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Of course, since the Trump verdict, we're seeing almost a new wave of martyrdom.
This is an extraordinary time to see the reframing of the position of Donald Trump, because it seems that the more the attacks are amplified, the more the ardour and the devotion increases.
Meanwhile, in a House oversight committee, Anthony Fauci faces his own reckoning and has to answer questions that any of you that have been paying attention will be well familiar with Him saying, oh, there's six feet social distancing.
It just kind of appeared.
But the fact is this is migrated now from peripheral spaces that were condemned as conspiratorial into the mainstream.
And also we'll be talking about Alex Jones, who it seems is facing deep state attacks and an attempt to conflate his evident and obvious wrongdoing in falsely claiming that the Sandy Hook murders were a false flag event.
into kind of suggesting that he's somehow responsible for the entire affair.
We are asking you today, and I want you to let me know in the description right now,
Kyle Rino and T. Ryan and Freedom Sphere, what is justice now? Who do you trust?
In a world where people are increasingly immoral and amoral, I don't mean people actually,
I mean our institutions and our systems, who can claim to speak for justice?
And can you even have justice if you don't have God?
Pretty big questions, but they're questions that we'll be answering Live from Rumble HQ, we gave you a little poll earlier to ask what you wanted to talk about.
And in fact, whether or not you thought that Trump would ultimately win the election as a result of the what many are calling lawfare being waged against him.
And of course, you do.
We're also we're going to move straight now into talking about Anthony Fauci.
Now, what I want you to try and do is play a game called Then and Now.
Because if you watch this hearing carefully and closely, what you're kind of being invited to believe is that during the pandemic period, we were gently invited to consider Whether or not we wanted to stay locked up in our homes.
Would we mind if we kept six feet of arbitrary distance from people when we were communicating?
Would we consider it helpful to take a medication that scientifically doesn't even warrant the use of the name vaccine?
But you may remember that that's not what happened in 2020.
There were hysterical, hyperbolic campaigns.
There was shaming, blaming, attempts to control and curtail, not just in your country, the United States of America, but in Australia, New Zealand, my country.
A global attempt to assert authority at an unprecedented scale took place, and who stood as its figurehead?
You could make an argument that Bill Gates was a key voice and a key beneficiary and a key advocate for the measures that took place, but Anthony Fauci is surely peerless.
It was he, after all, that claimed to be the science, the personification of science in the same way that Elvis Presley was the personification of rock and roll.
Well, let me tell you, Anthony Fauci ain't dancing no more.
He's being pinned to the wall, sprawled on a pin by Marjorie Taylor Greene.
This is an extraordinary turnabout.
Marjorie Taylor Greene, who's often talked about in derisory terms and condemned because she seems kind of Southern and sort of arse shucks and kind of vulgar.
To see this woman take Anthony Fauci to task is a beautiful sight to behold.
And what I want you to remember as he equivocates and prevaricates and fills his speech with caveats is that they were very certain indeed.
They were certain that you should be shamed.
They were certain you should take those medications which increasingly seem to be more deserving of the term gene therapy.
Where did all the certainty go?
And how can we trust the institutions that were so certain then when now they seem so full of doubt?
So this is that story, of course.
There's a bombshell testimony from Fauci as he revealed he made up the six-foot social distancing rule and other measures.
You know, I don't recall.
It just sort of appeared.
You'll be familiar with that story by now.
Let's have a look at Marjorie Taylor Greene, in a sense, the voice of the people in this instance.
Look, we know that the country's divided now.
We know that the world's divided now.
And what I want to invite you to consider is, the people that hate Marjorie Taylor Greene, how do they feel when they watch this?
And how do they justify their disdain?
How other than elitism would you condemn Marjorie Taylor Greene for pointing out that there are cruel scientific experiments that were signed off by Anthony Fauci using or misusing animals?
That he should be taken to task and held to account for his certainty, for his own hyperbole?
Over the course of this section, you'll hear and be reminded of Anthony Fauci's certainty.
Remember when he said that people drop their bullshit, their ideological bullshit will be dropped once BF Skinner behavioral techniques are used against them.
Remember what has taken place and for a moment, Forget about the vengeance and forget about the validation and think instead if this is what we know now about what were they doing then, what can we assume now about what they're doing when it comes to the Trump trial, when it comes to free speech, when it comes to their increasingly desperate attempts to control our ability to communicate together and therefore unify and oppose them.
Let's have a look at Marjorie Taylor Greene Taking Fauci to task and the light for a moment in what appears to be a clash between cultures.
Do you represent science, Mr. Fauci?
I am a scientist who uses the scientific method to gain information.
Yes or no?
So, you know, before it wasn't so caveated, was it?
Before, it was a lot more confident and a lot more certain.
Already, you can see that the dynamic is changing.
Do you, for a moment, though, imagine that this will lead to any kind of justice?
What do you mean by justice now?
Can we believe that there is an objective, transcendent, ulterior entity that is issuing justice?
Are you certain that what we don't have now is a set of institutions that deploy For utility, whatever tools or means they have to hand.
Hopefully, this will lead to Anthony Fauci facing a proper reckoning for some of the dreadful decisions he made, for some of the corruption, for what looks like deep institutional corruption.
But maybe not.
Maybe not, because simultaneous to this, we're experiencing the Trump verdict.
Simultaneous to this, we're seeing a world seeking to impose censorship and control wherever it might be possible.
Yes or no?
No, that's not a yes or no answer.
Yes, it's a yes or no.
I don't think it is.
OK, well, we'll take that as a you don't know what you represent.
Oh, I... But this, as director of the NIH, you did sign off on these so-called scientific experiments.
And as a dog lover, I want to tell you this is disgusting and evil.
What you... I like that because that's obviously something that's very personal to her and it's been on her mind.
Who don't love dogs?
Like, do you know what she's doing there?
