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Well, you want to keep America great.
You want to stop the Democrats from what their plan is.
That's what you're gonna get if you don't get your ass out of your bed and out of your car and get into a voting booth come this all-important midterm election in 71 days.
Uh, it is getting more fierce, more tense, more angry, more insane than I've ever seen it.
And the stakes could not be any higher.
There's so much at stake in this midterm election.
Uh all right, we have a lot going on today.
We have the president coming up with a United States Mexico trade deal terminating NAFTA.
We have the details, and yeah, if you don't negotiate better deals, you can't get better deals.
If you don't say to our partners or allies in Europe that we want a better trade deal, one with reciprocity, you're never gonna get one.
And the fact that they complain that they've had it so good for so many years shouldn't bother us.
Maybe it's a little uncomfortable.
You know, I don't know.
I live my life in a state of negotiation.
So does the president.
If you don't say in a forceful way that you've been treating the United States unfairly, now there's a new sheriff in town.
Now we want a better deal.
What do you think?
They're just gonna wake up in the morning and say, we're gonna give America more money.
We're not gonna put tariffs on their products coming into our country.
Um, we're just gonna leave it the way.
Of course they want to leave it the way it is.
Just like NATO wants us to bear the burden of 72 cents of every dollar that they spend to defend our allies in Europe.
You know, why can't things change?
Why do we take it all the time?
Well, finally now the president is doing something about it.
Anyway, the president existed uh terminates uh the existing deal as it relates to NAFTA, announces a new tentative agreement with the United States and Mexico, one of the largest trade deals ever, says I'll be terminating the existing deal going into this deal, he said.
It's big day for trade.
He said, We'll see if Canada can still be a part of the trade pact.
He said, We're starting negotiations with Canada pretty much immediately.
And you know what?
That's good for America.
It's good for American jobs, it's good for the American economy.
You know, somebody at some point, when do we start looking out for, you know, those people forgotten men and women that were so important just two short years ago in that election.
Now, by the way, the president promised to do this.
It's another promise made.
It's another promise kept.
And finally, we're turning the page on what has been unfair fair trade deals that sacrificed a lot of the prosperity of our working men and women, the manufacturing jobs that Obama said were never coming back.
Anyway, so they have a preliminary U.S. Mexico trade deal, modernizing, rebalancing the trade relationship that reflect the realities of the 21st century.
And it is a win-win deal.
It's a win for North American farmers and ranchers and workers and businesses, as the president has gone on to say.
And the preliminary agreement will benefit American workers, fat manufacturing, agriculture, the new rule of origin requirements to incentivize billions a year in vehicle and automotive parts production in the United States, supporting high-wage jobs for Americans.
And it is fully enforceable as it relates to labor standards in any trade agreement.
And new commitments to reduce trade distorting policies as it relates to American agricultural goods, improvements that enable food and agriculture to trade more fairly.
And so intellectual property protections, the strongest disciplines on digital trade of any international agreement.
A lot of transparency that goes forth with this agreement.
So the president is basically keeping a promise that he made, which is good for all of us.
You know, for all those people that don't want, you know, a trade deal.
Why?
Because you want cheap labor, you want things the way they are.
You know, we got to look at every American.
How do these deals impact every American?
You know, deals that put high tariffs on specific industries are not good for American farmers.
It's not good for American steel, it's not good for American car manufacturers.
And, you know, now when you add with this the president's tax cuts, you add to that the eliminating of needless and burdensome government regulation.
We're now creating in America a business-friendly environment.
And when you do that and you incentivize companies to spend money here on factories, on manufacturing centers, that's great for the American economy.
And that's great for the creation of jobs so that Americans can prosper and get their house in a nice neighborhood and have a safe car and a new car and a vacation and take their kids to Disney.
It's gonna be horrible a morning ahead of time.
You know, and all the oh, you're looking at, I mean, you wait till you go to Disney.
Oh, you're gonna take Liam to Disney.
Liam is going to go to Disney.
It's how old is he now?
He's almost three, right?
He just turned three.
Okay.
Liam's three years old.
Liam is going like every other kid.
He's gonna want to go see Mickey Mouse.
My son Patrick was like three or four.
He assaulted Winnie the Pooh.
He would not let that poo bear go.
And every time the guy turned to poo, person turned around, like, oh God, kid, get out of here.
He would not leave Winnie the Pooh.
And somewhere I've got it on video, someplace.
Uh, but they're gonna want to go, and you're gonna wait the 1400 hours to get on Dumbo.
And then when they're older, they're gonna want to go back because then they want to go to all the big rides that they couldn't do when they were young.
And if they're like my son, he's like, you know, there's not a roller coaster that's been made that he doesn't want to sit in the front row of.
Again and again.
It's you know, the first year we were allowed on Space Mountain.
Again, let's do it again, again.
Then you go out, you go right back in, wait again.
Then you go out and go right back in, do it again.
Yeah, I'm in trouble because I can't do rides.
I get very, very sick.
Well, suck it up.
You might as well just bring it up.
It's gonna be doggy bag day.
You could bring a bring a brown bag with you.
You know, maybe take a little previous tums, you know, whatever you need.
Motion sickness.
And whatever you do, don't go to it's a small world.
Do never go in, don't go even near that place.
What is that?
Because you will sing that dopey song for 500 weeks and counting.
It is a trick for parents.
It's like some type of uh mind control marketing technique.
You can't get rid of the dumb song in your head.
Anyway, but every kid, but every parent should want to take their kids to Disney.
They should have that.
Um, with 71 days to go, we've got a lot of uh campaign news.
We got a lot of deep state news today that we're gonna get to.
Tomorrow, Bruce Orr is going to be testifying as it relates to his relationship with Christopher Steele.
Now, we've learned a lot since Bruce Orr's been back up there.
Bruce Orr, his wife Nelly working for Fusion GPS.
So by the way, he didn't disclose any of that to anybody.
The if you look at the emails, the text messages, and the multiple times they've all met together or in communication with steel, it is pretty incredible how worried Christopher Steele is and was that he'd be found out by Congress and exposed, even use the words he was afraid of being exposed.
Remember before Comey testified, he talked about I hope the firewalls hold.
What firewalls?
What did any of that mean?
Anyway, we know then we have reported that he's continuing to try to provide anti-Trump information even after he was fired from the FBI, and he was using Bruce Orr to get to the FBI and Robert Mueller.
And by the way, he doesn't even stand by his own dossier.
But they were making strong efforts to disseminate that information to influence American voters in the lead up to 2016 in November, and they were trying to get the dirty dossier out throughout the media, which they were pretty successful at.
And then, of course, it was used as the basis for four Pfizer warrant applications, even though when he had to testify in Great Britain about his own dossier, he said, Oh no, no, I don't I can't confirm any of this.
This is just raw intelligence.
We don't know anything about anything.
Uh no, it's maybe 50-50 or something like that, but I don't know if any of this is true.
Well, if you don't know it's true, then why would you say it's true?
Why did you print it as true?
Why did you disseminate it to people so you can mislead the American people in the lead up to an election?
Remember, he was afraid of Grassley's letter and inquiry that it would implicate him.
And Steele appeared frantic that Comey's congressional testimony might expose uh him as well.
You know, are the firewalls gonna hold?
I don't want to get exposed.
And Steele's worried about the Senate Intel Committee, you know, saying we're frustrated with how long the re-engagement with the Bureau is going, and Mueller is uh taking.
Oh, well, so he wanted to get his false information, the information he can't corroborate himself into the hands of Robert Mueller.
And he's telling Bruce Orr anything you can do to accelerate the process would be much appreciated.
There is some new perishable operational opportunities which we don't want to miss out on.
Well, that was in June of 2017, and October of the same year.
Just saw a story in the media about the Bureau handing over documents to Congress about my work and relationship with them.
Very concerned about this.
People's lives may be endangered.
What?
People that were up to no good.
People that were trying to influence the election with your lies.
I'd like to get to the bottom of all.
I know it has nothing to do with taxicab medallions.
I know it doesn't have to do with bank loan applications.
I know it doesn't have to do with tax returns, so maybe we can get back to real Russia collusion and the Russian lies that were bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton and the DNC funneled through a law firm, hiring fusion GPS, hiring a foreign national, puts together a dossier.
That dossier used to purposely lie to the American people and propagandize and misinform them before an election before they go into the voting booth and becomes the basis of a Pfizer warrant because nobody dared to verify or corroborate anything in this.
You know, Steele saying, Well, I just saw a story about the media and and documents handed over to Congress.
And uh Steele's saying we were wondering if there's any response to the questions I raised last week.
And Orr is saying I've passed the questions, apparently to Mueller, but haven't gotten an answer yet.
And then Steele says, Well, I'm presuming you've heard nothing back from your special counsel colleagues on the issues you kindly put to them from me.
Okay, he was fired for lying.
He was fired for leaking.
He doesn't even stand by his own dossier under oath in Great Britain, and he's funneling this propaganda that Hillary paid for to Robert Mueller.
Anyone see how wrong all of this is?
To say this is disappointing, he says would be an understatement.
