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Aug. 13, 2018 - Roosh V - Daryush Valizadeh
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Roosh Live #17
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All right, welcome to the second attempt for Ruch Live number 17.
A lot of people were having problems.
Like the video, it wouldn't load.
I don't know what's going on.
I think it works now.
I think it works now.
So I'm looking at the chat.
Does it work?
Can you hear me?
Is everything fine?
Okay, I think it's working.
It was laggy and bad, though.
Yeah, that's what happens when you have that Eastern European communist internet.
Okay, it works now.
Okay, good.
Whew.
All right, it works.
So I already sent the links.
Hello?
Who the hell is?
Yeah, who is this?
Why does someone?
How does this person keep getting through?
This is so weird.
What the fuck?
Anyway, okay.
Let me start all over again.
Let me start all over.
Oh, my God.
See, I knew there's just so much that we have to talk about.
Of course, it's going to get messed up.
Okay, so I have like eight things that I have to talk about before I can even take the first call.
Hello.
I don't know who that is and why that keeps happening.
That's so weird.
I'm going to turn this down.
That's kind of scaring me.
Okay.
That is really strange.
Something's going on, guys.
Something weird is happening.
I don't know.
This girl keeps getting through to my call and saying hello, but I'm not clicking anything.
It doesn't make sense.
I'm being hacked.
Okay, let's start with the first thing.
If you missed it, the first bit of news is not Alex Jones, otherwise known as the man who can't be named.
I don't want to get shut down.
I don't know.
I kind of got shut down.
No, was that a YouTube shutdown?
No, I don't think it was.
Okay, yeah, that caller keeps getting through.
That is going to be very annoying.
I mute.
That's fucking weird, guys.
Anyway, okay, I'm stressed out now.
Let's first go over the first, let's go over the first thing, and that is that I've been denounced by the Anti-Defamation League.
And this is related, I believe, to the Alex Jones shutdown.
And the Anti-Defamation League, in an article, big article titled When Women Are the Enemy, the Intersection of Misogyny and White Supremacy.
The intersection.
You know what they're trying to do, right?
They're trying to make me the godfather of the white supremacist movement.
And I don't want to read this whole thing.
I'm just going to quickly give you what the overview is.
I'm going to read it in my most cosmopolitan voice.
Every day, as virulent white supremacists make their hatred known, we immediately and rightly call them extremists.
We have not been nearly as unequivocal in our condemnation when it comes to men who express violent anger toward and loathing for women.
In fact, these groups warrant a side-by-side examination.
There is a robust symbiosis between misogyny and white supremacy.
The two ideologies are powerfully intertwined.
While not all misogynists are racist and not every white supremacist is a misogynist, a deep-seated loathing of women acts as a connective tissue between many white supremacists, especially those in the alt-right and their lesser-known brothers in hate, like incels, MRAs, and PUAs.
So that was laying the groundwork.
That was laying the groundwork for the big attack that's coming.
Are you ready?
Here it is.
Meanwhile, PUAs are longtime players in the misogynist manosphere, and their putative leader, Roosh V, has dedicated himself to decrying feminism, belittling women, and teaching men how to quote-unquote date, or more accurately, how to be the most effective sexual predator you can be.
Incels and PUAs believe that date rape is not only defensible, but is a skill that can and should be taught.
The underlying belief that women should be sexually available to men at all times for any reason without argument is what presumably led Rush V to argue for the legalization of rape.
Roose V has defended violent incel tendencies, posting this the day after Alex Manassian's attack in Toronto.
And I said, God, that actually hurts.
Why won't it mute you?
There we go.
So I wrote, Alex Manassian wouldn't have killed people with a van if the media had not inoculated him and other lonely men against effective game teachers like myself.
Sleeping with only two or three Toronto Tinder sluts would have been enough to stop his urge to kill.
Am I right?
Am I right?
I mean, giving that guy a bone, he wouldn't have killed.
He would have been like, oh, wait for my six-month sex experience instead of getting nothing.
So yeah, guys, I'm apparently the godfather of white supremacy.
I have internalized white supremacy in my bones due to my hatred of women.
So says the Anti-Defamation League.
You know, they're because they're trying, because they got the alt-right.
The all-right's dead, the organized part of it.
And today's Unite the Right 2 rally is going to show that.
The alt-right doesn't have any organizing capability anymore.
Their ideas will go on, but their organizing ability is dead.
The alt-right is now a term that the left has co-opted and owned in order to further their agenda, right?
So now they need to drag more people into that horrible alt-right term, and they're trying to drag me into it, but they're going to have a hard time because I'm not even white.
You know, good luck.
A lot of people in the alt-right don't like me.
They call me some very offensive names.
Okay.
So you're probably hearing a bell, and I have to tell you what that bell is for because it's right in front of me and I accidentally hit it.
So I'm introducing a bell of autism today.
So if you call in and you're not getting to the point and you're dragging things on and my viewership is getting bored of you, the bell gets rung.
And let me show you this bell.
So let's hear how the bell of autism sounds.
Okay.
So that's, if you hear that bell, if you hear a ring, that means that people online do not like you.
They don't like what you're saying.
And I have calculated that my super chat donations are decreasing at a very dangerous rate.
And if I don't get super chat, I don't get money.
And if I don't get money, Arnold over there doesn't get food.
And if Arnold doesn't get food, he dies.
So therefore, if you're a boring caller, Arnold may die.
So when you hear that bell of autism, you better, you better get, get exciting quick.
You better get to the point.
Okay.
You don't need to drone on.
This isn't caller live.
This is Ruch Live.
I'm the star, son.
Okay, good.
Okay, Bell of Autism.
So what else we got going on?
Let's talk about Alex Jones.
Alex Jones got shut the F down.
Oh, that was a shutdown.
That was spectacular.
That was like art, man.
The way they shut him down within 24 hours.
So let's go over the companies that shut him down.
The biggest four companies: Facebook, Apple, Google, Spotify.
That's like an acronym, right?
Facebook, Apple, Google, Spotify.
They shut his ass down.
Man, that was stunning.
Their power, their coordination.
Man, he was, and what did he do?
Okay, now I don't have anything against Alex Jones.
I like him.
And the funny thing is, he's only like five years older than me.
We're both Generation X, like the somewhat early stages of it.
So, you know, his work is all about 1776 will rise again.
The Patriots will rise again.
I mean, that's, I don't want to say that's Civil War talk, but that's fighting talk, right?
And then he gets shut down in a way that he knew.
And who does he blame?
China.
And he's still going off about it.
Since for one week, he's going off about China.
He's like, this is communist China's attempt to take over.
China?
And that narrative is not sticking.
No one thinks it's China.
You know, we have communists in the United States and they're not Chinese.
They are European style socialists.
They're cosmopolitans.
They're not Chinese.
Uh-uh.
I think we know who they are.
And the same people who hate Jones hates me.
And I'm next.
So everyone in the alt, well, not alt-right, but the dissident right conservatives are scared shitless now.
Like, oh, no, they're coming after me next.
Do you know how it's like?
It's like this.
Do you remember in high school or middle school, you took a speech class and then the new speech, today is the day of the new speech.
Any volunteers?
The teacher asks, no one goes up.
No one wants to go first.
And then you know the teacher is going to call on someone and you're trying to put your head down.
Please don't call on me.
Please don't call on me.
But then when you get called, you put on this false confidence.
Like, yeah, I can do this.
And you go up, you walk into the front of the classroom, and then you hope that nothing bad, bad happens.
That's how it feels for people who know that they're coming next.
That that chopping block, you're about to get your head on that.
My head's going to be on there soon.
My speech is ready to go.
I don't want to speak in front of this classroom.
I'm nervous, but it's coming.
So some people Think a good idea is, you know what?
If I can just prove I'm not a racist, they're not going to come after me.
Do you know who I am talking about?
Gavin McInnes.
I've lost count how many times he said he's not all right.
He's not a racist.
I lost count how many times he showed how diverse the Proud Boys, his street gang group is.
I've lost count.
And guess who got banned on Twitter?
Him and every Proud Boy account.
All of them.
All of them.
The man who couldn't stop telling people how he is inclusive and not a racist got banned.
And now people on the right are getting really nervous.
They're like, oh shit, what they don't believe I'm not racist.
They're going to ban me from Twitter.
I got to do something else.
So what do they do?
What's the next step?
To give money to your enemy.
What am I talking about?
I'm going to tell you.
Let me load this up.
Okay, so there is, do you remember that woman that got killed by a car, supposedly, at the first Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville?
Her name was Heather Heyer.
She was a healthy, weighted, big-boned woman who got killed.
And that's sad.
You know, I don't want anyone to die.
So we have Jeff Gissy.
He's an alt-light money man.
