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All right, 74 days.
I've been telling you, and we've been right.
We've been ahead of the curve, where there's no hyperbole, no exaggeration, the single most important midterm in our lifetime.
And it's all coming to fruition.
They couldn't stand Trump.
They mocked, they ridiculed him the minute he and Melania came down the escalator in 2015 at Trump Tower.
They laughed at the idea that he was running.
They laughed at the idea he'd win the nomination.
They couldn't they couldn't fathom any scenario.
Even on no even November 8th, 2016, they couldn't fathom that Hillary would lose.
The exit polls showed that Donald Trump lost everything.
He lost Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina.
He lost Michigan.
He lost Wisconsin.
He lost Ohio.
He lost it all.
It was a wipeout.
The media, well, we have it on good authority.
The exit polls are showing that, well, it looks very good for Hillary Clinton today.
Not even close.
He did the impossible.
He won North Carolina, Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.
And guess what?
We're benefiting as a country, but that doesn't matter.
It's always been, and we had no idea these deep state operatives were involved in all the shenanigans they were involved in.
And now it's become what I've told you.
Now it's become what I've been saying for months.
This election is about five major things.
They want to impeach Trump, but they're not telling you what they want to do.
That it's about Obamacare.
Had that work out for you, keeping your doctor, your plan and paying less.
Good luck with that.
It's about they want the crumbs back.
Pelosi said it, Elizabeth Warren has said it, that they're crumbs, nothing but crumbs.
If they're crumbs, why can't we keep the crumbs?
You know what?
Sometimes if you're hungry, crumbs might not be so bad.
I mean, there's a reason that if you have dogs and love dogs like I do, that if the crumbs fall from the table, the dogs are loving it.
And if that's all you got's crumbs, you're gonna take the crumbs.
That's the way it's gonna roll.
And of course, we know they want to eliminate ice.
They want open borders.
They think there's a lot of voters that'll come into the country that'll be Democrats.
That's their hope there.
And then last but not least, all their friends that are involved in all of this corruption that we have been literally out on a limb exposing.
They want all their friends protected.
Remember, if Hillary won, you wouldn't know the name struck page, Comey, McCabe, Yates.
You wouldn't know any of this.
None of this would be known.
And the fact, you know, just go through everything that we know because it's breathtaking.
It's staggering.
You can't even really even believe that it's America.
That all of this is happening in the United States of America.
But here it is.
Every day we talk about it.
Every day we tell you about It.
Every day there's new information about it.
Every day the media ignores it, and all they do is they they go on whatever the whatever the talking point of the day is stormy, stormy, stormy Russia, Russia, Russia.
But there are very, very specific things that they want to do if they are elected.
And they one of them is to get rid of the deep state.
And I sent this question.
You know, with all the talk, all right, we got manna for it.
We got him on not paying his five tax fraud charges.
He didn't file his taxes at the right way from 2010 or whatever onwards, 2009 onwards.
And then of course he lied on loan applications.
Then we get Michael Cohn this week.
We got taxi medallions and the same issue with taxes and the same issue with loan applications.
There are lessons we can take away from all of this.
Don't lie to the FBI, or even if you don't lie to the FBI like General Flynn and they illegally surveil you, they're gonna basically make you sign a plea agreement because you've run out of money and you have to sell your house.
Maybe that's the way the special counsel, you know, thanks people for their service, 30 years or plus of serving the United States of America.
You don't get the benefit of the doubt, even though the FBI interviewers and James Comey and Peter Strzok all thought that General Flynn was telling the truth.
But we'll make them sign that paper.
Otherwise, well, we're gonna have to go after your family.
And like what father's not gonna dive on the sword and say, I'll take the hit for my kids and my wife and everybody else.
So then you're squeezed.
Oh, excuse me.
They put the screws to you and the hopes you sing or compose, like uh Judge Ellis said.
So then you can prosecute or impeach Trump, which has always been their goal.
But back to the point.
So we've got everything out of the way about lying to the FBI, everything out of the way, but you gotta pay your taxes.
I advise you all to pay your taxes.
And if you're applying for a loan, don't make up BS on the loan application.
That's all a bad idea.
And that's what we learned this week.
Did we learn anything about Russia?
Nope.
Anything about collusion in 2016?
Nope.
Did we learn anything about uh campaign irregularities of Donald Trump?
Nope.
Well, Michael Cohn did say that he did it at the at the direction of Donald Trump, but he had said just the opposite, which I'm sure was part of the plea deal.
He got a better deal because that was in the plea deal.
Those words probably saved him five years in jail.
And at that point, who can blame Michael Cohn?
We're gonna get to Lanny Davis's stuff in in just a second here.
But these are the five things that are going to impact this election.
That they want to impeach the president, they want their crumbs back, they want to keep Obamacare, they want open borders, and they don't want to be exposed.
Because we know that there were people in the highest levels of the FBI and DOJ that rigged an investigation into Hillary Clinton.
In other words, that they literally were writing an exoneration in May of 2016, written by Strzok and Comey, um, before they ever interviewed Hillary or 17 other key witnesses.
They didn't interview her till July 2nd, 2016, and Comey exonerated her on the on the 5th of July, three days after, July 2nd to July 5th.
You know, and I I'm asking the Department of Justice this week, you know, with all this back and forth with the attorney general and the president, does the attorney general think that Hillary Clinton violated the law?
It's either legal or illegal to have a private server with top secret classified information on it, or it's not.
It's either a crime and a violation of the law and a felony as the espionage act says to destroy such information.
I don't recommend that if any of you are ever subpoenaed by Congress, by a court, or by anybody that you delete your emails and that you wipe your hard drives clean and that you bust up your devices where maybe those emails landed with a hammer.
I don't advise it.
I don't think it's gonna end well for you.
And that's what I'm asking the Department of Justice.
That's what the president's saying.
Well, I agree with Jeff Sessions.
We don't want to politicize the Department of Justice, but these are fair questions.
Are these crimes or not?
You know, is the attorney general concerned about the exoneration before investigation?
You know, then we can move on to the Pfizer issue.
You know, does the attorney general believe Pfizer court judges were lied to?
Now that we know the bulk of information, Grassley Graham, newness memos told us that the bulk of information presented to the Pfizer courts was the steel dossier that Hillary Clinton bought and paid for by funneling money through a law firm so it doesn't show up as a op research expense, then funnel to fusion GPS, then the hiring of a foreign national.
I thought that was bad.
We shouldn't have foreign nationals influencing our elections that then results in a dossier full of Russian lies that even the author of the dossier doesn't stand by when he was pressed under the threat of perjury in Great Britain and an interrogatory.
Oh, I don't know if it's true.
It's just raw intel.
Maybe 50-50.
You know, flip a coin.
How did that become the basis of a Pfizer warrant to spy on an American, not just any American?
In the middle of a presidential campaign, a Trump campaign associate American.
And is the is the AG concerned that these applications to spy on this quote American that they never revealed, even though they knew that Hillary Clinton and the DNC paid for those lies through the funneled money to the op research firm, to the former spy and the foreign influence in the campaign.
Nobody involved in these Pfizer warrants ever even bothered to independently verify, corroborate the salacious contents, details in the dossier used to obtain the Pfizer warrants.
The people, in other words, that signed off on it.
The people that when they put their name on it, as Rod Rosenstein did on the last application, the third subsequent application, the third renewal application, four in total.
You know, and he said in May, what did he say?
That, oh, we have an oblique.
We put our name to it, we've got to know that it's true.
Well, it wasn't true.
And we know now, and even Lanny Davis is saying that the comments about Michael Cohn aren't true.
You know, being in Prague, not true.
You know, but they all signed their name to it.
They all signed off on it.
Steve Steele's telling he still doesn't even believe his own dossier.
And you still have people in the media still pushing this.
Well, we don't know that it's debunked.
Yeah, we do know it's debunked.
You got the guy's passport.
It doesn't have Prague stamped on it.
Lie.
There's no evidence of hookers peeing in a bet in the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow.
Wrong, lie, debunked.
Why is that bad?
Well, good question, Hannity.
Why is it bad?
It's bad because that dossier, those Russian lies were designed to literally lie to everybody.
All the American people.
So when they leaked the contents of the dossier and the rumor, the lies, the propaganda, the misinformation, the distortion, they're meant to influence your vote with Russian lies.
So you'll vote a certain way.
And it didn't work out for any of them.
And all those people, just to bring it full circle, they're now pissed off.
All their efforts, all their conspiring, all of these activities never gave them the result that they wanted.
In the words of Peter Strzok, we will stop him.
They didn't stop him.
Now we're in the insurance policy point in this whole thing.
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Because I think I know the answer.
But I'm not going to tell you right now.
Because I got to take a break.
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Oh, by the way, the president put a hold on talks with North Korea.
Little Rocket Man's back to his old tricks, and he's not moving fast enough.
