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	This is Louis Gomert.
	I am the lowly legislator from the state of Texas, and I am honored to be here sitting in for my dear friend Sean Hannity.
	It is uh some people have asked, why would you do radio?
	Hey, that's part of the job.
	Um course ethics doesn't allow me to accept anything, and Sean says his company loves that.
	Uh, but uh that's the way it is.
	And I I'm telling you, I'm hearing from so many people, and I know you're out there, you're fired up.
	This has been a decent year.
	We got some things accomplished that needed to be accomplished.
	And even though the tax bill that was passed, uh you know, polls are showing it wasn't all that popular, uh, it will be, and we have confidence.
	We spent more time working on the tax bill than we did talking about how great it was, uh, that we'll leave that to uh the Democrats, but people will feel the difference.
	And uh it it's going to make a difference for individuals.
	And it kind of gets me to hear Democrats saying, what's a thousand or two thousand dollars to you know middle class America?
	You know, this is no big deal.
	Wow, the arrogance of that.
	It's a big deal to most of us.
	And when it stops being a big deal, it means either inflation has run away or uh the people that are talking about it are just too far detached from the American people.
	And I know that's not you, not in Sean Hannity's audience.
	But uh we've got a big uh stack of things we need to get done this year.
	Uh uh top on my plate is not DACA.
	I will continue to make clear that until the border is secure and the wall is built everywhere we need it.
	We don't need to be talking about any kind of legality, amnesty, whatever you want to call it.
	Let's don't talk about it.
	Let's get it done, get the wall built where we need it, get the border secured, and then we can talk about it because my friends on the border, I get texts, I get word they're saying, you know, we had a huge drop-off in people coming into the country, but as the talk of DACA has been coming back, that maybe it becomes a reality, people are surging back in, and it's overwhelming our border patrol folks again.
	And uh that's something that we have got to get done.
	We've got to address that, and thank God we elected a president who's made clear that was something he is going to make sure we take care of.
	So uh I'm excited.
	We have a show today.
	It's a special edition, and that's compliments of Linda.
	Linda says, uh, it's a special edition of the Hannity Show, where we'll feature several of the members of the House Freedom Caucus to discuss the serious and pressing issues facing the American people.
	Uh the House Freedom Caucus supports open, accountable, limited government, the Constitution, and the rule of law, and policies that promote liberty, safety, and prosperity of all Americans.
	Uh unlike uh the people that have been at the top of the Justice Department, We're not as concerned about what party you're in as we are getting liberty for everybody.
	And if you want to take away people's liberty as people in the last administration wanted to, then I'm sorry, that is not what would we want to see done.
	And I I know uh just saw on uh Fox News that uh the voting had been certified in Alabama, but I I know this has been talked about a great deal, and some people ask why did you go to Alabama to help Roy Moore?
	Look, I I met him back when I was a district judge, a felony judge, like he had been at one time, and uh I uh was impressed with his principles, and when the declarations came out by women allegedly 38 years afterwards, four weeks before the election, one thing I know, and and folks, you're listening to a guy who has sentenced many people to life in prison for what they did to women.
	I it it and you know, having three daughters and a wife, I I care deeply about what happens to women.
	But and I've even sentenced uh to death for what one guy did to uh a woman, and I had no problems in doing that.
	I take it seriously.
	But I also take due process seriously, and in fact, I may be the only member of Congress that's ever appealed a death sentence.
	I had no problem with capital punishment.
	Uh I wrote a paper uh that a very liberal socialist uh professor gave me an A on.
	Um but back in college days, I've always felt there is a place for capital punishment if the circumstances are right.
	But as I told the highest court in Texas when I argued this guy's case, I believe in capital punishment.
	But in order to have punishment, you have got to make sure due process is accorded and afforded, and in this case it wasn't.
	And I saw it, folks, there's a reason we have statutes of limitation where you cannot make claims against someone in court after a certain length of time under in criminal courts.
	You can't.
	They're barred by limitations.
	You got murder, you got treason.
	There's few things that don't have limitations.
	But uh in a civil case, if you want to sue somebody for an assault, sexual or otherwise, uh, there are limitations on when a claim can be made.
	And why is that?
	Because we have evolved in our justice system to where we saw if you wait too long to make a claim, then a person cannot adequately defend themselves.
	I mean, if somebody made a claim against me, you did something 38 years ago.
	Well, I know I was at Fort Benning, Georgia, in what they call this man's army.
	Uh I don't know if I'd been sent TDY temporary duty to some other post.
	I've been sent to a lot of posts.
	I don't know where I was on a given day.
	And the Army doesn't know.
	I tried to get some of my records uh back years ago.
	They don't have the picture, they don't have anything, they've got my honorable discharge, they don't have my honors and stuff.
	But anyway, they got nothing.
	Uh how could you prove where you were at a time that something is alleged specifically 38 years ago?
	So all you can do is start taking apart the stories that are given, and there's not time to do that in four weeks.
	So it was pretty clear uh what was happening was um, you know, a personality assassination, and uh you know, in in sexual assault cases, uh we're very strict in what evidence we will allow a jury to hear.
	There is an exception, uh there are a few exceptions, but one is that we let the jury know how quickly a person who contends she she or he was sexually assaulted, how quickly they made an outcry.
	And it then I I'd have to hear evidence.
	Was it a legitimate outcry?
	Or is this just somebody in the family that's trying to help out with the story, but they really don't, and then you look to that and see see what the quote uh the credibility is.
	Those are big deals.
	And uh when you have stories that start breaking down, where you have fraud in saying that a an autograph took place, or somebody said, Yeah, he used to call me.
	I was 14.
	He'd call me on my phone in my room, and it turns out she didn't have a phone in her room.
	They didn't have a cell phone.
	They didn't have a cord that reached to her room.
	So, okay, you lied about that.
	What else are you lying about?
	You've got to have time to break down stories.
	And I knew there was not time.
	And all I could think about was Harry Reed after he lied about Mitt Romney and said, you know, gee, Romney didn't pay taxes for all these years.
	Turned out it was a lie.
	When he was asked about it later after the election, all he had to say was, well, we won, didn't we?
	You know, that's the way some people in this country look at it.
	Not truth, not justice, not the American way.
	The old test from Superman of years ago, truth, justice, and the American way.
	Yeah, I used to dress up and have the cape, the whole thing.
	But uh I I love Superman.
	He was fighting for what was right.
	You know, I was quoted in the Dallas Morning News when I was six years old as saying, uh, when I grow up, I want to be a fine Christian sheriff.
	And uh I didn't think it was funny.
	I never could understand why anybody thought that was worth printing.
	But anyway, uh it's truth.
	It's justice, it's the American way.
	But when you hit somebody up 38 years afterwards, and you know they don't have time, we don't know how long the Washington Post sat on this story, but clearly uh this is a tactic of the left.
	Wait and ambush when they can't defend themselves, and I have a feeling there's somebody out there.
	I mean, it wouldn't it bear uh at least getting into the question.
	Gee, if McConnell would spend 30 million dollars trying to take down Roy Moore, and the Democrats would spend 50, 60, 70, whatever they spent trying to take him down.
	Uh is it beyond the pale of at least asking and investigating uh did somebody make some money off this thing?
	You know, if they're spending 60, 70 million dollars, 100 million jointly to try to win a race, and it's very, very clear no one was going to beat Roy Moore on the Democratic side of the ticket um until these allegations came.
	Would it be worth investing in the allegations?
	I don't know.
	But these are questions that need to be asked.
	And I understand that the judges uh filing suit over the uh election.
	Well, I hope something that he files is a um liable slander case.
	Uh those are such tough cases.
	I mean, I got like the Longview Paper, there's no question we've got all kinds of malice that we could prove, but uh it it's amazing that you have newspapers haven't have a tough time making it, but uh, and then you have a paper like that that panders to the 25% that vote against me in general elections.
	But I I can't prove any damages.
	I've got the malice evidence, I've got everything, but if I win with 75% of the vote, despite what they're trying to manipulate the public to believe, then uh it's kind of hard to show any damages.
	So I don't have damages, maybe someday there'll be some damages, but they're not.
	Roy Moore has real damages.
	He has his personality's been destroyed by these allegations.
	But what really bothered me too was how many people in office, Republican and Democrat said, well, you know, he's a child molester, this would be a blot on the Senate, what not.
	What didn't didn't you believe in due process at one time?
	Really?
	You would take a guy who's been, regardless whether you agree or disagree with his position on the Ten Commandments, it was the position in this country for at least a century and a half uh that it that the Ten Commandments were an important building block of making a great country.
	Um, you know, if he had lived 50, 60 years ago, there would be statues to him.
	What a great hero.
	But uh he's got damages, and I hope something's done about it.
	But we're gonna come back.
	We got a great year ahead of us coming up.
	We don't mess it up.
	It's gonna be great, and you're gonna hear about it.
	Uh we've Got Dave Bratt, my friend from Virginia, Freedom Caucus uh member, as well as Randy Weber of Texas going to be back with us.
	And we'll look for your calls.
	800-941-7326, 800-941.
	This is Louis Gaumert sitting in for my friend Sean Hannity, a real American hero.
	He is for me.
	What a great guy.
