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July 15, 2018 - Roosh V - Daryush Valizadeh
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Roosh Live #14
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Welcome to Ruch Live number 14.
It's been a couple months since I last did this.
One reason was I was in the USA.
I went there to buy a used car.
So I now have wheels.
it's because i anticipate going back to the u.s a lot and i need a way to get around and also as you may know i had some difficulties getting back into europe If you didn't go on my blog, I was detained in Iceland.
I was detained because I thought I could do a layover in England.
Even though I'm banned from England, I figured a layover, that's not going to cause any damage.
Well, it did.
It did because from my plane, my connecting flight from Iceland to England, the plane turned around in midair.
It landed.
And I didn't know it was me because the captain and the flight attendants didn't give the specific reason.
They just said it was a security issue.
But I knew that it was me.
And then when the plane, so it didn't go to the actual terminal.
It went in like the middle of the airport.
And then I looked out the window and I thought I wondered how many police cars there would be.
You know, I was expecting about 20 cars with Icelandic police and Uzis rocket launchers.
Instead, there was only one car.
Only one.
My ego was really hurt.
I thought I deserved more than one police car.
At least they didn't send the female officers, right?
Can you imagine how insulted I would be if they sent female police officers to apprehend me?
I would say no.
I would say, I'm going to sit here.
You go get some men because it would ruin my brand if I was handcuffed or escorted by women.
But anyway, you know, I'm glad that that is over.
I was only detained for one hour, then set loose in Europe again, where I can continue my pillage tour, which began in 2011.
You know, thankfully I'm still allowed in the European Union.
Not for long, right?
Me and Arnold, we're going to get our asses banned any day now.
You know, I wake up every day and I appreciate that I'm allowed to do anything because you never know when the whole party ends.
And it always ends when you least expect.
Last thing that's going on is the World Cup.
You know, I didn't know that the World Cup was going on today.
I thought it was at night.
And I said this live stream.
I'm like, where is everyone?
It's pretty quiet.
There was only a few people waiting.
I thought, man, maybe I lost my touch, all that being banned everywhere.
But no, it was because the World Cup was actually playing.
I didn't know.
But it's done.
Sorry, Croatia.
They tried their best, but it wasn't good enough.
Okay, let's get started with some calls, huh?
We haven't done this in like two months.
Are you ready, Arnold?
let me get some water okay let's take our first caller Hello, Carla.
NOW LIVE uh.
Hello, do you hear me?
Yes, I can hi Ruth.
Um, my question is about uh long-term, uh expatriate life and uh family.
Uh, you had said in a previous call-in show that you felt in some ways that you were uh actually closer with your family uh when you were living in the in Europe, because you were uh speaking to them on the phone a lot every day and you may not have done that in the U.S.
But I think that that show was actually before the event now with your sister and my condolences for that.
And I'm wondering if your perspective has changed at all since then.
If you feel like you should have been there in person in the U.S. rather than in Europe.
I was just wondering if you had any regrets about that, if anything had changed at all about the way you've been thinking about that.
Yeah, I'll be sharing some more about that in the future, how my sister's death changed how I have seen some things.
But the most immediate idea that hit me is I've spent a lot of time in very shallow things and things that didn't really give me any meaning outside of the moment.
I mean, we can eat a really good meal right now and you can say, well, that meal wasn't a meaningful thing.
I mean, I ate it and it's done and now it's going to be processed through my body.
But how much effort am I going to put into that meal?
Am I going to spend dozens and dozens of hours just to eat a single meal?
Probably not.
But maybe that's what I was doing in terms of traveling to exotic places and, you know, pursuing girls.
You know, I was really putting a lot of time into one meal that is going to be processed by my body within only a day.
As for do I regret not living in the U.S. or not, I mean, it's, you know, hindsight is always 2020.
It's always 2020.
Of course, I wish that I spent more time with her, you know.
But at the end of the day, you know, once that acute pain is done, you realize that you have to live your own life in the way that you see fit to.
So I'm glad that in her last couple of years, I did spend a lot of time with her.
I was in the U.S. for at least six months or so.
But, you know, even at the end, it was still, you still didn't know.
You still don't know when someone's time comes up.
You still don't know that, okay, she or he is stable in their medical condition, but they can drop quickly and then boom, all the plans you thought you had with that person are gone.
You know, this is one thing I learned.
Planning is useless.
Planning is useless 90% of the time, maybe your plans are going to work out, but it's that 10% of the time it can turn where it doesn't, it turns your whole world upside down.
And so I've kind of, since then, I'm not as eager to plan.
Like I just said earlier, I wake up and, hey, I'm still in Europe.
I'm still able to get up and work and go to the cafe and have a tea or a coffee.
And for me, that's good enough.
I don't think of the future as much now.
I don't think of, well, where am I going to be in five years?
It's like that question that they ask you in job interviews.
Where do you see yourself in five years?
I don't know where I see myself in five weeks.
You know, I know I got two books I'm working on.
I want to get those done because they're feeling like a burden.
If you're a writer, you know how a book that you can't complete in a timely way, it feels like a burden.
But other than that, it's just a matter of getting up and understanding that, yeah, when bad events happen, the hindsight will make you think, I wish I could have done that.
It will bring up feelings of guilt.
But you're not a person that can travel back in time, and you have to do the best thing at the time that all these events happen.
And be sure to mute the video.
Don't watch me and talk to me at the same time because then there is an echo.
Hello?
I don't hear you, so I think you're gone.
Are you watching me?
Thank you for everything that you do.
Okay, great.
Uh-huh.
Bye-bye.
Oh, yeah.
If you're calling in and you watch the video, it's going to be like an it's going to be a big, a big echo because there's a 30-second delay between the live call and the video.
All right, let's see how our chat is doing.
Someone said, I don't trust this caller.
I think he's trying to trigger Roosh by implying he did wrong by not staying in the USA.
You know, honestly, I mean, that wasn't, I mean, I feel a range of emotions after my sister died, but guilt isn't one of them.
I mean, I, you know, I think I was as good of a brother as anyone else.
I see how other brothers, sisters, they have a relationship.
And I think, you know, there was a lot of love there.
So I don't think, oh, I wish I called her more often.
I was talking to her almost every day.
I mean, so there wasn't a whole lot more that could have been done.
All right, let's take the next caller.
Hello, Carla.
You're now live, Roche.
What's going on, man?
Calling you from Missouri and the Missouri states.
Yeah, and I'm calling to talk to you about, well, I'm a teacher.
And in this business that I'm in, the one thing I want to get your thoughts on this because I didn't start my career as a conservative or anything.
But thanks to, I guess, you know, just exposing myself to different ideas, I wound up calling you.
But I work in an area where it's pretty rural.
You know, people would assume Missouri, deep red state.
But to show how far the subversion of our culture has gone, you have to, like, all of my fellow teachers, I would say 80% are Trump voters.
And they would believe pretty much if you talk to them in a conversation, most of the ideas that people on the alt-right or thinkers like yourself would put forth, except maybe the extreme stuff about women.
They probably wouldn't go with that, but everything else about race, you know, about gender relations, about the LGBT tranny type of stuff, they'd all think that's that shit crazy.
But within the curriculum, most of them, like even the most fervent Trump-supporting history teachers, they won't think twice about teaching all of this subversive materials that get put forth in the curriculum, where you think it's just like Black History Month for that matter.
That's a really good example.
Think that, oh, black history is just taught during Black History Month, but really it's put forth in every aspect of the curriculum every month of the year.
Whether you're studying the Revolutionary War, they're going to have some aspect of Crispus addicts or whoever, you know, and they're going to inject that race thing into the revolution or prior back or World War II.
You're going to learn very little this has been going on for a long, long time.
It's nothing new.
Yeah, it's definitely been going on very long time.
But I'm saying the problem is that people who are teachers who would be very, very conservative, even in your deepest red states of Missouri, they don't even think twice.
They don't even think past it.
They just teach it as, you know, they're told to teach that.
And so even though they would disagree with it, they don't understand the subversive effects that this curriculum and what they're actually teaching would have on the kids.
And so what are your thoughts on this right here?
I would say people who identify as being a conservative today are really liberals of maybe 10 to 20 years ago.
You know, they are just conservative on the surface.
It doesn't go deep down.
You know, they still probably believe that women should work.
All women should go to universities.
You know, they believe in general egalitarianism.
All races are equal.
I mean, this is not conservatism.
You know, conservatism really strongly identifies with a specific tribe, which happens to be your race.
And you do believe in old patriarchal means of organizing women and men.
So all these conservatives, yeah, just because someone votes for Donald Trump doesn't make them red-pilled on anything.
It just makes them a part of one team that is slightly different from the other team.
You know, it's just someone who's not.
I would agree with you on that in one sense, but like, but in terms of like the like just the history department at my school, they would agree with, you know, all of the extremer positions, like all of the things about race.
They would agree that probably the more, a lot of the things about gender, they would probably agree with those things.
But yet still they, you know, because they don't think because there's many different red pills.
It's not just you take one red pill and then you're done with it.
There's red pill on race, red pill on women, red pill on globalism, red pill on banking, red pill on how you live your life, red pill on a lot of stuff.
So they probably took one red pill, then they say, look at me, I am a conservative, but they didn't take the red pill that comes after that.