Quick break, right back.
We'll continue.
Fighting the Trump-hating liberal media one day at a time.
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I got I get friends who went, you know, that really sucks what you just did.
I said, what?
You know, I'll tell you where it's gonna end right after this message.
I'm not I didn't do it on purpose.
I have a clock that I have to follow here, or my Cox affiliates go absolutely nuts when I go over.
And I love all my cock stations so much, WSB and OKV and HIO and KRMG.
They're just I get it.
They have a very strict traffic and weather together schedule that I can't miss.
Um, this is where it's gonna end.
I know the media is recycling all news, old news all the time.
And I know that you've heard a lot in the last couple of days.
Oh my gosh.
Uh this guy, David uh Packer of uh of the National Inquirer and Dylan Howard Dillon's been on this program before.
We like Dylan.
We get along with Dylan and the Dylan, and they've both got immunity.
Did you see it?
Hannity, you didn't see the news.
And then we find out that the you know, Trump C CFO got immune.
Let me let me calm everyone's hearts here.
It's old news.
It was all a part of the lead up to the Michael Cohn plea that took place this this week.
Now that doesn't answer the question, where is this gonna end?
It's gonna end this way, in my opinion.
I think that the fight is still ongoing, but Muller knows at this point, especially after the the whole release that the White House counsel, Don McGann had spent 30 hours with Muller.
Well, that's ostensibly talking to the president.
Now, in 30 hours, let's say they do get an interview with the president, and the president is says one or two or three things that conflict with Don McGann's recollection.
Now, this goes back a while that Don McGahn testified, and they're acting like this is new news.
It's not.
They recycle the old news all the time.
Big breaking news.
Look at this.
Like it's not big breaking news.
It's like they're lying to you because they want to artificially pump this up.
So the president would be in a perjury trap.
And what when Rudy said, well, truth isn't truth.
What he's saying there is if the president's recollection of something doesn't exactly match, say, Don McGann's recollection of something, then it will be up to the special prosecutor to determine who is telling the truth.
Now let's say Don McGahn's, I'm not making it up.
His recollection was wrong, and the president's was right.
We already know they hate Trump.
He can't win.
They are the deciders in that moment.
And in that sense, lying to the, you know, lying under oath then becomes a play.
And that's the perjury trap.
How it ends, I'll get into more details, but this is the summary.
Robert Muller, at this point, my guess is he doesn't subpoena the president, but he might.
Still out there.
He writes a report.
It is going to be an impeachment roadmap should the Democrats win in 74 days.
You don't think this is the most important midterm in your life?
Think again.
I'll pick it up here when we get back.
Immediately thereafter, there's gonna be a Giuliani report is my guess.
And then it's gonna be okay, the American people decide.
All right, 25 till the top of the hour.
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Um look, that's the way I think it's gonna end.
Do I know for sure?
No.
Am I following it closely?
Yes.
Am I worried and concerned?
Absolutely.
Uh I'm not one that ever takes for granted the vote of the people.
And if you want to know how I think this end, I would argue that based on the team that Muller has put together, the actions that he has taken, the fanaticism of the people on his team, you know, how how do you get away with hiring Jeannie Ray, once an attorney for the Clinton Foundation, to be part of your special counsel team.
Now, that seems abusively biased to me, but what do I know?
Especially considering, oh, this is the guy that beat Hillary Clinton.
And the fact that we've gone gone so far from where we were, you know, that the mandate has exceeded anything to do with Russia, to the point where Judge Ellis says, okay, considering a filing of the Manafort campaign that that Mueller had exceeded his mandate in jurisdiction by even getting into taxes and real estate loans with money that had nothing
to do at all with Russia, which preceded any relationship with Donald Trump, which had nothing to do with the 2016 campaign.
But then after Judge Ellis views the information, he concludes yeah, the mandate's that broad and that wide.
It's basically like taking, let's say you live on a bay, and let's say you can see the other side of the bay, and that would be like taking a net from one side and putting it all the way down to the bottom and going all the way across.
You're gonna catch everything.
Anything that's there, you're gonna catch.
That's a fishing expedition.
That's what we've we've seen happen here.
You know, remember Papadopoulos and General Flynn and Paul Manafort and Michael Cohn.
If there's no Robert Mueller, and there's no Trump collusion, ridiculousness, then we don't get here.
You know, think of all the people that have worked in the White House.
You know, remember Hope Hicks worked in the White House.
I guarantee, I don't know for sure, I'm just guessing, but I guarantee you that the legal bills for people that worked with Donald Trump.
This would include Rice Previs and Steve Banner.
Forget about the personalities, whether you like this one, don't like this.
Doesn't matter.
I guarantee you the legal bills alone for each one of those individuals probably exceeded whatever they were getting paid to work in the White House.
To the point it's not worth working in the White House anymore for anybody.
And this is person after person after person after person.
Now, I understand the thinking of Ty Cobbs and John Dowd, and maybe they're gonna be proven to be right in the end, because maybe I couldn't understand or wrap my mind around the idea that the White House counsel who represents the president is there to represent the president,
would ever talk to a special counsel, which makes zero sense to me to this day, except that maybe that is the secret sauce, along with a 1.4 million documents they sent over in the hopes that this would put things to rest pretty easy.
You know, that maybe that's what ends it.
But it's gonna end, I think.
Now I don't know about the subpoena issue.
I don't think that the special counsel, my guess is the following.
My guess is Robert Muller wants the subpoena.
You don't hire Andrew Weisman with his background and track record of what, tens of thousands of Americans losing their jobs when he was doing the Enron case, because and that all ended up, you know, a loser in the U.S. Supreme Court 9-0.
Same guy that put Merrill executives in jail for a year, but that was overturned by the Fifth Circuit.
I guess people don't really give a rip if it's not them.
And but those people went to jail for a year.
I'm sure it was hell.
I'm sure it sucked for the years leading up to this and the defense and the decision or the deal, whichever it was at the time.
I'd have to bring Sidney Powell back on, who wrote all about this.
But why do you put somebody like that on your team if you're trying to be fair and balanced?
How does Bruce Orr have a job?
Random thought at this point.
He's been demoted twice.
We know 70 contacts that he's had with Christopher Steele before and after the election.
Uh, we know he's anti-Trump.
We know his wife worked for fusion GPS.
I mean, can you get any more?
Can this get any more insane?
Now we've gone from Russia collusion, then we go to taxicaps.
Huh?
What is what and and tax filings from years before Donald Trump ever really thought he'd run for president.
And then what do we got?
We got tax, we got tax fraud, lying on bank loan applications.
Good grief.
It is just unbelievable.
Now, my guess is that the special counsel probably wants to subpoena the president, which could lead to another year, 18-month fight.
Although others say it could be quite much faster.
They probably could even expedite that.
But even in an expedited fashion, it's going to be a constitutional war if it happens.
And I don't think Trump's attorneys ever give in, nor do I think I think at this point, I don't think Trump will talk to them.
Why should he?
It's a perjury trap.
Who wants to be in a perjury trap?
Domagine talks to the special counsel for 30 hours.
Okay.
He gives his best recollection.
I'm not questioning his integrity.
I'm just questioning why they would ever give up that privilege that they have.
He didn't have to testify.
They didn't have to hand over a single document.
But they're cooperating.
They're trying to get this behind us.
Most exculpatory evidence comes from James Comey himself in this case.
When he puts in his notes that Donald Trump said to him, Oh, I didn't have anything to do with any collusion, but if anybody around me did, well, we need to get to the bottom of that.
Anyway, so he can't testify.
So there could be a fight over that, but probably there's got to be some sense of desire.
I I just I've got to believe that even though people have views that's so alien to my own, that there's got to be some thought here on the impact of the country, what the hell is going on here?
And how divided the country is.
You know, at the end of all of this, it's not going to be whoever works for Mueller's name on this history.
It's going to be Muller's name on this.
So if he wants that subpoena fight, we'll see what happens.
It'll go to the Supreme Court at some point.
Why Democrats are trying to use it.
Well, we can't confirm Brent Kavanaugh.
Yeah, you can.
Brett Kavanaugh can't be, yes, he can be objective.
Yes, he can.
Um, but I think that Muller's gonna write a report.
And I think that it is going to be for the Democrats their roadmap.
And I think the roadmap is one of how to impeach Donald Trump, how to overturn the election.
This is the insurance policy on steroids unfolding before our eyes.
And I don't think it's gonna have anything.
They'll mention Russia a lot in the report.
And they're gonna talk about the the equivalence of the Russian, formerly a KGB of Russia, the Russian intel people that they indicted that'll never ever come to America and be put on trial.
These are indictments that are meaningless.
They're put in place just to say Russia, I believe.
And I believe just like the Russian bot companies.
They're put in place just to save Russia, Russia, Russia.
