Russell Brand and Alex Jones dissect Trump's alleged dementia-driven betrayal of his promises, citing Epstein cover-ups and nuclear threats against Iran. They advocate for decentralized, food-independent communities to resist globalist control, with Jones detailing his spiritual conversion and legal battles against a fraudulent FBI/CIA auction. Discussing the "Holy One" as an operating system against a satanic dominator system, they warn of impending wars involving Iran and a "Hunta virus," urging listeners to run for office or create autonomous nodes before total institutional collapse. [Automatically generated summary]
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The Day We Went Sideways00:12:22
There, you awakening wonders.
This is the day that we have Alex Jones on the show, so it's difficult to be enthusiastic about anything else.
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Alex Jones, thank you for joining us today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
Russell, thank you so much for having me on.
The final saga of InfoWars is finally here, and it's a big deal.
The CIA, the FBI, it's declassified.
Ran all these operations.
The Trump administration's Todd Blanch AG killed the investigation into what they did six months ago.
And it's just emblematic of how Trump's gone sideways.
I'm so sad about it.
We really wanted him to succeed.
And we know in many ways he's better than Democrats.
But we now see Trump coming out yesterday and saying, I don't care about the American people's financial situation.
All I care about is war.
A month ago, he said, I don't care about Medicare and Medicaid.
We're a war country now.
It's as if the old Trump got possessed by a demon or something.
And so that's where we are right now.
What a moment to be alive.
The global awakening, the tyranny is only accelerating.
So we don't rise and fall on Trump.
He just wrote it on the populist wave.
And we're all here continuing steadfastly, like you've done, to not compromise and tell the truth.
Well, listen, sometimes I do feel compromised, Alex.
Sometimes I'm very aware of my fallenness and my brokenness.
And you're, of course, one of the people that I look to.
Indeed, one of the moments on my already notorious Piers Morgan appearance that I found most difficult was when I tried to explain.
And I kind of wish I could have been in here in that moment with your beautiful spirit.
That if you were to look at the media landscape 20 years ago, it was evident that most people trusted blue chip, familiar insignia, mainstream media institutions, whether that's the BBC or New York Times.
But now, and that's to some significant degree due to sacrifices you've borne personally, people regard those institutions with great cynicism.
Now, the problem I think that comes with this time of mass distrust.
Disorder and fragmentation is that people find it very difficult to orient ourselves.
You know, like even take this story that we're talking about right now that you, one of the great advocates for Trump, one of the most serious and senior voices for Trump, certainly in the space in which you've dominated, succeeded, flourished for many years, you are turning away from Trump and recognizing that even a character as idiosyncratic, significant, and at points magnificent as Donald Trump is ultimately Just another pawn,
just another piece being moved around on this chessboard.
Was there a significant moment when you had that realization?
How do you look back at your earlier support of Trump?
And does Trump's failure in the White House, if that's how you would characterize it, mean that this type of politics is actually over?
That none of us can ever get it up again for any candidate?
Whether it's a coffee colored wonder like the brilliant Barack Obama, whether it's some sort of new age guru type, whether it's this exciting, priapic, and ever quipping Donald Trump, once they're in the system, they're going to do what the system does.
Do you think this is a significant moment, Alex?
And have you had, even though you're a man who seems to live in a permanent state of epiphany sometimes, I think that's why the culture finds you in some quarters at least hard to deal with.
My question is, mate, do you think that this is a further pivotal moment where now it's like there can be no trust of anyone?
Well, the best way to describe this is the left in the last six, eight months when I started really coming out against Trump because he'd gone sideways.
So much.
I wasn't expecting perfection, but he really started to deviate when he kicked out Elon Musk and Elon said, you know, Trump's in the Epstein files.
Then Trump did direct the cover up of the files and got so angry at MTG and others, you know, when they forced it through Congress.
And we just learned the devastating information that was even wilder that I thought would actually be in there.
And they already held back more than half of it.
So imagine what they did release.
The left's like, oh, you now admit your 10 years of support for Trump was a lie and it was a fraud and you were a con.
No.
When they used to call him a liar on issues, I know all the major issues.
He was very accurate.
Very truthful on average.
Not perfect.
None of us are, but like a 97% accuracy rate, I would say.
And then with the cover up of Epstein, the shutting down of Doge, all the insider trading going on that even makes Nancy Pelosi blush.
She was the previous grand champion.
Now, Trump and all the sons of his cabinet are literally just raking in at every level.
And then promising not to go into war with Iran.
If you elect Kamala, it's World War III with Iran.
The Pentagon even telling him, and they're not going to fall, they're going to close the straight.
It's going to kill your recovery.
That was unanimous.
It was only the Mossad and Netanyahu that told Trump they'll fall in four days.
There'll be an uprising.
It's going to be great.
That was 75 days ago.
So I went from being somewhat critical, trying to get him back on track, until we saw this event 75 days ago.
And I said, okay, now I've really got to go after him and get him back on track.
And then about five weeks ago, when he said, we will destroy all of Iran's culture in one day, they will never return, they will be a dead people, basically, the definition of genocide.
That type of megalomaniac statement, I came out and said, You got to be 25th Amendmented if you keep saying it.
He came out a day later and said, No, I won't nuke him.
I said, Okay, great.
So that was tough love.
Then he said last week, If they don't do a deal, we will turn them into one giant glowing crater.
That's another nuclear threat.
So it's that type of megalomania and then political suicide in the midterms to say, I don't care about Medicaid or Medicaid.
And now I don't care about the American people's finances.
I don't even think about that.
That's a quote yesterday, just the disconnect there.
I really believe a lot of the doctors that have assessed him that he has frontal lobe early stage dementia, meaning the rest of the brain's operating.
And my grandfather, my mom's dad had frontal lobe dementia.
He'd be totally normal sometimes.
The last year he was alive, totally crazy other times.
And I mean, I think we have the madness of King George here.
And so Trump was like a great warhorse that got us so far or a horse that won a bunch of races and you love it and it's great.
But then once it goes crazier, once it breaks a leg, that's it.
And so I just think we need to point out that.
Trump has become everything he claimed he was going to oppose.
