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Aug. 3, 2018 - Sean Hannity Show
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The Polls Are Coming Up- 8.3

John McLaughlin and Doug Schoen join Sean to break down the latest midterm poll numbers. Plus, is President Trump good for the nation? The numbers suggest he is! The Sean Hannity Show is on weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All right, glad you're with us, and happy Friday to you.
We got a really important interview coming up with the chairman of the House Intel Committee, Devin Nunes.
There is so much percolating out there.
It is officially now a TikTok that I can mention about unbelievable information as it relates to FISA and what a scam and abuse of power it was.
A lot of it relates to the 20 missing redacted pages in the last FISA memo.
And I'm told that there are emails that corroborate what a devastating fraud this entire thing was.
And we expect a lot of this to come out sometime next week.
And to the extent I guess it's possible, we'll ask Chairman Nunes about all of this as the program unfolds today.
Glad you're with us.
And also, we have, we're starting a new series today, made in America.
Although it's getting very interesting, there are so many unbelievable success stories in American business.
I love the fact that we have, we can now say American-made, American jobs, American manufacturing, American products made in America.
Well, Hannity, that is very myopic of you because I want my fellow, I'm not going to ever apologize for wanting the people in this country to have the most opportunity first.
And if you think for a second that there's any other country out there that wants another country to succeed before their country succeeds, then you're living in a fantasy world that is not rooted in any kind of what is real reality.
And I think the fact that we want America to succeed and America to be successful is a good thing.
Got some more job numbers today, and I think this is pretty amazing.
You know, discussing this morning's unemployment report, Charles Payne, who works for the Fox Business Network, a friend of the program, tossed out an amazing statistic that I think really spotlights the remarkable transformation that this economy now has undergone since President Trump took office a little over 18 months ago.
He said he looked at all the ADP reporting yesterday.
Do you realize, and these were the jobs that Obama said were never, ever, ever, ever coming back?
830,000 new manufacturing jobs created since Donald Trump's been president.
And during the prior 19 months under Obama, there was only 26,000 manufacturing jobs created.
Let me give you the numbers again.
19 months of Trump, 830,000 new manufacturing jobs, only 26,000 manufacturing jobs created during the last 19 months of Obama's presidency.
And Obama said those jobs were not going to be coming back.
And this is the point.
You know, the president's been on the phone with corporations, with companies, car companies, carrier air conditioner, Apple, and all the rest of them.
And literally and specifically asking what regulations are in the way of you creating a better business environment in this country.
In other words, what can we do to help you to stay here beyond getting rid of regulations and tax incentives, et cetera?
In other words, building in states like Michigan and Wisconsin and Ohio and Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Florida, the ones that matter, but those are also the states that took the biggest hit in large part because Obama was telling us to accept what is a new normal.
The only president in history that never reached 3% GDP growth for a single year of his presidency that took on more debt than every other president combined before him.
And that gave us another 13 million Americans dependent on food stamps and 8 million more in poverty.
Those are horrific statistics.
For those folks who've lost their job right now, because a plant went down to Mexico, that isn't going to make you feel better.
And so what we have to do is to make sure that folks are trained for the jobs that are coming in now, because some of those jobs of the past are just not going to come back.
Why would we ever allow them to go?
Why would the federal government get in the way of people prospering?
You know what bothers me about?
It's such an arrogant, elitist, pseudo-intellectual comment that it's like, we, those jobs are never coming back.
Well, here's the problem.
If you only created 26,000 manufacturing jobs or were created in your last 19 months, and Trump, who's been lobbying, fixing, transforming the bureaucracy, ending burdensome regulation on business, creating a business-friendly environment, changing the tax laws, allowing repatriation of money parked overseas, et cetera, so that these companies can build factories and manufacturing centers for us.
And you got 830,000, those jobs are coming back.
You know, I guess it's so easy for these elites to just sit back in their high and mighty chambers or whatever they're talking about because every one of those Americans that used to live in Detroit or Michigan or somewhere in Ohio or Pennsylvania, every one of those 13 million more Americans on food stamps and 8 million more Americans in poverty, those are real people.
These are real families.
There's real devastation.
There's real suffering.
And there's real consequences to bad governing.
And now that's all beginning to change because you have a president that cares about the forgotten men and women.
I don't understand why these people in Washington don't understand what life is like for the average person in this country that gets up every day, shovels a little coffee down their throat, maybe takes a bite of a donut or an egg, and they get their kids, you know, washed, cleaned, dressed, teeth brushed out the door, take them to school.
They put in their 12, 14 hours a day.
They come home and they usually throw together some macaroni and cheese, hamburger helper, whatever, or maybe chicken or whatever they're cooking that day and a couple of vegetables.
And then they get into bed and they pass out after maybe spending an hour with their kids on their homework.
Why can't America be profitable?
I kept saying this during the, you know, because we've been such a stupid country as it relates to energy.
I mean, we have this opportunity.
We have more energy than Russia, the Middle East, and everywhere in between combined.
When you factor in ANWAR and you factor in natural gas and liquefied natural gas and you factor in coal and you factor in ethanol and corn that are grown by our farmers, you factor it all in together.
We have all of our needs right here in America.
And these energy jobs, they even pay, they're paying these truck drivers $100,000 a year with overtime, $110, $115,000 a year.
And maybe they were making $30,000, or maybe they were making $40,000 a year or $50,000 a year, but now they're doing better.
Well, we can multiply that effect by moving faster and having a goal of energy independence and as quickly a timetable as possible.
That is going to transform the lives of millions of American families.
You know what?
Why shouldn't they have a nice house in a nice neighborhood, a safe neighborhood, drive a decent car or a truck, and put money away for retirement so they can have a, maybe buy a place down in the villages or wherever they want to live?
And they can play some golf, go fishing, do whatever they want to do after they work their 40 years in life, 50 years in life.
You know, why can't they have a decent vacation once a year, go out to dinner every two weeks?
You know, Americans are not, Americans are not afraid to work.
That's another myth that drives me absolutely nuts.
That's too good.
Americans won't do these jobs.
It's total bull.
That's just a lie.
It's a total myth.
You know, you have on the one hand, you have Democrats always thinking, well, this is a new constituency if we have open borders that'll keep us in power for generations.
Then you got, you know, corporate America wanting cheap labor.
No, no cheap labor.
How about we give you better?
Look at what is happening at places like Costco and Walmart and Target and other stores.
Their minimum wage is $14 an hour and they're giving bonuses and they're taking, they've taken the tax cut benefits and they're passing it on to their employees.
I love those stores for doing that.
I love those stores anyway.
You know, but again, I'm one of the smelly Walmart people that is an irredeemable, deplorable that clings to my God-gun Bible and religion.
All right, I'm sorry, I'm guilty as charged.
Smelly people.
We're the smelly Walmart people.
Anyway, just to continue with this report, in July, the unemployment rate fell to 3.9%.
Non-farm payroll employment rose by 150,000 jobs.
Key sectors that saw the biggest gains and new hires were professional and business services, manufacturing, healthcare, and social assistance.
Actually, the job creation figures were revised upwards in both May and June as well.
So you add another 60,000 new jobs to the total.
And when you add May and June's uptick, you've got 217,000 new jobs for the month.
Well, those are 217,000 people, families' lives that are going to be better off.
You know, I don't understand this.
You know, you go to the election in 95 days.
I mean, I can't even believe that there's even a thought of a blue wave when Nancy Pelosi refers to our tax cuts as crumbs and she wants to raise taxes and she's saying it as Elizabeth Warren.
They want their crumbs back.
If it's only crumbs, why do they want them back so desperately?
Or the fact that everyone is talking about even Obama now eliminating ICE.
We eliminate ice.
We don't protect our borders.
Where are a lot of the drugs coming in?
These cartels literally feeding our kids in big cities and small towns these opioids.
And these kids are getting addicted and dying.
Talked to Eric Bowling the other day.
He lost his son because of this crap.
And it's an epidemic.
Control the borders.
Go down to a security hearing with Governor Perry at the time at the border in Texas.
Seven-year period, 642,000 crimes committed against Texans alone.
Seven-year period, including horrible crimes in some cases, like murder.
You know, you just go over this.
Manufacturing added another 37,000 jobs for the month, which is more than the 26,000 that Obama added in his last 19 months.
After 36,000 in June, we're adding nearly 40,000 manufacturing jobs a month.