He said, Jess donated $8.12 to the Heather Heyer Scholarship Foundation as part of the 812 campaign.
Consider the same.
And he shows a screenshot of his $8.12 donation.
Why?
$8.12?
Because the Unite the Right rally is on 812.
And he wants to show he's not a racist.
I believe you, Jeff.
And Cassandra Fairbanks, she's another alt-light conservative person.
She said, donated to the Heather Heyer Foundation in opposition to the rally that's taking place in my city this weekend, Washington, D.C. We're urging everyone to do the same by donating $8.12 or more here.
HeatherHireFoundation.com.
Guess what, guys?
That's not going to keep your account safe.
I've met both Jeff and Cassandra.
They're nice enough people.
I have nothing against them.
But donating money to your enemies is not going to help you.
They hate you.
They hate your guts.
You are the other.
You're not in their club.
You can donate $812,000.
Not going to matter.
they're going to get you.
If anything, you accelerate your demise when you give them money for two reasons.
One, you're giving them the money to attack you with.
And the second is you display weakness and fear.
You're scared.
Donating money to your enemy hints to them that you are scared.
And they sense that blood in the water.
and they're going to get you next.
I ain't donating any money to anybody.
You got to donate money to me so Arnold can eat.
Arnold has a healthy appetite.
And speaking of shutting it down, I was shut down on Coinbase.
This is a cryptocurrency market.
You can buy Bitcoin and Litecoin.
They shut me down.
They won't say why.
They won't let me write to them.
Is it related to my political opinions?
Probably.
And last bit of news: something that I thought was really funny is happening in our favorite country, the UK.
And in the UK, this news just hit.
I'm just going to read the headline for you: male, pale, and stale university professors to be given reverse mentors.
And you're thinking, what is that?
White male professors in the UK are being given black female handlers that to so they do not cross the line.
They're being assigned handlers.
White people in universities, white men, are being assigned a commissar, like in the Soviet Union, to politically educate them.
I don't feel any sympathy for these white professors because they have been at the forefront of pushing social justice, but you know what comes next, right?
White men in corporations will be assigned a female Muslim, female black, female Asian handler to make sure his toxic masculinity is kept in check to keep his white privilege in check.
And the funny, okay, let me read you a little section.
What is understood about unconscious bias is that we have all got it, but the more you learn about it and become conscious of it, the more you can act.
While it is well known and obvious that women and minority groups suffer setbacks to their career progression, no one really understands why.
It's not as if there is any overt prejudice, it is something to do with the way the system is or the way it has evolved.
And we needed to find out why.
So here is your handler, Letitia, who has been a professor for one year, and she's going to tell you what to do, you cis male scum.
That is funny, huh?
And what are the white men in this university going to do?
They're going to take it.
They're going to take it.
They're not going to say anything.
And I don't give a shit.
Okay.
But that is crazy stuff, huh?
Crazy.
Your first day of your corporate work career, you're going to be assigned a fat, tatted up, green-haired handler to educate you on the correct way to conduct yourself in this corporation.
And if you don't listen to her, you're fired.
Take that to the next job.
you can't get another job.
Oh, man, a lot of stuff's going on.
A lot of stuff.
It's like the world is getting crazy, guys.
People ask me, what can we do?
Alex Jones got shut down.
What can we do?
Listen, if they can shut down Alex Jones, he has a multi-million dollar company.
He has dozens of employees.
If they can shut him down and get away with it, which they are getting away with it, no one's safe.
No one's safe.
What can you do?
Well, if someone with more power than you who has the ability to stop this doesn't, and you can't stop it yourself, you have to think like a guerrilla fighter and hide.
Hide until you have an advantage that you can act on.
But we have no advantages right now.
They can shut this YouTube down, this channel down with a click, man.
How hard is that?
And I get shut down.
There'll be six hours of people on Twitter saying that's not fair.
And then what?
Nothing.
They can seize domains now.
It's sad, but let's just say that it's going to get worse.
It's going to get worse.
You know, we're about to be called next in line for the shutdown.
And there's only so much you can do.
Yeah, I can back up things.
I can register new domain names, but if they want you off, you're off.
Andrew England, he had his domain seized Daily Stormer, and he has had to do a lot of work.
I think he's at a new domain now.
I don't know if he kept his audience or not.
But they will pound you to the ground so much that you lose the influence that you had.
And Alex Jones, they're saying, oh, well, it hasn't hurt him because he has that app.
They're going to get his app out of there too.
They're going to, when they want you to be destroyed, they're going to do it.
Do you have an army?
Do you have power in the higher ups?
You got nothing.
Donald Trump, where are you, buddy?
Where are you?
Because guys like Alex Jones helped you win.
But even if the government gets involved, even if Donald Trump gets involved today, you know how slow that is?
How much time that takes for the government to get some regulations out there?
Years.
We don't have years.
We have weeks.
So enjoy this live stream right now.
Enjoy it.
Don't expect it to be here next week.
Enjoy it in hell.
You know, we take it one step at a time.
Roosh, you're making me depressed.
Yeah, life is depressing.
Okay, now before I take calls, I know these callers are like, where is everybody?
Or where is Roosh?
How come he hasn't taken calls?
I want to say that my book, my new book game, is finished.
The audio book, 13 hours long, the text, 140 words, 140,000 words long, is complete.
It is in the hands of reviewers now.
And the book is slated to be released on around September 14.
So get ready for that.
And by the way, thank you for those who bought A Deadbat in Paraguay the last time I did the promotion on the live stream.
From YouTube, about 60 of you bought it.
So that was pretty nice.
That's like my food income for the month, which was cool.
So if you did buy that book, please send me an email.
Let me know what you think.
Ruch at Rushvy.com.
I like to hear thoughts about my older work.
Okay, so now, like I said earlier, we have the bell of autism.
If you hit callers, if you hear this bell, that means you got to spicing it up real fast because I'm losing viewers in super chats.
Second thing is this: a couple, some callers have figured out how to game the call-in system because I answer calls and how long someone has been holding.
Some guys know exactly when to call, so I will now answer calls randomly.
I will see how many calls there are holding, then use a random number generator to pick the next caller.
Is that fair?
I don't know, but life isn't fair.
And we can't keep having the same guys calling because they know when to call.
Okay, are we ready for the first?
Oh, let's just go over the few super chats we got so far.
Daniel Charney donated $5.
He said, Roosh, when are you going on tour with System of a Down?
That's an Armenian band.
And also, how do you meet women in a new town with no connections without degenerate dating apps?
Funnily enough, System of a Down is a very liberal group.
If you go into the lead singer and his ideas, he is SJW, which is sad.
So I don't think I'll be going on tour with him.
Second thing, well, have you, I wrote a book called Day Bang.
This is how to meet women during the day, an entire book on solving the exact problem that you have right now.
So go buy that.
MindHacks donates $10.
He says, Hey, Roosh, how is the Trad Thought War coming along?
And would you consider doing another marathon stream like the first two?
Thanks.
I'm not fighting anyone right now.
The Trad Thoughts, they're still, you know, I think attacking them helps them because they thrive on what?
Attention.
More attention you give them, the better that they do.
Was I the only one who saw the newest photo release by Lauren Southern of her and Brittany Pettibone hiking through the woods with extra leg showing?
It was a lot of leg.
I mean, I don't, when I go hiking, I usually cover up the legs because all the bugs and the branches will scratch them up.
But maybe they went through an easy hiking trail.
Okay, MGTOW mentor donated $5.
He said, what are the top three Eastern European cities for an Indian man in his mid-40s who grew up in the U.S.?
I don't know.
I'm not Indian.
But since you're older, unfortunately, Poland is probably out.
Indian men usually do well there.
I would say Ukraine is, I would go there first.
Try the three biggest cities there.
Filter guy donating $5.
Give Arnold a raw diet.
We'll do.
All right, that was a long intro, but again, there's a lot of stuff going on, guys.
Okay, let me get my random number generator.
Of course, I close the window.
Okay, who will be the lucky caller?
So in the past, I would pick up the phone and it would be the patient man.
He's been patient.
But now when you hear a man's voice, he's lucky.
So now we're going to get a different breed of caller.
We're going to get the lucky man.
Okay.
Here we go.
Generate number.
Caller number four.
Let's get caller number four.
One, two, three, four.
Hello, caller.
You're now live.
Hello.
Yes.
Hey.
Is this Gosh?
Hello?
Oh, he's gone.
I think it was gosh, guys.
It was, but he's gone.
He actually hung up.
Man.
Wow.
He was, gosh, was the first caller?
But he's gone.
Whew, this is weird, man.
It's like a glitch in the Matrix.
And he sounded like he was crying.
Did you hear that?
He was like, hey.
I think he was crying.
He was starting.