He still has RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard and a lot of good people's administration.
The Border Patrol's been doing his job.
So I'm not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
I just cannot underwrite and be an apologist and sign on.
Like I'd say, a third of the old Trump supporters, you know, Gorka, the head of counterterrorism now, says basically Tucker Carlson's a terrorist.
We're investigating him, you know, all of this.
And that's what I was going to say earlier.
We're at the Great Awakening.
We've gone out of the beginning of the beginning into the end of the beginning.
We're going into the middle part of this or the second act of this.
And the globalists know they've lost.
So all they can do is.
Okay, who's prominent, who's liked, who's telling the truth?
Investigate them, set them up, put them in prison.
Everything they've done to you, they tried to do to me.
It just never hit the newspapers as much.
Some of it did because it was just, you know, I wasn't as prolific as you.
They didn't have as many people to set me up.
So that's why I automatically knew it was crap.
So anybody, whether it's Tucker Carlson, whether it's Candace Owens, whether it's Megyn Kelly, whether it's you or me, you have to understand that they are coming after us because they know that we can't be bought.
We're committed, we're not perfect.
We realize we're fallen in sinners.
But the value, the spiritual energy, the high of doing what's right, the Holy Spirit saying, Good job.
You could put a gun to my head and I couldn't sell out.
I can't do it because the spiritual feeling is such a high, it's so fulfilling to fight evil.
I'm totally addicted.
People say, Oh, thank you for what you do.
I'm completely an addict to fighting tyranny, an addict to the Holy Spirit.
I mean, I love this one side and up.
That's why I thank the listeners supporting me and spreading the word and keep missing on air because they're keeping me in the fight.
This is all I want.
And I look at you, I've been watching you for decades, interviewing you for over like 12 years or so.
And you were somewhat reformed 12 years ago, but you still were a giant of a guy and a powerful presence.
But since you found God, you're glowing, you're radiating.
Everything you say is so much more eloquent.
That's what I want more of.
When you serve the living God, it is just endless expansion and discernment and literal mental superpowers.
That's why I feel sorry for the Satanists and people that ever found God because they don't know what they're missing.
I love you for saying that.
That's so kind of you.
What I feel we might, the point we might be at, Alex, in our culture, because I've never been able to doubt your integrity.
You're a person that maybe a million times a day I would think, oh my God, that's crazy what he's saying.
And then subsequently I'd do some reading or research or I'd open a link or someone else would explain it in a different, more scientific, more academic, more credentialed and professional way.
And time after time, that famous meme, Alex Jones was right, would come to fruition again.
You've got the kind of beauty, prophetic, beautiful prophetic craziness that the world in so many ways needs.
And what I think is astonishing.
Is that when you were advocating for Trump, it seemed still very mercurial and sort of crazy.
You know, like I think it was when you were, when he spoke to you directly from the Oval Office of the Oval Office Well,
and yet, you know, and yet here we are.
And I get, I'm not as brave as you, I have to say.
I'm sometimes just scared because of the legal trials I'm facing, because I'm an Englishman in your beautiful country.
I sometimes feel like if I'm too assertive on the subjects that most people recognize as being quite close to the center of world power right now Israel, Palestine, genocide, Trump's co option.
Trump will come out and call you a traitor and say you're an idiot like he did to myself and others repeatedly the last month.
Yeah.
And people said, oh, how do you like that?
I mean, I'm glad he got mad and attacked me because that means I'm getting his attention.
And I'm trying to get him back on track because he has Mark Levin and all these horrible people advising him.
So, I mean, but yeah, when he targets you, now we have the head of counterterrorism now saying he wants to come after Trump's original supporters in a national security memorandum.
Well, I mean, that just proves what we're saying.
So, we have to protect humanity from the spirit that has invaded the White House.
But it isn't possible, I don't think, Alex Jones, for you to influence Trump if Trump is now.
Operating in spheres of power and influence, the manner of which you describe, and you alluded in your last answer to a supernatural and good versus evil component, which I know informs you hugely.
Grabbed by the Throat00:03:07
Indeed, my own journey to Christ, which I suppose I would describe as being grabbed by the throat by Christ and thrust into new light in the brokenness of personal crisis.
One of the things that's been, I want to say, validating is that I'm a person that's consumed your content since I was 16 years old.
Yours, David Icke, reading Eric von Daniken's Spaceships of the Gods, doing LSD, trying to make sense of this world, going through the socialist phase, learning about Che Guevara, recognizing that you can never trust the establishment, that the government, whoever you vote for, you're going to get bureaucratic systems that ultimately operate with the same globalist imperatives.
I've known that for a long while, like because of people like you and, you know, other influences from across the political, cultural, and philosophical spectrum bolted together like any autodidact, anyone who's educated themselves because they didn't go to university or whatever.
I've got that kind of perspective.
Now, when I come to the Lord, it happened very viscerally and not even, it wasn't an option or a decision.
Just suddenly I went from, oh yeah, Jesus, he's a great prophet like Buddha or whatever, to, oh my God, he's actually real.
And since then, I've understood the necessity of the resurrection, the requirement of him taking all shame on the cross, the need for him to be absolutely perfect, the simple beauty in scripture, the truth of the prophecies.
About him in the Old Testament.
And what I'm trying to work out now, Alex, is how that conversation is going to unfold with people that are new age, with people that are broken, with people that are the types of Christian that are right now in office praying, laying hands on Trump, praying for war, praying for death, excluding and making moral and ethical judgments, making it impossible for people of other faiths to have open dialogue with Christians, making it impossible for people of other faiths to have open dialogue.
Well, exactly.
You can see the energy.
Of the fake Christians around him.
It's purely satanic.
And you know, Christ is the groom, we're the bride.
And when he comes knocking at the door and then we accept it, it's described as literally a union, and then God takes us.
And you know, that's the thing.
And so people say, why do I start spewing stuff or why do I get so energetic?
It's because most of what I do is I have a template of how the world works temporarily and I study it, but only so when God gives me information, I understand it.
And then I'm just basically streaming the information.
And so, with my limited intellect trying to describe this incredible beauty and complexity, and like I'm given like every angle of how it all works and the whole system and on any topic, and I'm like, blah, And so it comes off as crazy.