This is actually quite interesting because...
With Alex Jones's ongoing persecution, there's sort of an attempt to conflate him incorrectly saying that Sandy Hook was a false flag event.
With the brutality of the murders themselves, you know?
And now Anthony Fauci is having to face the consequences of science as a subset of commodification.
Science as a subset of the agenda of Big Pharma.
How ridiculous it now seems that Pfizer were ever heralded as heroes.
Oh thank you Pfizer!
Albert Ball are in your moonshot!
Moderna and your miracles, Johnson and Johnson and your kindness and compassion, as if it were Johnson and Johnson and Jesus.
No, what we're getting to see now is that the pharmaceutical industry is a for-profit endeavour, that Anthony Fauci is a public official that has facilitated enormous profits, that potentially the entire pandemic period was about experimenting with the degrees to which they could get away with social control.
And these experiments that happened to beagles paid for by the American taxpayer.
And I want you to know Americans don't pay their taxes for animals to be tortured like this.
So the type of science that you are representing, Mr. Fauci, is abhorrent.
You confess that you made up the COVID rules.
Including six feet social distancing and masking of children.
I never said I made anything up.
You admitted that you made up.
You made it up.
I didn't say I made it up.
So are you saying this is fake news, Mr. Fauci?
I didn't say I made anything up.
What did you say?
I said that it is not based in science and it just appeared.
So that's different.
This is the best birthday present I could have.
Anthony Fauci being taken to task by that peroxide blonde demon woman doing the work of righteousness.
Like, do you remember, it's just a couple of weeks ago that we saw AOC, like, girl, baby, girl.
If Marjorie Taylor Greene were doing the whims of the establishment right now, they'll be saying, this is a feminist hero taking the patriarchy to task.
But what What methods will they find to deride Marjorie Taylor Greene?
Oh god, she's vulgar.
What's dogs got to do with science?
What's cruelty got to do with anything?
Do you remember at the beginning of the pandemic period when people started talking about dual-purpose research?
When people talked about the lab leak theory versus the natural origin theory?
Do you remember the certainty, the condemnation, the criticism?
We're living in extraordinary times.
What I'm suggesting to you today Is that this is a pivotal moment when it comes to the Trump trial, even what's happening with Alex Jones and certainly what's happening with Anthony Fauci.
We're looking at the concept of justice itself and we are looking at an establishment cracking and falling apart, reaching in every possible direction to find whatever weapons it can to bring down and curtail potential opposition.
Everywhere you look, dissidents and opponents of the establishment are having the legal system deployed against them.
Everywhere you look, Outspoken critics of the establishment are being smeared.
It's a playbook.
They've lost our trust.
They've lost the consensus.
They're losing control.
When you look at Anthony Fauci being confronted by Marjorie Taylor Greene, you are looking at a sea change.
You are looking at an epochal moment.
Because remember, where's Colbert's vaccine dancers now?
Where's the cavalcade of chorus girls?
Oh, is it okay to find Anthony Fauci sexy?
I hope he's not too sexy when he's doing proper jail time.
That I hope.
No!
Oh no!
It was all a massive con.
The people that seemed to be hysterical on the periphery were the actual harbingers of truth.
We should have been more circumspect.
Those of us, those of you that maybe took those medications, At some point all of us did stuff that we were told, didn't we?
All of us stayed in our houses and we shouldn't condemn ourselves or actually condemn others.
Let's look at this in good faith.
Let's assume that people were obedient, not because people like to be subjugated and like to be subordinated.
This is America.
This is the land of the free.
This is where freedom is the credo.
Your individual and collective liberty is the chief among all of your ideals.
Let's just assume that people were obedient because of the sanctity of human life, because we should love one another, that that is the utmost among the commandments.
Love one another.
If we have to stay in our homes to protect one another, then stay in our homes.
If we have to take a new experimental product to protect one another, I'll take it.
Wouldn't you not do that to protect your children?
If someone said to me, we've just developed this in a laboratory, take it now, it'll protect your kids, I'll do it right away.
If someone says you've got to stay in your home, you can't leave the house ever again, it'll protect your children, You got me.
The problem is, it was a lie.
And they knew it was a lie.
And they pretended that it was true in order to assert control.
This was always about authority.
What are you saying, Knights Nicholas?
What are you saying?
Not everyone is American.
I know that.
I'm actually from a little country called England myself.
I'm stripping you of that.
Marjorie Taylor Greene's really leaning into the moment.
Actually, that PhD, that's gone.
This is not an interview that Anthony Fauci would get on the BBC, MSNBC, CNN, any of those spaces that deified him.
And reified his work and presented him as if he were a little Caesar of science, a man given incredible power, a man given incredible public resources, a man benefiting, it seems, from royalties from pharmaceutical companies who we trusted as if he was objective.
What delirium we were laboring under.
Nah, I don't need your answer.
That man does not deserve to have a license.
As a matter of fact, it should be revoked, and he belongs in prison.
Here you are, without your mask, where you got to go and enjoy the game, and sit right- Look at you!
You're having the time of your life!
If you're watching us on YouTube right now, we'll be available there for a couple of minutes.
Because remember, on YouTube, there are certain things you still can't say because they use the WHO's guidelines.
Even as the WHO, through their treaty, tries to subvert and subordinate your democracy and your individual freedom, tech giants and media conglomerates operate in conjunction with them to control your ability to communicate and your ability to be free.
So eventually you're going to have to click that We're going to be talking, of course, about the significance of the Trump verdict and the incredible amount of money that's been raised since then and how people died in the wall.
Pavlovsky about the fight for free speech and about how this movement is growing and
how we are becoming more powerful together than ever.
And we're going to be talking of course about the significance of the Trump verdict and
the incredible amount of money that's been raised since then and how people died in the
wall Democrats, liberals, champagne socialists, people that were part of the metropolitan
establishment are starting to think, God, is Trump actually the answer?
