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Sept. 29, 2025 - Stay Free - Russel Brand
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Michigan Church Shooting Sparks Trump Warning Of ‘TARGETED ATTACK On Christians’ - SF641
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Hello, there you are waking one to thank you for joining me today.
join us over on Rumble if you can, where we can guarantee that I'll speak freely and anything crazy that I say it's my fault, not of the the result of crazy manipulation or AI or attempts by global media to absolutely control information.
So much to talk about.
There's been a tragic shoot-in.
And I don't know.
We'll talk about it, but if you then what where are we going to go with that subject?
Let me know in the comments and chat if you've got a vitriolic and certain opinion on how to handle these difficult matters.
We'll be talking too about the escalation of tension between the left and right, even in this opportunity for healing that followed the uh media wake of the murder of Charlie Kirk, where I felt for a moment, and you lot in the chat couldn't have been more aggressively opposed to me, that this could be an opportunity for reconciliation.
I even went so far as to suggest that Jimmy Kimmel's reconciliatory speech afterwards was sincere.
But you lot in the rumble chat, you were like, no, you've really strongly strongly opposed me on that one.
And maybe you guys were right, but we were talking about the left and the right and Gavin Newsom's appearance on a talk show, stuff like that.
The elevation of hate, how it's become an international issue, really now with the mayor of London, Sadiq Khan calling Donald Trump a racist and a sexist.
Gary Newsom calling him a son of a bitch, and this is in this kind of post Charlie Kirk murder moment where perhaps what we're looking to and looking for is a system of thought and behaviour and policy that might actually resolve these issues instead of the senseless, endless doubling down.
Paul Schrober says here, reconciliatory, he didn't even say sorry.
But what about the crying though?
What about the crying Paul Schauba?
Uh Patricia Beard Lambert simply says, dress appropriately.
What do you mean by that though?
Do you would do you think I should wear like a suit?
Like what is it?
Is it is that what you want?
Because that's what happened.
Take a good look at these!
Because it's the last you see of them.
I promise you that, my friend.
Let me know what you mean by appropriately.
Uh you I look handsome, do you think, laser shot?
I appreciate that.
The subjects we're gonna start with, if you ask me, and I couldn't be more certain about this and more resolute, because this is the subject I've wanted to start with.
Wait for it.
Well, there's this.
In my country, Jake, producer of the show, beloved friend, fellow Christian on the path, in the UK, the NHS, that's our National Health Service, say that first cousin marriage has benefits.
This might be, I reckon, because a lot of Pakistani immigrants marry their first cousins.
But I don't know if that's a racist trope or a true fact.
I can't tell you anymore.
First cousin marriage has benefits, says NHS guidance, despite birth defect risks.
Tory MP says health service should stop taking the knee to damaging cultural practices.
Thank you, Mug Club, for the stream.
If you're here, we're talking right now about the health service in the UK and a recent announcement that first cousin Bennett marriage has benefits.
Let me know in the comments and chat if you've ever had any relationships with your first cousin.
You could be a Muslim migrant, or you could simply be appellation.
Well, I don't mind, it's not my business.
I don't know what it says in the Bible about first cousin marriage.
You tell me, do tell me what's in there, and we'll work out together.
One thing I'll tell you that was very interesting to me is when I was travelling.
Um what I was what I was I'm not naked, I've got stuff on.
I can put that back on.
It's nicest.
Um my in-laws brought me that for Christmas.
Uh what I'll tell you, is when I was in um New I was in Newark Airport yesterday, travelling back for some matters in New York City, which I really I still had a beautiful time in St. Patrick's Cathedral, walking the streets of New York City.
Many, many beautiful people, very much peace.
The aftermath of that UN.
I looked at that building, Donald Trump was right.
He could have done a better job of that, I'm sure.
It's interesting to be in New York City.
When I was in the airport, Newark Airport, travelling back to the panhandle, this beloved and blessed place.
I noticed there's a meditation room in the airport.
I thought that's interesting.
We all know they're there.
We've seen them, haven't we?
All of us, we've all but I thought I'd go in it.
And I actually had a little prey up in there, because you know it's like I'm in an airport, I'm travelling with my children.
We tried to do we're doing hand luggage only, free kids, a lot of we've we're pushing that hand luggage only to the very limit.
We've got maybe seven or eight bags, we're sort of strapped up.
We look very much it gave me a new sympathy for the migrants of the world, because we was uh we were we had our world on our back, should we say?
And so I went in and I was getting frustrated and stuff, and we went, I went into that prayer room, and I thought, even though it's called a meditation room, functionally, I would have to tell you, it looks like it's set out for Islamic prayer because there's a r a male room for washing, a female room for washing that are very elaborate and have like um sort of troughs in them and sort of uh hoses to wash your feet and various ablution systems.
Um there is no marker or moniker of any faith at all, and the word that was used is meditation, but it's plainly a prayer space.
And actually, this could be an incredible advance.
If there were a place where all of the faiths of the world could come together in worship, wouldn't that be glorious?
I'm a Christian myself, so my path is clear.
But I would see in a secular and diverse and varied society, the possibility for people to worship together and to recognise that even if you disagree about the nature of God, our agreement that there is a God is an opportunity for the kind of reconciliation that I think our culture requires right now.
But what I'm interested in is that that room was clearly actually a Muslim room.
Uh, because functionally it's got that male bathroom, it's not got a bathroom in, there's no toilet, you know, there's just a place to wash for men, a place to wash for women, and then some neutral spaces.
The only rules are you can't use your phone and you've got to be respectful in there and things like that.
There was no one in there.
I don't know who's using it.
But what really struck me as interesting is you know when I'm talking to people that are avowedly right wing, say, uh or at least described as right wing, Tommy Robinson say, and I often find myself saying the problem with condemning Muslim migrants in the UK or migrants anywhere, is that migrants by definition don't have power.
They are among they're upon the lowest tier.
I'm not saying whether or not you should have migration.
If a population doesn't want migration, that's the end of it.
People in Japan don't really like it.
People in this country at the moment, they feel like they don't want no more migration.
People in the UK at the moment don't want more migration.
That's up to them in a democracy.
You would agree with that, everyone would agree with that.