You know, so some people, when they get a little bit of truth in life, they're like, whoa, that's enough truth now.
I am, I don't want to go over the deep end.
I don't want to keep on going.
But other people, when you get a taste of the truth, you're like, oh, I want more of this.
It becomes like an addiction.
But a lot of people, they don't go deeper.
So this is why their conservatism is very shallow.
So whether it's, you know, history or not, anyway, whatever history they have learned themselves, you know, was written by the people who won, right?
It wasn't written by the people who lost.
So in there, there's blue pills, you know, sabotaging the education that they think is based on truth.
So what can you do?
Nothing.
I mean, there's nothing you can do.
Yeah.
You can't give red pills to people who don't come to you first to ask for it.
So you have to accept it.
No, I would agree with that, Ruch.
And what my whole point is that is that most of these people, even though they'd be willing to accept every red pill that you would want to talk to.
I don't think so.
Most likely.
I don't think so.
Well, in my personal experience, a lot of them are actually very, you know, this is Missouri, man.
People would be very, they would find your ideals more appealing than most.
But the fact of the matter is that these people, these people are adults and they have lives.
They have child support payments.
They don't have time to think about all of the subversion that's going on in our society.
And they just want to show up and do their job.
And so therefore, you know, though, I don't believe in a long march through the institutions.
I don't think that could work.
But, you know, a lot of guys that read your side and listen to you, they're looking for things to do.
And I think it's wrong to try to impress your ideas upon children.
And I do not do that ever.
I don't do that.
But the fact that, well, yeah, for sure.
But in terms of the education context, someone who would be a follower of your and working in education, it'd be a bad thing for them to try to impress their ideas upon children.
That's what the communists have done.
A lot of people are getting angry at you in the chat for talking too much and not getting to the point.
Well, okay, okay.
So is there anything you want to close this out?
What do you want to ask?
Because you're not asking me anything, really.
You're kind of that's okay.
You want to share how you feel about what's going on, but we need to.
I'm just saying some people should wrap it up, Rush.
You know, I'm just saying some people should consider education as a field, not through to affect change in an organizational level, but just as the fact that, you know, it's a career where you can work anywhere in the United States.
No one really cares, dude.
No one is asking about that, you know.
But I do appreciate your letting us know, but I think we've given you enough time.
So I hope you have a good day.
All right, buddy.
Okay, cool.
All right.
Bye-bye.
I mean, you know, I like to give people a lot of time to express themselves, but if I ask you to wrap it up and you go on to a new, a new topic, it makes it difficult for me to hang on, right?
Okay.
Hello, Caller.
You're now live.
Hey, Colin from West Virginia here.
I called once before.
I do remember that.
Yeah.
I was wondering, do you regret spending so much time and energy like chasing after girls and stuff?
I don't regret any of it.
Every instance of sex I have had has fulfilled me spiritually, emotionally, and most important, physically.
Thank God, I wish I did more of it.
I wish I doubled my notches.
Okay, I have one more question.
I was wondering, how many times did you get raped while you were in jail?
There was an attempt.
There was a black guy and he came up to me and then he said, and there's not a lot of black men that are in Iceland.
And then he came up to me and he said, what's up, bitch?
I heard you said that we can rape you on private property.
And then he told me to put my pants on.
I said, but this is public property.
And then he looked into space for what seemed like eternity.
And then he said, oh, you're right.
I ain't going to rape you then.
And I didn't get raped.
Thank God.
Thank God that he didn't know the difference between public and private.
Because I say, let's make people, let's make rape legal on private property.
But Iceland jail, it's public.
Whew.
Good luck.
Got lucky.
all right well thanks friend okay bye-bye Yeah.
So guys, that's private property, private.
All right caller, you're now live.
Hey yeah, i'm calling from Illinois Illinois okay great, how are you doing?
Pretty good, pretty good.
I just uh told the story on how I didn't get butt raped.
It was a great story.
Well, I was just yeah, I was just wondering in relation to that event, are you going to uh, when is your fight with uh Mayweather coming up, now that you're the most, uh dangerous man in the world?
Uh, you know that, just you know.
It really shows how ideas are really as more dangerous than physical power.
You know we don't live in the ages of hand-to-hand combat.
In those times, the strongest man, he would be the most feared.
But now we have weapons and guns, easy methods to control everyone.
So it's a man with an idea.
If that idea gets out there and all of the normies they take up to it, like oh no, all the control mechanisms we have in our place for our sheep are jeopardized, they may do something that they're not supposed to do.
So a guy like me i'm not maybe, physically strong, I don't go street to street to beat people up, but the ideas I have, because of the internet that they can get absorbed by tens of thousands of people that are really scares people, scares those in control.
So that's why.
So they're trying to weaken you enough so that those ideas have a harder time getting out there.
But at the same time, there's a balance, because if they write about you too much in the media, then your ideas get out there even more.
So they're very smart about it.
So what they do?
They usually launch an avalanche of articles in this manufactured viral event to really hurt you, to really shake you up, to get a lot of these mk ultra idiots on the left to you know dox, you threaten you, go to your mom's house and things such as that.
They really want to scare you enough so that, after this viral media outrage, you are shaken up and you're like, shit, I better watch out, because the things i'm saying can um, put my family in danger.
So then after that, they just ghost on you like.
Notice how the media I get uh, you know, i'm redirecting a flight in Iceland, not a peep no articles, when two, two years ago, a short blog post of 300 words was top news.
So they're very smart about it.
Yep yep, you're right.
Well uh hey, I got some questions where I got a notepad ready.
I want, I want your advice on some things okay, um so, and I called, I called once before, but uh, one of the things i'm having a problem with is I feel like i'm getting very um, since i've been cluing into all this stuff going on um, i've been spending so much time on the internet, you know, following current events,
and i've kind of gotten pulled away from my goals.
You know what I mean and um, so I guess my question is, um, how do you, how do you balance kind of following the events in the nanosphere and everything related to it with, Like, I don't know, I just have a hard time kind of pulling myself away?
You have to sometimes, ironically, you have to see all these events and politics, manosphere, 4chan, all that stuff as entertainment.
All politics is entertainment for people who think they're above entertainment, but it's entertainment.
Nine times out of ten, unless a specific law or policy is implemented in your local jurisdiction, it's entertainment.
Anything going on with Trump is entertainment, all that me too stuff.
All that is entertainment.
So, what's your problem is you're addicted to entertainment, like a girl who's addicted to her Instagram feed, her Facebook feed, like another man who's addicted to the sports ball.
You know, they had to watch every football game and then they have to get in the fantasy football leagues and they know the stats of this player or not.
So, really, it's an addiction to entertainment.
That's what the problem is.
Yep, yep.
Okay.
Yeah.
And one of the questions I had specifically in relation to that is: this is going to sound kind of weird, I guess, but hypnosis.
Have you ever tried any sort of like self-hypnosis?
I guess that's kind of like meditation.
That's something, I don't know, just something to kind of direct your, you know, your subconscious.
You know what I mean?
Uh, there, I mean, there is a way to do like an auto-suggestion program where you have a list of beliefs and you repeat those beliefs repeatedly to really etch them into your mind.
But hypnosis, no, I don't, I don't have that.
You know, I like to hypnotize other people.
Like, when a girl comes in, I kind of hit, I like have a thing and I say, focus on this.
And then she becomes really compliant and submissive, and she does whatever I want.
So, that's I like to hypnotize women.
I don't use hypnosis technique on myself.
Is there any like meditation, like, I don't know, website, like anybody or any program specific, specifically you would recommend, maybe?
No, no, I mean, it depends on what your goals are.
Every goal is different, you know.
If you have a goal to get big, goal to get girls, goal to get cash, all that requires different inputs.
So, generally, no, I don't have a program.
Okay.
Okay.
Um, so uh, one of my long-term goals is to get married, and it I've come to the conclusion that like really religious, conservative women are really the only option holistically.
And uh, I understand that, like, getting involved in like some sort of Christian organization would probably be the best option, obviously, in like the United States.
And um, the thing is, I don't really like a lot of things about Christianity, um, but what I struggle with is like modern Christianity today, at least in America, it just seems so fake, you know, and it just seems like if you ever, I don't know if you ever attended, you know, like a Protestant service nowadays.
No, I'm not like trying to be the Christian church is cucked beyond belief, yeah, yeah.
Problem is, if the church is cucked, that means the people who go to that church have cucked ideas in them.
So, your traditional Christian wife has very non-traditional ideas in her.
If, like in Washington, D.C., I saw last month, a lot of churches had huge gay pride banners outside, huge.
I'm like, Jesus, this is like, yeah.
So, what I saw was the gay, was the straight churches had gay flags in Washington, D.C.
And I'm thinking, well, the women who go to that church are probably not trad.
I mean, maybe they're, I mean, they probably have a Tinder account even.
I don't see now.
I'm not even convinced totally that church is the answer if the churches are corrupt themselves.
So, you got to find a non-corrupt church.
So, go to a service, you know, go to a few of them.
See, is there like a masculine priest?
Actually, there was a ROK article, eight signs, your priest is not an SJW.
I mean, that's a good way to start.
But if you don't feel good about what the priest and what the church is doing, what kind of woman is that going to attract?
So, you have to find the environment that if you want a woman who is pure, assuming that's even possible, the environment has to be pure too.