And durable manufacturing accounted for nearly all the increase as the industrial and blue-collar employees in the transportation, equipment, machinery, electronics, instruments sectors were hiring.
And over the last 12 months, manufacturing has added 320,000, 27,000 new jobs.
You know, this, I'll tell you more about this when we get back.
There's a Rasmussen poll.
Yesterday had the president at 50%, but that's not even the big number.
I mean, look at this demographically.
Now that we have 14 state historic low unemployment, historic low unemployment, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, African Americans, and women in the workforce.
14 states, record lows.
Anyway, Rasmussen shows in his survey that President Trump's approval rating among African American voters now stands at a staggering 29%.
Well, that's more than triple of what it was in November of 2016.
This is transformative.
And that, as Pastor Scott said on TV last night, he's doing more to help the black community than any president in our lifetime.
He's bringing jobs and revitalization to every town and city in the country.
That's what he's supposed to do.
And he's doing it at the speed of Trump, which makes it even better.
All right, as we roll along, Sean Hannity.
So all this great economic news, it's all about, was all about 2016 and is all about and should always be all about the men and women in this country, the people of this country.
And when government becomes, in the sense, the obstacle to success, it's got to be changed.
Everybody thinks, you know, the government is going to be the government.
The government is not going to be there for you.
The whole premise, keep your doctor, keep your plan, save less, save money, pay less, was one big hoax and lie perpetrated on you, the American people.
You know, all this push and the Democratic Party moving so hard socialist left with promises that they will never ever be able to fulfill as evidenced by what happened with healthcare.
It turned into an unmitigated disaster.
Now, Republicans, I want them to step up and finish the job.
I know they got rid of the individual mandate and it was literally on a T and John McCain decided to change his vote.
I'm not going to, you know, let's not go down and re-argue old issues here.
But it's going to matter if we could pick up five Senate seats, hold the Senate, hold the House, we could fix that.
If you want the borders secure and you don't want to eliminate ICE and you don't want open borders, well, you can fix that by who it is you're going to vote for.
There's going to be about 45 to 50 districts in this next midterm election that are going to matter.
We're going to spell it out next week.
Every single district that's going to matter the most.
This is important for all of us.
If you want Obamacare gone, if you want our borders secured, if you don't want to be dragged through the misery of this idiotic impeachment that the Democrats want to go through based on no evidence, if you want to hold on to the crumbs, meaning the thousands of dollars in tax benefits you have, if you want a president that's going to keep encouraging manufacturers to move to America and build their factories and manufacturing centers here, you know,
if you want somebody that's tough on national security that stopped Rocketman from firing missiles over Japan, now the bodies of our brave soldiers coming home and our hostages coming home and all those benefits, and you want it out of the Iranian deal and you wanted Jerusalem the capital of Israel and a president that had the courage to do it.
This is what's in play in 95 days.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour, 800-941-Sean is our toll-free telephone number.
As I stretched to the printer, which was really far away.
So this so-called Russian Facebook hack, we now find out actually targeted Trump.
This is on Breitbart.com.
You know, a little detail that your fake newsers leaving out, they're breathless reporting, the latest so-called Russian hack attack against Facebook.
The same Russian hackers who supposedly worked so hard, if you believe the left, and they didn't.
They just wanted to sow chaos.
And there's no evidence.
It's been proven over and over again that it ever helped Donald Trump in any way, shape, matter, or form, nor did it impact the election in any way, shape, matter, or form.
Anyway, the same ones that we're supposed to be so outraged about.
We now find out that Facebook announced today they're banning 32 inauthentic Facebook pages with connections to previously banned accounts linked to Russia's internet research agency.
All the examples of inauthentic pages highlighted by Facebook, however, were leftist anti-Trump ones.
Oh, that's not good.
That goes against their narrative.
Robert Mueller had some very, very busy day these last couple of days.
And I see that Robert Mueller has now grilled the madam of Elliot Spitzer.
Remember that case?
Anyway, no holds barred, attempt to find somebody, anybody who'll say that Donald Trump colluded with Russia.
Now, we do have collusion evidence, and the evidence is right there transparent in front of our face.
And we've been playing it all week.
Adam Schiff is colluding with a Russian thinking they've got naked pictures on Donald Trump.
It's like the funniest audio we've ever heard.
I'll play it later for Devin Nunes when he joins us or the House Intel Committee, the chairman of that committee.
And then we have Hillary, of course, paying for the phony Russian dossier that they use to lie to you, the American people, and propagandize you and misinform you in the lead up to the 2016 election so that you would think horrible things about Trump that weren't true.
And then it got even worse when they lied to FISA court judges and applications to spy on a Trump campaign associate in the lead up to an election.
Not just the original application, but the three subsequent applications.
Anyway, the investigators with special counsel Robert Mueller's office on Wednesday interviewed Kristen Davis.
Remember her?
The former, well, I guess prostitution mogul, is that the right word?
The madam went to prison for her ties to New York Governor Elliot Spitzer.
Why does she go to jail and Spitzer goes free?
It's a fair question.
Anyway, dubbed the Manhattan Madam.
She voluntarily met with federal investigators regarding a relationship with Trump advisor.
I don't know.
I guess we'll bring Roger Stone back.
I don't know that Roger Stone was in any way connected with the Trump campaign in an official basis at all.
I don't even think he was.
I know he's known Trump for a lot of years.
I guess been friends with him for a lot of years, but he's been friends with this madam lady, too, apparently, for a number of years.
I mean, Roger Stone's just a pretty colorful character.
Even as a tattoo of Richard Nixon.
Anyway, the network noted that it is unclear what the focus of the interview was or how she's connected to Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.
There is no Russian interference as it relates to the Trump campaign.
I mean, this is the absurdity of what's going on in the Manafort trial.
And I don't have a clue what Paul Manafort did or did not do in 2016.
But I know that the only reason that he got indicted is because they were dredging up an old, previously researched and put-in mothballs investigation into Paul Manafort to put the screws to him, to make him sing or compose in the hopes that they can prosecute or impeach Donald Trump.
But we also know that this trial of the century, if you watch the left-wing media, we know that it has nothing to do with Russia.
It has nothing to do with the 2016 campaign.
It has nothing to do with Donald Trump.
It has nothing to do with collusion.
And this is what they think their big case is.
And Hillary runs free.
And she paid for Russian lies and propagated distortion, propaganda, misinformation, tried to manipulate the American people.
And then her friends in the FBI and the DOJ, the upper echelon, not the rank and file guys that do their good work every day.
They took it specifically out of those guys' hands in the field offices, which, by the way, you know, the heroes I'm telling you in this story in the end are going to be FBI agents.
They're going to be the rank and file guys.
They're going to be the guys that wouldn't dare do what their bosses did.
Anyway, she's the one that had that whole investigation rigged and fixed in a phony, you know, exoneration written before any investigation took place.
They didn't even interview her or 17 other key witnesses in the case.
It's unbelievable.
The times we're living in.
If you don't have equal justice under the law and you don't have equal application of our laws and you rig an investigation for a favored candidate and you have a stated goal of stopping the other candidate and going into phony investigations with that and then even spying on having spies in the Trump campaign, I actually think it's going to turn out to be worse than that.
And then you also use an unverified, Clinton-bought and paid for, funneled money, you know, op research, foreign national, Russian sources that even the guy that put it together says, I have no idea if any of this crap is true.
That becomes the basis to lie to FISA court judges, purposely withhold information to these judges about who paid for this dossier, and then tell the judges act like it's gospel truth when they never even bothered to take the time to even verify it as per FISA law, as per FBI protocol.
There's not one FBI agent, I'm telling you, these are good people and they love their jobs and they respect the law.
That will not tell you privately that what they did here is absolutely would get everybody else fired.
But in the end, they want to tell this, they want to tell that story, but they can't tell that story until they get subpoenaed.
So now we got the matter.
Now we're interviewing the Manhattan Madam.
Yeah, I mean, really?
Is that where it's all gone?
Why?
Because they're going after Roger Stone is not even officially with the campaign.
And they've got Adam Schiffless Schiff on tape colluding with the Russians.
He thinks it's a Russian that's going to give him naked pictures of Donald Trump.
And that Vladimir Putin has seen them and he's compromised and he's making a deal.
Look, the idea that anybody in politics is going to turn down an opportunity to get op research.
Talking to people is not a crime.