That's what the word democracy means.
So, but what's interesting to me is I don't feel like um Muslims have much power in the UK or the US.
Do you?
Let me know in the comments and chat.
And yet in the airport, they have a bespoke prayer space.
Not it's not explicitly Muslim, but functionally I would say it is because of the ablution rooms.
Can you honestly tell me?
It's a sincere question.
I'm not messing around.
Why do you think that's there?
Because if it was a space that was geared towards Jewish worship, say, and I don't know enough about synagogues and stuff.
Our tech director here, Isaac's Jewish, like so or if it was geared towards Christianity, I'd be I'd be like, oh well that makes sense because there's definitely a kind of an assertive Christian power in the US, there's assertive Jewish power.
Certainly many people strongly believe that in the US.
But it's a m primarily a Muslim space.
Let me know what you think, because I don't understand it.
Um also let me know what you think about cousins getting married.
Or does it say yeah, married, it says it doesn't just say sex.
If you're gonna, you know, if you're gonna have sex with your cousin, I'd say marry them out of respect.
Yeah.
I mean, at least get married first.
Get married first, don't ruin Christmas.
Those are the only bits of advice I would offer you.
The the Europeans triumphed in the Ryder Cup.
My father-in-law, Bernard Gallagher, was there uh eight times participant in the Ryder Cup, three times captain in the Ryder Cup.
Congratulations to Europe for your victory.
I understand that uh Rory Mickelroy, playing for Europe, got a drink tossed at him, and that Trump attended.
Let's have a look at the Europe team trolling Trump.
That's what this asset is described as.
Oh, are you watching Donald Trump?
Oh, you watching Donald Trump!
Congratulations on winning.
I pretty pretty was watching.
Uh He loves golf, don't he?
He lives for that stuff.
The UK's good at chance.
Yeah, we are good at chance.
Yeah, I feel like that needs to be more of an emphasis moving forward.
Do you know that we're good at chance?
Have your sports teams even got chance?
Have they LSU and the baseball that you love?
Yeah, we got some stuff.
We got some stuff.
Some of it's inappropriate.
But we say some good things at LSU.
What?
Can't say it.
Someone told me that an eagle flies over all burner summit.
Oh yeah.
They train it.
That's good.
An eagle.
That's pretty cool.
I'd love that.
But what about what's that?
I'm for a blowing bubbles, pretty bubbles in the air.
We've got brilliant song.
And Liverpool's song, you'll never walk alone.
You'll never walk alone.
I mean, both of them are not original IP.
I'm forever blowing bubbles was in a movie, I think, in their like twenties or thirties.
And uh Never Walk Alone's a song by a uh Liverpool based group called Jerry and the Pacemakers.
Let's go Biden, Rory the accuser says.
Um yeah, well, what do you say, LSU?
Why can't you?
You can't say it's too private.
I got a few things that come up that you know say party words that get banned from the football games.
Oh.
Well, it's fun so good.
It's the best crowd.
We you gotta go to a game.
I will go.
I want to go.
I want to celebrate American sport.
I want to get to know your beautiful country.
I want to move right amongst you.
I want to get right amidst it.
I want to bring the holy word of our Heavenly Father nice.
Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ.
I want to be right amongst you.
Uh he responded, did your President Trump?
Let's see what he said.
Yeah, I'm watching.
Congratulations.
Yeah, that's good.
See?
Like hide.
Not everything's gotta be hatred the whole time.
God knows we'll be getting into that a little later.
Some people say, Russell, you're naive.
Muslims do have power.
Let me get back to that.
You call it baseless, you've not read the Quran.
That's not talking to me.
That's their argument with each other in there.
Muslims are sick, they're from Satan, they beat that eagle into submission.
Stop saying everyone's insane in this rumble chat.
If you're watching this anywhere other than Rumble, get into the Rumble chat.
You'll like it.
It's intense in there, it's intense.
Or you could go in the locals chat, that's a bit more gentle.
In the local chat, you get purple flower, Aaron Bunny.
I would say it's this.
Locals, maha.
Rumble chat, beyond MAGA.
Like they would look at MAGA as like, you filthy liberals.
Where else can you see on a chat?
It's the Jews' fault.
Yeah.
Show us your nipples.
Yep.
Um, Brian Kelly sucks.
That's the L shoe coach.
Yep.
Go gators.
Go gators, all in one chat.
Yep, that's all good.
Men have the rights to instantly divorce their wives.
All good.
These are all actual quotes.
I saw a guy that said, My first cousin was very attractive.
That's as far as it went.
I'm acknowledging it.
What?
It's just like appreciating the painting.
It's just like appreciating a beautiful patent.
It's just like rubbing your dickey bird out in a beautiful patent.
It's just like ruining a beautiful Peyton with ejaculate.
Russell, are you actually having a fuck off with me right now?
says TAC Driver 65.
The Muslims don't have power as immigrants.
Are you shitting on our actual minds here?
You're wonderfully insightful, but sometimes you then he just stops typing.
That's the end of it.
Yeah, like but look, I'm not saying you don't have influence or impact if you're a migrant, like you know, in Paris when there's them riots from migrant communities or whatever.
But what I'm saying is is like the world is not being run by a powerful cartel of migrants, is it?
It's not like some like you're not gonna go in some shady room and they're like in robes, like inside the rope, they're selling like them watches.
Like in an old day and that.
Here's your menu, hi at a minute.
Like, you know, sort of like worshiping Baal or some owl god, migrants.
Migrants aren't powerful, they're living in desperation and destitution.
I'm not saying you don't as a I've caveated this era heavily.
If you are a person that believes in democracy and the nation in general is anti-migration, then you should have a referendum on it, and the results of that referendum should carry and not be subsequently manipulated, like European elections, for example, Romania, or attempted to reverse, like Brexit, or the legitimacy of them denied, like with the Trump elections.
You just have to yield to actual democracy at some point.
Then it doesn't really matter what people believe.
You know, if you think the majority should rule, which is I guess the uh the principle of democracy, then you don't need to worry about all of this stuff.
Well, in a minute, we're gonna be getting right into the escalating hatred that is defining our times.
Let's have a look at uh Colbert and his audience losing it over Trump's Biden auto-pen move.
