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Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
My name is Rose.
Sean is out today, and I am Rose of Rose Unplugged.
And it's always an honor, of course, to sit in for Sean Hannity and to work with his great staff, Lauren and Ethan today.
And here with me in Pittsburgh is my producer Greg Maxwell.
And a shout out to my friend Frank Iorio, who was gracious enough to offer me the use of his studios here at AM 1320 WJAS in Pittsburgh.
And Daryl, Darrell has been on call constantly since we got here to the studios.
So thanks to all of you.
I am looking forward to talking with you.
Sean, Sean's audience is just so awesome.
I enjoy you so much.
And then after the show, we we stay in touch with through email and social media.
My social media, by the way, is Twitter at Rose underscore unplugged and Facebook is Rose Unplugged.
Now you know that this week we're celebrating Independence Day, and we celebrate really that spirit that that gave birth to this country.
And it's a spirit that still moves among us, but but not among all of us.
America is more than a place.
It's an idea.
And that genius comes not from a ruling class, but from the average human being who just has a dream.
And the founders understood that the only way to unleash the power of individuals was to let them be free.
And in that genius, they understood that the solution to the human condition was liberty, protected by the rule of law.
And it's interesting that we should be celebrating this at this moment, considering all that's going on.
What made America great, what made America America was this understanding of the human condition and how it's so desired liberty.
It wasn't just the Rocky Mountains or the fruited plains, and it's not just our beautiful lakes or rivers or windswept shores.
It's an idea.
And once that idea is lost, America will be lost.
Because all that's necessary to make America great again is to never forget what made us great in the first place.
And simply, that is liberty.
And we only have to look at the politics and academia and media and law to see that the American idea has been gradually fading from our memories.
But it's time to rescue that idea, to preserve that idea of liberty.
We make America great again by remembering who made us great in the first place.
And it was just men and women like you and I. Men and women with a vision, a vision to create this fortress, a mighty fortress against the tyranny of the state.
And what I find interesting is that those men and women knew that while they were making America great, they might never reap the benefits of their sacrifices, of their hard work, of their courage.
What they did, think about it.
What they did, they did for a people they would never know.
They did it for you and I. They did this, never expecting to experience the fullness of their actions.
They forged this America with courage and commitment.
Now we must make every effort to keep America great.
And with that same Spirit and with the same kind of leadership that's unafraid to take unpopular stands like Donald Trump.
Our founding fathers are responsible for making a great America.
And they certainly didn't take the easy way.
And I'm going to say something.
Neither has this president.
He, like them, is committed to freedom.
So yeah, this Wednesday we celebrate the anniversary of our freedom and the declaration that cemented the fate of this country.
And it was just last month that was the 230th anniversary of the ratification of our Constitution.
An effort that began a year earlier in 1787.
During that time, it was at the end of those deliberations at the State House in Philadelphia, which was, by the way, the same location of the signing of the Declaration of Independence just 11 years earlier.
There were 55 delegates that had been meeting and deliberating over the course of four months.
Their efforts were to frame a constitution for a federal republic.
I know everybody remembers the story.
When Benjamin Franklin left Independence Hall, when the Constitutional Convention had finally come to an end in June of 1787, that woman that stopped him to ask the question, we all know, right?
Well, Doctor, what have we got?
A republic or a monarchy.
And you know his response.
It was a republic if you can keep it.
And we must keep it.
By the way, you know, it was Benjamin Franklin that said about freedom that it wasn't a gift that was bestowed upon us by other men, but it was a right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature.
So now the Constitution, which descends from the Declaration of Independence that we're going to celebrate this Wednesday.
It has life to it.
It is this very thing, this constitution, which really is or would have been at a greater stake today.
And that's why we're so fortunate that it was Donald Trump and not Hillary Clinton that won the election.
You know, lately, a lot of people have been writing about the Never Trumpers.
You remember that?
Hashtag Never Trump.
Remember those people?
Think about what they tried to do.
You know that they tried to prevent the only chance, the only chance of a Supreme Court that would interpret the law as written and interpret the Constitution as written, not as they wished it to be.
Those never Trumpers no longer have any currency.
They don't.
They've lost their credibility.
Because you know what?
One of the things that happened was that they failed to see, they really don't understand, they didn't understand that that road to just about everything that they had been preaching for for the last 50 years, that road went right through Trump Tower.
They didn't see it.
They wanted lower taxes, fewer regulations.
Trump did it.
You know, I think it was the Heritage Foundation had this list of things that they wanted to see done.
I think he fulfilled 65% of that list, if I'm not if I'm correct.
President Trump has done much to reintroduce freedom by lowering taxes, ridding us of oppressive regulations, defending religious freedoms.