And if you're seeking op research, well, I guess it's a hell of a lot better if it turns out to be true than the lies that Hillary paid for in an effort to propagandize and misinform you, the American people.
And then was used after they rigged her investigation, then was used to lie to FISA court judges to get warrants to spy on Trump campaign associates.
It's unbelievable.
And we're worried about what Paul Manafort may have done or didn't do with his freaking taxes in 2005.
It's unbelievable.
No wonder this, no wonder this judge in this particular case is so outraged the way he is.
Hang on, I got my daughter calling.
Hey, sweetheart, how are you?
What's going on?
I thought you were going somewhere today.
You didn't go yet.
Did you go?
You're in the what?
Oh, you there already?
Oh, okay.
I'll call you back in the break, baby.
Love you.
Yes, you have a question.
I'm doing a radio show.
Can I call you right after the break?
What's the question?
Go ahead.
Forget that this.
When are we getting what?
Oh, you like the picture of the pup in two weeks.
I'll call you right in a break.
Love you.
Goodbye.
So, on a scale of one to 10, Linda, how bad was that radio?
Pretty awful.
Yeah, pretty.
What am I supposed to do?
I got to be a father.
I'm not supposed to.
I told Jason to start playing Daddy's Little Girl.
Oh, stop it.
You did not.
I swear.
I apologize, but you know, I apologize.
I'll just leave it there.
And when I said to her, I go, Well, I'm on the air.
She goes, I said, Can I call you back?
No, I need an answer.
You know, she's talking about the puppy.
She's talking about this puppy 24/7.
You know what just happened to me right now?
What?
I got a phone call.
From a colleague.
You know what I said?
What?
I'm on the air.
Can I call you back?
It was very complicated.
All right.
What am I supposed to do?
She's your daughter.
She gets special privileges.
She's my daughter.
She gets special privileges in Singapore.
I like her a lot.
I'm glad.
Yeah.
She actually was so good on the air.
She said two words in a half hour.
I tell you, man, I'm going to let her guest host the next time you take off.
You know, who wants to guest host and we should let him is Rudy Giuliani.
I think my guest host.
I have a weekend that I have to go to go to a wedding or something and whatever it is.
And that would be great.
Anyway, back to my focus here because I think that at the end of the day here, this is pretty outrageous stuff.
You know, and you know, we have an update after losing patience.
This happened yesterday in the courtroom in the Manafort case.
Judge T.S. Ellis III was so frustrated at the conduct of Mueller's team that he literally pulled the plug on yesterday's session while Mueller's lead prosecutor was still questioning a witness.
This now has happened three days in a row.
They're told, stop telling the jury that this guy is rich.
It's not a crime in America to have money.
Now, he might be guilty of bad taste.
I have no idea what that ostrich coat was all about.
Did you ever hear of an ostrich coat before, Linda?
I've never heard of one of those things before.
And it didn't look like anything I'd ever wear.
If he's going to get a leather jacket, get a motorcycle jacket.
I have one of those and I wear one.
Anyway, third day in a row, and they keep trying to bring up his lavish spending habits because they want to convince the jury that he's got money.
There's no convincing the jury.
That's not a crime to have money.
Or use the ominous term oligarch.
And he rightly pointed out people like George Soros or the Koch brothers can be considered oligarchs.
Anyway, the last witness that was called yesterday and then continued this morning is an accountant of Paul Manafort's long-serving tax preparation agency.
And as time inched along during the witness's testimony, nothing of particular interest seemed to be occurring.
And the accountant was mostly providing foundational testimony regarding the most basic functions of tax preparation for their company.
And prosecutors then moved to specifics and tried to attempt it to publish one of Manafort's e-file forms.
And the judge, you know, is so fed up and disgusted and amazed at all of this in the courtroom, he denied the request, complete with an actual and pronounced finger wag before shouting, No, you move it along.
And composing themselves, the prosecution then moves slowly forward before asking the same accountant again about the term financial interest.
And then the accountant began to answer the question.
Again, it was immediately cut off by Judge Ellis III, who noted that the accountant is not a noticed expert.
By the way, you're supposed to, if you're bringing in experts, they've got to be on the list of witnesses that you bring into trial.
And also, they've got to be identified as such because that information will be passed on to the jury when jury instructions come up.
And the defense then belatedly objected, prompting a sarcastic dressdown from the judge, saying, Where have you been?
You should have done this a long time ago.
Anyway, static filling the courtroom as the longest bench conference of the day ensued.
Upon the return, the accountant, the jury, learned that the issue had been deferred until Friday, if ever.
And the U.S. attorney, in other words, on Team Mueller, asked about another term of art contained in the federal tax forms, and the judge hit the roof.
And the judge who was standing at this point literally told this woman to wait and announce the court is in recess.
He's so pissed off about what's going on here, and I don't blame him because he knows what's going on here.
He knows that this wide mandate of Rosenstein basically, if your dog pooped on the sidewalk, they'd be able to, you know, bring it under the cover of the special counsel investigation.
And he knows it, and he's sick of it, and he sees it for what it is.
But because he has to follow the law, that's the only reason why he did it and allowed it.
Oh, and then we got this bigoted New York Times editorial writer, apparently also hated cops and wanted to see more men killed.
Wonder how long it's going to be to the New York Times fires this person.
By the way, the president wants to create an Arab NATO against Iran.
Iran needs, that's already happening.
You got this alliance with Jordan and Egypt and the Saudis and the Israelis and America and the Emirates.
It's all happening.
But I think the big news of the day is the president now has literally 29% approval rating with African Americans.
And I guess that might be a little bit connected to the fact that we now have record low unemployment in the Hispanic community, African-American community, Asian American community, and women in the workforce in 14 states.
Pretty amazing times we're living in.
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We have an important interview with the chairman of the House Intel Committee.
That's Devin Nunes.
That's coming up.
All right, as we continue, Sean Hannity Show.
When we come back, we have the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes, is going to join us.
A lot of rumblings, a lot of rumors, a lot of my sources now telling me that next week could be bigger than as it relates to the FISA warrant than what we already know as it relates to the applications to spy on an opposition party candidacy in the lead up to the 2016 election.
So we'll check in with him when we get back.
Also, we start our Made in America series and we'll look at the pollsters, John McLaughlin, Doug Schoen, all coming up on this Friday edition.
There is a national security reason to make sure that the American public sees this in its entirety because this is a phony FISA.
Okay, the Department of Justice and the FBI put something together that is completely fraudulent in order to spy on an American citizen.
All right, our two Sean Hannity show, 800-941-Sean is on number.
Shocked by what we see in the FISA warrants if they're unredacted and that these are phony FISA warrants.
In other words, that this was all based on a fraud.
Now, we knew to a certain extent that was the case with the Nunes memo and the Grassley Graham memos.
The bulk of information was the Clinton unverified, uncorroborated Russian phony dossier put together by Christopher Steele.
Even he, in an interrogatory in Great Britain, said, you know, maybe it's 50-50.
It's raw intelligence, but it did serve for the basis to spy on an American citizen associated with an opposition party candidacy in the 2016 election.
And the chairman of the House Intel Committee, Devin Nunes, joins us now.
How are you?
Good, Sean.
Who is that guy?
He sounded pretty good.
You know, I am hearing that if America sees the redacted 19 pages corroborated apparently by emails, that it will shock the conscience and soul of the country, and it will prove that this was a great conspiracy to spy on Americans with false information that they knew was false.
Am I wrong?
So let me just walk where we're at, right?
So we said for months that the dossier was used, the Clinton paid for dirt was used to get a FISA warrant on an American citizen and effectively be able to go back and get information on the Trump campaign and the members.
So we had to fight the mainstream media for that for months and months and months.
And finally, luckily, the FISA, part of it was declassified.
Now, you've heard Jim Comey, James Comey, former FBI director, say several times when he was on his book tour that Nunes was wrong or didn't say my name, but he effectively said, no, no, no, the dossier only made up a part of it, and it was actually a mosaic.
And what we're trying to get to is that, yeah, okay, Comey, there was a mosaic there, even though everybody knows all you have to do is read through that FISA.
They unclassified FISA and the three renewals.
You can see that clearly they spattered the dossier all throughout to build the story to the judge that the DOT and the Girls.
Andrew McCabe said that without the dossier, there is no FISA warrant.
That is correct.
Under oath, that's what Andy McCabe said.
