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This is Jonathan Gillam back in last week, right before Christmas, this week, right before New Year's.
Just call me the holiday man and for Sean Hannity.
And as you can tell, I got a little bit of a cold, but I'm not gonna let that get me down.
I just got through hosting a week.
Uh listen, you're gonna laugh when I tell you this, folks.
Those of you who don't know me, uh, you need to get a life because you should know me.
All right.
I'm a former Navy SEAL, uh uh federal air marshal, security contractor, and FBI special agent here in New York City.
I've been in media, I stumbled into media about four years ago, and um started hosting for David Webb and then Andrew Wilkow, and then, you know, one day Linda wrote me in over here and convinced Sean to uh let me host this show.
Lordy, have we come a long way since that day.
So interesting thing.
I started a show called The Experts two years ago when I was uh a CNN contributor.
Now, my my goal was always to be a Fox News contributor.
Um unfortunately, sometimes things just don't work out the way you want it to work out, and I ended up over at CNN, where I thought I'm gonna bring the truth to CNN, and there they are going to know me as the truth teller at CNN.
Well, that didn't quite work out that way.
After about four months, CNN decided they would still pay me, not let me go anywhere, and not use me.
So I sat for six months on the shelf at CNN, and I didn't sit there and say, woe is me.
I didn't do uh like a congressman, collect money and not do anything, except for Louis Golmer and uh and uh Jim Jordan, a couple other people.
They they they do their jobs.
But I didn't sit there.
I didn't uh run around sticking my tongue down people's throats like Al Frankenstein.
Um by the way, every time I type that into my iPhone, it changes his name to Al Frankenstein.
I think that's interesting.
So I I spent that time Um working on developing a show of my own, a social media show, because if I wasn't gonna get um the recognition on CNN, I never got that Fox News contributor spot.
So what I did was, and listen, I have no problem telling people about my you know ups and downs.
I'm an open book.
There's nothing here that uh I'm uh full transparency, as they would say in Washington, DC.
Although in Washington, DC that's not actually the case.
But in my life, I do not uh hide things from everybody.
So I spent two years developing this show, learning when I had made appearances, how the uh the cameramen worked, learn talking to how the sound guys and the uh how the uh lighting worked and then being in all these radio shows, the importance of sound, and I'd slowly developed this Facebook live show, which then ended up being on Facebook and Twitter and then YouTube as they all developed their own live um streaming capabilities.
So before long, after about a year, I'm streaming on Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, and I started to develop a following for the same reason I knew, not because I have an ego, but because I know what's missing from the media, is I tell the truth, and I speak in the areas with which I have an expertise.
And if I don't, I go get somebody else to come and speak about that subject in their expertise.
Um there's many, many different people that I've had, we'll have some of them on the show today.
Scott Eulinger is one of them, former CIA station chief, Navy vet, amazing guy, Bernie Carrick.
These are real, you know, Bernie Kerrick, commissioner of the NYPD, was a commission, the commissioner of the NYPD in New York when New York was attacked on 9-11.
This guy knows the reality, not just of success, but being on the front line of an attack inside the continental United States and being in charge.
Not many people can say that.
So I developed his show, and uh all the while over the past four years, I've been, you know, jumping on doing analysis for Newsmax.
Not a lot of people know what Newsmax is.
It's growing in popularity.
But Chris Ruddy started this network.
He's a journalist, used to be with the New York Post, uh, wrote a book, and I'm trying to remember what it is about the uh the Clintons, and um, but I don't remember what that I'll get the name of that book.
But he wrote this book years ago, and then he started a company called Newsmax, and he he this news um network that he started is probably one of the most real places I've ever worked.
Bitter Legacy was the name of the book that he uh listen again, transparency.
I'm not gonna act like I just picked that out of my head.
I got Linda in there feeding that to my ear.
So Bitter Legacy.
This is gonna be complete transparency today.
Sometimes you don't need to give away all your tricks, Jonathan.
You know, every once in a while you can keep a couple.
Yeah, but if I see if I act stupid and then do great things, people be like, wow, he's really rising to the occasion.
They'll say he should run for office.
That's right.
If he just had a felony, he'd be a perfect fit.
So um, you know, Chris Ruddy started this uh this network called News Max, and he developed it, and it works, it's very um a very tight-knit group of people that work there.
And uh, and I've been uh guest hosting with uh Bill Tucker and other people on there and uh being in an uh doing analysis on there, and and they asked me if I wanted to bring my show, the experts that this thing that I developed in my apartment in a studio that I built, uh, and they asked me if I wanted to bring it over for a week and try it out.
We just finished that week.
It went great.
Even my dog Rico made an appearance today on uh the Friday show, and we'll see where it goes.
I know I'm gonna be hosting on Monday, so you go to Newsmax.com, Newsmax TV.com, or you can you can get it on FIOS, Dish, Direct TV, and ATT.
I didn't know ATT had a cable thing, but I guess they do.
So we'll see where this goes.
But it's another step in uh the direction of where the Lord has called me and speaking the truth, which I I'm gonna be honest with you, not just because, again, you know I'm I'm setting up myself for transparency here, not just because I'm sitting here hosting the Sean Hannity radio show, but because I knew and had met Sean years before he didn't remember me.
Of course, I'm gonna remember Sean Hannity, but he used to have a concert series, and myself and some other detectives um here in uh that were uh part of a task force in the FBI.
We went and saw one of their concerts there down in uh Knott's Bury Farms or whatever it is down there in Jersey, whatever they have, six flags, whatever it is, and uh it was amazing.
And then one of the guys knew a producer on uh Fox News for his show, and we went and we got to meet him.
And this was 2006, I believe it was, and it was just an amazing experience.
He was uh the most genuine person I ever met.
He was packing heat on his side, so we all thought he was major cool, because all the guys that showed up, you know, we're all Secret Service, FBI, detectives from the NYPD, we're all armed, and so was he.
So we knew that if we had to go out and go outside with Sean Hannity, he might get our backs.
You know, so anyway, he was a genuine guy then.
This many years later, uh 10 years, basically 10, 11 years later, I'm hosting his show, believe it or not, and he is the same guy.
He is not changed.
What comes out of his mouth on this show, although all radio and television in some way, shape, or form, which I've learned, and and he will write he will admit himself, has to be entertaining.
What comes out of his mouth is the truth.
And one thing reflecting, especially over this year, because of the election last year and uh and hosting this year when when the leftist, I'm I'm not gonna say liberals in this country, because I believe there are good Liberals in this country that don't want to impeach the president.
They don't buy into this nonsense.
We're gonna have Hori uh Hory.
We're gonna have Ami Horowitz on here just a little bit.
That was not Linda.
That was me saying that.
We're gonna have Ami here on here in a little bit.
I'm talking about how a lot of liberals are just led astray.
They're just led astray by what they're being told by the Democratic Party and the leftists in this country.
So what I've learned over this past year is a dark side of media.
And it's a direct reflection of the dark side of politics and the dark side of big money, the dark side of communist subversion, and the dark side of the deep state, all of which is pretty much the same thing.
Several times throughout the past year, I've said things on here that were 100% truthful.
I said that feminist and the that the feminism, the movement of feminism is steeped in communism.
They have different waves.
They call it the first wave, second wave, and third wave of feminism.
You can look it up and read about the history.
Definitely steeped in communist ideology, Marxist ideology.
When media matters got a hold of that, even though it's the truth, oh my goodness, they just they have to write an article trying to defame me.
But see, here's the thing.
First of all, I'm not going away.
I don't care if I got to stand outside of all these morning shows with a big poster saying this is the truth.
I'm like John the Baptist in the desert.
I am a voice crying out for you to make your straight your past straight for the Lord to travel, and you can only do that with truth.
And so there's been several other times.
One just recently in the book that I wrote, uh Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
You can get that at Amazon right now.
And I was talking about how the people that got killed in Vegas, they got killed in Orlando, most of these terrorist attacks, uh, the one in Manchester after the Irana Grande concert.
The fact is that the gazelles on the plane of Africa, on the plains of Africa, they are aware of where the lions are, where the predators are.
When they have to go to the watering hole, they have to go there.
They're aware of the tactics, techniques, and procedures of these predators, lions, the Jekylls, these vicious animals that I mean, we don't even know in this world that we live in in the human world, we don't, we can't even fathom the verocity of those killers.
Yet those gazelles, giraffes, all the other prey, they they seem to just continue to live in that environment because they're fully aware of everything that's going on around them and the attacker's avenue of approach, the vulnerabilities that they have, where something might happen, when it might happen.
And I made a comment about the people at these different attacks, how if they had been aware like this, if we were empowering people in this country and giving them this awareness, a lot of them wouldn't be dead.
It's a fact.
But of course, media matters, I think salon.com, all these people, they like to um take, they would literally take one word if they could and write an entire article about it, but they take things out of context.
And one thing I've learned after being here is not to sweat it.
You know, Sean, Linda, this show has dealt tremendously with them attacking the advertisers and going after Sean personally, Linda, but they just weathered the storm because they are truth tellers and they don't sway from that.
You're not gonna see them talking about stuff like they do on CNN where they're just specifically going after somebody.
Sean did one of the most incredible interviews I think has been done in modern journalism this year when he interviewed Roy Moore.
And it was very telling in my in my mind, and I think it proved for all those that you know had any question that Sean was grounded in his beliefs.
But if you read what Media Matters wrote or CNN says, it's they're spinning it into something that it's not.
I'm gonna start this show off with that in mind, because as we talk about the year in review today, I want you to try to understand the reality versus the spin, because I think that is the biggest story.
Hashtag me too.
Um, I guess that's that's a big story.
What happened to those women?
Uh I think uh Ronan Farrow should be given some kind of presidential medal for what he did.
Uh, that guy is, I believe, the person of the year.