I don't think Mueller and his team ever thought these bot companies, and I believe they're real.
I'd I I but there's no doubt Russia's a hostile regime.
There's no doubt Putin is a is a corrupt actor on the world stage and an antagonist of the United States.
He's not our friend.
Doesn't mean we have to be at war with him.
Doesn't mean we can't have understandings with them.
You want to defeat Putin and Russia.
It's simple.
Produce more energy and find a way to get it to our allies in Western Europe.
Checkmate, game over finished.
Putin's done.
Russia's done.
But then you have our allies in NATO like Angela Merkel, you know, putting the lifeblood of their economy, some 75% of it, in the hands of a hostile regime and a hostile actor in Putin.
It is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
We've got to figure out a way to get oil and natural gas, which the president has now opened up over to our allies in Western Europe.
It's great for their security and ultimately our security.
And it'll create millions of high-paying jobs for the forgotten men and women of this country.
It's just basic, simple common sense.
Anyway, and then I would guess that after Mueller writes his report, and I believe, again, it is a roadmap to impeachment.
Then Juliani and Jay Seculo and that team would end up writing their report.
Again, I'm just speculating and just watching this all unfold.
It also fits the model that was set forth in the whole Clinton impeachment.
And then we'll get to a point where, you know, then if the Democrats are in power, if this happens in 74 days, this is what is at stake.
And I've been saying for now a long time.
And Hannity, you repeat yourself.
Yeah, I do.
Because I never know there's different people listening at different times.
This election is about the five things I told you.
It's about they want to impeach the president, but they don't want to tell you what they really want to do.
And they're asking people like Maxime Waters and others, shush, just don't say it.
Because we don't want because we're going to act like we have to do it.
But we're going to do it.
They've already decided.
And similarly, they'll ignore all these other issues.
This is issued item two, impeach the president, eliminate all of as it relates to the abuse of power that exonerated Hillary Clinton from what is the most egregious case of obstruction I've ever seen in my life.
A slam dunk, if any of you ever did it, and then of the espionage act, and then it gets into the Pfizer orange.
It all disappears.
In other words, those people that abuse those top positions that we have exposed, Adam Schiff shuts it down.
And then it'll be followed up, by the way, with investigation after investigation into Trump, the Trump campaign, the Trump administration, nonstop investigation.
In other words, to paralyze what is now proven to be a successful agenda that is putting Americans back to work, that is making the country safer, that is showing that that eliminating burdensome regulation, lower taxes works.
So they want to impeach the president, they want to end the investigations, they want their crumbs back, they're only crumbs, but damn, they want them back quick.
They want every penny back and maybe even more.
They want Obamacare.
That's it.
And they want open borders.
Five things.
And I've said for the longest time there are five forces working against this president.
And number one is something that probably a lot of you had not heard about a couple of years ago.
It's the deep state.
Just like many of you a couple of years ago never heard of Bleach Pit.
Whoever heard of Bleach Pit until Hillary Clinton.
Bleach pit.
If I'm the owner of Bleach Pit, I'm the happiest guy in the world.
Wow.
Bleachbit is now famous.
And Hannity gives us a free plug every time he mentions it.
You know, they're not paying for ads here.
And then, of course, you know, you just you gotta see this for what it is.
You don't think this midterm matters?
Well, if you voted for Trump and you're happy with the progress, that's what's in play.
If you're ready for the country to be torn apart, And it's gonna be a knockdown drag out brawl.
Let me, politically speaking, it's gonna be they it's gonna be the it's gonna be pretty much a declaration of a political war.
Again, again, political.
It's gonna be you're gonna have the intensity of the left that wants to bring this man and take away the power that was given to him, a duly elected president.
They're gonna want to do that.
Now, this interesting little sidebars.
By the way, the president put talks with North Korea, a little rocket man on hold today because of lack of progress, told Pompeo to cancel his thing.
Just, you know, as the Democratic media's 222 times on cable TV alone in a single day impeachment assault on the president is backfiring.
We got some poll numbers and key midterm races suddenly now moving in the GOP's direction.
Maybe this won't be a bad thing.
Washington Examiner points out Scott Walker's been trailing in his bid for a third time.
I think he's a great governor.
He won a recall election 2010, 2014.
This guy's been through more elections than anybody.
Um the Marquette poll came out this week showing Walker tied.
And Senator Tammy Baldwin, one of 10 Democrats running for re-election in a tr in Wisconsin, but she hadn't been considered especially vulnerable.
She led by 17 points.
Um, however, uh she took uh 49% of the vote um and 47 for her Republican opponent.
Well, how did that happen?
Then we got in New Jersey even.
Robert Menendez is leading by only six in New Jersey.
I mean, generic ballot polling is now tightening also.
Here's another anecdotal piece of evidence.
Politico points out that the RNC announced this week they notched up a record-breaking cash haul for July.
The impact of Cohn's guilty plea on RNC fundraising will be infinitesimal, according to some GOP donors telling Politico.
And the numbers bear him out.
14.2 million in July, the best take for a month in a midterm cycle and almost twice the amount of the Democratic Party and what they took in.
I hope that some hope that people are getting that what I've been telling you forever, these five items is what the election's about.
Believe me, I'm gonna you're gonna hear a lot of this after Labor Day.
I'm just giving you a preview of coming attractions.
Uh all right, Sarah and Greg, uh, when we come back, we had a lot to get to today.
800 941 Sean.
Also, angel families, people that lost loved ones to illegal immigrants, are gonna tell their uh, I mean, these stories break your heart, but they're trying to warn us that it can happen to anybody.
What evidence does Michael Cohn have that the president knew in advance about that controversial Trump Tower meeting that his son, his son-in-law, the campaign chairman at the time, Paul Manafort had with these Russians uh leading up to the 2016 election.
So again, at this juncture, I can only say that he was present during a discussion with junior and dad.
And beyond that, his testimony to the Senate intelligence and House Intelligence Committees was accurate.
So can you say now whether in fact Michael Cohen has information that President Trump was aware either before the Trump Tower meeting that Don Jr. was part of with uh Russian attorney claiming part uh from the Kremlin with Dirt on Hillary Clinton, either the that Michael Cohn has information the president knew about it in advance or knew about it immediately after.
Senator Burr and Senator Warner uh read the answer to the question about his testimony, which is that he said he was not aware uh ahead of time and did not hear um anything to the contrary, and that was the testimony before the Senate as well as the House intelligence committees, and he said that that testimony was accurate.
So Michael Cohen does not have information that President Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting with the Russians beforehand, or even the president's entitled to attorney general faith in, somebody that's qualified for for the job.
And I think there will come a time sooner rather than later where it will be time to have a uh new face and a fresh force at the Department of Justice.
Clearly, uh Attorney General Sessions doesn't have the confidence of the president.
And uh all I can say is that I have a lot of respect for the attorney general, but uh that's that's an important office in the country.
And uh there after the election, I think there'll be some serious discussions about a new attorney general.
All right, that was Lindsey Graham yesterday, and that made big news along with Charles Grassley.
Uh Bob Corker, who's leaving Congress, can't stand the president, told political he feels moves are being made to bring about Sessions ouster from the Department of Justice.
It's apparent to me the president's wants to do something to Attorney General Sessions, but it's also apparent that in the interim that Sessions owns him.
Now, I'm not sure why why does it have to be so personal, and as much as could it really just be as the Attorney General clearly doesn't like the president at this point when he said yesterday that the actions of the Department of Justice will not be improperly influenced by political considerations?
Nobody's asking for political considerations.
All people are asking for is did Hillary commit crimes?
And if she did, why isn't she indicted?
Did Warfizer court judges lie to?
Was false, phony Russian propaganda bought and paid for by Hillary through funneled money through a law firm to hide the expense and then funneled to fusion GPS to a guy named Christopher Steele, a foreign agent, and that he present and and propagate Russian lies,
and were the American people lied to so they'd vote a certain way before the 2016 election, and was the bulk of that information the basis for not one but four FISA court warrants against Carter Page, a drum campaign associate.
That's what it is.
Does he believe Hillary violated the law?
Top secret information on her server that she obstructed when she deleted and and hard drives erased and devices destroyed.
You know, is are they concerned about the exoneration written before the investigation?
Does Sessions think the Pfizer court judges were lied to?
Was there a fraud on the court?
Was it wrong not to reveal Hillary paid for that information?
Was it wrong not to say that uh even the guy himself to put it together, Christopher Steele didn't even stand by his own dossier?
Is he concerned about the wave of firings and resignations and de and emotions at his Department of Justice because of rampant bias, abuse of power, corruption, and lying.
Why is Bruce Orse still employed there?
Is he concerned that nobody verified the information in the phony dossier?
Anyway, uh here to join us on all this.
Sarah Carter, investigative reporter, Fox News contributor, and Greg Jarrett, his book, yep, still number one.