Oh, yeah, that auto pen where Biden was signing stuff automatically.
I'd like to see this.
Trump always has an ulterior motive and it's always being a jerk.
Because take a look at the video the White House released.
There's Obama and there's Trump.
And oh Hardy Harr.
It's Biden as an autopen.
And and I know.
Isn't that so childish?
That's actually good.
That's a better joke than he's doing.
That's a bit.
I remember myself recognizing that there was some transitional moment where the left stopped being the funny side.
The left up Bill Hicks, right?
Listen to like Bill Hicks, one of your best ever comedians, by my reckoning, used to sort of say, um, oh no, like, you know, sort of if you like he he started with the joke about uh marijuana being made illegal is like saying God made a mistake.
You know, go you say that God is holy, but then you sort of make one of his creations illegal.
That's sort of like the basic premise of the joke.
Oh my me, I left pot everywhere.
And then he said, Oh no, now I'll have to create Republicans.
And so like a really cool comedian defaulted to the left.
Then say George Carlin, while George Carlin would condemn the uni party, isn't if he had to vote, and I reckon he voted, I don't know.
Let me know in the comments and chat.
You he voted Democrat, right?
And then Chappelle, best living comedian, I would say, would would you agree?
You pretty plainly he would vote Democrat, although he does take both political parties to task and has been very outspoken on the trans issue, and in a way he sort of followed a line, didn't he?
Like that's and he's been proven to have been correct with his um fortitude like of being willing to talk about and joke about subjects and not being cowed.
But now, see that on Colbert.
They've shown someone else's joke, and the the joke's actually pretty good.
So I I don't know where he went after that, but I don't reckon it was an upgrade on that.
Because you can't be funny if you're all pious.
That's the problem.
There's too much piety, there's too much earnestness, too much sincerity.
Comedy requires a kind of punkish disregard for morality, I would argue.
Let me know what you think about that though, in the comments and the chat.
Hey, listen, did you see um Trump's had another one of those moments in a meeting where he's been um outrageously honest?
I think this time with the leader of Turkey, Erdogan, when he says, um I think he's just saying about rigged elections, and it's one of those moments where you go, Oh my god, I can't believe he's saying stuff like that.
Let's have a look.
Unfairly, as it turns out.
Rigged elections, you know, you he knows about rigged elections better than anybody.
Uh but uh when I was in exile, we were still friends.
So he's just saying that Erdogan rigs elections, he just does that as a joke.
Did you see that film?
Let me know if you've watched that movie, The Apprentice about Trump.
It charts the era where Trump moves from an underling uh his father's real estate company to the hotelier and real estate art of the deal uh cultural icon that he became prior to getting involved in politics.
It's obviously a film made by people that do not like Donald Trump and at some point alarmingly appears to suggest that he raped his wife.
You know, like sort of I can't see how they got through the sort of libelous tangle of something like that.
Nevertheless, it's a really interesting picture into New York at that time, contains excellent performances from whoever it is that's playing Trump and Jeremy Strong as his mentor, uh Ray Cohen, who the film at least credits with being the person that makes Trump Trump.
And it's built somewhat around this idea that tr uh that Trump has these three rules.
One, attack, attack, attack, two, never apologise, three, always claim victory, and that he like Ray Cohen as his mentor gives him these ideas.
Anyway, I really enjoyed watching it because you know, it's the only kind of movie I would watch on a plane.
I enjoyed watching it because living in the space that I live in, I primarily consume somewhat pro-Trump content, although I'm very aware of the legacy media condemnatory content that's also available.
It was interesting to see him depict depicted really as a product of his time, and that view at least I share.
And as a Christian, I don't have the kind of devotional fealty to Trump that a lot of people have because I see him as a extremely powerful leader, that's undeniable, he's the president of the United States, and an excellent communicator and operator, oper uh but operate in within the limits of politics and economics.
And whilst those the latitude of those limits is pretty vast, you know, this is a person who can declare wars and end wars and move billions, trillions of dollars around.
Still limited, really, when it comes to the supreme power of God and Jesus Christ.
And even if you were like a conspiracy theorist, you'd say, I'm rec I reckon, well, even Donald Trump is still controlled by the same sets of interests that controlled Joe Biden.
There's been enough change, I would say, to suggest that's not entirely true.
But also there have been areas where there's not been change one might have anticipated that leads me to suggest that there are permanent powers, transcendent of political power.
That's a belief I've had for a pretty long time, and I don't see that going anywhere.
Let me know what you think in the comments and chat about that.
If you're watching us on YouTube, we'll be with you for five more minutes, but we're ultimately gonna ask you to get off YouTube because it's a sort of a pretty restrictive space.
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I'm afraid there's been a terrible, terrible shooting.
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Let's touch on this terrible shooting that's taken place in Michigan.
Here's some legacy media reporting.
In topping national news, the FBI is investigating a targeted act of violence at a church in Michigan.
There, a man opened fire before setting the building on fire as well.
In all, five people were killed, including the gunman, while eight others were injured.
Rupe Raj, the evening anchor at our Fox affiliate in Detroit has been reporting from the scene all day and is joining us live tonight.
And Ruke, this has been a tragic day for your stuff like reporting from the scene all day.
Why do they bother to say things like that, do you think?
Right.
We're really putting out a lot of effort into it.
Like it's sort of it's so secondary to the events themselves.
So just let me know why they say that.
Well you think they say that.
It's not for no reason, it's for a reason.
This has been a tragic day for your state.
Uh it certainly has.
We're coming to you from about an hour uh away from Detroit and about 20 minutes uh away from Flint, so we're just kind of in between the two cities, if you will, and in the small town of Grand Blake, Michigan, about 400 yards away, there's a church that of course you've been showing pictures of all day long, and the whole country, the whole world has been watching.
Uh, inside of this church of Latter-day Saints, there were parishioners who were there starting the morning off, presumably about twelve hours ago, expecting a nice day of calm prayer when suddenly they heard a big bang, and it was that bang that was actually the pickup truck that slammed into the front of this church.
And when that happened, apparently people thought, okay, maybe someone had a medical emergency.