If any individual did something, it was him.
Um, but I think the biggest story is the narratives, the real fake news.
Not whether it's an apple or banana, but what kind of apple it is, and you may not be a specialist in apples.
And that's what they count on.
So as we reflect on these different things today, and I hope you stay for the whole show.
If you're driving, whatever you're doing.
I hope you stay there and you listen to what we're saying because we're gonna give you the real truth, the real story, just like Sean does on a daily basis, but this is the year in review.
That's what I'm gonna bring to you today.
This is Jonathan Gillam, your resident Navy SEAL and FBI special agent, your tactical guru on the radio here with you for the next three hours.
Go get my book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
It's available at Amazon and Barnes and Oman.
By the way, I have a major cold.
So if I say things like Amazon, it's not because I all of a sudden have an accent.
I love all of you.
Join me for the next three hours.
We'll be right back.
This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for my good buddy Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show all over the universe, number one in everything.
And it's good to be back here.
Make sure I'm gonna push this because this is last day I'll be hosting this show this year.
Make sure you go to Amazon and get this book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
This book, as I'll talk a little bit more about it a little bit later, is gonna teach you how to divide your life up into sectors so that you can target yourself from an attacker's point of view.
No book has ever been written like this.
No book will ever change your life except for the Bible, quite like this one.
I'm not just saying that.
It's getting great reviews.
You can see them on Amazon.
Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
Real quick, I'm gonna go to a call.
And by the way, I didn't give out the number 800-941-7326-800-941 Sean.
Let's go to Beth in Orlando.
Hey, Beth.
Hey, Jonathan, how are you?
I'm doing good.
How how is the weather in Orlando?
It's um it's it's very gloomy, and it's a little chilly.
I don't feel bad for you at all, Beth.
I don't feel bad at all.
I don't feel I don't feel bad for me either.
In New York, it's like 100 below, it feels like outside.
So what do you got?
I got about a minute for you to tell me what you got.
I got your book.
And I I've been I started reading it.
I'm reading the section on different attackers.
Yep.
And I am totally enjoying it.
I'm learning a lot.
In fact, um, I'm packing as we speak.
Not that anybody has who I am.
I like that.
But but I feel better about it, you know, instead of feeling like, oh, it's silly me, gotta carry a gun.
I'm like, nope, packing.
And um, and so reading how to assess your situation and and be aware of your situation is awesome.
Thank you very much.
You got it, and you know, the what goes right along with that is if you can avoid this situation, then then you'll be able to avoid it because you'll be able to know where, when, uh, and how it could occur, who would do it and why?
You can completely avoid a lot of situations, and then if you have to get into one of those, you can mitigate it, and then you'll know if you ever have to draw that piece, you'll know when you do it and why, and you'll be legally in the right place and tactically uh effective.
Okay, well, I'll look forward to learning that.
Thank you so much for writing a book like that.
I plan on handing it out to my entire family.
You got it, Beth.
God bless you, and thank you for the call.
This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for Sean Handy, and that was Sheep No More, the Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
Get it at Amazon.
We'll be right back.
I'm Ami Horowitz, and I'm back in the East Village, Liberal Mecca.
The Republicans recently voted on a new tax proposal, and predictably, Democrats didn't like it.
But what if they thought that the Republican plan was actually a Bernie Sanders proposal?
We've presented them with the Republican tax plan and pretended that it was in fact Bernie's plan.
What are your thoughts?
Republican tax plan, good, bad.
I'm gonna be honest with you.
I feel like there's just another excuse for the rich people to get a break of having to pay taxes that the rest of us hardworking people have to pay.
It doesn't have much stuff in it for the middle class working Americans, I think.
I mean, that's that's why you got such a part.
Yeah.
Uh seems like the middle class is gonna get hit pretty hard here.
Um suck.
They all suck.
I mean, there's a lot about the current proposed tax trend.
That's just ridiculous.
So Bernie came out with a comp with a competing plan.
I want to give you some of the deal points and kind of get a sense of what you think of his deal points.
Okay.
So if you're making $50,000 or less, uh, most family of four will not pay any taxes at all.
Okay.
That's a good plan, yeah.
Sound good?
Yeah.
Double the child tax credit from 1,000 to 2,000.
What do you think about that?
He's lowering corporate taxes.
From uh 30 35% to 21%.
Lowering corporate taxes.
Yeah, okay.
If you take out a mortgage for more than three quarters of a million dollars, you're gonna end up paying more in taxes on that.
I could definitely side with that.
The more money you make, the more of a percentage of your income you have to pay your taxes.
Yeah, I know that people who make a lot of money aren't gonna like that, but like yeah, exactly, right?
He he keeps the Obama era tax credits for clean energy.
Yeah.
He keeps the Obama era tax credit.
Yeah, oh, 100,000 billion percent.
What do you think of Bernie's tax plan?
Fantastic.
Do you feel the burn?
Do you find those things to be good, bad?
I find them to be good for the most part.
Seems seems like a good thing.
Yeah, I like that.
I think that that's a step in the right direction.
I love Bernie.
I voted for him.
Yeah, sad.
I I miss Bernie more now than ever.
Overall given an A plus.
Yeah, A plus.
It's all just rational with Bernie and with Trump, it's not.
Now what if I tell you these are all in Trump's tax plans?
Really?
Yes.
Oh.
Oh, this is one of those things.
One of those things.
What if I were to tell you that that's all the Republican tax plans?
Is it?
What if it was?
Is it?
It is.
Well, why aren't they showcasing that those aspects of it then?
They shouldn't, right?
Yeah.
So what if I were to tell you that all this was in the Republican tax plan?
Really?
Well, that would that's really interesting.
What if I were telling you that all that stuff is a Republican tax plan?
Oh, wow.
Well then that's do what you rethink the way you position on it?
Yeah.
But it makes you maybe reconsider and take a closer look at it to see if it made more sense.
Sure.
I mean, definitely.
Do you think now knowing what's in that plan, you might be more open supporting it?
Uh yeah.
I'm definitely gonna look into this because that is not what I expected.
This would be the first time I would sit here and say, well, the Republicans might be doing something else.
Yeah, I'm curious.
Thanks for opening my mind to that.
This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for Sean Hannity.
Call in numbers 800-941-7326-S800-941.
Sean, for those of you that like to spell numbers.
And uh that was Ommi Horowitz, uh, our good friend who um is a master at making these videos.
I mean, I've seen a lot of these Man of the Street videos.
I've even done a couple.
But uh you're a master, Ami, and this was probably um for one thing, it was the calmest one I think I've seen you do.
Nobody's getting beaten up, and you're not in uh any uh neighborhood where there's terrorists.
But um I was surprised at the reaction of these people.
Were you surprised with that reaction?
Yeah, you know, it's funny.
Uh normally I can predict what how people are gonna react to what I do.
And in this case, yeah, I was pretty surprised that that with with one exception, but everybody you saw there was reflective of what ev the majority of people's responses were this.
In fact, a supermajority.
I mean, one person really said, Oh, then in that case I don't support it.
Everybody else was like, this thing actually makes a lot of sense.
And this wasn't like you know, left of center people.
These are leftists, these are Bernie Sanders people.
Yeah.
And when and when given the opportunity to really understand the deal points, uh take and take them away out of the narrative that's been hijacked by the mainstream media, they're like, this makes sense.
So yeah, I was shocked and happily surprised.
Absolutely.
So uh where was that at in New York?
Because that also plays a huge part in this.
Yeah, so it it was self-selective group in the sense that I went to East Village, which is dominated by NYU students, uh, Bernie supporters.
You know, you're you'd be hard pressed to find a single Republican who lives in that area and spends time in that area.
Yeah, then so yeah, it was definitely a a left much not left or center, a leftist group.
That's where an uh his name just escaped me.
Um he's one of the guys that started Vice.
Um and he got pepper sprayed there.
Oh, is that is that right?
Yeah, he is Smith.
Nope, nope, the guy with the big mustache and beard.
Uh used to be a uh late night on Fox.
But he went there uh to ask these per uh the students uh about some stuff where they were you know yelling about Trump and this and that and he went there to ask him about this and they had this crazy professor out there because you're right they're leftist.
These people are leftist.
Yeah, and and and and I think that we needed okay, I think there's two takeaways from this.
Number one, that I think we should take heart that this is not, you know, as divisive as this country is, certainly though you we thought economically that we actually can find common ground with people with common sense proposals.
And then the second takeaway is that uh Jonathan, I hate to say this.
We failed miserably to explain this, right?
We allowed the main CNN, the MSNBCs, the New York Times to take a hold of this, spin it their way, right?
And the most and the one they kept saying over and over again was the rich are gonna are are gonna get all the money and the middle class get hosed.
And and this it couldn't be farther from the truth.
And I thought that we did not do a good job representing what was really in this plan and who really benefited.
So I think those are the two major takeaways, at least from my perspective on this thing.
You know, I yeah, I couldn't agree with you more because that is reflective of and I'm a Trump supporter.
I was supporting Trump way before on this show, before Sean even said anything, and uh uh before the most people in media had done it um in 2015.
But I have to say two of his biggest problems is that he continues to use Washington DC recycles and that they don't utilize social media and um whatever mainstream media they can to get the word out about these things because I didn't even know um w what this tax plan was all about until I I had to have somebody explain it to me.
And it's actually way better than it sounded.
Yeah, there's no question.
Even the things that the corporate tax cut, which was probably the most divisive, I I don't know, you know, uh of of the of the deal points in this in this plan.
But even then, if you sit down and you tell them, listen, what is this money for?
They're if we're not we're just bringing the corporate tax rate to where Europe is, where leftists, you know, the the Valhalla of the leftists, and saying by doing that, we're allowing companies to keep their money here.