We're not just talking about MAGA people now.
We're talking about a revolution across America as even the metropolitan pearl clutching, mask wearing, God-fearing, COVID-revering, start to recognise that something significant is happening in this culture, something significant is happening in this country, and we want to be part of it together.
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Okay, listen, do you know what?
I've enjoyed Marjorie Taylor Greene.
She's never less than magnificent, but let's get into some of the other moments.
There's some of the other moments.
This is Andy Fauci confidently claiming that he never attempted to suppress the Lab League theory.
Remember that?
Remember, there wasn't a coordinated set of front pages all across the world.
Remember, you didn't have to learn the name of what they called pantagolans, them little armadillo things.
I won't memorize their name.
Out of respect for the Lab League theory, I'm not even learning the name of that thing that's called something like a pantagolan.
For the record, because today you testified that you did not suppress the lab leak theory, yet in the past you have said, quote, it is a distortion of reality, unquote.
You've said, quote, I've heard these conspiracy theories and like all conspiracy theories, they're just conspiracy theories.
That's what you told the American people.
And so, would you like to clarify what science were you following then versus now?
Yeah, no, actually, I've also been very, very clear.
They use science like medieval times used God.
They utilized God back then to persecute martyrs and to assume control.
Science is about An objective process of experimentation, examination, communication, and ultimately empirical evidence derived consensus from communication.
It's not people saying, I am the science, and therefore you's lot got to stay in your houses.
I am the science, therefore you better take this medication.
That is not what science is.
Science cannot be empirical if it's a subset or subordinate to other sets of powers.
Don't you agree with that?
I'm not saying anything crazy, am I?
I'm not saying anything crazy there?
He's brilliant this bit.
Thanks for telling me, by the way, pangolins.
That's the word I was searching for.
Pangolins.
We all know what pangolins are now.
We all know what spike proteins are now.
What is conspiracy is the kind of distortion...
It's brilliant this bit. Thanks for telling me by the way pangolins.
That's the word I was searching for pangolins We all know what pangolins are now. We all know what spike
proteins are now. We all know what cleavage sites are now We all know what DARPA is and the EcoHealth Alliance, and we all know how the system works because of free speech, because we can communicate openly.
Remember, you were ahead of me.
It was you that told me something unusual is going on.
When we first started communicating at the beginning of the pandemic, you said, this is not the crisis they're pretending that it is.
This is an opportunity to exploit crisis, to implement social control, to generate profit, To create a transfer of wealth.
To legitimise the deeper regulation and control of entire populations.
And you were right.
And thank God you were right.
And thank God you were brave enough to believe in yourself.
Thank God you found the resources within yourself to stay strong under attack when they were saying things like, you should be shamed.
Well done.
It's good, because no one ever said that.
I don't think anyone ever tried to compare Anthony Fauci to Jason Bourne.
Actually, some people did, didn't they?
Because people were saying, oh god, is he sexy?
Is he more Matt Damon or more Ben Affleck?
Oh my god, is it okay to want to slide my hand across his wrinkly little thighs?
It's not okay, no!
He's doing a classic straw man argument here, isn't he?
He's claiming, People saying that I was parachuted into the CIA.
It's simply not true.
People aren't saying that.
People are saying that you emailed the CIA to ensure that there was coordination among deep state agencies and other government outlets and that the legacy media strongly reported on the wet market theory and suppressed the lab leak idea which was condemned as a conspiracy theory from the get-go.
Now we know that Fauci was personally involved in legitimising funding for the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
There is extraordinary information available.
Now, a lot of you that are educated and informed in this space will say, hey, tell me something I don't know.
Well, here's something that you may not know.
If this is what we know about what they were saying then, Then imagine what we can assume about what they're saying now.
This is why people are increasingly willing to vote for Donald Trump.
I know that you guys love him.
I know that already.
I know I'm preaching to the converted when it comes to that issue.
But we're seeing surprising new demographics turning to Trump because it's becoming impossible to ignore.
That the neoliberal establishment is a bigger threat to democracy, a bigger threat to world peace, a bigger threat to individual freedom than anything that they could devise in all their propaganda.
Like Jason Bourne and told the CIA that they should really not be talking about a lab leak.
Thank you.
That's the conspiracy.
We appreciate that.
Appreciate that, Dr Fauci.
We'll see his next little pack of lies.
This one is when he's like he's the decisions he made during the pandemic that the six feet rule.
Is this that bit?
What's not so clear is what the phenomena of excess death is being caused by.
What's not so clear is why there are so many blood clots, turbo cancers, cases of myocarditis, extraordinary new neurological diseases emerging.
What's not so clear is why at the time, there weren't caveated conversations.
The way this guy is talking now is as if at the time, they were saying, "Hey, listen, it's up to you.
"We've got this new medication.
"It's a bit weird.
"We've not had that much time to experiment on it, "even though it appears to have been patented
"a long time ago for some weird reason.
"So take it if you want."
If you're old and if you're vulnerable, maybe you'll consider taking it.
There's no way kids should be taking it.
But that isn't what they said, is it?
It was a combination between Disney World and Jesus they presented us with.
This is your salvation.
This is consequence-free.
Look now at the prevarication and equivocation.
Look now at the reckoning that's taking place.
And observe closely what justice does next.
Because we're assuming, aren't we, that there is such a thing as justice.
That there is such a thing as right and wrong.
And when we see the legal system weaponised, when we see the media weaponised, we don't have democracy anymore.
We don't have freedom anymore.
We have toxic environments and beautiful institutions that have been metastasised to serve the powerful.
And the good news is this.
Only you can oppose them.
Only you.
Not, oh, what can I do?
I'm just one person.
No, you are the only thing that can change the world.
I'm not debating, we're talking about the COVID-19.