That's why people that get this download look crazy because you're just literally like channeling a fire hose of information.
Yeah.
Like, well, last time I came on InfoWars, and do let us know whatever we can do to support you and to support InfoWars for even for the haters who loathe Alex Jones, not I got no business or no time for you.
You've got to recognize Alex.
Tuning Toward God's Plan00:13:38
I can give you a major update on that.
Oh.
Well, let me hold on.
Let me do it.
Let me finish my spill, mate.
You know, like when I was there in your crazy place selling your supplements, then like I sat there quietly like a good Christian man doing what I was supposed to.
Except for that bit where we'd done push ups.
And I was very excited to go on that walk, by the way, when me and you talked about going trespassing and all that sort of stuff.
What I want to say is that you cannot question the authenticity of Alex Jones.
What I'm going to be talking about after we come back from this break is how we manage to communicate the principles of Christianity to a non Christian audience in a way that doesn't seem churchy, preachy, or I don't know, pallid, Lacking in.
Power and potency.
That's one thing i'm going to be asking Alex Jones about.
Two i'm going to be saying, does this now represent the threshold where we abandon once and for all any faith in the system?
Not, of course, to become despondent no, but to focus on new systems of government, people powered democracy, participatory democracy and i'm going to be asking Alex Jones about that.
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Alex Jones, hot mind, hot microphone, hot in every single direction.
The great Alex Jones, my screen.
The magnificent and amazing Alex Jones.
The mic was up there, Alex, and I heard you saying all sorts of amazing stuff about Katy Perry being in the occult and all sorts of wonderful things.
We mute the mics over this side.
Now, I want to say this.
I did not have any sense that Katy Perry was in the occult.
I start to worry about it now that she's.
Again, with old Justin Trudeau.
No, no, that was her dad who wanted to come to the show and said that.
Her dad came on and said that.
No, that's crazy stuff, man.
Hey, Alex, well, we can talk about that if you wanted.
But what I wanted to talk about is what I was chatting about before the break just there.
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I know Amazon has its problems.
Everything has its problems.
Indeed, these kind of systemic problems are precisely what I'm trying to understand and learn from, from an elder here, Alex Jones.
I would say he's an elder in this space.
One of the things we do these days is iconoclastically bring down those that have gone before us.
Gandhi was a great guy.
Was he, though?
Didn't he sleep in a bed with his nieces?
Martin Luther King, wasn't he a good leader?
Well, he was having sex with his secretary.
Oh, okay.
Well, I guess everyone's broken.
Everyone's ruined.
We should just give up, should we?
And let the globalist imperialists dominate us.
And just yield to the digital ID, the surveillance, and the senselessness.
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What I was asking, Alex, is doesn't, if you want to call it the capitulation of Trump or the failure of Trump, in addition to the challenges you're facing now at InfoWars, which are exactly the kind of problems that I would preempt if you don't have any allies amidst the powerful like who you know, all that's left is the people, all that we have is each other now, all we have is the possibility of building alliances where the technological revolution finally delivers on its threat, the same way that Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.
Massively disrupted the ability to control finance and channels like yours with the new information space meant the hegemony of centralized media was annihilated.
They know what's coming down the pipe is the disruption of politics.
There's no need for centralized, institutionalized politics anymore that always yields to global power.
We can truly have bottom up, grassroots democracy.
Run your community democratically using the technology that they want to use to ensure facial recognition technology is implemented in my country, for one thing.
Digital ID, that's also in my country.
My country, it seems to me, Alex, is being used to pilot schemes that will ultimately be implemented across the globe when they use, you know, Project 2030 or all the stuff you know more about than me to fully implement centralized authority.
So if you don't have any allies in the White House or in Congress or in Parliament in my country, we've got to go direct to the people.
How concerned are you that they're cutting those ties through censorship and control?
And do you think now is the time for us to actually be directly involved in politics?
Running for office and attempting to change the very systems that we know convert even the best intentioned leaders into plebs and larvae of the evil hive mind.
Well, those are all excellent points.
I want to answer those.
But you said something before the break.
I'm trying to remember.
I wanted to answer about Christianity or about how do we reach out to people, not with beat them over the head with the Bible or with the controlled, fake, you know, Christianoid establishment systems that are set up to turn people off.
I mean, I think that was your question.
And.
Yeah, it's one of them.
I mean, the answer here is you use Carl Jung.
Okay, I would start with an atheist or a liberal this way.
Okay, let's talk about archetypes.
There is good versus evil.
And we know that when we resonate towards good and we resonate towards the good forces of the universe, it helps us and it helps others.
And I can tell you, the globalists themselves, none of them are atheists.
They believe in the occult, they believe they serve the devil.
They know exactly what they're doing.
So I would just challenge people out there to reach out to Jesus Christ.
And say, look, I want to believe in you.
Show yourself to me, sometimes physically or through things.
I want to believe I'm knocking on the door.
You're knocking on the door.
I'm reaching out to you in good faith, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Son of God.
Show me and just see what God does and just see how things change.
Okay.
And it could be because our God is the God of the universe that created all this.
That is the first mission.
And then realize you think you're turned off of these establishment churches.
Most of them are a bunch of establishment, globalist, leftist, ecumenical, Rockefeller Foundation over 100 years ago.
To go in and take over the churches of the world to turn people off.
So that is my message there.
And then you also talk about I never put my faith in a leader, a cult of personality, as if I thought Trump would fix it all.
But a lot of people did.
And he did a lot of good.
And he began to go sideways for whatever reason.
So we don't get disheartened by that.
We realize that he was just one vehicle, just here to do that.
And populists are winning everywhere.
The Great Awakening's here, the fourth turning's here.
And we had a Deimos just yesterday.
The talking point was.
AI will save us.
God isn't real, but now it exists.
We've made a God.
We should worship AI.
It is going to be our savior.
And so we understand no, that is not going to be our savior.
AI is just the true narcissism where you're looking into the pool and see your own face and are in love with it.
It just scrapes our content, our music, our ideas, our literature, our culture, and shows it back to us in a very beautiful, integrated way.