Never mind try to make the argument that a corporate tax cut more money in their pocket is they'll more and reinvested higher wages.
Forget that argument.
Just a simple argument of we want companies who are leaving the U.S. to go to Europe to come back here just to keep it competitive with their, you know, their their Valhalla of Europe.
Just simply making that argument we never did, right?
And every oh God forbid, when when when a Democrat would make this the case that uh this this notion of you know cutting corporate taxes and cutting um personal taxes leads to greater growth, right?
You would see, and they would say no, it doesn't.
You would see a lot of these advocates of this plan kind of almost like turtles, like the receipt into their shell.
They didn't stand up and say you're wrong.
And they didn't make the push the case that in fact tax cuts do lead to growth.
They didn't make that argument clearly forcefully, and we lot and we and we lost it.
Now, having said that, I think ultimately history will be the author of this, whether or not this will be successful or not, and I feel confident that three, four years from now, people look at this plan and say, this created an unbelievable amount of growth in this country, and I think we'll ultimately win the argument.
I thought we lost it.
I really did.
So um what do you think?
And it was Gavin McGuinness, by the way, that got pepper sprayed down.
Of course, of course.
So the great the great Gavin McGuinness.
What do you think?
Um, or do you even know?
Because I don't know.
Uh it let's say this hadn't gone through.
Um and then let's say in 2018, you know, things didn't go the way that we hope they will for the Republican Party.
What would have been the outcome of taxes for Americans?
Where do you where do you think that would have gone?
In in in if we if we lose in 2018, yeah.
Oh, they're they're they were going up.
They were going up.
I I I think that one of the major things you would have seen, which really would have put a uh a break on on investment in this country, is I think that they're they they would have raised a capital gain, they would have probably doubled the capital gains tax.
Uh I and I think they would have raised a personal tax for for people making over a quarter million dollars a year.
Uh I think corporate taxes may have even gone up.
No, if this wasn't done now, and it will probably hold over for quite a while, but if it wasn't done now, I think and if we had a god forbid, a a uh a Bernie Sanders type, let's say Elizabeth Warren uh win win the presidency, because what they're not gonna have there's no more moderates in the Democratic Party.
Right.
So any if if we had if we lose, if we had if we lose in 2018, we're gonna get a true leftist.
You you would have seen gone through the roof.
I mean, they're they're gonna try to bring it back to where it was in the seventies.
So, yeah, I mean, thank God we got this thing done because it would not have been good for us.
You know, and I'll I'll make one other argument.
I the next thing I'm looking for, and what we need is entitlement reform, right?
That that's kind of go hand in hand.
And the argument I would make, and I never heard a single person make this argument.
This really was the beginning of entitlement reform for rich people, right?
We're saying say there's a lot of things that were taken away from rich people.
For example, um the mortgage tax deduction.
That threshold went up significantly.
That's that clearly is an entitlement.
Um the deduction of of your state taxes from your federal government uh taxes, which was a very controversial.
That's that's an entitlement for wealthier people.
So uh there's a lot, and I think now we can make the argument when we're looking to cut entitlements in other areas that say, look, the rich certainly we've got their entitlements cut back.
Now we want to do it for the other side as well, so we can make this country put this country on a stabilized uh uh base for the first time in a long time.
So I I think I know what your next video needs to be.
It needs to be where you if you haven't done this already.
I talk about communism a lot in this country.
And I I started studying last year Yuri Bezmanov, who's who's dead now, but he was a defector during uh the Reagan administration from Russia, and um he talks about subversion in ways I just I didn't realize exactly what was going on.
I just couldn't put my finger on it, but it makes everything clear.
I would love to see you um do a video about the reality of communism, and uh just like you did with uh Trump's uh tax plan, um, actually tell people uh communist uh ideologies and see how many of them are okay with that.
Okay, so it's so funny you say that.
I already shot a video that I'm gonna release in a couple weeks.
Now I'm gonna now I'm gonna I'll preview it.
Essentially, the video is I read people a quote, yeah, and they gotta tell me if this quote comes from the Democratic Party platform or the communist manifesto.
It is it's it's it was a game show.
I played for people one money if they can get the answer right.
It's hilarious.
Absolutely.
So yeah, right out right you're spot on.
And that's a and that's my entire listen, that's my argument.
That the Democrats, it's funny, when people argue, the Republicans have actually become more moderate over the last 10, 15 years in reality on social issues, certainly.
Uh, and the truth is the Democratic Party who was moved to the extreme.
And I I think you're we're just not going to get another candidate who can even remotely be called a moderate.
Never mind, a blue dog Democrat.
Those things don't, they're they're an extinct species.
Yeah.
And I think that if we don't wake up to where the Democratic Party is moving, we're gonna wake up one day and we're gonna look listen.
If I it's one thing I don't want our country to ever be, if you ask me what is my life's goal, is to make sure we don't become like Europe.
That's my number one goal in life.
And the Democrats desperately want us to become like Europe in every way imaginable.
And I just think that is we we see Europe imploding right before our eyes.
And how is that not a lesson to the left?
I don't understand it.
Look at California, and I keep telling people in Texas, and this is another video you could do, go talk to your gun total conservatives in Texas, ask them a series of questions about their belief system, and then go ask all the people at the top, all the big cities in Texas who make and manipulate the laws, and I think they would be a big eye-opener because they're following in the same line uh as uh California.
I mean, they're becoming liberal at the top faster than you can snap your fingers in Texas.
Is that right?
Oh, yeah.
That's a scare.
That's a scary thought, because if we lose Texas, it's game over.
Well, it's I mean it's That's a very scary thought, man.
Yeah, it's very, very scary.
Listen, I love your work.
Uh, you know, I met you twice now.
Uh I met you at the Christmas party.
I think you're an amazing guy.
And so I have to be completely honest with you.
I called you Hory Amowitz a little while ago.
But that is that is your that is your pseudonym name now.
That's what you're gonna have to go into when you're gonna do a roll.
I'm gonna roll with it, buddy.
When you interview liberals, that's what you use from now on.
Hori Amowitz.
Hey, got you're too kind, you're too kind.
God bless you, brother.
Have a great new year's and keep doing the work.
You too.
You got it.
This is Jonathan Gillam filling In and that was Ami Horowitz, and uh he's a great guy.
Um we're gonna come back.
I'm gonna get to some of your calls here in a bit.
800-941-7326-800-941 Sean.
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This is Jonathan Gillam back in for Sean Hannity before New Year's.
Listen, I'm gonna give you some tips real quick before we go uh back to break.
If you're going out for New Year, keep your head on a swivel.
There's been threats to this country.
Don't worry about what the experts say about no known credible or specific threat.
Think about the possibility.
Don't think about the probability.
It's possible.
Okay.
I'm gonna leave you with that.
We're gonna come back from the break.
We got a lot more to talk about and reflecting for this year.
And while you're on break for the next few minutes, you can go to Amazon.
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This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for my good buddy Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
And it is great to be back here right before New Year's.
It was awesome being in here before Christmas.
And then the time before that was right at the end of November, I hosted right after I'd had this accident on, you know, Sean's always harassing me about my scooter that I rode.
I don't ride anymore around uh around the city.
It's one of those electric scooters, and I had an accident and tore my quadricept tendon right off my uh kneecap.
So I did the show without any pain meds two days after that, made it through and uh and then did Christmas, and now we're here right before New Year's.
2017 has been an amazing year, if you think about it, folks.
It's been one of these years where some incredible things have uh covertly made it into my life, and I'm sure in your lives and in the presidency, he wasn't so covert, but the work that he's done has been covert because either they just can't get the word out and what they're doing.
We're talking about that with the taxes earlier.
And there I do have some criticisms for the president.
I I wish, you know, I of course everybody wishes they could sit down with Trump and tell him how to do his job.
Everybody, we're all like the back seat drivers for the president.
Probably because we see him as a normal person.
I mean, at least I do.
I know he's a billionaire, but I still see him as somebody who's approachable.
And he's somebody that's got an incredible work ethic.
But I'll tell you where I feel like things are they need to be revamped.
One of them is the way that we think strategically and the way we handle conflicts, whether it's natural disasters or whether it's the war on terror, the war on drugs.
Uh the other thing is uh he needs to watch what he what he information he takes from the Intel community because the reality is, and I'm gonna bring my buddy Scott Eulinger on right now.
The Intel community is different than the political appointees, and as we've seen in the FBI and the DOJ, the senior executive service members at the very top.
They don't really represent the people that are on the ground most of the time.
Although the DOJ is completely leftist, and so is the State Department.
But let's ask Scott about this.
Scott Eulinger, uh former former, well, first of all, you're a Navy vet.
Uh you were a former CIA operations officer and co-host of the podcast, the station chief.
You're also running for Congress in the is it the 15th district in Pennsylvania?
That's right.
I'm running for Congress in the 15th District of Pennsylvania.
That's right.
And the only non-politician and veteran running, you know.
We need more folks like that nationwide to help drain the swamp, right?
Scott, you think that that would be like, oh, wait, this guy Ulinger, he's a vet, CIA operations officer.
Um, extremely well.
Don't ever ask Scott Eulinger for a reading list that you might want to read.
If the thing is gonna be a book itself.
Um so you think it would be automatic for people just to jump on board and say, I'm voting for that guy.
Yeah, I'm I'm actually very confident of that.
I just got to get the word out.
I have to use the money to get the word out.
But I'm sure that when everyone sees that I exist and they see the other choices before them, that I will be the choice.
Um I'm very confident of that.
You know, that's the military instills in us that kind of confidence.
But I know that you know, people everywhere are tired of the same old, same old.
It's what you talk about on your radio show all the time.
And um, you know, people uh basically trust veterans maybe better than others but we're the ones who you know maybe potentially sacrificed our lives anyway and you know it takes outsiders like us non-politicians that's what you're gonna need to help drain the swamp you know and we and we all know it.