And clearly, from Mr. Gowdy and Mr. Radcliffe and those guys who have done this type of work in the past and our investigators, they've been shocked at this FISA from the beginning when we first laid eyes onto it because of just the fact that you would use unverified information in the first place.
Now, but let's just get past that.
Let's just say, okay, that if you believe like some people on the media are trying to say, which is, no, no, no, you actually don't have to verify it.
You just have to give the court everything that there is.
Wait a minute.
If you commit a fraud on the court or you present evidence that you don't know to be true and you're presenting it as if it is true as required by the FISA statute itself and by FBI protocol, and you purposely withhold that who paid for the document and only put a little asterisk saying it might have a political taint to it, you're not telling the court the truth.
Aren't you perpetrating a fraud upon the court?
Well, look, I believe you are.
This is why we've called this investigation about FISA abuse.
Look, I believe there was a conspiracy here to actually obfuscate that dossier and the information they put in the FISA so that they actually clouded it so that they could get this through the court.
But what's left, what's still redacted, is what Comey called the mosaic.
And that's why this is so important, because the American public deserves to know, well, what was the rest of the information?
And this should tell people a lot, Sean, why right when the FISA was released, it was leaked to the New York Times a couple weeks ago.
And what was their first messaging, the narrative that they tried to build right out of that?
This proves that Devin Nunes and the House Republicans were liars.
Well, that lasted about a whole 12 hours because I said, actually, no, just the opposite was true.
Yeah.
Yeah, because it was true.
And you also had them saying, well, the really juicy stuff, not only were Nunes and the Republicans lying, the real juicy stuff is in the redacted part.
Well, then we actually showed a letter.
Well, wait a second.
We actually asked President Trump to declassify this a couple months ago.
And here's the pages.
Ever since that happened, you do not see anybody in the left.
I'm talking about from the Democratic Party to the media, the hard media left, mainstream media left, to the Comey people.
They are dead silent.
They don't want those pages released.
They're hoping that this issue goes away, which is why it's so imperative that President Trump declassify at least these 20 pages.
And I'm hopeful that he will.
And the sooner he does.
I have sources, and you're not one of them, just to be very clear here.
But I have sources that have been telling me now for some time that if the 19, 20 pages are released with corroborating emails with them, that it will actually blow the entire Russian narrative out of the water and it will be done over and finished.
And I've been assured this by numerous sources.
Have I been told the truth?
Well, Sean, what I don't want to do is you never want to build expectations, okay?
Because I believe from the beginning, being that the dossier made up the bulk of that FISA and that the FBI was willing to take that information and feed it to a court, that's bad enough.
This is, I believe, equally as bad, the actions and activities that were being taken.
But, you know, it all depends on who covers it, right?
What's ultimately going to be enough for anybody who's honest and fair in the mainstream media to take this up?
You're answering your own question because they have not been fair.
They're agenda-driven.
And I'm making an argument that I think there is no, that journalism in America is dead and that they are only an extension of the Democratic Party at this point and pretty much state-run left-wing media.
But the question is, I almost shudder to think if the dossier was the bulk of the evidence and there's something far worse that they used to get the FISA application through and pass judges, it has to be fairly monumental.
I don't even know if I can render a guess at what it is.
Well, and look, and that's why I'm in this horrible position of not being able to comment on it.
I will just tell you that I. Is it worse than the FISA?
Let me ask you this.
Is it worse than the dossier itself?
I would say that it's equal.
It's equal.
It's about the same.
I mean, if you think it was bad for a political party to dig up the FISA.
Is it all for them?
Is it all for?
I mean, the only thing that I can think of that might be that bad would be that we had foreign intelligence people inside the Trump campaign.
We already know they had spies in there.
I mean, how bad is this going to get?
Well, look, it's tough for me to comment.
And I am.
I don't want you to do anything that is going to put you in a compromising position.
And, you know, just so people know that you have always been respectful of the idea of keeping your, obviously, your top security clearance secret secrets.
I'm not asking you ever to break that pledge or vow.
I would never want you to.
And obviously, Sean, all the Republicans on the intelligence committee who have been briefed on this for months and months and months, we all say that we want these pages out.
I mean, so clearly there's a reason why we want that out.
And, you know, we're the ones that are charged with overseeing this for all of the American people and the Republican, at least on the Republican side.
And I think that should carry a lot of weight.
And it ought to be enough for the president to declassify.
At the same time, because I know I'm limited on time, and I don't want to run out of time here, and I don't know if you're going to cover it on your show today, but Senator Grassley has very directly called for what are called the Bruce Orr 302s to be released.
These also need to be declassified.
Now, Bruce Orr, just for your audience, I know your audience is pretty well up to speed, and I know you are.
Bruce Orr was effectively the number two or three under the Deputy Attorney General, both Sally Yates and Rod Rosenstein.
His office was just a couple doors down.
His wife, Nellie Orr, was working for Fusion GPS, which was digging up the dirt, or basically, I don't even think they were, I don't even think they were digging anything.
I think they were just making it.
Wasn't she part of the team that was putting together the dirty dossier?
Yeah, so she was the one working for Fusion, working with Christopher Steele to compile this.
At the same time, Bruce Orr, one of the top people at the Justice Department, was secretly meeting with who Christopher Steele.
So Chuck Grassley has asked for about a dozen of these 302s, which are a number of an FBI report.
He wants them declassified.
I've seen them.
We have the Bruce Orr note.
I have been hearing rumors for a long time that these 302s were altered and changed after the fact.
Well, I think that is referring to the General Flynn 302.
I don't think that the Bruce Orr 302s were changed, but remember what we're saying here.
One of the top guys in the Department of Justice, a guy who's supposed to be in management, Christopher Steele gets fired, right?
Gets terminated.
The FBI says we're not going to use him anymore.
But actually, they were.
They actually took one of the top DOJ lawyers, and essentially he ran Steele as a source.
So Bruce Orr just took the place of Steele and was getting information from Steele and still feeding it into the FBI.
And none of this ever made it to the court.
So remember, Christopher Steele said that he was desperate that Trump not win.
That was in our memo that we released back in January.
We will stop him.
Ignored that.
We will stop him.
And Christopher Steele, on the other end, that's right.
He wanted to stop him as well.
Is there any truth to the fact that John Brennan had shared the dossier information as CIA director with Harry Reid?
You know, it is.
We have no proof of that, but I'll tell you, the timeline is very questionable, right?
Because you have, you can kind of match it up.
Brennan meets with Reed.
We have that documented.
Reed writes a letter.
You actually have Strzok and Paige discussing on texts and emails about the letter that's coming from Reed.
So, I mean, it really looks like that was kind of your classic swampy move of writing a letter.
I think that will be corroborated, and I have reason to believe that.
And there might be emails that would back that up.
All right, we got to take a break.
We'll come back more with the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes, who's agreed to stay with us.
All right, as we continue with the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes.
Let me go back to this fundamental point, though, that something is equally bad is in the 1920 pages.
I want to go back to that for one second, if I may, and ask you, because, again, I have a lot of people that I talk to every day, and we've been trying to unpeel the layers of this onion.
And they're telling me we might find out what's in these pages as early as next week.
Well, I sure hope so, Sean, because look, I don't want to be repetitive here, but if all the Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee have said that this needs to be declassified, that should carry that we're the legislative branch of government, and that should carry weight with the White House.
You already have the first part of the FISA that's been publicly released.
We're not asking for everything, but at a minimum, those roughly 20 pages.
Is that for every FISA application or just the last FISA application?
We're only asking, we're specifically asking for the very last one.
The one Ron Rosenstein signed.
That's correct.
But, you know, we're not, that's what we want out of as a minimum.
We don't have a problem if you would declassify the rest, but that needs to get out.
That's what we've asked the president.
Well, I hear it's coming, and if and I hear it's a blockbuster, so we're waiting.
I think the people have a right to know the people of this country because what we know already is so underhanded and so corrupt and such an abuse of power that I think people need to understand how deeply this went.
Let me ask you about this.
We're watching the Manafort trial, and it's about a 2005 tax case.
And as the judge in the case said, that has nothing to do with collusion or Russia even at all, or Donald Trump or the campaign at all.
But it's really designed to put the screws to Manafort so he sings or composes and they can use information to prosecute or impeach Trump.
And my question very specifically is: there is a tape of a counterpart of yours on the House Intel Committee by the name of Adam Schiff.
Have you heard this tape where he thinks he's talking to a Russian?