New York Times bestseller, The Russian hoax.
Uh, thank you both for being with us.
Uh Sarah, you wrote extensively on the session Trump viewed yesterday.
Yes, and it's obvious now that there's a point being reached in Apex in Congress, so to speak, uh, both in the Senate and the House, where look, this is doing more damage to the country than good.
The relationship, you know, between Jeff Sessions and the president is very contentious.
Uh, obviously, they don't trust each other.
The president needs somebody there, and it's his right to have somebody there that he can count on, somebody there that he actually has a working relationship with.
We know that relationship for now has been really damaged.
And the the point here, Sean, is not about whether or not what the president wants to interfere or doesn't want to interfere.
I think what people in the Senate and the House are seeing, um, those that I've spoken with are saying, look, this is detrimental to the country.
The best thing that could happen is for Jeff Sessions to either resign or to be removed.
And uh, you know, and they give the president all the authority to do so.
The the few that are supporting him in this.
I think the bigger question is here is what is Sessions thinking?
What does he want to do?
I mean, well, it's obvious he expressed himself yesterday.
He he doesn't think much of the president.
He, you know, I called over there, and to be fair to the Department of Justice, they actually took my call.
They answered my questions, and the answer was what I always get from them, which I understand is what they have to say and do, but they can't comment on any ongoing investigation or potential investigation.
So, in other words, they won't c you know, they won't even confirm that anything's being looked into.
And the public watches all of the double standard, and I think most people are pissed.
They are.
They're angry.
People are angry.
Every every person that writes to me, that writes to you, I'm sure, is frustrated and angry.
This is the regular, this is America.
These are the people that aren't even involved in the Washington bubble who are so frustrated at watching the Mueller team special counsel go after everybody around Donald Trump, offering immunity deals to everyone.
And then they look at what happened with Hillary Clinton and they look at what's been happening with the FISA abuse scandal and even with Rod Rosenstein and his involvement in ethical conflicts that have arisen from him actually asking the president to fire James Comey and pointing out very clearly in his literature.
letter to President Trump that the reasons why Comey should have been fired, and now somehow he's in charge of overseeing this uh special counsel, which is including obstruction chart, you know, wants to move into obstruction against the president.
So there is a lot of frustration here.
I think the biggest question here is what is Jeff Sessions going to do.
Is he going to force himself to sit there?
I mean, who the heck wants to work for someone who absolutely does not trust them and he doesn't trust the president.
So this I think really the ball is in um attorney general Jeff Sessions court.
I know there's a lot of people that like him, even people that want him to leave that like him, that are saying, Look, you know, uh Attorney General Sessions, you've been there for two years, you've done your job, or you haven't done your job, and uh it's time for you to move on.
So I I think that you know, according to them, the right thing for him to do would be to just submit his letter of resignation and you know, tell the president, you know.
I don't think that's gonna happen.
And let me just bring Greg into this discussion because I think in a weird way, although it's not true, in a weird way, Corker is right.
Because in a sense, the president is savvy enough, the people around him savvy enough to know that if the president fired Jeff Sessions, we know how it would portray and play out in the media and play out among Democrats, and that is a Saturday night massacre.
I mean, they mentioned two hundred and twenty-two times uh in a day impeachment.
This is all the media and Democrats really care about at this point.
Well, if Jeff Sessions had an ounce of integrity and conscience, he would resign.
Should have done it a long time ago.
Every day, Jeff Sessions is the attorney general.
He is doing more and more damage to the Department of Justice, to the FBI, to Congress, which is seeking lawful documents that the DOJ refuses to turn over.
Sessions is doing enormous damage to the country.
When you've lost the confidence of the president, it is time to resign.
Any decent person.
I happen to be in one of the I am accurately described as Sarah.
I'm a guy that always liked Jeff Sessions.
I still think personally is a good guy.
I just don't think he's up for this job.
Well, there's a difference between being nice and likable, which he certainly is, and competent, which he has proven he is not.
He should never have disqualified himself from the Russia case.
He signed a wrong regulation when he did it.
He was duped, which tells me he's gullible and naive.
You know, it's easy to be one of a hundred U.S. Senators that don't frankly do very much.
Very hard to be the attorney general of the United States running the Department of Justice, and of course, underneath that, the FBI.
Uh but for his recusal, there would never have been a special counsel.
Mueller would not have been allowed to assemble a team of partisans determined to damage Trump, undo the election, and harm the nation at large.
And if you want to point the finger of blame at anybody, Jeff Sessions is the guy.
All right, let me move.
Good, yeah.
Go ahead, sir.
Well, and Sean, right on right on Greg's point, and and what you said earlier, you know, about the the Dems and those uh never Trumpers who are gonna come after President Trump if he chooses to uh replace uh attorney general Jeff Sessions.
That look, he can't even argue that this is a massacre because Jeff Sessions has already recused himself from everything Russia.
So their argument is false on its face.
I mean, y if he was in charge of the whole Russia investigation and he was working against the president, okay, I could see that.
But they can't make this argument that this is the massacre when Sessions really has already recused himself from everything Russia and it appears everything else.
So this is a problem about having the right people in place in your administration to get the job done.
And a president needs to be able to communicate with his attorney general.
That is an absolute fact.
Look, Eric Holder was uh, you know, with uh President Obama for years, he was very close to President Obama.
They were they were allies, they stuck to you know each other like glue, they were always on the same page.
This president has the right, as every other president, to have somebody that he can work with, and it's impossible for the president to work with somebody when there's a broken trust.
Well, I think that's all that's all legitimate.
And and frankly, I don't think Sessions likes the president, and that's fine.
You know, people at times don't get along with each other.
Uh, I want to get into another issue that has come up and and been reported.
There's actually four separate issues.
That you have uh this guy, David Pecker, uh Dylan Howard, they both work for AMI and and that would be the National Inquirer, um, and they're both very well known.
Uh then we have the report that the Trump organization, CFO uh also has been given immunity, that all three of them have been given immunity, and that the Manhattan District Attorney is now looking into issues involving the Trump organizations, charity, et cetera, et cetera.
Well, the first point is is that we've known for a long time that the Trump organization CFO testified already.
And we know that this goes back a number of months as it relates to the national inquirer.
And what we're now experiencing, Greg Jarrett, is something that I keep calling recycled news as if it's br big breaking earth shattering news every day.
All of this was faced factored into the Southern District of New York's plea deal with Michael Cohn.
There's nothing new here at all that they are reporting.
This is what's called piling on.
And it often happens uh, you know, especially in politics when they think somebody's down, they pile on top.
Uh let's get to the heart of it, the Michael Cohen case.
It's not a crime for the president to contribute to his own campaign.
Uh, Trump can spend an unlimited amount of money on his own campaign.
And if Cohen made a payment for him with the intent of it being reversed, uh reimbursed and it was that's an advance.
You know, at worst, it might be a civil violation, the equivalent of jaywalking and a five hundred dollar uh penalty, which is nothing compared to what Obama paid, three hundred and seventy-five thousand dollars for two million in illegal donations.
Uh beyond that, uh it's probably not even qualifying as a campaign expense.
It had another purpose to it.
He'd done it before, long before he was a candidate for personal and commercial reasons.
This was explained quite nicely by the former chairman of the Federal Election Commission, Bradley Smith, who said, you know, these payments are not illegal under campaign laws.
But try to tell that to prosecutors in the Southern District.
It's like saying he's an unended co-conspirator, but they didn't accuse they didn't accuse Michael Cohn of a conspiracy.
That's right.
Uh there has to be an um underlying crime in any conspiracy in their quick break.
Uh we'll come back more with Sarah and Greg at the bottom of this half hour, John Sail.
He used to work for the Southern District of New York.
We'll get his take on all of the week's uh unfoldings, if you will.
All right, went a little long in the last segment.
We continue with Sarah Carter, Greg Jarrett with us.
Sarah will give you the the final remarks here.
I say this airplane lands with a Mueller impeachment roadmap, if you will, should the Democrats win in seventy-four days.
Yeah, unfortunately, Sean, I would tend to agree with you on that, but look, we can't predict the future.
Uh it looks like the Republicans have a really good chance of keeping the House, uh, even if it's by a slim margin.
And I think in the end, the American people will have their final say.
They're exhausted of this Mular investigation.
They want the country to move forward.
It appears that even those never Trumpers that were in Congress are now on the president's side, some of them at least, and they're fighting to make this country better.
And I think eventually, in the end, hopefully that plane lands and it's a different ending than what you just said.
Hopefully the plane lands in America can leave.
I can't see how get back to business.
All right, uh, Sarah, Greg, thank you both.
800 nine four one Sean, uh, formerly a prosecutor in the Southern District of New York and Watergate assistant prosecutor.
Uh, we'll talk about all these matters and more straight ahead.