So let's tell me this you know I I know you've heard what I was saying could while you were on hold there about the president not trusting the um the upper echelon of the intel community because it's like trusting the upper echelon of the Bureau and the DOJ.
What advice, if you could tell the president, or let's say you win your congressional race and you're able to sit down with the president, what advice would you give him on how to circumvent that deep state in the intel community?
Well, I know one good way of doing that, like one way that the agency itself can help police itself is a lot of times they should, they give a projection of what's going to happen based on information.
And then sometimes they'll red cell it, which means that let's look at it from a different point of view and process.
put the opposite conclusion.
And in other words like they give one point of view and then they give an alternate point of view.
We have to make sure that the Intel agencies continue to do that because what we have learned as you've said many times over that the the um you know the upper echelons of the agency and not just political appointees and whether it's justice, intel, it's all the same it's also a lot of the upper level bureaucrats reached maturity under the Obama administration and a lot of that was due to their political loyalties sometimes to uh to the detriment of their actual abilities.
And so it's very um he's got to appoint good leaders in different positions like director of the CIA Justice Department at strategic places that can help that can you know rein in these different subdepartments of the um larger government agencies to make sure that this kind of politicization is reversed because it remains a real problem.
You know the hardworking people in the FBI and the CIA remain that they are hard working people and you know um and sure maybe their morale is suffering a little bit now but but in a way morale has been suffering for years that you and I saw morale was suffering for years under the Obama administration as you saw people elevated due to their not so much due to their professional abilities as to their like political loyalties.
So you know we've got to we've got to go through like it's like curing cancer.
It's that doesn't help your morale to go through chemotherapy but it's necessary to survive and that's what we've got to do.
Maybe morale has been hurt a little bit by these developments but we've got to move forward with the cure so that these agencies are healthy once again.
But the problem is that that cancer is metastasized and it is literally um it it's all over the place and what I see with President Trump was the same mistake that President Bush 43 made although I gotta be honest I don't know how much of a mistake it was or if I I don't want to get into conspiracy theories but President Bush didn't get rid of the deep state people that kind of came into the government during the eight years of Bill Clinton.
He didn't get rid of them.
And then those people stayed, and then by the time Obama was elected, they're entrenched, right?
That's right.
So let me bring on Bernard Carrick, former commissioner of the NYPD, good friend of mine.
Bernie, I want to bring you in on this conversation because I think what we're talking about with the intel community and with the FBI, a lot of this same type of leftist attitude has definitely gotten not just in Congress and representatives and federal government, but also in the mayor, like the mayor here in New York City is a communist.
How much of this has affected the local law enforcement and the ineptitude of a lot of these people who've come up through the ranks during these times when these constraints were put on them by these liberal mayors and city council members to the point where we have literally 20 years of recruited leftists in our police department.
Is that the case?
know what John you don't see a lot of that in in the NYPD and in the in the police department um until you get the guys at the highest levels uh you know and it's sort of replicated in you know what's going on in the uh in the bureau and DOJ um I I will say you know now you have uh Jim O'Neill James O'Neal the commissioner of the NYPD Jim O'Neill was in the NYPD uh he worked for me was a captain or a deputy I think,
16 years ago.
He's come through the ranks.
The good thing about O'Neal and the guys that work around him is that they they were there for all the policies and all the programs that were put in place by Giuliani, Giuliani's administration, Bloomberg's administration.
These guys only come to Fusion, only come to the top, you know, under De Blasio recently.
So you don't have a lot of that.
And keep in mind, the everyday cop, the everyday FBI agent, the everyday state police officer, these guys are not usually, you know, these these left wingers.
These guys are sort of down the center.
They're maybe a little to the right, but they're pro-law enforcement.
They're they're patriots, they're people that go out and put their lives on the line on a daily basis for this country.
Um and they really don't give a damn about politics.
Uh they don't want politics involved in the departments.
So and and uh I personally I think it's a shame what's going on within the FBI, because it does paint the reputation of the Bureau.
And it has nothing to do with the everyday FBI agents, the guys, the men and women that go out there and do the job, but the leadership has really skewed the reputation to the point that you know you've got to be I and I said this this the other day in an interview.
Uh any American, I don't care what side of the aisle you're on, any member of Congress, you have to be frightened at this point.
When you see what's happened, um this stuff is an innuendo, it's not allegation, it's not rumor.
There are actual text messages, and there are emails that prove a conspiracy between FBI and DOJ members at the highest levels that basically wanted to interfere with the election.
Right.
Let me so with that thought in mind, Scott, let me ask you this.
As a former CIA operations officer and a chief of station, um, you worked uh in a subversive capacity.
You were the operative um getting other people to either subvert other countries or working to collect information about those countries.
When you look when you look at what's going on with, you know, first of all, Mueller turned the FBI into an intelligence gathering agency when I was in there, that didn't do anything but benefit the politicians.
Didn't do anything to benefit crime fighting or the American people.
When you you start it with that, you start it with um these people that uh have worked their way to the top or really were pulled to the top, the McCabe's, the structs, right, uh the woman that he was having sex with and texting with, you have this succession of DOJ attorneys leading the FBI who've never been investigators, didn't work their way up.
When you look at this, do you see some of the stuff that they're doing in collusion with the media when you have uh Clapper going out and Brennan going out and being mouthpieces for these lies?
Do you see the tactics that you used in other countries being used here by these very people?
Sure, that's that's absolutely true.
Um, you know, uh the what we're seeing now with people like former Intel uh directors, Brennan and Isaiah there, you know, here these incestuous ties with the media, for example, or we find out that that Peter Sterzak, his wife worked for Fusion One.
I mean, there there's more incestuous ties than then you could find in like a Harlequin romance novel.
That's not by accident, though.
Right, it's not.
And and what I'm saying is these certain these ties are also fostered in other countries too, you know.
And there's a tremendous amount of backbiting and infighting going on in a lot of other intelligence services and law enforcement you know, uh services, you know, that I worked against in other countries.
But the problem is is that these these um organizations turn themselves into such uh tie themselves in such knots that they're no longer effective at doing what they're supposed to do, protecting their people.
And that's of course what both of us, but this this three-way conversation, we all agree that's the kind of the troubling part, because in the end, we need the Justice Department to do something to assist the American people and the CIA.
But if they're spending all of this time fighting turf wars and infighting and conspiring against the president, what are they doing for the security of the American people?
I don't think that's the scary part.
I don't even think they care about that.
So let me let me flip this a little bit.
Now, Bernie, from the law enforcement side, and I know you and I have had conversation about this before.
When I look at uh this group of people, just this one group.
I mean, there's the the group is actually it's not huge, but it's bigger than just Mueller and Comey and uh Rod Rosenstein and uh the these other few deputy directors, it goes into the Clintons, the Obamas, uh, Loretta Lynch, uh the the uh Samantha or Susan Power that was uh at the DOD that was leaking the names of these people.
You have to have when you look at a criminal uh enterprise, an organized criminal enterprise, you have to have two at least a minimum of two crimes being committed by the enterprise, not in not each individual, but they have to be two crimes committed by this enterprise in furtherance of that enterprise.
Right, you and that's for a RICO statute for a RICO charge.
Well, listen, this is something Rudy Giuliani talked about I I think more than a month ago, six weeks ago.
Um he talked about uh the possibility of bringing a Rico case against uh a a number of these players.
Um but who would bring that?
Who would bring that, Bernie?
Because they are the well, you know.
Here's here's the problem.
You know, where is the inspector general?
Where is the office of professional responsibility?
Where is where is the attorney general?
I mean, I I get the fact that he recused himself on this Russia stuff, but he is where where is he?
Like w you know, where the people that are supposed to be overseeing this stuff, and and that's the scary thing because I'm gonna tell you something.
When I listen to you and Scott talk, I I'm gonna tell you if this was a police department or a state police agency, any law enforcement uh agency in this country, there would be an internal investigation, people would be suspended, people would be on put on hold.
You took you they're talking about McCabe retiring.
Really?
Yeah.
Really?
In the middle of a congressional investigation over corruption and all this incestuous unethical behavior.
Yeah.
Somebody's gonna let this guy retire before that's concluded.
That would never happen in a police department or a state police agency ever.
Listen, I got everything would be put on hold.
I gotta cut it right there, unfortunately.
But uh, do you guys have hope that that uh just real quick like five yes or no?
Do you is there hope that uh the president will make it through this uh this really interrogation process that's going on it with his career as a president uh and through Mueller?
Yes, I think he'll make it.
I I think he'll get through it.
Okay.
Hey, listen, God bless both of you guys for all your service.
I can't ever say that enough.
Thank you for coming on here and uh telling the people the truth and have a happy new year.
I know neither one of you will be in Times Square, I don't think.
You got it.
God bless you guys.
This is Jonathan Gill, I'm filling in for my good buddy Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show, 800-941-7326.
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This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for Sean Hannity, and I'm not gonna lie to you, I got a cold today, but man, I wish m this cold would manifest my voice into Scott Shannon's voice somehow.
That he's got the most amazing voice.
He could like Wait, can I just tell you one thing?
So you know how a lot of people ask the question does that person really talk like that in real life?
Right.
Let me tell you something.
I have talked to Scott a thousand times.
He's a friend, he's a dear friend of Sean's.
I've known him for years.
I've known him since I was an intern.
That is exactly how he talks in real life.
When you call him on the phone and he and you say hello, he's like, hey, Linda.
It's just like a kid.
Is this Linda from the Sean Hannity show?
Just like I mean, when Sean was inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame this year, I asked him to do the voiceover.
Yeah.
And it's just hilarious.
It's exactly the way he talks.
That entire video of that voice.
It's just his voice is unbelievable.