Certain people have been willing to risk everything to engage with them in an effort to help them reach the truth.
What the truth about your lying dossier?
Provably false now on so many fronts.
Last week, everything we learned that he said about Michael Cohn was not true.
Michael Cohn was never in Prague.
But he still handed it, disseminated it, and tried to lie to the American people so he could swing an election.
And Hillary paid for the whole bit of Russian lies.
Also remain in the dark as to what work has been briefed to Congress about us, our assets, and previous work.
Unbelievable.
And we paid this guy.
11 checks.
He got paid 11 times by the FBI.
Unbelievable.
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All right, as we roll along, 71 days till election day, 800 941 Sean.
By the way, Democrats and strategists getting very worried about Democratic Senator Bill Nelson that he's choking in his bid to defend off a challenge from Florida governor Rick Scott.
Rick Scott has done an amazing job as governor.
And anyway, privately, a number of uh Democratic census senators have been offering their unsolicited view that Nelson is in for reckoning on election day, uh, which would be a big pickup for the Republicans.
And, you know, Nelson is a classic old school senator, swamp creature.
And um, anyway, and you know, he's vastly outspent.
There's concern in Florida, the National Party might have to cut him loose if a loss looks like a certainty, and the market being as expensive as it is.
It's been a month since Nelson led in any public poll, private polling, even surveys conducted by Democrats also showed Nelson behind Scott.
You know, we are getting a blueprint, though, emerging and detailing what the Democratic plans would be to destroy President Trump if they get elected, if they don't hold the House of Representatives.
What do they want to do?
They want to have hearings.
Isn't it amazing?
They want their crumbs back.
They want to keep Obamacare.
They want open borders.
They want to impeach the president, and they don't want the deep state pals of theirs to be exposed.
But no, no, no, that's not even enough.
Then they want to investigate the president's tax returns, the Trump family businesses, every one of them.
Uh, here we go.
Trump's dealings with Russia.
Really?
Including his preparation for meeting with Putin.
The, you know, Stormy Daniels, James Comey's firing, the firing of some U.S. attorneys, which he has every right to replace.
The uh Trump's proposed transgender ban for the military, Steve Banuchin's business dealings, White House staff's personal email use, cabinet secretary travel expenses and perks, discussions of classified information at Mar-a-Lago.
They want to go after Jared and Ivanka, dismissal of members of the EPA board of scientific counselors.
They want to go after the travel ban, family separation policy, hurricane response in Puerto Rico, election and hacking attempts, White House security clearances.
Let me just of that whole list, name one thing.
One that is gonna do a thing to help the American people or advance the interests of this country.
It's all politics for them.
It's all the politics of personal destruction.
It's all smear, slander, destroy.
It's basically all things Democrat.
71 days, that's the agenda.
71 days.
If you don't vote, you're gonna get the House of Representatives you deserve.
71 days.
You want your crumbs, you want to give your crumbs back, want to keep Obamacare, want open borders, you want the president impeached for nothing.
That's what you get from the Democrats.
All right, 71 days till uh election day.
LA Times has a piece with their decision over the weekend to limit the role that is played by super delegates in their presidential primaries in the Democratic Party.
They may have just guaranteed President Trump a second term in office.
In other words, we know now that Bernie Sanders was cheated, that the fix was in, that the primary was rigged.
Kill myself that I'm not kidding.
You better fix this right now.
I literally am gonna die.
I need an ambulance.
Scary.
But anyway, so they did steal the primary.
The whole thing about the steel dossier that Hillary paid for and used DNC money because she was controlling it.
Donna Brazil even said it.
She regretted and she dreaded making the call to Bernie Sanders.
Yeah, you were cheated.
Yeah, they totally screwed you.
They stole it.
We saw it coming.
They did it.
It's the same thing in the general election.
You know, the whole idea that she's paying for a document by a foreign national, he put it together by sneaking the money through a law firm to an op research group, and then the Russian context, he doesn't even believe his own dossier.
And this is why the hearings with Bruce Orr are so important tomorrow.
Because Bruce Orr was his connection to Robert Mueller.
Here's a question.
Did Robert Mueller ever get any information from Bruce Orr sent through Christopher Steele?
Did Robert Mueller ever talk to Christopher Steele?
A lot of questions for him and his team.
You know, Democrats were now seeing that anyway, the LA Times had a move aimed at getting past the acrimony from the 2016 presidential primary and unifying the party.
The DNC voted on Saturday to dramatically reduce the role of superdelegates in choosing their presidential nominee.
Well, that was Hillary Clinton's safety net.
That was her backstop.
That was her guarantee that she was never going to lose.
Anyway, they met in Chicago.
DNC representatives voted overwhelmingly to dilute the power of the superdelegates, party bosses and other insiders traditionally given considerable weight in the nominating process.
Now the push for reform was driven by backers of Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, who rightly complained that the superdelegate system helped rig the primary election in favor of Hillary Clinton, who had the support of most of the superdelegates.
Well, those delegates were ultimately, not ultimately, the key to Clinton winning the nomination.
Bitterness over the party rules has persisted.
And Saturday's vote was a victory for the left wing of the party, which demanded a more democratic nominating process.
We voted today to return power to the grass roots, said the DNC chairman.
Writing on Twitter, our North Star from the beginning of the process has been to grow our party, unite our party, earn voters' trust.
Well, then if then if they get power, then by the way, this list that I was mentioning of what the Democrat, the spreadsheet, which originated in senior House Republican office, you know, more than a hundred formal requests from House Democrats, this Congress spanning nearly every committee.
That's all they want to do.
There's no agenda to make this country a better place.
They just want to stop Trump, hate Trump, stop Trump.
Trump's tax returns, Trump's family businesses, you know, uh we'll deal more with Russia.
As if we haven't had enough Russia for two years.
You know, Stormy Daniels firing Comey, firing U.S. attorneys, Steve Minuchin's business dealings, White House staff's personal email.
They want to go into everything.
There's nothing, though, that's proposed that's going to make the country a better place.
They still want their crumbs back.
They describe the tax cuts as crumbs, but they definitely want them back.
Nancy Pelosi has said it.
Elizabeth Warren has said it.
And they we know they can't stand tax cuts.
And if it's so good, what did the Obama economy do for us in eight long years?
I love people in the Democratic Party.
No, Trump's economy is good because of Obama.
I'm like, you can't be that insane if you believe that.
Anyway, the president also released his list for endorsements for Tuesday's primaries.
He's supporting Governor Rick Scott in his primary race for the Senate to take on Bill Nelson.
Also signaled his support for Ron DeSantis, who I think would be a great governor for the state of Florida.
I also agree with that.
And let's see.
He's also supporting Arizona Governor Doug Ducey's platform ahead of the primary.
And oh, by the way, so we have a new trade deal.
It's now the stock market has been going through the roof and smashing records as soon as it was announced.
We could have a separate deal that we could put it into this deal.
I like to call this deal the United States-Mexico trade agreement.
I think it's an elegant name.
I think NAFTA has a lot of bad connotations for the United States because it was a ripoff.
There was a deal that was a horrible deal for our country.
And I think it's got a lot of bad connotations to a lot of people.
And he can have bilateral talks with Canada.
I think it's in our best interest to get along with Canada.
But Pat Leahy's excluding Canada, NAFTA won't pass the Senate.
I mean, the only way it passed the last time was because Canada was part of it.
Well, if November this gets voted on now, I would argue it's probably going to pass the Senate.
And but if that's what their agenda is, you gotta ask yourself, is that the America you want to live in for the next two years?
One of investigation and impeachment, and no work gets done to help the American people.
None.
Has anybody thought for a minute the impact that this is gonna have on the economy?
The impact that, you know, it'll have on the agenda the American people voted for.
Here's a little side note that was interesting that I saw over the weekend.
When it comes to uh people with conflicts of interest, especially in politically charged investigations, it's kind of hard to beat Rod Rosenstein.
He recommended firing Gomey.
He appointed Muller.
He also signed the Pfizer warrants.
Well, the last Pfizer warrant, which, you know, the bulk of information was the phony steel dossier that nobody verified.
Anyway, he wrote the legal opinion and on all these cases.
And, you know, he would be witness number one if it relate as it relates to anything James Comey of other conflicts of interest.
Michael Goodwin pointed out that Rod Rosenstein ordered the U.S. attorney in charge of the Michael Cohn investigation to recuse himself because he was appointed by President Trump.
Anyway, in the long slog to unseat the president.
He's up to his eyeballs and everything, Trump.
Something there.
I don't have it all yet, but it's becoming very clear there's a reason that they don't want to release the unredacted Fourth Pfizer warrant and the gang of aid information and the 302s.
We want to get to the bottom of what's really going on.
That would be a good way to start.
Um what else do we have here today?
Oh, this is pretty well, let me say about Senator McCain.
I know um I look I had plenty of political disagreements with Senator McCain.
I don't regret for a minute, not for a second.
I got to know him, his wife Cindy, and Megan McCain.
She was a colleague for a period of time at Fox and even on Premier Radio Networks with me.