I was reading in Breitbart, I think it was last week, and John Nulty, who is a frequent guest on my show, Rose Unplugged, had written about the Never Trumpers, and he just made such great points that I want to read a portion of what he wrote.
He says, had the National Review, the Weekly Standard, David From Rick Wilson, Jonah Goldberg, Bill Kristol, Joe Scarborough, and the rest of this morally bankrupt crew called Never Trump, won the day, Democrats would be looking at a 6-3 majority on the Supreme Court.
Think about that.
Think about that.
Had never Trump got what they wanted in 2016, and that was a President Hillary Clinton, Supreme Court Justice Scalia would have already been replaced with another Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
And that would give them an immediate 5-4 left-wing majority.
But thanks to the man that never Trump told us was not a real conservative, we got Neil Gorsuch.
And Nulty goes on to say if that's not enough of a real life nightmare.
Wednesday's retirement of Justice Anthony Kennedy would have increased that already unthinkable majority to six to three, and he's right, ensuring a left-wing court rerenting the Constitution for decades to come.
Nolte goes on to say, just look at the how these never Trumpers would have unleashed during the Supreme Court term that just ended.
Listen to this.
He's right.
Cake artists forced to participate in same-sex weddings.
Public employees forced to contribute to Democrat campaigns through forced union dues, pro-life clinics, forced by the state to advertise for abortion clinics.
States not allowed to clean up their own outdated voter rolls.
John is absolutely right.
I get sick every time I think of those who so boldly contributed to that special national review issue.
Do you remember it?
It was titled Against Trump.
Remember those so-called conservative thinkers, those great minds, right?
Real great minds, 22 of them that wrote never Trump essays.
They look a little foolish right now, don't they?
The whole lot of them.
Then they looked foolish, and especially now.
And now you've got the left's view of democracy, and that is uh the degree to which a government controls a population for the benefit of itself and preferred groups rather than we the people.
So now we've got the left's resistance to Trump, and now his second Supreme Court nominee.
Um if you think about this, their resistance to the results of a democratic election.
That's what you're seeing right now.
Their resistance to a democratic election.
So in the end, who is it that's a threat to our democracy?
Not Trump.
It is they that are a threat to our democracy.
Thank God, the left did not get what they wanted.
And in the end, we're getting what we need.
And that's the preservation of our Constitution.
That's what it really does come down to, doesn't it?
What that's what's most important.
And that is, then, my friends, a very good reason to celebrate on Wednesday.
Think about it.
The Constitution is a liberating document, and that's why the left hates it.
You know, if you don't believe me, ask yourself this question.
If the Constitution is the greatest political document that's ever been written, why has no other country adopted it?
The answer is they would have to give up too much power.
The Constitution is liberation.
I've got another question for you.
Why are we so fortunate to have a constitution at all?
I think the answer to that is there were no liberal, there was no liberal bureaucracy here to oppose it, no swamp.
And yes, I'm going to say it for this fourth of July.
Thank God for Trump, who is keeping America great, who is keeping his promises to us.
Thank God for him.
We've got a lot to talk about today, and I'd love to hear from you.
Um some of our guests, we've got uh Jay Christian Adams is joining us today, and I'm looking forward to that.
Uh he's going to give us his analysis on the latest in the Mahler probe and the FBI's mishandling of the Trump and Clinton investigations.
Um Cohen was out there talking today.
We'll talk about or over the weekend, I'm sorry, with Stephanopoulos.
We'll talk about that.
Joe Concha is going to join us later in the show.
We're going to talk about the media.
Oh my gosh, have I got stories for you?
I mean, it's just, I don't even know how they also have a job.
There's somebody who doesn't have a job, and we'll get to that too in just a few moments.
And then Karen Vaughn has a very exciting announcement to make.
Good friend of mine, good friend of the Hannity Show.
So lots happening.
Call in.
Also, I want to talk about women and how we're being treated by the left and the feminist movement.
So if you want to weigh in on any of that, call in at 1800-941-Shawn 800-941-7326.
I'm Rose, and I'll be right back for Sean after this.
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Welcome back to the Sean Handity show.
I'm Rose.
You can check me out on Twitter.
It's at Rose underscore unplugged.
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And call me here at 1 800 941 Sean.
That's 1-800-941-7326.
Why don't we take Charles real quick from Kansas City, Missouri?
Hey, Charles, how are you doing?
Oh my gosh.
Rose, I'll tell you, I was so inspired for that monologue that you had at the beginning of the show here a couple of seconds ago.
I just wanted to know if there was a written text of it.
I'm I'm a moderate conservative, the both coasts.
I you know, lived in New York for 27 years.