He started crying while he was on hold.
That's how much in pain he is.
Oh, oh, well.
Okay, let's get to the next lucky caller.
Get my random number generator.
This is kind of fun.
Okay, caller number five.
Let's go to him.
Okay, here he is.
Hello, caller.
You're now live.
Hey, Roosh.
Hello.
How's it going?
So I wanted to talk about the anti-marriage advice that's common in the Red Pill community, mainly MGTOW, but also, you know, like a game.
Okay.
Can you first share where you are calling from?
Yeah, I'm calling from the Western U.S.
Okay.
So what do you want to?
So you are concerned about anti-marriage advice and you are pro-marriage or anti?
No, I'm not either.
I totally agree with the bad things they're saying, but I just want to ask about the negative sides that are not being taken in consideration.
Such as?
So let me, I'm just going to tell a quick, quick story.
So my uncle was basically an international playboy before it was a thing.
He went to a, he was too young to go to World War II, joined the army, went to Japan, went to a great law school, became an international lawyer.
He got rich, had a mansion in Long Island.
He never married.
He had women when he was, he had women.
He was definitely straight.
He had women around, but he never settled down.
He was, that's like the model bachelor.
Like he was rich, single.
And then in his 80s, it came out that he was actually flat broke.
He'd lost all his money in some type of made-off investment scam.
He got taken.
So luckily, I'm in a big family.
Lots of cousins came together and helped him out in his final days.
But he was like in a shitty VA hospital, you know, being treated like shit.
And, you know, he'd lost his basically lost his mental faculties.
So I guess what I'm sort of asking, like all the points against marriage and settling and really just settling down in general, not marriage, but just settling down and having a family.
But like no one, I don't see anyone talking about the eventual effects of what that advice gets you, which is that you are going to lose your mental faculties.
It's very likely that you will are going to decrease and eventually you're not going to be able to care for yourself.
And who are most men these days?
The bell of autism has been been rung.
So you got to get to your main point now immediately because your story is nice.
Okay, what is your point?
So I'm just saying, like all the guys that are saying fuck it and enjoy the decline.
Okay.
Like they're not get married, but they're not taking the consequences of that life choice into account.
Like no one's talking about what the fuck you're going to do if you stay single, you never get married.
What happens when you're by yourself and you start to, you know, you start to, your mental faculties start to fall apart.
No one's around to help you.
Okay.
Is there anything else?
No, that's it.
Okay, thank you, caller.
And the first caller gets the bell of autism rung.
Oh my God, that was good.
The bell of autism.
He didn't even have a question.
He got two dings.
Wow, let's see if anyone can match double ding.
Okay, let's get my random number generator.
Caller number one.
Oh, so this guy has been holding for the longest.
Hello, caller.
You're now live.
Hello.
Yes.
Yeah, hi.
Who's this?
A U.S. caller.
You sound like I know you.
Anyways, you just got the bell.
We know you are the autiste.
Just for ringing, just for having that, you rang it.
You better get to your point soon, son.
That bell is about to be rung again.
Hurry up.
I got to think it.
Well, you're getting a lot of things.
I think I broke the bell.
You broke the bell of autism.
I don't know.
Okay, come on.
Hurry up, man.
So, well, a lot of things have happened.
Just one thing.
Well, I lost my rigidity.
Oh.
Congratulations.
I take full credit.
That's like that crane caller keeps getting in.
Anyway.
Maybe he's the one who messed up the original stream.
Yeah, it's some kind of, man, this is some weird.
This is a weird day.
But anyway, so you had, you had sex.
Yeah.
And how was it?
Some reason why I didn't enjoy it, though.
That's okay.
But so was she, was she conscious?
I mean, yeah.
Okay, so she knew what was going on and she liked it.
Well, she didn't like it towards the end.
Well, I actually wasn't enjoying it.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, so let's just pretend that you said she liked it the entire way.
Okay.
You almost believe me.
Okay, so get to your point, Belle.
Another bell.
Ding.
Go.
Come on.
I can't let you talk all day.
Well, I don't know why.
I mean, I just didn't enjoy it.
I mean, did you ever have that experience?
Like, the first time you have sex, it's not going to be that great, man.
I mean, you're so concerned over whether you're in the right hole or not.
Okay, so I think that's all I got for you today, man.
Let's talk maybe next week.
Okay, I had to let him go.
No, I can't deal with that anymore.
I can't deal with that.
You don't know what you want to say.
No, I'm sorry.
Once the bell of autism is rung, my heart turns cold.
It does.
I'm sorry.
Okay, next.
Let's do the next caller.
Okay, we got eight callers on hold.
Random number generator is.
How does that person keep getting in?
It's so weird.
I think there's some kind of like hack, you know?
So, someone from Skype is calling in and it goes directly, doesn't mute them.
That is very strange.
Okay, caller number five: one, two, three, four, five.
That is kind of bothering me.
How do you, how the hell do you?
So, there's a way to hack that.
See, see, here it is again.
What is that?
How do you ban someone?
so yeah someone with a lot of time on on their hands is calling in constantly all right let's do caller number five i'll just keep an eye on it i'm muted okay i'll press star six it this lets you unmute it thank Thank you.
What?
Hello?
Okay, so I think there's a way to unmute yourself.
So, the only way I can, let me let me think.
Okay, I think I know how to fix it.
Hold on.
one second.
I have to do some testing at some point.
Anyway, okay.
One, two, three, four.
Let's take this caller.
Hello, caller.
You're now live.
Hi, Rude.
Yes.
How are you going?
Doing good.
That's really annoying.
Yeah, it is.
I'm a caller from the UK.
I'm originally Australian.
Okay.
I just had two quick questions for you.
The first one is: have you ever heard of Patrice O'Neill?
And what are your thoughts on his philosophies when it comes to actually?
I've been following him for quite a while.
I've watched a lot of his fucking kids, dude.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
All right, let me think.
I have to think.
I have to use my mind to think these prank callers, they figure out a way to unmute themselves.
Let me see.
Okay, I think I figured it out.
I think I figured it out.
I think I did.
All right, let's see.
Caller, are you still there?
Caller.
Caller?
Oh, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Caller?
Hello?
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay, I think I figured it out.
Let's see if this happens again.
So you're talking about Patrice O'Neill.
Yeah.
Okay.
So yeah, I think he was one of the first red pill guys.
I believe truly red pill as the PUA stuff was starting to come up.
And he got all of his red pills from dating black women.
And at first you would think, well, how does that apply to me?
I'm not dating, say, black women in the 1980s.
But what we had is that the way that black women acted was first, and then white women started to act in that same way, where they were acting in an aggressive way, a masculine way, dating around more, losing some of their traditional values.
So he was one of the first to say a lot of what we now know about how women pick the.
how women pick the men that they want.
So, I mean, if you have time and you can go through all the episodes of the Black Phillips show, I think it would be a good move because, I mean, you only need to watch maybe the first six or seven of them until they start to repeat a lot of the main, the main concepts.
The funny thing is, I actually was inspired to do this live stream and take calls because of that show.
So I think his philosophy is very relevant to women and how they are today in regards to he was more so not so much concerned with the notch count of a girl.
He was more so just sort of disregarding of all that and how to manage a woman with all that aside.
So I just wanted to know, and it kind of leads on to my next question, which was, from what I gather from your material, is a woman's notch count does count, but how much is too much?
And where do you sort of weigh it up against the other qualities of the woman that you're seeing to consider her as a potential wife and the mother of your children?
Okay, the one thing I don't really, I didn't really agree on what Patrice O'Neill was saying is that you basically have to accept that she's currently sleeping with other men and get over that.
I mean, this is like one step away from being some kind of, you know, cuck.
I mean, I'm not saying he is, but for he thought that to spit the best game, you have to not care whether she's sleeping with other men.
So I couldn't agree with that.
And I mean, if you want, if you see the kind of women that he dated, he wasn't interested in marriage and creating a family.
So if you want to be the biggest pimp, yeah, that move may actually help you.
But if you want to create a family, I think it is unacceptable.
So the second thing is how many notches is too much above zero.
I mean, ideally, you want it to be zero, but we have to accept that we live in the modern age and you're probably not going to find that unless you have embedded yourself in some religious community.
So, you know, one thing that makes this question even harder to solve is you're never going to really know how many girls, I mean, how many guys a girl has been with.
She's going to tell you, it's not going to be honest.
I mean, because that is the one thing that women out of any other piece of information has so much self-interest in concealing, concealing from everybody.
It's one of the only things that you may never know, unless even if you were raised in the same village as her and there was only 50 people, but then she took a one-week trip to some kind of beach, you're just not going to know.
So you can ask and you can think your girl is the most honest thing in the world.
She is Mother Teresa, but you're not going to know anyway.