Listen to this.
Okay, and so Buceva met with Trump in New York at some point after the 2013 Miss Universe pageant.
Absolutely.
And she got compromising materials on Trout after their short relations.
Okay.
And what's the nature of the compromise?
Well, there were pictures of naked Trump.
Okay.
And so Putin was made aware of the availability of the compromising material?
Yes, of course.
Buzava shared those materials with Sobchak, and Sobchak shares those materials with Putin because she's a goddaughter of Putin, and Putin decided to press on Trump.
And the materials that you can provide to the committee or to the FBI, would they corroborate this allegation?
Sure, of course.
When they were in Ukraine, we got their conversation by the phone where they discussed those compromising materials.
We are ready to provide it to the FBI.
So you have recordings of both Sovchek and Buseva, where they're discussing the compromising material on Mr. Trump?
Absolutely.
All right, we're going to come back.
We'll get a response.
That was a fellow House Intel Committee member, Schiffless Schiff, literally thinking he's talking to a Russian, getting compromising information on Donald Trump, even naked pictures that Vladimir Putin had seen.
It turned out to be a total hoax.
Quick break, we'll come back.
We'll continue.
800-941 Sean is on number straight ahead.
Many of the bureaucracies here in Washington know how to wait out Congress.
They know to try to plan meetings on a Friday when they know there's not votes or on a Monday when there's not votes.
That's the time that they want to give things.
They wait.
They know that Congress is going to adjourn next week.
And so the more that they delay for no reason, we're waiting on many documents, as you know.
We're getting very slow, snail-paced cooperation that is clearly designed to wait until next week when Congress adjourns.
Now, I have news for them.
They're still going to get to come in and give depositions.
They may think they're not going to, but they're going to be coming in to give depositions throughout the summer.
And that's part of the 42 names that I sent to Chairman Gowdy and Chairman Goodlatt.
So I have every expectation that there will be many opportunities for these 42 individuals to come to Congress, even though they have tried to wait us out.
And I think they'd love to see Republicans lose.
And I say that.
I don't want to, I hate to say that, but I have to believe that the Department of Justice and FBI, the people at the leadership, they are banking on a loss by the Republicans in the fall, which is why people have to understand how important it's going to be to get out and vote in this election to ensure that the members of Congress are returned that are actively involved to ensure, because if the Democrats get control, they're going to drop all of this investigation.
Told free, our number is 800-941-Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program, apparently, along with the phony dossier, there are other materials that absolutely have been, well, that will so devastate the process in terms of corroborating the lie to the FISA court judges in the applications to get a warrant to spy on a Trump campaign associate in the lead up to the 2016 campaign.
We're hearing rumors all over the place that this information, corroborated by emails, could be coming out as early as next week.
And if it does, I am told it will blow a lot of this Russia-Russia-Russia lie narrative out of the water.
And it will cause America to take a deep look at whether or not we have equal justice under the law, whether or not the warrant system for FISA was abused at a level we've never seen before.
And joining us to talk and discuss about all this is the House Intel Committee Chairman Devin Nunes.
Mr. Chairman, before the break, I played you a phone conversation of a colleague of yours.
He's on TV an awful lot, Adam Schiff, and he's not exactly been kind to you in public comments.
And he is talking to somebody he believes to be a Russian that has compromising materials on Donald Trump, including naked pictures that even Vladimir Putin had seen.
It turns out that the whole that he was totally hoaxed in this call, but the whole call sounds to me an awful lot like the collusion that Robert Mueller is supposed to be getting to the bottom to up bottom of.
Yeah, bingo.
So it's a typical double standard, right?
So they created a whole investigation made out of a whole cloth that somehow Donald Trump was colluding with Russia using a dossier that was actually generated from Russians that the Clinton campaign paid for.
So they should start there, investigate the Clinton campaign on getting information and compromise from the Russians.
And then they ought to turn around.
If you look at what the Democrats on our committee have done and probably in the Senate also, they were also reaching out to Russians to get dirt on Trump.
I mean, it's just nonsense.
I mean, look, collusion, you know, none of this is a crime, getting dirt on your political opponents.
I mean, it happens all the time.
But the whole idea that they'd investigate the Trump campaign for supposedly being in bed with Russians when the reality was they were.
And it kind of fits.
But they were in two different ways.
I mean, that phone call, doesn't that just capture for all the discussion and talk and media about a meeting that took place at Trump Tower about Russian adoption had nothing to do with any information being transferred about Hillary Clinton, and it's been made such a big deal of.
And then we've got Adam Schiff on the committee, you know, thinking that he's getting dirt directly from Russia about Donald Trump, and he's salivating at the thought of it.
What is the difference?
Well, whatever the left accuses you of doing, I have a rule.
That's what they're doing.
So the fact that they were accusing the Trump campaign and feeding to the FBI that Trump was doing something wrong with the Russians, the reality was they were.
They were doing something with the Russians.
They were attempting to get information from the Russians.
Well, they did get information from the Russians.
It was fake and phony.
But also, you mentioned this.
Not enough has been paid attention to this Trump Tower meeting.
And everybody, the media continues to gloss over this.
Let's not forget, you know, did Trump or Trump, I forget it was Donald Jr., did he agree to have a meeting to try to get information on Hillary Clinton?
Yeah.
Well, guess what?
Not a crime.
It's not a crime at all.
It happens all the time.
Isn't that what Adam Schiff is doing?
But it's what Adam Schiff is doing if you listen to the call you displayed.
But people are forgetting this major point about this, Sean.
The person that met in the Trump Tower, this Russian lawyer who was there to lobby on behalf to get rid of the Magnitsky Act, is a client of who?
Fusion GPS.
Fusion GPS working for Russians.
And didn't they meet with this woman both before and after the meeting at Trump Tower?
Before and after.
And I'll tell you, they've denied that they ever talked of that.
And it's talking about Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS said, oh, they didn't know nothing about it.
They didn't know anything about it.
Do you believe them?
Does anybody actually believe that?
I don't.
I mean, it's impossible.
I mean, one of their clients, one of their Russian clients is meeting the very same day before and after.
They have a meeting before and after.
And we're supposed to believe that there was no just by accident.
Yeah.
Well, let me ask you.
Look, this is the problem.
This is where the investigation should be, and this is why we have such a hard time with this, why there needs to either be a second special counsel or somebody investigating this.
If we actually had all the tools of the FBI, you would quickly get to the bottom of who was Fusion GPS working for, who was paying Fusion GPS.
Well, we already know.
The money was paid for by Hillary.
It was funneled through the law firm Perkins Cooey.
Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steele.
He used Russian contacts.
That created the dossier.
That was spread as gospel truth.
And it was all done to misinform the American people and influence an election.
It was full with Russian lies, which is ironic considering what's been going on as it relates to the Trump campaign.
And even Steele himself in an interrogatory in Great Britain said that it was raw intelligence, maybe 50-50, that it would ever be true.
But yet they were disseminating it.
And we learned in the Washington, either the Free Beacon or the Times in the last week that, in fact, Christopher Steele was meeting regularly with the top people in the Clinton campaign who had paid for all of this.
Right, right.
And that's what's going to continue to this is going to continue to unravel.
And that's the sad part about it is that this really needs to be investigated.
I mean, you clearly had one campaign that was colluding with Russians.
Likely these Russians that they were getting this information from probably are tied back to oligarchs that have ties back to the FSB.
I mean, if you want to get to the heart of Russian collusion and how they were, I mean, what if this really was the dirt on Trump actually was created and crafted by the FSB?
You know, the most exculpatory evidence, though, when you think about it, comes directly from Comey's mouth when he says, well, Trump said to me that, well, I wasn't involved with anything Russia, but if anyone around me was, we need to look into that.
I got to let you go.
You've been very generous with your time.
Is there a good chance we might learn about all this stuff next week?
It's beginning to percolate from a lot of my sources in D.C.
Well, like I said, there's all the reason in the world to declassify these 20 pages, and there's all the reason in the world also to declassify the Bruce Orr 302s.
The sooner it's done, the better.
The more transparency, the better for the American people.
All right, you've been amazing in all of this, and I know you've taken a lot of heat for it.
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, we appreciate your time.
We're starting a new segment on the program today.
It's our Made in America series, and we have with us Jamie Oberwager, who is a founder and owner of a great company that is based here in the States, and they make all these healthy snacks, of which I tried some this week.