You know, a plant cannot grow if the soil is toxic.
And if the church is toxic, guess what kind of people are what's going to happen to the people in that church?
I'm going to start my own church.
How about this?
I'm going to start the Roost Church.
Oh, that's not going to be toxic at all.
That is going to be the most patriarchal thing in the world, and women are going to love it because these men are going to be strong as hell and masculine, and they're going to feel all tingly and excited because these men are boss.
Instead of these current churches, where the Christian men, especially the white ones, they're like, honey, let's go adopt some African kids.
I mean, there's nothing wrong with adopting kids, you know, and that's great.
You're giving these poor children a second lease on life, but it shouldn't be the default thing.
I'm seeing a lot of photos of white couples adopting various international children.
It's weird.
Yep.
Yeah.
You know, it's crazy because there's a few big Christian organizations that have normally been uncucked.
But like one of them I follow is the Mormon Church.
And I, I know a lot of people are Mormon.
And they recently cucked pretty hard on the whole SJW thing.
They started about that.
The Mormons give them five more years and they'll be accepting gay marriage.
They'll have a female preacher.
It's just, it seems like the Orthodox Christian church is the least cucked brand of Christianity.
From what I see in Eastern Europe, the Catholic version, no.
Catholic, I haven't seen good things about it, but the Orthodox brand seems to be strong.
I would try that.
Yeah, that's something I ought to consider.
I don't know.
I don't think there's very many in my area.
I don't think I've ever heard of one.
I think they've traveled pretty far, but that's a good, that's a good lead.
So I will try that, but you're going to have to shop around.
You know, I'm guessing you live in a city that's big.
If so.
No, I don't, unfortunately.
So you're screwed.
You are screwed.
Yeah.
But listen, man, this is such a big, common problem.
It's so common.
I get a lot of emails, calls.
Guys don't want to be like me and bang around, get banned from countries because of excessive banging.
But you want to find a girl that is good.
But problem is society is not good.
And human beings are a product of the society that they are in.
We're living in a, you know, what the what the Eastern philosophers would call the Kali Yuga, where really dark time for human beings, where everyone is just obsessed with their genitals and their bellies, where women just want attention and more attention, and men have to get roided up to get attention from women who rather receive attention than give it,
and who are satisfied by electronic dopamine hits instead of a real man, a normal conversation.
It's a rough time.
So, you know, I see guys that are getting married.
I mean, I read about it and I'm looking at his girl.
She's not a virgin, you know, like guys are getting married to damage women because why?
Because they fear being alone.
I get it.
A lot of guys want to be dads.
I wouldn't mind that too.
But when you reproduce with a woman who's not good for you, you're just kicking the can of this real big catastrophe.
It's coming.
It's coming.
It's just a matter of time.
So unfortunately, I don't have a big answer.
This is why my specialty is really at least allowing you to satisfy your sex urge, you know, to satisfy an urge that can maybe give you a simulation of love in terms of a mini relationship.
But this, I mean, to find wives in a time like this, I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it's pretty.
It's where there's a will, there's a way.
So if you have the will, then you'll do the right steps, but you just have to look.
Just keep on looking and don't buy the first girl that you see that seems kind of nice.
You know, unfortunately, what is happening is 10 years ago, maybe I would do an article that says warning signs, a woman isn't good.
And maybe 30% of the women you meet would have them.
Now, 10 years later, things are degrading to such an extent that an article like that is useless because every single girl displays every warning sign.
It's like, what is the point of even telling guys what a good girl is when they're not there?
Do they only exist in my imagination?
Is it a fantasy?
And I'm thinking, but it didn't used to be like this.
I swear that, you know, men of the past got to experience this.
I think, you know, I'm pretty sure when I was first going out in the late 90s, early 2000s, it wasn't this bad, right?
And I don't know.
It's like my mind is playing games on me.
You know, am I creating a fantasy or are women really getting bad?
And it could be a combination of both, but most guys I talk to, they say, no, women are really getting bad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think, I mean, I haven't dated in so long.
And I just, more and more recently, I just think I'm just going to put my head down and just work and work on, you know, basically, I've been in an extended monk mode for a long time and just keep going, you know, until I fill myself up.
But the good thing before I move on to the next caller is that there's always things don't always get worse constantly forever.
There is a bottom and then things bounce back.
So I think within our lifetimes, we're going to see a bottom.
It's just about, but if you're under 30, which I don't know how old you are, are you under 30?
Yeah, I am.
I am.
I think if you're under 30, you can hibernate for five years.
And maybe once you wake up and you wipe the gunk off of your eyes, something could be improved.
There could be a new niche or something like that.
But if you're over 30 like me, then a problem is that you don't have that time.
You can't wait.
Yeah.
So I think you can maybe, you know, work on yourself, hibernate and things like that.
But I am 39.
Let's just say if I really want to get married, I can't wait.
I mean, how long can I wait?
One year or two years?
So I'm still out there.
You know, I'm playing the game.
Yeah, granted, most of the girls I'm with are for.
short-term needs, but that's important too.
So I'm keeping my eye open.
Yeah.
Well, are you still planning on doing your tour later this year?
So I got to finish the book first.
Once the book is done, then I can start to plan it because I want to do a nice little lecture talk.
And so I got to make the talk.
So it's coming.
It's coming.
I'm working on it, but it looks like for the tour January.
So I don't want to say a date because it could get pushed back.
But the book is a monster, man.
It's just, it's 400 pages of game.
It's all the game I know.
I'm polishing it right now.
It'll be done in like a week and then I get ready to sell it.
And it took a lot out of me.
It's I don't even care if it sells well now.
I just want to be done with it.
So that's coming, I hope, in September.
All right.
Well, thank you.
I appreciate it.
All right, buddy.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
All right.
We got a super chat from a guy.
He donated $10, but I can't see the chat now.
It is, oh, he said, if you're, you and your friend like the same girl, I mean, you're going to have to pick one, the girl or the man.
And unfortunately, if the girl gets in between you and your best friend, that friendship is going to be over if he gets her.
If he gets her, you're going to be just full of anger.
You're going to be full of jealousy.
And that's a natural thing.
If you get her, then he's going to feel that way.
The best scenario is for neither of you to get her.
But if he's actively pursuing her while you give her up, then that's going to be a problem too.
So unfortunately, once you let a woman in between a friendship, some relationship is going to be hurt.
Okay, we got another super chat.
Nicholas Johnson donated $50.
Thank you very much.
I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Is there any resources that I can find?
A game-oriented group website.
Okay, so what's happening is the game is basically dying.
Most guys don't want a game.
It's too hard for if you're in the bottom 50%, guys are just going MGTOW.
MGTOWs don't really meet up.
They congregate on the internet, on some forums, YouTube, but they don't meet.
So you're seeing a lot of guys, they go to the gym, they have some gym friends.
But for you, I would go to the meetup section of Rooshvi Forum.
There's still men who meet there.
I mean, I, any guy who's active in game, he knows me because there's very few of us now.
We're like a dying breed, you know, because you have to understand that game was on the tail end of Generation X.
And Generation X, for all its faults, they didn't mind to work.
You know, they weren't, they didn't get raised in days of the internet.
I didn't have internet access beyond dial-up till I was in my 20s.
The millennials, because they were bathed in comfort, they have a less propensity to work for something because they were given a lot.
And now with apps, they just want to click something.
Food comes to them.
Dates come to them.
So game is really a dying art.
If you still want to practice game, you're going to have to find a niche group.
I think my forum is the best one.
There's no other group of men that are still as active in the game as if it was 20 years ago.
You know, I know there's some other groups like RSD, but I don't approve of their teachings and think they're too focused on the money.
So that's what I would do.
Zerus said game is not dead.
You can always game without giving a fuck.
Well, that's game.
Not caring, unless you naturally don't care, is game.
Game is when you apply some psychological or behavioral trait to increase the amount of attraction that you get from the opposite sex.
So if you're saying I have to not give a fuck with her to get her into bed, that is what game is.
I mean, it doesn't have to be my kind of game.
It doesn't have to be game from me, but it is game.
The word game reflects things you do to affect the attraction level of the woman that you want to be with.
And Nicholas Johnson donates another $20.
Thanks for the reply.
Anytime.
Anytime.
Thank you again.
Okay.
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Hello, Caller.
You're now live.
Hey, Ruth, I'm Jacob from Germany.
Thanks for watching what we're doing.
Great.
You're a man among men, and everything that you do is a light in the darkness for many men out there, especially for people like me.
Thank you.
And I wanted to tell you, it's hard for me to tell you that, but I'm going to do it.
I'm one of those guys that the media calls disgusting insales.
And in contrast to the media's narratives, I'm actually trying my hardest to actually succeed.
Like I tried to lose weight, got good clothes, tried game for years and years on end.
But the problem is at the end of the day that I suffer from Asperger's syndrome.
So I really come across as really awkward.
So when I try to game in social circle or like direct approach, it always automatically fails.
And then when I try the other approach, of course, like online game, I get basically zero matches here in Germany.
But now what I found out, also thanks to your form, and that's how I really found out about you, is that there are people who are traveling around the world to get better results elsewhere.
So my question is, should I actually do that and do what I found out with Tinder and travel to Southeast Asia and try to be there for a couple of weeks to try out my luck there?
Okay, that's a good idea for me.