	We're going to take some calls and uh see what some of the folks are talking about.
	But let me mention this.
	Before I I was going on the bench, a uh judge that I'd tried cases in front of, he was always fair uh Democrat, but he was always a very fair man.
	And he was dying of cancer, and he said, Louie, uh being a judge is a great job.
	It's a lonely job because a lot of your friends you can't hang around with anymore because it would look bad.
	Um, because they're going to be litigating in front of you.
	But uh this stuff that people say about not having any bias is ridiculous.
	Every human being has bias.
	Um, but you've got to recognize what your biases are, because this is the justice system.
	And for there to be justice, you have to recognize your biases, and you have to avoid letting them affect what you do from the bench.
	And it's that same thing's true in DOJ.
	And then when I was asking some questions from of Rosenstein, the deputy AG about uh have you seen political bias in this person, that person, some on the left went nuts, always demanding a political litmus test.
	No, it is important that we know whether or not people's political opinions is affecting what they did.
	And I worked very hard to make sure that as a judge I was fair and I was just regardless.
	And uh that meant some people that were uh begging me as supporters not to send somebody to prison that should have gone.
	Um they didn't get their way.
	Uh it uh didn't matter to me if they were supporters, it didn't matter if they were rich or poor, we were gonna do what was right.
	And that's what's been lacking in this Justice Department.
	We knew the IRS was weaponized under Obama in 2011 and 12, but we didn't know, as New Gingrich has said, he he told Sean, uh we didn't know how bad things were until Trump won.
	And if Hillary had won, we would never have known.
	But let's go to Amy in Colorado.
	Uh, how are you, Amy?
	Hi, Mr. Gilmert.
	Great.
	Yes, just Louie.
	Thank you.
	It's great talking to you.
	Well, this is that you had uh uh issue about the double standard in the system of justice between Trump and Hillary.
	What did you notice?
	Well, I just noticed that you know Hillary is seemingly above the law.
	She obviously broke the law that got away with that.
	And there's no screaming for an investigation whereas there's no evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians, and yet they're investigating every aspect of his life.
	And also, there's a double standard with the sexual allegations, too, with Roy Moore and Al Franken.
	No kidding.
	Al Franken probably could have gotten away without resigning.
	Yeah, yeah, he probably could.
	You're so right.
	I'm getting the buzz.
	We've got 10 seconds, five seconds.
	But Amy, thanks so much to listening to Hannity program.
	Uh, we'll be right back with Dave Bratt and Randy Weber.
	You keep listening.
	We'll talk to you soon.
	This is the Sean Hannity show.
	This is Louis Gomert, uh member of Congress from the great state of Texas sitting in for him.
	And uh, we've got a couple of great guests uh on for this half hour.
	Uh you hear from Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan, the current chairman and the past chairman of the House Freedom Caucus.
	Uh, you hear from them all the time.
	Well, we're gonna hear for some folks you don't hear from all the time, but uh it really is an incredible group of Americans.
	They care about their country.
	Uh Randy Weber is uh member of Congress from Texas.
	Uh they his district suffered a great deal from the hurricanes.
	But uh take you back to the summer of 2015.
	We had tried very hard in January to get up to 29 Republicans Who would vote for anybody besides John Boehner?
	We knew if everybody was voting and we had 29 Republicans vote for somebody else.
	Pelosi could not be speaker because she couldn't get a majority.
	And it would throw it to a second ballot.
	And we knew that anybody that announced they were running like me would never be elected.
	But if we could get enough to get us up to 29, we'd get to a second ballot.
	There would be an emergency conference called, and they would yell at those of us that 29 or so that had voted beside someone besides Boehner.
	And at that conference, they say fine, we'd say, fine, it's uh you can say whatever you want to, but we're gonna keep voting for somebody else, like they did back in the 1920s for nine ballots until they got what they wanted.
	And why don't we compromise on somebody else being speaker?
	But so we were a little disillusioned.
	We got to 24, but uh most people thought we'd never get past nine where we were stuck for three weeks until it was Jim Breidenstein and Thomas Massey's idea.
	Uh why don't you announce?
	And then that takes away the excuse a lot of people get, oh, I'd vote for anybody but Boehner if somebody would announce you announce that takes that away.
	So by July, though, we knew when we got 24 that the time was coming, he wasn't gonna make a full two years, most of us believe, because uh we'd pick up enough to create a problem.
	And so in July, there were some of us sitting around speculating, somebody said, I think he will probably resign in January.
	That's 25 full years in Congress, and others say, No, I don't think he'll make it to August.
	And I said, No, no, he'll make it through August because the Pope is coming the end of September, and he has been wanting to get the Pope here.
	He's Catholic.
	There is no way he would resign before the Pope comes.
	But I think when the Pope comes, you'll see him resign pretty shortly after that.
	That's what happened.
	Pope came the next day he resigned.
	But Randy, when I said, I think Pope comes and he resigns.
	Randy Weber said, Um, so Louie, what you're telling us is you think we're gonna have Pope and Change.
	And I said, Yes, Randy, we're gonna have Pope and Change.
	And we did.
	Uh Dave Bratt, let me I can I cannot describe him as well as longer Laura Ingram did in her her book, Billionaire at the Barricades, totally recommended.
	Great book.
	Um, but she said referred to Bratt's brainy fearlessness.
	Tan with his Sandy Brown hair combed back and wire rimmed glasses.
	Brad had the look of an all-American prepster.
	His smile was real and reassuring.
	More than the average politician, Brad understood the urgent need to disrupt the old GOP hierarchy.
	So Hannity audience, welcome.
	Dave Bratt, Congressman of Virginia, and Randy Weber of Texas, two congressional heroes of mine.
	Welcome to the Hannity Show.
	Yeah, and Louis, thanks so much.
	Well, hey guys, Dave, you you know, you were a professor teaching economics.
	Uh uh, let's go to the tax bill that just got passed.
	Can you name off some things that people are gonna see a change for the better as a result?
	Yeah, I mean, the biggest thing, the most important thing in all of human history is economic growth.
	People forget all of human history, people basically were in poverty for all of human history until about 1776.
	And then the great American experiment took off, and so we got to keep that experiment alive.
	And so that's what we did in the tax bill.
	Wages have been flat for 30 to 40 years.
	So the average person back home gets that up in the swamp, where we got cranes all over the place building high rises for rich, you know, the cronies.
	Right.
	But that's the number one most important thing is we're generating economic growth.
	We're already at three percent.
	And then on top of economics.
	Oh, by the way, you don't let's point out we never it wasn't Obama's eight years the only time a president is has been in office that they didn't hit uh three percent growth in either.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And that and and that resulted, you know, not only in President Trump, but Bernie was running on that, right?
	The the economic uh population part.
	Even the Democrats realize, hey, whatever we got, it's not working, and we want to change, and we you know, the cronies are taking care of themselves, but they're not taking care of the American people.
	So the most important part is is the growth, and then we we gave capital back to uh business, right?
	Immediate expensing, and that's the number one source of growth.
	And then out of growth, your kid is gonna have multiple job offerings out there, right?
	It's very hard for your kid to even find a job right now.
	A lot of people left the workforce.
	That's and then on top of that, everybody's gonna get uh some money back.
	Single mom's gonna get over a grand back, a family of four making seventy grand is gonna get two thousand fifty nine dollars back.
	Doesn't it get you that the Democrats say that's no big deal?
	You know, they're that's that's a big deal to people.
	That's a really big deal.
	Well, let me bring Randy in.
	Uh Randy, um from uh what you're hearing, and I know your district got hammered with the hurricane, but uh uh the uh as I understand it, a lot of your constituents, my constituents don't understand how good this is gonna be because of the demagoguery of the other side.
	But uh how can you reassure your constituents uh that this is gonna be good for them?
	Well, uh thank you, Louie, for having us, and David welcome, we're glad you're here with us.
	Uh that's a great question, Louie, and I will tell you that David's exactly on track.
	Uh any time you give the American people their money back, they know what to do with it.
	Yes, a lot of people are hearing the hammering away of the left.
	Uh it's just unbelievable they've still got the you know, throw Paul Ryan throw a grandma over the cliff kind of scenario going on that the Republicans are doing a number on the middle class, doing a number on the old people, gonna do a number on social security, gonna do a number on Medicare, and just on and on and on trying to use the fear factor.
	Most of the people in my district that are paying attention, especially since they're business minded.
	Of course, I owned an air conditioning company for 35 years, sold it last July.
	Most of the people who are paying attention to conservative uh what we would call our values from the Republican Party platform of 2016, who are paying attention and understand how we don't need a bigger government and control of our money.
	We need a smaller government, giving people their money back to spend, invest in the economy.
	They get it.
	There are a number of people though, Louie, who who are frightened by what the left demagoguery has been.
	So they're they're watching very closely.
	Yep.
	Well, Dave, uh you know, I I love uh the dimension you bring to Freedom Caucus meetings with your economic background.
	Uh John Kenneth Galbraith uh I didn't agree with much of anything he said or wrote except that he said um there are two kinds of e can economists, those who don't know and those who don't know they don't know.
	But you you always struck me as somebody that really gets it.
	Um but Steve Moore used to be with Wall Street Journal.