And uh get to see her time to time.
Lovely family, lovely people.
I just disagreed with Senator McCain on some substance.
Um, and he was a war hero.
He this guy spent five years in a prisoner of war camp having his bones broken and every other horrific thing happened to him.
And he suffered in a way that I don't think anyone of us can ever imagine.
And for that, the American people are always in Senator McCain's debt.
Our thoughts and prayers go out to his family.
And I just, you know, I to me, it's like at a moment like this, you just thank them for the good in their lives.
Forget that, you know, we had political disagreements.
I never took it personally.
He knew he knew we'd where we disagreed, and we'd have passionate debates over the years on radio and TV.
And um, but it never I never never was personal for me.
Even when he said, remember he came back from his illness and the, I think it was during the time of the health care vote, and he said, to hell with these people on cable and talk radio, which is quintessential John McCain.
And I admire him for it.
He's being honest.
You know, just like he didn't like President Trump.
President Trump doesn't like him.
People don't have to like each other in this life.
No, there's no law that says you've got to like everybody.
You don't.
Anyway, I I think um he did a lot of great good things for his country.
He deserves so much credit for that.
I thought Megan McCain's statement on her father's passing was particularly uh beautiful thing uh for a daughter to a father.
And um, I guess it's gonna, he's decided that he's gonna not gonna be buried at Arlington, but at Annapolis.
Um anyway, it's a tough time for his family.
Our thoughts and prayers go out to all of them.
The FBI suspected agents, An FBI agent suspected that Hillary's deleted emails were on Anthony Wiener's laptop.
You know, disgraced FBI director James Comey, he closed the investigation into the Clinton emails found on Anthony Wiener's laptop before agents could examine 99% of those emails, according to Paul Sperry, real clear investigations.
And Comey's decision to shortcut the Wiener laptop investigation came despite the FBI's suspicion that those unexamined emails contained the entire Clinton email archive, including the emails she deleted from other devices with bleach pit.
Comey's agents, one of whom was Peter Strzok, examined only 3,000 of the 694,000 emails found on Wiener's laptop, which is less than one half of 1% of the total number of Hillary emails that were on that device.
And the Wiener laptop investigation was shut down despite that fact.
In the 3,000 emails that the FBI had examined, they found more classified emails than they had during the FBI's entire year-long Hillary investigation that Comey closed in July of 2016.
You know, it's getting, you know, all of this keeps coming out.
And the question is when I know it doesn't have to deal with taxis or tax returns or loan applications, uh, but this is, you know, about national security.
And a time, you know, investigators, you know, managed over the course of one week to read the hundreds of thousands of emails, never never made any sense.
And Comey later told Congress that thanks to the wizardry of our technology, the FBI was able to eliminate the vast majority of messages and duplicates of emails they'd previously seen.
In fact, a technical glitch prevented FBI technicians from accurately comparing the new emails we now find out.
Only 3,000 of the nearly 700,000 emails were directly reviewed for classified incriminating information.
One career FBI special agent involved in the case complained to New York colleagues that officials in Washington were trying to bury the treasure trove of evidence, which he believed contained the full archive of Clinton emails, including those that she deleted.
And most of the emails were never examined, even though they made up potentially ten times the evidence of what was reviewed in the original year-long case that Comey closed in July of 2016.
It's unbelievable.
By the way, you have a pro-Democratic firm now admitting that Trump's approval rating is remarkably stable, despite, quote, Russia gate bombshells about taxes and taxicabs and loan applications.
Anyway, uh that's a pretty interesting sign.
Lanny Davis now is in full retreat on allegations that sparked Democrats' impeachment uh fever last week.
Remember the media last full blown over the top, you know, all impeachment all the time, sparked literally by Michael Cohn's plea deal and his attorney, Lanny Davis.
Turns out Lanny wasn't exactly being truthful and honest the last few days.
And uh he's been out admitting that he made the whole thing up.
Now, if Democrats aren't angry about this, you should be.
And you know, why, for example, would anyone say as a lawyer, oh, my client would never accept a pardon.
Well, obviously he's not facing five years in jail.
I mean, you know, viewers I'd I'd beg Obama for five years for pardon if I had to.
Good grief.
This just makes no sense.
Anyway, the Washington Post reports Sunday that Davis, in an interview, says he's no longer certain about claims that he made to reporters on background and on the record in recent weeks about what Cohn knew about Trump's awareness of Russian efforts.
And he said he couldn't confirm media reports that Cohn is prepared to tell the special counsel that Trump had advanced knowledge of the 2016 Trump Tower meeting.
That was the whole, you know, insanity of impeachment all last week.
CNN reported in July that Cohn claimed to have witnessed Trump appearing, approving the meeting at Trump Tower.
Well, the day after CNN's report, the Washington Post, using anonymous sources, now admit that it was Lanny Davis that peddled the same story that Cohn had told the associates.
He had witnessed an exchange with Trump Jr. telling his father about that meeting.
I should be more clear.
He says, including with you, that I could not independently confirm what had happened.
I regret my error.
It's kind of a big error.
It's kind of like all we heard last week.
There's another, I'll get into this later, but there's a DC judge is about to render a decision on a decades old criminal case, and the decision might end up blowing Robert Mueller's investigation out of the water.
We're watching that closely for you.
We'll get into more details as we have time.
All right, as we continue, 800 941 Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
Sarah Carter and Sean Bigley join us next as we have an investigative report from Sarah.
Now this is going to be it's a little complicated, but it's really important and necessary and interesting.
You got to understand here because Bigley represents Adam Lovinger, who lost his security clearance after Stefan Halper complained about him.
Well, now we have apparently they've gotten internal documents, and all they show is this guy Halper was doing the bidding of the deep state, and they've got the evidence to prove it.
So sit tight, buckle up, we'll continue to do news that you won't get from the mainstream media ever, as they always talk about impeaching Trump 24-7, hating Trump 24-7.
An election in 71 days.
Your vote's gonna matter more than ever.
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She has our website, Sarah A Carter.com, but revealing that the documents and information.
Remember this this issue we brought up last week about Adam Lovinger.
And it's a guy that, oh, he lost his security clearance after Stefan Helper complained about him.
Um anyway, so long story short, there are new documents and information that Lovinger um had had stumbled upon and other documents that she has been able to obtain, raising really troubling questions about Stefan Halper, who was believed to have worked with the CIA and and part of the matrix of players in the Bureau's crossfire hurricane investigation into the Trump campaign.
And Halper, who assisted the FBI in the Russia investigation, appears to have significant ties we're finding to the Russian government, as well as a source connected directly to Vladimir Putin.
Now, when Mr. Levinger raised concerns about the DOD's misuse of Stefan Halper in 2016, he did so with without any political designs whatsoever or any knowledge of Mr. Halper's spying activities.
And Sean Bigley is a partner specializing in federal security clearance defense, representing Adam Lovinger in this article that Sarah uh has now just released.
Mr. Lovinger simply did what all Americans should expect of our civil servants.
He reported violations of the law and a gross waste of public funds to his superiors.
And yet we were puzzled to, you know, find the ferocity of efforts to discredit Mr. Lovinger, who's just trying to be a whistleblower and tell the truth.
And then on top of it, there were leaks from the DOD of false and and defamatory uh information to the press.
And anyway, so Sean Bigley assumed that the other contractor about who Lovinger explicitly raised questions, a close confidant of Hillary Clinton was the reason for the sustained assault on Mr. Lovinger, and that certainly may have played a role.
But it was more than the Clinton connected contacts, suspected Bigley, who added, Mr. Lovinger unwittingly shined a spotlight on the deep state secret weapon, which was Stefan Halper, who threatened to expose the truth about Trump Russia collusion narrative, then being plotted that it was all a setup.
All right, uh, joining us now with more.
We're gonna fill in the blanks and the details to all of this.
Sarah Carter, investigative reporter and uh Fox News contributor, Sean Bigley is with us, and uh he specializes in federal security clearance defense, representing Adam Lovinger.
Thank you both for being with us.
Look, it gets a little more complicated.
I'm just giving some of the highlights, Sarah.
Why don't you why don't you really break this down but very slowly because it gets a little complicated?
So this is how this plays out, and I'm sure um Sean Bigley will be able to explain a lot of his uh client uh the circumstances that surrounded his client, Adam Levinger, who is a former defense department analyst.
Um, he became a whistleblower.
He basically internally complained about some contracts that he stumbled on.
And at the time, uh he had no idea who Stefan Halper was.
He just knew that it was this professor, this Cambridge guy, who was getting this exorbitant amount of money for basically writing some analysis for the defense the defense department on foreign policy issues.
Um so he complains about that.
He complains about another contract that was uh connected to a person that was very close to Chelsea Clinton.
By the way, we should say it was roughly a million dollars in taxpayer funded funded money.
Absolutely, Sean.
So this is over a million dollars in taxpayer funded um financing for some report of reports basically that he himself did not fully write.
He contracted out foreign officials and others.
Let's go back to George Papadopoulos.
He got wrapped up in Stefan Halper's mess when Stefan Halper actually reached out to him and asked him to help write some foreign policy reports that he was basically compiling together and then turning in as his own.