That is even more an example of how we are amazing, made in the image of God, as Genesis says, not God, but the image of God, little g, as creators, basically God's original AI.
And We have to then fight tyranny, but also not hate tyranny and those involved in it because they are lost.
They are the failures.
They have succumbed to it.
And the devil's the great accuser.
He has a lot of tricks.
He doesn't exist.
Good doesn't exist.
So you don't think there's anybody good.
But also, one of the biggest tricks of the devil is the accuser once we have a conscience, once we dial into God, we can see our own sin, we want to make it better.
The devil says, well, see, you've done all this stuff.
And so you're not.
Good enough to actually lead anybody.
You need to just sit down and shut up.
No, we announce like you do the things that you've done that are wrong as an example to others to let them know that they can get out of what they were into.
They can get out of the bondage.
I've certainly not been some choir boy.
I've certainly gone through my trials and tribulations.
And that's what God's doing is like a truck, four wheel drive trying to get out of the mud.
And God wants to see that struggle.
And as long as we commit to that, God doesn't like Oprah Winfrey, just give us everything we want like a secret.
You imagine that you get it.
Some of God's greatest gifts were unanswered prayers, to quote Garth Books.
But when you're in alignment with God, you do the right thing.
God, in almost every case, especially in my life, will open the doors up.
When doors close, if you don't give up like Job, believe in God, more doors will even open.
So God wants us to take full action, commit, and then He will take us the final few steps over.
And that's what this is about.
So this is about dialing into the universe that God created.
This is about interfacing with God.
And these evil people and groups don't want us to realize.
That we are electrochemical computers.
They declassified it last month.
We're a liquid crystal that is totally empathic and absolutely psychic.
All the universities have proven it that we are all interconnected.
The sixth sense is more important than our eyesight, our smell, our olfactory, our taste, our feel.
It is the real sense.
The sixth sense is the greatest of all the senses.
And as we open that up, it's a radio channel or TV channel.
We have to tune it towards God and his plan and not towards Satan's plan.
And so it's all about the personal choice.
That I'm going to aim my antenna at God.
Sure, I've aimed it the wrong place before.
That's okay.
God made us.
He understands that.
And the more you resonate with God, the stronger and stronger it gets.
And so this is really an amazing adventure.
And it's not an adventure we're selling as a cult or do what we say or do these special things, these rituals.
We're saying the God of the universe is real.
Reach out to God, point your antenna out there and say, God, help me.
And God will.
If you do it from a pure, repentive heart, seeking God's face, He will heal our land.
That's so beautiful.
That really helped me to understand that.
Thank you.
That you can personally invite Christ into your life.
Yeah, you better hide those fags, cigarettes in your language.
You can invite him in.
You can have a personal relationship with him.
So we don't want an institutionalized Christ.
The way that the devil mimics eternity is through permanence, by creating solid institutions.
And that reminds me of Mike Benz's analysis of democracy, that democracy is meant to mean the fluid relationship between a population and those elected to serve.
Through leadership, but now democracy means a set of controlled institutions.
So when we take democracy to Iraq or Iran or Ukraine or wherever, what we mean is we're dropping a bunch of bureaucratic entities that will themselves implement this centralized control of the powerful.
Now, Alex, you've always been ahead of it when it comes to calling out in the culture the presence of occultism and demonism.
And it feels like me and you are like in an old school phone call where you're answering one question back.
So when you do my last question, which I reckon is the one you'll answer now, which is hopefully how we infiltrate.
The institutions of democracy using the technology that they want to use to control us to ensure that people are heard, which would mean in a true democracy, people could run their communities with full control over their budgets, with full control over policy.
People say, exactly, exactly.
If we use AI and control it ourselves and not program to lie, then it is a super empowering thing that we created.
And that is, we have to realize we're the folks that were right, we're the people that challenge the system.
And I wouldn't say we have an arrogance, but we should have a confidence in what we're doing and that we're going to go out there and be the salt of the earth and with God's spirit help lead people out of this.
And I totally agree.
Everybody should politically get involved, run for office, speak out, start a podcast if it has 100 viewers.
You do that, God will get involved and amazing things will happen.
And so, absolutely, this is time for total decentralization.
The system wants centralization, we want decentralization.
Just like with AI, the answer to AI is not to have it centralized.
We want a whole bunch of AI.
And so the real AI wars are about to begin.
And people just have to realize the epicness of this, not see challenging evil or corruption as some big job, but as an opportunity, like lifting weights or jogging to get in better shape.
Walking in Faith and Speaking Out00:03:34
And once you see it as it's an opportunity and a blessing to be alive now at the crossroads of human destiny, then you can step into that wider world.
But I go back to the devil's biggest trick it's not that he doesn't exist, that's the second trick.
It's that good doesn't exist.
There are so many good people, black, white, Hispanic, old, young, Arab, blah, blah, blah.
And you have to understand that you're not perfect, but your main mission is good.
You're not out to get people.
You don't want to see other people fail, so you succeed.
You understand a rising tide raises all ships.
It's a non zero sum game, a total win win.
And you just have to step into that and just let your light shine, and the people will come.
I mean, I'm somebody 32 years ago, I was 20 years old, and I wanted to get on talk radio and went to college and try to do RTF, and it was a joke.
They were teaching 30 year old information.
And I sent out tapes to local radio stations.
They'd play them on air.
Look, this guy wants a job.
Listen to him, make fun of me.
But I went to an Access TV show and immediately, within a year, showed up in the ratings in Austin as number one in that little time slot twice a week.
So then I got a little radio show.
Within a year, number one.
Another year later, syndicated.
And it wasn't that I was so great, it was that it was unwashed, it was unfiltered, and it was covering real issues, and the people wanted it.
And so I'm saying I'm nothing special.
Good people tend to try to overthink things and think, well, I have a perfect plan or I'm not good enough to do this.
You're good in that you love God and you love justice.
You don't have all the answers.
You've got to walk in faith and speak out.
You've got to be seen.
You've got to be the salt of the earth, the light in the world.
And a little light in the darkness dispels the darkness.
And you've just got to start that journey and you've got to get involved.