Some people started running outside the church to see what had happened, and when they ran out, this man, Thomas Sanford, investigators say, came out and just started spraying bullets in the parking lot.
He was killed there in the parking lot, but not before shooting ten people uh inside the church or right outside the church in the parking lot as well, and also setting fire to the entire church.
And when he did that, there were so many people who, of course, were trying to get out.
They were actually covering children and older people with their bodies, trying to take care of those who are More vulnerable around them, and as they did that, uh the fire then started, and it's unclear if there were explosives that were inside as well that may have caused the entire thing to then go up.
Now I can tell you right now that some of the people we spoke with, they say that the ones inside that building are simply put heroes.
My God.
Okay, well, here's um Trump on it.
I've been briefed on the horrendous shooting that took place at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Grand Blanc, Michigan.
The F by FBI was immediately on the scene, and we'll be leading the federal investigation and providing full support to state and local officials.
The suspect is dead, but there's still a lot to learn.
This appears to be yet another targeted attack on Christians in the United States of America.
The Trump administration will keep the public posted, as we always do.
In the meantime, pray for the victims and their families.
This epidemic of violence in our country must end immediately.
Now I wonder if we will see any cessation in the violence or even the invective and rhetoric that likely fuels it.
It doesn't seem that there's any abating in the ongoing incendiary conversation between the left and right.
Let's see what's going on in the Rumble chat right now, you know.
There'll be some anger and some rage.
I suppose you know, like in Philippians, Paul says, I don't even know whether to be alive or not, really.
I love God so much, I love Jesus so much.
I just want to be with Jesus, but I suppose I could stay here just to continue to counsel my disciples or you know, Christ's disciples, but those whose tutelage I am responsible for.
A lot of Christian mystics and teachers that I read appear to operate from the precipice of a willingness to die, a willingness to die.
Do you know many drug addicts?
You see how they kind of live on the edge of death, like they live on the edge of their own destruction or near constant incremental suicide.
I wonder that what that man was thinking and feeling when he drove a truck into a church and you know, presumably was pretty well prepared with whatever devices were required to get the church ablaze.
And what was his mind like?
What was his spirit like?
Do you believe in evil?
Do you believe in demons?
Do you believe in dark powers?
I wonder, I wonder, I wonder.
I feel that it's pretty clear now that we can't just keep passing between two tribal identities, neither of which are consolidated around any real cohesive ideas, nationalism, progressivism, none of them can really withstand serious scrutiny.
And by serious scrutiny, what I actually mean is the scrutiny that I could apply, like I could break down those ideas.
So then they're not that robust.
Nationalism, progressivism, these ideas, they don't withstand serious scrutiny.
What is a nation?
It's a concept, it's a faith-based system, it's a landmass, it's an ideology.
At best, it's a constitution and a flag group of people come together with a set of ideals that has ultimately become co-opted and corrupted and is controlled now by centralized powers, likely not the powers that we even think we're interfacing with.
What's progressivism?
The idea that progress and advanced through science, notably in med and observably in technology and medicine, represent this summit of human power.
Neither of them properly posit God at the top of all power, and therefore both of them are ultimately wrong, and ultimately will therefore lead to further conflict, further suffering, further pain.
God get through it.
I'm too sensitive for this world.
Says someone in the local chat.
Yeah, you are too sensitive for this world.
You're not at home here.
You're in exile here.
You will be able to go home.
Imagine if you could get to the point where you could love your children or love the people in your life that you love the most and accept that it's temporary and that the love you feel for them is the love of God, and to have enough faith that when you die that something is waiting for you, that that love will be more fulfilled in death than in life.
It's an important faith.
And if you have that, then you'll be willing to die.
It's a weird inversion of it, a weird shadow of it when people warp that into violence and destruction.
It's an odd warping of a high principle that leads to these senseless massacres.
That's what I think.
Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.
Let's get a little deeper into the cultural war.
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We're going to talk about left versus right now because Kamala Harris has announced we must fight fire with fire.
That is not an attitude that will get you into even the lowest standard fire service imaginable.
You must fight fire with water unless it's a fat fire, then you've got to use that smoke one or you use a damp towel.
Never fight fire with fire.
That creates actually worse fires.
It's terrible advice Kamala but hardly surprising given its source.
Let's have a look at her saying that.
At a time such as this one thing for sure we must fight fire with fire.
So CBC, let's get to work.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Stevie Wonder with that incredible melody and the miraculous grace of his brilliant genius after that that's their equivalent and we'll say their I'm mean with a typical left-right divide literally the leader of the Democrats in the last election or the presidential candidate at least attempting to counter fight fight fight with fight fire with fire.
And um that's a bad idea and it's the wrong position.
It's wrong position.
Let's see Trump's response.
Kamala Harris is as dumb as a rock or caps.
She's going around using as a standard part of her speech on why she lost the election that's really funny.
Right like her sp a standard part of her speech on why she lost the election at 2024 was the closest presidential election in the 21st century.
Everyone knows this is a lie and was covered as such by Fox News.
I won the electoral college then the numbers a landslide county's nationwide landslide all seven swings a landslide and despite the fact that California's fake mail in ballots came in at ridiculous numbers it was rigged I still won the popular vote by millions.
Bush as an example won the election by 537 votes and many other elections were close.
Kamala's closest in the 21st century soundbite was like everything else in the Democrat Party a total lie.
I expect an apology thank you for your attention to this man.
He's very interesting so he won't get that apology and I don't think he does even expect it.
Now Kamala Harris really she's a already someone that belongs to a bygone era.
To understand the future of the Democrat Party you probably have to look to well I don't know Mamdani in New York the likely next mayor Gavin Newsom the most presidential surely of current Democrat Party um what do you want to say?
I wanna I want to say like that l uh Illuminati the the sort of people that see luminaries.
Luminaries that's the word I'm going to use um but Illuminati maybe that's more accurate.
Let's have a look um uh let's have a look at him saying that he fears there will not be an election in 2028.
Do you know that the playbook appears to be deny the integrity of the system itself.
Both sides use that playbook I fear that we will not have an election in 2028.
I really mean that in the core must be feeling very unhappy that he's gone to all the trouble to do that gesture really well the gesture that they teach him to do that's a neurolinguistic programming technique.