I saw Schumer come out of nowhere.
Uh he was great for the state of New York.
He's just not good for the uh for the nation.
Yeah.
I'm a moderate conservative, and you're you're playing music to my ears.
Thank you so much.
Oh, Charles, thank you so much.
You know what I'll do?
I usually just have bullet points, but I will put something together and I'll make sure.
I'll talk to Lauren and we'll figure something out so that we can put it out there.
And thanks for that.
Because I got to tell you something, Charles, and the rest of you.
I just went through the craziest week last week, and I am not kidding you.
Wednesday, I was getting ready to take my dog for a walk.
I was tying one of those cute little blue, you know, bags around my crossbody bag so that in case he did his little doo-doo somewhere, I would be able to pick it up, right?
So I'm paying attention to that and not paying attention to where I'm walking.
So I go, I uh I'm taking a step forward and I go right off of my covered patio onto my cement patio and fell face down.
So uh that left me with a problem with one of my teeth and a fat lip.
Okay, that was Wednesday.
All right, so I went into the hospital, got my x-rays done to make sure I didn't fracture anything in my face.
Friday, just two days later, Friday, I'm on my way out the door to meet some friends for lunch, and I and I look at my dog and I think, oh, I should play with you before I leave.
And so I grab his frisbee.
As I'm going down to get his frisbee, he's going down and he headbuts me, he slams me, and I saw black and I heard the crunching sound, and there was blood everywhere, and I knew it.
I knew my nose was broken.
I mean, so now Friday I'm in the hospital for the second time in three days, and the nurse comes up to me and she just says, you know, I have to ask you this question.
Do you feel safe at home?
And I know they have to ask that.
And I said, Not if my dog's there, no.
Ethan said I should probably ask for a restraining order against the dog.
That being said, he is the sweetest dog.
And right now, he looks so innocent.
He has absolutely no idea what happened.
As a matter of fact, he his name is Tucker.
He's an F2 golden doodle.
He is the dog I've always wanted, except for the broken nose thing and the chip tooth and all that and the big lip.
So I'm gonna show him to you on social media.
If you go to Rose Unplugged on Facebook or at Rose underscore unplugged, you will see a picture of Tucker.
And yes, I did name Tucker after Tucker Carlson.
Okay.
They're almost my dog is a little cuter than Tucker Carlson.
Okay, but Tucker Carlson, he's cute.
Those eyes he makes, my dog makes the same eyes.
You know, when somebody's talking to him like you're crazy.
So anyway, he is the sweetest dog.
He looks so innocent, has no idea, no idea whatsoever.
Check him out on social media, Rose Unplugged on Facebook at Rose underscore unplugged.
The phone number for Sean's show is 800-941.
800-941-7326.
I will be taking your phone calls when I come back.
We're going to talk about women.
We're going to talk about the feminist movement and what good have they really done us and how much do they care about women on the right.
Not much, in my opinion.
Yeah, it is.
It's the Sean Hannity show.
My name is Rose of Rose Unplugged.
Check me out on Twitter.
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If you want to see that headbanger Tucker, he's there.
And also on Facebook, it's Rose Unplugged.
I'm going to talk about how the left treats women.
But before I do, let me take a quick call from Debbie Culling from Wisconsin.
Hey Deb, how are you doing?
I'm doing good.
Thank you for taking my call.
I thought it was interesting when you said, you know, right before the break that you appreciate everything that Trump has done.
And I shared with your screener that I've always voted Republican, but I changed my status to an independent because I didn't care for George Bush.
But in this last um election, I was a Ben Carson fan.
Well, and then I was a Ted Cruz fan.
And I voted for Trump very reluctantly because he was the only, you know, person I could vote for.
Um, but if I knew then what I know now, I would be going to the polls with a very excited spirit.
I love him.
And I think I'm pretty typical.
I'm a 51-year-old white woman, which I'm gonna add one more thing.
I didn't tell the screener, but uh in one of Hillary's famous um notorious speeches when she talked about how the white men are talking their women into going and voting for him.
I'm actually playing that coming up.
That's go ahead, Debbie.
Oh well, I'm a white woman.
I'm married to a Mexican man of 30 years, and I talked him into going and voting for him.
Wait until you hear what I have to say because Debbie, we all know who really has influences in the house.
And and and women have they too.
Debbie, that's hilarious.
But you know what, you're absolutely right.
And you know, it's interesting too because um I I really believe we got the president that we needed right now.
I I really do believe that.
And I had an opportunity to he he's an awesome I I really like him.
I had the opportunity to work with his sons and to work with him.
Uh anytime he was in Pennsylvania, I opened for him.
And I and I had opportunity to speak with him when Sean Hannity was here doing a town hall, and I really liked him.