But ideally, the lower, the better.
And you'll feel this by how, well, if you met her, how long did it take for her to sleep with you?
If it was the first or second date, well, you're not the first dude that she's done that with.
If it's the third date, you know, that's still, I mean, if she, if it took like three or four months, then okay, her notch counts probably under five.
But otherwise, you have to assume it's high.
There was, there was a, I think I told this story when there was a girl who slept with me on the first date and said I was the second guy ever.
I mean, come on, man.
You know, of course, you want to believe it.
You want to believe, but it's hard for a girl to sleep with a new man.
It's tough.
And the only way it's easy is if you are used to it.
Right.
So I guess what you're saying is unless she's a virgin, there's really no guarantee.
But there's another country.
So in the caucuses, Armenia and Georgia and Azerbaijan, there is vaginal reconstruction surgery.
So they can, they're not a virgin.
They can do a surgery to where another doctor would certify that she is a virgin and she would tell her future husband that she is, that she is a virgin too.
So even if she proclaims she is a virgin and there's blood on your matrimonial bed the first night you sleep with her, that's still not a guarantee.
You're never going to know.
Now, of course, there is some virgins out there.
Every girl has to be a virgin at some point before she sleeps with the man, but you're never going to know 100%, unlike, say, the paternity of your kid, where we have a scientific test, but there's no test to know if a girl really is a virgin, if she's never had a penis inside her.
Right.
So I guess then in all cases, you're shooting in the dark, so to speak.
Right.
You can feel it out.
You can think, well, she seems a little bit socially awkward.
There's no way she can bang a lot of dudes.
And she loves me.
I think what's most important is that one, she's not an obvious slut.
She's not obviously like just banging around.
And these girls are, it's clear when this is the case.
What's most important is that she feels that you are the best that she can get, that she is really head over heels for you because you're the best option, even though she can sleep with all these other men, but you're the best currently.
Of course, that can change.
But if you're just another one of the dudes that she can bang, I don't have a lot of hope that that relationship will go all the way.
Well, it's just, it's funny you say that being the best option that she can get.
That changes with age as well.
As they get closer to 30 and as they in their early 30s, they're even more desperate and their options dwindle, whereas a man's options expand.
So I guess it's her options are going to diminish anyway with time.
So she could have been a major slut in her earlier years.
And yeah, sorry.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I know any way you think of any way you think of it, they have the advantage anyway, whether she's young, old, whether the best option or not, they have the advantage over you.
And you cannot guarantee that any relationship will succeed.
You can minimize the risk by avoiding these, you know, girls who like to party and have fun and who see you as a comparable man to the other men she has dated.
But I mean, you can use logic as much as you want, but you're not going to really find that ironclad situation where it's safe for you to make that big commitment.
Sure.
Okay.
You answered my questions.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the thanks for the call.
Thank you very much.
Bye-bye.
This is something new.
There is music.
And okay, I'll mute that for now.
You know, as men, especially men who have avoided catastrophes in life or difficulties in life, we want a guarantee.
We want if I sign that.
Sign on the dotted line for this automobile that it's going to drive off the lot, not be a lemon.
We want to buy a, a house, with some kind of guarantee that the foundation is not cracked or the plumbing is broken.
We want a woman to, you know, not buy a woman, but marry a woman with some kind of guarantee that she is who she says she is, but she's not.
If it came out of her mouth, it it can't be true.
It can't.
It can't be true because she has too much incentive to lie, to portray herself as someone that she's not.
So you're going to have to use your own experience, your own psychological knowledge and when you get my new book game coming out next month you'll have a lot of that to kind of guess, you know, to interpret.
It's like reading the, reading the stars, astrology almost you kind of have to guess.
There's no guarantee.
I can meet your girl and get a feeling, but I won't know for sure either.
Let's do the next caller.
Get my random number generator.
Who's the lucky caller?
Caller number three.
Okay hello caller, you're now live.
Yes hi, can you hear me?
Yes, I can.
Hey Ruch, good morning uh, thanks for taking my call.
Uh, my name is Carlos.
I'm calling from the West Coast here in the United States.
Okay, and um, I actually just recently discovered your work through Rollo Tomasi.
Uh, the Rational MALE that is, and i'm I know that you know that he actually references your work a lot on your book and um, you wrote an article uh a while ago that uh was called the future of game that I think you really just just you can get your netted on the head there and he uses that article a lot too, with a lot of the references from the red pill, and it's very depressing.
And I wanted to ask you uh real quick here I don't want to get the autism bell ring on me.
Uh, you know what's a guy like like myself, 30 years old, who obviously um is going after the 20 year old girls because I, there's no way in hell i'm going to go after the girls my age, that's too much baggage and well, we all know that from a red pill perspective.
But what's a guy like me who's 30 years old and, and right now, that doesn't really have any social media besides twitter and Linkedin.
Uh, don't have Instagram, I don't have Facebook, I don't have no Snapchat, And I know you need that nowadays to get this young girl game.
So I wanted to just kind of pick your brain and maybe elaborate that a little bit more.
And again, thank you.
Thank you for taking my call.
Okay, how can a 30-year-old man in the U.S. go after the most desired cohort cohort of women in the world currently?
At the end of the day, yeah, it helps if you have a popular Instagram, but is your value high?
You know, can you turn these women on and give them what they want, whether it's good looks, whether it's fun, whether it's status?
I mean, what do you have to offer them?
If you're just a normal guy and there's nothing wrong with that, then you just approach, approach, approach.
You play the numbers game, the mathematical game, and do a set amount of approaches every day on women that you find to be good looking.
You're not going to get the eights that are 20, the nines, the 10s.
But can you get a seven by being in the right place at the right time?
Yes.
So, I mean, yeah, I know you want the hotties, but you got to learn to walk first.
So, I mean, don't be too stiff and say, I'm never dating a 30-year-old.
I mean, I don't want to either, but you may have to compromise to build your game up, to know what you're doing.
So maybe consider a 25-year-old.
I mean, yeah, we all, if every guy wants to bang a 20-year-old, then the market and if you use real estate as an example is overheated.
So, I mean, yeah, I get it.
Every man wants a 10.
Every man does.
Every man does.
I do too.
Arnold does too.
But not every man can get it because they are in limited supply.
The demand for 10s is higher than the supply of 10s.
So unless you're a 10, you're the male analogous to a 10, then what do you expect?
I mean, we just have to, you can't buy a car with the sack of vegetables.
And we are all just a sack of vegetables to these girls who are getting so much attention.
So you got to change that sack of potatoes into something and into gold.
And this takes time, but you're going to have to, you know, lower your standards.
I mean, why is your standards high?
I mean, have you, are you accustomed to dating really good-looking girls?
No, it's just that after reading the rational male and learning sexual market value, I've learned that men don't peak till they're 35, 38.
And I'm only 30 years old.
Don't believe that shit.
Every man is different.
Well, every man.
I don't believe in that.
I mean, can I explain it?
Because every man peaks at his own age.
Not every man peaks at 35.
It's just a number.
Some men peak at 18 when they're a jock in, you know, high school.
Some men peak at 60.
Hold on, let me finish.
Some men peak at 60 when they become famous and millionaire.
You know, like me, I peaked maybe when I was a little bit early, 33.
That's when my energy was actually highest.
So don't do the book is not you.
The book is just a guy.
Just take a little bit of it, but it's not going to fit your life perfectly.
And you are probably a logically minded man.
You want to think your way out of things or into things.
Yeah, some men peak at 35, but most men don't.
So if you're using a book to guide your future and you read this book and say, oh, I'm going to peak at 35 because the book said so.
Did the book interview you?
Does the book know you?
Does the book know what your strengths and weaknesses are?
It doesn't.
So it's possible you already did peak.
I don't know.
Or maybe you won't peak until you're 50.
But really, to find out what your value is, what kind of girl can you get today?
That is your value.
Is it going up compared to last year or going down?
And unless you put yourself out there and have experience, you don't sound like the guy that's really out there.
You don't sound like you did approaches and are doing the work.
You read a book and then got entitled.
Damn.
I didn't know you want to put it like that, but I appreciate your honesty.
See, don't read books that make you think that your shit doesn't smell.
Okay.
You got to put the work.
How many approaches have you done in the past three months?
Not much.
Zero.
So you have to go out a lot.
Okay.
So start going.
It's not a sense of entitlement, though, Rush.
I mean, it is a relationship.
It is.
Dude, if you are listening, hold on.
You are 30.
You got no game, no game.
And you want the most desired female 20-year-old hotties.
If that's not entitlement, buddy, what is?
Right, right, right.
Okay, you got me.
So start small.
You got me.
Start putting in the work.
You are a man in an age of the female when the females get all the benefits.