At the end of the phone call, does he say, that was Linda?
This is Scott Shannon.
That was an amazing revolutionary phone call.
That's my that's my Scott Shannon.
This is fantastic.
So listen, we were talking a minute ago about this book, Sheep No More.
Linda's been a big proponent of this book.
She's helped me out tremendously with it.
And I'm not just saying that because she puts me on the air, but because she really has to be.
You would never do that.
No, never.
And I love the way her accent comes out when she's you know being what is that word?
You're you're pouncing.
Aggressive.
Aggressive.
But we had a caller a minute ago.
It's very important.
Um it's not sleep no more, which I got on one of these bestseller lists.
Wait, so far today I've gotten what is the name of the book?
Is it She No More, Sleep No More, Sheep No More?
So what I've been saying to folks is it is sheep no more, like the farm animal.
Bah and I bat into the phone.
But okay, I'm from the South.
How did the guy ask you a second ago when he called I can't do it?
Just do a little bit of it.
I love this.
So bad.
No, it's good.
No, because everybody who's from the South is gonna get mad at me because I'm from the South, and I don't want to get it mad at you, trust me.
Because they call and they go, what's he saying?
Shane know more?
What's he saying?
Shayna.
It's just bad.
Anyways, everybody, it's sheep.
Sheep no more.
That's right.
Sheep.
That was probably on my trucker friends.
I made the mistake one time on David Webb's show of saying I was like the Justin Bieber for the truckers.
Because I always joking around.
It's like, I'm like the j the truckers love me when I come on because I talked to them and I was like, I'm like the Justin Bieber for Truckers.
And that stayed with me.
It's probably going to stay with me again now, but for like a two years, I was like, if we were on Twitter, like, what's up, Justin?
Listen, I'm not obnoxious.
I can be a little bit, but I'm not that obnoxious.
That's like me singing on the Denzel of Boredops.
But you are.
No one's buying that.
You are, if Denzel had a Mohawk.
You would be the Denzel of, okay.
We're listening forget about the audience.
Let's just have a conversation.
Let's talk.
You know, one thing about this book, though, I will cover before we go back go, and then we're gonna come back here in a little bit with Joe Concha and just a little bit, and we're gonna talk about media and stuff.
I've been reflecting all day.
I did my show The Experts at 1 PM on News Max.
I was on Breitbart this morning.
Um I've been reflecting all day on the reality of this past year.
And and politically, uh we'll never I don't know.
I can't say you can never say never with President Trump, but 2016 election process, wow, it's gonna be hard to top that.
Um 2017 uh really was the culmination um not so much of President Trump's presency.
I mean, he's got three more years, at least on this run, to basically do the things that he's promised us, and I think he will.
He's done a lot, a tremendous amount that hasn't really been publicized because the mainstream media is so crooked, basically.
But in 2016, the the deep state, the we don't really have to guess who the deep state is.
They revealed themselves in 2016.
And then in 2017, they're revealing more and more of their tactics and how they work.
And that's why these special investigators like Mueller that come in, they don't it's not like they look uh and first of all, why isn't the FBI investigating this stuff?
Why do we need special prosecutors?
That's the question I always have.
Why don't we just have that's what the FBI is for?
I was an FBI agent.
They're the ones who investigate uh Washington, DC.
But for some strange reason, when it's something like this, they got to get a special prosecutor.
Well, that is because politicians in the deep state, they want to own this and they want to make sure it works.
So it's very similar to a case of entrapment, where they are literally creating the cases they go along so they can manufacture the evidence, create the illusion that this is happening or that's happening, and they entrap the person.
Fortunately for us, um, we don't have a sheep in the office.
We got he's Wiley.
I mean, he's like, I don't know if he's a wolf or if he's a coyote or what what uh President Trump would term himself as a lion.
I'm sure he would say a lion.
But he's slippery.
You know, the you the thing about this president, no matter how much people hate him, and most of them are saying stuff when they base their hate.
It's based on stuff that they they really know nothing about him.
They just listen to CNN or uh I don't want to use a derogatory term, but I mean, I guess you could just say Brian Stelters.
Instead of calling people incompetent or idiots, from now on I'm just gonna say they're a Brian Stelter from CNN.
Don't be a stelter.
I mean, that guy, when I was at CNN, and listen, I don't mind caught telling names.
I don't mind saying names because here's the reality.
I think that they are performing a great injustice to this country.
Most of the people that you see in media don't have experience in a whole lot more than just being an advisor in a campaign or winning a beauty pageant or they went to college.
That's about it.
And then they get on these shows, and people for some reason just believe that they know what they're talking about.
I've had literally on CNN, I've had a legal uh the chief legal analyst or whatever it was, uh Perez, I think is his last name, try to tell me that the security um response to the mass shooting at the Navy Yards in Washington, D.C. was appropriate.
And I was telling him from having been in the FBI and having ran these operations that the way that they were converging on this was not appropriate, that they had literally locked themselves into an area where they couldn't get out if there was going to be multiple shooters other places.
But you know, like millennials that uh have gone left and like leftists in general, they just will love uh for you to try to make a point so they can just tell you, no, you're wrong.
And they literally believe that.
So where am I going with all this?
Here's the thing.
When we look at uh the reality of news in this country, when we look at the reality of what's happened over the past year in politics, year in uh leadership, I guess you could call it, in Washington, D.C., what you're seeing is not reality.
It it is not reality.
You are not seeing clear pictures of actually what's happening.
And one of the main reasons why you you continue to see this because you can't see what is actually happening.
They don't allow that that actual picture to get out.
You would literally have to be inside to see what's going on.
But here's something that's very interesting.
I want the people to realize it's not that much different than any other organized crime group.
It's not that much different from any other basic criminal out there, except that they own an intelligence agency.
Whereas the mafia may own a couple of hitmen that can beat somebody up.
These guys own an intelligence agency and they get people to swear allegiance to them.
It's a big difference, but overall, the tactics, techniques, procedures, and the motivations of self-indulgence and self-importance are very similar, no matter what type of criminal uh that you're looking at.
So we're gonna take a break and uh just a second.
And I want to I want to come back and get some calls, so I'm gonna go ahead and take a break.
And uh I want you to go and get my book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
One thing about being aware is once you develop the awareness, it's like a Panda Wars box.
It just starts to unfold.
And like I said, the truckers going down the road, cops.
If if you have this book, cops, and you go up and you see you have a woman who's been beaten up, just give them that book.
Give them that book.
This book should be in all battered women's shelters.
This book should be in all school libraries.
This book should be in every member of Congress's hands.
And if you get it, you'll see what I'm talking about.
It's available in audio and in Kindle, in case you don't want to turn pages for some reason.
And it's available on paperback, which I suggest because you can actually carry the book with you, take notes on it, and look at your life this way.
Sheep No More, Sheep.
Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
This is a Sean Hannity Radio Show.
We're going to come back.
I'm going to get a couple of your calls.
We'll be right back.
This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for my good buddy Sean Hannity, Sean Hannity Radio Show, 800-941-7326.
I'm going to go to a couple of phone calls real quick.
Let's see.
Let's go to Phil in St. George, Utah.
Go ahead, Phil.
Yes, good afternoon.
Thank you for taking my call.
You got it, buddy.
Yes.
I am a uh Vietnam era vet uh Marine Corps.
And uh perhaps a little derogatory uh hook for your book is uh you're either the sheep or the sheepdog.
Yeah I agree with I agree with you.
I'm trying to make sheepdogs out of people so they won't be sheep anymore.
That runs through my head every time I leave the house.
Yeah.
Well you should get it and then give me a review and let me know honestly what you think.
I mean, see, you're the type of person that I really do want the feedback because if I if I have to alter this in any way, if people aren't getting it, um I need to know if the the other people out there that get it that understand awareness you know think that I'm sharing what needs to be shared.
Well, I've been in the Marine Corps for quite a while, and uh uh uh I was one of my duty stations with uh HMX One presence helicopter unit, but uh at any rate, the the reason I'm calling, I've been very uh uh uh Breach of the reason I'm calling is I want to find out.
I uh either uh either uh I've missed completely or uh it hasn't been spoken of at all.
What is going on in this country uh legislatively uh either happened or happening for the veterans of this country.
Well, I'll tell you something.
Yeah, you that is an excellent question.
And I was actually a little intimidated when I looked at that question, but I know in reflecting in some stuff, um I've interviewed um Secretary uh Shulkin uh three times over the past year, and I know one thing is that you have a secretary of the VA that is in tune with veterans.
He's in tune to the to the the to the um the fact that they tried uh to cut out uh a specific amount of money that was gonna go towards homeless vets, and the veterans raised such an uproar about that that they put it back in.
Now, it w it was a mistake to try to take it out to begin with, but I like having somebody there that listens to the veterans.
That is probably the biggest thing that's been done.
Uh the other thing is after talking to him, there's a lot of stuff in place that they're moving towards.
I think there's probably stuff that's getting done that's just not being verbalized properly.
Again, that's one of my biggest criticisms for the White House.
But you know, they're moving towards uh the the proper treatment in the VA.
They're still looking at whether or not they're going to uh have uh the health care for veterans that uh where they give them a card and they're able to go to hospitals, they're still working on all this stuff.
You know, look, Phil, here's the biggest problem with how veterans are treated in this country.
I can't really say that it's the president as much as it is Congress and their insistence on a speedy fix.
You know, I think the president showed that he can get things done rapidly and he can make Congress work together.
That's how he got this tax plan passed before Christmas.
But I don't see the same type of ferocious attack when it comes to uh uh formulating a solution to all these problems of veterans.
I really don't.
There's only one percent of the population.
You know.
Phil, you there?
Yes, I'm I'm I'm listening uh I'm listening with every uh ounce of uh uh uh ears I've got uh after the one five fives.