	He he said uh he loved the way I described the corporate tax.
	People are told, oh, don't worry, that's the rich greedy people that uh that pay that corporate tax.
	No corporations, if they don't recoup it from the individuals, their customers, then they don't stay in business.
	So that that uh 35% corporate tax was it it has been the largest tariff that any country puts on its own goods and services.
	It does hurt our com competition around the world, our competitiveness around the world.
	So what do you see happening dropping that to 21%?
	Well, I see what we go ahead, David.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, I I just see what we have, right?
	The market has already had sixty or seventy of its all-time highs.
	We're growing at three percent right now.
	The Federal Reserve says we're gonna grow at four percent coming up.
	The the only problem we have is it w we're living in Orwellian times for real, right?
	JFK, the great Democrat president did what we just did, and it's amazing that we have to defend ourselves for doing what Kennedy said would lift all votes, and you got a huge growth spurt under Kennedy and under Reagan.
	And so we do the same thing Kennedy does, and the left goes apoplectic when Obama proposed to corporate rate change ten years ago.
	And so I mean it really is amazing.
	We're sitting here trying to just explain common sense.
	You don't have to.
	The American people are gonna feel it in one month, they're gonna get bigger paychecks, and it's game over.
	Yeah, Randy, do you see that as being a threat to Democrats that uh that people start noticing that they're doing better this year?
	Well, absolutely.
	We've had eight years of failed economic policies.
	We've got the lowest recovery rate, growth rate, as David pointed out.
	Uh golly, what, in the last seven or eighty years, however long it's been, they're gonna see more in their paychecks.
	They're gonna understand the hypocrisy of Democrats who are making the claim they're decrying the fact that these corporations want to go overseas, uh, but they also want to keep the corporate tax rate at an all-time high.
	You can't have it both ways.
	We want to be competitive with all these countries around the world.
	We want to keep those corporations here, those manufacturing jobs here.
	We want to produce more jobs, and this bill's gonna do that, and as people see that, you know, they're gonna they're gonna start seeing the hypocrisy of the democ the demograph the demographic uh demagoguery of the easy for you to say.
	So yeah, I uh for for sake of for Pete's sakes, huh?
	But yeah, I I absolutely I agree with that, and people are gonna see them for what they are.
	Just a matter of time.
	Well, look, we've got to take a break right now, but uh can y'all b both of y'all hold on and uh we'll come back and take your calls at 800 941 7326.
	Call in and talk to me, Louis Gomert, uh or my brother's Dave Bratt or Randy Weber.
	Uh 800 941 Sean will be right back.
	This is the Sean Hannity show, and I am here with uh Dave Bratt, Congressman from Virginia and Congressman Randy Weber of Texas.
	Uh, let's go to the phone lines.
	Uh Tim in Mississippi, thank you for listening to the Sean Hannity show.
	Well, thank you, Louie, and thank you for all the all you've done since you've been in Washington.
	We've read kind of call.
	Well, sure.
	Well, I understand you have a specific question about uh the tax law.
	Well, I do.
	Uh I've been a CPA for long enough to understand what real tax reform is, and the last real tax reform we had in this country was TEPR 1986 under Ronald Reagan.
	That's right.
	This in no way is tax reform.
	This is just peeling around the edges and trying to placate people.
	And and and I think we needed a tax cut.
	There's no question.
	This is a tax cut.
	But one of the things, and and I have I have voted for one Democrat in my life.
	In 1976, I was young and stupid, and I voted for Jimmy Carter.
	Okay, so it's not like I am a Democrat or a leftist.
	But the Republicans completely controlled this tax bill.
	And and we talk a lot about hypocrisy and and and demagoguery, and the Republicans had it within their power to get rid of the most unconscionable aspect of current tax law, and that is the carry interest provision.
	One point eight billion dollars a year is the tax savings to very high income people who have ordinary income reclassified as capital gains.
	That that in itself is bad enough, because every dollar of that one point eight billion that should be coming out of their pockets is coming out of people who go to work every morning at eight o'clock and work until six or seven o'clock every night.
	And that's unconscionable.
	So the Republicans should have done something about that.
	The question is really this.
	Was the carried interest provision, was that required in order to get McLean and Lindsey Graham and Murkowski and the rest of the leftists that call themselves Republicans to stay on board?
	Or are are the Republicans no different than the Democrats and all they're interested in.
	Let's uh let's say uh Dave Bratt, do you have an answer?
	Yeah, well, I I think you should join us in Congress.
	He's not right on the money.
	President Trump said he wanted to get rid of that, so that tells you the answers is political.
	And then your overarching point uh in terms of tax reform.
	Uh we do have the uh basically the definition of the swamp is spending, right?
	That's the one thing that has not changed ever and has changed this year as well.
	And so you can't do tax fundamental tax reform unless you are willing to take a crack at the spending problem we have up in DC.
	And so unfortunately, we did not get there.
	This year we're promising to look at some of the entitlements, welfare reform, etc.
	Uh, but uh the other comments I think you're spot on.
	Um Randy, you have a comment?
	Well, uh absolutely, Tim is right.
	Uh it's the problem's over in the Senate.
	You know, you're gonna hear the Democrats decry the fact that that the tax provisions uh for individuals weren't made permanent, which they will be extended, just like the Bush tax cuts.
	But what what you're seeing is a Senate where it takes sixty votes to get things done, the Democrats would not work with this at all.
	So we they had to trifle around the edges.
	They had to get people uh over in the Senate uh to agree to things, to vote for things that otherwise in the House, especially the Freedom Caucus, a House Freedom Caucus, we would not agree to, but we understand that the Senate is the problem.
	They don't, there's a number of them, Louis, that you know this that don't support President Trump.
	And so that they need to be supporting Trump.
	They need to be on President Trump's agenda, they need to be doing what the American public uh elected them to do.
	Yeah, Tim, you're very perceptive, and I'm grateful to uh Dave and Randy for being on with us.
	We got a hard break coming up, and uh Tim, man, thank you for paying such close attention.
	Apparently you were exactly right.
	Um it's a shame what we had to do to cater to the Senate to get a bill actually passed.
	But it's a start.
	Some of us are not gonna let it end here.
	But you'll come on back.
	We've got a great show ahead.
	You're gonna love it.
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	I'm Louis Gilmer.
	This is the Sean Hannity show.
	I'm Louis Gomer.
	Obviously, not Sean.
	Don't have that beautiful notes emanating from my mouth like he does.
	But anyway, I'm proud to be here and uh glad you're listening as well.
	You're gonna learn something because we've got some great guests.
	All the guests uh that we're having are from the Freedom Caucus.
	Um, you know, Mark Meadows, Jim Jordan are fantastic.
	They just do an awesome job.
	And uh I'm thrilled to have them as not just friends, but very close friends.
	But you're gonna hear from some folks uh during the course of the show that uh you don't hear from as much.
	Now Andy Biggs of Arizona uh has been on the news.
	I caught Andy this morning on Fox again because he's saying all the right things, and so it's a good thing to get him out.
	And Matt Getz uh from Florida has uh been saying a lot of the right things, so you've seen some of Matt lately, but I'm thrilled to have them on.
	And uh before we get too far past the tax bill we were talking about last let me just do a shout out to Kevin Brady.
	I I think he did a great job negotiating uh with the Senate.
	It was not easy, and uh heck we had a repeal of the Johnson amendment that we didn't talk about it, it was in the House version that passed, repealed the Johnson amendment uh that prevented charitable organizations from being involved in politics at all, and uh changed American history dramatically after the huge role that churches played in the first part.
	But anyway, uh but it didn't make it through the Senate.
	That was one of those things that ended up being left in the trash heap.
	But um Matt Getz and Andy Biggs and I have all been involved in questioning a lot about what's been going on at the Justice Department, and um uh I I just uh have been staggered, as Newt Gingrich uh has said, we didn't know how bad things were until Trump won.
	And if Hillary won, we wouldn't never know the kind of things that we're finding out.
	Um Matt, I mean, it's it's really been an eye-opener for all of us.
	Uh you know, we're on the judiciary committee together, and uh uh what's what's your thought about how is it how did it strike you as we got in deeper and deeper and we found out more and more about how the DOJ had been weaponized?
	Well, you're absolutely right, Louie, and it's great to be on, great to hear you, my friend.
	I've been missing our talks, and now we get to share your mentorship of me with 14 million Americans.
	So what a special thing uh, you know, Louie uh has not only helped me and and my service in the Congress, but a number of the newer members look to Louie for conservative leadership and guidance.
	And uh I hey man, I gotta say it, it's absolutely the truth.
	This is Hannity Radio, baby.
	We gotta tell the truth.
	I'm telling you, though, you have been uh actually quite an inspiration to me.
	You come in, you're ready to take on anybody that's disrupting the country, and I love it.
	I love it.
	I'm glad you're there.
	But but I'm telling you, you had to have been shocked, Matt, when you we started getting answers to some of our questions about what had been going on in the last four years at the DOJ.
	I was.
	And and I think the threshold moment in all of this, Louie, was when Congressman Andy Biggs and Jim Jordan and yourself and Mike Johnson of Louisiana and I came together and said, We are tired of the Democrats telling lies to the American people that it was Donald Trump colluding with Russia.
