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Dec. 26, 2017 - Roosh V - Daryush Valizadeh
04:54:07
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Welcome to Mary Ruchmas.
And as you can see in the background, I have Arnold.
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So I hope everyone's Christmas is going well.
I got ready for my live stream.
I have two laptops and I have speakers and stuff.
It's more complicated than you really think.
And I have a mug.
I like her butt with some green tea.
So let's get started with the first caller who has been holding.
He actually called a little bit early.
He's been on hold for 10 minutes.
Let's bring him in right now.
All right, caller.
Yeah, how are you?
What's up, man?
Pretty good.
How about you?
Pretty good, pretty good.
So my name is Josh.
I'm a long-time reader of ROK.
Okay.
I love the fact that we're bringing awareness to men's issues and all the shit that we talk about.
But I have one concern.
As a man of Middle Eastern descent and Iranian background.
You were talking about me or you?
Okay, me.
So do you believe like, you know, there's been changes with ROK over the years and the tone and everything.
Do you believe that's, you know, a positive thing?
Because personally, I believe that's going to actually kill a whole men's rights movement, linking it to something like white supremacy.
You know what I mean?
Now, before I do answer, can I ask you, what is your race?
Well, you know what?
That's the thing.
I'm guessing you are not a white man, but you're not a white man, right?
Correct.
Okay, so why don't you tell us?
That's the whole point.
Because if you tell me what your race is, we can understand where your concern is coming from.
So I'm guessing you are a black guy, yes?
I'm a mix.
I'm a mix.
Okay.
Name, okay, so we have to, hold on, let me adjust this.
So I can see that a lot of people don't like some of the articles or the tone on Return of Kings in the sense that it does show that, yes, there is some kind of leftist movement to marginalize whites.
And some of these commenters, they do go a little bit full retard and they're talking about Hitler and Nazis.
But you have to understand that these comments are not moderated extremely heavily like they are on the forum.
So yeah, you're seeing it, but it's not that I am posting them or condoning them.
You know, this is, it's like the comments on ROK is like the wild West.
It's really, it's not moderated as much.
Now, do I enjoy those?
No, I do ban a lot of people, but you have to understand that the heavy traffic that Returning Kings gets, you can't really moderate such an open commenting type of deal there.
So that's what, but I do understand, like, yeah, if you're not a white guy and you're going into the Return to Kings comments.
Well, how do you know that, though?
How do you know that if you were a white guy, that those comments may be something that, okay, you can at least not get upset about this?
Again, I've been a long time reader.
So you sort of started off on a different note, and it kind of shifted a little bit towards a different direction.
And I think a lot of the articles sometimes are race-based, where it just automatically opens up the flip gig for certain kinds of people.
You know what I mean?
I think there's a lot of people that can appreciate what the work that you're trying to do and all the commentators.
But I don't think this, you know, white supremacist hate movement is beneficial for the RK movement.
I mean, they're going to just put it on CNN and they're going to just kill us and that's the whole movement.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I'm not.
Listen.
No, no, listen, listen.
I'm not a part of a movement.
Earlier, you said we're a part of the men's rights movement.
I'm not a part of that, man.
I'm a part of the Rouge movement.
I just do what I like to do.
I share the ideas that are based on truth that I like.
Now, if you like everything I say, that's going to be kind of weird.
So I expect you to not agree with everything that I say.
And it's clear that you don't.
And that's fine.
But is Returning Kings going to be your own personal website where you agree with everything and you can share with all the friends that you know?
No way.
There is no way.
So, I mean, if I were you, I would read the headlines.
If it's a headline of an article that you like, then you read it.
If you want to leave a comment, fine.
But if you see, okay, if you say, hey, this headline is going to be talking about Jews and white people and so on, and then don't go in it.
Don't go in it.
You know, you are an adult and you can choose.
You make a good point.
You make a good point, but that's not my main concern.
My goal, or hopefully, is for all these issues that are affecting men, men in general in the U.S., is for it to become mainstream.
Oh, wait, okay, that's not my own goal.
Wait, wait.
That's don't use me.
No, no, no, no.
Don't use me and my websites to further your own goals.
You have your own goals.
I wish you the best of luck in achieving them.
But don't get upset at me when the goals that I'm doing don't appeal to you.
Don't make me your useful idiot.
Well, Lizon, you're pretty much the, you know, you're pretty much as far as a lot of the issues that are going on, this is one of the websites that's pretty much out there consistently putting out new information.
Right down to the Star Wars social justice bullshit going on.
That's some shit that fucking annoys me.
Excuse my language.
But, you know, I see II in that.
And I see II in a many of the things that you seem to be concerned about and a lot of the other writers.
But as I mentioned, just in terms of, I think the goal of all of us is for there to be some change.
Okay, listen, listen, listen.
Take from whatever I write, take what you can from it.
Share the ideas that you want others to enjoy.
But please don't think that I have to do everything that you like.
I really do believe whites are being attacked.
And if I believe that's the truth right now, I'm going to share that.
If there's a few dummies who go off on the Hitler angle, I don't care.
I'll ban them when I see them.
But other than that, enjoy the articles that you like.
All right.
So have a good day.
Bye-bye.
All right.
See, now we can agree to disagree.
Let's go to another caller.
Oh, so whenever you hear that ding, that means someone is calling in.
So we have a lot of callers.
Ding.
Okay.
Who's been waiting the longest?
Let's go to right here.
All right, caller.
You are alive?
Yes, I can.
Okay.
So, first off, I want to thank you because you're one of the most enlightened, entertaining guys that I've ever seen on the internet.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm a great fan of yours.
And I think you speak the truth.
Some people like it, some people don't.
Sometimes people like it based on their perspective.
But I like the fact that you speak what you feel, right?
That's what I like the most about.
Even though what I've spoken has gotten me into trouble again and again.
Yeah, but that's what it is.
I mean, people who speak the truth in history have always been the people who've gotten the most crawled.
It's always the case, you know.
Because people, the society, the system doesn't like what's being put out there.
But anyway, my most thing is that I was married for a while.
I got a divorce.
I was married to an American girl and back in the game per se here in the Midwest in the U.S.
And, you know, I've kind of gotten tired to a point where I find that average girls and below average girls who don't take care of themselves are pretty, entitled, daddy's princesses, expect to, you know, to get with a supermodel guy, right?
Who's also funny, entertaining, and everything else.
And it's kind of draining on the guy to have to go to a bar, get drunk, and entertain a girl all night and not even get to have sleep with her.
And even if you sleep with her in the morning, you find out that she's down to an autism, the makeup soft.
So I was thinking of moving to Ukraine, right?
Okay.
Either Ukraine or Eastern Europe, because I like when I was in Europe for I was there three times, and every time I went there, I found that I couldn't find sixes and fives.
I found more sevens or nine.
Okay, first of all, how would you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten that includes everything?
Your looks, your game, your status, everything.
How would you rate yourself?
I would rate myself as an eight because of the fact that I can make a lot of money.
First off, I work in a bank as a senior VP.
Okay, so you want a girl who is at least an eight out of ten, right?
You mean to say, do I get girls who are eight?
No, no.
You want, you want a girl who has at least an eight.
Right.
I have some bad news.
Girls who are an eight today, they want the sports athletes, the famous men, the rich men, the men who own restaurants and clubs.
The girls who are eights have a lot of options.
And you sound, even if you really are an eight out of 10, they don't want you.
They want a 10.
They want a man who is a 10 out of 10.
They want the Dubai chics who are offering $50,000, literally, to get shat on.
So what you're going to do, if you want an eight out of 10, you're going to have a long road of working very, very, very hard.
Now, not to say that you don't deserve an eight, but in this modern age that we live in, an eight is a queen, man.
She can get anything she wants.
So, then, I mean, yeah, you can go to a foreign country.
It will make it easier.
Uh, but still, to get an eight, these girls, even in a foreign country, an eight, still a poor one, has a lot of options, a lot of options.
So, you're going to go there.
It's still going to be a lot of work to do it.
It's not going to be easy.
The worst goal you can have as a man in 2017 going into 2018 is wanting a beautiful girl because a beautiful girl doesn't want one guy.
She doesn't want a normal dude who's honest and who has a good job.
She doesn't give a shit about that, man.
So, what you're asking for is going to lead to a lot of pain.
So, how do I make so because I think most guys like okay, so first off, I would classify, I work out a lot, so I'm pretty lean and I have a full head of hair.
I'm over six feet tall.
I'm well-spoken, I'm not boring, and shit.
But the thing that I find most is that, you know, as a man, I want to actually reproduce and I want to reproduce quality, meaningful kids, right?
And that's why I'm looking for a good-looking girl.
Like you say, I don't really care if she's uh if she's like ugly and she has a PhD in rocket science, I don't care about that.
I'm more into seeing how feminine she is, how beautiful she is, and how okay.
So, so I was thinking moving to Eastern Europe, maybe you know, I know there's a lot of scams going up there, maybe living there for maybe three months, work from home kind of thing, and try to secure a young, beautiful Ukrainian girl, maybe, and then have a kid with her in Ukraine and then move to the States.
Okay, so what I would, I mean, it's that's gonna be a long, it's gonna be hard because you have to go to another country, learn their customs, how the women are, their mentality is completely different.
You're gonna have to find a girl, go through that courtship, uh, then you're going to bring her back, and you don't know what's going to happen when you bring her back home.
And from all the from all the stories I've heard, you bring a Ukrainian or Russian girl back into the West, the consumerist West, she her mentality changes a lot.
So, uh, you know, honestly, can is what you're telling me can it be done?
Yes.
Have I seen it done a lot?
No.
Is it very difficult?
Yes, it is.
So, what I would do, the best advice, if you really just want a family, instead of wanting to have fun with beautiful girls, find a 6.5 who really cherishes you, who is the best that she thinks she can get.
She won't leave you.
She won't stray.
She won't go on Instagram and, you know, try to find someone else.
So that's what I would do.
I wish you the best of luck.
Okay.
Have a good day.
Thank you, Rush.
Have a nice Christmas.
Yeah, guys.
I mean, I know everyone wants a eight, even though he really thinks he's an eight out of ten, and I'm sure his value is really what it says.
It says it is.
Other women who are eights and nines will view him as like a six, you know, or maybe seven because he doesn't have all those fame points and status points and so on.
All right, let's go to another call.
I really hate that ding.
It keeps coming.
I don't know how to mute it.
Anyway, all right, let's go here.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
Merry Christmas, America.
Thank you for your wonderful work.