Uh anyway, um the uh uh uh I'm in St. George, Utah.
I'm uh uh 300 miles away one way and a hundred miles away from Vegas the other way.
But uh uh uh the uh uh health care, uh I mean I've got every health issue that you can think of that uh became a vegan agent orange uh and uh uh uh uh am uh just you know I mean Well say let me let me say let me say this, Phil.
Let me say this.
What I would like to see when it comes to health issues, you know, I'm dealing with this issue in my leg.
I was treated at the VA, they did a fantastic job.
I would like to say this to Shulkin.
Um I believe and I believe in the president.
We have to look at the VA as two different beings.
You have the medical experts and then you have the uh the bureaucracy.
It's like the it's like the DMV.
Um people show up with the same ideology as the DMV that work there a lot of the times.
And so we have to differentiate.
We have to get those standards in place where people can actually uh that are working there and support are on a professional level like the medical people.
And here's the other thing.
I'd never been to the VA.
I go to the emergency room there, and I was appalled at how many veterans walked in and act like jerks to people.
And that to me is one of the biggest things that could change in the VA is stop going in there assuming they're going to screw up and treating them like they're going to be bad.
I mean, that's that was I was appalled by that.
I almost at one point I almost stood up and told this one guy to shut up because I was so infuriated because he was in there wanting a doctor's note for something, this or that.
But listen, um, Phil, I don't know if I answered your questions, but I'm glad that we brought it up because if the word gets back to the president, we want to know.
There are people legitimately asking, what is being done for veterans?
This is Jonathan Gillam.
Phil, thank you.
God bless you, and thank you for your service, my friend, my brother, and all the Marines that are out there.
We'll be right back.
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This is Jonathan Gillam.
I'm the guy that's bringing you the inspired and bold solutions.
Hey, and I'm gonna bring my buddy Joe Conch on in one second.
I'm sitting here looking at some emails that uh they're reporting that were uh found on Uma Abedin's computer.
And uh let's see, I have one email, two, three, four.
That one's a long one with nothing on it.
None of these really have anything on it.
Oh, with the exception of it says classified on the bottom.
So I guess really the information that's been redacted in this case is not so important as the one, two, three, four, at least four that I have right now that um are classified on Uma Abedin's.
These were actually on Anthony Wiener's computer.
Um which was or still is Uma Abedin's.
Well, I'll tell you.
I'll tell you what difference it makes.
Was that Justin Trudeau?
I can never tell them apart.
I'm just chilling in Cedar Rapids.
So you know, here's the deal, folks.
Uh I talked about this at nauseum today on Newsmax on my show, The Experts.
And there is a different set of rules for uh the the uh ruling elite in this country and the rest of us, because i I listen, I would be in jail.
I don't care if I've been out of the bureau five years or twenty.
If they found on a computer, like let's say I something happened and they had to go into my computer and they found classified emails on there.
You're kidding me, I'd be in jail.
I'd be charged with this.
Um let's bring Joe Concha on.
Let's talk about all the things that have happened this past year, the way the media has um you know worked with this.
And Joe, I don't know if you heard me there just a second ago.
Uh I did a week of my show that I started in my apartment on Newsmax this week, the experts.
Um, we're we're still kind of talking to see if it gets picked up or not.
But uh you used to have a show called The Rap, which I used to be on there all the time.
I would I'd literally I'd love to see him bring that show back.
I love that show.
The Daily Rap.
You're bringing back some memory.
Is it 2015 glory days of Rick Unger and John Gilliam and uh the Jonathan, sorry.
That's very disrespectful for me not to go with the full name.
Uh and we had the Heather Hunter and the Brad Hirschfields and Carl Higbees.
I mean, we we had some good guys.
You love Higby, I know.
Oh, yeah, we're close friends.
Well, you're both SEALs, right?
Oh, yeah, we all seals love each other.
Oh, that's funny.
But so they do the show from your bedroom, huh?
This is this is like uh that that the Truman show with Jim Carrey.
Like the trues.
What's that guy's name?
Um the the um gosh, I'm forgetting his name now.
He's uh the actor, looks like a rock star, and he's uh British and always uh always that narrows it down.
Always greasy.
He does a thing called the trues uh and he does it from his bed.
No, this is not for my bed.
I actually have a studio in my apartment.
But now you know clothes, right?
I mean, this is a uh show on the up and up.
It's newsmax, so I assume it's family friendly.
Oh, very family friendly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's like this radio show, but condensed to an hour.
I'll have you on.
I can't wait to see this.
I'll have you on.
What time?
You got to this is this is where you actually have to promote it.
Well, we did it at one PM uh this week.
It's gonna be on one p.m.
Fri uh uh Monday, but uh from that point forward, you know, I don't know.
I don't know yet.
So they're trying out several different shows.
I'll make a call to uh somebody with the initials of CR and say, look.
Well, I challenged all the I challenged them all to a uh facial hair grow off today.
So we'll see.
I need to do that here on this show.
I'd love to see the back hair that you have to start with.
Russell Brandt about.
Russell Brandt, that's the guy.
Russell Brand, oh Foster.
Okay.
That was very successful.
And you guys are very much alike.
Yeah, oh yeah, we're totally totally alike, he and I. Okay.
What are we talking about?
So let's talk about right now, nothing.
Let's talk about let's talk about the news.
You know, um we we know a lot of the same people in the news.
Uh I'm no I'm not gonna say anything about your personal feelings about people, but I'm no fan of Brian Stelter.
I don't know how this guy went from being an entertainment reporter to see one of CNN's like um go to people when they want to criticize the president and all things Trump.
They go to him as his is though he has reliable sources, as he says.
Let me ask you with this in the news where people make this jump from you know, uh not such an expert in anything to all of a sudden being uh talking head where they're actually analyzing this stuff.
How bad let me be fair to let me be fair to Brian Stelter.
I mean, he he's always been a media reporter.
He started a blog back when he was in college and then made the jump to the New York Times and then CNN.
So he I don't know if he's ever really been an entertainment reporter.
He he's always mainly focused on media.
Um so yeah, he should he should talk about media.
I I think where Brian gets in a little trouble is he ends up becoming a uh political pundit or armchair psychiatrist when it comes to the president's mental health.
And and that's where I think some folks at home, and that's not not just Brian Stelter, it's it's a lot of people in this business where suddenly they're becoming experts at things that they never had any sort of education in before, and we're suddenly and not just the president's mental fitness, Jonathan is being analyzed, but Steve Schmidt, who uh who was the campaign manager for John McCain in 2008 during his presidential campaign, questioned the president's ment uh physical fitness.
Right.
He said he had a physical impairment when he got some dry mouth during one speech a couple of weeks ago.
And since then, clearly, when you see Trump speak, there's no problem there.
You know, you speak enough, you're gonna run into some problems uh once in a while, and then people start to say, well, he clearly has a physical impairment.
They start to talk about how he has to be removed from office, and that's why people hate the media so much because you got people talking about things where they have no friggin' idea what they're talking about.
I know.
And it it is it is so rampant where you have that type of analysis and those crazy, stupid fake stories.
And then on the other side of it, one thing I really want to ask you about media might media, uh Salon.com, these other um the one that really uh cracks me up uh is um the the one where they try to verify everything whether whether it's true or not.
Facebook was using them uh to verify stuff.
Um these different they're all left-leaning.
But with media, they're dangerous as far as is uh I know you've done stuff for media.
Um I wrote for him for years.
Yeah.
No, no, try to be honest with you.
When they go and they report stuff out of context, it is uh not only infuriating, but it's dangerous.
It's dangerous because it leads people down a road where they're more and more susceptible to these uh narratives that are based on lies.
I I don't know specifically uh the media story is.
You know what?
I shouldn't say media might as much as media matters.
I'm sorry, I'm getting the two media matters.
Well that's a different story.
But media's done it too to me before, but media matters is the one that's dangerous.
Uh well because they're they're weaponizing uh movements against conservatives.
Right.
Uh it this has been very well documented.
I I recommend to anybody if you're looking for some good winter reading, snuggle up by a fire and and get uh Cheryl Atkinson's new book, uh The Smear.
And she goes into great detail.
And then Cheryl Atkinson's no conservative, right?
She used to write about the Bush administration in very unglowing terms, in terms of and not just because of an opinion, she actually did research on things like Halliburton contracts during the Iraq War.
So she's tough on both administrations, whether it was Bush or Obama, and now she writes a book about how there are millions of dollars and tons of resources thrown at and look, we saw it with Sean Hannity, the guy you're filling in for today.
Uh campaigns targeted at advertisers trying to shame them into not advertising on certain shows anymore because they don't like the message, the messenger, and they want to take him out.
And they were successful with with with uh Bill O'Reilly, clearly, when when those allegations first came out, they got fifty advertisers, not them, but but many people on the left got fifty advertisers to boycott that show, and then Fox really had no choice.
And it was Sean Hannity, that effort's done almost on a daily basis by Media Matters, and it's just wrong.
It's censorship.
And I I just think that you know we was people have to stand up and start to call them out for what they are, but the millions are going to keep flowing into that organization, and it's not going to stop anytime soon.
You know, I started a thing um called the CQRF, the Constitutional Quick Reaction Force.
And so uh what I did was I try to get people rallied um that wouldn't necessarily rally uh behind somebody like Sean or other people myself on social media.
And I would love to see this uh the the gist of the the bulk of conservatives in this country get together and when they do this fake story on media matters, uh there's always uh uh there's always a uh a whole list of the comments by these leftists afterwards.
And those are the same trolls that will go on Sean's Facebook page or on his Twitter feed or on the president's thing and put a bunch of yellow bananas and all this nonsense on there.
Very derogatory, very nasty.