And Jamie is an entrepreneur, widely successful in a short amount of time, a little over two years.
And Jamie, welcome to the program.
Thanks for being with us.
Thank you so much.
Well, let's talk about, I mean, you have a product that is called Lucky Bar, and there's different, you know, I guess it's a mom-to-go secret weapon that has the protein of two eggs in it, and it's delicious and it's healthy.
Explain.
Thank you so much.
Lucky Bars were derived from my youngest child who really struggled with mealtime, period.
And it wasn't because we didn't try to give him other foods.
He just had such an aversion to most foods.
He would put his hands over his mouth and make gagging sounds and wipe his tongue.
He needed protein desperately.
So that came up with these.
Well, let me tell you something.
So Linda's been eating them all week.
Linda's in love with your Lucky Bar.
I don't know if I like the way you said that.
You made me sound like a little piggy there.
No, no, no.
You've been eating them all week.
As a good mother, I try everything before my son eats it.
So it was my due diligence.
Well, but the truth is, I mean, it's great that it's made in America.
Jamie, I love that.
And kids do need the nutrition.
And, you know, they don't need my fuck, my son, when he was young, only ate pasta with butter.
That's it.
Aha, that's right.
We call those empty belly fillers.
And kids love the empty belly fillers, the plain pasta, the chips.
And, you know.
By the way, I love pasta with butter, but go ahead.
But as parents, you know, we want to give them the taste and the textures that they're familiar with, but we want to eliminate that quote-unquote bad stuff that we would prefer to keep off their plate.
And so that's part of what makes Lucky Bar so important.
How many, in two years you've built this product?
And Lucky Bars have more protein than two large eggs in every kid-sized bar.
It's high in protein, low in sugar, and it tastes great.
Although I would know more if I had some because Linda stole them all.
Wait, can I just say one thing?
I know that you hate when I interrupt you, Sean, but I have to say, and you stole all of them.
Go ahead.
So I gave one to my son, who is a super picky eater.
He just turned three.
And he loved them.
First of all, he's in love with the packaging.
It's easy for him to open.
And then we had a sales guy on the floor today who brought his three-year-old to work.
And he sat in my office and he ate a whole bar while watching cartoons in my office this morning.
And I just thought, man, these things are really great.
Can I just say something?
Listen, if Linda's son, Liam, likes it, that's probably the best sign.
It's a victory lap for sure.
But imagine Linda at three.
That's what Liam is.
Very nice, Sean.
Very nice.
He even has the accent already.
No, he doesn't, not yet.
First of all.
No, but I mean, so two years, how many have you gone from selling in a two-year period of time?
It went from what to what?
Well, it went from zero to now.
We're actually sold in over 2,000 retail locations all across America, as well as online.
And our goal is to continue to be number one in mom's mind when she's looking for fun, delicious, nutritious food for her family.
All right, we've got to take a break.
We'll come back more with our Made in America series.
Jamie Oberwager is with us.
We'll get more on the other side, 800-941-Sean, our toll-free telephone number.
As we continue with Jamie Oberwaker as part of our Made in America series, how many people do you employ now?
Oh, well, we have a team, actually, at the bakery, as well as a small business team.
But we are very much in support of creating jobs all across America to enable the distribution and the continuation of putting Lucky Bar into the hand and bellies of kids everywhere.
So in other words, like instead of grabbing chips and candy bars and all the crap that we usually eat, you basically have designed a nutritious, protein-filled, low-sugar product that kids love to eat in different flavors.
And it's just taken the market by storm.
And it's probably hard to add because you have drivers that transport it.
You have factories that make it.
You have people that package it.
You have business people as well.
So I'm sure it's hard to calculate, but you've created a lot of jobs in the process.
And now 2,000 locations around the country and you also sell it online, right?
I mean, did you ever think it would get this big?
Well, you know what?
I always had faith that with hard work, despite the risk of going out on my own, that I was being led down the right path to do that and help my child and children of other families all across America.
So I had faith that this would happen.
You know, the truth of the matter is, is that kids have their own tastes and preferences and nutritional needs.
And we like to celebrate the way they're different from adults, not just in their palate, but even the way they eat.
Got to run here, but I actually did try one of them and it was amazing.
And I think it's such a great idea.
And a lot of, you know, 30% of kids are like picky eaters.
And I was one of them as a kid.
My son was.
My daughter was not.
But now he eats healthier than everybody I know.
So it's luckybar.com is the website.
And it's, you know, in 2,000 locations around the country.
It's such a great success story, and it's made in America.
It's called Lucky Bar, the Nutritional Alternative for Your Kids.
And good job.
We're really proud of you.
And thanks for joining us, Jamie.
Thank you so much for having me.
Thank you, Jamie.
LuckyBar.com.
Why did you steal every one of them?
You stole them all.
I'm hungry.
You don't give us lunch break.
I buy your lunch every single freaking day.
But I have no time to build it.
Well, you buy gross stuff anyway.
It's orange or puke green or whatever you eat.
It's disgusting.
I know I eat lucky bars.
Well, at least it's a normal food for once.
Everybody looks at your food and says, that's so disgusting.
What are you eating?
No, you look at my food and say it's so disgusting.
Everyone else just says have a nice lunch.
No, everybody agrees with me, but they're intimidated by you, and I'm not.
There's a big difference.
Yeah, right.
That's a vicious rumor.
Republicans just passed the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country.
And the Democrats want to lift them way up.
Remember that.
When you go to vote, they want to end your tax cuts and they want to lift it up so they can waste your money on a lot of nonsense.
You've heard this, but I'm going to say it over and over because I'm really proud of it.
Remember, I said, what do you have to lose?
What do you have to lose?
African American, so many others.
I said, what do you have to lose?
You have high crime rates.
You have horrible education.
You have this.
I went through a list of 10.
That's what happened.
African American, Hispanic, Asian.
You have the lowest level of unemployment in the history of our country.
How does somebody fight that, right?
How does somebody fight that?
All right, that was the president last night in Pennsylvania.
Another of his rallies.
In this case, Joe Barletta, who is running for the U.S. Senate in that state, which is a seat that could be won 95 days now from the most important midterms in our lifetime.
And joining us now, Polster John McLaughlin.
He is with and the founder of McLaughlin and Associates.
Doug Schoen, pollster, author, political analyst, Fox News.
Thank you both for being with us.
Let's start with you, John McLaughlin.
It seems that, well, the president is surging.
The economic news has been great for the country.
The president keeping his promises on foreign policy.
North Korea, the bodies of the fallen back from the Korean War this week.
No missiles fired over Japan.
Seems like negotiations are ongoing in a successful way, or hostages are home.
The Iranian deal, we're out of that.
And also, Jerusalem is now the capital of Israel.
And the question is, when you look at these polls, some people still are predicting a blue wave, but it's pretty much 50-50 in terms of which way this midterm election is going to go.
What do you think?
Well, I think you're right because the president, he's not surging as much as grinding up.
There's a perpetual improvement from last year because you just listed a whole bunch of substantive accomplishments that Donald Trump has done.
I mean, most Americans, 51-40, they tell us this month that the economy is doing better and they expect it to stay better.
They feel more secure.
They give them high marks on the economy.
Even the CBS polls show that.
So it's bringing the Republicans up.
Last month, we had them tied on the generic ballot with the Democrats 44-44.
This month, the end of July, we had polled after the immigration issue, and we'd lost four points, but that's still in range to hold the House.
Would it be a net plus or a net negative for the president to take a stand on his key promise that he made in 2016, which is to build a border wall and hold out for the money before the election?
It's a net plus.
And the Democrats, the trick is with how did the last time the Schumer shutdown hurt them?
Because they basically said, give us amnesty or we're not going to pay the military.
So that was a big mistake.
That backfired on the Democrats.
And since then, the Democrat numbers, the blue wave has disappeared because, you know, they're against, they're for abolishing ICE.
They're for open borders.
So the whole, the whole thing.
So what is the strategy, though?
Does the president hold out on any spending until the wall is funded or what?
Well, I think the president first has to go to the Senate.
The House isn't as much of a problem as the Senate.
The House will vote on things and then it dies in the Senate.
McConnell doesn't bring things up unless he has.
Well, McConnell wants to do it after the election.
Right.
No, they need to do it now.
They need to, as you advise the president, as he mentioned in one of his rallies, they need to do it now and they need to have a sharp contrast with the Democrats and the US.