And if you pray to God to send the Holy Spirit to you to lead God and direct you, it will happen.
And it is amazing once you do that.
So I would just say take God's hand, ask God to direct you.
And it might just be taking care of a sick neighbor.
You know, it might be, who knows, whatever God leads you to do.
Because it's like, oh, a little thing, take care of a sick neighbor.
Or I'm going and I'm helping in a soup kitchen, or I'm doing this.
It doesn't matter.
Or I'm going to run for office, or I'm going to sue this person.
It's whatever the Holy Spirit tells you to do.
Just start everywhere.
What do I do?
How do I fight?
What is God's mission?
You keep asking the Holy Spirit that.
The Holy Spirit will more and more come in until now.
I get woken up.
I even turn the clocks off and turn my phone off because it's ridiculous.
I can go to bed at midnight, go to bed at 8 p.m. 3 a.m.
I wake up and I just go sit at the coffee table.
And for like an hour, we call it meditation.
I just sit there with the lights dim and just sit there and go, What's the orders?
And I do it seven days a week now for at least three years.
I was up at 3 a.m. today for like an hour just sitting there and just saying, I wouldn't even call it meditation.
It's just clearing my brain and saying, What is your orders?
I don't think you should be allowed to smoke when you're doing that.
Are you smoking?
Yeah, I am smoking.
I never really smoked off and on.
And then my wife went to rehab four years ago.
She came back with it.
She quit.
And it's crazy to start smoking when you're like 49.
Now I'm 52.
Yeah, I need to stop.
Yeah, you'll be so good.
But not when you get the orders as well.
I think the orders are coming in.
You can't sit there with your American spirit chugging away on that.
You've got to be focused on the orders.
Now, I'm getting the orders coming through as well.
Now, this is weird because in my country, we've got a class system.
So we're taught, if you're from a certain background, you don't belong in politics.
Then you're kind of taught there is no God.
Orient Yourself to God00:04:15
And as you have already said in this brilliant conversation, orient yourself to God.
Then that self obsessiveness that's really governed my life for a long time and really.
I coasted on through Hollywood and a bunch of stuff, but somehow I knew that life was spiritual.
You feel it all the time.
And I knew that it wouldn't work the life of indulgence and becoming a priest of the Pharisee class of Hollywood.
I knew, Alex, that there was something that I was trying to get to.
And I didn't think it would come to me in such pain and anguish and so much suffering and brokenness and accusation and fear and dread.
But it's come now.
And I feel relief and I feel his presence.
And I know what you're telling our audience to do is true.
Jesus, I'm talking to you, Lord.
How do you want to serve me?
What do you want me to do, Lord?
Tell me, what do I do?
I want to follow you.
Show me I'm weak on my own.
I'm broken.
Please, Jesus, help me.
I don't know what to do.
Like that, you will be involved in an interface.
Now, since I've been living like that, broken, back and forth, falling over, stumbling, but getting back up again, what I've been shown is this.
The world we operate in has already, as we saw with Napster, annihilated the record industry.
As we saw with the Arab Spring, being used as a tool for politics.
As we saw with the Occupy.
Occupy movement used as a unifying force across the political spectrum and, as we're seeing, with cryptocurrencies, in particular Bitcoin, but a whole host of.
I'm not really a Bitcoin crypto guy.
I know I need to be like, but it's what it's doing is.
It's changing the world radically and if those technologies, the technologies that have broken the monopoly of information, if that technology is used in the field of politics, it's going to change the world radically.
Now, this is what I've decided to do.
In 2028, there's a mayoral contest in London, the mayor of London.
That competition is in 2028.
This is my plan, Alex Jones, and I want your feedback on it.
Run for mayor, whether I'm in jail or not.
And the policy is this total democracy.
The reason it can work in London, Alex, is because it's limited.
The London mayoral office controls the metropolitan police force, it controls transport, and it controls property development.
It has some other symbolic roles as well.
But I'm saying this you don't need a mayor of London.
What you'll have is absolute democracy.
Using the technology we're all familiar with, whether it's voting on dumb reality shows or whether it's Polymarkets, one of our sponsors, incidentally, will use that technology to ensure absolute and maximum democracy.
Whether it's small things like improvements to road systems or larger things, I think it's an absolute genius plan for you to run against Sadiq Khan, who just won his third big win there, just to inject the real issues.
That is absolutely what people should do.
People shouldn't think, Am I going to win?
You're going to inject real issues.
The only way you fail is not doing it.
I think Russell Brand running against Sadiq Khan coming up in a year and a half, two years is pure genius.
I think you absolutely must do it.
Thank you very much.
Because this is my point.
Since coming to the Lord, I don't care.
When I was talking about this stuff in 2015, like me running for mayor then, which is when I first started talking about it, it was about, yeah, maybe that'll be great.
I'll be powerful.
I'll be a mayor.
How fantastic.
Now, I don't care no more.
I'm already dead, man.
I don't like suffering.
I love my children, all of that stuff.
But like you, I can see it in you.
I know it when I see it in other people.
You kind of know that there is suffering.
You kind of know that there is despair.
But you also know His glory is real.
And when you submit yourself to Him, Things become possible that were impossible before.
I don't want to be in the middle of a debate about the situation.
That's what I was going to say earlier when you were talking about this.
I want the opportunity to democratize London.
I want the opportunity to say, listen, if you want ULIS cameras, one of the issues is they hate these cameras, a lot of people do anyway, that charge them congestion taxes.
If you want to get rid of that, get rid of it.
I also want, if you have issues with migration, and this isn't one of the things that the mayoral office controls, actually, but if people don't want hostels for migrants, they should be able to vote and not have hostels for migrants.
The truth is, Democracy could work a lot better.
It wouldn't be perfect, but it would be a lot better.
And that's what I'm trying to get at that I said earlier.
Building a Mutual Aid System00:08:54
But just to quantify it, literally, if you ask God to lead God and direct you, not the first time, in my experience, a lot of prayer, a lot of focus.
I spent an hour a day just sitting in a chair asking God, what do I do?
There's an American spirit hanging in my mouth doing a coffee, but occasionally a sandwich or something.
But the point is, is that.
Tell what to do, Lord.