So can you say now whether in fact Michael Cohen has information that President Trump was aware either before the Trump Tower meeting that Don Jr. was part of with a Russian attorney claiming to be part of uh uh from the Kremlin with dirt on Hillary Clinton, either the that Michael Cohn has information the president knew about it in advance or knew about it immediately after?
Senator Burr and Senator Warner uh read the answer to the question about his testimony, which is that he said he was not aware uh ahead of time and did not hear um anything to the contrary, and that was the testimony before the Senate, as well as the House intelligence committees, and he said that that testimony was accurate.
So Michael Cohen does not have information that President Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting with the Russians beforehand, or even does not.
Prosecutors have said Michael Cohen broke the law, and Michael Cohen says the president told me to do it.
You said last night as well that you believe that every president breaks the law during an election.
I mean, really, does that make it okay?
Your quote is that every candidate violates election laws when they run for president.
Let me tell you what I said.
Candidates violate election laws all the time.
Go back and you can get back to it.
But does that make it okay?
It doesn't, but let me be very clear that the case is.
You're not taking letting me make my point.
My point is the president doesn't break the law if as a candidate he contributes to his own campaign.
So if he gave a million dollars to two women as hush money, there would be no crime.
Oh, forget about the law and what it actually says and what it actually means and everything else that we keep hearing.
You know, this this issue of is not a small issue as it relates to what was said um as it relates to you know, Lanny Davis professing that in fact that uh that Michael Cohn knowingly knew that Trump knowingly colluded with Russia and had knowledge of this meeting ahead of time and then said it.
And CNN ran with it, and the Washington Post ran with it.
And then Lanny says, Yeah, never mind.
It's like a you know, not a small detail in any respect.
We're pleased to have back John Sale is with us and his background, of course.
He worked at the very prestigious important Southern District of New York, uh, where some of the best prosecutors in the country and throughout history have actually spent time in and worked there.
How many years have you been there?
Were you there rather?
Oh, I worked in the Southern District four or five years.
Yeah.
And and you knew uh uh well, you I forgot exactly what you said.
You knew Rudy had worked there, you knew my friend Andy McCarthy had worked there, et cetera.
Oh, absolutely.
Uh I worked, I didn't work there when Rudy was the U.S. attorney.
He and I were prosecutors together.
We prosecuted a lot of cases together as a matter of fact.
You know, a lot of people say, well, why is Rudy talking so much?
Why is Rudy defending people so much?
And I was a little surprised once Trey Gowdy actually said, Well, if you're innocent, darn it, why don't you act like you're innocent?
And I'm thinking if I'm innocent, I'm gonna want to tell the world I'm innocent.
That's how I would act.
That's my natural reaction.
Well, uh there's a difference.
There's two courts the courtroom and then there's a court of public opinion.
And when you represent the president of the United States, you're naive if you don't realize you're in the court of public opinion.
Well, and I mean a big part of this now is going to be, and I really firmly believe that at at the end of the day, how this is gonna end up, and uh I don't think there's gonna be anything about Russia and Russia collusion at all.
Because I don't think it ever happened.
And I think had it happened, had there been evidence of such, we would have heard about it a long time ago now.
So you can see that this case now has branched off into all these different arenas, and it was very interesting when Judge Ellis demanded after a filing by Paul Manafort's attorneys in this most recent case that we got the judgment on, you know, eight counts guilty, ten on a hung jury.
But when Ellis said he wanted to see what it was in the mandate to Robert Mueller and whether or not a you know, a ten-year-old tax charge um and a bank fraud case of Manafort fit under the umbrella of what it is the mandate was for the special counsel.
And then that's when he made his im now infamous comment about putting the screws to mana for it.
They don't really give a rip about his taxes.
So he will sing or compose so they can prosecute or impeach Trump.
It seems that we're now off in what's he taxi medallions, lying on bank applications, paying not filing your taxes and paying the proper amount of tax, which by the way, we those are all lessons people should learn in life because you shouldn't do those things.
I'm not saying you should, but um but it seems to be really a far from what Russia collusion started out to be.
Well, the Sean the Nana the Manafort case had absolutely nothing to do with Russia, had nothing to do with the president.
But you and I can talk about this with all our sincerity, while Mr. Manafort is going to be facing possibly as much as ten years in prison for that.
And so Judge Ellis was correct in that a comment he made, uh, although it may have been a little bit injudicious, it certainly was accurate.
Uh, you know, this is a man's life, a 69-year-old man's life.
And uh this it's clear, you know, the only reason he was prosecuted ne by the special counsel was because of what they're doing.
He could have been prosecuted by another U.S. attorney's office, and it would have been judged on its merits.
Right.
In other words, the criminal system, we don't need a special counsel to go after people that didn't pay their taxes in 2010 or whatever.
No, they're those are prosecuted if it's the case is appropriate by U.S. Attorney's Office is every day.
But it seemed like they dre were dragging this out of mothballs that a decision had already been made back in 2014 not to prosecute.
Well, I mean, there the reason is obvious.
I'm not joining, frankly, in the characterizations of the Mueller's office as being on a witch hunt or the Southern District, but uh the facts are what they are.
I mean, the the Manafort case had absolutely nothing to do with uh Russia so-called collusion uh or the president.
Yet Manafort is sitting in a jail cell.
Well, and then also there are people that commit crimes, which raises a whole other question that I want to ask you about.
But first I want to ask you about Alan Dershowitz's comments.
A president can look at the payment or or the issue of the payment.
Now, number one, I think it's atrocious that Lanny Davis, I mean, now he's backtracking on what he had said, but it became a huge massive report at the time that you know he's out there telling people that Michael Cohn is information that in fact he knew that Trump knew and Trump was aware of and actually approved of the meeting at Trump Tower, etc.
with this Russian who met with fusion GPS uh leaders before and after the meeting, who turns out also to be a client of fusion GPS.
I mean, it becomes one big cluttered mess in my mind, but but it turns out Michael Cohn didn't have such information.
And yet it CNN runs with it, the news media runs with it, and then he says, Oh, never mind.
That's a big deal p in terms of the press for the president.
Well, uh Michael Cohn, what's very significant about him is he pled guilty, but he does not have a plea agreement.
Uh I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
He does not have a cooperation agreement, which means to me it's a non-cooperative plea.
In other words, is what I I think that's the proper legal legalistic yeah.
Well right, correct.
But either way you you would phrase it.
To me, it means that the prosecutors in the Southern District were not sufficiently confident that what he's telling was the truth, or to put it this way, they don't think he's a viable witness.
They think that he's told so many stories so many different ways, every which way of a Sunday, that they would not use him if they bring any kind of a case.
Then why were the words inserted in that plea agreement, the ones that got all the attention at the direction of and you're right, Michael had said something very differently.
I almost took it, and this is just total conjecture on my part, interpretation on my part.
I took it to mean they wanted that in there because that kind of sticks it to the president.
Maybe that helped Michael get a better deal.
Is that absolutely off the wall?
No, it well, it's not off the wall.
Uh I mean clearly.
You can say it by the way, even though it's my show, you can say Hannity are off the wall.
A lot of people say it every day, so it's fine.
Sean, I'm gonna say it all uh I I'm looking forward to saying it, but I can't say it about but I can't say but I can't say it I can't say it about what you just were saying.
It wouldn't be so uh in other words, well, you know, look, you know, we think that that happened and we're believing that happened, and well, here's the deal if you say it happened, and here's the deal if you don't say it happened.
I mean does with that type of thing be is that something that's possible?
Uh you know, I don't want to say what's possible, but I want to say is that in a case that frankly the whole world was watching, I don't think he would have said that as a surprise to everybody.
So although I have no inside information, I presume that the uh United States Attorney's Office knew that was going to be said and uh the but it's could have been part of a proffer deal.
What are you gonna tell us?
Well, if you tell us that we might offer this to sort of thing.
W well, but no, but you usually don't then say that in the plea.
That's kept that's kept private.
Uh it's uh uh it i it it's clearly it was said for a purpose.
Uh and uh you know that remains to be seen.
You know, what prosecutors do, all of them, is they want to go so called up the ladder.
And what they seem to be doing now is they're trying to make a case going up the ladder, and up the ladder means only one place.
You see, I believe that Robert Mueller the way this ends is that Robert Mueller writes his report, because you can't indict a sitting president.
Um if I had to guess, I was leaning that he would subpoena the president to testify, but I think I don't think after knowing that thirty hours of testimony came from the White House counsel, I can't imagine that that Robert Mueller wants that fight.
It will become an impeachment roadmap should the Democrats win in 74 days.
Is that far fetched?
Uh well Rob, the press has been calling the president an unendicted co-conspirator based upon what Michael Cohn said.
That's totally preposterous.
First of all, what Michael Cohn said is only his accusation at the worst case scenario, and he's not charged with a conspiracy.
So where's the conspiracy that the president could be uh allegedly an unindicted co-conspirator?