Did or do the vaccines, the COVID-19 vaccines stop anyone from getting COVID?
I answered that question to the chairman.
Early on, it became clear that... They did?
No, actually, no.
In the beginning, it... No, don't.
Shut up.
No, don't interrupt me.
I'm science.
...really prevented infection in a certain percentage of people, but the durability of its ability to prevent infection was not long.
It was measured in months.
And they didn't stop you from spreading it, either.
Early on it did if it prevented infection but what became clear that it did not prevent transmission when the ability to prevent infection waned.
Do you remember how it was when he was turning up on shows wearing like a variety of cute masks rolling his eyes behind Trump turning up on the late night talk shows almost flexing in his own peculiar sexuality?
Where was the humility then?
Where was it when we needed it?
Where was justice then?
Where was conversation then?
Where was proper inquiry, legitimacy, transparency, consensus achieved by listening to significant voices like McCulloch, Malone, Bacharia?
All of the significant voices.
Dave Martin, who we've had on our show.
People that were bravely outspoken.
It may even include you.
What did you go through?
What did you sacrifice for Fauci's errors?
What funerals went unattended?
What births went unwitnessed?
What sacrifices did you make socially and emotionally?
What mental illnesses were exacerbated?
What addiction got worse?
What cancer cures... Not cures, I mean... I mean, what cancer treatments were missed?
What price did you pay for the ineptitude of these institutions that have the gall to call themselves democracy?
That have the gall to condemn a former president increasingly for what seems like a set of misdemeanors that are nothing like as bad what's been practiced in the name of democracy.
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This is a significant moment, isn't it?
In American history, perhaps in the history of the world.
I don't just mean because I'm at Rumble and it's my birthday, although it does seem kind of auspicious and important.
No, I'm talking about the potential martyrdom of Donald Trump.
Now, let me be honest with you, as I always try to be.
You look in my eyes and tell me if you believe me, if you can rely on me, if you know that I'm a person just like you who's trying his best.
When Donald Trump Stood for President of the United States the first time.
I said, this is risible and ridiculous.
This ludicrous figure can never become President of the United States.
Well, how little I knew.
When I first saw Donald Trump talking at the top of that escalator, talking about you got to control immigration, I clutched at my own pearls.
And if masks had been a thing, then maybe I would have reached one.
If Pfizer had been offering a product, maybe I would have taken it.
But now we have to say, after the legal system has plainly been used as an attack dog on Donald Trump, that the world has changed.
And what's heartening is that America, and increasingly the whole world, knows it.
Because Donald Trump has raised over $200 million since that guilty verdict, mostly from small donations.
And as he faces down the prospect of prison, is it possible that a figure like Donald Trump Could be regarded as some modern-day Tangerine Nelson Mandela?
Is there a risk that the establishment, in their increasing condemnation of Donald Trump, is making him a greater and greater martyr?
And is it possible that, as our trust in the judiciary, in the legacy media, in big tech platforms that are corrupted and controlled by the deep state Mockingbird .20?
That increasingly people that would have never dreamed of voting for Donald Trump are turning in the direction of that tower.
And I can speak personally as a former member of the Hollywood glitterati, as a former member of the champagne socialist establishment myself, something extraordinary is happening.
New demographics are being reached.
The potential for a new review is happening right now.
Let me just tell you a few of the things that help me to understand this differently.
If Donald Trump is facing justice because he used campaign funds in this way and this hush money was paid to Stormzy Daniels, then I can tell you something else that happened that was pretty significant.
Why, way back in the early 2000s, a president of the United States called George W. Bush told the entire world that Iraq and Saddam Hussein in particular had weapons of mass destruction and that America and all of America's allies should go to war.
Well, guess what?
There were no weapons of mass destruction.
Guess what?
Over a million Iraqis died.
You tell me the service personnel that you know that suffered, lost their lives, lost their limbs, lost their minds as a result of those lies.
Is George W. Bush going to be standing trial anytime soon?
Is Barack Obama, for the erroneous droning of Syrian weddings, going to be facing trial anytime soon?
Is Bill Clinton, for his corruption and deregulation of industries that have gone on to exploit this country to cost you money, going to be facing justice anytime soon?
And is Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden gonna be facing justice anytime soon?
Maybe Hunter will because of the old gun toting.
Who knows?
But when the judiciary becomes a weapon of the establishment, we have no judiciary.
And when we have an establishment that tells us that there is no God, that there are no rules except for the rules and regulations that they apparently just arbitrarily set, Six feet social distancing just sort of appeared.
Donald Trump campaign funds just sort of appeared.
Now, I know Donald Trump ain't perfect, but we're not looking for perfection right now.
We're looking for a force to oppose a pretty corrupt system.
And there are some principles we can rely on.
Free speech, And a simple little idea called my enemy's enemy is my friend.
Whatever you might believe about Donald Trump, the establishment do not like that guy.
Let's have a little look at what's happened since that verdict, that significant verdict.
There's been an astonishing fundraising effort and Trump has become increasingly emboldened.
Do you believe, by the way, if you're watching us, Do you?
Yeah, the only people, Turbo1980, I've got to agree with you, man.
Zack1328, RoxanneCruisingBuns, I'm agreeing with everything you're saying.
Everything you're saying.
Yeah, DoubleStand doesn't make Trump a lovely chap with integrity.
Yes, this is where we come for our free speech.
This is where we can openly have these conversations.
Yeah, remember, Clinton did not have sex with that woman.
Extraordinary, isn't it?
It's an extraordinary time.
Now, is it possible that Trump will be so empowered by his new position as the figurehead of this, I would say, global anti-establishment movement, that he would consider, in truth and in earnest, going after the deep state?
He said in a recent interview on Foxy Friends, or whatever that show's called, Five Foxy Friends Together, Would you declassify the 9-11 files?
Yeah.