I really, really did like him.
And uh he's not what people try to make him out to be.
He was a very uh kind and gracious man.
I I liked him.
I I don't you know what I don't even care what he does as long as he is doing the country right.
And as long as he does right by the country, I'm okay with him.
I don't care about anything else.
I really don't.
I I agree.
I agree.
And I think with Trump, so much of his fault, he doesn't try to hide.
It's just out in the public.
Whereas I don't think any of the other presidents have had any less than Trump has had.
They've just kept theirs hidden.
That's my belief.
Yep, I agree with you.
Debbie, thank you for your phone call.
Wait until you hear what I've got coming up next.
We are really in sync here, my friend.
I've got audio of Sunday's AM Joy.
That's uh the MSNBC contributor, and uh, she was interviewing Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin.
Now, this chick Ruben claims to be a conservative, but I don't know, you decide when you hear what she had to say.
I it's just so disappointing to hear women talk about other women this way.
Take a listen.
The next time that Sarah Huckabee Sanders or the president starts in with his fake news and enemy of the people, I would suggest one of two things.
Either the entire press corps walk out of the briefing room.
Why should they put on air a message that is a coded word to every nutcase in America to come after them?
So get up and leave.
Or in unison, holler back.
They sit there, they take it, they record it.
We have to be there, we have to um let them say their piece.
No, you don't.
Um, your lives are all in danger.
Your lives are on the line.
Yeah, okay.
Walk out.
Do it.
Do it.
Who cares?
Honestly, I get so sick and tired of all of you there.
Poor Sarah Huckabee Sanders, what she's got to do and put what she's got to put up with.
Astounding, absolutely astounding.
You know, and that's what I wanted to talk about.
It's interesting that Debbie should say what she did because they just won't leave Sarah Sanders alone.
And it's not just her.
It's Kirsten Nielsen.
She's hounded while eating at a Mexican restaurant.
Sarah Huckabee Sanders asked to leave a restaurant and harassed all the way across the street, for God's sake.
Ivanka Trump constantly criticized for...
well, for being the president's daughter.
So to me, the message is if you're a woman and you're not liberal, you are somehow a traitor to your gender.
Wasn't it Kay Bailey Hutcheson from Texas?
Wasn't she called a female impersonator?
Remember that?
And I don't know about you ladies, but I I can assure those liberals that we are very real women who are independent thinkers and have decided to make our own decisions rather than accept their superior wisdom that they want to so graciously hand down to us.
If the feminism movement was designed by women for women in order to create a more perfect society, where all women are taken seriously, all women are respected for their contributions to that society.
Then where the hell do these feminists get off with the insults and the criticisms that they keep hurling at women who are doing just that?
The women they're criticizing are being taken seriously.
They are in those positions where they're respected for their contributions to society.
It's because the left does what they always do.
When they see societal upheaval and major changes in thinking, they hijack the movement.
So these feminists, these these leftist women, they want above everything else to confine us in our thoughts and our deeds.
And these women, these leftist women desire to dictate to us what to think, how to act, and in very much the same way that the so-called patriarchy that they claim to be fighting did.
These feminist movement, these women, they want to exercise the very type of control over us, ladies, that they claim they were fighting to free us from.
This is what my friend Quinn calls his first law.
Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.
They don't want you and I to think independently.
They don't want you to follow your dreams of staying at home if that's your dream, raising a family if that's your dream, or God forbid, serving in the Trump administration if that's your dream.
Whatever it is you choose to do, they don't want you to follow those dreams.
They want you to validate theirs.
They've become the new self-appointed definers and masters of what is acceptable among women, what is acceptable positions among women.
Hillary Clinton, whose list of who and what to blame for her loss is longer than Rachel Maddow's face was on election night.
She included that line that Debbie referenced.
Women whose husbands, sons, fathers, brothers, and bosses have somehow pressured them into voting for Trump.
Really?
Listen, lady, the reason you lost is we don't want to be like you.
As America's most prominent feminist, and after 50 years of pounding feminism into every single blessed corner of our culture in our media, academia, law, after 50 years, you maintain that women still can't think for themselves, that we're still the little woman who looks to the man of the house for permission to have an opinion.
Oh, can I think about it this way?
Is it okay?
Talk about a major cultural fail.
No wonder you didn't get elected.
No one is buying what you're selling, except for maybe in the women's studies department at your local university.
I mean, listen, if you think about it, she's the only woman that you could point to who relied on a man who tolerated what this man did.
Think about it, who broke every one of the rules for the purpose of achieving power, and whose only commodity she had to sell was influence.
That's Hillary.