Quick question to you.
You recently mentioned in an article that DT has bottomed out, meaning that it's gotten so bad that there's nowhere more to go down.
So it actually plateaued or it's getting a little bit better.
Yes.
Is it possible?
Are there any optimistic news for us to think that other things will or are bottoming on, such as feminism, all the issues that we've been talking about, about society, women, and so forth?
Is there a hope for that?
I think as long as they don't invent a new kind of smartphone gadget that ramps up the amount of tension a woman can get, and as long as the obesity epidemic doesn't grow, as long as women don't get fatter, as long as they don't find a way to jam more sugar down these women's throats, as long as they don't do those two things,
I don't see feminist ideology getting worse because really feminism has moved into the kill whitey stage.
So it's mostly about white supremacy, white oppression.
Whites are bad.
So have you noticed that it hasn't been as like men are bad?
Yeah, we've had that sexual harassment thing this year, but it hasn't been as intense as I thought it would get.
So really, as they move on to the kill whitey phase, I think the women will at least bottom out in terms of how bad they get in terms of dating and so on.
Is there a 1% chance that they will say we're done with Instagram?
This doesn't cut it for us.
This type of attention calling.
We're not willing to settle for this surrogate, you know, surrogate attention.
We want to go back to where we used to be.
Or am I too naive to vote for that?
They will not.
I'm sorry.
They will not.
Because what do women value more than anything else?
Attention.
And Instagram is like free attention.
And it's so easy to upload a selfie and have all the thirsty beta orbiters say, oh, you're so good looking, so cute.
I hope you're having a good time, blah, blah, blah.
I don't see that.
I mean, I think if you want that to actually happen, you need the internet to go down.
I'm talking EMP bomb.
And, you know, I know that sounds really weird and messed up, but hey, we live in a world that anything can, you know, happen.
Maybe Kim Jong-un will do something.
But unfortunately, I think the best advice is to accept what things are right now.
I don't think in terms of women, they're going to get a lot worse.
I am noticing this rise in the trad thought culture.
Women are sharing selfies of them making a pie and things like that.
Hey, this is the first time I made a pie, man.
And look, I'm taking a photo of it with my face all done up.
You know, I think you're going to see this kind of fake, I'm a housewife type of deal.
But hey, that's better than blue hair.
So I hope that answers.
Okay, buddy, have a good night.
Thank you, Rich.
Thank you.
Yeah, I mean, we really want to dream of this, right?
We want to dream that everything is going to get better.
And while I hated on the trad thoughts recently, I rather have a trad thought than a thought thought.
So, okay, let's go to another caller.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now on.
How do you do, Rush?
Good, good.
Excellent.
I think now that in light of the Trump presidency, that you have an opportunity to come back out from behind the computer and resurrect the men's meetup movement.
Are you trying to get me killed, Caller?
I don't think so.
I think that it is good.
And obviously, I'm not the one that's taking all of the actual mortal risk.
But in doing so, and having seen what certain other quote unquote movements are doing, like what took place in Charlotteville and with the free speech movement, that in Trump's America, the sun is shining.
And I think for men everywhere, and I will be standing shoulder to shoulder and or be there at the meeting with you, that it's time to make hay while the sun is shining because this opportunity, while glorious, is more than likely limited.
And if we don't advance, I know we already said that you're not advocating for any particular movement.
Your ideas are your own.
But if we don't advance men's thing, this cosa nosha, this thing of ours, while we can, we risk losing momentum under the constant onslaught of international so okay.
So let's just say that I do what you are telling me right now.
I organize a worldwide meetup and then there's an intense effort to go after my mom, my dad, people I know.
They're going to hack all my sites.
They're going to try to get the personal information of everyone who's on the forum.
What would you do then?
If they try to destroy everything, and if this meetup is looking like it will go well, they will do this.
So what do you do if you're me and they try to utterly put you down so hard that you can never come back up again?
Now, most people on this site might not be advocates of what Andrew England is doing with the Daily Stormer, but he is apparently facing that same crisis.
And look at him.
And look at him.
He cannot go out in public.
He can't even have a website.
He can't do anything.
He has to hide out.
Is that what you want me to do?
Hide out when I, because technically I'm kind of hiding now, but not so much.
I can go out.
No one's bothering me right now.
I still am on Twitter.
I'm on YouTube.
My websites are still up.
If I do what you're telling me to do, I would have to be just like him and basically be unpersoned from the internet completely.
Now, why would you want that?
Now, I say this, I say I wouldn't wish it on anybody, but obviously I'm advocating for it.
But that, I mean, you, you are in a special and unique position.
And unfortunately, either we weren't red-pilled early enough or we didn't have the drive.
I talk about the individuals that either listen to you or would have the inclinations that you had to write the books you did, to explore the realms you've explored with intersexuality, et cetera, et cetera.
We weren't you.
We weren't that person.
But I believe that we're moving into a time where, yes, Andrew England was unpersoned.
There's the potential for the next person that steps out to be unpersoned, but they can't un-person us all.
And if they were to see somebody, not necessarily you, but somebody of your stature, of your place, unpersoned, that just brings that hardens the hearts of more men and opens them up to red pills of abundance that we couldn't hope for any other way.
I will keep that in mind.
Everybody has to make that decision on their own.
And I understand.
And I will keep that in mind, but I will say that in 2018, I may plan a little something.
So stay tuned.
So thank you, Caller.
God bless you.
Okay, very good.
Yeah, guys.
I mean, listen, I will probably do a lecture of some sort, but the worldwide meetups, people are asking me, do I'm not going to do that shit?
Okay, they're going to destroy me if I do it.
And if you want to call me a coward, then fine.
Yeah, I don't want my life completely ruined.
Okay, unless I know I'm going to die or something like that.
Okay, let's go to another caller he's been holding for a while.
Good afternoon, caller.
You're now live.
Caller?
Yep.
Hello, Rouge.
I really mind the work that you do.
Okay.
Thank you.
I was wondering how would you rate the first year of the Trump presidency so far?
And how do you see 2018 the midterms going?
You know, honestly, I haven't been following politics that much.
And the reason I referenced that in a video I just did saying four things I learned in 2017, even if you get your political guy in there and he does everything you want, that still may only change your life by a small amount.
In the past couple of months that I haven't been focusing on politics as much, I haven't noticed a decrease in happiness, ideas, or so on.
So I'm starting to conclude that following politics so closely is really just a form of entertainment.
It's not something that's really making a difference because you're still dependent on other people to do what you want.
Just like the first caller who was really upset that I wasn't doing what he wanted to further his goals.
So in terms of what I think Trump is doing, I like him.
I'm glad he is in.
I think he's doing more good than not.
But is he going to change all the problems or improve all the problems that men are facing?
And most of the problems men are facing right now have to do less with being free.
I mean, we still have free speech in the USA.
Unless you're a big guy, then they'll try to shut you down.
But you still have a lot of movement.
They're not going to come on your door like they do in the UK, a country that I'm not allowed to go in.
But so keeping that in mind, and the best way to improve the situation for men is to improve their relationships with women.
And unfortunately, the president doesn't have that much power to change that.
That's more of a cultural thing.
So we have to take, I think that we have to take more of an individual response, more individual solution to solving that.
And in terms of what I'm seeing, what we can expect in 2018, you know, I honestly don't care in the sense that what is Trump, what can he do that's really going to change our lives?
Unless you think that he's going to do something.
I mean, I mean, I'm going to bring him to stop the telemetry, to crack down on immigration and stop the demographic displacement of the United States.
But see, even if you stop immigration totally right now, the birth rates of those immigrants are higher than the whites, that your country is still done anyway.
You can stop the flood today.
You can build the wall today.
No more refugees from Africa.
It's still, it's coming.
The end is baked in, man.
Unless you get white women to get off damn Instagram and Facebook and to marry a man instead of whoring their bodies out for free for all the sexy chads on Tinder, it's over.
It's done.
So while I see your point, and if I was tried and true American, then yeah, I would want the same thing you want, but I don't see anything that Trump can do.
One man cannot stop it all.
So thank you, caller, and have a good night.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, listen, I wish there was a magic man that can, that we can vote in and all the problems are solved.
Everything, you know, but I don't see it anymore.
I am so black pilled on this that, and it's weird when you accept that nothing can be done, you start making the individual steps to really improve things, at least for your own life.
So I think for better or worse, we have to take more of a hyper-individualistic route to get a little bit of happiness and joy within our local sphere and tribe as much as we can.
But worrying about the national politics, no.
All right, go on to the next caller.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
Merry Christmas, Rouge.
Thank you.
Hey, so I'm an Indian immigrant that moved back, moved to U.S. three years back.
Boring guy, but yeah, my brand is basically like even the cat women don't want us, although I'm working on myself, but it is so hard out there.
So what kind of girls are you going after?
like are they white indian asian mostly white women Okay, that is why.
Listen, I'm going to be completely honest.
You are a fresh immigrant.
You have a thick accent.
I don't know how you look like, but I'm guessing your looks is not above an eight out of 10.
White girls, even for white guys, white girls are very hard.
I actually just shared a photo of white guys and marrying Asian girls.
So for white men, it's very hard.
And as an Indian immigrant man, I'm sorry.
It's just going to be very hard unless you become a Silicon Valley god, which even them, I don't think they're getting much ass either.
If I were you, I would focus on your own type of girls.
I would see if you have any family connections back in India that you can get an arranged marriage to save years of playing the game.
Even for good-looking guys, they are wasting a lot of time chasing these hoes, right?
So honestly, forget about the white girls.
I just wanted to play the game in the U.S., but I'm getting ready.
Dude, it's not a game anymore.
It's like a monster.
It's like a serious obstacle course.
It used to be in maybe the 80s and the 90s before the cell phone.
And I got a feel of that in like 90s, in the 2000, 2001.
Girls would have a conversation with you, give you a chance, because they didn't have a lot of options.
So you show a burst of confidence and you could get somewhere, even though you're not her first pick.
But now it's brutal, man.
It's brutal.
Unless your value is really high as an Indian immigrant, it's going to be a waste of time.
I know, you know, maybe you find the white women to be beautiful and so on.
I can understand that, but you're setting yourself up for a lot of pain.
I would go after the type of girl that you can get, which is going to be mostly Indian girls.
Okay, I have a specific question if you have minutes.
Okay, sure.
Okay, hurry up.
Yes.
So whenever I go to them in a coffee shop or a grocery store, I see my old book, they don't seem to understand.
So I have to say it again.