Um so over one million dollars received for this.
This is very concerning because it doesn't match other contracts.
People do not get paid this much money.
And when you look at the look at this as a whole, when you look at the amount of writing that he actually did himself, it would be like getting paid two thousand dollars a page.
Two thousand dollars a page for writing, some of which he didn't even do himself.
But we also know that Halper assisted the FBI in the Russian investigation, and he has ties to the Russian government, and you believe Vladimir Putin himself?
Yes, absolutely.
To people directly connected with Vladimir Putin, we know this only because we've been able to obtain, and this is you know, through various documentation, his course syllabi for the Cambridge uh uh intelligence seminar that he was holding.
Uh and he held those seminars from uh 2012 up until 2016.
Um and one of the 2012 uh seminar uh app uh course syllabi that we have shows that he brought to teach alongside him the former head of Russian intelligence.
I mean, this is Trubnikov.
Trubnikov um is was the top of the Russia's intelligence service from 1996 through 2000.
He was um appointed uh first deputy foreign minister from 2000 to 2004, and uh in 2004 he was appointed by President Putin to as to the ambassador of Russia.
But let's just go back one step before we go any further.
At the point in time when Adam Levinger was discovering these contracts, he had no clue as to who Stephen Hal Stefan Halper was.
He had no idea really up until recently, and you can talk to Sean Bigley about this, um that Stefan Halper was even involved uh in this Russia collusion until it came out into the news.
They had no idea that he was being utilized by the FBI to basically gather information on Carter Page and uh George Papadopoulos.
And ironically, here's Stefan Halper trying to accuse Carter Page or trying to accuse George Papadopoulos of having these connections with Russia when it's Stefan Halper himself who has the most connection with Russia.
All right.
Let me let me bring in Lovinger's attorney, Sean Bigley, who's with us.
And why don't I let you just fill in some of the gaps here?
So he just happened upon this information as it relates to Halper, and then he's a whistleblower.
He's trying to explain why is this guy getting two thousand dollars a page and up to a million dollars in payments.
And where are these connections to Russia?
How do you tie this all together?
Sure.
So it's a really fascinating story.
And and I think you know what Sarah emphasized as far as the the timeliness and or the timeline of this with uh you know Mr. Lovinger uh and his whistleblower disclosures is really, really important because I think a lot of people at the left are gonna look at this and say, oh, this is you know uh a political story.
It's not.
This was a guy who was completely uh an apolitical actor.
Uh Mr. Levinger, he was uh a civil servant, he was doing his job and he uncovered this stuff.
And so for a very long time, for about a year, when we were fighting this case, up until the news uh broke about Mr. Halper earlier this summer, we were really struggling to figure out why the Defense Department was going after him with such a vengeance.
And all we could assume is Sarah referenced was the fact that this uh other contractor that he had uh raised questions about uh has very close ties to the Clinton family, uh as we know from uh emails uncovered Through judicial watch.
Uh this woman is actually a very close confidant of Hillary Clinton.
And so we assumed that that was the reason for the animosity.
Well, we now know that there's a lot more to the story, and the pieces of the puzzle are starting to sort of come together.
But you know, tie them together to us.
What do you think it is that happened?
So uh what we think happened in hindsight is Mr. Halper was essentially being used by the Department of Defense or by the by the government, by the FBI, uh as sort of an off-the-books uh manager of aspiring, if you will.
Uh in essence, he was being paid these extraordinary sums of money to put together uh what Mr. Levinger and others have termed college level research projects, uh many of which were farmed out to other academics to prepare.
Uh and uh turning these things in for you know major paydays, half a million dollars, four hundred thousand dollars, things like that.
Uh and so when you look at you know what he was actually doing versus what he was being paid for on paper, there is a tremendous uh disconnect.
And simultaneously he was being sent out to uh engage with foreign government officials uh to conduct what Mr. Lovinger felt was foreign relations, which is something he specifically complained about.
That is not a uh uh a task that is legally assignable to contractors.
And so we believe that Mr. Halper was using these funds that he was given uh taxpayer funds by the Department of Defense to essentially uh globetrot and develop contacts that he could then pump for information or use as far as uh influence uh peddling campaigns, and that was the true purpose of the expenditures.
It's incredible.
It's incredible, Sean, because it's uh it's illegal to do that, by the way, to use those type of contractors for foreign pol I mean now whether or not the government had a black ops type of uh situation with uh halper is is a whole other story, and that would raise questions as to what was really going on here, and I think only Congress can uh through through a hearing can find out the truth.
But it's it's quite stunning because ironically, Halper himself, according to a number of reports, according to a number of reports.
Now remember, I have not been able to speak to Halper yet.
He hasn't returned my phone calls or my emails, but his uh his seminar was actually also being funded by Russians.
Russians connected, oligarchs connected directly to Putin.
I mean, some of that it wasn't all of the funding, but uh a good sum of money was coming from Russia to help fund these seminars.
And remember, in 2016, Halper basically said, Yeah, well, I decided to tur shut down the seminar because I think the Russians are getting too close.
Well, the Russians were getting close because apparently Halper himself was inviting them.
Well, explain that he was basically intelligence and was being paid.
How was he bringing them in and trying to get them close to the Trump campaign at the time?
Well, I think for for Halpert, the he was being utilized, right?
So he was actually being utilized by the FBI then to connect with both Carter Page and he met Carter Page after Carter Page came back from Moscow.
Um Carter Page attended one of his seminars, and just so happens that Halper becomes very friendly with Carter Page, starts reaching out to Carter Page, talks to him about, you know, uh the similar issues about Russia, about intelligence, and Carter Page didn't speak at that seminar.
He was just invited as a part of the seminar, but became very close with Halper.
And at that time, it was when uh Halper began asking him a lot of questions, asking him about his relationship with the Russians, trying to gather information on him.
It was the same thing that Halper did to George Papadopoulos when uh Papadopoulos actually became suspicious of of Halper and how intense he was when he started asking him questions.
So what did the r what do you have to do with the Russians?
Uh what are you getting from them?
And Papadopoulos is basically I was told by his wife Simona, no, I have nothing to do with them.
I mean, uh you know, I don't know what you're talking about.
And that's when I think at that point when um Papadopoulos started to become concerned about how is there any Sean Bigley evidence to back up and corroborate uh on savory contacts, connections, and this nefarious nexus you're describing?
Here's what we have, Sean, and I I think when you look at the the totality of the picture, it is truly stunning.
We have evidence that uh, and just to back up for a second, obviously we have the Trump Russia collusion, quote unquote narrative that has been put out there for now uh well over a year, and the entire genesis of that essentially was Mr. Halper going to the FBI, apparently and saying, I've witnessed all these concerning interactions between Trump people and Russians, there's something afoot, and then the FBI gets involved.
Well, what we now know is it was a setup.
Essentially, Mr. Halper who was organizing these seminars, invited the Trump people into the Lions Den.
He invited them in, knowing that his co-convener of these seminars is a noted Putin apologist who spent a decade in the state academy in Moscow.
His co-teacher or co-lead of this seminar was the former head of Russian intelligence, and according to the British press, a good chunk of his seminars were funded by a company that uh apparently British intelligence has been.
I gotta go to a break, but you have a paper trail that confirms all of this?
Yes.
All of it.
All of it.
All right, stay right there.
We'll come back and ask about that when we get back.
All right, final moments as we continue with Sarah Carter and Sean Bigley, who is representing Adam Lovinger.
All right, we were talking about the paper trail, specifically, and I know Sarah, you have seen a lot of the documents, and I know Sean, you have a lot of the documents.
What will it show and where will this end?
So ultimately, Sean, we believe that this is the complete and utter undermining of this whole Russian Trump collusion narrative because it it completely falls apart.
Essentially, um, as I was saying earlier, we have documentary evidence that Mr. Halper invited the Trump officials into his seminars, knowing full well that the Russians were present, the Russians were involved, and then later claimed that he was shutting down the seminars because the Russians were infiltrating them.
Uh it doesn't add up.
And when you look at the the context and the totality of the documentation, it becomes very, very clear what happened as far as the So he set it up and then acted all surprised when it started to get exposed.
Exactly.
Sarah, last word.
Yeah, well, yeah, exactly.
You can't act like the Russians were infiltrating your seminar when you sent them out invitations.
And another thing that we don't want to forget about Halper was Halper was also the one that reported to the FBI that Lieutenant General Michael Flynn may have had indiscreet contact or strange contacts with the Russian woman, who, by the way, was at his seminar at a dinner hosted by Halper and Sir Richard Deerlev,
the head of MI6, uh, the former head of MI6 at the time, and uh all of a sudden these rumors spell out all across the uh disinformation campaign, uh across the media against General Michael Flynn.
All right, thank you both for being with us.
We appreciate it.
800-941 Sean, toll-free telephone number.
Uh, when we come back, the president gets tough again with uh little rocket man in North Korea.
Straight ahead.
North Korea, best not make any more threats to the United States.
They will be met with fire, fury, and frankly, power.