And la, and I think it was last week, the Huffington Post or Huff Post ran a piece entitled Women Are Evil with a portfolio of women who don't agree with them.
Ivanka Trump, Kellyanne Conway, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, and the article, of course, starts out with the monsters are always men.
They menace from the highest positions of power.
They lurk in the shadows of your subconscious.
Maybe in your subconscious, not in mine.
And maybe these women who find these shadows that are lurking in their subconscious said, go talk to somebody.
And then they go on to say that these intermediaries are all too often women, white women of privilege, who are doing quite well under the patriarchy.
See, it's not because they're good at what they do.
and the article goes on to say it's a neat trick, enforcing a system that affords you an amount of privilege, but also oppresses others just like you.
And it's one white women have been playing for years.
So this writer is saying that these women didn't achieve their positions by their own power, but by accepting the power of men above them.
Yeah, it is a neat trick because the only way you can prove that you're not what they say you are is to quit.
And that's that's intellectually dishonest.
You know what they're trying to do, they're invalidating the achievements of these conservative women.
Hey, name a liberal female that was the first to lead a successful presidential election.
Hmm, I'll wait while you think about that.
And what Hillary and this author have done is to insult all women.
Yeah, feminism did play some part in redefining the rules of women in society, but it's it's got a dark side.
It opened some doors, but it slammed others.
Ladies in this audience, is there one of you, one that voted for Donald Trump because your boss put on due pressure on you?
And since the voting booth is private, how would your boss or your husband or your brother, your son, even know that you did it?
It's just absurd.
Think about how many women can persuade men.
And Debbie said this without even speaking a word.
It it is women who are the persuasive sex.
You know it, and I know it.
Things can get pretty chilly if she's not happy.
Remember that old country song, Is It Cold In Here or Is It Just You?
You have a soul.
Are you feeling Hey ladies?
Coming up next, I'll take some phone calls from you, and I want to hear from you.
Are your brothers, your cousins that are men, your bosses, your husbands, your fathers, are they all telling you how to vote?
Call me, 1800-941 Sean.
We'll be back with more after this.
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity show.
My name is Rose.
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It's at Rose underscore unplugged.
I will try to put into written form my monologue today.
A lot of people have been asking for it on social media.
Nice to hear from all of you, by the way.
Uh let's take some phone calls.
Uh the phone number is 800-941-Shawn, 800-941-7326.
Let's go to Heather in Williamsburg, Virginia.
Thanks, Rose.
It's great to be on the show.
I always love when you're on, because I'm originally from Pittsburgh too, and it's nice to hear Pittsburgh voice.
Nice.
So tell me you ran for office.
I did.
I ran for uh House of Delegates and um had significant community involvement, was uh school board member for a while, and the treatment that I received from quote unquote the indivisible groups, the common ground groups that really don't want to have common ground and the media was just ridiculous.
And you know, I'm independent, I'm strong-minded, I'm hardworking, and um it was, you know, kind of discouraging.
And I love the fact that Trump has strong women.
And um, you know, I kind of agree with your previous caller that he at first wasn't my first choice, but every day I get happier and I get bolder and talk more and more about how proud I am that he's my president.
So um I really appreciate you you bringing all that up.
And you know, I'm not giving up.
I I am still staying involved, and um I just you know hope that more people will realize that they're gonna face significant bias, but it's worth it because we have the better ideas.
It is worth it, and I do um hope and pray for the women who are publicly shamed because they work for this administration, and yet they are some of the strongest women, the brightest women, the most talented women uh that could be serving this administration.
And I I really feel for them, and I gotta tell you, I love Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
I'm I'm I love her.
Please don't go away, Sarah, because we love you.
We need you there.
And you know, that that woman, Jennifer Rubin, you know what?
She's telling the the um journalist to walk out, go ahead, walk out.
Who the heck cares?
We don't want you there anyway.
You're such a disruption.
I don't even care if they ever do.
I I I just they drive me crazy.
They really do.
Thank you so much, Heather, for your phone call.
Jennifer from North Carolina, how are you?
Hey, how are you?
Uh good.
So I was calling because I wasn't sure if you were aware of this kind of um viral video that has just kind of exploded on Facebook.
This um walk away campaign.
Yes.
Yes, as a matter of fact, we were going to have Brandon, who um who has become almost the face of the walk away campaign, but we ran out of time today.
I I am thrilled by this campaign.
How do you feel about it?
I I can't, I mean, I can't get anything else done because all I keep doing is like checking the page and reading people's comments and like watching their stories.
Like I just I cannot get anything else done.
Like I'm conservative.
I've been listening to Rush Lindball, you know, since I was a you know, a kid in a car with my parents, so uh but it's just like always been amazing to me.