But I would love to see uh unification in the dialogue of conservatives to go on there and just troll these people.
Just they get they go from zero to a thousand in anger.
They just cannot handle it.
Well, yeah, that that's that's very interesting, right?
I mean, we saw the zero to a thousand uh with anger as far as Vanity Fair, and they do this harmless SNL kind of benign skit on Hillary Clinton and some habits that she should pick up for 2018, like New Year's resolutions, like knitting and walking in the woods more.
In other words, stop doing book tours and stop talking.
Well, she doesn't talk about, but there's enough speculation around Hillary Clinton running in 2020.
Right.
Uh and and and the vitriol from from the left on that was the same thing we saw with Jimmy Fallon when he had candidate Trump on his show, and he did a normal interview and he actually tried to mess up his hair and he humanized him and it got great ratings.
And ever since then, Jimmy Fallon's basically been ostracized, and and a lot of people have gone to Stephen Colbert as a result.
So, yeah, if you're kind to this administration in any capacity, whether that be Fallon or if you're a journalist and you actually say good things about the administration in terms of accomplishments, whether it be the ISIS Caliphate being destroyed, whether it be the economy roaring, whether it be judicial appointments, whatever, you're gonna be ostracized.
And if you go after somebody like Hillary Clinton or the left, particularly if you're Vanity Fair, when you're expected only to attack conservatives, you're gonna be ostracized or shamed to an apology, which Vanity Fair eventually had to issue.
It's pathetic how cowardly we are in this business in terms of not wanting to call out both sides.
Yeah.
Well, I I think when we talk about the business, though, the bulk of the business is left.
They're leftists.
So they're just it's not that they don't, they're not afraid that they're afraid to, they're just not gonna call out themselves.
Same thing happens in the deep state with all these people up when, you know, when Hillary Clinton goes before Congress uh for a hearing, it's 12 hours, and then she walks away, and everybody's like, that didn't amount to anything, because they don't want to eat their own.
Yeah, I think you know, we talk about safe spaces a lot, and we all have our safe spaces now.
We're all going to our little corners and just having our own beliefs validated and and no one wants to even hear about the other side.
And you're right, I mean, it it it doesn't matter with the with the left particularly, uh compromise is out the window now, right?
I'd be fascinated, Jonathan, to see what happens this year when President Trump wants to get infrastructure done.
And that's a democratic issue.
You're there when a Republican's supposed to do these big spending plans and in terms of improving our crumbling infrastructure, and Democrats are gonna have to work with them, but there's things called the midterms happening in November, so they don't want him doing something where he gets credit.
So I want to see if it really if people believe in what they say they believe in.
If Democrats really believe in infrastructure, let's see if they really do work with President Trump in terms of passing something.
I have a feeling that the whole thing's just gonna crumble and everybody's gonna point fingers and nothing's gonna get done, no problem solved, and that's our big problem right now.
I mean, listen, that's what you just said is typical of D.C. That's not really typical of Trump.
Let me so let's do this.
Let's take a break real quick.
I'm gonna hold you over if that's okay for a few minutes.
Come back from the break, and let's just cover cover a little bit more of the stuff that's happened this past year.
And like for instance, who nobody even knows a lot of the stuff that Trump's done because it doesn't get reported by mainstream media.
But hold on, Joe, we'll come right back.
This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
You can find me on Twitter, Jay Gilliam underscore Seal and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam.
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I'm gonna go ahead and say it again.
I'm like the truckers, Justin Bieber.
That's why they should go out and buy my book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
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You can find me on Twitter, Jay Gilliam underscore Seal, and then on Facebook, Jonathan T. Gilliam.
You can also find me on um YouTube, same name, and Instagram, but I don't really do a whole lot on Instagram.
I'm not really I don't I don't know.
We've gone down this weird narcissistic road.
Speaking of narcissists, Joe Conscience joining me again.
Hello.
Hey, listen, buddy.
What do you think is the biggest story of 2017?
I mean, that's a hard question to ask or answer.
Repeat the question again, Johnny.
What's the biggest story of 2017?
Go.
Oh President Trump.
I mean it's so obvious.
I just filed a story actually where we did the top ten stories of 2017, and that was easily uh the answer.
It starts off at the inauguration uh and it goes through just the most chaotic uh I'll give you a little uh inside um baseball here.
Uh with the uh Hill editors in mind.
I work for the Hill, obviously as a media reporter.
We were trying to condense the top ten stories of this year, and we're trying to decide what goes on that list.
And I swear, John, I mean, we couldn't come down to twenty before we start in other words, there's so many different things that happened.
Uh in terms of President Trump, here you have a guy who's about forty percent approval in the real clear politics average.
He ended the year with great momentum in terms of the tax bill, and he had a lot of accomplishments that it that our media simply did not report, whether it be uh, you know, the not just Judge Gorsuch, forget that with the Supreme Court, but all the circuit court judges that he was was was able to install at an historic rate, right?
Uh the economy doesn't get too much play, even though we've had three percent G VP growth for two consecutive quarters with this tax bill, that could very easily extend to four or six consecutive quarters, which is gonna make the two thousand eighteen midterms very interesting if you have a strong economy.
And you could just go on and on.
The ISIS Caliphate, I think, is the most underrated story in terms of that being destroyed.
Yeah, so we can talk about that.
So, yeah, obviously, President Trump dominated the news like no other president has in any year in any history, and he is easily the number one story, good, bad, ugly, polarizing, in your face, whatever you want to say, depends on how you voted, I guess, is how to how you look at him.
Uh, he was the dominant force, and everything revolved around him.
Now, um, that's interesting because I I feel like that is the case.
What do you think, though, about from your perspective?
I think this guy's a hero, Ronan Farrow and what he did.
I mean, if there's one person besides Trump you got a pick that really threw a wave in or a rock and caused a massive wave in an area where nobody else had had the guts to do that, that was pretty incredible what he did.
Ronan Farrow was uh MSNBC host.
They put him on, like you, he was on a one o'clock in the afternoon.
And you know, I I'd watch him be like, you know, this kid just doesn't have it as a host.
But his reporting was always, you know, pretty strong.
And you know, sometimes you just gotta find what your niche is.
And sure enough, he goes ahead with this Weinstein story.
Joe, I gotta cut it.
You don't have enough.
You don't have enough, and he went to another publication and got it published anyway, and he started that whole movement that you're seeing now.
Gotta go, buddy.
You got it, my friend, Joe Concha.
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We purposely, Linda and I sat down today and we said, we need to give callers a chance to talk.
I know we don't do a lot of calls on this show.
Sometimes we do, sometimes we don't, but I want to give some callers uh time to uh talk about this year in and uh that's gone by really fast, try to actually tell you the truth.
And really strange year.
A lot of great successes.
Um kind of uh coupled with uh huge issues and problems and like I'm being successful in many different ways in my professional life, but yet I've got a leg that I practically crushed on a scooter.
So how many of you can say that?
So let's go to let's go to Stacy in New York.
Stacey in New York, go ahead.
Hi, how are you?
So I got your book, Sheep No More, and I haven't read it yet, obviously, because I just got it.
Yeah.
But I want to know what to tell kids.
Yep.
I have three kids, and I'm always thinking how old are they?
If they get in uh twelve, nine, and six.
Obviously the youngest, it's gonna be hard, but you know I'm gonna write a book for them next.
I'm actually gonna get a book for them uh next.
Um I'm actually working on that right now.
Yeah, that and a journal so you can put this stuff out.
Those are the two things that I that I want to give people so they can use what you what you're gonna see in the book.
But let me let me uh let me tell you this about about kids.
Because that was one.
As we all were so I remember at nine years old being completely aware of the world.
I I specifically remember that.
I grew up very poor, and so I had a lot of uh very um big memories of certain incidents that happened when I was younger, and nine years old, I was completely aware.
Six years old, I'm still learning.
But here's the key to this.
It's with the six year old, it's the what if game.
Hey, what if this happened?
What if somebody came up to you and slowly develop the standard operating procedures with them on how they react with the nine-year-old and the twelve year old, you literally can sit down with them and talk to them about who would want to attack, what kinds of attacks would happen, uh, why those people would want to attack, where it could happen, when it could happen, and how it could be carried out.
I mean, most kids at nine years old now have seen stuff on TV about terrorism.
They've understood the uh that uh sexual predators are pedophiles are out there, and I think they can be shown some of these things.
And as I lay out in the book, in order for you as a parent to teach this, you have to be aware of it.
And I think ultimately that's the thing.
I mean, look, whether people read my book or not, uh, here's the gist of this, and I want you to go into 2018.
I wrote it so people would be um empowered in this country.
I can't I can't understand why the the government says if you see something, say something, but they don't tell you what to look for or where to look for it.
So my goal is to is to empower you, and as a a parent, you probably have about you know five to seven sectors in your life.
You know, you you wake up in the morning um and you're there at at home, and then uh your commute to work, you put the children, they go to their next sector, uh you commute to work.
If you do go to work or you're at home, um you commute back, the kids come back, everybody's at home.
Um then when you're sleeping, that's another sector.
If you go out to a stadium and arena, that's a sector, church, any of these uh any of these places that you go, whether it be eating, you go there quite a bit, each one of these things have their own threat.
They have their own vulnerabilities, they have their own areas where bad guys will target.
And some people, like sexual predators, um, will take a a period of time, whether it's you know, the guys like Harvey Weinstein or Matt Lauer or some creep that works in office, they're gonna take time to develop um their their plan of attack, their target package on whoever they're gonna go after.
Same thing with pedophiles that will work their way into a family.
You once you learn that, you can then communicate that with the children.
And then in cases like um when it comes to the Manchester attack where uh the uh Ariana Grande concert was uh attacked.
If you if you understand the people that will attack you and you look at uh the history of how they carry out attacks and when things change, like 9-11, it became modified.