The likes of which this world has never seen before.
The United States has great strength and patience.
But if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea.
Frankly, uh, the people that were questioning that statement was it too tough?
Maybe it wasn't tough enough.
They've been doing this to our country for a long time, for many years.
And it's about time that somebody stuck up for the people of this country and for the people of other countries.
And what they've been getting away with is a tragedy.
And it can't be allowed.
If anything happens to Guam, there's gonna be big, big trouble in North Korea.
So he does anything with respect to Guam or any place else that's an American territory or an American ally, he will truly regret it.
And he will regret it fast.
Rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime.
This shouldn't be handled now, but I'm gonna handle it because we have to handle it.
Little Rocket Man, we've we're gonna do it because we really have no choice.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour.
A little rocket man fire and fury, and my buttons bigger than yours, and mine actually works.
Anyway, uh, we know that the president on Friday told Mike Pompeo change his plans, a pre uh a pre-arranged trip that he had with North Korean leaders because the president doesn't feel that enough progress is being made for the conversation to continue at this time.
Now we haven't had any more rockets being fired over Japan, Guam's not being threatened, the rest of the world's not being threatened.
Remains have been sent back to the United States, hostages have been freed, but North Korean state media is accusing the U.S. yesterday of preparing for an invasion.
At the same time they're pursuing a dialogue with the regime with a smile on its face.
Joining us now, uh Colonel Oliver North, host of War Stories.
How are you, sir?
Good to talk to you.
I'm well glad to be with you, brother.
You know, peace through strength works, and the bottom line is it's not moving fast enough.
We made a lot of progress, but um the progress that really matters is denuclearization of the entire peninsula.
Well, and I think what we're seeing is the hand uh once again of President Xi and his Pulitbureau in not so much what's going on in North Korea, but in Beijing.
I think the the trade issue that uh the President is properly addressed with China, and they know that they're at a disadvantage in this, both economically and politically.
Uh they've been now diddling us by telling uh Kim to go slow and by uh subverting some of the sanctions that have been put in place.
Chinese are clearly helping to uh import illegally uh by all reckoning uh petroleum reserves and the like and coal into uh North Korea.
And so what you've got is a is a situation where maximum led leverage is necessary.
I think it was right to tell uh Secretary of State Pompeo not to go right now.
And and this is not a cancellation of the uh of the entire initiative.
But try this.
When you when you see the response by the rest of the so called mainstream media, I'm talking about the other networks, I'm talking about the New York Times.
It's kind of like Trump got the wool pulled over his eyes.
If he hadn't gone, if he had not even started this initiative, he'd have been blamed for not doing all that was necessary to prevent the potential of a nuclear holocaust.
And of course now he's doing what has to be done to make it work, maximum pressure, economic pressure on North Korea, and that requires that both Russia and China cooperate in this thing, and they're not.
But the world is not used to a strong America, especially on foreign policy.
I mean it's not recently they're not.
Well, and that's the point.
I mean, for example, we have these one-sided trade deals with everybody, and y you're not gonna say pretty pleased, can we can we renegotiate trade deals and you had a better deal for the country?
I mean, when the president announced today that he's terminating NAFTA, announcing a new trade agreement with Mexico, that's good for Mexico and good for the U.S., and we went over the specific details of it earlier.
Yeah.
And uh that's good for the country.
Same with our Western European allies.
I mean, the idea that we pay, you know, seventy-one cents out of every dollar to protect NATO, and that they've then put massive tariffs on American products, and the president is saying, How about no tariffs at all for friends?
And they encourage the Russians to build a pipeline for natural gas into Western Europe.
I mean, look at th they got used to the complacency of the previous administration, the blissful naivety of the Obama regime.
And what they got used to was good for them and bad for us.
We now have a president who's gonna stand up for America.
He's made it very clear since the day before he got in office.
He's still making it clear.
And despite all of the attacks on this president, what the end result is more Americans are at work, more Americans are getting increases in pay, more Americans have more take home because of the tax cuts.
And the economic advantages to the United States of doing what he's doing on trade and tariffs is absolutely the right thing.
And unfortunately, there's nobody in our main in uh so-called mainstream media, and very few of our allies, Israel is the exception, who agree with what we're doing.
Well, it's also every report, every source that I have is we know that the economy of China is in a significant decline.
The same would go for Iran.
And frankly, if you want to defeat the hostile regime of Russia and beat back Vladimir Putin, you mentioned that earlier.
All we need is to figure out the means by which we can get our natural gas and our energy over to Western Europe and at a lower cost than what Putin's offering it for, and not only will it create millions of American jobs, but also it helps in their defense.
It would be worth more than Whatever amount we're paying for for NATO defense now.
Absolutely right.
And and again, the rest of the the thing is I find to be a appalling is the willingness of our media to always strike a pose that no matter what the president does, it's the wrong thing.
I'm just it it's sickening.
It's to the point where you know many of us have just turned away from reading that kind of stuff and watching it.
And thankfully we've got Fox News, we got you, we got Rush, we got a handful of people who are not going to be able to do that.
I'm good for something, you know, Colonel.
And it's not like my you know not that I've done a whole lot in my life, but I'm good, at least I'm good for something.
Well, you out there telling the truth, thank God you are.
That's why we call it Hannity's America, buddy.
Well, why are why are they trying Look, I know they're saying they're not saying it, but we have a list of all the investigations that they would love to do if the Democrats get back power.
But you know, look, we're we're seventy-one days away now.
That is a short period of time, and there's a lot at stake.
Impeaching the president is definitely on the table for them.
Endless investigations.
They want their crumbs back.
They want open borders, they want to keep Obamacare, and they want all of the abuse of power scandals we've exposed to just go away because it benefited them.
Well, look, uh tens of millions of dollars are being expended by Bloomberg, by Steyr, by Soros, that whole crowd out to do one thing, take control of the House of Representatives and impeach the president.
They don't that you know, Nancy Pelosi says, Oh, don't let's downplay that because it scares the love and daylights out of people.
But that's clearly what the objective is here.
And if that happens, Katie barred the door on all kinds of things to include a stronger America.
I mean, look at my whole life has been spent trying to defend this country against our foreign adversaries.
Unfortunately, we've got a very powerful cabal that's lined up against this president with the idea of bringing him down.
And I have no doubt that if there's a significant gain in the House of Representatives, there will be a motion to impeach.
There will be a process by which they go through to do that, because we can't stop it anymore.
And unfortunately, that also means that initiatives like denuclearization of a very dangerous regime in North Korea will stop that.
Well, at the very least, they feel like they can paralyze the president for the two years leading up to 2020.
Because I don't see it but the thing is you do need some and I think Mueller's working on this.
I think Mueller's end game is to write a document, the Muller report, which will be for the Democrats, should they win in seventy-one days, it'll be a roadmap to impeaching Donald Trump.
Yep.
And that's why this turnout is going to be so very important in 71 days.
Well, what's your feel?
What's your gut tell you?
I don't I don't have a handle on it yet.
I mean, one thing that was pretty amazing is even a Democratic pollster and polling firm, you know, admitted over the weekend that despite uh, you know, weeks and weeks worth of so-called bombshell developments and Robert Muller's quote investigation, the president's approval rating remains, quote, remarkably stable.
Well, and you know, I I just remind everybody when I you know I've been flying all over the country.
And what I'm looking at is people who say to me, you know, I don't like some of the things he's done, but he's far better than the alternative.
And and that was so misjudged in the last election.
Remember, right up until dark on on on election day in 2016, everybody said he can't win.
I got listen, I got the exit polls.
It showed he didn't win a thing.
It showed he won nothing.
You know, just like John Kerry was going to be the next president in 04.
The exit polls showed the same thing then.
Yep.
So my hope is that the pollsters that are doing the polling right now have missed that again.
And so seventy-one days from now, my hope and my prayer is that the American people give a vote of community.
What do you think it is what do you think it is, though?
Obviously, the economy's turned around.
Obviously, he's keeping his promises.
He's doing everything he'd say that he'd do for the American people.
Conservative j judges, he's gotten rid of the bureaucracy, he's gotten rid of endless regulation, we've gotten tax cuts.
We're moving towards energy independence.
He's tough on Russia to uh than Obama ever dreamed of.
And he's and Iran and North Korea.
And Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.
He's done the right things.
And that's what my hope is the American people are going to look at that over the next seventy days, and on the 71st day, they're gonna out and pull a lever that puts in office people who will support his administration in the House of Representatives.
I don't I think the Senate's safe.
At least everything I see it.
Yeah, it looks like it, but I don't take anything for granted.
I'm not sure.
Neither do I. And you've got to remember if I knew so much about politics, you and I'd be having this conversation in my U.S. Senate office.
So I think Well, how many vote how many votes did you lose by?
It wasn't many.
It was a three-way race, and I lost by about two percent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh pretty close.
The Republican Party didn't didn't stand up and back their candidate.
Well, I think John Warner.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's what happens.
You know, the the reality of it better not happen this time.
Because people are gonna point the finger at those who undid this wonderful opportunity for a safer, sounder America.