So you have to work.
When you work, you'll start getting stuff and then you can raise your standards.
But until then, you're just a dog.
You know, you're just a piece of shit just like everybody else.
So now you got to go prove to yourself that, hey, I'm worth it.
You know, you got to start.
Don't start with 20-year-old girls.
Start with 26-year-olds.
Okay.
Well, you just have too much baggage, man.
That's all.
But I appreciate your, I really do appreciate your blunt honesty.
That was kind of like a reality check.
So thank you, Lucia.
Sure thing, man.
All right.
Bye, man.
Okay.
The conference has been unlocked.
Okay, so I'm still testing out how this conference thing works because I locked the conference, which means no one can get in.
But let's see if this, like, you know, haters call again.
Okay, here we go.
So I'll keep an eye on that.
All right, we got a couple super chats.
MGTOW mentor donate $5.
He said, in terms of passion and willingness to please, which women are better in bed, Brazilian or Eastern European?
And which are better to be in a relationship with?
Well, the first is very easy to answer.
And Brazilian women in bed are dynamite.
But there's only one problem.
Sometimes in the middle of your lovemaking, they put a finger in your butt.
So if you don't mind that surprise, I mean, they are dirty.
They're dirty girls because of all that passion they have from living in such a hot temperature.
In terms of long term, that depends on you.
I don't know.
You know, it depends.
Some men, they do better with the Brazilian.
Some men do better with the Eastern European.
But just know that Eastern European are more logical, so they can be more diabolical.
You know, they're very careful.
They can manipulate better than anyone.
Some men with no experience with Eastern European women go to Ukraine, to Russia.
They get eaten alive.
And by eaten alive, I don't mean they steal all their money, but they just get their heart broken.
They get used, abused for dinners and things like that.
Okay, I think I figured out how to solve that little collar hack.
Okay.
So, we also have a super chat from San Samuel Edvardson.
He donated Norwegian 50, which I think is $10.
He said, Glad to see you live so frequently.
Roosh, do you think you'll be on the public square with JF anytime soon in the future?
Would be interesting.
Yeah, JF does his own live streams.
I mean, if he wants to invite me and I'm free, that's fine.
I'm a little bit busy right now, but I don't have anything against him, and he seems to be fair, so I don't have a problem with that.
Guillermo Fuentes, he donated $5.
He said, Is there more than three Return of Kings podcast episodes?
That's all I see on the website.
If so, where can I find them?
Yeah, that was a project that started, but we didn't keep it, keep it going.
I think there was only two or three.
But you can go to my Kingmaker podcast, there's way more than three.
Okay, okay, five.
So, yeah, this today has been so weird.
The stream didn't start right.
The callers are, you know, playing around these dang 4chan kitties.
So, I don't know, it's a weird day.
But let's see now.
Let's go to the next caller.
Let me get my random number generator.
Didn't have to ring the autism bell yet in the past 20 minutes.
Okay, random number.
Okay, we're going to caller number five.
Got to feel bad for the first caller.
He's been on hold for a while.
Maybe I'll go to him just as a niceness since I'm a nice guy.
Hello, caller.
You're now live.
Hello.
You have to mute your video.
Okay, video is muted.
Okay, what is going on?
And where are you calling from?
I'm calling from Ontario, Canada.
This is RVF member Scotian.
Scotian.
Oh, man.
This guy.
So this guy, he's on RVF.
I have through mutual friends.
I've heard much about him.
He's been on the forum for years and years.
One of the most respected members there who specializes in South American women.
Yes.
Great.
And that's what I call up to talk about.
Just a second here.
My phone is kind of dying, so I'm going to plug it in.
But yeah, just touching on what the last caller was talking about.
When you kind of schooled him on having unrealistic expectations and a bit of a sense of entitlement, is yeah, it's something that I've run into a little bit meeting four members in South America in Colombia who they come down with you know these expectations of how it's going to be.
They're going to be you know dating and hooking up with these beautiful Colombian women.
And of course, they're relying on a lot of internet dating sites.
And especially in Medellin, the local women are notoriously claky and hard to get.
And yeah, a lot of these guys come down and then they leave after a week or two empty-handed.
And, you know, I kind of feel bad for them.
But at the same time, it's like, what did you expect, you know, coming down here and not speaking Spanish, not knowing much about the culture and everything.
And just, yeah, thinking that they're going to meet all these hot women, but really it's not so easy.
So just a bit of a word of warning for guys that come down there, I guess.
Or anywhere else in the world.
And I am going to guess that they are mostly under 30.
A lot.
Yeah.
Quite often they are.
I mean, sometimes you'll see guys that are over 30, even in their 40s or whatever.
Just, I've noticed in the last, I would say, three or four years that I've been going down.
I've been going down there for about seven.
And as the country's been getting more popular with tourists in general, and you know, guys coming down looking to party and looking for girls and everything, I don't know if it's like the quality of guy that's coming down is decreasing, I guess, because Colombia is becoming more of a, I guess, safe destination.
It almost reminds me of when I was in Asia and, you know, Southeast Asia kind of attracts a notoriously, I don't know, I could say it's just kind of a nerdier guy, maybe doesn't have the best social skills.
And I see some of these guys coming to Columbia now, and I just, you know, I'll go meet up with them for a beer or whatever.
And I just think, holy smokes, bud, like, this really just isn't the place for you.
And I kind of feel sorry.
There are two things that are going on.
One, all that like toxic masculinity stuff that they started teaching in college.
It started over 10 years ago.
It's actually working.
It's really soyifying guys where they're really scared of becoming a player.
You know, they don't know that they have not been rewarded for being ballsy, bold, charming.
So a lot of these guys now who's entering game, you know, they have some, I don't want to say social awkward issues.
It's a combination of social awkwardness and just not having had to exhibit being a man.
They just, because it was always told to them that that's bad.
You're going to hurt women and so on.
And the second thing is, you know, we just live in a culture of this quick fix, buy now, easy results now with Tinder and things like that.
Seemingly you can meet a girl within minutes or, you know, hours instead of doing the work and taking days.
So you have those two things.
A lot of people don't know that.
Yeah, the entitlement of women are going up, but the entitlement of men too.
I see, man, they're not getting any action, nothing.
And they want like an eight.
I'm like, bro.
And these are guys that, you know, they read me.
They know me.
They know the red pill.
They're more, they're just as entitled as the women that they're going after.
They think that these, a six being a six is beneath them.
But in this sexual marketplace, you're a five.
Yeah, you think you're an eight.
You know, I'm a 10 because my mama told me I'm really handsome and special.
And I know I'm good.
I got some muscles.
I go to the gym.
Girls don't give a shit.
Okay.
If they got a never-ending line of other men, your value in a market changes every day.
In a market that favors women, it's five points lower than you probably think.
So this is what you have.
And the third thing, I guess I'll add a third thing.
I was in Colombia in 2008.
This was before the smartphone.
There was such a lack of cell phones among the women that there would be vendors in the square sell with signs, Minuto Cell Yular, where if you needed to make a phone call, you would go to the vendors.
And even back then, the girls were flaky as hell, flaky.
I mean, back then, guys were, man, I got to set three dates on the same night so one will show up.
I can't even imagine how it is now.
Maybe you can tell me.
Yeah, it's still pretty bad.
And the Minutos guys are still there because although many of these people have their smartphones, they don't, a lot of them still can't afford to actually have a data plan.
So they still go to the Minutos guys to make the calls.
But yeah, they'll find a restaurant or a pub or whatever with Wi-Fi and go on their Tinder off of that.
But yeah, the guys, I mean, they're kind of overwhelmed.
You know, I think a lot of them go on to Columbia Cupid and they get some replies or they'll do Tinder Plus and set their Tinder to Medie Gene.
And the girls will, you know, they'll match with you.
They'll even chat with you.
Sometimes they'll give them the WhatsApp.
And, you know, that doesn't mean anything because you'll see guys coming on to RVF and they're saying that.
Like they're saying, I have all these matches.
I'm talking to all these girls.
You know, where should I go?
Should I go to Mediegene?
Should I go to Cali?
And I just try to tell them, hey, you know, show up and do your thing.
But try to have realistic expectations because, you know, there is such a thing as coming down to Columbia, spending all this money on, you know, a flight in a hotel and coming for two weeks.
And there's guys coming down and they're not getting any action.
So I don't feel bad for them.
You know, I mean, that's just hot.
I've been to countries where I've had to work like a slave to get something.
Just because you hop on an airplane doesn't mean you are deserving of anything.
You know, of course, I admire a man who wants to work, but if you expect something and your expectation doesn't happen because you didn't work in the way you should and you didn't adapt, I think the crime is not adapting to the environment.
I mean, shit, dude, sorry.
