to your community.
How many years?
Sean, thirty-one years.
Wow.
That's a long time.
It's a long career.
Good for you.
Thank you.
And thank you for your unwavering support of law enforcement.
Um what I wanted to share with you today is uh listening to yeah, I listen to your show all the time, watch your show on TV.
Um the law enforcement, uh I'm sure you've had other callers on this subject, but you know, a law enforcement officer does not start their shift uh anticipating, you know, that they're gonna go out and have to use deadly force.
As a matter of fact, that's the one thing that law enforcement officers dread the most is ever having to cross that line to deadly force.
Um I've been in that situation myself.
And when you get called to what we call a hot call where there's a fight, there's weapons involved.
Um when we get dispatched to the call, we're relying on information from radio.
We don't know who's going to be on scene.
We hope to get good information.
We don't get to pick the sex or the or the uh race of who's there.
We just are responding to that call for service.
And the officer up in Ohio that had to he was in a catch twenty-two, and he used deadly force, and I in my opinion, I think it's uh appropriate.
Uh but it's also what I think we're missing, and I haven't heard much of on any show, is the uh subsequent trauma that the officer involved that had to use deadly force goes through.
And it it it it's really uh quite a lot, Sean.
It's and that's why center mass is the target because of so many obvious reasons.
Uh it's less likely that somebody would miss and hit an innocent person in this case.
Look how close the the per person that was trying to stab this other young girl in a in a pink outfit.
Um I mean, you have a fraction of a second.
There was no other alternative in this scenario, and I talk about non-lethal alternatives a lot.
I talk about more training a lot.
In this scenario, you need and you had a highly skilled marksman.
That was not an easy shot from that distance.
I know it looks close, it's not as close as you think.
And when somebody when a perpetrator or an aggressor is about to kill some an innocent unarmed person and they're that close, you have to be an expert.
Because if you miss and you hit the the innocent person, I mean you're gonna have to live with that the rest of your life.
Nobody wants to live with that your rest of your life.
That's correct, Sean.
Yes, it's our training in most law enforcement agencies, I'm sure, across the country.
Firearms training, we are trained to fire or shoot for center mass.
And just what you just said about the trauma and the situation that I was involved in during my career, Um it's baggage that an officer is going to carry with them for the rest of their lives.
And I actually have terrible.
I mean, I I listen, I have cop friends that have been through horrible situations.
They never get over it.
They they they they don't they they don't go to work every day.
The people I know the good cops out there, the 99%, they don't go to work to kill somebody.
They go to work, they're willing to put their life at risk for others to protect and serve.
It's a calling, it's not even a job.
I mean, if they want to make more money in a lot of departments, you're better off doing anything else.
Um you know, it's if you want to make more money, work really hard and fewer hours, you know.
You can work in sanitation for for New York City.
Those guys make a I'm serious, they make a good living.
Yes.
And I have friends that do it, they love their jobs.
They do their routes and they can get it done sometimes in two hours, they're done.
As long as they get that route done, they they move and they haul and they work really hard, and then they you know, either have other jobs or they go home and you know, do the things they like to do.
But thank you for your service.
It is an emotional toll.
I I I don't think it's just sometimes people have to put themselves in other people's situation.
That's why I say there's never a routine traffic stop for a cop.
For that cop, they have no idea usually what's on the other side, or sometimes they know what's on the other side is somebody has a warrant out for their arrest, and that becomes problematic.
And and in the case of of this one guy, you know, he had a a gun violation, and they knew they knew that when that accidental shooting took place.
Um that act accidental discharge.
I'm gonna tase you, I'm gonna tase you.
Taser, taser, taser.
Officer Potter, oh shif.
She made a mistake.
And it was a deadly mistake.
And now people are gonna want to put her in jail for the rest of her life, not even listen to to her side of what happened and how that happened.
Better training, sure.
I'm all for it.
Um thank you, sir.
Appreciate it.
Chris in Texas, Chris, how are you?
Hey, Sean, great to speak to you today.
Um a couple things.
Oh, you're welcome.
A couple things regarding the LeBron Jameson uh situation.
I don't think it's being properly put into perspective that you're dealing with someone who is content to be ignorant.
Okay.
You don't say the thing that he says on Twitter, and you're not content to be ignorant.
Um it's just like when he tweeted out that one time that blacks are being hunted, totally ignorant and incorrect.
Now, the question, the question what I what I'd love to see someone do with LeBron James is actually hold him accountable since he's hashtag accountability on that tweet he did.
And someone just to say, hey, LeBron, let me ask you a quick question.
If that was your daughter, or one of your one of your family or loved ones as a that was moments away from getting stabbed, would you have told a police officer not to shoot?
And then just pause.
Because he really needs to answer that.
I agree with you.
I think that's a fair question.
Once you realize that what you said was incorrect and this law enforcement officer actually saved a life and he's a hero, are you mad enough to tweet out an apology to this law enforcement officer?
I said the same exact thing.
I think he should.
I've obviously it's not gonna be forthcoming.
The it there are two issues here.
I think you you you've you've hit on one.
If that was your daughter, and you know, we had the the guest on yesterday, Kareem, and he wouldn't answer the question.
I kept asking him, and I went at him pretty hard because it's such a key question.
It's such an important question.
And there's another factor in all this too, is and I'm not a boycotter.
I don't support cancels, I don't call for people to be cancelled, I don't call for people to be deplatformed.
I I don't call for boycotts.
Uh If I don't like something, I don't have to watch it, and I have many choices and many options out there.
And so I would say this, unfortunately, and the NBA has seen a massive decline in their ratings.
I mean, I've seen them.
I mean, my show's killing them in the middle of the playoffs for crying out loud.
I mean, it's it's it's a pretty remarkable trend where reliably in the past they'd have very, very high viewership.
And it's you see the same thing with other sports as well.
I think the one thing that we always got out of sports that nobody ever factored in was we unite people with sports.
You know, you have people of all backgrounds coming together, cheering on the exact same team and and doing it with the same passion.
And yeah, I it's just if LeBron James were to take the position that he has with 50 million people, and by the way, if it was a conservative, they'd be canceled off Twitter at Jack would have deplatformed them, take them off, taking them off.
But if you somebody like LeBron James, that is, you know, idolized by so many for his incredible gifts and talents, right?
And if he were to use that and start a foundation, a cause, and I know he has one, but an but if he cares about this particular issue, pick a city, pick a town, start with one, move build it to 50.
I think the fans of LeBron James would rally around it rather than make it in the divisive way.
What nobody listens to me, Chris.
Gotta run though, Chris.
Thank you.
800 941 Sean, our number.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today and this radio week.
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Uh the latest on the police tensions in the country, the left calling everything racist, including opposition to DC statehood.
Leo 2.0 Terrell, Candace Owens join us tonight.
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