Let's take a couple steps back.
Let me understand your situation.
Now, what is your age?
Like you're roughly...
I'm 20.
I'm 20.
I'm 25.
25.
And what is your height and weight?
You don't have to give exactly a rough approximation.
174 and I'm like 75 kilos.
Well, so 174 for the, for my American.
I'm five.
In American, I'm 5'8.
5'8.
Okay.
So now when you walk around in your town, do women give you eye contact?
No.
Okay.
So how about the women that are really ugly?
Do you ever make eye contact with really ugly girls?
I try to, but they don't really.
So no girl gives you anything.
Nothing.
Not even like a grandma?
No.
Not really any positive or sexual.
No, no, I'm not saying a positive.
I'm not saying positive, but just making eye contact with you.
Like you're walking in a half a second, even.
Yeah, but not prolonged.
I can't tell.
Okay.
I know that something's going on.
Okay.
Okay.
Now, ideally, we would all want the prolonged three-second eye contact capped off with a big smile.
That's the ideal case.
And I like that.
But we start small.
So you start at the bottom.
At a scale of one to 10, start with the girls who are like a two.
Start to look at them.
Do they make eye contact with you?
If they do, approach them.
When you are achieving no success from cold approaches, you have to make, instead of doing more cold approaches, you have to do less.
You have to do less approaches on girls who recognize you exist in the moment before you go up to them.
So in your town, before you even hit the road, I would advise you to focus on girls.
It doesn't matter how ugly they are.
We have to start somewhere on girls who give you eye contact.
Then you approach them.
Your goal is just to start to get used to the level of conversation on how it works.
Because I know you said you have social awkwardness, but hey, even when I started approaching girls, I had a lot of problems too.
It's not easy.
You know, it takes a lot of practice.
So step one, start with girls who give you eye contact.
Because even if you're, let's say, a short guy, ugly guy, there's going to be a beast out there that is going to be like, wow, this is a good looking dude.
So we got to start small.
You know, a lot of guys, they're very average and then they're like, no, hot girl wants to bang me.
Like, dude, no one starts off in the game banging hot girls.
There's a learning curve to this like anything else.
So these guys are giving up before they even try.
So I would work on that.
It's summertime.
Go out for one hour every day.
You know, just look nice.
Just make eye contact with everybody, even beasts.
And if they give you half a second, just that's all that you need.
If they give you half a second, experiment with an indirect opener, where can I find this?
Experiment with a direct opener.
Oh, I saw you and I noticed you are this or that.
And start there.
Do that for about two or three months.
If you get nothing out of that, then you could start to think about, I'm going to go travel.
So if you're a German man, countries you would do well in is Southeast Asia and South America.
Problem of leaving before you get the vibe of game is you're going to go land in Southeast Asia and not know what the hell you are doing.
So I would stay first.
And you're a young guy too, so you have a lot of time.
Stay first.
Do what I'm telling you.
Do warm approaches first.
Once you get the hang of that, and you're going to notice if a girl gives you eye contact before you talk to her, the conversation is going to go way better, way better.
So that's what I recommend for guys that are just not getting a response because they're not in the top 50%, top 25% of good-looking guys.
It used to be that you, it used to be that you can be in the middle.
You can be average.
And if you cold approach, it would be fine.
The girl would be like, wow, this guy is coming up to me.
But now girls don't really care anymore.
They don't care that a guy is coming up to them.
So you have to bring the value.
You are bringing the value if you're approaching girls whose value is a little bit under yours.
So if you are, let's just say you're a five out of 10.
If you approach girls who are five out of 10, you're not going to get anything because girls who are five out of 10, they can and are banging sixes and sevens.
But if you approach girls who are three and you can make something work.
Now, you're probably wondering, well, I don't want to bang threes.
I don't either, but you got to start from somewhere.
Start from somewhere, build your value up over time.
Your value is built over years, not weeks.
Build it up as time goes.
Go ahead.
So, I got a question.
So, why is it that, for example, in Germany, over a period of one month, I basically on Tinder get zero?
Don't use Tinder.
Stop using Tinder.
You are not good-looking enough to use that.
Do not use Tinder at all.
But the thing is, it's just going to make Asia in the Philippines and Thailand.
They have like over 300 matches.
Like, what is the difference there?
Because of because in Asia, there's what's called a white god factor, where the white man is seen as a god.
But in Germany, you've been having that anti-white propaganda.
Like, if I go to Germany right now and I make my beard as long as my neck, I'm going to get matches all day.
Look at this.
And I'm going to say I am a refugee.
Holy shit.
I'll be getting laid so much on big German girls.
The thing is, actually, I'm not actually white.
I'm like actually Middle Eastern looking, like Armenian looking.
Well, you need to grow your beard out then.
Grow your beard.
Say you're a refugee.
What are you doing?
Don't present yourself as German.
Say you just got here.
Say you live in a shelter.
Say that you experience racism every day.
You know, and if that's that's what I would do.
You know, I and you know, don't speak perfect German either.
Like speak in broken German and your English is bad.
You know, because all German girls, they're on on the left.
They're far left.
So you have to go in as a refugee.
So would you even say that even though I get like zero matches with Tinder in Germany, even though online dating for me doesn't work at all, you're saying there's a small chance that I could actually make it if I just cold approach and do day game and stuff like that.
But to me, it seems so like implausible that I get zero matches on Tinder.
Meanwhile, if I do Tinder in Washington, D.C., the kind of girls that I like, I don't get anything.
I won't get anything.
Nothing.
But if I go in a nightclub and look all right and approach five or ten, I will get something out of that.
Tinder is just an indication of how you do.
It's not a guarantee.
And for you, what's more important is to understand game before you travel.
If you travel before understanding game and how to close, you will be in for disappointment.
You have to figure game out where you are first.
Even though, like, I've got already a few numbers of like you made up your mind.
So why did you call me?
Why did you call me if you made up your mind?
I just wanted to ask if that makes sense.
And but you changed my mind.
I really should try here first.
Spend the next three months doing what I told you.
Go out for one hour a day, approach girls who give you eye contact, then call me in three months.
Okay, thank you for everything, man.
You're the best.
Okay.
Uh-huh.
Bye-bye.
You know, I get it.
A lot of guys call, they know what they want.
I'm going to Asia.
And they don't want to listen.
They want me to say the advice that they already believe in.
But for his case, he's young.
His game is, I'm guessing he is a virgin.
He needs a bang in his hometown first.
Oh, see, now one thing is this, guys.
You have to understand.
Let's say a guy was a five out of 10.
If he did basic game in 2001, he would get laid with girls who were five and six.
Today, a guy who's a five out of ten, if he does basic game, he gets nothing.
How do I know this?
Because when I started a game, I was a five out of ten.
I'm tall.
That's all I had.
But my game was whack, man.
I was copy-pasting lines.
I was a robot.
I was a spammer.
I had a bad game.
But I look back.
I did all right considering that I was basing my efforts in Washington, D.C. If I ran my 2001 game today and look like I did in 2001, not as handsome as I do now.
I would get almost nothing.
I would struggle.
I would only, I would have to bang girls who are large.
So this is how things have changed.
Yes, it's gotten harder.
It's gotten harder.
Now I am in a city where my value is depending on which girl I meet, maybe a seven out of 10, 8 out of 10.
You know, if a girl likes a foreign look, the swarthy, hairy beast mode look, I'm like an eight.
So that means I can, I've had girls that are around the eight range here, you know.
But now girls, if a girl is a, is a six, she can date guys who are eights.
She doesn't have to date on her level anymore.
If she's on Instagram, Tinder, Facebook, she knows that she can get top, top tier.
There's too many men in the world that are really thirsty.
Oh shit, I'm thirsty.
I've approached a lot of girls.
I haven't helped.
But then we have MGTOW.
And thank God for MGTOW because MGTOW is causing a lot of guys to just drop out.
Thank goodness I don't have to compete with them.
You know, they're just dropping out.
So this is why MGTOW is like a release valve that it gets guys out.
I think MGTOW is a psyop on the white and Asian man to not reproduce.
That's what I think because it gets a lot of white and Asian guys.
If you look at all the guys that are going MGTOW, most of them are white.
It's some kind of, it's controlled.
Watch.
It's a psyop.
You don't Middle Eastern guys going MGTOW, guys like me, Latin guys, you don't see that.
You know, there can be me too every single day, and I'm known as a pro-rape guru.
I'm still out there.
It ain't going to stop me.
I just try to be smart about it.
But the way I see MGTOW is this: if every single guy in the world goes MGTOW, that means less competition for me.
I can still play the game in my 40s.
Wow.
I didn't think I'd be playing the game for this long.
All these good-looking Chads, even now there's MGTOW chats.
Like, yes, that good-looking guy is out of the game.
Booja.
I can get in now.
But then let's say that MGTOW dies, that its controllers push the stop button because all the MGTOW, they decide to shoot up people or something.
I don't know.
Then guys are going to be back into the game.
Who are they going to get advice from?
Who is in the game still and is on the cutting edge of game?
Me.
So either it's easier for me to get laid or I get the respect and esteem of men.
And when they support my work, I can continue my lazy lifestyle in the Eastern European shithole I currently live in.
It's win-win.
See, that's what you have to do.
You have to structure your life so it's win-win.
MGTOW does well, great for me.