There's still a never-ending line of dudes that are really hungry and are going to come down and try to.
So that's just, I mean, it weeds out.
Game is getting so hard that if a guy is still in it, there must be some, he must be sick.
He must have some kind of sickness to stay in this.
I definitely do.
You know, I am sick as I'm still in it.
And granted, I'm seeing a girl now, so I'm not actively out there, but it's hard.
It's hard.
And you have to, your mind has to be wired in a certain way to deal with this.
I don't know if your ego has to be high.
I don't know if your horniness has to be high.
I don't know if you're just bored and you don't be entertained by TV and movies and you need real face-to-face interactions.
I don't know what it is.
But today, if you get into game in 2018, if 100 guys get in it today, in one year, only three or four are still going to be in it.
Well, yeah, I mean, certainly people can burn out from it.
You know, it does get pretty old, especially if you're down in Columbia and the girls are waking on you.
Especially Medi Gene.
A few years ago, I just decided it just wasn't really my place.
I'll still go there for a week or two to visit friends.
And I still have a couple girls I see down there.
But for myself, I mean, I put in the work down there.
I've spent, you know, over two years down there in total over the past several years.
And as you know, I contributed quite a bit on the forum and I tell these guys, you know, my experiences and other guys do as well.
You know, we're telling them what to expect and where to go.
And, you know, this is the reality of going down to Columbia to chase women.
You know, the nightclub scene is different, you know, with the tables.
And it's not so easy.
And myself, I mean, I just put in the work that now when I go down, it is relatively easy.
But, you know, I took Spanish lessons.
I took salsa lessons.
I know what the people are like.
I can joke with them about, you know, lots of different things about their culture, music and whatever else, politics.
I can talk to Colombians about pretty much anything.
And yeah, for the guys that come down, I mean, it still happens.
Like a lot of the guys that do have success, you know, they're good looking guys.
Like some of the guys come down and they do tear it up.
Some of them are pulling one-night stands and some of them are just, you know, walking down the street and girls are making themselves available to them.
But these guys are, you know, the top 10% of guys.
Like, they would do well anywhere.
They're going to do well anywhere.
Guys like myself, I'm, you know, I'm a short guy, not particularly handsome.
You know, I have enough money, but I'm not throwing money around like crazy.
So I had to put in work and I did, and it's worked out.
But for your average guy, I consider myself pretty average.
You know, for an average guy, just to think to come down for a couple of weeks that it's going to be non-stop, you know, sex fest is they're going to leave disappointed.
So yeah, that's kind of the point of my call is to just kind of tell the guys that think, you know, jumping on a plane and going lower your expectations.
Yeah, lower your expectations.
Like you say, don't expect to get the eights, you know, like there's nothing wrong with the fives and the sixes.
They can be pretty good company as well, you know.
So yeah, just before you go wasting a few grand on a on a vacation, just know what you're getting into, guys.
All right, man.
Yeah.
And I'm going to, and I try to tell them too, but it's really hard to break a pattern of thought where I deserve this because I am this.
But really, the market tells you what you're worth, not you.
So having fake confidence may have helped a bit in the past where women valued boldness more since they weren't approached.
But now that fake confidence is going to be met with the market immediately and you're going to make excuses.
So yeah.
But thank you for calling in and make sure you say hi to all the other Colombian RVFers down there.
Will do.
Thanks for taking my call.
All right, man.
Bye-bye.
All right.
Have a good one.
Bye-bye.
So I'm going to tell you a story right now.
In my city, it's not as good as it used to be.
But I was walking outside with a friend and three Indian Pakistani guys recognized me and they were so excited.
They were like bowing to me, like, oh, it's Rush.
Well, let me see if I can do their accent.
Oh, it is Rush, Rush.
You are my favorite.
No, I'm joking.
They were modernized, so they didn't have a thick accent.
But these guys were so happy to see me.
They were saying they read all of my work.
They lived in Germany and they took a trip to have some fun.
So they're the new Germans, right?
And they were nice guys, not particularly good looking or tall.
They weren't Chads or anything.
And then I was expecting them to say, man, this city is not that good.
Instead, they did the opposite.
They basically said this city is heaven, heaven.
And they were listing all the action that they've gotten in the past 24 hours.
They got some bangs even.
I was like oh, really?
Shit.
And they're like, yeah, it's so good.
And we're so energized.
And we're going back out.
We're going to this club over here.
And I knew the club that they were going to.
It's not good now.
But they were like, it's a great club.
And I was like, and they were genuinely happy.
They were very happy.
And here I talked to the other expats from like England, Canada, and we're drinking.
It's not as good anymore and drinking.
And I remember back in 2011, I was the first foreigner here.
So that reminded me of these immigrants in the USA that open a 7-Eleven or dry cleaner, just basic shops.
But they work at it, you know, all day, 12-hour days.
They're working and they don't mind and they appreciate it.
Because back at home, they weren't making the money.
So these Indian guys back in Pakistan, India, they weren't getting anything, nothing.
And they come to Europe and they're traveling around, and it's heaven for them.
It's heaven because what they were getting was nothing.
Just like how the migrant who goes to the USA and opens a shop that you wouldn't do, it's crazy.
He's attached to that store working 20-hour, 18-hour days.
He's opening a restaurant, backbreaking work.
He loves it.
He's having a big family.
His children are working there.
So when you're raised in comfort and you're used to stuff, you don't appreciate anything.
If you were born in the West after 1980, you don't appreciate nothing.
But if you were born in India today and I bring you to where I'm at, it's like God smiled down upon you.
So that's what the secret is.
It's all relative.
This is why your expectations can only be high if life has been easy.
If you've gotten things without having to work hard.
The only reason I'm still in the game is because up to when I graduated from college, I got nothing.
I got no women, literally zero women.
I was a virgin until I was 22.
Nothing.
So when the door opened for me after I was 20, I appreciated every bang, even the mediocre bangs, even the chubby girl.
You know, even the girl whose vagina smelled a bit.
I appreciated it.
I savored it.
No expectation.
And of course, finally, now at 39, I'm a little entitled now.
I complain more because I've had good.
I've had good for a long time.
Now I complain.
Now I am entitled like the 30-year-old, but I'm not that entitled.
I think that's more of a millennial thing.
I think they tend to be more entitled.
But anyway.
Oh, okay.
Let's take another call.
We got 616 viewers.
Nice.
All right.
Get my random generator.
Who is going to be the lucky caller next?
So we are going to caller number eight.
So the guy who has not been holding at all.
Life isn't fair.
Sorry to the callers up in front.
All right.
Hello, caller.
You're now live.
Oh, my life.
Oh, okay.
You are a lucky guy.
How are you doing, buddy?
Pretty good.
And where are you calling from?
England.
England.
Oh, no.
Not England.
Yeah, England.
Yeah, I basically called you up because I want to.
First of all, I want to shill for my YouTube channel.
Oh.
Which is called Brutus the Aryan.
Well, since you're the lucky caller, I'll let you shill it.
Okay, well, I've shamelessly promoted my channel.
You have to have something good to say now.
Yeah, secondly, I have to ask you, why are you not taking a stand against miscegenation?
Why?
Oh, God.
I knew this call was going to suck.
So for those of you who don't know what miscegenation is, it's interracial dating.
Why am I not taking a stand?
Because I'm not going to tell a man who to sleep with and who not to sleep with.
If you want to bang Asian girls, which many white men, white nationalists do, Asian, black, Latina, I don't care.
I'm not going to tell you.
If everyone mixes, is there going to cause some harm on a societal level?
It could.
I'm more concerned about the individual.
If you're mixed like me, if your parents come from two different cultures, granted, my mom and dad are pretty close by, neighboring countries, you have one foot in this door and one foot in that door.
And you look in the, and especially you're born in a third country and you look in yourself and you say, who am I?
What is my real ethnicity?
Is it culturally based or is it genetically based?
But I'm mixed.
So really, the individual, it's not that easy.
And a lot of the funny thing is, if you're in the USA and you look at these Black Lives Matters groups, you look at the photos of those who run those groups.
They are the whitest black people I have ever seen.
They are like mixed, like half and half.
And the reason they're in this group is because of the difficulty to find identity.
So they're like, what am I?
So they want to find identity.
So they join this political thing, this Black Lives Matters.
But if you go to one of their rallies, you don't see African people because he already knows he's black.
He knows what his identity is.
He doesn't need to join a Soros-funded organization to feel proud of who he is.
But bottom line, to answer what you asked, is that I don't, I am in no position to tell men who to sleep with.
I'm not a politician.
I'm not organizing countries and ruling over nations.
So I don't care.
You sleep with whoever you want.
I may point out some absurdities of pushing this woman to only sleeping with maybe, I don't know, African dudes, you know, or saying, okay, if you're going to use the media to promote white women and African men, at least do the opposite too.