But then he's got so much phlegm in his throat everything's been undermined.
Let me be clear oh no right way way way in the core of my soul unless we wake up to the cold red what's happening in this country and we wake up soberly uh to how serious this moment is self is blink.
Let's have a look at um elsewhere he says that Donald Trump's son of bitch this is difficult time pushing back.
And Democrats feel that you know times there's sort of this weakness that dominates our brand and our party and I think what people said brand first, so that's revealing it's a brand rather than a party or a movement.
Also, do you feel the subtext?
He's saying, I'm what's required to oppose Trump, what you need.
I am the masculine, reemergent masculine.
I am the Phoenix emerging from the ashes, the Kamala ashes is is sort of an attempt to self-annoint.
Let me know in the comments and chat if you agree with that.
What people appreciate is that we're willing to fight, and not only fight symbolically by having a little bit of fun, but uh fight substantively.
We have 41 lawsuits against this son of a bitch.
Uh we're pushing back and we're willing.
You know, and and you know, and and we're filling a void on a lot of issues.
I'm out here for climate week.
California is the tenth pole in terms of climate policy in this country.
As he walks away from Paris, he walks away uh from uh excited about themselves.
Everyone's very excited about themselves.
But yourself and myself and his self, Gavin Newsom, is not that exciting.
No one's that exciting.
No one's that exciting.
Uh here's Hillary Clinton saying that we have to stop demonizing one another, which is the right sentiment.
We have to stop applying the imagery and characteristics of demons to your human opponents.
Demons are real, evil is real.
But as Salzon Knittson said, the line between good and evil runs not between nation states, races, or religions, but through every human heart.
So all of us should take ownership of our own tendency towards sin and brokenness, focus on that, as Chesterton said.
I'm the problem.
I am the problem.
And once from that point, maybe there is a chance of reconciliation.
Let me know if you agree with that.
And let me know if you can see what the actual legacy stroke expression of Charlie Kirk's death is.
Do you see that it's just an attempt to manoeuvre round?
Because when you watch that, you think, why is it Gavin Newsom not just saying, look, this is a real opp this is the time for us to end this.
And I know I'm only watching soundbite, I've not even watched the whole interview, I suppose, but you could certainly level that charge at me.
But why is he not saying, look, I'm through with this rhetoric now?
We really have to get ourselves together.
We have to move beyond this kind of hatred and this kind of condemnation.
Why can't he say it?
Because Gavin Newsom is a product of a political system that is actually controlled by let's just start with layer one, the financial interests that dominate lobbying and donations.
Let's just look at one area, American health, big agriculture, big food, big pharma.
You can't even make common sense changes in those areas because they would be adverse to the interests of big food, big pharma, big agriculture.
You can't say, hey, guess what?
Why don't we grow food locally, break down centralized farming, liberate local farmers, ensure that local populations maximally spend their money on food that is locally grown and resourced.
For example, food in hospitals and schools, to take but two examples, could all come from the state or even the county that they're in.
And that won't uniformly fulfill all obligations, but let's make that our maximal principle.
Let's not ignore it as a possibility.
So think about that one small change.
Think about the opposition you'd get from the interests that control agriculture and the interests that control big food.
Think about the type of food that is served in hospitals.
Think about the type of food that's served in schools.
What does that tell you?
It tells you that your health is irrelevant.
In fact, your sickness is required.
They need you sick.
They want you eating food that's as adjacent to poison as it's possible to be without it actually killing you the minute it touches your lips.
They want you diabetic, they want you allergic, they want you asthmatic and wheezing and weak, and mostly they're succeeding in doing that.
Gavin Newsom's not outside of that.
Gavin Newsom's not willing to sit in that chair and go, listen, I'm through with taking money and donations from big food, big pharma, big agriculture.
I'm gonna stand against them.
Who does do that?
Robert Kennedy is willing to do that.
Trump to a degree appears to be that type of a politician.
Now you can ask the question of whether or not those kind of politicians have any impact in those areas and or whether or not it's empty rhetoric and hollow and they're controlled by the you know, you can ask all the questions that I would ask.
But Gavin Newsom, you might as well just watch a TV programme.
Honestly, you might as well just watch a sporting event or masturbate as take Gavin Newsom, seriously, because he's just the latest iteration of a problem that we know cannot be solved using that technique, the technique of voting for the Democrat Party, for example.
What they should be saying is, we failed you bad, man.
We failed you bad.
We lied to you about Joe Biden.
We stuck a corpse in the White House and asked you to accept it.
Then we gave you the barely legible, barely comprehendable Kamala Harris.
Then we aggressively vilified Trump to a point where people can't think straight about him.
Now, and the reason we did all of that is because we're controlled by financial interests in the areas that we've just listed.
But from now on, we're gonna change.
We're gonna actually make this about American people.
We're not gonna just use empty gestures around wokeism.
We're gonna do something meaningful.
They can't do it, they won't do it.
It's pointless to even posit it.
It's pointless.
We have got to stop demonizing each other.
Yeah, now I think most of that right now in our country's history is coming, you know, from the right, coming from people who want to dominate.
They want their point of view, their I right, you know, writing out slavery from history, that doesn't make it go away.
You know, we've got to stop with the finger pointing and the scapegoating.
It's amazing.
We've gotta stop demonizing, especially those demons on the right.
Those demons in particular have to stop demonizing me, a potential literal demon.
David Sachs says uh poll numbers says, Oh, well, this is interesting.
You know, when we're attempting, I suppose, to participate in a conversation that brings people together harmoniously, gently and lovingly.
David Sachs says that 50% of liberals believe murdering Trump or Musk is justified.
Let's see if he does say that.
I guess Rucker used University, the Social Perception Lab.
They asked about whether the murder of Donald Trump or Elon Musk could be justified.
50% of leftist center said yes.
14% of right of center said yes.
Even that number shocking to me.
How could it be one percent of the other?
But obviously, it's it's three times greater on the left.
Then they asked about destroying Tesla dealerships and protests, whether that could be justified.
And roughly 60% of leftist center said yes, and 23% of right of center said yes.
So there is, I think, an increasing view on the part of young people, and this also coincides with similar declines in respect for the value of free speech.