You know, like how people don't understand how, you know, but given the choices, why you would not be a conservative.
But just to hear these people's stories about their awakenings is just like it's amazing.
It's just incredible.
And the the membership in his group just keeps growing.
Like I keep checking it, I think it's over like over 30,000 members now.
It's just insane.
Yeah, I love it.
I'm so glad you brought that up, Jennifer, because I really did want to have Brandon on.
Uh Brandon Strzok, he's this really good looking gay guy, and he yeah, he's the fa he's become pretty much the face of it.
He's from Naba Br Nebraska, and he said that he's one of the liberals who had first melted down after Trump was elected, um, because he believed all the lies the media told him.
And he said he's tired of them trying to dictate the left, dictate who he should be, how he should feel, and he doesn't like the the uh vitriol that's coming from the left.
And you know, it's exactly what I was talking about.
We're women are concerned too.
I mean, all of these groups, women, gays, there's so many blacks, Hispanics, they don't want to be dictated to.
They don't want the support of the left only if the if they believe they don't need the support of the left at all, but you have to believe the way the left does, or else you know you're you're insignificant.
It doesn't matter who you are.
So anyway, thanks for your call.
We are up against a hard break.
I will be back.
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We have lots to talk about.
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So we're looking for an analysis on the latest in the Mueller probe and the FBI's mishandling of the Trump and Clinton investigations and oh my gosh, and Flynn and Cohen.
And so we asked the only guy you should ask when it comes to all of these things, Christian Adams.
He's the president of the public interest legal foundation, editor at PJ Media, and former DOJ attorney.
How are you today, Christian?
Hey, I'm great.
Hi, Rose.
Hi, it's good to have you on.
Oh my goodness, I have so many questions for you.
So why don't we start with the documents, okay?
If it when you consider the documents, they still haven't been uh presented to Congress, has been acting uh asking for them for a very long time.
And and and so now it's is this contempt of Congress?
And if so, do you know when they held Holder in contempt?
It didn't really produce the fast and furious documents that they were looking for then.
So in the end, what good would that do?
I mean, they're talking about a whole lot of things that we could the next step actually, like do we is it contempt of Congress?
Is there an impeachment?
Um could Congress put Rosenstein in jail?
I'm just throwing all this stuff out there that you keep hearing from so many different people.
Also, Trump w could with just a stroke of a pen um demand that the d documents be released.
I mean, where are we right now?
What is the next best step?
Well, let's talk about the stroke of a pen for a minute, because what's been happening over the last year, Justice Department officials have been quietly threatening the White House any time Trump uh comes close to considering such bold moves.
They're like, you know, do you really want to do something like this?
Particularly emanating out of Rod Rosenstein's office.
And so that that's why that is not a real plausible alternative unless Trump wants to go to war with his own Justice Department.
I don't think you're there yet.
So let's start at the beginning.
The Constitution.
Congress is the oversight agency.
Congress has a right to information.
It's almost like we're we're in a parliamentary system when it comes to government investigations.
And this Justice Department, uh, not the president, but the bureaucrats at the department and and their some of their political overlords like Rod Rosenstein have done all they can to hide the facts from the American people and the representatives in Congress.
And they've threatened subpoenas, they've threatened to impeach Rod Rosenstein, uh they've they've talked about a lot of different things.
But the bottom line is this illustrates what I've been saying for years.
The federal bureaucracy, particularly the Justice Department, has become unhinged, it's become unmoored, untethered from the political branches.
They think they think they're a government unto itself, and they won't give Congress the information because they think the institution of the Justice Department is more important than the Constitution.
Now that's scary, and we talked a lot on this show already about the Constitution and how important it is and how important it is that we have Trump in office and not a Hillary Clinton.
But when when you consider what you're saying, I mean that's that's a big deal.
If they think that they themselves are bigger than our Constitution, this is this is serious stuff.
How do we put them back in their place?
Well, there's a couple different ways.
I mean, you have you have uh great folks like Jim Jordan in Congress from Ohio, uh Louis Gomert from Texas, Mark Meadows from North Carolina, a couple of uh uh of very courageous of Congress, uh uh from the Republican Party, obviously, have been willing to take on these bureaucrats and their political overseers at DOJ.
And you know, they have floated ideas of contempt, they floated ideas of impeachment of Rod Rosenstein, and incidentally, not long after they threatened to impeach Rod Rosenstein, who by the way testified last week.
We could talk more about that.
Right, right.
Uh he cave, he capitulated on on one set of documents.
So it's quite clear that these bureaucrats fear for their reputations, fear for their jobs, don't like their names in the news.
So there are weapons that Republicans can use to get the information they want if they're only willing to use them.