So you have white men and African girls, at least make it equal, or your agenda is a little bit obvious.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I want to make it clear.
I'm not like, my intention here is not to just attack you.
I'm just opening the channel.
I'm trying.
I do appreciate.
No, well, I mean, I do appreciate the work that you've done.
And, you know, I appreciate that a lot of people, they go on, you know, Return of Kings and they get, you know, red-tilled into the Jewish problem and this thing.
But I'm just, I'm looking at you and I think, you know, a man in your position and with your knowledge, you understand that white genocide is going on.
You understand that, you know, the floodgates have been opened and we have all these people, these third world people coming into white nations.
Okay.
And you understand that the Jews have this agenda.
They want to exterminate us through miscegenation.
And I understand that you want to take a stand for men.
And this is something which I appreciate a lot because I personally am a little bit frustrated with the alt-right because it's, you know, it's got so many feminists in it.
It's got so many homosexuals in it.
And it's just, it's, you know, it's frustrating for me.
It's like, well, why isn't somebody standing up for the men?
You know, so I do it.
Hold on.
You are expecting too much of me.
So now, if someone is getting harmed, if a certain man is getting harmed, white man, black man, Latin man, Asian man, I will speak for him.
Okay.
I don't, but I see in the culture, the white man is being attacked a lot, a lot more than what the other groups are, at least directly.
You know, before when I started this, this show, I talked about how white professors in the UK are being assigned handlers that are black women.
I mean, this is crazy stuff.
You know, now are black men in the USA being assigned handlers that are white women, not right now, but black men have had it bad in the past, especially when any white woman can say a black man raped her and the cops are going to come and get that guy.
So, they've, I mean, really, black men in the USA have been the canary in the coal mine.
But anyway, so I speak out against if men are being attacked, if red pill masculine men are being attacked.
It's not only white men.
You see, me, I'm not technically white, but they attack me too.
So, yeah, I say it, I speak it.
What more do you do you want?
I'm not a politician, I'm not in charge of policy.
What do you want?
What more do you want me to do?
Where is this frustration?
I know your country is in bad shape, very bad shape.
Yeah, it's basically done.
Yeah, you know, so I get it.
And you see me, okay, Rouch has an audience, he has a voice.
I want him to do more, but what they're gonna shut me down anyway.
Yeah, so it's not up to me.
I've seen you say this before that you don't want to attack the Jews because you don't want to get shut down.
And I do appreciate that because you've already been censored a lot, but I just feel that you could take a stance against miscegenation.
No, no, no, no, I'm not gonna do that.
I'm not gonna do that because I'm not gonna tell men who they should sleep with.
It's none of my business, none of my business.
Okay, but I'm you are basically telling me to control who you sleep with.
And if you want to marry a girl, you better give me the genetic test of your future wife so I can make sure it's pure.
Are you crazy?
Why would I do that?
Why would I do that?
Because it's harmful, because it's harmful for men.
No, if you're a white guy and you marry some, let's say you marry some Asian girl, right?
Because it's very popular in the alt-right, right?
A lot of guys chasing off Asian girls.
Let's say you get an Asian wife, right?
And you have some half-breed girl, some half-breed child with this Asian wife, then what's going to happen to your son or your daughter?
How are they going to feel?
Where are they going to fit into society?
They're going to be confused about their identity.
They're not going to know if they're white or if they're Asian.
They're going to have problems growing up.
And you're going to have problems, you know.
So, you know, I don't have, I don't have kids.
I can just comment on what I do see.
I have talked about that.
I said being mixed race can give you identity problems.
And I'm saying it right now.
Okay.
And then what?
What else?
I've said that already.
Make a stand.
What is this?
Some kind of Western country film where you're in the dirt and you, I'm going to draw this line in the dirt and we're going to do a duel now.
I'm making a stand.
This, I mean, that's kind of silly.
Yeah, I can say facts, but then what?
Nothing's going to change because I don't have power.
I don't have power to make a change.
I don't work in the marketing agencies that are pushing this.
I don't work in Hollywood.
So you're frustrated at the wrong guy.
Well, you do have power.
You have an audience and people.
Okay.
And I'm telling them, mixing with someone could give someone could give the children identity problems like I have.
Right.
And then what?
What more?
Do you want me to write a book about it?
Would that make you happier?
I'm going to write a book.
I mean, what do you want?
You're telling me to say things I've already said that I've already addressed many times.
Okay.
I'm just saying I've seen you many times that you've said that you don't care who screws who.
You don't care about black men screwing white women and this kind of thing.
So this is Problematic because the white race is being problematic.
Are you a SJW?
They use that word.
Sorry?
Are you an SJW social justice warrior?
Only they use that word problematic.
I didn't know that they owned that word.
They do.
No, I'm not a social justice warrior.
No, not at all.
I get what your point is.
It makes you upset.
Listen, I get it.
I get it.
It makes you upset when you see white women getting railed by black men and other men and Muslim men.
It makes you upset when you're in London and you see that.
I get it.
Okay.
And, you know, either this, either you become a politician and you change the policy, you get a voice that's bigger than me and you can propagandize everyone, or you compete with those men to get the woman that you want.
That's it.
There's no other option.
You can be mad at me.
That's fine, but I ain't going to change anything anyway.
Even if I take the stand in the dirt, like you said, it ain't going to change anything anyway.
And I don't want to take that stand.
I'm not going to tell men who to date.
No, it's not going to change anything.
I'm not going to tell men who they can sleep with.
If there's a black man who is listening right now and he likes a white girl, hey, I don't care.
He does whatever he wants.
And I'm not going to change that.
If you have a problem with it, that's your problem.
That's your problem.
Okay, so then you're basically the enemy of the white race.
Jesus Christ.
If in your mind, you believe that, then yes.
In your mind, if you believe it, then yes.
And you're going to have to sleep thinking, damn, I can't watch Roosh's live streams anymore because he's enemy of the white race.
If that's what you want to believe, you can believe it.
Well, that's what it boils down to.
Okay, so I'm enemy of the white race.
We're getting all men, including white men, who they should sleep with.
I guess I am then.
I'm worse than the anti-defamation league.
I'm worse than Hollywood.
You're putting me in the same class as them.
And this is why you're in the same class.
I do appreciate that you've done good work, right?
And there are a lot of people in the alt-right who utterly despise you.
And I have actually defended you many times.
And I've said that you've done good work.
And actually, I mean, I appreciate the work that you do because at least you're honest.
Like a lot of people in the alt-right, I don't even know what the hell they're coming from anymore.
I don't know what their position is.
They lie about so many things.
And it's very frustrating for me.
So at least.
I can feel your frustration.
I can feel it.
But I'll say this: how absurd it is that you have a problem going in the UK.
Your government is really against the people.
And you are so impotent to act that you're calling an American with a YouTube channel and venting.
You know, you would think, is there someone else that you can petition someone else that can make a bigger people?
And I do, well, I do petition other people and I do do a lot of other things and talk to a lot of other people.
Okay, so keep on doing that.
Randomly.
Okay, great.
Save the people that you decided to phone you up out of the blue, basically.
That's fine.
But this wasn't planned.
But one thing I will say is that, yeah, mixed race people can have identity problems.
But one thing I will not say is who men should date.
I will not say that.
Okay.
And you will be disappointed.
I hope you don't cry or anything.
But I think that's just how it is.
All right.
Well, I'll accept that as a halfway mark.
Okay.
Well, whatever helps you, but I'm saying if you're counting on me to help save your race, you're in a lot of trouble, a lot, because I don't have that power to help you.
And my voice isn't that big.
There's 600 people that are watching now.
That's nice, and I'm grateful.
But I'm a drop in the voice, and the manuscript has changed a lot of things.
What I'm about to do, oh, the bell rung, so I gave you enough time.
I hope you have a good day.
All right, man.
Bye-bye.
Okay, thank you.
Yeah, so I mean, I get his point.
You know, if you're a white man in the UK and you don't, he probably doesn't have a girlfriend, he doesn't have a beautiful girl, and he's seeing these white girls getting dating men of black and whatever.
And it's frustrating.
I could feel it.
His frustration is high.
I get it.
But you're not going to get me to say who can sleep with who.
That's a bag of worms I don't want to get involved in.
Okay, Ethnocentrist donated $5.
He said, Can we overcome the age of women?
Can we return to normal male-dominated social hierarchies?
That's a tough question.
In our lifetimes, probably not.
As long as there is an easy, as long as women are voting and working and going to universities, no.
So if you want to scale things back, you're going to have to take away their right to vote, among other things.
Absolute ability donated $10.
He said, Are women at night in bars and pubs more approachable than in the West?