They've been appalling people of all different age groups and different political parties for all many, many years on whether they believe in free speech.
And those numbers have been on the decline, again, particularly among young people, and particularly on.
Well, it's pretty interesting from David Sachs there.
And the normalization of violence is the precondition for the kind of culture that we're all aware that we're living in.
One bristling with tension and angst.
Although I will say, after my recent uh visit to New York, people are still people.
We all do have the ability to inhale and exhale away these feelings of rage and condemnation.
We can actually control our mental and physical lives through spiritual practices.
Someone told me recently that in the original Hebraic, the word Yahweh and all text indeed is free from vows and the name of our Lord Yahweh, Yahweh, Yahweh, Yahweh, could be seen as the inhalation and exhalation that all of our lives are strung upon the breath, the inhalation and exhalation in the very rhythm of our life in the very present moment, there is a way back to God.
Inhale.
Whey.
That you can become a temple for God, that God can live within you in the present moment.
And what manner of God would you like?
Do you want a gracious and loving and forgiving God, or do you want a doubling down, vengeful God, certain rigid, cancerous, tumorous and wretched, gripping on to the moment, gripping on to a point of view, gripping on to false self, or do you want to be part of the holy flow of the living water?
Do you think that there's anyone in contemporary politics that can meaningly, meaningfully Serve the idea of unity that can advocate for a vision for America that makes sense to you.
The answer is actually no.
There isn't.
But what there is is Jesus Christ dead upon the cross for you, risen again by holy grace.
And that power that made him rise up is available to you right now.
And me right now.
Esoteric and complex and but as simple as a breath is available to you and I right now.
Human heroes, there is valor and glory among human beings.
And I can actually, just on the edge of all this, see the potential for reconciliation and for meaningful change, but it won't happen while people are saying uh crazy stuff.
That's just what I think, Lloyd.
Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.
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They've only gone and done it.
The UK are introducing digital ID.
Mandatory.
You will be forced at all times to carry digital ID.
It will ultimately be connected to your medical records, your ability to purchase, and of course, your ability to vote and move freely.
Why?
What's next?
Insert in the right hand.
Keir Starmer is the revelations prime minister of the UK.
Actually bringing into policy the predictions of scripture.
Is this it?
Which horseman are you, Kier?
Let's get into Britain, ID nation, fallen Orwellian state.
Here he is saying that uh, well, let's firstly start with his confirmation of that policy.
And that is why today I am announcing this government will make a new free of charge digital ID mandatory for the right to work by the end of this parliament.
Let me spell that out.
You will not be able to work in the United Kingdom if you do not have digital ID.
It's as simple as that.
Because decent, pragmatic, fair-minded people.
They want us to tackle the issues that they see around them.
And of course, the truth is we won't solve our problems if we don't also take on the root causes.
Looking upstream.
This is amazing.
What's extraordinary is this is an idea that's been booted around and mooted for a long time.
Tony Blair really wanted us to have digital ID.
Tony Blair is one of the great globalist politicians.
Tony Blair, in a sense, bought around a sense of optimism for a moment.
He seemed like a in a way he was our Clinton, in a way, he was our Obama.
In a way, he seemed like he could rejuvenate the UK riding high on a tidal wave of new British culture and bands like Oasis and Blur.
But in a sense, the truth of Tony Blair was available by just looking at his face.
He's got really strange eyes.
One eye, peculiarly squinty, one eye permanently glazed.
Lord, I hope I'm not referring to a disability.
I hope it's just a visible avatar of something peculiar and deeply demonic.
I mention it only because the digital ID scheme has long been offered.
And now that it's being bought finally into policy, at least by 2029, you, if you're in the UK, will have to do that.
Remember, that means that if one day they decide they don't like you, they'll be able to fade out your finances, they'll be able to prevent you travelling.
It's perfect.
It's perfect control.
Of course, the way it's going to be sold and offered to you is you know, it's going to be convenient, it's going to make you safe.
What do you want to become?
Why you want to participate in their attempts to turn yourself into some sort of latent blob, just some pustule, sat there staring, drooling and obeying.
This is an opportunity to fight back.
But hey, it's probably it's probably conspiratorial of me to see some connections between what Blair mooted and what Keir Starmer is in acting.
You know, there would be clear clues.
Like you'd find out that the company that had been given the contract to introduce digital ID would be run by like, I don't know, Tony Blair's son or something.
What?
This just it is Tony Blair's son running it.
You and Blair runs the company that's been charged.
Huh!
That's interesting.
It's all just information.
Try not to have an emotional reaction, just take the information and respond to it.
Here is some information.
Tony Blair wanted digital ID.
Kirstar's giving you digital ID.
Tony Blair's son is the CEO of the company that are gonna financially benefit from it.
In a way, that's the one of the most forgivable aspects of all this.
You know, I want my kids to do well in the world.
I suppose the real distinction is that I'm not a channel for demonic forces that want to enslave the good people of Earth and bring about a kind of global factory system, a kind of global penitentiary, a new surf era where centralized global overlords can control you using technology.
Vast fields only depicted previously in science fiction, brought to your life now by some of the people that are so innocuous, but you could be sat on public transport with them and not even look to your side.
Keir Starmer could probably come into your room in the dead of night and put his hand under the blanket and you wouldn't notice it.
These are people that are difficult to notice and observe.
How have they got so much power?
Let me know in the comments and chat how they seem to have become so enormously powerful.
And that is why today I am announcing this government will make a new free of charge digital ID mandatory for the right to work by the end of this parliament.
Let me spell that out.
You will not be able to work in the United Kingdom if you do not have digital ID.
It's as simple as that.
Because decent, pragmatic, fair-minded people.
They want us to tackle the issues that they see around them.
And of course, the truth is we won't solve our problems if we don't also take on the root causes.
Looking upstream.
There you go.
He seems pretty confident, authoritarian, almost dictatorial.
So he must have a powerful mandate for these policies, right?
No, he's the least popular prime minister that we've ever had.
And by God, we've had some real humdingers.
A glance through the annals, I said annals, reveals some of the most ludicrous, outrageous and inept nitwits that history could ever cough up.
They've come straight out of Eton and all the way to Westminster.