What are your thoughts on John McCain?
Well, look at John McCain was a war hero.
John McCain was a senator for what, five terms?
Congressman before that.
There's no doubt he devoted himself to our country.
And there's no doubt that John McCain very often did things that were, I think, incorrect or wrong.
You know, his stand on some of those things that we talked about over the years that we've been at Fox together.
I just, you know, for the life of me can't figure out why why he came down the way he did.
Unfortunately, John John McCain was was a very powerful figure in many ways in in the U.S. Senate.
And the reality of it is John Warner's no longer here, and let's hope that the governor appoints somebody after John's interred at the Naval Academy Cemetery.
That the governor appoints a a good solid Republican who's gonna stand with the party and stand with the president.
That's the best we can hope for.
Listen, I you know, I was very honest.
I mean, we had massive political disagreements.
I never regretted supported supporting him in 08, and I got to know him and his family pretty well.
Yeah.
And uh there um I obviously it's hard to lose uh a father and a husband, and yeah, he served with with courageous, you know, his his story about Vietnam and and five years POW, it's inspiring.
Uh and and the fact is that he could have come home earlier than he did, but he chose to say with the rest of his comrades and come on the come home all together.
You're right.
And I I I just can't help but admire that.
And by the definition of the word hero, that is a hero, a person who puts himself at risk for the benefit of others.
All right, you've always been such a person, too.
Colonel North, great to talk to you.
Thanks for being with us.
All right, safe home.
Appreciate you.
800 941 Sean.
All right, as we continue on, 800 941 Sean, you want to be a part of the program at the top of the next hour, Congressman Darrell Issa, Bruce Orr's appearance before Congress tomorrow coming up.
Donna is in Staten Island.
Donna, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean, how are you?
I'm good.
What's happening?
Well, you know, this whole thing with uh Senator McCain and his you know, his cat thing.
Um, I'm not gonna bash him.
I I don't like to do that to uh, but not gonna praise him either.
And I think that this whole thing of not allowing Trump to come to the week, but meanwhile Obama's gonna deliver a eulogy, that kind of tells me all I need to know.
Listen, that's his choice.
Um, you know, Lindsay Graham actually said something to me recently.
I I don't think he said he actually thinks he's very close with McCain that you know there are some personality traits that are very similar.
Um John McCain made his decision.
He hates Trump.
They didn't like each other.
You don't have to like everybody in in this life in this world.
Um I I do admire what John McCain did for the service of his country.
I disagreed with John's politics.
Um I don't care to be honest with you that when he came back to the Senate floor, you know, he said to hell with them talking about talk radio hosts and cable TV hosts.
Maybe I took it personally and I shouldn't have, but um it's neither here nor there.
You know, I like to look at the good in somebody's life when they pass on, and I just think talking about them in a bad way is unseemly.
Uh I admire his heroism to his country, and he had an amazing life of service.
And you know, to think that five years he had bones broken, was beaten, and and didn't acquiesce and didn't capitulate to the enemy at the time, I can't imagine how hard that would be for any human being.
And so I admire all of that about him.
And actually, you know, at times we got along great.
And I think he was thankful for the support that I showed him in his campaign in 2008 and going against Barack Obama.
I don't regret one second of it.
Um I think it was uh, you know, the co it look, it wasn't gonna happen that year.
That's just the way it is.
And you don't win them all, sadly.
Uh and I pray for his family today.
They're they've got they're devastated and they're hurting.
They don't need any more pain from anybody on the outside, in my humble opinion, and he has the right to do his funeral any way he wants.
Judge, I wanted to make a point about what what what Greg just said.
Rod Rosenstein won't tell us when he first learned that Nellie Orr was working for Fusion GPS.
So I want to know from Bruce Orr.
When did he tell his colleagues at the Department of Justice that in violation of the law that required him to disclose his wife's occupation and her sources of income?
He did not do that.
And so when did all the other people at the Department of Justice find this out?
Because Rod Rosenstein, I've asked him twice in open hearing, and he will not give an answer.
I think there's a real smoking gun there.
I say it, I say it again.
That whole situation is a rigged witch hunt.
It's a totally rigged deal.
They should be looking at the other side.
They should be looking at all the people that got fired by them.
All of the people that got fired, they should be looking at Bruce Orr and his wife Nellie for dealing with, by the way, indirectly Russians.
They should be looking at Steel.
They should be looking at all these FBI guys who got fired and demoted.
It's a really weird it's it's not us.
It is a rigged witch hunt.
I've said it for a long time.
I think Bruce Orr is a disgrace.
I suspect I'll be taking it away very quickly.
I think that Bruce Orr is a disgrace with his wife Nellie.
For him to be in the Justice Department and to be doing what he did, that is a disgrace.
That is disqualifying for Mueller.
And Mr. Muller has a lot of conflicts also, directly yourself.
So you know that.
Mr. Muller is highly conflicted.
In fact, uh Comey is like his best friend.
I could go into conflict after conflict.
But sadly, Mr. Muller is conflicted.
But let him write his report.
We did nothing.
There's no collusion.
But if he was doing an honest report, he'd write it on the other side.
Because when you look at criminality and you look at problems, take a look at what they did, including colluding with the Russians, the other side.
It's gotta be so frustrating to know that all of these misdeeds had taken place with all the evidence with all of the people now fired or demoted in the case of Bruce Orr twice.
Yeah, he never did disclose where his wife got the income from.
We know that's Fusion GPS that used the funneled uh money from Clinton and the DNC through Perkins Couie, the law firm, uh, to in fact build the dossier using a foreign agent, and then even that foreign agent doesn't stand by the dossier, but that doesn't stop people from using it to lie to,
propagandize, and spread disinformation to the American people to sway votes in the lead up to an election, and nor did it stop them as using it for a Pfizer warrant application, not just the initial application, but three subsequent applications, and Rod Rosenstein himself signing off on the last one.
Anyway, Bruce Orr is uh going to be hearing in a closed door uh appearing in a closed door session with the House uh government reform oversight committee tomorrow.
And here with a preview of it all is Congressman Darrell Issa.
Congressman, how are you?
Sean, I'm doing great.
I will tell you, never, never in my six years of of heading the oversight committee have I seen a more easy to follow series of wrongdoing that takes you from the Russians and uh Fusion GPS and Chris uh Christopher Steele and the fake dossier all the way to trying to defeat the president,
and then after the election, this becoming part of the insurance policy that created the environment in which a special prosecutor was produced by a man, Rod Rosenstein, who has is part of this swamp that created this false narrative.
The the lines are so clear, we simply have to get each of these individuals under oath.
Tomorrow it'll be Bruce Orr, uh, who will have to answer for things that Peter Strck, even Peter Strzok admitted uh that Bruce Orr was in the middle of.
Well, the the irony of all of this is now we have more information, as uh we now understand that there's some 70 at least contacts both before and after the election between Bruce Orr and Christopher Steele.
One time Steele is concerned about Senator Grassley's letter and the inquiry in that particular case.
He's afraid that, as Christopher Steele says, he's gonna be implicated in all of this.
Uh Steele talks About trying to re-engage with the FBI.
The FBI, this is in June of 2017, they'd already fired him.
We're frustrated with how long this re-engagement with the Bureau and Mueller is taking.
Anything you can do to accelerate the process would be much appreciated.
There is some new perishable operational opportunities, which we don't want to miss out on.
And then, of course, the one that we spent a lot of time uh talking about, just saw a leak in the media about the Bureau handing over documents to Congress about my work and my relationship with them, very concerned about this.
People's lives may be endangered.
And then he was asking two days before Comey testified whether or not the fire walls would hold, or says that everything pretty much is a go and no change from before.
And then he mentioned that he's afraid he may get exposed.
So I mean, what does all of that mean to you?
Because it I know what it means to me.
What it means is the largest conspiracy, perhaps ever, but if not ever, at least since Watergate is being little by little exposed.
One that goes from Hillary Clinton to the DNC, after they did away with Bernie Sanders through their misconduct, they turned their attention to Donald Trump and they produced false information.
But unlike the plumbers, uh, for those that didn't know the history, the the folks that broke into the uh under during uh Watergate, this was a government operation.
They used private money at the DNC to create an environment in which they were able to leverage the awesome power and authority of the federal government to begin spying and making Donald Trump look less loyal to his country, more involved with Russia, when in fact nothing could be further from the truth, at least based on any and all evidence till today, and it's been an awful lot of they're looking for something that isn't there.
I keep hearing that if we ever got a look at the unredacted final FISA application, if we ever got a copy of the 302s uh specifically involved in the engagement of of specific individuals, if everything was ever released that the whole thing would come crumbling down.
Do you believe that to be true?
Do you know that to be true?
I believe it to be true, and I believe the American people in this case, at the insistence of the president, have an absolute right to know whether that's true or not.
It's amazing to me that the Department of Justice, under Attorney General Jeff Sessions, cannot seem to stop their old habit of thwarting Congress.
Under Obama, we understood why.
They were working for their boss.
Now, in fact, they're working by definition against what their own leaders are saying they want, which is full transparency.