Namely, Ukraine and Poland?
Are they less entitled?
They're the same, but if you're foreign, they're less.
So, I mean, if you're just a local loser and you in Poland or Ukraine and you approach them, maybe you're not going to get any love.
But if you're a foreigner and you look foreign and you're dressed well and you have a great beard, yeah, the entitlement you feel is a lot lower because in their minds, your value is higher.
And Questno donated five Canadian.
Okay, so we'll take one more caller and then I have to go to pizza.
So let's see here.
We have let me get my random number, Jenner.
Okay, the lucky guy.
Who's the last caller?
Caller number six.
And okay, this looks like a clicked it's not working.
Hold on, let me get caller number six.
Something happened.
Oh, there it is.
Hello, caller.
You're now live.
Hey, Roose.
How's it going, man?
How are you?
We had a good, good, excellent.
I'm actually half Asian, so kind of interesting follow-up to your last call.
But now, are you the half-Asian man that I know?
Or I don't know you because I know a couple half-Asians.
Okay.
We've emailed a couple times.
Yeah, yeah.
I wrote an ROK article about Thailand.
But yeah, just a quick question.
Yeah, I mean, I've been in Warsaw now for a couple weeks and been fairly successful.
But we're just wondering if you had any like, you had the Bang Poland book, which is really helpful.
But just wondering if you had any like updates to that book.
Some I know that was written like maybe five, ten years ago.
So, I mean, I found the girls to be pretty receptive and they've been really nice and sweet.
But in terms of day game, I've maybe been having a little like stumbling blocks there.
So yeah, I'll go ahead and hang up and stay on the line.
What would you say is your rating on a scale of one to 10?
That was seven.
Seven, okay.
And would you, I mean, so you're not like an Asian Chad, but you're good looking.
No, no, I went to the gym, maybe a little bit, I would never have classified myself towards an eight, but yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm, you know, seven.
Yeah, okay.
I'm good looking.
I have good facial features, but I'm not, you know, I'm not a Chad.
Sure.
You know, if I'm on Facebook, you know, I'm with other friends and some of the girls comment on like how good looking my friends are.
But okay, if you're a seven, like I'm but if you're a seven in Poland, that is that that is good, you know, because I'm sure you've seen some of the Polish men.
They could use a bit of work, but they're getting cooler.
They're more cool now.
They've been, you know, they're getting some good haircuts and some HM clothing and stuff like that.
So you're having some stumbling blocks during the day, but not at night?
Night's been doing okay.
Yeah, yeah.
I got one night game, night bang a couple nights ago.
Kind of like a the smaller clubs seem to be better.
I think I've gone to these like mega clubs in Warsaw and they seem to be the women seem to be not as receptive and there's just like a lot of foreign guys.
So I think the smaller places for me have been better.
But day, I'm not still don't have the confidence to, you know, if I see a girl at the coffee shop, exactly how to approach.
So how many approaches during the day have you done?
It's been here two weeks.
Not many, maybe like 15.
And out of those 15, have you gotten anything?
Any phone numbers, anything?
I've gotten one number, yes.
I got the sense that she was going to flake because she was, oh, you know, I'm going to study abroad in England at the end of the summer.
And so, you know, it was more like just to get a number, just to get a feel for, you know, the process of it.
Yeah, I mean, it sounds to me that you...
So, yeah, I have gotten...
It sounds to me that you're a newbie when it comes to day game.
Like you don't have a lot of experience doing it.
And one out of 15 to get a number is not horrible.
I mean, it's not that bad.
It just seems like something that you need to stick with and figure out whether the best strategy for you is to go direct or indirect.
So I don't know what you're using.
And the second thing is to do approaches that are more, don't just approach the hottest girl you see and to run after her.
You know, start with girls who are walking slow, looking around, who seem a little bit more open.
Don't just approach based on what you want.
Approach based also on what the girl wants.
Right, right.
Yeah.
And I guess that's that's actually a good point you bring up is in terms of direct versus indirect because I've read both things in specifics to Poland online.
Like I know in your book, you say more indirect is better, but I've also read people who say go more direct.
For me, I feel more comfortable indirect, but you know, in that case, I would do.
I'm not the guy to go up and do 25 direct and 25 indirect and see how you feel after that.
I mean, you have to do some kind of test, right?
But for me, yeah, I do direct because I am such a low burn kind of guy.
My energy is so low during the day that I can't just be home all day at work and then go out and do a direct direct opener unless the girl is giving me eye contact.
So I like to start indirect, warm up.
And if I feel a little bit more social, then I can do, then I can experiment with more things.
But what's most important is what you feel comfortable doing, what motivates you the most because both can work.
I mean, if a girl, she likes you, it doesn't matter which way that you go.
But it seems like you just need to put some more time into 15 approaches in two weeks.
That's one a day, man.
I know guys who do that amount every day.
You do every day 15.
I don't.
No, no, no, I don't.
No, come on now.
Are you trying to kill me?
No, no, no, I don't.
But I know guys who do.
I know guys who, listen, when they travel, that's all they do all day.
I mean, I see them like in the city I'm in.
I see them in this next to the mall.
And an hour later, I see them over here and they're just blanketing everything.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I've seen a couple of those guys in the malls in Warsaw.
can tell that they are posted up in like the escalator high traffic area and but dude i'm just saying i'm just saying I'm just saying that this bubble is going to burst.
Like, there's just too many foreign guys because now in the city I'm in, like, the cheap flights have increased.
Now, guys are coming from not just in the U.S., Canada, but like other parts of Europe, like Scotland and more from Spain.
Like, what the amount of foreign, like, this isn't like this arbitrage opportunity that at least I've taken advantage of for a while.
And we've had that call from Colombia too.
It's getting harder.
It's getting harder everywhere.
Yeah, it's too easy to hop on a plane now.
So there's too many guys doing it.
Yeah.
And girls are getting more entitled like, oh, I can get better because today three dudes came up to me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It feels like the bubble is bursting within the next, I don't know, a couple years or so because all the venues seem like they're getting flooded and played out.
And then it's like a, you know, a mass migration or something.
Yeah.
But hey, take advantage.
It's still good.
I mean, there's a lot of areas that are still good.
You just have to take, you just have to take advantage of it.
But in terms of your day game, you have to, hold on.
You still have to put some more time into it because 15 in two weeks, honestly, man, even I think Arnold does more than that.
Before I go, I guess one last point.
So the girl that I met last weekend, because in your book, you write about how some of these things are one night, they turn into like more longer term relationships.
So I don't know if you have tips in like how to or in terms of managing that with the Polish girls, because now the girl's like, you know, it's just really nice.
And but you can kind of sense it's like, okay, this is maybe she wants to turn into something, you know, more regular.
Yeah, it's usually if things are going to go longer term, it's up to the girl if she has targeted you as someone she wants to be with.
So really just she's going to text you often.
You know, she's going to suggest dates instead of you having to do it.
So if you're getting that, just go along with it.
I mean, there's nothing to do.
You just spend time with her.
But is there anything you can consciously do?
What I found, no, it's up to the girl if she feels that compatibility, if she feels that emotional connection, which is not something you can really teach, then you're going to know.
Yeah, yeah.
But overall, it's a great country.
I think the Polish girls are very nice.
I'm from California.
So kind of a contrast in terms of, you know, those feminine values that are, you know, the California girls, you feel like, you know, they just chuck you out the window when you no longer serve their means.
For Asian men, I really don't know a better country in Europe than in Poland.
So leave that.
I mean, take that for what you want.
Yeah, no, it's been really great.
And I got the sense from your book.
So yeah, hopefully I don't have to use my Thai passport again soon because that's a whole nother.
I would say for your listeners, I think about Thailand.
I know this comes up.
I would make sure to buy a return flight because I've seen guys that go to Thailand and they have a certain, you know, we're going to go for a couple months.
And then all of a sudden they've got some, you know, get involved with the wrong type of women or they, you know, sell up something.
The bell rang.
Yeah.
The bell of autism.
Yeah.
All right, buddy.
Well, thank you so much.
Okay, man.
Uh-huh.
All right.
Take care.
Bye-bye.
Once that bell rings, guys.
Okay, let's just go over the super chats I got and then we're done.
So we got a super chat from Bonky Jones, 999.
Thank you, Bonky.
Nicholas Johnson donated $10 twice.
He said, Good job, man.
And then have a drink on me.
Thank you, Nicholas.
And CBUCF donated $19.99.
Love you, bro.
More live chats.
Please don't be silenced.
I'll try not to be silenced.
So thank you for everyone.
It was a bit of a buggy live stream today.
I don't know.
Some things were going wrong.
Whatever.
There's a glitch in the matrix.
But thank you for joining in.
And hopefully, we will do this again next week.
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