So apart from improving my accent, which is a long-term thing, what short-term strategy should I adopt?
Approach Indian girls.
That's it, man.
I mean, if a girl is not understanding you, it's like me.
It's like me.
I'm going to a foreign country and I'm trying to game in their language and they don't understand me.
The only thing I can do is either find a girl who speaks English or improve my language ability.
Double down on your accent reduction training or something.
All right, buddy.
Okay, have a good day.
Okay.
Take this one.
Make this.
Yeah, I mean, guys, I totally get it.
You come to the USA land of honey and gold, and you want these beautiful girls, but they don't want you.
I'm sorry.
They don't want there's nothing in the American culture to value an Indian guy with an accent.
And there's nothing wrong with Indian guys.
You know, I hope that he can find a happiness, but we have to know what market we are in.
And the USA is not a market for it for fresh off-the-boat Indian guys.
Okay.
How is the chat going?
Okay.
I don't want to look at the chat.
The chat is a nightmare.
Okay.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You are now live.
Mary Ruchmas.
Thanks for all your work, Rouge, hanging in there.
You know, you're helping us all out.
So I'm an elite tech professional.
I'm considering two options: one for a foreign traditional woman or another option of an accomplished American businesswoman to help me with my contacts.
And I was wondering about your thoughts about the contrast between those two choices.
Okay, and your race is just get, call it a day by getting an Asian girl.
Just go to Southeast Asia.
Do nothing else.
They will value you.
They will love you as you are right now.
And they will take care of the home and so on.
Don't even waste time doing anything else.
I mean, if you really want to have white sons and daughters, you can try to go the businessman route.
But again, as I've told the other callers before, it's very tough.
So I don't know what kind of game you do have.
I mean, just having a good job ain't shit anymore.
So that's not going to really, you know, get gain much value in the eyes of the women.
But off the bat, without knowing anything about you, I would say lean towards the foreign girl.
Yeah, thanks.
I've got some game, but I don't particularly enjoy it.
I feel kind of fake when I do it.
I don't see it as more of a long-term thing.
It's kind of exhausting to keep up the front.
But any specific country in Southeast Asia?
I would start with Philippines or Thailand.
From what I hear, those are the two easiest.
Like you're just a white guy and you should do really well.
So I would at least, so I would do maybe a two-week type of trip, like an exploratory trip and see if you do like it.
See if the girls do love you for a long time.
And if they do, then you can go ahead and make a choice about how you want to continue after that.
But in terms of getting a white girl, I mean, you know, based on what you are saying, I don't see what advantage, like if I honestly wanted to create a family right now, the last girl I would use is an American girl, unless she had some foreign background, some kind of family values somewhere.
But just a basic American girl, man, that's, I mean, maybe when she's done sleeping with all her, you know, alpha chads, you can be in the in like the backup plan, but other, that doesn't really appeal to me, and I doubt it's going to appeal to you either.
Yeah, great, great points.
By the way, what do you think of the idea of each of us building our own local money business power instead of getting involved with politics as a way to try to save Western civilization?
Yeah, I mean, one thing I recently said is to construct your life so that politics doesn't really hurt you, that a new president, a Hillary Clinton being voted in, doesn't really hurt you.
Now, of course, there's ways for that to actually happen.
She could open the floodgates and then all the blue cities are flooded with God knows what.
But I think you could probably find a place to live in to the USA that has some kind of innate resistance to this, some kind of cultural values underpinning it.
And I'm talking about the western parts of it, like Montana, Idaho, and so on.
If you want to stay in the USA, I would just focus on you making a business that provides you with an income and connecting with local people in a good area.
And I think that's probably the best bet you can do to weathering any future storm that comes if, say, Donald Trump doesn't win.
All right?
Thanks a lot.
You too.
Bye-bye.
All right.
I mean, yeah, if, listen, if you're like a young guy, between 20 to 28, and you just want to run game and bang girls, I will say, yeah, just move to like a city, learn game, approach, approach, approach, have some fun.
You're going to sleep with a lot of different types of women.
But if you're already in the family mode, you're ready to settle down.
I don't think playing that type of game is going to get you much, you know, because you have to understand that game was never meant to find a wife.
Game was a response to getting laid.
Game is and has always been for getting sex from generally easier girls.
It's not made for finding a girlfriend, even.
Now, if of course you will get girlfriends from using game, but that's like a side effect.
Just because you're banging 10 girls, one of them happens to like you a lot.
But game wasn't made to find a wife.
So I'm not going to say, oh, to find a wife, approach a thousand girls.
You know, I would say go to a more traditional place and then you can find it.
All right.
Let's scroll down here.
A lot of guys have been waiting.
Let's go here.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
Hey, Merry Richmond.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I just want to let you know, Risha, I really appreciate a lot of the things that you've been doing.
The whole liberal versus traditional conservative narrative just doesn't work for men anymore.
I think When men try to get on the traditional conservative side, they're just setting themselves up to be sitting ducks.
Because the way the laws are set up today is if you get married, 35% of women are divorcing their husbands.
They get all your stuff, they ruin your lives, they take the kids, and then you get in the workplace, and it's the same thing.
And it's me, I'm 41 years old, and I've pretty much decided that this is all just a big wealth extraction thing against men.
What are your thoughts on that?
Now, what do you say to the man who wants kids, who really wants kids?
He wants an answer, and your answer is not good enough, Randy.
Yeah.
You're asking me.
Well, what I would say is that look at me.
I'm 41 years old.
I graduated from a Christian college.
And I didn't hear about a manosphere until a couple of years ago.
I thought I was pretty alone.
But every time that I thought about wiping some girl up, even a pretty good girl, I got alone to myself.
Tried to think clearly about what was going to happen to me and whether or not I had a choice and what my odds were of success without losing my shirt and getting ruined in life.
And most of the time, the answer was that the odds didn't look good enough.
So I never considered myself a mega towel.
I never even heard of Migueta until a couple of years ago.
And coming from a traditional background, I don't think that I come from a pickup artist background either.
But I think at my age, I can look at it and see whether you start out as a pickup artist.
I'm not saying self-described.
I'm saying just happen to be that way.
Okay, but look, but look, look, look, hold on, hold on.
It all comes to the same thing.
I think it all comes to the same thing.
You didn't really, but see, listen.
And the bigger you get, the more they come after you.
Okay, listen.
Everything you say is right.
The risk is very high.
But for some men, they want kids.
They want it.
And they don't care what the risk is.
They will minimize it as much as possible.
For you, the risk was too high.
So I'm going to guess your desire to have kids isn't higher than the risk that exists.
And I'm not saying there isn't any kind of risk to get married.
Even if you get a prenup, it's still high, right?
But some men don't care about that.
They're going to take a risk anyway because guess what?
There hasn't been many times in the course of history for men where having a family was easy.
Now, at least we know where the danger is.
We know what kind of woman we shouldn't wife up.
We know how to safeguard our finances, assets.
We know some things to look for during the marriage, which could be a sign that it can go badly.
We know how to hire a divorce lawyer who's better than hers and so on.
It could be expensive and painful.
But if you're a man who wants to get married, it is not, excuse me, who wants a kid.
It is not an excuse to say it's hard.
It's not an excuse to say I'm going to lose.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
It's not an excuse.
So this man wants an answer.
And saying that the risk is too high is not going to really cut it.
So I understand why you don't want to do it, but you're not giving answers for the man who do wants a family.
Does.
Well, I'll give it an answer.
I think what you have to do is you have to, at least in America, is you have to find a church and you have a church-based women who actually really truly believe the Bible, not anyway evangelicals who are actually feminists in the church.
And they have to look at the Bible where it says a woman is to obey her husband and treat her husband the way her husband treats God.
That's what it takes.
And you have to judge it.
You have to lay all those kind of things on the table and see how a woman reacts.
If she's smart off at you or disrespect.
Okay, hold on.
Now, I do think church is one angle, but if your church is cucked, if your church has a feminist pastor and spreading feminist bullshit, it's not going to help.
So anyway, I'll keep that in mind, but thank you.
Okay.
Let's go.
So I get it.
I listen, guys.
I know it's hard.
I know if you want kids, it's tough.
The odds that you're going to fail is very high.
It's high.
But his advice doesn't help any other guy, right?
It doesn't help.
It only reinforces other men who don't want to have kids.
If you don't want kids, that's fine.
That's fine.
You know, you can do whatever you want, but there's some men who do want to have kids.
And just saying it's hard, the risk is high, that's not going to help anybody, right?
All right, let's go to this caller.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
Merry Christmas, Roosh.
I'm going to take a lighter approach to all this, but currently, right now, I work 48 hours a week and I haven't had too much time to go out and do in-game.
I've been practicing, but I've been finding that I'm matching with online and meeting a lot of the same archetype girls.
Okay.
A newer term for these type of girls would be art code.
Because they're all art students.
Okay.
And I was interested to know what I can do differently to meet different types of girls.
Maybe buy a new outfit.
Change your look, get a new haircut.
I mean, yeah, if you're attracting the same type of girl, you probably have some kind of look.
So if you, it's like me.
If I have a beard that is long, I'm going to attract a certain type of woman.
But if I shave it and then all of a sudden put on suits and ties, I'm going to get a different type of girl, right?
So for you, I mean, girls are very, I'm guessing they are perceiving your look, haircut, and beard, and then putting you in a certain type of box.
Hey, but at least you should be, you should be thankful that you are attractive to a certain type.
But if that's not the type you want, I could see why that's a slight problem.
It is the type that I want, but should I continue double down on this specific?
Yes.
If it is, dude, if if it is your type of girl, then that's perfect, man.
That's like me.
That's like me saying, hey, man, I only attract beautiful women who are nines out of 10.
Is that bad?
No, it's not bad.
If that's your type of girl and you're doing fine, I would just keep doing that.
All right, great.
Okay, buddy.
All right, man.
Have a good day.
Bye-bye.
Yeah, I mean, shit.
If you're getting the girl that you like, keep doing it.
You're doing something right.
You know, I don't see what kind of problem this man had.
Okay.
All right, this guy has been waiting a long time.
Let's get him on.
Merry Christmas, Collie.
You're now alive.
Merry Christmas, Rouge.
How are you?
I wanted to comment on the second caller who, you know, I said he was an AI 10 and he wants an AI 10 girl.
And you correctly said that if you're looking for that, you're basically setting yourself up for disappointment and sadness.
And I absolutely agree.
Now, as far as game goals, then what would you say is the goal?