That is so well said.
I'm so this is why I was so impressed with you when you were on with us the last time.
And yeah, I think you're a hundred percent right, and you can indict a sitting president, but more importantly, every smart lawyer I have talked to believes that charges seven and eight in the Cone plea are not even a violation of law.
Uh I don't know.
They seem to be throw-ins, uh or public consumption.
But you know, I have to say the brilliant words we have to s uh we have to see.
Yeah.
Oh, by the way, can you repeat the part about how impressed you are with me?
I'm only t I'm only teasing.
Can you repeat the part that you look forward to beating the crap out of me like everyone else does?
I mean, that's fine.
I can handle it, obviously.
I'm a I have a big dartboard on my back.
No, I do, but you still haven't said anything to enable me to do that.
And uh so far everything you've said with has been perfectly sensible.
I'm actually fascinated by all of it, but it's sad in another sense, because if in fact I'm right and that Mueller's gonna write an impeachment roadmap and in the lead up to the election, probably released sometime in October, and then Rudy's gonna release his rebuttal to it, probably not long thereafter.
I mean, I I don't know, I don't think the country's gonna have a clue what to think, except there's not gonna be anything related to Russia in it.
And I think in that sense I wrote an article in the Hill in which I argued that the president should not talk to the Mueller uh staff.
I want to ask you about that when we get back.
And we'll pick up right there.
Stay right there.
John Sayle is with us.
He he worked in the Southern District of New York as a prosecutor at the time Rudy was there.
All right, as we can sit continue with uh John Saylor's with us, uh formerly of the Southern District of New York, former prosecutor, great insights.
You know, we were we were talking about what what Mueller might do and uh what Rudy might do in response to it.
I do think this is about impeachment, but I want to ask you about this strategy the prosecutors often use.
I call it the Sammy the Bull strategy.
Here's a guy commits nineteen murders, but if he's willing to testify against the big guy, as you were talking about earlier, John Gotti, well, we're gonna not only give you a get out of jail free card, we'll give you a new house in Arizona and put you in the witness protection program.
And we saw this with Rick Gates and the Manafort case.
He got a pretty much a get out of jail free card.
Why do I feel that's bribery?
Why do I feel that's like paying a witness to say something that there's something of great value they're getting on the other side of it?
When in fact, if you listen to the jurors, the numbers alone were enough to get Manafort in most of their eyes.
Sean, there was a case about ten years ago in which a federal judge held that that is bribery.
Now that was reversed by the appellate court, but that you're giving a thing of value uh in exchange for something, meaning the testimony that what's the thing of value.
By the way, I think about your freedom of jail card.
Yeah, your freedom.
And and and conceptually it is bribery, but there is a statute which uh would apply to everybody else, other than the the government, meaning other than the the US attorneys.
I just don't like the tactic to me.
To me, that that needs to be reformed.
Am I uh am I in a minority view here?
I'm I'm a very conservative individual.
I want to believe in law and order.
I pay my taxes.
You're in a major minority, and that tactic has been upheld uh by the Supreme Court.
Andy thinks I'm Andy Andy McCarthy thinks I'm nuts.
Do you think I'm nuts too?
Uh yeah, you're not nuts with this.
That tactic is gonna stay.
And it it can be abused.
Uh we what we need, what we really need is to rely on good judgment and fairness of prosecutors.
Most of the time we see that.
Mean prosecutial uh prosecutorial discretion.
Yeah.
Most of the time it is sad, but you know, most of the time it's not good enough.
It ought to be all the time, but it's human imperfection and the human temptation to get a big fish.
Isn't that part of it, though?
Isn't it that you know what that it's too much?
It becomes dehumanizing to some, in fact, I would even argue that they don't realize on the other side of this, you know, these witnesses for years or longer, their families, their friends, their lives, the stress, the money, and you know, Lieutenant General Flynn has to sell his home.
All right, John Sale, thank you so much.
And uh, we hope you'll come back again.
Uh my pleasure, Sean.
800 nine four one Sean, toll free telephone number.
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They have been so uh willing to move the goldpost every single time with this president, no matter what he says, no matter what he does, right?
The fact that he was even sworn in as president after the Access Hollywood tape, let me know for a fact that the Republican Party is actually not working on behalf of the American people.
They are working on behalf of Donald Trump.
And he's been able to bully them into their silence.
And I don't think that today changes much, unfortunately.
I'm sure we'll hear what he has to say about uh this at his his rally.
But Fox News is talking about, you know, a girl in Iowa, and not this.
A person has been charged with it.
This person is an undocumented immigrant.
Um Mike Pence and the president have suggested the immigration laws need to be stronger so that people like this man who was accused of this murder were not in the country.
Your reaction.
Yeah, my I'm so sorry for the family here, and I know this is hard, not only for the family, but for the people in her community, the people throughout Iowa.
Um but one of the things we have to remember is we need an immigration system that is effective, that focuses on where real problems are.
Um last month I went down to the border and I saw where children had been taken away from their mothers.
I met with those mothers who had been lied to, who didn't know where their children were, who hadn't had a chance to talk to their children, and there was no plan for how they would be reunified with their children.
I was disgusted by Senator Elizabeth Warren hearing her speak today.
And what I need what I want to say to her is stop lying to the American people because you don't care what is happening to the victims of illegal alien crime, because if you did, you would be standing up for us and you would be doing something about it.
That last uh comment was Mary Ann Mendoza, longtime friend of this program, and uh she was taking on Elizabeth Warren's stupidity and oh the MSNBC contributed because this girl in Iowa that Fox News is talking about.
Mary Ammendoza is the mother of police sergeant Brandon Mandoza.
He was killed on May the twelfth, twenty fourteen in a head-on collision, and the driver was an illegal immigrant.
Let's see, high on methamphetamine, and his blood alcohol content was over three times the legal limit.
Also joining us, another friend of the program, he too lost his son, Steve Ronneback is with us.
His son Grant was 21 years old, working overnight in a convenience store, murdered while working there in Mesa, Arizona.
The killer was an illegal immigrant who was released by ICE in 2013 after a conviction for burglary and kidnapping involving drug dealing.
If I remember correctly, in that case, it actually held a woman hostage for almost a week.
Also joining us Agnes Gibbony, her son Ronald uh DeSilva was murdered in two thousand and two in California's inland empire by illegal immigrant gang member uh Louise Gonzalez, according to uh reports in that case.
And uh it's just unbelievable.
Welcome all of you to the program.
Uh my thoughts and prayers are with all of you always.
Mary Ann, I admire your your your courage, your willingness to take on the stupidity of some that really just fight basic, simple common sense so we can protect people like your son, who you were so proud of.
Yes, and and I I am amazed daily that that these politicians um continue to protect illegal alien criminals in our country.
And like I said, on Tucker, you know, we have pleaded with them to please look at what's happening to American citizens.
And it's not just the American citizens who are killed, Sean.
I mean, there's a rape epidemic going on in North Carolina.
There's huge amounts of identity theft happening right now with our military men and women because of the leak with military information a year or so ago, and they're being affected immensely, and the the crimes just go on and on and on and on.
It's just such a deep-seated um, you know, awful thing that's happening to us, and to think that they would even refer to her as an Iowa girl as instead of standing up for their fellow American infuriates me.
Yeah, the Iowa girl has a name, and her main name is uh is Molly Tibbetts.
Your son has a name.
Steve Ronaback's uh son Grant has a name.
These are real people, real lives, real families.
And you know, I've got to know many of you over time, Steve.
You're one of them, like Mary Ann.
I don't even know how you do these interviews, but you're doing it to warn other parents that this can happen to them too.
Oh, absolutely.
And and you know I I just want to say, and I I I I know I can speak for Agnes and Mary Ann that that from my family to the Tibbetts family that our prayers and and condolences, and and we're just so sorry that they've had to join a club that nobody should be part of, especially at the hands of an illegal immigrant.
The uh, you know, that just hit me like a sledgehammer in the chest the other day when when they found her, and then a few hours later they said it was the illegal alien that killed her.
It just goes to show you that our our liberal side of our government is not ready to put the American people first.
They're not ready to fight for American citizens.
They have their own agenda.
Elizabeth Warren is a disgrace.
And what she said about the Iowa girl, you're right, Sean.
She has a name, and her name was Molly Tibbetts.
Yeah, that was the MSNBC contributor that said that part.
But I gotta tell you something, I I found it cruel.
There's a certain, you know, I have this uncanny ability, uh uh, Steve, that I I I wish I almost didn't have.
And it's called empathy.
And I'm listening to you and Mary Ann and Agnes is with us today, and I have met so many other families, and I just I somehow I can look into your eyes, hear your stories, and see the pain that maybe maybe it lessens a little bit here and there, but it never leaves.
You're never gonna get over the fact that your 21-year-old son, who's working an overnight shift, he's producing, he's he's building his life, is no longer with you every day.