	To this day, there is no evidence of that whatsoever.
	And so we started pointing out the truth.
	That it was actually the DNC making payments to a company that, by the way, was employing a senior DOJ official's wife to then go and pay Russians to tell lies about President Trump.
	And when we did that the first time in the Judiciary Committee, and we said, We're done playing defense, we're going to start playing offense.
	I think everything turned around.
	And today, Louie, 54% of the American people, according to a Harvard poll.
	So you know it's got to be better than that.
	But at 54% according to a Harvard poll, agree with you and I, agree with Andy Biggs that the Mueller investigation is riddled with conflicts of interest.
	And my belief is that an investigation that is conflicted could never result in any meaningful prosecution.
	I mean, your time on the bench would I think inform a lot of our listeners that if you've got bad motives and bad people and bad facts surrounding the reasons why people are persecuting someone, you could never get a conviction in a circumstance like that.
	It would be a defense lawyer's dream.
	And so I'm glad we've been able to tell the truth about the conflicts of interest at the FBI and Department of Justice, about the extent to which those folks were absolutely pulling for Hillary Clinton to win.
	I mean, Andrew Weisman, who's the number two to Mueller, actually went to the Hillary Clinton non victory party.
	And if she had won, they'd all gotten big jobs and big promotions, and they'd have been able to do whatever they wanted, and we would have never known about uranium one.
	We would have never known about the fusion GPS dossier paid for by Democrats.
	Well, and by the way, those those uh the prior cases that involved Uranium One, where we had an undercover uh agent, I say we, the FBI was using an undercover person, uh he wasn't I guess an agent, but they had somebody on the inside, and uh Rosenstein, deputy attorney general Rosenstein's name is right there, or he goes by Rosenstein.
	His name was right there on the motion to seal all those records, uh, and the judge signed off.
	All right, you want them sealed, and and so we can't see some of the records uh or any of the records from those cases that were sealed that involved the Russia one investigation.
	But Andy, I think both you and Matt have come to Congress after uh Mueller went off as uh FBI director, isn't that right?
	That's correct, Louie.
	Yes, so you you never have a chance to question Mueller.
	But uh when back first the year when uh Jeff Sessions was talked into recusing himself because he said he was advised by all of the career guys.
	Well, he didn't realize, I didn't realize that these career guys he put a lot of stock in were such hard-driving Democrats that had a political agenda, just like James Comey did when he talked John Ashcroft into recusing himself uh so that Comey could get his best friend back then, uh dear friend at least, uh godfather of one of his kids, uh Patrick Fitzgerald appointed as special prosecutor back then.
	But uh but so when Mueller was appointed, and we had all these Republican leaders saying, Oh, that's great, he'll be fair.
	And we we still got some that are saying, Oh, he'll be uh nonpartisan.
	That's garbage.
	This guy has been a problem.
	He destroyed the FBI, he ran off thousands of years of experience because he wanted nothing but young yes men.
	He couldn't stand the truth, he couldn't handle the truth, and so he ran folks off that had more experience that could have helped him avoid some of the pitfalls he got the FBI into.
	And uh then you look at things like he had been involved in railroading Ted Stevens, he was the FBI director when that debacle happened, and somebody from the Justice Department, FBI should have gone to prison for what they did to Ted Stevens.
	Totally created a case where none exists, kept all of the evidence away from him, and uh so he couldn't defend himself.
	And then they they uh convict him the week before the election, he loses by a few thousand votes, and then he dies seventeen months later in a plane crash he wouldn't have been in if um he had been re-elected.
	So oh, and and then we don't want to forget the anthrax case.
	Bush even called Mueller and Comey to his office where you had to report and said, Are you sure this is the guy?
	Because it really doesn't there doesn't seem to be any evidence.
	Mueller assured him he he was the guy, this was a guy.
	No evidence other than when uh the guy they were going after uh reached down and petted the dogs, they said, Well, the dog may have alerted, so that's why we think he's there was no evidence, and they went after the wrong guy and destroyed his life.
	Muller doesn't mind destroying lives uh unfairly.
	But um So what do you have uh Andy to tell the American people about what you've learned about the Justice Department that needs fixing.
	Well, first of all, Louie, I just want to say that it it is an honor to be with you today and honor to serve with you.
	Uh you're a conservative conservative, there's no doubt about it.
	And and then also it's a great honor to serve with Matt um and and uh and Jim.
	And I I will tell you what, uh friends, there's there's no there's no uh you you got some people who are unafraid with Matt Gates and Louis Gomer and Jim Jordan and and the Freedom Caucus, because we're we're willing to get in there and and and fight the fight and mix it up.
	And so let me let me tell you what uh what astonishes me, and it astonishes me yet, is that people are saying that Robert Mueller uh we should leave him alone because he's a war hero.
	Well, I don't dispute he's a war hero, but what he's done here is he has exhibited incredible at bare minimum negligence, and I think it's far greater than that.
	He has done no vetting of his team, and this team is so biased.
	There's such a conflict of interest there that there is uh little chance that anybody is going to get a fair uh investigation.
	So when Matt starts uh talking about uh some of these people like Weinstein, these people were donors to the Democrats, but not little donors.
	I mean, it's okay to be a Democrat or Republican and be an agent.
	But when you are unfairly biased, then it gives the appearance of corruption in the highest aspects of our Department of Justice.
	But what got you you and Matt and uh all of us motivated was we saw the evidence of that bias.
	No.
	That's what there's not supposed to be.
	Your political positions are not supposed to affect your job when your job is justice.
	And right, you're supposed to come into you're not supposed to come in with a predetermined outcome.
	And that's what they came in with.
	The problem for them is they they can't even really manufacture the evidence.
	They've exceeded their scope.
	They were supposed to determine if there was Russian collusion or uh uh Trump collusion with the Russians in in the election.
	They're far beyond that now.
	And they're trying to come up with these charges just so they can leverage people to try to come up with with uh basically a fake fake case.
	And that's what we see here.
	It's outrageous.
	And until uh Attorney General Sessions goes in and uh starts clearing out these upper management long-term hub of the spokes.
	These guys are the hubs of the spokes.
	Rosenstein, Muller, Comey, McCabe.
	These guys are the hubs of that spoke that is controlling these directed outcomes for political reasons.
	And they the the first thing was to exonerate Hillary Clinton, which they manufactured that, and then the second thing is to come in and try to uh delegitimize and if possible, bring uh criminal charges against uh the president of the United States.
	Matt, what was Matt, let me ask you what what did you see as the biggest outrage?
	There are just so many to choose from.
	Well, when my constituents saw emails from Andrew McCabe saying that Hillary Clinton was going to be getting special treatment, that she got a headquarters special, that it wouldn't be the normal process that any other American would face who deals with classified information, they were outraged.
	You know, Louie and Andy, you guys know that I represent a very uh heavy military district where my constituents have to deal with classified information as part of their daily lives, and they all know how serious that is.
	And the notion that you have someone in the senior level of our government saying that someone's gonna get special treatment because they are a candidate for president, it really erodes our sense that there is a rule of law that applies equally to everyone.
	So I would say that evidence was smoking gun evidence of disparate treatment for Hillary Clinton.
	And then when you saw the very people like Peter Strzok migrate from the Clinton investigation over to the Mueller probe, I think you start to see a very clear picture of the coordination going on to support Hillary Clinton and to undermine the duly elected president of the United States.
	Now getting thrown out of office at what the trying.
	We got a hard break.
	Uh, hope y'all both can hang on, and we'll be back.
	And Wade, we're gonna take your question when you come back.
	God bless you, you've been hanging on from Vermont.
	We'll be with you when we come back.
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	This is Louis Gomert sitting in, and I have guests uh Freedom Caucus fellow members, uh Matt Getz and Andy Biggs.
	Um let's go to Wade.
	You have a question.
	Thank you.
	You've got patience, unbelievable, Wade in Vermont.
	Uh what's your question for us?
	Hey, Mr. Gomer, I appreciate you.
	Uh well, thanks, Wade.
	But you know, everyone I know was so excited when President Trump was elected that we might see the swamp drained in the world.
	In Vermont, they were all excited.
	Do you think we will ever see any indictments for uranium one, the Clinton Foundation, pay for play?
	And then the second part of my question is, do you think we'll ever see a bill put forward for term limits?
	Well, uh Matt, you want to take the first part of that question.
	Andy, you can come back on the next.
	Sure.
	If boy, if we gave uh, you know, Louis Gilmert and a few of us on the Judiciary Committee indictment power, we'd be real dangerous.
	Right now, that power lies with the Department of Justice.
	And the fear I have is that our attorney general, while he's doing great work on immigration and great work on free speech on college campuses, is not giving the bribes and the risk created by the corruption at the Clinton Foundation the attention that it that it absolutely deserves.
	And so we uh Louis Gilmert and Andy Biggs and Jim Jordan and about 20 members of the House Judiciary Committee signed a letter to the Attorney General saying we want a second special counsel to evaluate the Clinton Foundation and the real risk that we may have in this country going forward if we don't find out who was bribed and what they did.
	And so we've called for that.