They've been through Oxbridge and they've landed in the driving seat of your little life, and here at the pinnacle in the apex, we see him now.
King of Kings, Ozzy Mandias, Keir Starmer looming over you in the dead of night.
And if you want to work, if you're saying you're plotted, well, we'll get a mandatory, but free.
Do you basically put in free at some point like it was like a gift in a pack of frosties?
ID card.
That's what you are being offered.
Of course, this idea, as I've said many times, has been long mooted.
Here's a accompany post.
Um, the government's playing on voter ID, risk locking people out of democracy.
Oh, that's in charge.
Ha ha ha ha.
So, right, he he um he said previously that it's a bad idea, but now it's a good idea.
That's fascinating.
Keir Starmer asked how compulsory ID will stop illegal working.
Oh, that'll be interesting.
And here's Blair talking about it.
Tony Blair, digital ID is the disruption the UK desperately needs.
Imagine your health information was all in one place.
Easy with your permission for anyone anywhere in the health service to see that your passport, driving license, anything you need to prove your identity, one you were in one simple digital wallet, unique to you.
You could purchase and pay for any goods or services using your digital ID.
Can you imagine the with the ineptitude of this government, the kind of cybercrime that you'll be exposed to?
That even if their intentions were good, they don't have the authority and uh acumen to handle that level of power.
But you already know about the five eyes countries, right?
Because Edward Snowden told you all about it.
They share data on one another, they get round domestic laws on spying by sharing data on Australian citizens with the New Zealand government or the UK government with American citizens.
This, you do not give this amount of power to people unless you trust them.
And let me know in the comments and chat do you trust Keir Starmer?
Do you think he has your best intentions at heart?
Even the legacy media are cynical about this.
This is from the Telegraph, a British newspaper.
Keir Starmer has reached the stage that signifies the final stuttering demise of every drain drained, divided and directionless government.
Rocked by scandal, unable to constrain the rise in debt, and desperate to change the subject.
He's hit on that perennial answer answer in search of a problem.
Mandatory ID cards.
ID cards are always sold as the answer to whatever is bothering voters at that moment.
That is what happens.
Are you worried about COVID?
Have an ID card.
Are you worried about AIDS?
Have an ID card.
Are you worried about migrants?
Have an ID card.
Are you worried that you've been found out with Ukrainian rent boys?
Don't have an ID card.
That's not my idea.
I don't know where they came from.
Now it happens to be illegal immigration.
In reality, of course, the solution to illegal immigration is to stop people entering the country improperly rather than to tighten controls on the entire problem.
ID ID cards have done nothing to solve the problem on the continent.
The arguments in favour of the plan have swithered around a bit over the last 30 years, but that can't be said to have advanced.
Blair is making exactly the same case he was making when he left office in 07.
The arguments against, though, have become vastly more potent as technology has put previously unimaginable powers into the hands of state officials.
This is no longer an abstract an abstract danger.
We can see how those powers abused are abused overseas.
Let's have a look at um this article's now describing what happens in China.
And remember, at the beginning of the pandemic era, what we felt was that countries like yours and mine were v distinct and significantly different from the China of the Chinese Communist Party.
That British people and American people wouldn't sit obediently and compliantly in their homes, wouldn't wear masks, wouldn't take vaccines unless there was clear demonstrable data that they were reliable.
Now, at the beginning of the pandemic, there was this sort of flow, this outpouring of well-being and a kind of a sense of unity, cohesion and togetherness, which quickly collapsed and faded when pre-people to some degree or another realized they were being lied to and exploited.
Let's have a look at how the UK planned to use digital ID systems that appear already to be operating in China.
China's steadily made its cards more powerful, beginning with laminated cards in the 80s and they that became fully digital this year.
Every stage the changes were presented as measures against identity theft and money laundering.
Good for convenience and safety, of course.
China Daily, the English language newspaper published by the Central Propaganda Department, at least in China, they call it the Central the propaganda department.
In Britain, they call it things like the BBC.
In your country, they call it things like MSNBC.
Sometimes they they actually don't know that they're doing propaganda.
Forgive them.
They know not what they do.
People go to work, they hang up their coats, they take out their laptops.
They think they're doing good and earnest work.
We're helping people.
We're telling the truth.
They get in line for their coffee.
They sit there so sincerely.
They think they understand so clearly.
They think they love their life and the world so dearly.
They don't know.
They're working for the British version of propaganda.
At the Guardian, they don't realize that they are paid and corralled trolls, bolted to their desk, bolted to their ideals.
It's extraordinary.
It's a system that you have to marvel at, except for its malfeasance, where you're not able to see its black-lipped evil, it's blue-spittle necromancy.
You would have to applaud them for their ingenuity.
The Central Propaganda Department reassured its readers in 2013 that the biometric data embedded in the cards would reduce potential crimes involving identity fraud.
In fact, the cards were becoming essential for an increasing number of everyday activities.
You now need them to catch a train, apply a job, apply buy a sim card, open a bank account, or rent a flat.
Can you like do you see now that using the mural of recent events, specifically in this instance, the way that the trucker protests in Canada, that bastion of liberalism was handled, where they were condemned as Nazis.
If they're Nazis, you can do what you want, right?
They had their bank accounts frozen.
Even people that donated to the trucker's cause had their bank accounts frozen.
It's the ingredients are available now.
You can see, you don't really have an excuse anymore for compliance and obedience.
You can see plainly what's happening with a subject like digital ID cards in the UK.
You have the reference point of China, you have the reference point of Canada.
So China you might look at as you know, oriental to use the phrase that would have once been used, it's a different place, it's a different world.
But Canada is fundamentally uh Anglophonic Western liberal democracy, and they had no problem there with authoritarianism.
They just dress it up nicer, they make it boring, they make it acceptable, they sugar the pill.
It's not even sugar, it's saccharine, it's not even a real stimulant.
The ch uh the this puts vast powers of surveillance and control in the hands of state officials.
ID cards combined with advanced geolocation and face recognition technology have come to underpin what the Chinese call the social credit system.
That means you're given credit for your behaviour and for your conduct.