Would you declassify JFK files?
Yeah.
I did a lot of it.
would release the JFK files. Let's have a look at that.
A bit more of a pause on the Epstein Files.
Let's have a look though.
This could be a significant moment.
What's going to happen?
Is there a serious possibility that he will face house arrest or even jail?
Or at some point will the establishment start to recognise that this tactic is not working?
Let's have a look at Donald Trump willingly embracing the idea of martyrdom.
I'm okay with it.
I saw one of my lawyers the other day on television saying, oh no, you don't want to do that to the president.
I said, you don't beg for anything.
I don't know that the public would stand it.
I'm not sure the public would stand for it.
Now, when Alex Jones says that there is an attempt to instigate a race war in your great country, in your great melting pot of a country, in your country where Americans of all cultures, religions and hues surely have the chance to independently and freely live together, democratically, representatively, in harmony together, When we are told by Alex Jones that there will be a race war before the election, well, it being Alex Jones, the establishment will tell you it's hysteria.
But when Bill Maher says that potentially we could see an America divided by race war, well, how are we to take that?
And when we see establishment figures migrating from the centre to these new spaces of resistance, This new movement that you're part of, this new attempt to assert some basic common sense principles, free speech, electoral democracy, representative democracy, institutions that haven't been captured by globalists.
When you see Members of the establishment, funded by the establishment, captured by the establishment, controlled by big pharma money, controlled by the military-industrial complex, turning against them.
You have to recognize something significant is happening.
Do you think this is a pivotal moment?
Let me know in the chat, guys.
If they put him in jail, I know it will happen.
Everything becomes racial in this country.
That's partly because of our horrible, despicable racial past.
Partly because some of that racism lives on in the present.
And some of it because the far left makes everything racial.
But that's what it's gonna be.
Civil war in this country, I'm sorry to say, becomes a race war.
That's the sad truth about this country.
And if they put him in jail, I mean, that's the first thing his supporters are going to say is, oh, that's what it is.
A black district attorney, you know, all these people who are the district attorneys, they're black.
The judge was not white.
This is what it is.
Now that I have found a new path and my own relationship with a personal saviour, I feel more comfortable playing devil's advocate.
Let's assume that what Trump did was wrong, paying hush money from campaign funds.
Let's put to one side that that's precisely what the Clinton campaign did with the Steele dossier.
Let's think, what does justice in America mean really?
What is crime in America really?
And who gets to decide?
And when you see this image, do you imagine that none of these people should face trial?
We're looking at the faces of George Bush 1, George Bush 2, Clinton 1, Clinton 2, Obama 1, Obama 2.
Do you not think that the collective crimes undertaken in the name of globalism, undertaken at the behest of the military-industrial complex, done in denial of the principles of the foundation of your great nation, all similarly face a judicial reckoning?
You know what my personal beliefs are.
Decentralisation.
The power to control your life should be as close to you as possible.
The ability for corporations or State departments and agencies to intervene in your freedom should be minimised at all cost.
That your agency, above all else, with a set of principles and morals derived from your personal relationship with whatever you call God, that should be the defining power in American life and the defining principle in how we confront what seems to me not to be merely powers of the flesh but dark powers and dark principalities co-opting the power of our planet.
How can we look at that rogues gallery and say that it's more significant that Donald Trump paid hush money to Stormzy Daniels to keep her quiet using funds taken from the wrong box than the Iraq war, than the various campaigns in Syria, than the, well let's look back a few years, the British meddling in Middle Eastern territories and all of the destruction and death that it's led to.
Let us Pray that a new way can be found.
Let us pray that something resembling justice may emerge at a time when that word is in danger of losing all of its meaning.
Let's move now to... Let me know what you think, by the way.
That's just what I think.
Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat, because if what Donald Trump did was wrong, then surely what Obama did, what Clinton did, what both the Bushes did was... It's seriously in need of some judicial review.
Let me know what you think, guys, in the chat.
Now, Alex Jones is not a man who is known to hold back when it comes to expressing his emotions.
And I think that many of the criticisms of Alex Jones come from the inability of people to understand what he is.
Alex Jones, in my view, is not like a sort of a journalist or an academic.
He's like a preacher, an evangelist.
If anything, he's a shaman.
How can Alex Jones be dismissed Dismissed in an instant here as a conspiracy theorist.
Look at this.
After a weekend in which conspiracy theorist Alex Jones warned his media company facing an imminent shutdown by a federal government, because that is indeed what's happening, using the leverage of the incorrect things that Alex Jones said about Sandy Hook, for which he has apologised, for which he has been quite handsomely sued to the tune of, I think, one and a half billion dollars, the CIA and Deep State want to shut him down.
By his fruits shall we know him.
If what is happening is Alex Jones is being shut down, do you think that the intention is to shut Alex Jones down?
Given that we've seen video of a CIA operative saying, yeah, the Feds wanted to shut Alex Jones down.
The CIA have been working to shut Alex Jones down.
How do you do that?
Oh, we do that by bankrupting them.
Through the judiciary, through the legal system.
That's what they're doing to Trump.
I've had things like that happen to me.
That's how they operate now.
That is their playbook.
And how can you casually, like... If I was going to call someone a conspiracy theorist, and there's no doubt Alex Jones has said things by his own acknowledgement that are not true.
There's no question about that.
Alex Jones is an eccentric dude.
He's an eccentric dude.
I love him.
He's an eccentric dude.
But to call Alex Jones a conspiracy theorist, you're going to have to ignore the fact But before 9-11, literally before, you can watch this on video, Alex Jones said, there's this guy called Osama Bin Laden and there's going to be an attack on the World Trade Center and they're going to blame Osama Bin Laden.
Now, if that's a conspiracy theorist, you know, Not a soothsayer, not someone with access to incredible information, not someone with a degree of prescience.