	Unfortunately, the Attorney General has not agreed with us, and we keep making the case each and every day to the American people that this is essential to draining the swamp.
	I don't believe the American people will trust that we have truly drained the swamp until we address the corruption that was clearly evident in the Clinton Foundation.
	You think we'll have term limits?
	I'd like to see it.
	Yeah, let's can I Louis, I just want to address what something Matt said.
	You just got five seconds.
	Yeah, I'll just do it real fast.
	And that and that is this.
	Um the uh attorney general sessions promised that if the inspector general said they were irregularities, which we know, and the inspector generals already said they would have to the Sean Hannity show.
	This is Louis Gomer sitting in for Sean, and uh we're glad to have you here.
	We have had a great show.
	You've been hearing from folks who are members of the Freedom Caucus, and uh I've got a great couple of guests now.
	Dear Dear friends.
	Um Paul Gosar from Arizona.
	Um course you heard from Andy Biggs from Arizona, and Andy is back with us because uh hard break cut off his answer.
	But we also been joined by uh Georgia Congressman Jody Heis.
	Andy, your your thought got cut off.
	Would you mind finishing that for us?
	You bet and I'll just say hi to Polly and Joe uh and Jody real quick.
	But let me just tell you the question with regard to indictments on Hillary Clinton and and her and her gang, we were promised by Director Sessions and by Director Ray of the FBI in my questioning in the judiciary, if the inspector general said there were anomalies, which we know there were, that they would reopen the investigation, and that could lead to indictments.
	And that's what I wanted to get out is that there I still believe there's hope because you should not be immune from criminal conduct just because you lost an election.
	And then the second question is I think it's going to be a long time coming before you get term limits uh simply because you do empower special interests, you empower lobbyists, you empower uh bureaucrats and staff um uh rather than the elected officials and they're unaccountable.
	Elected officials at least are somewhat accountable as we see.
	But Louis good being with you.
	Thanks for having me.
	Thank you, Andy thanks for coming on.
	And one other thought uh I I went to Congress.
	I didn't uh run on uh term limits but I always believed they were a good idea.
	But it became very clear to me when I got to Congress holy cow the bureaucrats are already running this place.
	We're gonna have term limits.
	They need to be not only we we need 'em on uh people in Congress, House Senate, and um also we need them on bureaucrats.
	Uh somebody that's in charge has got to have a limit because they already are running things so much more than the elected officials.
	That is so totally out of whack.
	But we're also joined like I say, uh Paul Gosar, very dear friend from Arizona.
	I've had the honor of going out to Arizona and um uh campaigning for and with Paul and Jody Heiss uh of Georgia dear friends and brothers in the in the effort and I thought if y'all wouldn't mind Jody and Paul, we would go straight to the calls we got a whole stack of them people been very patient.
	Um let's see we've got uh Joe in Winston Salem, North Carolina.
	You have a question for Paul Gosar, Jody Heiss and me, Louis Gormitt?
	Hi Louie, how are you?
	How far is I'm okay.
	Um I moved out of New York.
	I got basically taxed out of New York where I grew up uh about eleven years ago and love living in North Carolina but most of my friends are liberals and I feel like the last conservative standing.
	Even in North Carolina Pardon me even in North Carolina Well let me last conservative standing on Facebook and emails.
	Oh I see what you're saying yeah I grew up in New York so I still have a lot of connections up there.
	And uh we argue all the time on Facebook and emails uh and I argue the benefits of the tax cut.
	I argue the benefits um of Trump.
	I argue that Russia gate is nothing I talk about uh Christopher Steele and the made up uh dossier and one of the things they come back at me at is how come his approval ratings are so low and other than saying probably the same polls that said Hillary would win in a landslide I've never seen polls saying how popular Trump is and I believe he is I believe he's gonna be with us for eight years.
	But how do I answer that?
	Well, Paul, you have a response.
	I think it's a great question, Louie, and Merry Christmas, Louie.
	It's great to be on.
	You know, Donald Trump has set records for raising money for the Republican base.
	That should show you the proudness of the president-in-chief.
	When you look at where he goes, it's vivacious crowds that follow him.
	And so, you know, people are tired of polls because you can get polls to tell you whatever you would like to I'm a dentist in real life and I understand statistics and I phrase questions to get the desired outcomes.
	Um so I would tend to tell you with the money that he's raised um the crowds that he entertains the forgotten men and women are going to follow him all the way through eight years.
	Well and and it point I think needs to be made uh Tom DeLay told me this uh some years ago he said you know it's so amazing people always think oh if somebody's rich they're Republican but uh the Democrats have many more ultra rich people than Republicans Do.
	And so often uh the people that have started a business or in business and they've things are rolling, they're afraid that uh they'll make somebody politically mad, so they don't want to give too much.
	And he said it's a lot harder to get people um who are conservative to donate than it is to get uh these ultra-liberal left.
	I mean, you think of all the billionaires or millionaires, uh it you just seem to have a whole lot more Democrats very actively involved, never mind that they've made their billion.
	They're out there trying to keep you from making your billion with more and more government.
	But um Jody, I mean, you you you have people attack you even from Georgia, I do from Texas.
	How do you respond uh when you get to feeling like Joe has?
	Yeah, you know, I we all get attacked.
	Uh that's the environment in which we're living in, but you know, the the truth never tells a lie.
	And you look at what's happening right now, in spite of a constant barrage of negative from the media and from the left, this president and and those who are supporting him continue to move forward the agenda that this president stands for.
	The tax bill is a huge example, and quite frankly, uh uh thousands of people said it could never happen.
	It hadn't happened in over thirty years, uh, but it finally got over the the gold line.
	People are going to see tax breaks.
	The American uh economy and the economic engine is about to boom, the likes of which none of us have seen before.
	And you know, when people start seeing more money in their pocketbooks and their the economy growing, I think that's going to quiet a lot of the skeptics uh, in spite of the fact that they're still screaming.
	And the sky, the sky's not falling in uh from that perspective.
	Sir, we have a lot of problems, a lot of issues to deal with.
	But I think in the long run, what this president ran on and what he is accomplishing is going to speak for itself, and the people will come along to support it.
	Well, this for those just tuning in, Louis Gomert here with uh members of Congress, Paul Gosar, Jody Heis have Joe from North Carolina.
	I tell you, Joe, I think the Democrats have done themselves a lot of dan damage by being as overt about how bad the tax bill is gonna.
	I mean, Schumer's down on the Senate floor when we were meeting to talk about what we should have in the uh tax bill, and he was already condemning that we were taking from the poor and giving to the rich when it was just a bunch of baloney.
	You're gonna see the economy improve, and people are gonna find out what they've been saying about the tax bill is just not true.
	And I think they're at some risk.
	I would predict by this summer you're gonna be having Democrats wanting to talk about anything but the economy.
	Well, but Paul, I know you're the one that first drew me uh drew attention uh to an issue that has also been hurting us in the area of health care insurance, not health care, but health care insurance, which has affected health care.
	But uh that back uh when it 1947 when uh 45, was it 45 when they were given an exemption uh out from under antitrust laws?
	So it's okay, you can monopolize.
	If you're a health insurance company, you can go ahead and monopolize.
	It's okay.
	And uh you pushed and and I although I I think Paul, I got up and said even more than you did.
	Paul Gosar has the bill we need to take up, and that's gonna end the exemption for these health insurance companies from the antitrust laws.
	Uh they can they're allowed to monopolize.
	Um we passed that with your leadership in the House, uh, and it was over 400 votes, wasn't it?
	Uh 416 to 7, Louie.
	And the seven weren't even against it.
	Uh the six six members from the Congressional Black August wanted John Conyers to get the credit who would carry the water for a long time.
	And the seventh was one of my colleagues right here from Arizona, Ruby Gallego, who just saw my name and voted against me.
	And it took he left the floor and he had to write a dissertation on why he was really for the bill.
	But, Paul, you know if the Senate would take that up, that would pass by huge numbers.
	So why do you think the Senate is not willing to take up this bill to end the monopolies that health insurance companies?
	They can, when these new energetic entrepreneurs come up with new ways to address health care needs, they can get swarmed over by a monopolizing health insurance company.
	Don't you think the Senate would pass it just as big as we did?
	Well, it would be because I guarantee you there's not a.
	senator that would vote for the insurance industry over their constituents particularly if they're running for re-election that would be a vote that would haunt them forever.
	And by the way, Louie, I actually had a promise uh a promise that we would get a vote on the Senate floor.
	And uh so uh we need to honor our promises.
	Trust is a series of promises kept and uh you know we're running a little thin with leadership in regards uh to the Senate so we want to see Mitch McConnell because the the unbelievable opportunities that exist because when you have insurance companies owning the doctors, the service area and hospitals in the area that's truly called a monopoly and we see prices go down and more services and more opportunities and ideas uh to fluctuate in the marketplace when everybody has to compete against each other.
	It makes a big deal.
	It also lowers premiums on on insurance it also lowers drug costs and hospital stays.
	And isn't that interesting those were the three biggies that won from Obamacare.
	If you took a dollar and invested in hospitals before Obamacare you're eight and a half times uh more wealthy you're 17 times more wealthy with insurance companies and we can't calculate what you would be with the pharmaceuticals.