If wanting a beautiful girl is setting yourself up for like heartbreak, which I agree it is, what should be a game goal for a guy who's in his early 30s like me?
I banged a lot of chicks and I'm not like, I don't get, I get diminishing returns now from banging new chicks as far as like the pleasure I get out of it.
But at the same time, can't exactly find a wife.
Given the incentives we've talked about here and that you always covered.
So what's the middle ground there?
I would say, okay, in my game experience, I started a game when I was 22.
I'm now 38.
And I wasn't constantly gaming that entire time.
But in that experience, the only goal I think is worth it from game is love.
And I know that sounds like a beta thing, but love, if you really love a woman and she loves you, it really takes away all the shallow bangs and the notches and chasing girls that you don't really care about.
I think if you do find that love, and of course the love has to be coming from her too.
It's not you loving a girl and she doesn't love you.
But if you both love each other, that's a nice thing, man.
I mean, and I'm thankful that I did actually have that.
And it was a girl that I loved and she loved me, or I thought.
But of course, that did end.
But when it was over, I didn't want to go back to banging hoes.
And granted, I did that, but it made me think, man, that love was really a powerful thing.
Because now love is not just you get this orgasm.
It's a physical thing.
It's an internal spiritual thing too.
Okay.
It's like a fountain.
Love is a fountain that keeps giving and giving.
Even when the girl isn't in the room, it still gives.
But sex and this raw game when you're chasing hoes, that she has to be there.
It's like, unless your dick is in her, I mean, she's not going to give you, she's not going to give you happiness otherwise.
So, so, and, you know, I'm not going to say marriage is the end goal, children is the end goal.
I'm not going to say that, but love is a good goal.
If you find a girl who loves you and after time, you develop feelings for her too, that is worth it.
And if you're, even if you're a young guy, you're 25, I don't know how old you are, but even if you're a young guy, I would pause any game journey if you find this because you don't know how often it is going to come.
You know, if you're lucky, look, you're not going to love more than one or two girls probably your entire life.
And a lot of younger guys thought they were in love when they were maybe 18, 19, 20.
But when they get older and they really do experience it, they realize that what they had when they were younger was more of a lust thing.
So that's what I would say.
Yeah, okay.
But I mean, like you also stated, the game is getting harder.
I've felt the pinch over the last couple of years, especially within the last year.
And that's going to make it, it's going to raise the bar even more to where you can get that girl that is worthy of your love.
So it has edge 22.
So you don't want to ban chicks, like random chicks as much, but at the same time, there's a big gulf between that and finding a girl who's worthy of your love.
Because at the end, at the end of the day, the goal of that is a family and whatnot.
So you may as well not even go down that road if you're thinking that you can't trust anyone, which I guess I'm kind of somewhere in between those two.
I mean, so you are basically asking is how can we have this more noble goal in an unsustainable, unsustainable dating market that's going to complete chaos and where women, most women in their prime, don't want any semblance of a loving relationship with one man instead of thousands of men online who just want to sleep with them.
What do we do then?
Now, that is tough.
Now, you are right.
Game is getting harder.
Girls don't want love until they're older, or they only want it with the sports athlete.
I don't know what the answer is, but for me, the answer is not staying home and just giving up.
You know, even I had a lot of fun when I was younger, but and I'm single now.
I'm not just going to give up.
I'm still going to go out there.
If I get something, I get something.
If not, then not.
It's like put in the amount of work that you don't mind if you get nothing out of it.
So if that means one hour of game every day, seven, eight hours every week, and even with those eight hours a week, you don't really get anything except banging the occasional hoe every now and then.
You know, that is fine.
So only put the money and time that you're willing to lose to where at least you can say, I did try.
I did put myself out there.
I increased my value as much as I can.
But beyond putting that effort in, there's nothing else you can do.
You can't guarantee anything.
So, I mean, I can't give you that either.
I can't say, even if your game is great, even if you're approaching 100 girls every week, you're going to get something out of that.
There is no guarantee.
But I think, Chase, but I think men are so wired to connect with a woman and to love her, at least for the short term.
I'm not saying forever, that for me, at least, it is a worthy goal.
All right.
So have a good day.
Thank you.
Now, I do think that something separates a man who sees how hard it is and decides to continue on, and another man who sees how hard it is and decides to give up.
And I understand the men who want to give up, the MGTOW guys who just don't want to do it.
I understand it.
I don't agree with it.
You know, because I mean, what else are you going to do?
I already have a balanced life where I'm working, gym, doing hobbies.
I like.
I have some extra time.
And women, I like interacting with them.
Not all of them, but I like them.
Okay.
I think if you really like to be with a woman that you like, it feels good to just go and try.
You don't lose anything except an hour here or there.
You don't have to, you know, chase after bad girls with big attitudes.
You can say no to them, not get their number, not go on dates.
But I think there's a lot of men who either who want a girlfriend, want to experience love, want to family.
I know it's tough, but for the men who still want that, there are ways to do it, but you're going to have to sacrifice, you know.
All right.
Let's go.
There was a foreign number I saw from another country.
I think he gave up.
I should have answered him.
Okay.
Let's go to this guy.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
Merry Christmas.
Thank you.
I'm a long-time listener, and I really appreciate your insights.
It's really made a massive change in my life.
You know, I first and foremost, just wanted to acknowledge that and express my appreciation.
Great.
Thank you very much.
I also wanted to say that is 4C, I think.
Yeah.
And I unfortunately don't understand it.
But it means like, suck my dick, you bitch.
Okay, that's, you know, I think you would have to be kind of gay to actually take the time to learn that.
You know, you're like putting on this stupid, like, headache, not a like about traditionalism.
No, wait, wait.
Where did I say that?
No, no.
Okay, that's fine.
Like, self-hating, racist ass loser.
Racist.
Okay, so now you're starting to get into what your problem with me is.
Yeah, you're just a loser, man.
You're just some like, you're such a fucking coward bitch that you have to escape the country just because like people shut down your little like meetup and all that shit.
I left the country in 2007.
Yeah.
So, okay, hold on.
You waited, hold on, dude, dude.
You waited half an hour.
I can see how long people actually hold.
You waited half an hour on the phone to just say, I'm a loser.
What does that make you, buddy?
You waiting a half hour to say this.
Why?
Why are you that emotionally invested?
Did I fuck your girlfriend?
Like, I'm just trying to think.
I mean, there's a lot of people that I really hate-you know, people who are just disgusting people.
But waiting on the phone for half an hour to just say something in another language that you learned and say they're a loser.
What does that say about you?
And he's gone.
Caller is gone.
After waiting half an hour, what an idiot.
You can call me a loser.
I don't care.
But what's it say about you if you're going to wait half an hour, say I'm a loser?
Oh, you really got me, buddy.
Idiot.
All right, let's get another caller.
There's no, where are the, where are the female callers?
Are they scared?
Okay.
Who's been waiting?
Let's see.
Actually, you know what?
Hater calls are kind of fun, no?
That's actually fun.
I hope we get another one.
Okay, let's go to this guy.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
Hey, Roosh.
Good morning.
How are you?
Good morning.
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
Actually, it's morning for me.
I just wanted to say, dude, I appreciate everything you do.
And we actually the same age.
So we've kept on this personal development together, even though you probably didn't even know it.
And what is that I hear in the background?
It sounds like crying baby, or not a crying baby, but some kind of baby.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
So I hope this Christmas with your family is very good.
I'm going to hand him over to my wife.
Well, I said, Roosh.
See?
All this time, I've been kind of pursuing Kind of like stay away from the limelight, from the from the exposing myself, because like you probably realized yourself if you put yourself out there, you expose yourself to a lot of hate.
So, I've been personally more involved in personal development, not involved in politics.
I see what you write, and I agree with you, but I don't get involved more.
What I'm sure you learned is the reason why I wouldn't.
But now, I have a family, and there's just that I can't be isolated as much.
So, I was wondering, like, what do you recommend for red-toe families?
What do we do?
I know immediately it's dangerous, but maybe if you send it away with like red toe families, I mean, how do you call fathers?
Yeah, really, you know, I don't know.
I just can't be as isolated as I used to.
I see my need to be involved, maybe not in politics, just in the community, in the personal circles.
Okay, I would focus on if I have a family, I would focus on two different things.
First, on my wife, make sure her happiness attraction for me is as high as it possibly can be.
Make sure she's not getting involved with bad friends, she's on Instagram every day, and things such as that.
That's what I would, you know, make sure that the marriage is nice and strong.
Second thing, when your kid gets older, you know, just be a little bit careful what influences are coming into him, whether it's you're giving him your iPhone, iPad, whether school and things like that.
You may want to consider home schooling.
But in terms of what to make a difference, I would just focus on connecting with other families that are more red pill than the average.
Because do you really want to get involved into politics or you know, trying to be like a local activist or something?
That's just going to put a big X on you.
Oh, absolutely, Roosh.
And that's why I was thinking.
I mean, my suggestion is some sort of maybe red toe meetup because I don't know where else to find that.
I really don't.
I mean, you, I would start.
Yeah, I would start as locally as you possibly can.
I mean, maybe, you know, doing activities with your son, you meet other dads and they kind of share the same opinions as you.
Maybe they voted for Trump and so on.
So, I would focus locally first, small.
You know, it doesn't have to be based on the internet as much.
And other than that, I mean, I don't know if there is really much need to go online and to connect as much.
Maybe there's a bulletin board, a form, or something.
But I think, I mean, if you already have a wife and kid, you're doing pretty, pretty well.
And I think just focus on them and meet other men who are in the same area as you are.
And Rooch, and obviously, in our part, I'm doing well.
And thanks to you, man.
Great.
You know, you give us a lot of inspiration and you inform us with all these red co-information.
I mean, even though I've been involved in the very beginning, I mean, since the Roth Jeffries days, I mean, there's still a lot of contributions that he's made.
So, thank you.
Thank you for everything you've done and personal sacrifices you've made.
All right, man.
And I will keep on doing that.
So, have a good day, okay?
You know, it's weird how my advice has helped a lot of men meet women, have kids, and stuff.
And here I am.
All I got are pugs.
I still love you, Arnold, but still, Pug is not a real human being.
Okay, still got how many callers we got?
Oh, like 12.
That's okay.
Let's go to another guy.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now alive.
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
So just give me a call.
Just honestly, you know, to the competitive place, I guess nowadays.
And I just have to take any advice about women unnecessarily competitive and they're mostly manipulative.
So you're not coming in very well.