If that's someone that you want to dismiss out of hand as a nutjob, then I don't think you have a nuanced or articulate enough system.
In fact, what I think you have is an agenda.
I think you have an agenda to shut down people with the balls to go against the establishment.
No one's saying that what Alex Jones said about Sandy Hook was correct.
Even Alex Jones himself says that was incorrect.
But the attempt to conflate him saying that with the atrocity of the murder itself is dubious and bogus.
Do you notice how in this instance and in numerous instances victims are curated and collated?
We have some victims here and because of these victims this person can never speak publicly again.
Oh that's convenient because that person was saying some pretty important stuff that was antithetical to the intentions and agenda of the establishment but Guess we better listen to all these victims that have appeared from somewhere.
Again, no one is saying that what Alex Jones said about Sandy Hook was correct.
Alex Jones has apologised.
Alex Jones has been sued.
The fact is, is it's a terrible thing when children lose their lives in a massacre.
It's a terrible thing when people commit crimes and atrocities.
Genuine victims should be revered and respected and need to have a justice system that people
can rely on.
That is why it's disgusting and appalling that these victims are exploited and deployed
in order to pursue the agenda of the establishment.
So is Alex Jones being attacked because of what he said about Sandy Hook?
Or is Alex Jones being attacked because he is an opponent of foreign wars and therefore an opponent of the globalist agenda?
You'll have to decide that for yourself.
Let's have a look at Alex Jones dealing with the challenges that he's facing.
Here's just a few of the headlines saying they want me shut down.
Is he on PJW?
That's PJW set, no?
That's pretty mad.
Down in 11 days.
They want me shut down.
They don't want money.
Say it again.
They want me shut down.
A pretty extraordinary outburst there from Alex, but also he's bought his receipts.
Let's have a look at the viral emotional moment where Alex Jones was dealing with what seems to be a pretty serious deep state threat.
At the end of the day, we're gonna beat these people.
I'm not trying to be dramatic here, but it's a bit of a hard fight.
These people hate our children.
Just take more calls.
Go ahead.
There's the next person.
The world is changing.
Let's not claim that Alex Jones is like a regular CNN or MSNBC pundit.
He's coming from another place.
And I can tell you what it feels like when the establishment turns on you, when the legacy media turns on you, when legal systems are deployed against you.
It is a terrifying thing.
We are facing something that requires serious opposition.
We are facing a force that is not going to be resolved by Bureaucracy and technocracy is going to be challenged by and opposed by, if we're to have any success, real passion and a real willingness to sacrifice and a real willingness to stand up against what seem to me increasingly to be nefarious powers.
Because the fact that people are exploited in this world, people are abused in this world, people have been assaulted in this world, because these things are real, Real threats.
Because a school massacre is the worst thing that anyone can imagine.
Losing a child is the worst thing any parent can imagine.
These are sensitive areas.
That's why they should never be deployed in order to shut down opposition of powerful forces.
We can't rely on the judiciary.
That's one of the things we've seen throughout today's conversation.
Fauci, will he ever face a proper reckoning?
Will people ever honestly say, man, we were hysterical and hyperbolic at the beginning of that pandemic because we wanted to generate opportunity to regulate and create an opportunity for massive wealth transfer.
Will people ever acknowledge that whatever's going on in those Donald Trump trials is not about justice?
It's the weaponization of the legal system against a political opponent.
We have to acknowledge that.
And when it comes to the case of Alex Jones, even though what he said about Sandy Hook was wrong, do any of us really believe that this is about that and not about shutting down another vocal opponent of the establishment agenda?
I think it is.
But let me know what you think, guys, in the comments and the chat.
We are going to have a brief message from one of our fantastic partners here on Stay Free Russell Brand, and then we'll be right back with the CEO of Rumble, Chris Pavlovsky, to talk about free speech right in Free Speech's home, Rumble HQ.
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Chris Pavlovsky, thank you so much for joining us at your premises.
Thank you for coming here, and happy birthday to you.
Thank you very much.
I can think of nothing I would rather do on my birthday than spend time with my children at Rumble.
Thanks, man, for everything you've facilitated.
You know, when, like, we first started this deal, Rumble Steel then was regarded as a place almost for the alt-right.
Rumble was seen as, like, it was facing a lot of attacks.
Now, I know you're involved in legal battles with YouTube.
I know you've been kicked out of countries like, well, you don't operate in France because of Russia Today.
You've been attacked in Brazil.
You've been attacked in Russia.
China kicked you out.
Do you ever feel like you're involved in more of a war than a business?
You know, that's a really good question because it does feel like a war.
It is a war.
It's a war every day with countries infringing on human rights everywhere around the world.
And it's relentless.
It never stops.
It only gets worse.
It gets bigger.
I didn't ever foresee this, you know, where we're sitting today, the things that we're seeing in society, countries doing what they're doing when it comes to violating, you know, our basic human right.
You got to step back and you got to ask yourself, like, how did you get like civil rights movements and women's rights movements?
And it all stems down to one thing, freedom, freedom of speech.
That's where it comes from.
I see it in a similar way because during the pandemic we saw the normalisation of regulation, authority and control in many ways that we've discussed even over the course of this show and it seems that we're seeing the normalisation of the curtailing and controlling of free speech.
Do we just accept the idea that oh you can't say stuff like that, disinformation, misinformation, it's dangerous and in order to prevent this misinformation having its impact We simply have to shut down and control people's freedom.
Are you ever surprised by how hard they work in order to shut you down?
I know you've faced, like, cyber attacks, you're involved in legal battles.
Does it surprise you how hard it is?
Because it seems like a few years ago, you'd just be an entrepreneur, like, oh, look, this is a fresh-faced entrepreneur.
But now, to a degree, you face the kind of attacks that even the content creators face, right?
Yeah, it's like there's this encroachment.
There's like when they use events to take away more rights from everybody.