	Yeah.
	Well we've got to take a break but uh uh hopefully poll Paul Gosar and Jody Heiss will stay with us and we'll be right back with more of your questions.
	Thanks so much.
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	I'm Louis Gomert sitting in for Sean and I have with me a couple of great brothers in our effort to get our freedom back Paul Gosar, Jody Heiss uh and uh let's uh Jody why don't you take this question uh from Jim from Tampa, Florida.
	Thanks for listening to Sean's show.
	Uh Jim, you know something I I have read the Communist Manifesto.
	I did a lot of looking at it back in college days and uh you've reminded me something I have forgotten for many years.
	Uh what can you tell us about the manifesto?
	Okay and the McCommunist Manifesto in chapter two Platform two if you read it it is our graduated tax system like we have now and what they say it was put in place to control the people pure and simple.
	Wow and uh this is why we need to go to as everybody knows a flat tax period.
	I love that.
	In fact, Jody is from Georgia.
	The well, I guess.
	Fair tax.
	Yeah.
	Both of the proponents of the fair tax were from Georgia.
	What is your thought, Jody?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	You control people's money.
	You control their lives and you control their lives.
	You control their freedom and the amount of freedom they have or do not have.
	And that's exactly what a confiscatory tax system does which is what we have had and to what some to some extent we'll continue to have until we do go to a flat tax or some sort of consumption tax.
	That's why I totally support the fair tax because it's based on uh you pay in taxes based upon how much you you purchase and that type of thing.
	You know I think we've moved a step closer towards tax simplicity with the tax bill that was just passed.
	It was not as simple as I would like certainly not even as simple as the original House version which had three categories as opposed to seven which we have now eight if you include zero but it is a step in the direction of simplicity and that um you know you're still going to have they say up to ninety percent of the people will be able to fill their taxes out on the on the size of a postcard.
	I hope that's true.
	We'll wait and see.
	But listen I couldn't agree with Jim anymore.
	Taxes uh as it currently is is a set up for loss of freedom and individual rights.
	We've seen that.
	I mean, look at uh just uh churches since the Johnson amendment back in the 50s said, you know, uh charitable organization including churches could not participate in politics without threatening their contribution.
	You had preachers for the first time in American history going, oh my word, we better not get involved in expressing our political feelings, no matter how biblically based.
	And of course, you're sensitive to that.
	Paul, we got 30 seconds.
	You want to finish uh your thoughts on that?
	I I I think it's a great comment, but uh just take it from this aspect is that uh times have changed and we can't do a one and done, uh, as Jody said.
	You know, this is a step in the right direction.
	Um, but what we have to do is continually look at that progression of making sure people keep more money in their in their pockets um because we don't have a revenue problem in in Washington, D.C. We got a spending problem.
	So we want to empower the people.
	That's it.
	This is a Sean Hannity show.
	We will be right back with more of the Sean Hannity show.
	I'm Louie Gomer.
	This is the Sean Hannity show.
	I'm Louie Gomert sitting in for Sean, and uh awfully proud to be doing so.
	It's nice to be here.
	And we have had uh guests from the Freedom Caucus, and I gotta say it was Sean Hannity that did more to talk me into joining the Freedom Caucus than even Mark Meadows or Jim Jordan, and uh I'm so glad he did.
	Uh just a great bunch of folks.
	And uh we're joined by uh two of those, uh Ron DeSantis, uh Congressman from Florida, and also Tom Garrett, uh Congressman from Virginia.
	Guys, welcome to the Sean Hannity show.
	Howdy, Louis, how are you?
	Happy New Year.
	Well, thank you.
	I heard Tom and I heard Ron.
	I tell you what, guys, we have a bunch of people who are calling in.
	Uh let's go to Jerry in Kansas City.
	Ron, why don't you take this first question?
	Sure.
	Uh Jerry, welcome.
	Glad you're listening to Sean Hannity show, and thank you for your patience.
	Well, thank you, uh, gentlemen for serving.
	Uh my question, although it I'm not sure exactly uh the potential of it could happen, but my question is is there any way that Bill Clinton could have negotiated on Hillary's behalf a presidential pardon that nobody is aware of that if she gets indicted, she could pull that out and use it.
	What do you think, Ryan?
	Well, I mean, there i there i i that can't happen unless it's already been issued uh by Obama.
	Um and and there would be a record of that.
	So I don't think that that is is likely.
	I do think what likely happened when he met with Loretta uh Lynch on the tarmac, the infamous tarmac meeting at the Phoenix Airport, right before the decision not to indict Hillary.
	Um I think he told Loretta, hey, you know, be so great.
	Hillary gets beyond this.
	We'd love to have you stay as attorney general.
	Um and we're working.
	I hope the IG report shed some light on that.
	Uh but they were not talking about grandkids for 30 minutes.
	I can tell you that.
	That's no, no, and my thing is Loretta.
	Again, her arrogance of you know, that like none of this is gonna touch her, just makes me wonder what does she know that we don't know.
	Well, I think that the arrogance you saw was her believing what everybody was telling her, she was gonna win, and gee, it seems like the more appearances you make, you know, people s think you wouldn't be a good president, so maybe let's just keep you away from the press.
	Let's keep you out of the uh eyes of the beholders and voters, and uh, because you've got this wrapped up.
	Uh what do you think, Tom Garrett?
	I don't think Loretta Lynch has any grandchildren, and I believe Hillary and Bill have one.
	So I think 30 minutes of grandchild conversation sure surely would take the word doting to a new level.
	Uh no, uh Ron's probably a better lawyer than me.
	Louie, you were a judge, but uh you can't do the get out of the jail free card.
	That doesn't work in real life.
	Although if it did exist, Bill Clinton would probably have one.
	Well, but but like Ron was saying, he would have had to have done that before he left office.
	Once he leaves office as president, it's too late for him to put it.
	And the thing is, Louie, yeah.
	The thing is is they knew the whole time, as long as Obama was president, they knew she wasn't gonna get indicted.
	I mean, that just wasn't gonna happen.
	And I think when Trump won, part of the reason they were so shocked is because I think they looked at this and they said, you know what, a lot of the stuff that's happened, there's now a chance that that's all going to be exposed.
	And so we didn't do enough in the Congress first six or seven months, but we have been digging now, and the inspector general is digging.
	So I think the first two or three months of the year, um, I think there's going to be even more revelations about how they handled the Hillary case, going all the way into how they've handled this Russia collusion with people like Peter Strzok saying that they can't let Trump win and they need an insurance policy.
	And it's going to cause uh a need to really have some changes in leadership in those agencies, I think.
	Well, I I didn't realize how bad things had gotten until we started finding out more and more about uh uh even text between uh Paramount and the um uh actual leader in the Department of Justice.
	It's just uh really unfathomable that people were were taking that their politics and causing that to mean not justice, but just um yeah, go ahead.
	Louis, I served in the military under President Clinton, and I saw the purse begin then where they stopped having a meritocracy and started replacing political ideologues and positions of power.
	It's obviously infiltrated the Justice Department.
	Peter Strzok was mentioned uh I don't want to call it or a paramour.
	These are the people who were cheating on their spouses.
	If you can't be loyal to your spouse, then you can't be loyal to your country or your oath.
	And so Tom, you remember what they did with the guy who is who is b i involved in infidelity, they made him in charge of their human resources.
	Like he's an expert on on human uh resources uh because of his infidelity experience, apparently.
	I mean, it's just incredible.
	But Louie, let me say this.
	The the second most infamous text between those two clowns was one, I think I represent Southside Virginia, and one text said I'm in a south side Virginia Walmart.
	I can smell the Trump voters.
	It's disgusting.
	Well, let me tell you something.
	Were you in that Walmart?
	I might have been in the same Walmart.
	I think I could smell him.
	Anyway, uh you know, it's mind-numbing uh what w how how you know there's no deep state, it's just a high level bureaucratic straight state where we've had appointment after appointment after appointment, not based on merit, but based on political loyalty, and this is how it manifests itself.
	This is the guy who said we should call Clinton investigation a matter because gross negligent has legal meaning.
	Yeah, I don't think Hillary was worried about it because they she figures you know, no way she could lose, and all of this stuff they were doing would never come to light because you know it's just unthinkable in their minds that Donald Trump could be president, but thank God for the the American voters.
	People like Strzok are dangerous because there's a bureaucratic arrogance that you see with some of the permanent bureaucracy in Washington, and you know, it's supposed to be we're a government of by and for the people, the people in the government work for the American people.
	They think that the American people work for them.
	I mean, they think that that they are kind of above it all, and I think his arrogance when he was criticizing Tom's constituents in in Virginia, the Walmart shoppers and Trump supporters, uh I think was perfectly indicative of that.
	I think that they have contempt for uh vast swaths of the American people, and um when it influences your job, you know, that is a major, major problem.
	So uh I'm glad this has come out.
	I think there's gonna be more that come out, though.
	I don't think we've reached the bottom here.
	Well, Ron Ron DeSantis, uh uh I you make such a great point.
	I I just couldn't believe that kind of arrogance.
	Uh I mean, I I still think of people that serve in the federal government, especially in the Justice Department.