I can't hear you that well, but I think you said, what advice do I have for women who manipulate you?
Use the most emotional, use, you know, talking behind your back, take your head in the workplace.
Cut them out?
Cut them out.
It's a professional workplace.
Oh, okay.
Listen.
I mean, first of all, if you don't have to deal with them, don't.
If women, if a woman is talking behind your back, causing problems, just cut them out totally.
If you're at work and they're doing it, do what they do to men.
Go to HR, file an official complaint against them.
Take as much evidence as you possibly can.
But listen, you don't have to put up with anything a woman does.
You know, it's up to you.
So, I mean, if there is one, if there is a work environment where your boss doesn't care, HR doesn't care, why are you still there then?
Right.
So then you would have to just get up and find another job.
But you're not going to change a woman.
You're not going to change her from being less emotional and backstabbing.
So that's what I would say to cut them out as much as you possibly can.
You know, I've tried.
The real problem is that, you know, she's been here a little bit longer than I have.
But I've had more accolades working for the company, but most of the bosses.
So, you know.
Okay.
So then you are basically stuck, right?
So then you are stuck.
There's nothing you can do.
So you have to take it.
Right?
Unless you're going to leave.
Either take it, if the bosses don't care and they're letting this woman walk all over you, take it.
If you don't want to take it, then leave.
Find a new job.
That's it.
That's all that you can really do.
If the management, if people you work with, if the work environment doesn't give a shit about you, then leave.
Or you just kind of go and keep on taking it.
You know, I mean, me, how long I wouldn't take that shit.
You know, it's like you dating a woman who's not treating you well.
Fuck her.
You know, if you're in a job, they don't give a shit about you.
It sounds like they don't, then fuck them.
All right.
Thank you, Caller.
I think he liked that answer.
Okay.
Let's see what else we got here.
Okay.
I think this next caller is a woman.
That's what I think.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
I am not a woman.
All right.
That's that's fine.
Hey, Richard, how's it going?
Pretty good.
Having a nice live call-in stream.
Pretty fun.
Yeah, I just wanted to call and ask.
I'm kind of new to Rhett Bill Gary and game and like management and all that.
I came into your channel like this much.
Okay.
And I've been reading up on it.
So I've been looking at how to apply this.
Like, there's this girl that works at a band in a mall close to where I live.
And I saw her like last week.
She was looking at me and like she's smoking hot.
So I was wondering how I could like approach her.
You know, she works in a store.
How can I use red pill and like that new knowledge to approach her and be successful?
Okay, first of all, okay, wait.
First of all, the point of the red pill, it's supposed to take you into a model of abundance where you're not overly concerned on what one girl thinks of you or how to get her.
You know, one way that game came about is to take it from that model of scarcity where you're trying to get that one girl into a model of abundance where there's hundreds, thousands of girls.
So that said, has this girl given you a sign?
Has she given you eye contact, a smile, anything?
Yeah, she has.
I was barely at the store and she gave me like two looks and smile.
So then yeah, I have read up and like, don't focus too much on a girl, but when I take what I've learned in red pill, I usually like relationships.
I'm not really into dating a bunch of women, sleeping with them.
Okay.
So that's why I kind of like focus on her.
Usually, okay.
Usually when a girl smiles at you, that means at the moment she wants to speak to you.
But a week after that, if you see her, she may even, I mean, it could be that the window is actually closed.
So it could be kind of late, but if she is in love with you, the next time you see her, just go up to her and say, hi.
My name is Steve.
I just wanted to come up and see what you are like.
That's it.
And see what if she likes you, she's going to make it very easy.
Oh, hi, blah, blah, blah.
I find that the more a girl likes you, the less game that you have to run.
Okay.
You don't have to entertain her and all that stuff.
But if a girl is checking you out and smiling, just saying, hi, my name is Roosh.
How are you?
Will actually work, you know, because she likes you and the fact that a guy is coming up to her that she likes is is enough.
She's going to uh, aid you in the conversation and so on.
So, just so, the advice is to go up to her and say, hi, I mean, how else are you going to do it?
So you got to read your game, bro.
You got to read some game, because this is step one.
So go buy some books.
My book is really good, bang is really good.
Go go buy that, read it, go up to her, talk to her and if she keeps talking back, asking things about you, like where you live and what do you do, then get her phone number and get her out on a date.
Yeah, that was my plan.
I just wanted to see if like, there's another, any element from a refill I can.
No no, there isn't.
No oh, all right, call her.
Thank you very much and have a good day.
All right, if guys, if a girl likes you, if a girl likes you, it's very easy.
I mean, it is so it i'm starting to move into the model of only chasing girls who give me some some kind of sign, because I can't be chasing hoes at 38.
You know I can't be running after girls constantly.
All right, let's see what we got this guy's been holding.
Let me get him on Merry Christmas Caller.
You're now live hi Ruch, merry.
Merry Christmas, thank you.
Thank you, um.
I think there's deception being played on young men by some of these boomer feminists like Christina Hoffsommers um.
It seems to me that there's two different types of feminists.
There's the SJW or third-wave feminists who mostly seem to exist on university campuses and websites like Salon.
And, you know, those are the feminists who complain about rape culture and the earnings gap and male spaces that need to change to accommodate women.
And one of their goals, if not their ultimate goal, is to invert traditional sex rules.
Now, that's one type of feminist, right?
Right.
Now, there's another type of feminist.
And what differentiates them from the SJW feminist is that they think that men have to abide by traditional masculine norms.
And if they fail to abide by them, they remind them of it by using terms like soy boy, wimp, coward, a loser.
However, they don't think that women have to abide by feminine norms.
Basically, their view seems to be that they want to retain the masculine role, but leave the role of women up to the individual woman.
Okay, so what you're saying, okay, so basically we can boil down what you said to any human being with a pussy is going to shit on men in some way.
They can be old and young.
It's still going to happen anyway.
Because what you're really describing is all girls, all of them.
There's kind of, there's no such thing as a woman who is pro-masculine in the sense she wants men to be great because she only is doing that to gain access to other guys.
So where, okay, so what are you trying to get to?
Well, this idea is strange to me because.
I mean, okay, hold on, hold on.
Because we can't really get into the long-winded philosophical thing.
So just hit it right.
Hit me right now.
What do you want to ask?
Like, what is the thing that you are not sure about?
Okay, someone like Christina Hoff Summers or Jordan Peterson.
Okay.
They will say, this is my question.
They will say that women can do whatever they want within reason, but they have to take responsibility for their choices.
However, what happens if they refuse to take responsibility for their choices and blame their life outcomes on men in society?
What are you going to do about it?
Okay, listen.
It doesn't matter, man.
A woman's going to blame men if their life is not going right anyway.
Do you really care if a woman blames you?
I don't give a shit if a woman blames me.
She can blame me all that she wants to.
I don't care.
First of all, Christina Hoff Summers is like a grandma.
Okay, she's just in it for the money.
I don't give a shit about her.
I don't care what she thinks.
Jordan Peterson is a good guy.
I like him, but he's an older guy.
He doesn't understand what young men are going through.
So who cares, really?
I mean, I don't give a shit what the girls say.
I don't care that a woman claims she's a feminist and this.
I don't care.
Why does it bother you?
The basic idea is this, that men can fail at being men, but that women can't fail at being women because there's no standard of womanhood to transgress, to fail at.
They can't fail at it.
And it doesn't matter, man.
So what?
That's what they think.
Let them believe the junk that they want.
Why does it bother you?
I don't see why it really bothers me.
Because that seems to be the view, the type of feminism that is accepted by most people in society.
Well, it's not the same.
Listen, listen.
Unless you can counter that.
So make a website, counter it.
You know, red pill people one at a time.
You see, I am doing it.
So you can do it too.
All right, caller.
Have a good day.
I mean, I can't, listen, I can't control what other people do.
I can't control what a feminist does.
Who gives a shit about them?
Fuck them.
I don't care about them.
Let them bitch all that they want.
But I'm not going to wipe up some, you know, hoe or something.
Well, I'm going to try not to.
Okay, let's see.
Okay, we still got a lot of calls.
Let's go to this one.
Merry Christmas, Caller.
You're now live.
Hey, Roosh, how's it going?
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
Thank you.
Hey, this is a forum member, Blackfriar.
Okay, cool.
Just wanted to say, hey, I appreciate everything you're doing.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
I have had a massive change in attitude, especially the last couple months.
Everything that guys are talking about, you know, women, life, whatever, blah, blah, blah.
I understand that.
But what I wanted to tell people is life is what you make of it.
So when you start to think of things like that, at least to me, it changed my outlook.
You know, I angry about a lot of stuff.
Stuff doesn't get to you as much.
I don't really know where I'm going to go with that, but I just wanted to say, hey, happy new year.
Great, man.
Great.
Things are awesome.
I appreciate everything you're doing.
Keep up the good work and good luck in 2018.
Okay, man.
You too.
All right.
Thanks.
Man, no, it's great that we have sites where men and men only can gather and talk and share their ideas.
So men like this can learn.
You know, we share, I share what I learned.
I've learned from other men who've shared what they have learned.
And it's just a really great thing.
So by the way, the average call time is like half an hour in the sense of the wait time.
So if you want to call in, just put your phone on like speaker or something.
And okay, let's get this guy.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
Hello, sir.
Hello.
Thank you.
Well, I would like to, you know, thank you very much for the contribution to the red pillar officers.
Thank you for shifting my life.
No, I would like to talk about this like the approach to anxiety.
Okay.
The thing is that I think a few weeks back, there was a shopping moon.
I went there to practice the game.
Okay.
And there was this girl.
I have posted in the bookstore.
I was talking to her and she was responding.
And at one point, I asked her out, but she rejected me, told me that she had a finance.
So I told her that I left us to.
And then five minutes later, like two mall guards came and they started to worry about me.
Like, if I'm not talking to anyone, then I told him, yes, I was talking to this lady.
Now, where were you?
What is the country you are in?
I'm in Canada.
Oh, Canada.
Oh, that's okay.
Step one is get out of Canada.
But okay.
So the mall guard came up to you and then you said, yeah, you were talking to this, to this girl, okay?
And then they told me that she complained against me for disturbing her.
Okay.
And I was really frightened, you know, like actually, I'm just a college student and I'm new to games.
So, you know, it was like my first time.
So I was kind of like very scared, you know.
Okay, now look, you have to understand Canada is really toxic.
Canada is the most toxic anti-male country in the West, worse than England, worse than the USA.
And I have heard for years that they don't allow men to talk to women in shopping malls at all.