They use that as an excuse to to infringe and take more power for them.
And that's what we saw during like COVID and Rumble was, you know, there was nobody except us that was pushing back against that.
We were the tip of the spear and we are the tip of the spear right now.
We're the only company That walks away from countries when they ask us to remove a political opponent or remove a creator that doesn't violate our services.
We're the only one that does that.
Everyone can pound their chest.
No one does it the way we do.
Yes, and what's interesting about it is that it's not a, what do I want to say, unilateral process.
Like some of the countries that Rumble's not in are Russia and China.
Both of those countries are used to leverage international conflict funded by American taxpayers.
What was the reason that you... Can you explain the reasons for each of those territories and why Rumble's not in them?
Yeah, so the genesis started with the first time that we experienced a ban that I'm aware of was out of China and this happened really, really early on and I didn't even know what happened until, you know, we got a notification from somewhere and we learned that China banned us first.
But where it kind of like struck us And where we saw the censorship complex really kind of step in and tell people what they should and shouldn't hear, they think they're smarter than us, is France.
France demanded us to take down Russian news sources.
They demanded us to take down RT and some other channels that were tied to Russia or so-called tied to--
I don't know the actual details of who owns what or where.
But they didn't violate any of our policies at all whatsoever.
So we basically told France to go pound sand.
And we left France entirely on the premise of standing up for freedom of speech.
So that was the first domino to fall that was frightening because it's supposedly
a Western democracy that protects human rights.
Well clearly, you know, they have no care for human rights when they're trying to censor speech from whoever it may be.
They don't think we're smart enough to figure something out.
So at the end of the day, the next thing, the next domino to fall was Brazil.
Brazil asked us to remove a whole bunch of craters, some tied to politics, some not tied to politics, and we did the same thing.
We said, we left the country.
We said, we're not going to be, we're an American company, we're not going to be told by a foreign jurisdiction how to operate in their jurisdiction.
We're an American company that stands behind the principle of freedom of expression.
If you don't have freedom of expression in your country, we have no interest.
That's a basic human right that we really stand behind.
And then it moves to Australia and New Zealand and the New Zealand situation is frightening.
It was a reporter who reported on a whistleblower and apparently this whistleblower provided data
that went contrary to the COVID statistics from the health industry,
the health ministry of New Zealand.
And they whistleblowed the statistics about it that they lied about the statistics during COVID.
And a reporter reported on this.
And they wanted to take down the reporter on Rumble.
This is like akin to the Pentagon Papers in the 70s that has been upheld by the Supreme Court.
It was with the New York Times and the Pentagon Papers.
They reported on a whistleblower.
And you're seeing the same thing happen in New Zealand of all places.
So you got France, you got New Zealand, you got Australia, and you got Brazil.
And the latest one, which I find kind of interesting, is that Russia turned the lights off on us.
because we didn't remove multiple craters that they deemed violated them in some way,
but did not violate our policies.
We did the same thing.
We did not comply, and they turned us off at the IP level in Russia.
So it's been a very interesting world to say the least when you see supposedly Western democracies
that are supposed to stand up for human rights are clearly not standing up for human rights.
You've got to remember, freedom of expression is part of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 19.
This is like an established human right.
And, you know, whether you like the UN or not, that's been established for many, many years.
And it's obviously established as the First Amendment in the Constitution as well.
So, you know, seeing these countries go against, you know, not only American values, but the human rights is crazy to me.
I never thought I would be fighting this type of war, but, you know, I am.
I love it.
I think this is the greatest thing to do.
I think, you know, it gives me real purpose and gives everyone in this company real purpose.
This is something really important, and I don't believe there's anything more important right
now than fighting for this.
In this way, it is the fundamental value, because without it, we cannot assess and communicate
about what our other values might be.
And it's extraordinary to hear that litany, countries that are commonly portrayed as the baddies, China and
Russia.
And then you hear nations like France that have a significant role to play in the establishment,
even, of American independence and the values that we're turning to.
The French Revolution and the subsequent outflow in values informed how this nation was established.
So when you see the same principles undermined in various territories, you have to start wondering--
What is it that we're protecting in the United States of America?
We have to start wondering what's going to happen when these kind of laws and these kind of measures are inevitably deployed in the UK or the United States.
Hate speech laws are being used in Ireland.
There's a new online safety bill in the UK because of course it's always safety that is used to... Safety and the protection of the citizens is what's always used To legitimise these measures.
In Australia, there was the rather audacious gambit of, well, we're going to have to ban platforms in other territories because using VPNs, Australians might be able to access that content.
Really, it seems like the aim is authority and control.
Authority and control.
That's what you can always discern, don't you agree, Chris, underneath the bureaucracy?
Yeah, and it's, you know, they're moving it through legislation now in countries outside of the United States.
They tried doing it here in the United States.
There was a law in New York that the Attorney General Letitia James was pushing with respect to hate speech that platforms need to moderate hate speech or report.
I think it was to report hate speech to a central database.
And we challenged that law and we won.
And obviously, they're now appealing that.
It's just that they're trying to legislate this and thankfully in America you have the First Amendment and justices like the First Amendment and the Constitution is very valued here.
Like you can have a great Constitution in any country in the world.
You can have the Bill of Rights in Canada that you know talks about freedom of speech but if it's not being held up by the justice side of the government then it's meaningless.
And what you're seeing now in Canada in UK and Australia and Ireland are ways that they're
trying to legislate to control speech.
Imagine you're in a society where you can't voice your opinion for something that you so
strongly believe is correct, but the government is telling you it's not correct and you're going
to be punished and go to jail if you say that.
That's a scary place to be.
That's not a place I want to grow up in.
But that's what these laws are aiming to do.
They're giving the power to the government to determine what you can and cannot say.
And that is a place that we have known throughout history is a very bad place to go.