Less competition.
If MGTOW doesn't work, if guys are back into the game, that's great too.
So I can do more live streams.
I can write books and do more talks because guys want the game advice from the guy who's been in it, been in it for decades.
Such a long time.
I can't quit.
So that's what I think.
Okay, let's go.
Next caller.
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Caller?
Caller.
I can hear myself, but I can't hear you.
All right, I guess you're not there.
That's a shame.
Okay, let's go to the next caller.
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You're now live.
Oh, hello, Roosh.
How's it going?
How are you doing?
And where are you calling from?
I am calling from Portland, Oregon.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
So, what is going on there?
So, basically, you know, the usual full of SJWs and a lot of communists.
That's right.
Portland is one of the worst on the West Coast.
Yeah, it's where that, you know, if you or the anti-fog guy got beat up by like a conservative.
Oh, yeah, the one punch.
Yeah, the one punch, man.
Okay, so basically, I have two questions.
So, my first question is that before I moved down to Portland, I lived in Seattle because that's the year where I was born and stuff.
And in Seattle, which is just as bad as Portland, I noticed that there were quite a few Chads and Tyrones that were with, you know, not tens or nines when it comes to girls.
So, why is that?
So, the Chads and the Tyrones, what would you give them on a scale of one to ten?
Like, I thought they, well, in person, I think they would be with more attractive women, but they were with a lot of bigger girls.
Okay, so wait, wait.
So, the good-looking guys were with ugly girls, or ugly guys are with good-looking girls.
Well, it's kind of both sometimes, but I noticed there were a lot of good-looking guys who were, yeah, with girls who seems like you know, they would be not with them.
I mean, yeah, because the sex urge is the most powerful urge in the earth.
Men will put their dick in anything as long as they get a boner.
And in the U.S., it's very common to see a guy dating down.
You know, men work with the supply that they have.
If they're forced to bang hogs to get that orgasm, they will do it.
Well, not all guys will, but a lot of guys will.
I won't.
So, but they have been affected by this whole politically threat culture.
Like, they've been talked basically who men for dating down.
Yeah, the chads for dating down.
No, because if they're because the because the boner is a natural instinct, the boner is not really influenced by culture as much.
You know, you're either attracted to a girl or you are not.
I mean, if you're consuming, if you're reading like fat girl porn, if you're watching fat girl porn every day for years, maybe, yeah, you'll get a boner for a fat girl when otherwise you wouldn't.
But the boner doesn't lie.
If a man gets a boner, that means that woman has something for him, some sexual satisfaction.
I don't think propaganda would work so much on a male, a man's attraction.
I think it could work on the race.
Like it could tell, like if you are bombarded with interracial ads, you would find it more acceptable socially to date.
You wouldn't have a social block like, oh, I can't date that guy because it's not acceptable.
If that's acceptable, then that block goes away.
But in terms of a boner, a boner is either there or it's not.
So I don't think it's been affected by cultural influences as much.
Okay.
So I guess my second question is: like, you know, would you pitch any good, like, alternatives to like when it comes to raising kids, when it comes to education, or is it kind of like you have to go straight up homeschool nowadays?
I mean, it seems like homeschooling is what a lot of the true conservatives are doing.
You know, now they're starting to push this tranny sex ed for kids.
A kid is eight years old and they're being told that gender is a fluid concept.
And if they want to chop their dick off, it's okay.
You know, I mean, unless you can stay on top of a school's curriculum, it's kind of a risk.
At the same time, a lot of us, I have, maybe you have, went through the public school system, maybe when it was not as bad, but they really pushed a lot of these blue pill ideas onto us.
But we saw the red pill anyway.
So your son is either going to be blue pill no matter what you teach him, or he's going to be bombarded with the blue pill, but wake up anyway.
But maybe like me, maybe like some other guys, they woke up in their 20s.
So you can't keep your son sheltered forever.
He's going to make impact with that real world sometime or the other.
He's going to see all these ideas and see gays and live in the city on his own.
What is he going to do when you're not there anymore to constantly shield him from all these toxic influences?
So, you know, I hate to say it, but they have to see it.
They have to be exposed to it because then you don't, if you shield him completely, what's going to happen when you cannot shield him anymore?
Okay.
So what about when it comes to girls?
Like if you have a girl, I would shield her.
I would put her in a cage, loving cage, until she's 18, then marry her off to the most conservative man you can find who can shield her too.
And I mean shield not physically, but I problem with a woman, man, is that a woman, their ability to see the truth is different compared to a man.
You know, a man can see all these opposing viewpoints and use logic to come up with the most correct reality, what's going on.
But a woman will be swayed by what's popular.
She'll be swayed by what her friends are doing and trends.
I mean, you can't trend, a trend will beat out the truth in the mind of a woman any day.
If you get something that's popular that hints to your daughter that she's going to get 1% more attention than believing in truth, that truth is gone.
So this is why a lot of girls who are now tread, it's because they get more attention being tread because the left is so full.
The liberals, all their feminism, it's just too packed with millions of women.
But there's an opening on the right.
There's not as many women.
There's a lot of guys.
So now she's thinking, well, I can be conservative, not really have to change my mind on anything.
Still have pre-marital sex, get abortions, and I get more attention.
So then you're going to see all these right-wing girls and think, wow, they found the truth.
No, they found more attention.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, thank you.
That was very helpful.
Great.
Okay.
Have a good day.
You too.
There's no such thing as a conservative girl.
There is no such thing.
By her very nature, a woman would never limit her mating options.
Conservatism, traditionalism limits her mating options.
She cannot sample the goods anymore.
She cannot receive as much attention as she used to.
No woman is a conservative unless the conservatism enhances her mating options, enhances her choice, freedom.
I mean, who is the most popular conservative woman today?
Lauren Southern.
I guarantee you, as a conservative, she gets way more attention from men, money, fame, everything as a conservative than being a standard issue liberal in university, you know, when she was just like every other girl.
And, you know, I mean, this is why do you, and men do it too, but men do it not for attention, but for sex.
There is male feminists, they're not feminists, they're liars.
They're just doing it to get sex.
This is why every single man who says women need more rights and rape culture is a thing is doing some raping because he is using that as a shield to get laid.
So a man will in public sell out what he believes in to get laid.
I'm doing it the really hard way.
I like to live life on hard mode.
Stephen asks, how many guys has Lauren Southern banged?
The world will never know.
Hello, Cola.
You're now live.
Yo, Rouge, I'm having some problems out here in Utah.
Utah?
Oh, God.
Oh, yeah.
So I live in a pretty small town.
So there's not many girls to talk to.
So I had to go on do some online game on Tinder, which is a pretty unfortunate thing to do.
Right.
I must say.
So I've got a lot of matches with some hot girls, good conversations, but the flaking is just ridiculous out here.
Yeah.
And say taking off it pretty hard.
So my friend and I decided to make a fake account as a girl to see how many matches they would get as opposed to me.
And also to see how if my books were up, something was up with my looks, or something was up with my game.
And so we did this.
And in one day, we got 2,000 matches.
What?
And it was just insane.
And all the guys on here had trash game, just all only said hey or hi.
And it was just ridiculous amount of attention this girl was getting.
We could match with guys and look at Tinder and just see messages come in, just scroll through.
You know, look, if there is an individual game that is rigged and Tinder is rigged, it's rigged for the woman completely in such a disproportionate amount.
I mean, a guy gets one match a day and a girl gets 2,000.
If a game like that is rigged, the best way to win is not to play.
I don't play Tinder.
I don't play that because it makes it way harder than going than doing it the old-fashioned way of face-to-face.
Okay.
Like, don't.
So I'm glad you told me this.
It just confirms what we already know.
But if a game is that lopsided, do not play it.
Do not play it unless you found some kind of hack.
I mean, I know guys now that are catfishing girls.
They're uploading photos to their profile that aren't them, that look like them, but are not them.
And they're just really cheating.
You know, they're cheating, lying out of their ass just to get that date, kind of like what a fat girl does.
Unless you got some cheat, unless you got some hack, some trick, you're wasting your time.
Because even you said, I mean, I know guys who are pretty good-looking dudes, but the Tinder flaking is obscene.
Like getting a match doesn't mean anything.
Getting a girl to write back to you doesn't mean anything.
It is such a waste of time.
I'm telling you right now, this internet dating is a blip.
It's a short-term thing.
It's going to go away.
Why?
Because this isn't sustainable.
What you're saying, a girl getting 2,000 matches and a guy having a good-looking dude not even being able to get a date, it ain't going to last.
It's not going to last.
It's going to be even worse when the Tinder, when the people who run Tinder, they're going to make it even harder for men.
They're going to screen all your chats.
They're going to ding your, it's called ELO.
That's your algorithmic score.
They're going to ding it if you're this race, if you're from this area.
No, it is not going to last.
I think you got maybe two more years out of it.
It's going to be a wasteland.
So I would say don't play that game, but you live in a small, a small town.
So you're going to have to figure out what you're going to do because all girls don't want to live in a small town.
Girls, good-looking girls, when they get of age, they go in the cities.
They want to have fun.
What girls are left in small towns, but the ones who marry their high school sweetheart, right?
Yeah, I totally agree.
I'm just here for the summer because I'll be back in university.
And just in terms of the Tinder thing, I would say I'm in the top 5%, 10% in terms of books.