See, I think you lose all leverage, number one, and I think it's a 75-25 issue to secure the borders.
All right, let's get Doug Shoan's take on it.
Doug, first about the blue wave.
Is there any such blue wave?
Number two, what about the president taking a stand to fund border security?
Well, I don't think there's at this point a blue wave.
I think that there is the possibility, and I underscore possibility of the Democrats winning the House.
But I think it's going to be touch and go.
I think it's about a 50-50 proposition.
Typically, the out party does best in a midterm, and with 43 Republican seats open or an incumbent not running, that works to the Democrats' advantage.
And I would say very simply, Sean, when you have the economy roaring as it is, if you make the election about the wall, you're hurting yourself.
I would, if I was advising the president, which as you know, I'm not, but if I was, I would say, talk the economy, do not talk about the wall, do not threaten to shut down the government in a month before the election over the wall.
It might help you with your base.
It's not going to help you win the midterms.
So you guys are differing on that.
Why wouldn't it help?
I've always believed that if Republicans take a stand and they stand on their principles and they fight for what they said they would do, that they would benefit politically.
I've got to believe that the Democrats that want to eliminate ICE and want open borders, there's a clear compare-contrast election in that.
And I don't think the American people are with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and others.
The best Democrats are those who are saying no.
Because last month in June, we had the Republicans tied on a generic ballot among likely voters at 44.
Well, on July 25th, after the immigration fight, where they didn't get anything done, they fell four points.
And the difference is the midterm election, when you're looking at likely voters, there's 63 million people who voted for President Trump in November 2016 out of the total 139 million who showed up, which is a record in 2016.
In the typical midterm, you only get 80, 90 million voters show up.
How many of those 63 million Trump voters didn't vote in 2014?
Will they come back out?
If you don't make good on your efforts to secure America, secure our borders, build the wall, reform chain and get rid of the chain migration, the diversity lottery, these other things that let terrorists into the country.
If you don't do those things, those people may stay home and we lose Senate seats instead of picking them up and we could lose the House.
You have to get them motivated, come back out.
The whole election in November is about bringing Trump voters back out.
And he's not on the ballot.
The Republicans need to push his agenda because if they don't push his agenda, they'll sit home and they won't come out in November.
That makes perfect sense to me.
And, Doug, look, this is the agenda of the Democrats right now.
They're not saying it.
They've asked all their members to stop saying it, but they want to impeach the president.
Nancy Pelosi, Elizabeth Warren have said they want to rescind the tax cuts because they want their crumbs back.
They want open borders, eliminate ICE, keep Obamacare, and they want these investigations to end.
I don't see that as a particularly inspiring vision for the people of this country.
It isn't, and that's why the public message is one word, change.
And that's what's going on.
That's why the Democrats are, at least in the polls I'm seeing, have a slight lead in the generic vote.
And we'll get a good sense tomorrow, John, in the midterm and I'm sorry, the special election in Ohio, which is a tie if the Democrats win that with a moderate to conservative candidate in O'Connor.
That's a huge, huge step in the right direction.
John?
Well, I've said I've been preaching for over a year now that these special elections have been lost when they've been since, you know, like Pennsylvania 18.
It's because of missing Trump voters.
The Democrats put up somebody like Connor Lamb, who says he's pro-life, says he's pro-gum, but he'll vote with the Democrats and Pelosi.
But guess what?
And the president goes out there and he campaigns and he robocalls and they get the message out that Trump's endorsed the Republican, but they barely lost because 102,000 Trump voters in that district stayed home while only 60,000 Clinton voters stayed home.
So now what you have to do is you have to push this, whether it's immigration, taxes, even term limits.
Let's talk about term limits.
The president ran on it.
Let's get it.
How much is this midterm about President Trump, though, and the desire of the Democrats to remove him?
By the way, it's backfiring on him because these impeachment calls are making Republicans come out and vote so that that's why you're seeing Republican numbers come back.
Doug's probably seeing the same thing.
Yeah, I was going to say, if I could talk to Tom Styre, I would have two words for him.
Shut up.
I'm quite serious.
Yeah, they're going to really listen to you, Doug.
You've been right up there at the top of the Democratic Party's love list now for years as you've been telling them they're going in the wrong direction.
Soon, as long as I'm on your love list, I'm in good company, especially with you and John.
So happy to do it.
And I may be a lonely man in the wilderness.
Well, let me ask you as a Democrat, is the country better off now that Trump's been president?
I would tell you this.
And I've said it on five.
By the way, he hates answering this question because we all know the answer is obvious economically and on foreign policy.
And the other ways is better off.
But what bothers me is that he's polarized and divided where he did not need to.
And to me, leadership is about bringing people together.
The economic news is undeniably good, but I disagree with his Russia policy.
I didn't like what he did in Helsinki.
It's a clear area of difference for me and a lot of hawkish snoopers.
And who's been tougher on Russia, Obama or Trump?
It's not even close, Trump.
It's not a competition, Sean.
They're both.
Oh, wait a minute.
Crimea and Ukraine didn't happen under Trump.
I mean, the red line in Syria didn't happen under Trump.
There weren't sanctions.
Now we have the biggest sanctions we've ever put on Russia.
And the president is even pushing to advance energy trade with Western Europe, which would bankrupt Russia.
Sean, you have never heard me defend Obama.
I'm not going to do it.
Now, his policies on foreign policy and on energy were bad.
There is more Trump to do.
I wish he sounded more like John Bolton.
I wish he sounded more like Mike Pompeo.
I wish he sounded more like Dan Cook.
But it's never, but the person that won is not that.
He's not the establishment figure.
I think one of the reasons his polls have gone up besides keeping his promises, John McLaughlin, is I think people now are used to the rhythm of Trump, and that is that he's not going to all of a sudden turn into a conventional establishment political figure, and he's going to be himself.
And that means he's going to call out people he disagrees with, and he's going to forcefully fight for his agenda, and he's going to speak his mind about what he believes is a corrupt witch hunt, which I agree with, with Robert Mueller.
And I think all of that endears him to not only the base, but the country now is getting used to it.
And they're like, all right, that's just the president fighting back, which he does all the time.
And he fights for us.
We're in an age of reality TV, and he had the highest-rated reality TV show on.
And people kind of expect this.
But, you know, one point that Doug talked about is change.
You know, we asked on July 25th, we asked, do you want to continue the policies of Barack Obama?
Do you want to change and move in a different direction?
And 48 to 43, all voters said they wanted to change.
And the undecided said they want to change 44 to 25.
The undecided for Congress.
So the problem is the Republican establishment that's holding up the swamp needs to let the president start making more change.
And that's the big difference for November.
Sean, and John is right, if I can quickly make a quick point here.
It's not Trump they're voting against now, though some are certainly on the far left.
They're voting against a corrupt Republican establishment who over and over again has failed to get anything done.
Yeah, but you know what?
In spite of them, the president, he's gotten things done.
And he's got the tax cuts passed, and we see the benefits to the economy.
He's gotten rid of burdensome regulation.
He has taken his bold steps on foreign policy.
And now we're literally set up on a T for energy independence.
And he's pushing hard on border security.
He just goes down the list.
And that is, for a lot of people, refreshing because, yeah, I think both parties are weak and feckless and spineless and lacking vision.
We'll take a break.
We'll come back more with John McLaughlin, Doug Schoen on the other side.
And as we continue, Sean Hannity Show 800-941 Sean, our number.
We're 95 days away from the most important midterm elections in our life.
What would be the best plan of action for the president and for members of Congress in terms of do they embrace the president?
Do they embrace his agenda?
Do they want him to go campaign for him?
Because really, this is going to come down to about 50 House races.
I'm not at all really worried about the Senate.
I think Republicans will probably have a number of pickups.
John McLaughlin.
They need to stand on his record of accomplishment.
And the best thing to win November would be if the president were to call up Mitch McConnell and call up Paul Ryan and say, here's a series of issues I want you to vote on before November.
Vote on work fair.
Vote on my plan for paid parental leave.
Vote on our plan to make the tax cuts permanent.
Vote on our plan to fix health care and give them a series of issues that they have to support the president and say, I want you to vote on this in September and October.
And that would create a clear contrast with the Democrats.
Emphasize the president's accomplishments, whether it's the economy or national security.
And of course, immigration should be on that list.
And give them a list of six, seven things and say, I want votes on these.