They're not even giving partial transparency.
And as you know, the Speaker of the House is third in line to the presidency.
Obviously, Mike Pence, second in line, and then the president.
The fact is they're not even being given the whole truth.
And that's the thing that I'd like to know.
Don't we know that Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS was, and again, Christopher Steele, when put under oath in Great Britain in an interrogatory with the threat of perjury hanging over his head, said, I this is all raw intelligence.
I don't know if anything in this dossier is true.
But do we know that if he that he in fact went to the American media to propagate these lies to influence an American election with things that he never verified?
In other words, before filing the Pfizer, was this misinformation being being used to hurt then candidate Trump to help Hillary Clinton?
A document she paid for based on Russian lies, did they cover that up?
Everything I have seen behind closed doors indicates the answer is yes.
That in fact, Christopher Steele's job wasn't just to create a fake dossier, it was also to get it to the media as many times as it took so that they could then say the media had reported so they then could use it further as though it was evidence.
In other words, like the Michael Lizakoff Yahoo's story, it came from Steele.
So while the bulk of the information for the application came from the dossier, then they say, see, even the media is reporting it, but the source for Michael Izakoff's article was Christopher Steele.
It's circular reporting.
It's circular reporting, and it's just like somebody who tells somebody gossip, and then when that gets to somebody else, they then use it as a source.
Except in this case, it was used to gain Pfizer warrants.
It was Used to disparage the president.
It was used to create an environment in which the attorney general recused himself and allowed a special prosecutor to be created by none other than Rod Rosenstein, who is part of that, in fact, pre-election conspiracy.
If you tie Bruce Orr, his deep friendship and working relationship with Christopher Steele, and I assume, you know, I would also include Glenn Simpson or at least somebody from Fusion GPS, and then his wife working at Fusion GPS.
Do we know for sure she worked on this phony dossier?
You know, we don't know that yet.
Uh, what we do know is Fusome GPS is not that large of organization.
Uh, and the coincidence of her being there leaves little doubt.
But Sean, uh Hannity, I want to give you one thing that your listeners need to hear, and that is that in any conspiracy like this, the vast majority of communication occurs in person or possibly over the phone.
Remember, we don't have any phone calls.
We don't have any personal communication.
We have probably the tip of the iceberg, 5% or less of the communication.
Most of it, including with Nellie, uh Bruce Orr's wife, probably occurred in person one-to-one or over the phone.
And that's one of the challenges is we're connecting the dots when in fact most of the material was done very cleverly, as they like to say, over the transom, meaning the way spies communicate in a way that can't easily be traced.
What else is there that would be available as it relates to the gang of eight that would support and prove this narrative to be true if the president were to declassify such?
Well, first of all, once we have sort of the openness of this information, then the voters and and the America will know most of what they need to know to make a decision once and for all on Hillary Clinton and the false narrative that somehow the president was the one dealing in in uh, if you will, Russian collusion or anything of this sort.
The second part and the the more important part is that many of these individuals in a real investigation, if we had a special prosecutor, as the president believes we should, we would be looking at at records of phone calls.
We'd be finding those communications.
We must not know the content, but at least we'd know how many times a phone call went between people and begin to connect the dots there, probably leading, if you will, not just to Christopher Steele, but then to the people he was involved in, which could be the Russians.
Wow.
I mean, it's unbelievable.
So basically everything that we've been told is not true.
What do you make of what Mueller has done here?
I mean, he he it seems like he went out of his way to um indict former KGB guys, Russian intelligence people, and we know that they're never going to come to the U.S. or be extradited in any way.
So that's a waste of time.
We know he he mentioned these Russian bot companies, and now a couple of them are fighting back, and he doesn't even want to provide them discovery.
Why do I think that is going nowhere?
And really, the essence of the investigation is now moved on to uh loan applications, tax returns, and uh and the such of Paul Manafort and Michael Cohn, and there's nothing to do with Russia, the president, the campaign, or collusion of any type.
Well, uh what we need to get from Mueller, we're not going to get.
We need equal justice, but he has very carefully said it's outside his purview, and that was created by Rod Rosen's guy.
Well, wait a minute, how could it be outside of his purview, but Paul Manafort's loan applications from before he ever knew Trump is within his purview?
You're exactly right.
Hannity, you're exactly right.
But what he's been doing is carefully saying, I can't go back toward Hillary.
That's not within my four square, which is the reason that if Jeff Sessions would do what Jeff Sessions should do, and any good attorney general would do is appoint a separate prosecutor to go that way.
Well, why won't he do it?
Look, I sometimes when you see someone freeze like the deer in the headlights of an oncoming car, you can't explain why somebody would do something.
I have been so disappointed that the attorney general has neither called foul with the investigation he's seen, nor insisted on the other investigation.
But the first step that the attorney general has to do, and I am here today calling on Jeff Sessions, where I worked with when he was a senator, to make sure the documents Congress has asked for are delivered in an unredacted way or resigned.
Pick, make it make a decision, deliver the documents pursuant to lawful uh interest of Congress or resign.
Well, it seems like it's heading hopefully in that direction.
All right.
Thank you, sir, for being with us.
Uh, we'll watch uh very closely tomorrow.
Darrell Isa, eight hundred nine four one Sean is a toll-free telephone number you want to be a part of the program.
Say hi to Karen in California.
Karen, hi, how are you?
You're on the Sean Hannity Show.
Hi Sean, it's so nice to be able to talk to you.
I watch you every single evening and I tape it and I watch it sometimes twice and I just want to thank you for what you're doing for the country for our president and for promoting the truth of what's going on.
Wow you're really nice thank you very much.
Well to see there are still sensible people in California I'm beginning to worry.
I mean this is the sanctuary state now this is the state with 13 and a half percent state income tax where no Republican I think has a chance of winning at least in the foreseeable future but there are some important congressional races out there Karen if we win those that's probably going to be a game changer in 71 days.
Well we have to do something to change California and make it go red again like she did with Reagan and uh we've got to do it.
We have to do it.
If you have any ideas yeah for people to open their eyes and realize that the state is being destroyed by the likes of Gavin Newsom and uh Jerry Brown.
I think that's that's the perfect answer.
But I'm gonna count on you Karen will deputize you to go out there and help us in 71 days 800 941 Sean Toll Free telephone number when we come back Dr. Francis E. Jensen professor department chair of neurology at the Pearlman School of Medicine author of a New York Times bestseller the teenage brain and uh by the way why do we have all these violent school shootings etc with these kids what's going on in their heads hopefully she'll shed some light in on to all of that next 25 till the top of the hour thanks for
being with us Jacksonville Florida Sheriff Michael Williams speaking after the deadly shooting that took place over the weekend in Jacksonville Florida during a gaming event at a popular shopping center in Jacksonville killing two people wounding several others before the gunman killed himself gunfire heard around one p.m at a video gaming event Jacksonville landing Madden NFL championship series and uh in addition to the two killed eleven people were injured nine of them with gunshot
I mean, just sad.
But we keep hearing about all of these kids and all of these shooting incidences.
And rather than, you know, make it an argument, the predictable argument about guns and guns and guns, etc.
I don't think it's necessarily going to be a gun if somebody wants to kill somebody or is having impulses to kill somebody.
They're going to probably find a way to do it.
And what is going on with our kids?
Is it related in any way?
you know, do we have answers to what
is going on the psychology the psychiatry behind all of this Dr. Francis E. Johnson professor department of uh chair of neurology at the Pearlman School of Medicine and at the University of Pennsylvania also New York Times bestseller book called The Teenage Brain and uh welcome uh your well-known neuroscientist and world renowned and um what is going on in these kids' brains that causes this well thanks for um having me on and
I hope I can help shed some light.
So there's been a lot of science in the last, say, 15 years, two decades, that is really revealing a lot about how our brain develops and that the teenage brain and the late teenager, early 20s is not yet adult.
In fact, the brain is the most complex organ, and it doesn't fully develop to about 30 years of age.
And what we're understanding, two big things that might be relevant here.
here um related to the uh to the adolescent and young adult brain first of all your brain areas are specialized and there's parts of your brain that are um really built for risky risk taking emotionality sexuality rage all those emotional things in a part of your brain called the limbic system but you also have a part of your brain called the frontal lobe which is executive control decision making judgment empathy impulse control Organization.
Those are kind of what we consider our executive functions.
That part of the brain, the frontal lobe, is not as full.
The connections to that part of their brain that of the brain are not as mature yet until mid to late 20s.
So the connection.
By the way, especially for boys, don't girls' brains mature sooner?
Exactly.
So science is showing that on average, now on average, they're early boys and late girls, they're about two years difference at least between, you know, on the maturational scale scale of when you reach full maturity.
So what in the adolescent period and early, you know, adulthood, we have brains that have um are very emotionally charged because the emotional parts of the brain are um functioning very well, but the frontal lobe connections back to those rate um areas are not as fully developed as they will be in adults.
So impulse control or thinking through things, organization or cause and effect are not going to be ready at the you know, and in the split second uh judgments that um adults can make, adolescents are not.