And then my game is in the top 1% to 2%.
And I get plenty of matches, but the flaking is the real problem on there.
And if what you're now, we've had some callers in the past.
So what would you rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10?
An eight.
An eight.
Okay.
I mean, if you really are an eight, you know, because now there's going to be some people in the chat that says he is not an eight.
But if you really are an eight and you're achieving and you're having this problem, what's happening to men who are below that?
Yeah, that's exactly what I think.
You know, so I think what's going to happen in a couple years, Tinder is going to be worth it for the hottest one guy in a metropolitan area.
There's like one guy who girls are going on dates, like the best possible.
Because that's what this app is doing.
It's filtering slowly but surely, creating the impression that these girls can get that one top guy who plays for the NFL, you know, that they can get him.
This, what that's where it's going.
That's the end game of Tinder to where one guy in every city gets laid.
He is like an ancient Mongol emperor that has this like, you know, harem of a thousand girls.
And if you're a nine or lower, you get fat girls.
I mean, that's where we're going.
Oh.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't have any plans to stick out on Tinder once I get back.
It was just an experiment.
Yeah.
It really showed me how lopsided it is.
But, you know, I'm getting a lot of guys say, Ruch, I used Tinder last year and it wasn't that bad, but this year I'm using it and there's nothing.
Tinder, guys, it's not going to last.
Don't worry about Tinder messed a lot of things up because girls can order hot guys from that.
But it's getting, but when good-looking guys can get laid on it either, that app has to collapse in some way.
There's just not, it's just not going to work.
It's an app.
It can't work that only 1% of the dudes are banging 90% of the girls.
You know, we used to say, well, 20% of the dudes are getting 80% of the girls.
That was even, that was a little bit better.
But now it's every year, it's like moving higher and higher.
The standards are going higher of the women.
So, again, only one guy in every town is going to have attentions of all the girls.
So, I would just hang on.
I would just hang on, just watch Tinder die.
It's going to die.
Things are going to move to more like Instagram, but Tinder is going to die.
Well, I look forward to that day.
All right, buddy.
So, good luck when you go back.
Okay, thanks for your time.
All right.
Bye-bye.
The only use of Tinder really is to sample how you would do in another town, just to get a little idea.
Like the German caller, he said he was in Southeast Asia and got a million matches.
That could be an indication that, yeah, that country would be good.
But if you're sampling a few towns and the differences are small in terms of how many matches, then it's not probably not going to be a huge difference on the ground either.
Okay.
Now, let's go to the next caller.
This looks like a call from England.
Maybe it's Teresa May.
Teresa May is calling to remind me that my ass is banned from there.
Hello, Caller.
You're now live.
Hey, Roosh.
I just wanted to say digger, digger, digger.
What did he say?
Did he say something?
He said, I want to say what I don't know what he said.
That sucks.
He waited for an hour to say that.
I don't know what he said.
Okay.
Hello, Carl.
You're now live.
Caller.
You're now live, caller.
Okay, I guess that caller is gone.
I'll give him one more second.
Uh-oh.
I think my internet was out.
Hold on.
Let me try him again.
I was having an internet problem.
Okay.
Hello, caller.
You're now live.
Hello?
Yes.
Bruce, can you hear me?
Yes, I can.
All right.
I have a request for you.
Okay.
But it sounds like you're locked up in some kind of dungeon.
I'm not.
Okay.
Yeah.
Just a request.
Every time that Smoloco guy calls back, can you time stamp it and put it in the comments?
No.
Why not?
Okay, we're going to go to the next caller.
Smoloco guy.
He hasn't called in months.
Maybe he's dead.
All right.
That was kind of boring.
I have to close my door because I'm doing the laundry and I can hear the thing.
All right.
Let's go to the next caller.
Hello, Carl.
You're now live.
Hello.
Hello.
Can you hear me?
Barely.
Where are you calling?
Where are you?
I'm calling from Spain, but I'm on Indian.
Okay.
And what is going on today?
I'm on holy.
Okay.
Well, I visited here, Spain, to my first time doing my work experience for surgery.
I'm becoming a plastic surgeon.
Oh, nice.
And it was my first time to spend, you know, one year in India and certainly in Spain, outside of India, and seeing how the European lifestyle, you know, it was much more different.
And I want to know, Rush, what you think Indian men can do to pick up girls better in Europe?
Because I find that in Europe, there is like a hierarchy of, you know, of races.
You know, a lot of Europeans, I find Spanish, French, they don't like Indians.
We are like scum to them.
Even if we have a good job, we are educated, you know, and you know, we are certainly, I'm not certainly a loser in my country in India, you know.
And I went to a top university there, but here in Europe, I can't tell women don't even want to talk to me because of my skin.
What?
Well, so one thing I would ask you is, what kind of girls do you like?
Like, or do you like Spanish girls?
I mean, what country would you say has your ideal girl?
Well, I like good-looking girls, you know.
I'm not too fussy, but that's really it.
I mean, nobody likes fat checks.
Right.
Okay.
Now, yeah, there is more difficulty for an Indian man in Europe because there is nothing in the culture in Europe that says Indian men are attractive, good-looking.
There's no movies where the heart throb, the star is a male Indian.
Okay.
So this is what you have to work with.
Now, the Indians that do well in Europe, they tend to be more westernized.
They have a slight accent.
They dress in a modern way, a Western way.
That's they, you know.
If I can say something then, Rush, just one thing about that from that point, the issue is that I feel any woman, any non-slutty, trashy woman would immediately recognize if me as an Indian from my dad about are trying to act like a Frenchman, you know, dressing like a Frenchman and, you know, eating truffles.
But okay, but one thing that is going to help you is if you're good looking.
You know, it doesn't matter what your if what your race is, but if you're a good-looking man, there's always demand by women to be with good-looking men.
So are you good-looking?
I would say yes.
Before I had a mustache, I shaved that very Indian mustache in Europe.
Maybe you should keep it because if you stand out, yes, but it was more like you know, not very cool, not a very hip mustache, you know.
Okay, so what is your okay, what is your rating on a scale of one to ten?
I would say about a seven.
Okay, so if your rating really is a seven and your style is okay, it's modern, you have a nice hairstyle, and your game is good, you should be able to bang in Europe.
Maybe not in Spain.
Spain is tough.
Spain is tough.
You need to go somewhere else.
But let me tell you, tell me one thing here in Spain.
I see, I see, I see many girls in Spain and France.
And hello, yes, yes.
Hello?
Sorry, I cut out for a second.
That's okay.
I see many girls here.
They are with men who are uneducated.
They have tattoos all over their body.
They have no degree.
You know, nothing.
Okay, they're okay.
Wait, if you see what kind of men women are going for, that's the kind of man they want.
They don't care about, they just care about attraction.
Are they attracted to him?
You are thinking logically, like, oh, I'm educated.
Women don't care.
They don't care about that.
You can have a PhD from Harvard, MIT.
That ain't going to help you one bit.
In fact, it may hurt you.
So just get out of your mind that, you know, why aren't I doing well?
Yeah, no, it's look what is working and do what those guys are doing.
Maybe don't make a permanent change, but I mean, it's in front of you.
It doesn't lie.
If girls like attractive men instead of educated men, then that's the kind, that's the part of you that you should bring to the forefront.
I see.
I mean, maybe it is my name.
I should stop telling them my name is Gagandeep.
You know, hello?
Yeah, a lot of ethnic people sometimes adopt a more standard, like an easy name.
So, what is your name again?
Gagandeep.
Gagandeep.
Okay, so I would change that to maybe Gaj.
Hey, that's that's a cool name.
Hey, I'm Gaj.
Yeah, I would do that.
You know, see, now, step by step.
I really want to, I want to, I want to bang more chicks.
You know, this is the issue.
And well, don't we all?
I mean, we all want to bang chicks, but do the chicks want to bang you?
And it's so funny.
Well, why are you laughing?
Okay.
No, no, I'm very sad now.
You make me sad.
You make me sad.
Well, this is one of the best calls.
Don't fuck me.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Don't I go wait?
Look, my mother always said I'm very handsome.
I have very top degree.
I can get any woman in India, yes.
Yes, you know, just keep at it.
I'm sure you'll find a beautiful Spanish girl.
Just use the name Gaj.
I thought I want to.
We can, maybe I can tell one of the girls here, I want to run Gandu train on you, Kandu train, you know.
Oh, I know that train.
I've met some girls that have had the Gondu train on them, and they love it.
You just got to keep trying, man.
You just got to keep trying.
You know, you just got to put yourself out there.
And I'm sure you're going to meet her.
This maybe even today, I would hang up on me and go out there and talk to women because to talk to me, you're not going to get anything.
Okay, maybe, maybe I got an idea.
I tell them, no more, I want to do PhD.
I do pizza delivery.
That's it.
Yes, that's a good idea.
If you know how to make a pizza, that's going to help.
So you go start to make that pizza right now and let me know in a couple months how things are going.
All right.
Bye-bye now.
Oh, that was funny.
Okay, Gaj.
Gaj is going to call me again, I'm sure, some other time.
All right, we had some super chats.
We had for one from Afnam Aldasua said, Have a nice day.
Oh, have a nice Faye, Roosh, but I think he meant day.
Thank you, Atham.