Well, that's interesting.
And you know, when we do talk about um some have talked about the impeachment of of Rosenstein uh Rosenstein and and and that would could go to court and and uh it fight impeachment, it could drag on for as long as possible.
Others have said like Dershowitz and even Greg Jarrett, who's often on this show, Sean Hannity's show, um, you know, this is something that Rod Rosenstein should look at himself and say, you know what, am I in the right place?
Should I step down?
Is it right that I continue in this position?
Uh uh but he won't it doesn't seem like that's something that he wants to do.
Isn't that something that just makes sense?
If you're if you're Rod Rosenstein, shouldn't you do that?
Shouldn't you step down and say, look, there's just too much of a conflict here.
I that's a great point.
I've talked about Rod Rosenstein with Sean on this show before, and you wonder what he's doing there.
I mean, this is a guy who's been in the federal bureaucracy almost all of his life, if not all of it.
Uh he got elevated to like the most second most coveted slot at DOJ by the president.
Uh that's a whole nother story.
And he has surrounded himself with with moderate to leftist people uh in his office as deputies who probably didn't even vote for the president, if I had to guess.
And I've done a whole story on these individual deputies.
And so the question is, don't you have more pride?
He's obviously very thin skinned.
In the uh hearing last week with Jim Jordan, he became uh he became very animated and emotional as if, you know, how dare you question me personally if you saw the video uh Jim Jordan railed into him.
And you know what?
These are personal decisions Rod Rosenstein's making.
It's not some robot that spits out decisions to disclose and to hide information from Congress.
Rod Rosenstein could un un uh release the documents if he wanted to.
Yeah, exactly.
And and and Jordan is doing a fabulous job.
I have to tell you that I really appreciate the Democrats for their comedic relief.
Um Adam Schiff said that that request for more documents is an attempt to discredit the Mueller investigation.
So oh, I don't understand how does more evidence hurt an investigation, but you know, it it it it does provide some um comedic relief, I guess, when they speak some of them.
I I seriously, these guys are too much.
How much longer will the Go ahead.
Go ahead.
No go ahead.
I was gonna ask you, in your estimation, how much longer is this Mueller investigation going to go on?
I mean, I know these things can take time, should take time in many cases, but uh what do you think?
What's going on here?
Well, yeah, that that's a great point because uh uh Rosenstein was told at the hearing last week, wrap it up by Trey Gowdy from South Carolina.
And the look, remember, this thing started out as some conspiracy theory that somehow uh uh uh Putin was manipulating the outcome of the election, you know, whether it be the machines that now the DHS and all the bureaucrats at the AJS are now eager to get their claws into state election officials, which should be resisted at all costs, this critical infrastructure nonsense.
But either that or something else.
And and lo and behold, what has come out of it?
Paul Manaford was indicted for laundering money through a rug company.
Okay, that has nothing to do with collusion.
So far we don't have anything to do with collusion.
Nothing.
The only collusion we've learned about in the last year is the collusion of a bunch of FBI agents, like Peter Strzok and Lisa Page colluding to try to prevent Donald Trump from becoming president.
Yeah, you know, exactly.
And you know, and and speaking of collusion, I I want to ask you a question too about the what the IG report, just for a moment.
Horowitz said uh he found political bias, but didn't find evidence that the bias did not affect the outcome of the election, so the media was all over that, but they ignored the rest of what was in the IG report.
So I wanted to ask you, in your opinion, what in the IG report do you find to be the most interesting or damning or something that should have been covered a little more than than it was or wasn't covered at all.
First of all, you have to realize you if you read enough IG reports, you l you figure out what the code is.
Because like this.
Okay.
Conclusions always defend the Justice Department.
The conclusion section, because that's written by the political people.
Okay.
The facts don't always absolve the Justice Department.
In the KCIG report, the facts were damning.
If you read the report on page 400, these are two things I want to tell the public that was in there that nobody was talking about.
Number one, the FBI agents in charge of the Hillary investigation were sending around communications saying we need to interview Hillary, but don't bring many people.
Don't don't come loaded for bear to the interview because she'll remember it and she might be the next president, and we don't want to be in that situation.
This quote is about reputational defense, unquote.
That's what the FBI agents were calling a potential criminal interview of Hillary was that it was about reputational defense.
The second thing in the report, the second thing was Peter Strzok wrote to the Love Bird Lisa Page and said we need to write that Hillary closure memo.
A closure memo is when you shut down an investigation.
We need to write that Hillary closure memo because I just watched the Republican National Convention on television, and I'm getting nervous about Trump winning.
So essentially they were saying we need to shut down the investigation of Hillary because Trump might get momentum out of it.