You know that if something happens on a plane, it's probably not gonna go to Cuba and say let me off.
Right.
So you're your mind changed as well when their uh tactics evolved.
So you have to change the way you think.
In Manchester had uh the people realize that uh these terrorists were there and they were looking for more targets.
You could have said to yourself, if I was an attacker and I'm going to this uh stadium and arena, where is the most likely place that these people are gonna congregate?
And you would have figured out at the end where it's least secured and told your kids stay there until it's over with and wait ten minutes or leave early and I'll pick you up down here where nobody else is at.
So once you get this mindset, uh Stacey, you can then start to communicate that to your children in the language that you have with them.
Yeah, because I think I have the mindset, but it's just trying to translate that to them and say, like, you know, if there's a threat at school when you're not gonna be there.
Yeah.
You know, a teacher's gonna tell you one thing, but that may not be the best thing.
Well, there's one of these schools, I don't remember which one, forgive me for that, but there was a six year old kid that when the shooting happened, he had already his parents said if anything like that ever happens, get out of the school and run.
That kid ran and ran like four scump and he lived.
Other kids died.
Yeah.
So I said my side, don't power in a in a closet with all your schoolmates, you get out and you go.
There's escape, evade, and run, or fight, excuse me.
Escape, evade, and fight.
Running doesn't really give you a tactical understanding.
Um when you escape, you're trying to get out of there as fast as possible.
You may have to stop and take cover or concealment.
You need to know the difference between those two.
Uh evading means you're gonna hide, but you're gonna continue to move.
And uh we preach um, you know, shelter in place, and I don't like that terminology.
Uh but also, you know, sometimes for yourself, you may have to fight and if you wait, um, like if you're for teachers and somebody walks in their room, they drop a bac uh a backpack on the ground and they start fishing through it five minutes after class has started, that's not normal.
And teachers should be allowed to react to that.
And I'm telling you, they don't let you carry a gun, uh, there's gonna be um uh I don't know, a metal ruler or a stapler that's gonna be bashed over somebody's head.
Uh we need to start thinking like that, but you can't think like that if you don't understand what's normal or what's not.
And that's what this book does.
Yeah, I can't I will definitely get your other books.
Like I said, I've already got the sheep no more.
I just haven't had every chance to read it yet, but I I definitely want something for kids 'cause I you know I'm like, we need something for that 'cause I'm not a liberal and I'm not gonna tell my kid, no yeah, this is not gonna happen.
Right.
He knows the real world happens.
He listens to Sean, he listens to things like that, and he's like, Why don't people know about the real world?
And I'm like, I'm glad you do, but I want you to know more.
Well, Stacey, first of all, you're a super mom because it sounds like you might be conservative and you live in New York.
So listen, I'm here in New York as well.
So now I know there's at least another one here.
So God bless you.
Listen, Stacey, I'm gonna run.
Um God bless you and your children.
Make sure that when you go through that, if you have any questions, find me on Twitter or on Facebook, direct message me.
I will I will answer questions if I have time.
So don't uh don't be afraid to reach out.
Great, I appreciate that.
Have a great new year.
Let's go to uh is it Dino in Texas.
Yes, just you know.
Dino, great name.
Tell your parents thank you for that name.
That's a great name.
Yes, um, I got I got seized a lot.
You know, when I was younger too, I got I was bullied and um because I was a runt, but I got tired of it and I went on a bully hunt and I lasted for about five years.
Yeah.
And they they didn't they didn't mess with me.
Eight out of ten of them were all caught.
I love it.
Two of 'em.
Two of them that I had to fight, they say, I'm I'm just just throwing a number out there.
I lost half of them, but they respected me.
So I respect you.
I want you on my side, Dino.
Yeah, but anyways, I I did five tours.
I did a tour in dead of storm, three in OEF, one in OIF.
And um, when I go to establishments, yeah, especially it's funny on dates too, because I'm single, happily divorced.
Um, I always tell them, hey, just understand that I just think I always say like this, break it down.
Think of the Jason Bourne speech.
Um I had to sit face in the door.
Yeah.
Um I see people in, I gotta look at them and check them out as they c walk by me.
And um, I'm always always I'm always keeping my eyes standing because I don't know any better because when I I was a still up for officers and we had to do these cubicle engagements, and we always had to be careful because um we could be easy to be taken out like that.
Yeah, you know, because we're we're we're busy talking and engaging to the Q leaders, all that stuff like that.
We always had to be careful, but we ha we had to keep it in a non-threatening post.
So me out of the habit, I always kept my hand close to my M4s.
I had them already.
But you had to know where the you had to know where the threat was coming from and who the threat who posed the threat and what vulnerabilities they could mitigate.
Exactly, because you know, we were doing these little engagements on the Afghan side of the pops, and you know the the green on blue issues they were having over there.
And we had when I was there in 2013, we had several of them happen.
So that was always in the back of my head, it I don't be that guy.
So I do that.
Most girls laugh at it.
Um, some girls don't understand.
Some girls think I'm checking other people out because literally I'm looking at people as they walk in because I'm sizing them up.
I'm not gonna be like chasing one.
Oh, I can run two miles and before I know what my hands are shaking and all that for the cat.
You know.
But I always tell them I I I know I like to know what's going on and keep my situational winners up.
So I I'm in the process of reading your book.
Yeah.
But I had I had to take a break because I had to presume resume I hit my book.
I'm on I'm uh I'm a published novelist myself.
Awesome.
Fiction fiction novelist.
Oh wow.
Yeah, I took a five-day break and I read about two chapters of your book, and then I got tired of sitting on do nothing.
Get the audio book then.
Yeah.
Um I listen to music when I write, so anyway, so I can do a quick plug if you don't mind.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Hi, I'm Dino Guterres.
I'm the I'm the novelist for Strandit, the Long Journey Home.
It's a fiction based on um when when the craft hits the fan, and um a father and son has to get back to Southeast Texas from Yellowstone.
Got it.
So got it.
All right, brother.
Listen, I'm gonna let you go because I got I'm gonna try to get well, let me I'm gonna let you go.
I'm gonna fill some people in on some stuff.
God bless you.
Thank you for your service, Dino.
Love the name.
And listen, uh, I forgot to say this to Stacey.
Stacy a second ago when you called.
I've got a buddy in Texas, and we've been talking a lot about this.
Um, he owns a company called Vets Manufacturing.
It's if you go online, it's V E T S M F G. And he makes uh really lightweight body armor that you can put in your kids' backpacks.
Um also you can carry it in in your purse.
You can get um different types of first aid packs that you can put in your purse as well or the backpacks, and that will and these things uh it's amazing what they'll stop uh and up to a shotgun.
So it really does give you um some protection, more than you would have, and if your kid is running away, he's got a backpack on it, or they can turn around and face uh the threat if they have to with that backpack and actually um really get uh some security there.
Uh you can go to Vets Mfg uh dot com and put in JTG, that's my initials, JTG 10, and you'll get a 10% discount.
So I'm not just plugging his stuff.
I think this is something real, along with awareness, every advantage that you can get, take it.
And Vets M F G V E T S M F G dot com.
Go on there and look at all stuff.
Also, truckers, he's thinking about you, and he's putting some stuff together that's also bulletproof that truckers may want to check out.
So go check that out.
JTG 10 is the code.
And then get the book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
You put all this stuff together with the awareness and the knowledge of how attackers think.
I'm telling you, folks, you're gonna mitigate the majority of attacks that would happen to you.
I don't care if it's sexual harassment, pedophiles, terrorists, robbers, you can outthink them all.
They're not that smart.
This is Jonathan Gillum filling in for my good buddy Sean Handy on the Sean Handy Radio Show.
We'll take a break.
We're gonna come back and finish it up, and then I'm not gonna talk for a week so I can rest my voice.
We'll be right back.
This is Jonathan Gillum.
And man, this show couldn't end quick enough because my voice is like right there on the edge of disappearing, but it was worth it.
It was totally worth it.
This week and this year have been so phenomenal um for me in so many different ways, and one of the ways was because Linda and Sean have invited me to be on here.
Um believe it or not, I wrote a book in two months and got it published.
I mean, I don't know how many people can do that.
I wrote that book as a long time coming.
I mean, I've been thinking about this book for over ten years, but it just culminated when I finally got a a uh publisher that said, Oh yeah, we'll do it, but you gotta do it within two months.
And so I did it.
I sat down, had two beer, two to three beers every night, and a pot of coffee at about ten o'clock at night, and I pumped that thing out, which was nothing compared to reading it.
Five and a half, five hours fifty-three minutes is the audio book, and it was a month it took me to read that thing.
So I'll just put it to you this way.
I may have some problems saying certain words because I have a southern accent and it's mixed with New York.
I don't know.
I'm again transparency.
We're in in the end of the year with transparency.
But I want to say thank you to all the people that listen to the show whenever I'm on the feedback I get, the truckers that are out there, the moms that are out there, um, the the cops, the uh other seals.
I can't thank you enough for the feedback.
It I take it all seriously.
I try to answer your emails, and I want to have more of a personal relationship than most people who are in media would have because I want to tell the truth and I want to know if you get it.
That's the important part of it.
Also, if you know more than I do, I need to know that.
I'm not above somebody telling me that this is not right or you need to tweak it this way.
But if I don't agree, I'm gonna come back at you.
That's what's gonna happen.
Listen, you can find me on Twitter, JGilliam underscore seal, and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam.
My show, The Experts, may be on Newsmax permanently.
We'll see.
It's definitely gonna be on there Monday at 1 p.m.
Go get my book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
It's on Amazon.
I know it says sold out.
They'll get it to you.
It's on Barnes and Noble and in the bookstores.
The truth, whenever you hear me, the truth has arrived.
Happy New Year.
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