Alex donated Norwegian money, 50, which is like $100, maybe.
He said, Roosh, you changed my life.
Good luck to you.
Thank you, Alex.
And Steasley donated $5.
He said, the Indian guy sounds like ugly feminists in the USA.
I have a degree.
I'm educated and nobody wants me.
Correction, like older feminists.
Because they think when they're 30 and they bang themselves around town, but they have a job that we have to like them after that.
Oh, that was good.
I'm sweating.
All right.
Let's go to the next caller.
Hello, Carla.
You're now live.
Oh, hey.
How are you doing, Roosh?
How's it going?
Doing good.
And where are you calling from?
Yeah, U.S., Florida.
Okay.
Yeah, I just want to talk to you about like I'm 22.
I'm trying to decide what kind of man I want to be and how I'm going to deal with life in general.
Like with girls, family, and life in general.
But I found myself becoming like less empathetic and I guess kind of angry.
Like I don't have any feelings for soft people anymore because I've been through some shit.
Please don't shoot up anyone.
Please do not shoot anyone.
I'm not going to go shoot.
I'm not going to go shoot up anyone.
I mean, come on.
I don't know you.
Come on.
I am so scared that someone is going to shoot up at school and then the media is going to plant like on a smartphone, ruchv.com.
Like, oh, fuck.
No, I mean, it's just like, I don't know.
Like, I can get girls, but I can't get the girls I want.
Like, I can go out and bang like four.
Okay.
And so then so then that means that in your town, based on the kind of game you're running and your look, you're like a five.
Yeah, I'm five.
So then you have to either improve your value, six, seven, or go to a place where that five magically transforms to a seven.
Those are your two options.
Right.
So what do you want to do?
Okay.
I think I'll improve my game before Matt.
So most of the girls, go ahead.
So like if you are a hard five with, you know, say you go to the gym, maybe some style changes, haircut, beard configuration, you can probably get maybe 6.5, you know?
So then you're going to, so then let's say you add a social circle element.
You're a cool guy in a group of people.
Now you can probably date on that level too.
So you're a 6.5 and you can date a 6.5 too.
One thing that's not fair in life is that if you're, let's say, a hard five and you can't go up, unless you become rich or famous or a casting couch director, you're not going to bang high.
And that isn't fair.
But the problem is now, thanks to the internet, you can see beautiful women everywhere.
Constantly, your phone is flooded with them on Instagram or on the internet sites.
And you see beautiful women constantly.
It's rubbing it in your face where in the past, hundreds of years ago, you lived in a village.
It was you and your wife Helga.
And she was beautiful to you because you don't see models.
You're living in a farm.
So this is the angst that it's creating in men.
Every guy wants a 10.
You know, I would love a 10 too, but the reality is that 10s have unlimited options to get the top of the top.
I'm not saying that you want a 10, but now, as I mentioned in the Tinder caller earlier, it's happening where the funnel is going up to the point where sevens can aim high.
Soon, sixes can aim high.
And, you know, they're all wanting that top guy and they're willing to wait it out.
Yeah.
So, for you, so I think you know, whatever media you're consuming that makes you feel like shit, I want a hotter girl, you got to cut that out, you know, because that is just making the unfairness of it and rubbing it into your face.
If you want to fight it, you can try to fight it.
You can go into like a shithole town in Asia, you know, you can learn languages, spend years traveling if you don't want to accept it.
Okay, yeah, I mean, I was, I'm just trying to get a girl up to six.
I mean, I found her I liked her, but if you want a girl who's a try, yeah, if you want a girl who's a six and you want to have many sixes that you can date, you got to be a seven at least.
Okay, so well, from what I from what I've heard, she likes my looks.
That's a start, but I but I come off as I'm a group of friends, and the girls tell me I come off as kind of cold and unempathetic.
Like people tell me their problems, and I just don't sympathize because I was homeless before, and don't kind of hard on me.
Don't take the feedback of other people, even when a girl tells you why she's not attracted to you.
That's probably not the real reason why.
Because attraction is emotional, it's deep-seated.
But logic says, Oh, I'm not attracted to him because he's this or that, but she doesn't know why.
So, I wouldn't use that feedback, but just know that if your value hits a certain level, more doors open.
So, I would just work on getting your overall attraction level up there, and then you'll find that you know, girls who are within that range a point down is going to start to consider you way more often.
But you can't be hung up on one girl, man.
That's not going to work.
And if you were hung up on her, you tried on her and she said no to you, then you know, you tried your best, but you have to move on.
But I would say, I would think, how can I improve my value?
What are the guys in my local environment doing?
You know, how do they look?
Can I mimic that to a degree, right?
Yeah, and it's just about being a young guy, like trying to become a good man, like become an alpha guy, okay?
You know, like trying to be aggressive, and maybe you know, just going out there and getting it.
Like, that's what I want to become.
I just want your advice on how to be that way.
I mean, that's just improve yourself and collect wealth of collect resources.
That is like a that's like a tree asking me how can I grow.
It's going to, it's going to happen anyway as you live life, as you try to achieve your goals, you take this risk and that risk, you're going to become a man.
You don't need instruction from me.
The good thing about you is that you're at a bad age for being a guy.
23 is your value sucks.
Your entry-level career, if you have one, no girl really wants a 23-year-old guy.
My value, I don't think peaked, probably peaked because I was gaming much more is when I was around 32, 30, 33.
Like a lot of guys think, oh, 30 is old.
No, 30 is a great age, it is the perfect age, you know.
So, you still are growing into it, so don't feel down yet.
It's really going to get better as long as you put yourself out there.
Okay.
Well, I did cold approach three girls.
I'd had two turn me down.
I got one's number.
I think that's not bad, actually.
Yeah.
I mean, one out of three.
Yeah.
Most guys can't do that.
That's not bad.
So I think maybe you need to change how you perceive what is happening to you.
You may be viewing things through a lens that is far from what is really going on.
Like you may interpret things as way worse than it actually is.
I don't know if you heard the Indian caller who was crying.
He was literally crying on the phone about how he wanted to bang, but he couldn't.
I don't know if he was a real caller or not, but you know, I believe that some guys do that.
You know, they just cry.
And but we have to, once those tears dry up, you have to put the pedal to the metal and go out there and do what needs to be done.
That's what I'm saying.
You know, like I've become kind of hard and like the world's not going to sympathize for you.
No one cares about it.
Nobody cares about it.
Yeah.
That's why I've become cold, I guess.
So that's okay.
I'm sure this is a phase, but as long as you get out there, don't stay home all day.
You get out there and put and talk, talk to women, make some moves happen, and you'll grow out.
You know, you'll, you'll hopefully become the man that gets the girl that you do want.
Yeah, like when I was rejected by those two girls, I didn't really phase many.
I mean, now it's whatever.
Move on.
Nobody gets a shit.
They're just getting started.
I mean, 23.
Jesus Christ.
That was a long time ago.
I'm in college too, so that's kind of helping improve my life, I think.
But in terms of career, well, thanks for the pep talk.
No problem.
All right.
Bye.
Bye-bye.
Was that a swing that was in the background?
It sounds like a swing.
All right.
So something's happening with my internet thing where all my callers, my interface.
Oh, there it goes.
That was scary.
Okay.
Sounds like he's on a rusty swing.
Creepy as fuck.
Yeah, it did sound a little weird at the end there.
Okay.
We got another super chat from Samurai Squirrel.
He says he donated $10.
He said, Millennial Woese is familiar with the manosphere and thinks it must join the alt-right ultimately because by themselves, they can't change the law or accomplish change.
Do you agree or why not?
First of all, Millennial Woese is a fat gay man.
So I don't care what he thinks.
He's gay and he's fat.
I don't care.
You know, what does he know about girls?
He doesn't know anything.
All he knows is how to suck the boobs from all those women in the alt-right.
Anyway, problem is we're not trying to, I'm not trying to change the world.
I'm not trying to change policy, change laws.
I'm trying to change me.
I'm trying to do what I need to do to get what I want.
And when you take advice from me, you're changing you.
We're not changing the world.
That's politics.
I don't do politics anymore.
Politics may do me.
Get me banned from here and there, but I don't do politics.
Politics is for people who they need that power.
They need influence.
They need to change the world because they feel like they're not making a difference.
And that's fine.
Go to the politics field.
You can become the next Candace Owens.
You know, join Turning Point USA.
But I don't do politics.
I talk to men.
And whenever a man asks me something, I think, you know, have I had that problem?
How did I solve it?
I probably did have that problem.
I was a young man that wasn't getting the girls that I wanted.
I did a lot of crazy stuff to you know, solve that and in the process I was that tree that grew up and I can look back or look down and say wow, I've grown up, I am a man.
Finally I became a man at 37.
All right, let's see.
We got another super chat from Wandering Flame.
It's an interesting name.
He said, Ruch, have you discovered any hobbies, interests that guys have, which girls go particularly crazy for?
I have one.
It works insanely well with Russian Eastern European girls.
Okay, thanks for telling me P.S. More streams easy money for you um yeah being a DJ being a bartender being famous being an athlete throwing parties um being incredibly good looking those are really good things that you can join
neo donated two dollars ruch i look up to elliot roger is that a problem no that's quite normal that's quite normal and i'm just gonna have to put out a press release that if neo does a school shooting he i don't know him i don't know that guy okay let's take another call we're running out of time too hello caller you're now live
Excuse me caller, can you hear me?