What do I do?
Return to the frost today.
She sleeps in a literal tent.
That evil bitch, she stinks the sofa.
What do I do, Lord?
Lord, I can't hear anything.
Should I have another sandwich, Lord?
Shall it?
Oh, this one's gone out.
Lord!
Sorry, Alex.
Sometimes I do things like that.
No, that's the thing is, you know when it's God, because time and time again, it's like nothing but success.
And so what I'm saying is, is that people are like, oh, I'm insecure or I shouldn't do this.
No.
You say, I want to be an agent of God.
God, what do I do?
And you'll know when it's the Holy Spirit, and God will give you little jobs up front, you know, little things.
And it's amazing.
I mean, when I've totally turned myself over to this, and I get better and better at it, like when I first really started doing it consciously was Jack Dorsey and the Twitter hearings like eight, nine years ago.
And they tried to take him out the back of the building, the front of the building.
And I was like, God goes, let me take control of you.
Go down this thing.
Now go down this hallway.
Now go outside.
Now come back in.
You're going to confront him right now.
And they had all these exes and stuff, and there he was, and I got him.
And the point was that I had to literally turn my agency over.
I wasn't possessed by like a demon.
It was like God was beaming the answers to me.
And, I've had a lot of examples of that I've shown the listeners.
It's just, but it's not, it's not just, it's not like I have some superpower.
We all have this power.
God is 100% real, and all of the drugs and chemicals and poisoned foods is about dampening that connection we have electrochemically through our DNA.
There's a transceiver.
We're a literal, uh, liquid, uh, water crystal.
That got declassified a month ago in Operation Artichoke.
The CIA said, We're all psychic.
We're a liquid crystal and we've got to poison the food, water, and shots so that there isn't a giant awakening.
But it's going to fail.
And so that's really the amazing thing that's happening right now.
I see.
The awakening is already among us.
The kingdom of heaven is among us.
The kingdom of heaven is breaking free and reigning already, but it is being prevented as usual by the counterfeit schemes that have fallen on us, by the institutions and bureaucracies that are in the world.
Total delivery and ascension is being blocked by people in denial.
Exactly.
It's already here, right here.
And the enemy's already losing.
You can see they're already losing.
But the point is, we haven't gotten the general public to realize it.
But once there's mass adoption, it is going to be incredible.
Yeah, I wonder, Alex Jones, would you ever consider beginning a community that would be run democratically?
Here are some of the principles I reckon are important food independence, a community, whether it's 100 people or 500 people, where you have food autonomy, you grow your own food, where you have energy autonomy, you're energy resilient.
Would it be possible?
Alex, and is this a sort of sensible idea or have I gone crazy from watching too much InfoWars?
Would it be possible to form our own communities that are energy independent and food independent, and those communities are run fully democratically by the people that live there?
If they want to run them as Muslim, they can.
Well, the Amish have already done it.
The Amish.
Blockchain.
The Amish have already done it.
They're all over the world.
Blockchain Amish.
Yeah, the Amish have already done it.
Exactly.
If you had like some way to hook the Amish system in and that they could control it and have like a high tech element of it, The Amish live on average eight years longer than everybody else.
They don't have autism.
They are way healthier than us.
And what they're doing is literally following Leviticus.
So, absolutely, I mean, we know the blueprint.
Yeah.
We've got to be blockchain Amish.
We grow our own food.
We control our own energy.
Now, once you've done that, like, now look, you know a lot more about this than almost anybody.
It seems to me that anytime there's a real ideological threat to the system, and I don't even want to call it the American government because the American government just seems like one outlet of a much Broader, wider, more nefarious, deeper occultist system.
But say when there is something like, I don't know, Jonestown or Waco, I'm not suggesting that Waco or Jonestown were anything other than crazy, crazy scenarios.
However, I do also suspect that if a community was being run well and the leaders were not sleeping with the members or exploiting them financially, that the FBI and the CIA wouldn't be pleased to see alternative social models emerging and the members of those social models saying, we wanna.
Decouple from the dominator system.
Imagine if you had these communities of 100 to 500 people, and then you went, as a matter of fact, we're not paying tax anymore, and we're not repaying our debt.
We're living in accordance with scripture.
For example, you wouldn't have to do in accordance with scripture, that would be democratically decided by the community.
What do you think would happen?
Do you think the state would step in?
Do you think the feds would step in?
What do you think would happen, Alex, if you tried to create Alex Jones land or Alex Jones world?
Although I know you're too humble to call it that.
Probably you'd call it, I don't know, info land.
I'm not.
I don't want to bicker about the name.
Sure, let me try to explain.
Listen, by our own financial decisions and with AI, with good people running it, you can work with people all over the world and create communities that are within that system that help the people.
But absolutely, everybody needs to decentralize.
All the elites are running off to build stuff in the middle of nowhere.
They already know what it's about.
So it's about decoupling as much as you can from the system.
Nobody's going to do it perfectly.
A community itself would, as a node or a case point example, would be a great way to do it.
But in general, it's about Emancipating your mind to the control.
Yes.
And then with the purchases you make, supporting institutions and groups that are in alignment with that pro human future.
But this is the future with what's coming into society.
But Alex, we've just had a conversation.
We've started with, you know, you lean in your way into Trump 2015 and what happens.
So you do, I think, as a.
Yes, you're right.
First, you have to break open your head and align with the Holy One.
Then you are out of the system as an individual.
But as you've said many times in many ways and in this conversation, the food sources are polluted, the water is polluted, the air is polluted, the information is polluted.
So unless you can create.
A city without walls, but protected by God's fire, Zechariah style, unless you can create that and then in Confederacy form relationships with these other communities across the world and say that we are declaring independence once more.
We will pay a tax to America for, for example, I don't know, military defense or some municipality, but this is what we're doing.
Yeah, well, I think what you're saying is we need a system of decentralization and a symbol and a code we follow where it's not centralized, but it is a mutual aid system.
And then out of that, we should be debating the plan with AI, with the globalist takeover.
How does humanity counter this?
And I think that's really it at the end of the day.
So, I mean, I totally agree with what you're saying.