I just I don't know.
I listen, I don't know if I survive.
I don't know how you you people do it.
I don't know how you make it.
Well we just keep fighting and and we keep fighting to protect other American families so that this doesn't happen to them.
And that's what keeps me going.
Yeah.
And Agnes, you you've been through this pain too.
Tell us about your son Ronald.
Yes, I have, and I live with it every day.
And first I wanted to uh say to Molly's family, my heart goes out to them.
I was extremely touched and moved.
It opened uh a huge scab on my heart.
Uh this country should be filled with empathy, respect, and concern for American citizens and for the victims that have lost their lives in this insanity.
And uh and I agree with uh with uh Ron and um uh uh uh Mary Ann, Senator Elizabeth Warren is a disgrace and embarrassment to this country.
What kind of mother, what kind of woman is she, to uh reduce uh uh Molly uh Tibbetts to Iowa girl.
That person, that girl had a family.
She ought to be ashamed of herself.
And our country needs to start focusing on American citizens.
As a legal immigrant myself, I find find it incredibly offensive that this country is not protecting citizens and legal immigrants, but giving every protection to illegal aliens.
And another thing that really really bothers me is how they reduce them to undocumented immigrants.
They are not immigrants, they are illegal aliens.
I don't know when you came into the country, I keep saying, and I'll repeat myself, Agnes, in case you've never heard me say it, I don't care that people come to the country.
My grandparents, all four of them, came at the turn of the last century poor from Ireland.
I mean nothing in their pocket.
I only want one thing.
Just do it like you did it.
You did it legally.
So we can check your background and and we don't have drug trafficking, human trafficking across our borders.
I've been down there twelve times.
I've seen it with my own eyes.
And just to protect the American people.
And that's all we're asking.
I don't think that it's common sense to me.
No, and it there is a process.
It took my family thirteen years.
They applied uh three times the first two it laps, they have to start the process all over.
This is why it's so important to vet people to they have to go through full background investigation, full medical, uh that you pay.
You have to pay out of pocket for all these things.
That's a small price to pay to come to such a great country.
But people like me that legally immigrated into into the country.
We we assimilated, we respect and honor.
This is my home.
This is my country.
I didn't have a choice where I was born, but this is my country of heart and I will fight to the end for my country.
And and that's why vetting is so important.
Like this guy that killed Molly, uh, Christian, he said, Oh, he blacked out.
Well, obviously if he has an anger issue, he blacks out.
We don't need people like that in our country.
Get them out.
How many more victims?
There's so many countries, and I'll throw this to Mary Ann, and um you're right.
But there's that they have merit based immigration.
But there's also, you know, we could have people that come for a season, they can work.
If you know, look at our unemployment rate, it's so low now.
We actually have more jobs available than we have people on unemployment.
I mean, okay, then maybe that's an opportunity to bring people in and give them an opportunity.
But as long as we check out your background, we don't care where you come from.
If we build the wall, I I'm all in favor of the big door and the wall, as long as we check people out.
Just like people that grow up under Sharia.
That is the antithesis of our constitutional republic that they grew up under.
I want to know that they share our values before they come here.
It's it's it's hard for them to assimilate into this country.
And um, you know, there are good people who come to our country, I agree with that.
But the criminal element and the lenient leniency shown in our court systems to these illegals who are giving less lesser sentences than the American citizen would for the exact crime that Americ you know that they have committed.
And they're an illegal alien present in our country on top of it, this should be holding more of a punishment for them.
And the fact that a lot of times all they do is deport them.
When we have a poor border the way we do, I was just down to Gwen Spencer's ranch in southern Arizona and and there's a bob wire fence is all that's separating Mexico.
I climbed through the Bobwire fence and climb back in two seconds.
These are not the protections that America needs, and these criminals that are deported after they've committed heinous crimes, they're back over in a week.
And because Steve and Agnes and I are privy to a lot of these articles that aren't out in mainstream media, they're back fifteen, sixteen, eighteen, twenty-two times, and they're committing heinous crimes every time they're here and every time they're deported.
And this isn't you know, I'm still getting guff out of it from a lot of people.
You're a racist.
This is not a racist problem, and this is not a way that liberals are gonna deflect from this problem.
They have to face it head on.
These are illegal aliens, which means they are people unlawfully present in our country.
I don't care where you've come from or what race you are, you are illegally present in our country.
And this is what all three of us are fighting.
This has to stop.
Yeah.
Uh I want to give Steve another opportunity to speak here because I just want people to hear your message because you you have lived through this.
You have you know, we hear about Kate Stile, we hear about you know, this young woman, uh Molly Tibbetts, and I know people, some have heard your story, but many have not.
And there's so many others.
I bet I I I don't know how many you all know together.
I mean, I'm sure you've met a lot of these parents.
I've met a lot of them over the years myself, Steve.
Yeah, and and you know, Mary Ann and I and Agnes and Laura Wilkerson.
I know she's a friend of the show.
We've got to be able to do that.
Love her.
She's amazing.
Yeah, and you know, we get to meet these people and we get to hear their stories.
And I don't think there's any one of us that doesn't shed a tear with that family member because we know their pain.
I I I had put out a post the other day about, you know, can you imagine the pain that this family is going through?
And at the end, I said, I can.
And then, you know, there were several people that I didn't even know were out there that posted a picture of their loved ones and and answered I. I met a woman in Indiana.
She doesn't want to do media, but it happened to her family.
You know, and by the way, we talk about separation issues, which happened under Obama, and Donald Trump actually fixed it through executive order, but it really needs to be done by law.
I don't think what he did through executive order is even constitutional.
But he did it.
Um, and we need to fix the laws.
And the only thing I will say to you is, you know, there are so many people that have literally, you know, it reminds me of Eric Bowling was on the show the other day, Steve, and he said, My son died of he bought a Xanax that was laced with fentanyl.
And I want people to know it can happen to them.
And he's right, and so are you.
It's not a matter of if it's going to happen to you.
It's a matter of when anymore, with the the amount of crime that's happening against American citizens.
And we have formed Angel Families, AngelFamilies.com.
The website's gonna be it's it's a shell right now, but it's being built.
Sean, and we've got I mean, we have got an influx of angel families that are reaching out to us so that we can get their stories out, and so that people don't think, well, it's just Steve and Agnes and Marianne and Laura and a few others who are out in the news.
We are bringing these people to the light, and the American public is gonna find out very, very soon how many of their fellow Americans have been affected by illegal alien crime.
All right, we'll take a quick break.
We'll come back more with Angel Families.
We'll tell you more about uh their webs we'll tell you about their website when we get back.
Uh as we continue with Agnes Gibbony, Steve Ronabeck, and Mary Ann Mendoza.
All right, as we continue, Sean Hannity Show, Angel Families.
Now they have a website we'll tell you about in a second.
Agnes Gibbony, Steve Ronaback, Mary Ann Mendoza, all lost children.
Uh yeah, because of the illegal immigrants in this country.
Real quick, Steve, I cut you off.
I apologize.
That's all right.
You you know, it is Mary Ann said, and and what I want to I want to instill in the public is this is kind of like a rape victim.
And I hate to use that analogy, but it is.
So many rape victims are afraid to come forward, or they don't want to come forward.
There are so many of these families out there that have lost loved ones, or they've had loved ones become addicted to heroin, or their child may have been a rape victim to an uh illegal alien.
And they're they they don't want to come forward.
They don't want to go through the agony of it.
But you want to get more important that they can't.
Listen, you're all amazing people.
Um frankly, far better than stronger than I think I could ever be.
I'm so sorry in each one of your cases.
Agnes, thank you so much for being with us.
Steve, thank you.
Mary Ann, it's always a pleasure uh to talk to you again.
And uh I know you're fighting for other parents and other families, and I hope people hear it.
And we could do things that are compassionate but tough and smart and just full of common sense.
800-941 Sean, toll free number.
By the way, the Senate candidate running against Elizabeth Warren is gonna check in, and we're gonna get to your calls next.
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And the candidate that could beat Elizabeth Warren.
Next.
All right.
Uh we're gonna get to your calls in a second.
First, I want to introduce to you, Jeff Deal is with us, Senate candidate, Massachusetts running against Elizabeth Warren.
Um, and well, he had some interesting comments to say about uh Warren's comments about the death of Molly Tibbetts and his latest campaign ad.
My son, Matthew Denise was 23 years old.
He was kind, caring, outgoing.
He was more than I could ever have hoped for in a son.
My son was killed by someone who should never have been in the country.
The only thing that has changed since Matthew's death is the death toll.
It's estimated that there are 20 people a day killed by illegal aliens.
That's over 7,000 people every year.
My son is dead because too many politicians in local jurisdictions put illegal aliens ahead of Americans.
Very important story in the news.