Ruch yes, I can.
Hello yeah, and where are you calling from?
Hello yeah, caller.
Caller, I can hear you will speak.
Yes, can you hear me?
Yes, hello.
Oh man, you got to fix your, your setup.
Are you there?
Yes, i'm there.
You have to speak okay man, there's 800 calls.
How am I supposed to know?
You know, it's my turn, you don't?
You don't?
Okay all right now I, I can hear you fine.
So what is going on?
Okay um, I followed you for quite some time.
Okay um, I know that you know back really a long time.
RUCH bought many of your books and everything, great and um and, by the way, where are you?
Where are you calling from?
I sense uh, a southern accent.
Yes, i'm in Nashville Nashville Tennessee okay great yeah, so I mean, over the years, I did a lot of online dating and stuff and I don't know, i've probably banged as many women as you have um, hundreds really, and I kind of got a little bit older, so I wanted to kind of, you know, start to look for a, you know, a nice woman to set up, and I kind of know where you're at in life as you get a little older.
You've talked about that yourself.
But um, you know i'm trying to.
I'm having a hard time now with um, the type of women you know that are kind of around my age group, you know, in terms of the age difference, they're generally kind of, you know fat, Middle-aged women.
And I've considered going abroad.
I've looked into some romance tours and agencies.
There are some credible ones.
I know some of them are kind of a scam and stuff.
But anyhow, some of the ones that I'm familiar with now, I've done a little research on they've had over 80 marriages like in the last two years with Ukrainian women and things like that.
I'm just wanting your opinion on that.
See what you might think.
If that's something that's credible or, you know, I mean, the women are so attractive, you know.
Well, one thing I know is that if in the USA, a large age gap is not socially acceptable unless you're a really famous dude.
It's shamed a lot.
Oh, five-year age gap.
Oh, my God.
You know, of course, it's okay if the woman is five years older.
But if the man is older, I mean, it's tougher to pull in age gaps.
If a woman in the USA in my target age range of 22 finds out really early I'm 39, I might as well tell her I'm a convicted murderer.
I mean, she's going to run away.
You won't believe it.
So when you've had your fun, when you've lived and you find yourself on the wrong side of 30 and you want a young girl, and I think you should get an age gap of 10 years at least in the U.S., it's going to get tough now.
Unless you're living in New York City and you find a foreign girl with daddy issues.
You know, this is like, wow, I wake up and like, shit, in the USA, I can't pull that.
I can't pull that age gap anymore.
Maybe I can go 30.
It's nine years difference.
I've done that.
But in their early 20s, only in Eastern Europe have I been able to do that.
So now, to answer the second part of your question, going have using some kind of mail order bride or an introduction service.
Yeah, I'm just using the term that people know it as.
But, you know, I've speed dating.
And typically, the women that they invite, you know, they're screened and these women are serious and they're marriage-minded.
It's not like you're going out on the street.
No, I know.
But most of the guys who are hot, Rudy.
Of course, they're how do you think they get guys to fly all the way over there for them?
As long as this, look, as long as your expectations are reasonable, as long as you're not an idiot who can get tricked by a good-looking girl, and if you don't have experience with Slavic girls, they are the best actresses in the world.
They can fuck you up, man.
If you don't know what you are doing, they can fuck you up.
Yeah, hold on.
Okay.
And hold on.
And the third thing is, as long as you're not blowing your cash wad over there, as long as you're not spending your rent or you're not putting yourself in financial straits to try this.
But my advice to you is you need to know what kind of woman you are dealing with.
Don't just hop on a plane to Ukraine because I know once a beautiful girl gives you attention for the first time ever in the land of land whales that you may be in, you're going to, your logical brain is going to shut down.
You're going to be ready to marry her immediately.
I mean, because I've seen this, like guys, they're not used to good-looking girls, and then they meet one.
You can't.
You're not talking to one, talking 30.
You know, you got 30 women interested that are all seven and a half to nines.
And, you know, I make six figures a year.
So it's not like, you know, that's to go spend, you know, 3,500, 4,000 or whatever, you know, the flyover.
It's not that big of a deal.
You know, but I Listen to me.
If you want to run a marathon, you have to train for it first.
If you want to potentially marry a Ukrainian woman, you should understand them first.
This means taking your own individual trips and feeling it out.
What kind of culture are they from?
What is their character like?
But if you go, if you use this service and you're surrounded by 30 girls that are hot, and I know how they look like, they look damn good.
You can get fucked up.
You can get really fucked up.
I mean, you can marry a girl that you shouldn't, that you couldn't see the warning signs because your dick was just, wow, I don't believe it.
I can bang this girl when I'm used to banging, you know, chubby girls.
And you get to the USA.
And once she gets that green card, you don't know what's going to happen after that.
So I was just saying, train for the marathon.
You're about to run a marathon.
Train for it first.
That's all I would say.
But is this a potential solution to your problem?
Yes, it is.
But you got to know what you're doing.
It's not as easy as the service, which is promising you a lot.
It's not as easy as they make it seem.
Just be smart about it.
Yeah, it's five grand for the 10 days.
Listen, if you have the money, it's not the money.
It's what happens after.
It's the girl that you marry.
That's where being ruined happens, not with the 5Gs.
So just, I mean, what is stopping you from just going on your own trip?
Yeah, you won't be surrounded by girls, but at least test it out.
Just see how these girls really are instead of in a room of rich guys who are desperate to marry a hot babe.
Like, just understand how they really are like.
Right.
Well, I've been to Paris.
I flew to Paris.
France was, of course, but it's not a, you know, it's not Eastern Europe or Asia or South America.
I've even considered medagene, but, you know, it's, I just thought maybe it might be a good experience the first time, you know, to go in like a group setting with other guys that were similar.
And then you've got, you know, people that are, you know, kind of running the operation that are there.
Yeah.
They are running an operation so that you feel like you got your $5,000 money's worth.
Not all those girls are going to be sincere.
Some of them are just going to get paid to be there.
I'm not saying that you're going to fail, but I'm just saying it's creating a fantasy world for you that is not what reality is.
These girls, you have to ask yourself, why are these girls doing this?
You need to meet normal girls first.
I'm telling you, do a two-week trip first on your own.
If you like what you see, then consider an introduction service.
But if you don't know anything about Ukrainian girls, you've never banged them and dated them, and you're going to potentially marry one that you meet from a service.
I don't have any sympathy for you if it goes south.
I've actually lived with a Ukrainian girl for about three months, and then I've dated a Japanese girl.
I mean, I've, you know, I've got a good education.
You know, I've got a good business I run.
And, you know, so, I mean, I've a lot of fine women.
The women that I meet now that are really slim and attractive and fit.
What I find is they're mostly, you know, they're just about the money.
A lot of them have been divorced two or three times.
How do you think?
Why do you think a Ukrainian girl is at that, you know, male order bride party for love?
Come on, man.
Well, I mean, they're the same.
They're all the same.
They're just hotter.
That's the only difference.
They haven't had one single divorce in five years, Roach, out of all these couples.
And so they have over 80 marriages, not one single divorce.
It's like a family thing where people go on, they bring the couples on two or three years later.
Some of them now have kids.
Okay.
You want to be seduced by a beautiful girl.
Okay, then do it.
Good luck.
You don't need me then.
Well, I just thought I'd get your opinion since you've traveled all over.
I gave it.
I said, just know what you're getting into.
These girls are smarter than you.
They are smarter than you.
I know a man's ego, and you've had some experience with girls.
You think you are smart, that you can pick out a girl who's being fake.
Nope, they are smarter than you, way smarter, especially ones that have not been in the West.
They are diabolical.
They are diabolical.
I mean, I am impressed.
Like, if I mean, just know that.
You know, you will, if you don't know what you're doing, you will get burned.
That's it.
So I'm just trying to help you to know what you're doing by going there on an individual trip first, just to check it out before you enter the fantasy party of all these beautiful girls who think you have an 80-year-old.
Do you think Paulin might be better or what?
That's up to you.
That's up to the kind of girl that you like.
But I would do individual trips first before using anyone a service or something.
Okay.
Thanks, man.
All right, buddy.
Okay.
Bye-bye.
Yeah.
So that's, yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
Most guys who do those introductory services are above 45.
They're above 50.
Like, really, farmer Joe's who have zero game.
If he has game, he said he'd been hundreds.
If he has game, I don't, I wouldn't do that.
I would meet girls more naturally, as natural as approaching a girl on the street is.
But those girls that go to the mail order bride things, man, it's they, they, it's, it's not real life.
It's fake.
And unless you're really smart, like, I think I could go to one of those and spot the one that I believe is she's there because she got dumped at the last minute by some dude and not girls who've been in the clubs for years and years and intention whoring on Instagram, which Ukrainian girls love to do.
I think I could do it, but I'm not going to do it.
All right, guys.
So I have to go.
I have a plan.
It was good to do this live chat.
First one in two months.
And thank you for everyone who gave me a super chat.
I think we got, let me just go over two more.
Samurai Squirrel, he said, if over 30 in the U.S., should one go expat?
Depends, man.
That's a tough question.
It's worth a try.
And also, ZXMR05 donated five Euros.
Thank you.
All right, guys.
So we will do this again soon.
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