	I know so many uh FBI agents around the country, and I mean they don't think that way, that they can smell another political supporter uh in a Walmart.
	Are you kidding me?
	It's just unfathomable almost that there were people in the Justice Department that were thinking like that.
	And so Tom, I was uh I I don't live in Southern Virginia, but I was as offended by that as anything I've seen.
	Well, I was I would throw this out for perspective, though.
	I would wager that George III thought that the American colonists were deplorable too.
	And I'm and I don't need to refresh to know who won that one.
	We need to assert our rights.
	We need to serve the people and not have the people serve us.
	That's the genesis of this.
	That's why Washington's uh resigning his commission as one of the eight portrait species in the return of the Capitol, because no person's bigger than the people they serve.
	Tom, it's such a that's what this freedom caucus is all about.
	Well, that's such a great point.
	That's Tom Garrett, Congressman for Virginia.
	And that's that's one of the important things that's been lost, the more we see.
	And New Gingrich has made the point that if Hillary had won, we would never have known how deep the state was, how deep the swamp was, how big the snakes were that were swimming around and and biting people.
	We we would not have known.
	None of this stuff would have come out.
	So I I'm grateful to be serving with both of you.
	Ron, uh, what do you see that we still need to do in this investigation?
	Oh man, I mean, look at Bruce Orr.
	He was one of the top ranking officials in the Obama Justice Department.
	He's meeting with the author of the dossier, Christopher Steele, during the election.
	Orr's wife was working for Fusion GPS, uh, the company that commissioned the dossier with the Democrats' money.
	Uh, he needs to be brought in, deposed under oath.
	Uh, because the more and more I think about this, this whole collusion narrative, I think it's based solely on that dossier.
	I think Strzok opened a counterintelligence investigation based off which is essentially warmed over fake opposition research.
	Um, and that's a confluence of the Democratic Party with the Obama Justice Department against an opposing candidate.
	Uh, we've never seen that before.
	Uh that's very troubling if true, but that's I think where this is headed.
	Uh, once we bring in Orr, once we bring in Strzok and put him under oath.
	Well, those are good points.
	We got to take a break.
	I hope y'all will stay with me.
	That's Ron DeSantis uh and Tom Garrett, Congressman from Florida and Virginia, respectively.
	And Tom, I want to get your thoughts when we come back on what should be done.
	Is folks, there's a lot we need to do.
	This is the Sean Hannity show.
	I'm Louis Gomerts and for Sean.
	We'll be right back.
	Right, this is the Sean Hannity Show.
	I'm Louis Gomer with guests uh fellow members of Congress, Ron DeSantis of Florida, Congressman Tom Garrett of Virginia, and uh Jason is the engineer here at the Sean Hannity show, and it's so cool when he says stand by and then go.
	All right.
	So Tom, uh, when we took a break, uh, we had just heard from Ron.
	What are your thoughts following up?
	Well, look, I mean, Watergate was a botched burglary by a bunch of people who didn't work for the United States government.
	The cover look, I know of one president who took a half a million dollars from the Russians, and his name was Bill Clinton.
	We have a problem fulfilling our own uranium needs, and I know who approved the transfer of 20% of the uranium that we mine in this country to the Russians, and her name was Hillary Clinton.
	If there was collusion, and I gotta give the hat tip to the left, it's brilliant because they've essentially accused the Trump administration of that which there's an overwhelming amount of evidence, I would say surpassing probable cause to indicate that they actually did.
	So uh I just if the American people will step up and wake up, uh there's something to be learned here.
	Now, look, I'm not a sycophant for the president.
	Sometimes his messaging makes me a little crazy.
	Um, but I do think that we've done great things.
	We've had sixteen times the number of uh regulatory removal acts.
	The CRA has been used sixteen times more in the last year than was the previous 30.
	Um this tax cut, I'm not gonna call it tax reform, uh, has put more money in the American people's pockets in in one fell swoop than anything, even adjusted for inflation in over 30 years.
	Um so we're on the right track, and that's referenced and and sort of reflected in the fact that it there was a poll that came out recently that shows President Trump's approval numbers.
	Now wait for it.
	Identical at the same time in his first year as the Saints had one, Barack Obama.
	So we just need to do what Gordon Liddy said going back around to Watergate.
	If you can achieve uh if you can overcome the fear of death, then you can achieve the death of fear.
	We need to know do what we know is right, not worry about political calculations.
	That's called leadership.
	And I think there's one place it's coming from in Washington.
	It's guys like you, Louie, and and guys like Ron.
	It's just a delight to get to work with you all as bad as the swamp is.
	There are some rays of light, and we want to try to be those.
	Well, uh, thanks, Tom Garrett.
	And Ron DeSandis, I tell you going back to what Tom is saying about their collusion with the Russians on this uranium one thing and the 145 million dollars that flowed to the uh Clinton Foundation.
	You know, something I noticed.
	I was on the bench as a judge back then during the 90s when Clinton was president, but it seemed like he basically perfected the ability to take any wrongdoing in which you were engaged and blame your opponent for the very thing you were doing.
	Had you noticed that there are some Democrats that are good at doing that?
	Well, I don't they didn't call him slick Willie for nothing, but yeah, you're right.
	Look, during the time of the Uranium One deal, the the chairman and CEO, uh a guy named Ian Teflar, who was the chairman and CEO of Uranium One, he sent 2.3 million dollars to the Clinton Foundation during the pendency of this deal.
	Hillary did not disclose that, which she was required to do per her agreement with President Obama, uh, and that was a precondition for her being Secretary of State that that would be disclosed.
	They did not disclose that.
	Peter Schweitzer got it from the Canadian government.
	That's the only reason we know about that.
	Um and so, but look, the the news out of the Justice Department that they're now investigating this, I think it's positive.
	I mean, we're doing it in the Congress, but we're not going to be able to indict anyone.
	So if there was criminal misconduct, the only place you can do that is the Justice Department.
	And so I think finally we've turned the corner on this and we'll get the American people the answers.
	And hopefully, if people did wrong, they're held accountable.
	Well, that's that's a great point.
	Um let's take a quick question.
	We've only got uh about a minute and a half, but uh Will in California, uh, you have a question, and uh I'll get uh response from Ron and Tom.
	Go ahead.
	Will you're on the Sean Hannity show?
	Glad to have you.
	Uh nice to speak with you.
	You my question is Barack Obama was guilty of illegally running guns through Benghazi to arm enemy ISIS forces in Syria, specifically stinger missiles, uh, without congressional approval.
	Or was that done with congressional approval?
	And if it was the former, is that not treason?
	And what are you, as a U.S. Congressman and a conservatives conservative, going to do about charging the appropriate people with the appropriate cranks?
	Great question, Ron.
	Well, uh, so there was a big Benghazi select committee that investigated all this.
	Now I was not on that.
	Uh neither I don't think you guys were either.
	Um they did the reports.
	Uh there was a lot of people that weren't satisfied with that, but that was kind of Congress's swing at it, uh, whether you like it or not.
	Now, in terms of any criminal conduct, you know, that's going to be something that the Justice Department is going to have to do.
	I mean, we in the Congress, because of separation of powers, we make the law.
	We're gonna we got a hard break.
	We're going out.
	That's Ron DeSantis and Tom Garrett, members of Congress.
	We'll be right back with more of the Sean Hannity show.
	This is the Sean Hannity show.
	I'm Louie Gomert, uh lowly legislator from Texas.
	And uh, I just want to finish up on Will's question because it was very insightful about gun running because uh, you know, we heard, gee, uh there were guns that the United States, uh Obama sent, uh, that actually helped some of our enemies in Libya, but there was an effort we heard uh to gather up some of those weapons we sent to Libya and ship them to Syria.
	Uh never mind that the one people they were going to ship them to in Syria kept letting them fall into the hands of ISIS.
	But uh I was so troubled after several months of Boehner not allowing us to have an independent uh committee look into Benghazi.
	And so at conference I got up and I said, Look, I have been urging you to appoint a special committee to look into Benghazi, and then I realized, well, maybe you knew about this gun running operation, and if you did, you don't want an investigation that would reveal that you knew, because then it might hurt our party the way Pelosi hurt her party when she swore she didn't know anything about waterboarding, and it turned out she did, and she approved it.
	So I'm asking you, did you know there was weapons being provided to Libya that were being collected to be shipped to Syria before Benghazi happened?
	And he said, Look, Louie, we can look into Benghazi without getting into any of that.
	And I said, answer my question.
	If you tell me you knew and approved of this beforehand, I will never bring this up again.
	I will not push for committee any further up, but I need to know.
	And he said, and I'm telling you we can look into Benghazi without getting into that other stuff.
	And I said, You still haven't answered my question.
	He said, I think I have.
	And I actually think that he did answer my question, that is, I think.
	So if that helps you, that uh and then after that he eventually pointed a committee, but they really didn't get into it as deeply as uh they might should have.
	Maybe that would have exposed who did approve the gun running operation that resulted in Benghazi and heroes like um Tyrone Woods giving his life for others if the CI had been more um self-aware, it wouldn't have had to happen either.
	But I am joined now by a couple of other dear friends from the House Freedom Caucus, David Swikert, great congressman from Arizona.