Well, I feel like if you were to start that, because not everyone could live in Russell Brown's world or Alex Jones' world.
And as a matter of fact, I'm sort of taking a piss.
That's not really what I mean, because I don't, as you said earlier, the age of seeking charismatic, Leaders who are going to save us is over.
There is only one king, and under him, where he has no favorites in our true identity, realize through him the name that he has given us, the identity that he has given us, the purpose he has given us.
We are equipped to fight, we are equipped to participate.
So, if some people don't want to fight, God is the operating system.
God is the operating system.
We all have to get the operating system, then it all works.
It has to be an individual thing, and then we collectively come together under God's spirit and build systems that then will transcend the counterfeit that Satan is building.
Well, you know if it's working because if you start moving in the direction of doing something that's effective in disrupting the system, they discredit you and they kill you.
In a way, you've survived some pretty significant attacks, both financial.
Indeed, sometimes I marvel at how, well, how you've not been killed yet and how you've survived.
Now, I know how you've probably answered to both his questions.
Well, that's because God's in control.
I'm only alive because God decided so.
So then, our duty continues, our purpose continues, our walk continues, yoked to Him.
His slave.
And I wonder, Alex, if the time of rhetoric and, like, you know, we have to support ourselves.
Disrupting the System Effectively00:13:15
Both of us work with Go Bigly, huh?
Them's good guys.
Nate and Colin, I love them dudes.
And the supplement game, having our own products.
That's a fantastic conversation.
No, sure.
People understand it takes money and energy to win a war.
And that's where I, if I have a few minutes, I want people to update because we had the feds come in.
We had show trials run by the CIA and FBI all declassified.
And I never did the things they said.
And HBO produced it.
And then they tried to do a fake auction for The Onion, financed by Bloomberg, and that failed.
And Then they cut the power off a year ago, and then the judge overruled it.
But finally, the state receiver said, We're not paying the internet.
We're not paying the power.
A few weeks ago, we got kicked out.
We had the Alchemist Network back up.
We're here.
And we're probably going to beat them in court, probably get Infowars back.
But regardless, they are announcing the Onion owns us.
Bloomberg is financing it all.
They are announcing all this horrible, evil stuff, making all these Satanism jokes.
They say it's just a joke.
They're letting you know they're flagged, they're flying it high.
But notice the onion a year and a half ago said they got us here in auction.
That was a lie.
This is a lie.
We're not shut down because of them.
They were going to shut us down on the 30th, then hand it to them, but we blocked it in court because it was a fraud.
But people need to know I am doing the same show with the same talk show hosts, the same people.
It's a revolutionary act to share it.
The new news site with the news feeds, the articles, everything is Alex Jones Live.com.
Alex Jones Live.com.
And on X at Real Alex Jones.
On Rumble, Rumble.com forward slash The Alex Jones Show Live.
Got 700,000 followers in just the first week since we launched it.
And so.
We're here with the same crew, the same people, and we're fighting for info wars because The Onion, financed by Bloomberg and his Every Town Gun Control Group, says we want your identity.
They said they want to try to take our back catalog and ban it off the internet, even though it's always been free to air and always said it belonged to everybody.
So it's just an ongoing court battle, but they have been obsessed with getting me off the air since Hillary lost the election.
It came out in court, the CIA and DOJ funded it all, but we are still here.
And just because hardcore listeners know we're still here, The general public is looking.
Talk about Bigly, our big sponsor at the AlexShore.com.
They get thousands of calls a day and emails.
Where's Alex?
Where's Alex?
They got to say, well, the feed's right here on the shopping cart.
But this is how the enemy operates.
This is what they do.
And when The Onion a year and a half ago, in November of 2024, announced they owned us and took us down, it was overturned.
It was a fraud.
We had the shopping cart, InfoWarsShore.com.
It shut down now.
And we saw a 75% drop in sales.
Just because they announced that fraud, people believe that.
And it didn't matter over those last year and a half.
Nobody ever came back.
That's why we brought in Bigly as the new sponsor because that's how these hoaxes work.
So the level of lies is incredible.
I got a gas station and somebody at the grocery store, too.
Go, man, I'm sure sorry you're off the air.
And I'm like, I'm on the same satellite, same radio stations, on the air every day, 11 a.m. Central, 12 p.m. noon Eastern at AlexJonesLive.com.
And they're like, but wait a minute.
I heard you're off the air because they ran headlines, the Washington Post, New York Times, Alex Jones, finally off the air.
I'm like, no, I'm not off the air.
And I sit there on my own show saying, I'm not off the air.
So we still have to get the public to understand the level of these lies.
That's why I appreciate you having me on to let folks know that the info war continues on 2.0 at alexjoneslive.com.
We'll support you in any small way that we can, Alex, because you're fantastic.
Huge way.
Huge, Russell.
Whatever we can do, man.
Whatever we can do.
Alex, we'll be back in a moment with some questions from the chat.
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Well, surely the opportunity to ask Alex Jones a direct question is too much for you in the chat to resist.
Here is that opportunity right now.
Here's our producer, Jake.
Alex, this is Jake.
Jake, Alex.
Alex, how are you?
All right.
This is a big question from Tris McLeod that I'm sure you can go in a bunch of directions.
She said, What were your parents like, Alex?
Well, my parents were still both alive and they were super awake and are super awake.
And I kind of got a jump start on everything because they were so awake.
My dad got recruited when he was 14 to plan two at UT.
He thought he was joining NASA and instead he was joining DARPA.
And then he got out of it and told me all about it as a child.
And so I have to say, I wouldn't be who I am today.
I had a huge jump start.
I'm like five years old.
My dad's talking about Zabigny Brzezinski on the Toronto Commission.
And eugenics, the New World Order.
So, my parents were my mom's got a degree in history.
She's super smart as well.
And then I had other family on my mom's side that was high level.
I ran Contra and a bunch of other stuff that spoke out.
And so, that's why I had a huge jump on things by the time I was 20 to get on air and do all this, was because I grew up around my family.
And they go, oh, God, his family was this and that.
No, they were in that and they spoke out against it.
And so, that's why I had a jump start.
That's awesome.
All right, got another one.
You want another one?