So, how long I mean, I'm a parent of uh soon to be 20-year-old and and soon to be seventeen year old, and I'm thinking, great, lucky me, I'm in the worst of it, am I not?
Well, it's a very exciting time because the other part not that exciting for dad, I can tell you that.
Right.
So um there's there are very many good things about this part of development.
It's they they need to be exploring.
So in a way, our brains are built probably so that you do go out and take some risks under, you know, under moderate conditions.
But your brain can learn faster in this window, and actually your IQ can change in your teen years, science is now shown.
So it's a time when you're building better connections between your brain cells, which are called neurons.
They have connections called synapses.
You actually can build synapses faster and you know, stronger in this age window.
Now, the uh down the good side of that is that they can learn fast, but the downside is that they can get um they can learn bad things fast in this window too.
So addiction actually, we've learned neuroscience is now shown it's simply a form of learning.
So when people get addicted to drugs or even video games, for instance, it's using this reward circus in circuit and creating um connections at a much higher rate and much stronger.
Well, I gotta be honest, I mean my adulthood.
My son in particular, you know, spends a a ton of time playing Xbox.
Now he plays everything from Madden football, MBA games, call of duty.
I mean, they play it all.
And um I don't p I I'd rather have them play an Xbox than going out drinking and hanging out with kids that are in trouble or whatever else they might be doing.
Sure.
So they become experts of video games a lot faster than adults do because they can learn a lot of things.
It's annoying.
He he doesn't even have the patience to teach me how to get the first base on these things.
Like, oh I'll do it.
I'll do it.
That's right.
That's right.
And and of course, we as parents look at them and and just marvel at that, but then can't understand why they go ahead and do things that you know we would say are obvious not to do.
And that's why we call these, you know, teenagers sort of Ferraris with weak breaks.
The weak the breaks meaning their frontal lobes, but their brains are very, very active.
So they need us as adults to we have our frontal lobes in place and connected fully, and we have to be sort of give them a frontal lobe assist, if you will, from time to time.
And that goes on an individual basis, but I think uh, you know, across society, we need to think about this rather tender age where they are very impressionable, they learn super fast for good and bad things, and yet their ability to um d decision make is is not what it's you're not giving me any hope at all.
I mean, you're basically saying, sorry, your kids' brains are underdeveloped as it r relates to impulse control, and it's gonna be that way until probably they're 25.
Thanks a lot.
That's not what I wanted to hear.
So what you would like to hear is that you can teach them how to be under better control.
Well, that would assume that they listen to me and you know uh they might hear me, but they don't listen.
So one of the big messages that we are giving now about for parents and and everybody in general who interacts with teenagers is to be mindful of they are not adults with fewer miles on them.
And so we have to kind of have that insight when you're relating to um to a teenager.
And I always say, you know, if if possible, try not to alienate oneself from a teenager because then they really won't listen to you at the same time.
Well, why can't they just follow the simple rules I lay out for them and not break the rules?
Well, you know, when you actually go through the process and role play with them, they you do a lot of role play as a teaching, you know, as you can teach.
I can go back to when I was being raised.
You know, there was no role playing except my father, I did something wrong.
He took off his belt, he beat the crap out of me.
Now I've never done that to my own kids.
But that was the extent of role playing in the home I grew up in.
Well, you know, our our um experience as teenagers, you know, X number of years ago is very different to the very challenging environment that our teenagers are in.
Now teenage brains have been the exact same brain for the last you know millennia.
But the That's what I'm afraid of.
His teenage brain is exactly the way my teenage brain was and that's not good for anybody.
So um the issue is the environment around the teenagers is offering them a lot more um risks to take if you will and we have to kind of think about that like what what do they have you know at the ready that they may or may make not make good decisions about how accessible are you know drugs, weapons, all these other things in the environment, knowing that they have, you know, this propensity for impulsivity.
Another thing that I think we need to think about in the teenage, a lot of people, it's news to them, is that mental illness is actually largely developmental in that, you know, one in four to one in five people in our country have some form of mental illness ranging from something mild like anxiety all the way up to, you know, a more serious disease like bipolar or schizophrenia, psychosis.
And it's interesting that the time when these diseases, these disorders come on is in late teens and early adulthood because they require a a certain amount of brain development meaning to your frontal lobes to actually fully um manifest.
So one of the issues is that about 75% of people who have mental illness have their onset between 16 and 26 years of age and I think that we now that we have this science that shows us that and why that's happening we might want to think about screening people.
We screen for colon cancer in 50 year old plus breast cancer prostate well if you would have examined me when I was 17 I could tell you right now I would have been off the charts you know lock them up.
Well I think you you you may um have proven that wrong but um well I mean my mother used to say it was either going to be prison or success there'd be no in between so well I think in structured environments for kids learning environments are really important this winter.
Remember I said your IQ can change in your teen years.
And so you're setting the person up you know basically with scaffolding for the for the more eloquent parts of their brain are being built in the teen years.
So in other words you're basically saying we need to put a trampoline and a net underneath them because they're going to fall through it in all likelihood.
Well they're not did you not do anything wrong when you were a teenager I mean I was in trouble.
They all did wrong things.
I think what we but I don't think you were as incorrigible as I am I've uh believe me I've I know of many people that survived through this window.
I do think though that you're going to get extreme cases um where things go extremely wrong and most people will through trial and error.
Now trial and error is exactly that you know your brain is learning by making small mistakes hopefully small and not highly what is the worst thing you did as a teenager with you know when your brain wasn't fully developed.
I'm going to take the fifth on that but I would say Oh come on what what's the worst thing you did I don't think you ever gotten any trouble.
I can tell you I did so I think that people um in this window are we we couldn't we shouldn't be too surprised when kids do get in trouble and that's what I say to parents is that um you know to be a little bit more understanding and not alienate your kid because then you aren't going to be able to sort of work them out of you know help them reason their way out of situations or to learn new skills to not go there again.
And that, I think, is very important.
Well, what about on a serious note, all these kids that play these, say, violent video games or see violent movies, do you think it impacts them negatively or, you know, kids understand that?
Well, we know that our brain, we have something called plasticity.
Our synapses, we call it plastic because they're moldable by experience.
So, yes, we are very, we know in earlier parts of childhood that if you are exposed to a stressful event, that you actually can suffer consequences as a result of that.
There is emerging evidence the same is.
in adolescence one thing that is very interesting um uh from what I was saying about the fact that their um emotional parts of their brain, their limbic system is is sort of connected up before several years ahead of when their frontal lobe finishes its full connections.
is that when you show a teenager an emotionally charged scene and you're measuring their brain function, they actually show almost twice as much activity in their limbic system as does an adult shown the exact same stressful scene.
So, So we know that they're more vulnerable to the effects of stress, and certainly they're picking it up.
They're experiencing um, you know, emotion, I always say in technicolor to our black and white.
So we have to realize that this is sort of an highly emotional period of of sort of responsivity in this age group, and that that will pass, but it is managing the environment.
Um and I think you're giving us a lot of good tools as it relates to helping kids.
It's just scary to be a parent out there.
There's so many bad influences.
Uh Doctor, thank you for being with us.
We appreciate it.
And then next time you can tell us all the horrible things you did when you were a teenager.
No, so remember, knowledge is power, and um as parents and and teachers and counselors uh n understand and learn this new brain science of what we're doing.
And when did you when did you when do you think your frontal lobe kicked in where you were acting rationally completely?
I think we're all getting there in our twenties.
I think you see a lot of change.
You get people who need to take gap years, people who need to, you know, reorganize themselves.
It's a very, very active time.
And as I said, the brain isn't done yet until you're you know close to 30, which is it's it's actually can be a very positive message.
I don't think Linda, our producer's brain is fully formed because she's she says anything that comes into her head.
It's funny, I was just thinking the same thing about you.
She has majority.
You act like a 16-year-old boy.
She has major impulse control when it comes to using cuss words, I'll tell you that.
No, I think I think hard and long about which ones I use.
You're welcome.
Is there any medicine you can give her or offer her?
She's on my side.
You're gonna lose this one.
No, one and one last thing I would say, um, just about another little di piece of information that often is relevant for people is that you know peer pressure effects are very, very strong in this window.
I agree.
So so kids should not have any friends at all.
I agree.
Keep them away from their friends.
Sorry about you know the effects of you know social media in terms of bringing bringing social isolation or or actually the wrong social context into the lives of these of kids.
So I think there's a you know, there's a huge amount we kind of have to think about as a as parents and the society around teenagers, because you know, it's sometimes you worry that people sort of are playing with fire when they're on the case.
All right, I'm up on a hard break.
We thank you, Dr. Jensen.
Appreciate you being with us.
800-941 Sean, toll-free telephone number.
I hope that helps as it relates to you know what's going on inside your kids' brains.
It's scary.
All right, Hannity tonight, nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel.
By the way, Lindsey Graham will be uh a special guest tonight, the great one, Mark Levin, Andy McCarthy, and Alan Dershowitz, Greg and Sarah, and Congressman Mark Meadows, all coming up nine Eastern tonight.
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