Those are clear-cut examples where political biases, in my view, and in the view of anybody who has a brain that works, we're affecting the investigation, the Democrat nominee for president.
And Christian, you know what?
These are things that surprise none of us.
None of us.
I'm not at all surprised by any of it.
The reputational defense.
That doesn't surprise me.
And and and the the memo uh from uh from Strock to Page, that doesn't surprise me either.
None of it surprises me, and it's something that we have all suspected, quite frankly, from the very beginning.
Right, and the whole report is full of other examples.
I've we only have time for two of them.
Well, those are pretty damning.
Right.
And I I think I've written a whole piece about this at PJ Media.
Yeah, you did.
There's an enormous amount of things like that where decisions are being made.
And by the way, there's other FBI agents.
We don't even know the names of them.
We know the lovebirds, but there's other FBI agents in this report who were on the investigations of these people who were exhibiting absolute political bias.
We don't even know their names.
What are their names?
The the Justice Department should be reveal who they are, so the American people can dig in and see how biased the FBI is from STEM to stern.
All right, but let's be honest.
I mean, the American people.
Christian, the American people want to know.
And I honestly I don't know that we ever really will fully know fully know.
Do you think we will because uh not as long as Rod Rosenstein is getting information from Congress.
This guy's not going to win any anywhere, is he?
He really isn't.
Well, I don't know where you would go.
I mean, normally what happens in these situations when Republicans turn on their own, like Rosenstein has, is they usually get a gig at MSNBC or CNN.
Uh they get a a column at the Washington Post.
So there's always a home for people like that.
Uh but he apparently doesn't want to go to his new home that awaits him.
I'd help him pack and everything.
Honestly, Christian.
Listen, let me ask you something.
I I have another quick question for you.
If we can't get to the second additional question I have, could you stay with us just a little longer?
Sure thing.
All right, I appreciate that.
We're talking to Christian Adams.
Um his Twitter, by the way, is at Election Law CTR Center.
At elections uh election laws CTR.
His book is Injustice.
Check him out at Election Law Center.com.
And I wanted to ask you about Flynn because right now we're hearing that the Mueller prosecutors still are not ready uh to see Flynn sentenced.
And I d I'm just curious, what do you make of all of this?
Why why is that?
Why are they still pushing that aside?
And I only have two minutes, so if you can't answer all of that in two minutes, we can come back.
So you can begin and we'll come back.
Mike Flynn is being charged with lying to an FBI agent, which is the same thing at Andrew McCabe did, right?
That's one of the things another IG report showed is the number two guy at the FBI, and then the acting director, Andrew McKay, was lying to FBI agents and the inspector general under oath, under oath, right about his leaking to the New York Times about uh uh Trump and Hillary campaign stuff.
And and there's multiple, I think six examples of him committing federal felonies detailed in the IG report, and he hasn't been indicted, but by golly, Mike Flynn has.
And that's part of the problem is there's justice for some, but not justice for all, and that's not how it's supposed to work.
Amen.
Amen.
You're absolutely right about that.
Listen, I'll tell you what, I will take a break right now.
We'll come right back and see how much more we can fit in.
We're talking to Christian Adams.
Stay with us.
We'll be right back after this.
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show.
My name is Rose.
I'm talking to Christian Adams with the Public Interest Legal Foundation, also editor at PJ Media and former DOJ attorney.
All right, quick question for you.
Mike Cohen.
He did an off-camera interview with George Stephanopoulos over the weekend.
And he people were saying he's got to be making Donald Trump very nervous right now because he's hinting at cooperating with federal prosecutors.
What do you make of all that you've heard about this interview so far?
Yeah, you can always count that nothing will come out of interviews with George Stephanopoulos, including this grand conspiracy to bring down the president.
Uh it's not gonna happen and Cohen's not gonna be behind it.
Okay.
I very interesting.
Christian Adams, you do great work.
Thank you so much for joining us today.
His book is Injustice.
Check it out.
His website is Election Law Center.com.
It was great having you on today and uh bringing us up to date on all these all the crazy things that are going on.
Did you ever think did you ever think you'd be writing about all of this?
I mean, this is just it's absurd some of it.
Right.
It's uh the world has gone mad.
You know, Laura Ingles Wilder is now in the crosshairs of this this group of gangsters.
It never seems to stop.
It really doesn't seem to stop.
Thanks so much, Christian Adams, for joining us today.
I appreciate it.
I want to say thanks again to the crew over in New York City, Ethan and Lauren and here, Greg Maxwell and Daryl have helped me so much.
And and thanks to Frank Iorio uh at WJAS for allowing me to use his studios today.
Check me out on Twitter, it's at Rose underscore unplugged.