They, because, you know, I don't know why, I don't care why, but it is very tough there in Canada.
Unless you're a good-looking dude who is approaching girls who are on your level or lower, girls who want to talk to you, you're going to get fucked up.
Okay.
I'm going to guess you're not.
Okay.
I'm going to guess that you try to talk to a girl that was way better looking than what your value is.
Is that right?
Yeah.
She was, I think, around eight.
Okay, dude.
You just got into game and you're approaching the hottest girl in the mall.
What do you think is going to happen?
You got to start approaching threes and fours, bro.
You're starting game.
You have to learn it first.
You obviously are missing the experience, the social experience to know when a woman is not enjoying a chat with you.
So you got to start really low.
Yeah, everyone wants to bang an eight.
I do.
Arnold does too.
But you can't do that.
You can't go to a toxic anti-male environment in the shopping mall, approach eights, and think that it's going to be fine.
Unfortunately, it's not.
So my advice to you is to approach lower girls who are happy to speak to you.
An eight in freaking Canada wants a guy who is a 10 out of a 10.
Are you a 10 out of a 10?
No, sir.
I consider myself to be five.
A five.
So why are you approaching eights?
You got to approach threes, man.
And I'm not trying to make you feel bad.
In time, your value can go higher.
But if you're a five out of 10, you got to be approaching twos and threes.
Get the feel of game.
Make these twos and threes attracted to you.
Have sex with a couple of them.
Then approach threes and fours.
Do you see how this works?
It's step by step.
Okay, buddy.
All right.
Sure, sure.
I mean, I mean, look, man, if you're a five out of ten, you can't be approaching eights in Canada in the mall when they've been kicking out men from malls for years.
No way.
No way.
I mean, it's not fair.
I think if you're a nice guy, you should be able to go to the mall and say hi to a girl and like, you know, have a little chat.
But you just can't.
Those days where you can be a five out of 10 going up to an eight.
No, no, no.
Those days are done.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
Hi there, Roche.
Merry Christmas to you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Well, basically, I'll just give you an update on basically what I've gone through.
And then I'll just ask you for some advice and then I'll let you go from there.
Mainly, I'm 30.
I say when I was in high school, I was a bit of an omega male according to about stage hierarchy.
Okay.
And I had the juices of father that really didn't turn out too well.
But basically, my first two years of college at the end of all that, I was extremely socially awkward.
And all I cared about was getting access to girls.
And all I did was just care about girls, go to parties, and I got some results.
They just happened to be very inconsistent.
And I was kind of laughed at by half of my friends for it because it's all I cared about.
My grade sucked.
So basically, I spent some time out of the country recently and it was fantastic.
But now what I'm dealing with is I've got some credit card debt that I ran up during those really stupid, boozy, drunk fuck up years, basically.
And what I'd like to do is pull myself out of this hole and essentially become the best guy I can become.
Okay.
But if you're starting three steps backward because you didn't know where to begin when you started college, what do you do?
Because I know that I can get better at this.
I just need some, I need to get my sales correct, if you know what I mean.
It sounds like you have to solve your money problem.
I mean, if you don't have, if your money and income is not good, how can you really go and run game and comfortably have an apartment and spend the money that is needed to actually have that?
So, I mean, usually many guys I know they work on their money and girls at the same time.
You know, that's what I did.
I was writing books and making money off them at the same time I was chasing girls around in South America, Europe.
So, but if you chase girls too hard for a long time without focusing on business and you're making women this number one thing in your life while neglecting everything else, yeah, you're going to be entering a situation that's going to impair your future game.
So it sounds like you're going to have to take 2018 and focus on getting your money right.
And I mean, you could, I mean, you can run games.
I'll tell you, my living situation in 2017 has improved tremendously.
Living with a roommate now, saving a lot of money.
So yeah, basically, stuff's getting way, way better.
It's just slowly.
So I might have to take this entire year.
Yeah, I mean, I don't see why you can't focus on money and game at the same time unless you live with your mom and dad.
But shit, even I lived with my dad for a period of time.
I was like 29, and I still pulled too.
I mean, granted, I had to go back to the girls' place, but I don't see why one should forsake the other.
So I would just focus on that.
But if it's causing you some stress, anxiety, then yeah, you're going to have to fix that problem.
So that's what I would do.
It doesn't sound like a big, a big problem, though.
I mean, a lot of guys have some money issue here or there, but it shouldn't stop you completely unless you're in serious debt.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
I mean, I'd say it's maybe a few thousand dollars of credit card debt, and I'm just 30.
So it's one of those minor problems where it could get way bigger if I say solved at 35 versus 30.
But I will tell you, when I was overseas, that's when I discovered your forum.
And it really just got my head on straight because I was thinking, okay, everything my friends think is bull graph.
That's awesome.
Then I chose some new friends.
So I think I've got better surroundings too.
Okay, great.
So I hope 2018 works really well.
And have a good day.
Okay, buddy.
You too, Rosh.
Bye-bye.
Yeah, I don't see the main issue there.
I mean, yeah, you got some money problems.
So what?
All right.
A lot of callers still making a dent on this, guys.
Stop calling.
Okay, let's go here.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
Caller.
Caller, speak.
You've been waiting half an hour.
Come on.
All right.
Caller's been waiting half an hour, but he's not there.
I think he went to the I don't know, toilet or something.
So, we'll give him a couple of seconds.
I don't want to hang up on him.
Actually, we will come back to him maybe later.
Oh, wait, hold on, it's coming back.
There he is.
Yep.
Hello, caller.
Hey, Rush, no, buddy.
How are you?
Yeah, I have to unmute my cell phone.
So, I have a question for you, like, based on your last long-term relationship.
Okay.
So, one thing is, you know, I haven't been in a long-term relationship in a long time.
So, the question for you, what would you have done, like, in reflecting on that differently, that you would have kept that woman?
Is it like one would say that, like, keeping your pipeline open, that you keep doing criticism when you go out with her?
So, she can tell that you still have options, and the moment you have things otherwise, you can like open your, you know, yeah.
I was with a girl for over one year.
That relationship didn't work, and I had a year to think about why it didn't.
And everything I've thought about first, it focused on what I could have done.
What could I have done to make that relationship work?
I'm not a perfect guy, believe it or not, but really, it was choosing the wrong girl.
You cannot change a woman if she is not ready to settle down with one guy and submit to him.
There's nothing you can do.
Now, you can change a girl on the outside.
You can kind of, if you like girls whose hair is longer, you can get them to grow it out.
If you don't like girls to wear this kind of clothes, if you like a girl to cook a little bit more, that's fine.
You can change small things, but inner character that took 20 years or more for her to develop, you can't change that.
You're only one drop in the bucket of influences around her.
So, the thing is that there's, I mean, you can only change small amounts.
So, a woman has to be very close to what you want before you even think about it.
But if she's too far, which my ex was, she was just her belief system on what a relationship should be was way off from what I believed it to be.
There's nothing you can do.
Got it.
So, you can change the belief of thousands of men, but you couldn't change the belief of one woman because those men want to change their because those men come to me ready, they want to hear what I have to say.
They want to change and become better, smarter men.
See, it's because they are ready for it, they are ready.
But a woman who is in a relationship with you doesn't want to change, she wants the comfort, okay?
She wants maybe she likes you, she wants to sleep with you, but she's not ready to change her character.
Men who come to me, I don't change their minds, they change their minds before they even get to me.
Do you understand?
Yeah, I understand, man.
I've been following you for the years, yeah.
So, I didn't change your mind.
I'm just showing you things that you already decided you want to do.
You wanted to improve yourself, you wanted to get better with girls.
Maybe you wanted to hit the gym, you wanted to believe what the truth of life is.
I didn't change your mind, I didn't have to say, hey, man, you got to believe this.
I never did that to you.
No, you helped, definitely.
You helped me, definitely, definitely.
Okay, great caller.
thank you and have a good day yeah because look when a man comes to me he doesn't need me to convince him of anything Okay, he's already there.
He just really, the knowledge is already inside him.
The knowledge, the issue.
He just needs me to bring it out.
He's already seen what I've seen.
He's already experienced a lot of what I have experienced too, but he needs someone to verbalize it.
That's my only skill.
My only skill is what is inside me.
I can consciously bring it out and explain it.
So I'm really just a person who consciously explains what you already know somewhere, but you can't explain it yourself.
That's it.
Okay.
Let's see.
Who's been waiting?
There we go.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now alive.
Merry Christmas, Roosh.
Thank you for taking my call.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So here is my question for you.
You wrote an article a while back where you say that ideally the woman should be 18 to 25 and have a firm belief in God.
Do you still hold true to that?
I still am, but this is really just the most ideal.
Well, ideally, a girl 18 to 25 and who has a belief in God would make the most sense for a man who's wanting to start a family.
Now, can you go outside of that and still win?
Yes, I'm sure you, I mean, if you're a 40-year-old guy and you meet a 28-year-old, let's say who's had two men in her whole life, and you can verify that with a gynecologist examination, then yeah, that's fine.
But the point is, I wouldn't hold so firm.
It's like she's 25 in a day or something.
You know, I think we're just being as ideal as possible because really, I don't know.
I don't know who the perfect girl is.
I'm just taking as much of an educated guess as I possibly can.
So, but do I still look for that?
Yes, I do.
All right.
That's outstanding.
That's something that I certainly concur with.
And I was just curious to know if that view had shifted or changed in any way, but it's good to hear that it hasn't.
Really, that's all I had for you.
Okay, sir.
I appreciate you taking my call.
Okay.
Appreciate all that you do.
Thank you very much, and have a good day.
Okay.
You too, sir.
Yeah, I mean, on paper, we have an ideal of what kind of girl that we do want, but it's just an ideal.
We don't know.
We don't know if the next girl who comes to us, what she's like.
It's just a guess.
So we don't have to be too firm.
I mean, I'm not saying make exceptions for the woman who's had 100 cocks.
I'm not saying that.
Okay.
99 is okay, right?
But yeah, listen, I mean, we have a starting point.
And if we're going to go outside of that, we have to have a good reason why.
I mean, there has to be, she has to have a really strong benefit if we're going to sacrifice something.
Okay.
Okay.
Let's see here.
Let's take this caller.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now life.
Hi, Merry Christmas, Roosh.
This is Scotty.
I run a little blog online called smoleco.com, and I'm a big fan of yours, Roosh.
And I just watched one of your latest videos the other day called Three Things I Learned in 2017.
And I agreed with you on 90% of everything you said, except one thing.