	Uh he worked very hard on uh getting to the bottom of what was good and what was not good in the tax bill, and my friend Ted Yoho, who was a a co-conspirator and helping to get to 29 votes.
	We nearly got there.
	Heck, if uh all the people that had promised to vote against Boehner had done that, uh, he would not have been speaker as of January of twenty fifteen.
	But uh guys, welcome to the Sean Hannity show.
	Glad to have you guys on.
	Uh David, uh we've had we've had some talking about uh the tax plan, and uh one one caller was saying, gee, even in North Carolina, his where he came from before that, New York, people were just all down on the tax proposal.
	What uh what uh what's your thought about the what's gonna happen uh this year as a result of that?
	Louis, you know, uh and hi, Ted.
	Um do you do you remember the nineteen eighty-six that we'll call it the Reagan tax revolution when they rewrote much of the tax code back thirty-one years ago.
	You know, when that passed, it had only an eighteen percent approval rate.
	Oh, I didn't realize that.
	Oh, yeah, only eight so this is not uncommon when you do a big complicated piece of legislation and you have the other side spend day and night saying crazy things about it.
	You also now are seeing a lot of the Democrats and a lot of the hard left, which just made up stories, now slowly retracting those, slowly stripping them off their website.
	Um because the American people are catching them saying, Yeah, you know, uh why would you make this up?
	And it's very simple.
	If you're a leftist, if you're or you're you're a democrat activist, you are terrified of Republicans and this president having a victory that's actually good for our entire society that would actually bring growth.
	You know, um, you and I even talked about this last week.
	The Democrats are fixated on income inequality.
	Income inequality gets worse when your economy is stagnant like it was over the last decade.
	Oh, that's such a great point, David.
	Uh and and you're so good on the economic issues.
	I was staggered when when President Obama admitted, you can find the video where this has never happened in in history, but he admitted that under his policies while he was president for the first time in American history, he admitted uh, because it was true, 95% of the nation's income went to the top one percent income earners.
	Didn't happen under any Republicans' policy.
	We were trying to have policies that allowed people to, you know, earn their way and middle class go up a level and people who are poor make it to the middle class.
	That was staggering to hear him admit that.
	But that is you're exactly right.
	Yeah.
	If you're going to be an honest liberal and say income inequality is your fixation and passion, spend five minutes, look at the charts during times of economic growth, that's when it shrinks, when that the very thing you care most about on your ideology is actually most repaired by economic growth.
	And those of us on the conservative side we actually see the debt bomb coming in about 15, 18 years.
	We see the demographic crisis we're in, you know, three quarters of all of our spending is entitlement.
	If you don't get economic growth, this country hits a wall in about a decade and a half.
	But with economic growth really great things happen.
	Great point.
	Well, Ted Yoho, you're in Florida.
	And listen, I see that now New York says they're filing suit to try to take down this tax bill because it treats them unfairly.
	I'm sure that's in reference to the limit on deduction of state and local income tax.
	You're in Florida.
	I know there are a lot of people that were fleeing California's overburdening tax system.
	And the number one recipient of companies leaving California was Florida.
	Number two was Texas.
	How do you feel about the allegations that New York is making?
	No, I think it's erroneous because, Louie, we've been supplementing.
	The rest of the nation has been supplementing those high-tax states that have been controlled by Democratic policies.
	The rest of the nation has been supplementing these so that they can get by with these write-offs.
	And so now they're paying their fair share.
	So I think that's well.
	But remember, when the Democrats are railing about this, and, of course, you saw it on the House floor.
	But before I go into that, that description you gave of John Boehner and Benghazi, I was there when you stood up and said that.
	And you were spot on when you said that.
	The other thing is the Democratic Party is the party that says you can keep your doctor with the Affordable Health Care Act.
	Oh, yeah, that was a good one.
	You can keep your doctor.
	You can keep your insurance.
	are going to go down 2500 hundred dollars on average I knew we were on the right track when Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi says if you Republicans pass this tax bill you're gonna lose the majority.
	Now does anybody think that the Democrats would cheer us on for anything that would benefit our party and not them so I knew we were on the right track and this is a good tax plan.
	It'll benefit everybody it's not the perfect plan but it's going to be a heck of a lot better than it was.
	Well don't you love that when uh our people that are opponents of what we're trying to do tell us gee if you do this you will leave you'll lose the majority it warms my heart to know they they really don't want us to lose the majority.
	They want us right they really can do the things that keep our majority.
	Well David uh what's what's your reaction you're getting uh around Arizona regarding uh what we've done on taxes and what people want to see us do in the new year.
	Well uh Louie and Ted the fact of the matter is the three of us are in three of the states that are in the sweet spot Florida, Texas and of course Arizona.
	Yeah.
	Ted what's your temperature?
	I'm almost 80 degrees today.
	Oh my David I'm sitting on a boat in the Atlantic Ocean watching the sunset with my family and it is I knew somehow there would be an ocean involved in your answer.
	But he plops on in a t-shirt.
	Wow but for those of us particularly in Arizona um if you actually do the math and also being a uh uh an in-migration state a state that's really growing where you need capital you need your businesses to be able to invest um we're in the sweet spot but that sweet spot is true also for Texas Florida but it's also true for any state that has managed its finances with discipline and is actually trying to grow its economy.
	Just take one step sideways.
	Outside the Republican Democrat, you know, the the stuff we end up having to do.
	If you look at what's happened in the last unemployment report, the number of folks who hadn't worked in years who now found jobs.
	The number of felons who all of a sudden are are getting job offers.
	There's some really wonderful stuff happening out there.
	And our hope is with the tax bill with what we have to do with regulations, what we have to do with infrastructure and so many of these others, can we keep the curve going?
	And it's good for all Americans.
	Well that's good.
	And that's our story.
	Well as you're serenely uh contemplating these things, Ted Yoho, what what do you say to what David Schweig just offered?
	No, I agree with David.
	I think that that that's absolutely spot on.
	David's always been real sharp on that.
	And um you know this is a victory not just for the Republican Party, but this is a victory for the American people.
	And people ask me it was going to cut jobs.
	Absolutely not this is going to grow the economy.
	It's going to grow jobs, entice the entrepreneur and the business owner, which will make more demand for the workforce if there's more demand that means there's more competition for the workers therefore prices will raise and we've seen that with the companies that have already come out you know Boeing I think said they were going to give what was it 200,000
	people a thousand dollar bonus a raise there was another company that said the same thing and two other companies came out right after that raised the minimum wage to $15 per hour which is what the Democrats have been crying that the federal government does.
	But if they leave it in the hands to give money back to the corporations and the job creators they're going to raise the the minimum wage just because of competition and that's the way it should be in a constitutional market economies.
	You bring that up.
	I was hearing on some news this week that there's a report out that I think maybe Rush Limbaugh had talked about it, the report from Washington, D.C., not Washington, D.C., Washington State, where they had raised the minimum wage to $15 an hour and that it has done dramatic damage to the people there, to the businesses.
	But the people most hurt by that were the workers.
	They were having less hours.
	They fired a lot of people, laid a lot of people off.
	It did a lot of damage.
	Louie, there's some data out there that when you move to sort of an extreme policy, it's actually those low-skill workers that get crushed and their ability to slowly work up in a company and take on more responsibility and just have a job and eventually move to the next level of employment is taken away from them because those very business concerns shrink.
	Yep well I knew you would know the answer Dave.
	Yep go ahead Ted me Ted it is watching his fishing line right now I got my brother Tim and my wife Timmy's a fan of yours Louis said to say hi.
	But the the $15 an hour like you said if if the gov if you do that through the government businesses back up and they go away because the most uh one of the largest expenses to a business owner and we found out this when we owned our own business is the cost of labor.
	And um you know you let guys we got to take a hard break here we'll be right back if you'll hang with us we'll be right back to the Sean Hannity show this is the Sean Hannity show this is Louis Gomert sitting in for Sean.
	We have with us Dave Schweikert of Arizona and Ted Yoho of Florida members of Congress and we've only got a couple of minutes left not quite that and I'm sorry to those callers that we hadn't been able to get to but uh so thrilled with the people that have been here.
	Dave any parting thoughts for our listeners because so often you know when we founded the Freedom Caucus um you know we were a right ragtag group of conservatives that just wanted a fair chance to legislate.
	And as you know there was a couple of us who were thrown off our committees a few years ago and we sort of And the neat thing is if you actually look at a lot of the great things that happened this year, I actually think we had a really positive influence on making good policy.
	I don't have any doubt about that.
	Yeah, Ted, final comment.
	No, I agree with uh Dave.
	There's no doubt what the effect the uh freedom caucus has had on our government and for the American people.
	And Dave was talking about the stagnant wages.
	Keep in mind under the Obama policies of the Affordable Care Act, full-time work went for from 40 hours to 30 hours.
	So that cut people's income 25%.
	And we saw that across all of Florida.
	And the last thing, Louie, is the Trump administration and the Trump era.
	I think you're going to see the largest economic growth we've seen since either Ronald Reagan or the 50s and 60s when we invested in America and made America great.
	Those are great thoughts.
	That's Ted Yoho, Dave Schweichert, members of Congress, members of the Freedom Caucus.
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