It has to do with Molly Tibbetts, the young woman in Iowa who was murdered.
A person has been charged with it.
This person is an undocumented immigrant.
We need an immigration system that focuses on where real problems are.
I went down to the border and met with those mothers who had been lied to, and there was no plan for how they would be reunified with their children.
And that's the latest ad of uh Jeff Deal, Senate candidate Massachusetts running against Elizabeth Warren.
Uh Jeff, that's a tough ad.
What's the reaction of Massachusetts been to it?
Well, Sean, thanks for having me on.
And uh I'll tell you, people in Massachusetts disappointed once again with Elizabeth Warren just two weeks ago.
She made that comment down in New Orleans that the entire criminal justice system, including law enforcement, are racist.
I think people were extremely upset with that.
Then to have that pretty heartless turn from talking about the family to what she considered to be the real problem, which was families being separated at the border, people illegal immigrants over American citizens, that really has caused people to get upset.
Where was she when Obama did the same thing?
And why doesn't she applaud it was President Trump?
I don't even think it's constitutional this executive order, but he he passed it anyway.
He signed it anyway.
No, I know.
And by the way, Sean, the other sad thing is two days ago when she made this comment, it was the seven-year anniversary of the loss of Matthew Denise.
That's Maureen Maloney's son.
That was Maureen Maloney's voice in the um audio you just played.
She uh I asked her if she would introduce me at the convention six months ago when I won the Republican nomination to run against Elizabeth Warren.
Uh Maureen is an angel mom, uh, named by Donald Trump um to that group.
Uh so she speaks nationally about this issue about illegal immigrants killing American citizens.
Those are the ones that are separated from their families permanently, and that's the problem with Elizabeth Warren.
She doesn't seem to even want to acknowledge or recognize the problem.
In fact, she's going the other way.
She wants to eliminate ICE, and of course, she's villainized law enforcement.
Let me ask you this.
Look, we I know Bill Well, there's been a there's been uh Scott Brown as an example.
Massachusetts, every once in a while kind of surprises the country.
Although uh let's be honest, they're more liberal Republicans.
I'm not even a member of the Republican Party.
I'm a registered conservative in New York, but um, it's not unthinkable, even in Taxachusetts, and I live five years on the border with Seaconk and Swansea, Massachusetts, and I remember it well.
I lived in Rhode Island five years.
Um, but it's an uphill climb if a Republican wants to win in Massachusetts.
Why do you think you can unseat her, especially with her well, uh national fame shooting through the roof?
First of all, Sean, you remember Scott Brown being the 41st vote against the Unaffordable Care Act.
Uh Massachusetts was the blueprint for that plan, and yet we still send Scott Brown because he explained how financially it wasn't gonna bet any benefit anybody.
Of course, nobody's gotten that 2,500 annual savings.
I led in 2014 a repeal of the indexed gas tax here in Massachusetts, putting two billion dollars back in the pockets of people and businesses, and uh so that's been one uh another indicator of how fiscally aware voters in Massachusetts are.
And I will tell you this uh uh Donald Trump got more votes in Massachusetts than our Republican governor Charlie Baker, who's one of the more popular governors around the country.
So on paper, the votes are out there in this election.
Let me ask you this.
Would it help your campaign in your opinion if Donald Trump went into campaign for you?
Absolutely.
Uh he's uh 20,000 Democrats unenrolled to vote for him in the primary.
I was the only Republican who actually uh endorsed Donald Trump.
I was his co-chair for Massachusetts, and he is delivering on all the promises economically.
Massachusetts has country leading low unemployment, three point five percent.
We have over one point two billion dollars in new revenue because of the job growth and wage increases because of the tax reform bill that by the way, Elizabeth Warren voted against, and she called it crumbs just like Nancy Pelosi.
People in Massachusetts by the way, if they're just crumbs, why does everybody want their crumbs back so badly?
If it's only crumbs, let us keep it.
People in Massachusetts will vote with in their financial interest.
They know with me that I've cut taxes and I want to continue the progress that's happening in Washington.
And Elizabeth Warren wants to take our country back to a socialist, you know, agenda of higher taxes.
She wants, you know, obviously government run health care, which doesn't work.
We know the price tag on that 32.6 trillion dollars if she wants to implement that.
Uh and Elizabeth Warren again is so out of touch with reality.
She's putting the interest of uh people who are not citizens over those of Americans and I I think the Tibbett's family, uh, they deserve an apology in my opinion from her for not for being so basically unsensitive to the issue uh and and really just trying to make political points out of this whole thing.
Well, so I can't really even admit this, but it's the truth.
When I lived in Rhode Island, I I could not get enough of watching Larry Byrd and Parrish and and DJ Kevin McHale, Danny Danny Ainge, you know, going up against uh Magic Johnson and Showtime in Los Angeles, one of the greatest moments in MBA history watching that rivalry is one of the best ever.
Um, but as a New Yorker, that's the death sentence for me, just so um, you know, what I'm admitting here, it's a bad thing.
Um, listen, we wish you a lot, Jeff.
We're gonna follow your race.
It sounds like you have your pulse on the people of Massachusetts.
I I do think it's a long shot, but if people in the era of Trump, people need to believe anything can happen.
But we have the most important election I think in our lifetime, this midterm, which is coming up in just 74 days, and we're gonna follow your race closely.
Thanks for being with us.
Well, I appreciate it.
And people go to DealForSenate.com, they can be involved in helping me out as well.
Thanks, Sean.
All right, Jeff Deal running in Massachusetts, 800-941 Sean is uh our toll-free telephone number.
Let's say hi to Kevin is in Virginia Beach, Virginia on the Sean Hannity show.
Happy Friday, Kevin.
How are you?
Sean, it's a pleasure to talk to you.
Uh I'm watching our federal government fall apart.
And uh in essence, man, I'm wondering why we're not looking at the fact that uh Mueller is actually in a way holding uh uh what's the word I'm looking for?
Um blackmail maybe blackmail?
What are you saying?
What are you suggesting?
Black blackmail.
I mean how how can we not be looking at the fact that we're holding over someone's head uh uh three hundred years in jail uh to get him to flip.
I mean, to me, that is nothing.
Well, I mean, it's like Rick Gates in the Manafort case.
It's uh I the big example is Sammy the Bull Gravano kills 19 people, but if he testifies against John Gotti, they'll give him a get out of jail free card and uh a witness protection program home in Arizona.
I mean, there's something and as John Sale pointed out, it had once been ruled by a court, but since overturned the uh overturned that that is a form of bribery, something of great worth, which is somebody's freedom.
You can't put a price on freedom.
Well, what kind of an offense can the right mount to go against uh it's just it just seems so futile.
Uh except I guess when you go to the vote voting booth, you get to speak your mind and nobody gets to know.
But but literally I've had people come at me because I had a little one-inch bumper sticker on my truck that said Trump on it.
And and it's just amazing.
Listen, you want you you want to guarantee that your life is over.
I'll tell you what you do.
Let's say you get a subpoena.
I want you to delete the emails, I want you to delete the hard drive, I want you to bust up your devices.
You wanna want to know what else you could go before any judge, don't corroborate the information, just kind of make it up as you go along.
Don't perfect purposely omit key facts to the judge.
See how well those maneuvers would work out for you, which is the point I made in my monologue on TV last night and on radio here yesterday is we have a two-tier justice system, and it is and the president even tweeted a lot about this this morning.
If if you care about justice and equal justice, and if you care about equal application of American laws and you believe in our constitutional republic, which is is rooted in a system of equality, we better get this right because if we don't get it right, and we only selectively prosecute people that we politically disagree with and criminalize political differences, as a country, we're done.
It's and Hannity that hey, that's hyperbole.
It's not hyperbole.
And I'm telling you, you cannot use the justice system as a weapon because you don't like somebody's political point of view, or in the case of Donald Trump, the great disruptor, you don't like his style.
That's really what it comes down to.
Look, he's like, as I've been saying, you take a pool after it's been sitting all winter, and you know, you know, all the algae is growing in the spring, and you open up the pool, it's disgusting, and you gotta kill it.
So what do you do?
You shock the pool.
Well, Donald Trump is a shock to the entire political insider swamp sewer infrastructure.
And all those people that benefit from the sewer, they kind of hate his guts.
Not kinda, they do, and they want to destroy him and they want to bring them down.
And Muller's gonna provide the roadmap in his report.
That's how this you want to know how this story ends, it's gonna end with his report, the Giuliani report, and then the voters decide.
That's how I guess it ends.
And then you, the people, you don't think this is an important election?
Oh, it is.
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All right, that wraps up what is a huge and busy newsweek.
But let not your heart be troubled because why?
Well, you have the weekend.
We'll come back, we'll be ready for battle, political battle on Monday.
As always, thanks for being with us.
Have a great, safe, fun weekend, and we will see you back here Monday.