Okay.
And that is the part where you got into politics.
And you said that really, you know, we can't change anything.
It's a waste of time to even get involved with politics or activism.
And to a degree, you're right.
But then you also mentioned that nothing has really changed since Trump has gotten to power.
And really wouldn't even matter if Hillary was president.
And I agree with you on that.
But the reason which you didn't input in the video is because one single problem always remains ignored and unsolved.
And that's the Jewish problem.
Every single politician, whether it's right or left, is owned by Jewish money and Jewish plutocrats.
And until the Jewish problem is solved, well, first off, we can at least talk about it and expose it.
And I know that you did briefly talk about it.
I have talked about it a lot.
Yes.
But other than that.
I mean, you run a business, Roosh.
I mean, you have to make money.
And the Jews, let's face it, they run commerce.
They run all the crowdsourcing platforms that you make money off of.
And I don't blame you for not venturing into that as much because they will ruin you.
But your favorite article of mine is the damaging effects of Jewish intellectualism and activism on Western culture.
And I do remember when you did publish that, the Jews came out of the woodwork and attacked you.
Yep.
And they were threatening you.
And so I understand you have a business to run.
You have to feed yourself.
You have to float yourself and you have to support yourself.
So I don't blame you for not going into that.
But that is the reason why nothing changes because the Jewish problem is at the center of all of our problems in society.
The Jews created feminism.
Okay.
Now, let's stop right there.
Hold on.
Okay.
I totally get what you are saying.
I'm aware of the Jewish influence on the West and banking and the media, Hollywood, all that stuff.
And then what are you going to do now?
So if you want to talk about it, you can talk about it.
And I have talked about it.
I have red-pilled a lot, tens of thousands of men on this.
And then what?
Unless you're going to, you know, pull some kind of, I don't know, Hitler move and try to get them all out of here, they're not going anywhere.
They are not.
So either you out-compete them, either you red pill everyone on them, or that's it, or you get them out.
I mean, there's nothing much.
So I understand what's going on, but there's nothing to really act on.
Unless you're going to work on constructing better media than them, constructing better financial institutions as them, as cutting their influence in government.
What are you going to do?
So, I mean, I can talk about it all day, but there's not much to really say besides what you're saying.
I mean, they have total control over the law enforcement apparatus in our country.
I mean, they're sending our cops to Israel.
This is the ADL.
I get it.
Bro, I get it.
Yes, you are right.
But then what?
What are you going to do about it?
You're right.
Then what?
I have one solution, and it's probably not going to happen, Roose, because the majority of white people are zombies that are brainwashed by the Jewish media.
What's your solution?
Violence.
It's going to have to take violence.
Good luck with that.
Okay.
Good luck with that.
I'm not going to do that.
I am a writer, a thinker.
I'm not going to be violent on anyone.
I don't want to do that either.
But I'm saying, the only way to dislodge the Jewish parasite from Western civilization is to organize a mass movement like Hitler did.
You have to organize millions of people behind you and be willing to die.
But that is not going to happen.
It's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen.
So you can dream about it.
I don't believe it is either.
It's not going to happen, man.
You can dream about it.
You can dream about Hitler coming back or whatever.
But you have to work with what you actually got.
Jews are in the USA.
They're going to stay here.
I think if you can't out-compete them or red-pill everyone on them, nothing's going to happen.
Don't even waste your, you're wasting your energy.
You're wasting your energy.
You understand what their influence is.
I'm sure you've told a couple people on it.
Hopefully in a calm way that doesn't make those people think you're nuts and crazy.
But the point is, there's nothing you can really do.
And honestly, I don't really.
I don't see how you can outcompete them when they control all your systems and your institutions.
Copy them.
Do what they're doing.
Do what they're doing.
How did they rise up?
How did they organize?
Do what they are doing.
You know how they work.
So that's what you got to do.
If you want to, you know, unfortunately, I think the solution was really not allowing them in in the first place.
But hey, that's something you're right.
Well, here's my question for you, Roosh.
Do you think Hitler was right about everything?
About everything?
No.
No, I don't.
I think, you know, and I think his idea of what the, you know, Nordic races are, but of course, he left an exception for the southern Europeans.
Like he, a Polish person was worth killing, but a romant, but an Italian wasn't.
I mean, he just kind of randomly, whichever country would ally with them, with him, he would make that race safe.
I mean, his race science was garbage, man.
It was complete garbage.
I'm not saying that white people should be killed, but I read Mein Komp.
The Jews put the image of a master race.
His science.
Well, and they seem to be doing a pretty damn good job of it, no?
So maybe they are.
Who knows?
But I don't agree with Hitler.
Well, thank you for taking my call.
And if I could just say one more thing, I'm scared.
There's way too many men are investing their time and energy and resources into women today.
Women have always been whores.
And, you know, find a passion in your life.
Find a purpose.
Find a mission.
You found a passion.
All right, buddy.
Have a good job.
Yep.
That's right.
Well.
I got waited 38 minutes.
But hey, you know, listen, there's no views that I won't actually talk about.
I can talk about stuff.
I mean, listen, I get it.
Jews control everything, but I'm not going to call for violence, Hitler stuff.
That's no, I'm not going to do that.
Oh, we got, let's see what we got.
My God.
But that dude was charged up, huh?
That dude was really charged up.
Okay, let's go to this guy.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now alive.
God damn, I have to follow that call.
That's right.
I'm sorry.
That guy was intense.
Please, no more Jew Hitler stuff.
Please.
Let's get back to talking about women, shall we?
Okay, please, yes.
So I don't know.
I'm having an interesting experience in that single dude.
I've got my shit together more or less.
But of course, you know, feminism is all up in my face, as it is anybody in the Western world.
So really, I'm not even sure I have a concise question right now.
I just wanted to chat for a minute.
Okay, I mean, yeah, I would love to chat for hours.
Unfortunately, we got 10 other callers that are waiting as long as you were.
But first, let's say where do you come from?
Can you say what general, excuse me, what general area?
Yeah, yeah, I moved from Southern California to the Midwest.
Okay, and has that been an improvement in terms of the girls and the dating scene?
Maybe a little bit.
I'm not sure how much I can attribute to the move, but I guess the overall idea that I want to present is like, I don't think it's very profitable to focus on, not that I'm saying you are.
This is me asking for help, really, but I don't think it's very profitable to focus on all these massive issues necessarily that we can't necessarily affect.
But it seems like just focusing on improving oneself.
I'm personally kind of giving up in the sense that I'm not too worried about meeting the perfect girl in that I hope it happens.
But until then, I'm just going to focus on making money.
Yeah, I mean, it's like that Michael Jackson song, if you want to make a change, look in the mirror and make that change.
You know, so it's like focusing on yourself, I find, seems to be the best way about it.
The more I try to change the minds of other people who don't already agree with me, the more I focus on politics, it feels like my power is going.
You know, I'm getting less close to what I want because I'm focusing externally, focusing on things that are far.
But instead, you focus on things that are close.
So starting with yourself and working on concentric circles out of you, whether friends, family, your local area.
So yeah, I agree with that totally.
So is there something that you want to ask?
Man, there's a lot I want to ask.
But I mean, it's just super frustrating when you are making strides in your personal life and you're improving yourself and then you don't necessarily see that.
You don't necessarily see the results with your sex life, I guess, or with women.
I mean, don't get me wrong, things have gotten better in that since entering the dating scene.
I actually took, I took a few years off because I got way into religion.
But now that I'm back, you know, with a revenge, basically, like, I don't know, I'm trying to let go of having expectations and just approach life and women and everything as just not having expectations.
And then it's all upside.
So one thing I have to say is that there is nothing in life that guarantees you will receive good just because you worked hard.
There is nothing.
There is nothing that says, okay, because you improved yourself in this and that, that you're going to get something out of it.
Now, mathematically, statistically, yes, you are going to get something out of it.
But don't be upset when life, nature, God, the universe doesn't want to give you what you want.
You know, that is actually an opportunity to ask, why do I want that thing?
So I would say, you know, you sound like a young guy.
You're probably younger than me.
So life is long.
And if there's something that you want, you're just going to have to give it a lot of time.
All right, buddy?
Sure.
Can I tell you a quick story?
I got 15, 15 callers.
So I can't do a story unless it's really fast.
Well, it is pretty quick.
So I went out with this traditional Chinese girl, but the cultural Marxism is just affecting all different corners of the world, right?
So I'm just not sure that basically finding the trad wife who's not on Instagram is really that realistic for going into the future.
I mean, everybody's online.
And so anyways, what this story is with this girl, she got a tattoo on her chest and she's just turned into, you know, more of a thought.
Time to find a new girl.
No, no.
You know, don't let a girl.
It's usually good if she comes from this traditional background.
But sometimes if you take a traditional girl out of that background and put her into the West, her real character comes out.
So you have to keep that in mind.
That this is why men say, hey, Rush, why don't you just marry a Muslim girl?
Because the Muslim girl is there.
Their faith will keep them in the home.
But look, if you want to marry a Muslim girl, you have to be prepared to live in a Muslim country.
Because what do you think is going to happen if you take a Muslim girl out of a Muslim country and take her to the West, to Europe, to the USA?
What is in her genes that will cause her to be different from an American girl?
I don't see a whole lot.
So thank you, caller, and have a good day.
Okay.
All right.
So there was actually a page two on my conference calling, and there's people that's been waiting a long time.
Now I feel kind of bad.
So we have a few callers that have been on hold for super long, like since the thing actually started.
So let's get to this guy.
I think he's going to be angry because we've been waiting a long time.
Merry Christmas, caller.
Sorry for that long hold.
How are you?
Hello.
Yes.
Am I in?
You are in.
Okay, listen.
I just have to say there was a page two to this conference calling thing and you were stuck there.
Well, okay.
Am I in?
I just want to make sure I'm in.
You are live.
You are definitely in.
All right.
All right.
Fair enough.
Okay.
Here we go, man.
I got a bone to pick with you, man.
Okay.
And here's the bone.
Go ahead.
The ROK meetups, they were a stunning success.
And on two reasons.
First reason was a lot of people like myself, we actually had to experience the violence from the left.
And we saw that firsthand.
And then on the second front was the press conference you had in the aftermath thereafter.
And we were like, oh, wow, that's how you fight back.
Anyway, look, I get the whole thing about how your family got docks and the whole thing.
And I get that.
And I could understand how, you know, you might have reservations about that.
And that's a cool thing.
And, you know, I agree with that.