The backbenchers in the Senate and the House on the Republican side would be ecstatic.
The Democrats would be afraid because there'd be a spotlight put on them.
All right, Doug, we'll give you the last word.
A simple recommendation to the Republicans.
Do for individuals what the president and the Senate and House did for corporations.
Propose a middle-class tax cut.
That singly could bring the Republicans a level of success that even the intelligent approach John McLaughlin just outlined and you've outlined, Sean, you go for a tax cut for individuals, then you got something that the election can be a referendum on that you can really defy the odds.
Other than that, I think the Democrats win the House, and I think you're right, Sean.
The Republicans will hold the Senate.
I think the Republicans have a very good chance of holding the House, but they've got to get out there and fight the next 95 days and be strategic like John McLaughlin is suggesting.
Thank you both for being with us.
When we come back Friday, Florida, Georgia Line and Zach Brown concert series will explain and your calls straight ahead.
All right, let's get to our busy phones as we say hi to Ellen is in Arkansas.
Ellen, happy Friday.
Glad you're with us.
And thanks for checking in.
Well, thanks for that Zach Brown Florida, Georgia Line series.
Sean, that was fun to listen to.
It is fun to listen to, right?
It puts you in a good mood for the weekend.
It did.
My husband had that chicken fried song on his phone as my raintone for a while.
Wow.
Hey, your example of honoring others is so vital to our country right now, Sean.
I really appreciate how you deflect praise.
And it just comes from a heart of humility.
You're just really choosing to be known for who you really are, nothing more and nothing less.
And I believe that it builds unity within our country, which is so desperately lacking at the present.
So thank you for your voice.
Well, you're very nice.
You've provided us over the years.
The facts you've reported, they've been indispensable.
You fight for our Democratic Republic.
Thanks.
Next week is going to be a blockbuster week.
That's all I can really say at this point.
You know, I say this, and these are these are not words.
Everybody is in the service industry in one way or the other.
The fact that whatever I'm doing in the public eye doesn't make it any different from what people do and don't get, you know, consideration or praise or acknowledgement for.
But if you really look at it that we're all spokes in a wheel, we live in the greatest country God gave man.
And the idea is that we want to preserve, protect, and defend the greatest country God gave man for future generations, then we're really kind of all on the same team.
Unfortunately, there are people that think they know better than us, that they're smarter than us.
They were smarter than us in 2016, and they've took it upon themselves to do things that they should never have never have done.
And all of this, I think, is going to come to a head next week.
I'm pretty confident it's going to be a pretty revealing week next week if you stay tuned.
Exciting.
I will stay tuned.
Yeah, I agree that those who are seeking for globalization want to divide us.
It's like they want to make the divided states of America, because they know that we're going to fall if we're divided.
But what's the rest of that thing is united we stand.
And yeah, there are going in.
That campaign, I hashtag resist, I think we need to defend that or come against that with our hashtag serve campaign.
I feel like you, Donald Trump, and many others are serving to preserve unify.
The sad reality is there are people that want to destroy this president, never wanted him to win, did illegal things to prevent him from winning, and he won anyway.
And as a result, we see the benefits now of 18 months of a Trump presidency, and they never give him credit, but I don't even think he wants the credit, to be honest.
I just think he's happy that things have turned around.
I was watching him closely last night in Pennsylvania in his rally, and I think he's just happy that things are turning around.
All right, Ellen, thank you.
Appreciate it.
Bessie is in Illinois.
Bessie, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, I wanted to talk about Gregory Craig and his possible indictment.
Well, I saw his name was sent up by Mueller and company to the Southern District of New York, which I don't think any American would ever want.
No, I think he's trying to detour to come on like he's apolitical because he's dealt with him before.
He interviewed Mueller's FBI, interviewed Obama in the criminal case of the selling of his Senate seat.
Gregory Craig represented him.
He gave him an internal investigation report that Craig wrote before the interview, which was contradicted by prosecution witness testimony two years later.
And even after this, now this all happened 10 and 8 years ago.
We still haven't seen Obama's FBI 302s.
Not even the defense attorneys have seen them.
Listen, at some point here, and I don't know when, I think the president is going to take the advice of many people, many experts, and just allow the public to see a lot of the information that I think blows all of this narrative, everything about Mueller, everything about Russia, everything about FISA out of the water.
But we pretty much know the story, but the smoking guns have yet to come out.
And I think one of them is coming out next week.
And what that has to do.
If you got Obama's FBI 302s and you compared it to Gregory Craig's internal investigation report and the testimony of Tom Bailinoff, none of it matched up.
How do you know so much about this?
I'm interested.
There was when Brad Blagojevich was on trial, it was a big to-do in Illinois.
The Sun-Times and the Chicago Tribune put out live blogs where you could interact.
And I went to the court.
Wow.
Listen, I saw Blagoyevich's name being raised in the press about a possible pardon by the president.
It'll be interesting to see.
Listen, I interviewed Anna Marie Johnson this week, and what a lovely woman.
And it took my breath away.
And it was such an honor to get to meet her and her family and her attorney.
And we do need criminal justice reform.
I will say that.
A grandmother, first offense, never before, been in trouble.
One drug offense should not be a life sentence for somebody.
Although I think we've got to be very tough, especially on these drug dealers that are pushing these opioids onto our kids and creating addiction that is lifelong and leading to death.
But anyway, I appreciate it, Bessie.
Thank you.
George in Florida wants to defend Jimmy Acosta.
What's up, George in Florida?
How are you?
Hey, Sean.
Thanks.
Hey, McCall.
I just want you to, I'm going to offend him, and he is a victim of his circumstances, because What do you mean, why is he a victim?
Why is he not responsible for his own disgraceful behavior?
Okay, let me explain.
Would you be upset with a cat backed into a corner by a toddler that strikes out and scratches a child on the hand?
Okay, so who's the cat in this particular case?
Acasas, because you've backed him into Trump and you have backed him into the corner.
You've been saying for years that these journalists are part of the Democratic arm of the Democratic Party.
And their policies have maybe caused maybe a short-term relief, but in the long term, their policies have caused debilitating dependency on people.
Irreparable harm for families.
So here comes a president who now jobs reports are just out and all the economy is going.
And these journalists who have been in this system for the last 30 to 40 years are realizing that they failed in their job in the fourth arm of our government.
You're assuming something here that I don't think is true.
I don't think they are acknowledging anything.
I don't think they recognize at all their abusive bias.
They don't recognize that the cost of the people.
I think they think they're the super patriots, sort of like Peter Strzzok.
I think they think they're better than all of us.
Well, it's something what I call the they're caught in the matrix of the Ted Koppel effect.
And you've been caught in this too.
A couple of months ago, you went on the Ted Koppel show interview, correct?
You remember the Ted Koppel?
Yeah, when I gave him an hour's worth of interview, he used 60 seconds that benefited him.
Correct.
And how did you feel when you came back?
I remember you talking about how he turned.
The problem is that I expect it.
I expected a little more from him because I'd known him over the years, but it didn't surprise me, nor did it bother me.
And it gave me an opportunity to tell people what edited fake news is like.
But you have a platform.
I do.
You have.
Right.
But what happened to the other people, other people who don't have platforms?
They get the crap kicked out of them and they have nothing.
They have no recourse to defend themselves in most cases.
And that's why Fox News and the conservative movement have, and why Donald Trump is the answer for justice, what we've been looking for.
Listen, you know, we celebrated this week Russia's 30th anniversary in syndication.
And as I said on radio and TV, I can't imagine what the country would be like without 30 years of rush as almost like an oasis for people that are looking for truth, for a different take on the news, for conservative thought, principles, and ideas.
So, but I hear what you're saying.
Look, I don't think they are in touch with themselves at all.
I think they think they're superior to us and that we're a bunch of smelly Walmart people that cling to our God gun Bibles religion and that we're irredeemably deplorable.
I think that's they've revealed it.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
Looks like a big tick tock.
I'd say 95% now next week as it relates to more information in the FISA warrants that are just devastating for those that abuse power, those involved in corruption, those that are involved in lying to FISA court judges, those that are at the heart of the abuse of power, deep state corruption that has been exposed.
I told you, we're only at about 15%.
I mean, this might take us to 20.
All right, so we'll have all of that coming up next week.
And when we get back on Monday, by the way, it will be 92 days till election day, the most important midterm in our life.
All right, have a great weekend.
We'll see you Monday.
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