All right.
I'll stay here as long as you want.
I love taking questions.
I'm here as long as you want.
10 minutes or an hour, I'm here.
Awesome.
We love it.
All right.
The JLS 90 from the chat said the Davos crowd overplayed their hand during COVID, got pushback, and has since went mostly silent.
What's their plan now to get us to Agenda 2030?
Their plan was to get us into an Iran war.
And now they've launched a Hunta virus that is definitely another hyped up nothing burger and people aren't buying it.
So that's their plan war and financial collapse to get total control.
But I agree with the person's comment that, I mean, even last year at Davos, we're like, we've lost confidence.
Everybody hates us.
Everybody hates Bill Gates.
So we're winning the info war.
It's amazing.
I had something for you that I pulled up when you were talking about how you get woken up.
At 3 a.m., and that's a significant time.
I feel like that's when I get woken up by the Holy Spirit.
Russ, I don't know about you, but that's the fourth watch.
Every day, 3 a.m. sharp.
It's considered the fourth watch in the Bible.
This is the time, roughly three to six, when Jesus walked on water and appeared to the disciples, signifying a time of miraculous intervention.
It's also a time of divine instruction and wisdom.
God speaks in the quiet of the night, opening the ears of people to counsel.
It's a time of spiritual warfare.
Believe that spiritual opposition is active at that time, requiring believers to stay vigilant.
And then a wrestling for a blessing, similar to Jacob wrestling with an angel.
This hour is associated with deep, persistent prayer for blessing and breakthrough.
I thought that was pretty interesting.
3 a.m.
Well, I'll tell you the rest of the story as you say it.
It's been happening about three years.
I'll go to bed, whether it's 8 o'clock or 10 or 11, and like.
I turn my phone off, everything.
I wake up at 3 a.m. being literally choked and under attack.
And then I just wake up and pray to God.
And then the journey starts.
You're right.
It's not just that God is active at 3 a.m., whatever the gates are, wherever this works, wherever you're at, it's like every day, it's 3 a.m. sharp, it's on.
That's the real fight of the day.
And I just wake up into a whole new war every day at 3 a.m.
Yeah.
You're tuned in, Alex.
Dave, you have a question for beloved Alex Jones.
Here's one that I like.
Off this is yesterday, you said Trump's trip to China with Elon Musk is happening amid the Iran war fallout.
What do you expect coming out of that meeting?
I mean, China has the cards now.
Trump had them all until he did this war 75 days ago.
And the CFR came out and the Trident Commission publication, Atlantic Monthly, and said Trump is in checkmate with Iran because they were going to close the straight.
And so now Trump has gone to China with no cards.
And so I expect a bunch of statements and grandstanding, but until he ends that war, Trump is a bitch of the globalist.
Hmm.
Matt, I see.
Do you want to ask a question to Alex Jones, or are you too busy worshipping that crazy flag behind you?
You're in the UK right now.
Do you have a UK centric question for the great Alex Jones?
Alex, I'll be going to the Unite the Kingdom rally on Saturday in London.
I wonder if you know or have any opinion on what might happen on Saturday because they let the last one happen.
Will they let this one happen?
To show my ignorance, I know Tommy was here a few months ago.
He invited me to this.
This is the Tommy Robinson rally.
Yeah, the Tommy Robinson rally is the second big one.
I mean, well, like a million people showed up before.
I don't think Starmer has the power to stop it.
I mean, Starmer is super unpopular, 15 points or whatever.
He refuses to resign.
I mean, I think that it should be a success.
Will he do a false flag or something?
Who knows?
But I mean, you can't stop the power of the people.
That's what Russell was talking about it's like water flowing in a rainstorm.
It's just unstoppable.
What happens with the co opting of it, though, Alex?
Like, it always feels like there's a, for example, like national populism.
Seems like it's got a lot of nostalgia in it.
You know, it's not like forward looking and often there's a focus on a particular group and condemning that group.
Scapegoating, that's not what our Lord was here to do.
He was here to end that sacrifice by becoming the perfect sacrifice.
So, how do we ensure that new populist movements that are necessary to displace the globalist movements, indeed, isn't that what we saw with Trump, don't themselves ultimately, because they're not undergirded in the Holy One, fall into the same kind of corruption that preceded them?
Well, I agree.
I mean, we're imperfect creatures.
But if you're told you're bad because you're European or you're from the UK and you're told you have a surrender, saying I'm not surrendering to this is the beginning of not surrendering to everything else.
So, yeah, I mean, it all becomes, you know, King George flags and, you know, some hooliganism involved and all that.
But at least people are standing up and waking up.
But I think overall, the next phase is to get people to see the big picture.
You know, they use Brexit that was controlled by people that really didn't go anywhere.
So you're right.
They can use nationalism as kind of a sidetrack.
But at the end of the day, it's just healthy to see a million people out in the streets standing up for their sovereignty.
Yeah, it is.
It's encouraging and exciting.
See, like how you were at Bohemian Grove with John Ronson.
Gosh, that must have been 30 years ago when those kind of stories were exciting young conspiracy theorists like myself.
And since then, it seems that whatever these powerful groups are, whether they're coming out of academies and universities, skull and bones type stuff, whether they are Mossad oriented, Epstein style sex compromise cults, how is it?
That this group are able to continue to preempt what people try and do to become free.
How is it that they can play both sides of the table?
Because they have control, they have control of the central banks and they control the money.
And so that's why no matter what we do, it seems like they're unstoppable.
But the unstoppable force comes into contact with the immovable object.
And so that's the big explosion that's now about to happen.
Do you think then, like, given what's been happening in the Middle East, and that it sort of, I suppose, the broad analysis that's gotten Tucker in the crosshairs, maybe literally, and I pray for his safety, is speaking in a more candid and open way about American foreign policy interests being steered by Israel foreign policy interests?
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If that is centrifugal, and if it does relate to finance, and if it does, relate to the financing of the wars of the last century how do we ensure that Jewish people don't feel that this is a repackaging of anti-Semitic ideas what do we do to make sure in fact you know that any group like whether it's Muslims or Jewish folks don't feel like there's a kind of a racist dynamic at play