Remember that vast surveillance networks were put in place some time ago, you know, for crime, because they taught you to hate migrants or youths or young black kids or young Muslim kids or young white kids, whatever kids they uh you know, convenient, the ones that will stimulate you into a place of hate so they can then offer you a solution.
Why don't we have cameras absolutely everywhere?
Okay, then if that's going to protect us and keep us safe.
Now those cameras mean that you're continually observed.
And that part's already in place.
Now we've been trained to carry phones and stare at screens.
Now we're being trained to accept the idea of digital ID.
But the truth of the matter is to pivot slightly, that the UK is a place that's full of unrest and a kind of burgeoning rage that can only be correctly directed if you ask me, and let me know what you think about this in the comments and chat, through an ideology transcendent of the kind of materialism of our time.
I mean specifically Christianity.
And one of the things that made that march in the UK that maybe three million people attended or a hundred thousand, depends on newspaper you read or don't read.
One of the things that was very positive, because we had our reporter, our man Joe on the ground there, was that people were carrying crucifixes.
People were speaking the name of Jesus Christ.
Just the name itself is a rebuke and repudiation to the demonic forces that are seizing control through human institutions and through measures like digital ID will implement that further.
It's in the Bible.
This is what they do.
They seize control of our operating systems and then they use it to implement evil and total control.
Here's Keir Starmer saying that uh the United Kingdom marches sent shivers through the spines of many communities.
I wonder what he meant by that.
Of course, what he'll say is that it was a threat to non-white people.
But we had people there, and those folks are not racist.
That march that we had here um two weeks ago in London in Whitehall, um, that sent shivers through The spines of many of our communities well away from London, not just those in the immediate vicinity.
So there's a battle for the soul of this country now as to what sort of country do we want to be?
Because there is a battle for the soul of the country.
That is true.
Inadvertently, Keir Starmer has described the exact dynamic.
But while doing it, he's been careful to demonise a significant portion of the population that are clearly concerned about migration and the nation's identity.
And they're right to be.
If you were to ask me, and I suppose you are because you're watching this, I would say that all of our shared focus should be on centralized power within government and corporate power that goes beyond national government.
Globalism is the real threat.
There's no question that part of globalism is mass migration and one would say unmediated and not correctly checked or regulated migration, and this that's clear that that's causing problems in communities, notably obviously Epping and a variety of others.
But this is what I strongly believe, and what I urge to you is that we must find ways of living lovingly with one another when it comes to our actual geographical locations, our streets, our towns, and our communities, because if we can't do that, they can manage us, they can arrest us, they can control us.
Who are the institutions?
This is a real question.
Who are the institutions that benefit from migration?
Yes, you could argue that the migrants themselves might benefit from economic opportunity in extreme and plausible and real and authentic cases, they benefit by being granted refuge from whatever dangers and dread they fled.
That's important, that's not nothing.
But more important is how is migration used?
Look, in the ID card instance, you have a very deliberate, clear, tangible example.
The issue of migration is being used to legitimise ID cards.
One, it's being used to fuel discontent between ordinary working people that might otherwise have affinity and even affiliation with one another.
Three, it's creating suspicion and cynicism and doubt among people when they're walking and working and living in the United Kingdom, concerns about housing and doctors' appointments and very real, significant and important issues are all being located on the issue of migration.
You like I'm not very good at chess.
I know this because I recently tried to play it against an aeroplane computer, and I can only beat it on easy.
Because I'm not very good at thinking several moves ahead.
But we have to start thinking several moves ahead.
If we focus entirely on migration and the issue of migration, what are they gonna do?
Well, maybe they'll say we're controlling migration now.
Maybe they'll introduce digital ID cards.
I want you to imagine just as a thought experiment for a moment that every single migrant in the UK or the USA was instantly removed right now.
Who's in power now in this new cleansed and perfect land of yours?
Who's in power now?
Is it the same government?
Is it the same institutions?
Is it the same media?
It is, isn't it?
And how are they going to continue to deploy and exercise that vast and terrible power over your lives?
What do you think will meaningfully and really change?
I'm not arguing about the particulars of the subject of migration and the concerns that people have.
I'm saying that do that it's very, very important that we don't tumble into a trap of myopically focusing on a single issue, but instead focus on what might what that issue might represent, and how like when I spoke to Tommy Robinson, for example, he said that the media portray the subject of migration in a particular way, and the government benefit from migration in a particular way.
Media, government.
So who's the real baddies and where should our attention be?
Again, my only hope is that my meager and small contribution to this conversation can be the presence of some love and conscious awareness, which I believe will ultimately be proven to be the same thing.
Love and conscious awareness to this matter, because I think this might be in the UK in particular, a culminative event.
That were we able to say, like, if you are real invested in the subject of migration, if you're really concerned about rape gangs, if you're concerned about your own family in your own community because of a hotel near you that houses asylum seekers, all of those concerns are legitimate.
Do you have a vision in your mind of a United Kingdom after that problem has been resolved, where British Muslims and British non-Muslims, Christians, atheists, Sikhs, Jews can live harmoniously together.
Do you think that can be achieved with any of the political parties and leaders currently vying for power in Westminster?
Do you think any of the cultural leaders right now are in the right space?
Do you think the systems themselves can accommodate a peaceful Britain?
Have you even do you even dare to dream about peace anymore?
I mean, individual peace, peace for you.
Or have you just accepted that your life is going to be, oh well, now our kids are getting conscripted and are going to war with Russia?
Oh, well, there's another rapist in a migration hotel down the street.
Is that what it's gonna be for us forever now?
I really believe in all of you that are dedicated to patriotism because I recognize what's behind the idea.
A kind of control, a kind of delicious nostalgia, a kind of righteousness, a kind of reverence for ancestors and a hope for the future.
My only prayer is that we incorporate into this idea the true power of permanent government beyond national government and within it, the true power of media, the entire spectrum of national and international media, its ability to influence and control conversations and therefore policy and therefore events, and indeed beyond even that, sets of institutional power that have to be seen as global.
Somehow we have to hold all this in our hearts and minds, and we can't do that without Christ or you know, I mean, I only know that path, so I can only advocate for the path that I've been shown.
The absolute love available through Christ.
That's the only path.
Let me know what you think.
That's just what I think, though.
Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.
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