And we need to do everything in the world to stop it.
And I'm proudly trying to fight that.
Yeah, it's a precursor to tyranny and feudalism always, I think.
Absolutely.
Yeah, you're actually, and no one would condemn you for this, Canadian.
Now, what the hell is going on in your country, which was, again, one of the bastions of, like, liberalism and open-mindedness and progressivism, and yet, once again, we're seeing authoritarianism sort of creeping through, like, you know, those new media laws in your country.
Can you imagine Rumble not being in Canada?
Can you see, can you, if we've, We're already in a situation where you can't operate in Brazil, Russia, France.
How do you feel you're going to maintain these kind of territories?
So, you know, it's a personal mission of mine to fight this in Canada and make sure it doesn't happen.
You know, we've had events now in Toronto kind of pushing back against this.
We brought Donald Trump Jr.
over there.
We brought Kimberly there.
We brought Glenn Greenwald over there, speaking their minds on free speech.
And it's a personal mission to fight back against it in Canada, being as a Canadian.
I'm not going to give up over there and let this happen without me giving it a real fight.
But it's not a law yet, and with the politics in Canada, we're hopeful that it won't ever be a law.
But it's pretty crazy.
Canadians were looked at as like a really great country 20 years ago, really nice people.
We had the greatest reputation around the world.
And now our reputation is of a leader that is authoritative, you know, putting people, taking people's bank accounts away and introducing bills that make no sense.
Like if you go through this bill, It raises the hair on your skin.
It is so bad.
It calls for people to report hate speech to the government and be rewarded if they deem that to be hate speech.
So it's encouraging people to rat on you.
It's also, you know, jail time.
Life in prison for certain things.
It's scary.
It's super scary stuff.
But I'm pretty confident that it's not something that, if there is a new incoming government, which I think there'll be an election in the next year, is that it's not something that will fly.
And the polls are shifting big time in Canada right now.
So I'm a little more optimistic that Canada might be able to fight this going forward.
When you talk about the ability to shut down bank accounts, the ability to impose house arrest, the encouraging of citizens to rat on one another, it becomes kind of clear why the demonisation of free speech and the ability to shut down free speech becomes a necessary component of any truly effective centralised model.
You need to be able to stop people communicating because otherwise you can't push through the CBDCs, you can't push through the legitimisation of house arrest.
In a sense, you have to be able to control that.
So, in a way, after starting a platform, I'm sure, with all sorts of motivations, you've found yourself now...
I didn't imagine when we first started working together that it would get this serious this quickly,
with what I faced at the end part of last year.
And I want to take this opportunity, actually, to thank you for the stand you took.
I know that you did that on behalf of your principles because, you know, when it comes to the fact is we have laws around what crime is.
We have process around crime and criminality and we have principles and values around free speech.
Google, YouTube, who I know that you're in legal battles with now because of monopolization.
These organisations have clearly got some kind of pact, either implicit, tacit or explicit, with governments to hand over information.
The conversation we had with Mike Benz was amazing, when Mike Benz talks about how certain entrepreneurs even had their PhDs funded by CIA carve-outs.
There's just a total integration between these spaces.
So I want to thank you for putting your principles where your mouth is when it came to that issue.
That was something I want to personally thank you for.
But did you imagine that it would escalate to this level of intensity this quickly?
No, not at all.
You know, you got to step back.
You just mentioned YouTube and how they cooperate.
The question is, we got banned in Russia and YouTube is still there.
Wow.
So what are they doing with the Russian government that's allowing them to operate in their jurisdiction?
How are they complying with the Russian government?
So those are questions that people need to ask.
And, you know, for a long time they were calling, they wrote every, every media company on the planet wrote about how Rumble was supporting RT because of the France ban.
And they were trying to make us look like, you know, we're connected to Russia.
I've never been there ever in my life.
I have no connection there whatsoever.
And all of a sudden now Russia bans Rumble.
And YouTube's still operating there?
So what is YouTube doing?
Why isn't the media writing about that?
Why don't they care about that?
They seem to care when we stand on the principle of free speech, but they don't care when there's actual cooperation happening.
Not at all.
They only care about trying to knock us down.
You can only assume that YouTube are somehow operating in Russia, whether it's coordinated or not, clearly what they're doing is in accordance with what Russia would have them do, otherwise they'd be out of there.
And that kind of shows you the complexity of all this.
In Russia, they're supporting Russia.
In the UK, they're supporting the UK.
In Canada, they're willing to shut down.
I suppose they would say, oh, we abide within the legal jurisdiction of whatever territory we're in. But it does seem that there is an
overarching set of principles that are being ubiquitously applied and that it always
amounts to the ability to shut down people's power to communicate, to coordinate and to oppose.
Yeah and that's essentially it, is that we're living in a society right now where these big
corporate entities and these governments are calling the shots on what we can and cannot say
and what we can and cannot hear.
And that is a really dangerous place to go.
You don't get civil rights movements.
You don't get women's rights movements.
You don't get any positive movements in society moving in the right direction without this core principle being upheld.
And it's sad that it's, you know, a company only like Rumble that's pushing forward on this, and it ain't the larger ones.
It's nice to see X push a little bit on that, but they haven't taken to the extent that we have, and it would be better if they did.
If we could have a partner that would shut down countries the way we do, then the rest of the world will really start to listen because It can't just be Rumble.
It needs to be much bigger than Rumble.
Let's hope that we can begin to coordinate a movement along those lines and push for that together.
Chris Pavlosky, thanks for joining us in your building on our show.
We'll have a longer conversation later this week.
Thank you, Chris.
Thank you so much for having me.
It's an honour to have you in your own building.
Thank you, Chris.
Tomorrow we are going to be talking about the defeat of the WHO treaty.
We'll be bringing you more about the Trump trial and what the conviction reveals and what the increase in popularity demonstrates.
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