Long story short, man.
Those meetups were very good.
Now, I think 85% of the meetups didn't happen.
We had our meetup.
Nonetheless, man, we appreciate what you did.
My bone with you, or the bone to pick with that I have with you is at the very least, I thought that you were inferring that the meetups were not successful, but they were.
And it just showed people all the things that the left had lied about, them being violent, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
At any rate, man, dude, you got to be much more positive.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I am positive, bro.
I'm positive.
It's more so positive about being like, there's actual facts involved with that.
And we saw that.
And even with the Charlottesville piece, I'm going to go off on a tangent, but like people exclude facts.
And I just learned from doing the meetup in my city, I saw how evil these people are.
So anyway, that's my comment.
So one thing is that I do agree with you that the meetups red-pilled a lot of guys.
It was a really sharp red pill.
And in that sense, it was a good thing.
But you have to understand that if too much heat falls upon the shoulders of one guy, I mean, I'm still a man, as tough as I like to see myself, I have a limit.
And if there's too much heat on me, whether it's trying to destroy my business, utter Excuse me, destroy my business utterly, Jesus, and also go after my mom and dad and so on.
I mean, do you want me to keep going?
So, I would say, if I hold the next meetup, can you gather a group of guys to guard my mom's house?
Well, let me say this: look, I get that because you got put out on Front Street, and that's completely fair.
And so, I get that.
But then, people worked on their own and worked through their email accounts and such, and they did that.
And we saw that firsthand.
So, look, I get that how you expose yourself.
And you know what?
I appreciate you for putting yourself out on Front Street.
And, like, that was like mad, crazy how Antifa and these crazy creatures came for you.
Dude, I totally get that.
However, when everything unfolds and they start seeing how the resultant tangible effects of the narrative work out, you know what?
You're not a casualty, and that's cool.
And, you know, I don't want to be a good casualty.
However, there were a lot of us who had the meetups and we met and we went and we showed up and we had a good time.
It was only five of us.
That's okay.
Nonetheless, man, we learned a lot.
Great, great.
And that was fortification for my red-tilling.
Okay.
I'm very happy that you did go and you got some value.
And actually, the bone you pick with me is a very small one, but I'm glad that you called anyway.
And have a good day.
All right, buddy.
And you do good work.
Keep it going, dude.
I will.
That was a small bone, huh?
That was a tiny bone.
All right, this guy's been on hold.
Merry Christmas, Call.
You are now live.
Sorry for the long hold time.
Good afternoon, Rooch.
Good afternoon.
Okay, I had a specific question, but a couple of comments.
Your first caller was concerned that you didn't meet all of the qualifications he wanted politically.
And I can say, I'm involved in politics.
I belong to a political party.
Most of the things my political party believes, I'm very opposed to.
But if you want to change the government, you need a party which has organization and power.
And I've taken the least evil.
I have chosen the best available.
And that's the best you can do if you want to see change.
And that's fine, but I don't want to get involved in politics at all.
I just share ideas.
If you, as a man, want to take my ideas and try to introduce them into the political spectrum, that's fine, but I'm not going to touch it.
That's good.
And about your ideas, for a young guy, you carry more wisdom and more.
I'm not that young.
You're a mere child compared to me.
And let me say that everything you say is of intense value.
And I've been reading your stuff for a long time.
And I appreciate it.
The minor criticisms you had today are mainly silly, but I could offer one other thing.
Okay.
You need 12 disciples, and each of your disciples needs 12 disciples.
You can't change the world single-handed.
You've got to build an organization at some point if there's going to be any change.
Now, you might not be the political side of the organization, but you're certainly the spiritual and intellectual side.
And Somebody out there should get started and carry your message broadly so that when you want to have a meeting of some kind, you've got a hundred thousand people to carry on the meetings for you and you don't have to be hurt personally.
Yeah, and you know, you know, I'm not sure that I really do want to change the world.
I just want to change myself and those close to me, those who want to hear me.
Because if you want to change the world, that starts to involve your ego.
You start to want, you know, this power in influence over others.
You want to change the minds of other people, but I don't want that.
I don't want to change anyone's mind.
I only want to talk to people who see the world in a similar way as me.
We can have a dialogue, just like how me and you are having one now.
But you're not a guy that I have to convince.
I have to argue with.
You are not a guy.
I have to use studies to show, hey, this is what the truth is.
I don't want that.
It's so draining.
It isn't fun.
There's already tens of thousands of men who see the world in a similar way as me.
I want to speak to them.
If they want to take those ideas and change the world in their own way for their own interests, that's fine.
But I like where I am now, just speaking to men who I see as an equal.
You're absolutely right.
And the last guy that took your position started off with 12 disciples.
That wasn't too big a burden for him to carry.
Use Jesus.
Disciples weren't all the same.
Well, it's just a place to start.
I have a specific question.
My problem is this.
I live near Toronto, Canada.
Oh.
75 years old.
75.
Wow.
Okay.
When I look at 75-year-old women, I see the same, see them the same way that you would.
You would say a 75-year-old is a grandmother.
Right.
I'm sorry, I don't want to date a grandmother.
I don't either.
And I have problems.
I'm not really excited about women over 40.
What I would be looking for is a 30-year-old.
Now, that is a problem.
Do you have any suggestions?
Are you a white man?
I'm white.
I'm in good condition for a second.
Do you know what I'm going to say to you?
Do you know what I am going to say to you right now?
Southeast Asia, buddy.
Southeast Asia.
Get your plane ticket.
Get the fuck out of Toronto.
Go there.
Thank me later.
All right?
I have to live in Asia.
No, don't live there yet.
Just go for a short trip.
Go for a two-week trip.
Just be open-minded to any experience, any experience, and then come back after that.
Then you can actually choose what you want to do.
But a 75-year-old white man in the West ain't going to get anything.
Nothing.
You're just going to get a grandma worse than that.
Go to Asia, take a two-week trip there, and then make a decision after that.
All right.
So I hope you have a good day.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
Yeah.
Come on.
I mean, if you're that old, shit.
If I'm getting that old, I'm going to Asia too.
I'm going to shave this beard, be like a white man, and make that Thailand joy come out.
Okay, let's.
Oh, man, these guys have been waiting so long.
I feel bad.
Let's get this one.
Mary Rushmiss, you're live.
Hey, Roosh, you hear me?
I can hear you.
Sorry for that long wait time.
No worries, Roosh.
I'm actually calling you from Kiev.
Oh shit, Kiev.
Okay, that's not that far from me, but all right.
Well, I'm actually calling you.
You and I actually have a very similar background.
Okay.
Both from Persian, both from Persian parents.
Okay.
I was born in the U.S., grew up in California.
I've actually had a pretty strong history with women.
I've always actually done probably as good as someone can do in the LA area without being a celebrity.
Okay.
As years went by, I started to really realize that my favorite girls were Slavic hands down.
I basically relocated to Kiev.
I've been out here for a while.
How long?
Have you been there for longer than one year?
Yeah, longer than a year.
Sometimes I leave.
I'm not here every single day of the year, but collectively, definitely over a couple of years.
Okay.
So, you know, I know you have a great love for Ukraine and the history with it, as well as Russia.
My question for you is, do you see Russia superior as far as ROI compared to Ukraine?
Specifically, why?
And then specifically considering that you and I have very similar looks, similar background.
I'm curious to pick your brain.
It really depends on the man.
It depends on not just, I mean, yeah, even though me and you, we may look the same, maybe the vibe that we put out is different.
And it really depends on your age too.
What I am hearing is that Ukraine, because of the Turks that are going there, for darker guys like me, it's not going to be fun.
Because even when I was there back in 2013, girls were asking me, are you from Turkey?
Some girls were accusing me of lying when I said I was from the USA.
So this is not fun.
I don't like that.
You know, I really don't.
And if Turks are ravaging that country to such an extent, if you look a little bit darker, that's just an extra hurdle that you have to overcome, which may mean that Russia is a better bet.
But I haven't been to those countries recently.
So I don't really know what the answer is.
But, you know, both countries are not fun to live in.
I don't really look forward to the idea of living in either one.
You know, these are places where I don't know if it's hard for you, but if you stay there for more than a couple months, it gets kind of tough.
It starts to gradually grind you down.
You know, there's not a lot of daily joy that you experience there in terms of the people, the environment, the architecture, the service, and so on.
So, but I mean, if you're meeting the kind of girls you like in Kiev, then I would stay because I do hear good things there.
And I've been there only once.
It's not bad.
It's large enough that it can absorb perhaps a lot of the sex tourists and the Turkish guys.
But it's really going to be up to you to traveling and seeing where is best for you because a place that's good for me may not be good for you, even though our looks are not that, let's say, as different.
Right.
The Turk thing used to be an incredible problem the first time I came here.
It seems to be easing off since after the Maidan thing.
And, you know, now people tend to associate me more with, you know, Spanish or Greek or, but the Turks definitely laid down an incredible problem for darker guys in Ukraine.
And I have some bad news.
I have some bad news.
I hear that Turkish men now has visa-free travel to Belarus.
And Belarus, for a lot of guys, was like the last pussy paradise.
I hear Minx is not good anymore.
I mean, I find that hard to believe, actually.
But just, I just hear that a lot of the Turks that would go to Ukraine are now going there.
So that could be why it's not as bad in Ukraine as it used to be.
Yeah.
Well, I can say definitely the type of look, the very specific type of look that I am into is definitely the Russian Belarus and Ukrainian look.
So I'm definitely in the right place.
My question comes from the culture here, specifically in Ukraine, tends to be, I do well here, but I don't do as well as on paper as I know I should be doing.
Well, what are you trying to actually get?
Are you just trying to sleep with really good-looking girls?
Are you trying to find love, wife?
Typically, you know, right now I'm not really trying to settle down.
Okay, so you're just trying to have a bit of fun with really good-looking girls.
Now, this is a game that, again, it's a game that will require more energy, time, and than what you get out of it.
Because game is something active.
That's where my question comes from.
But that's how it is.
That's how it is regardless.
You know, if you're only looking for sex, you have to accept that you're going to waste more time than you put in.
That's just how it is because sex is not active.
It's not a passive thing where the minute you stop gaming, you still continue to receive benefits.
It's a very active thing.
So you have to keep going, keep going.
This is a young man's thing.
Now, if your goal was love or something else, that's more of like a fountain.
That's like a passive thing where you get that love and it keeps giving.
It just requires a little bit of maintenance, like owning a car.
But so for you, there's no way you can really shortcut that.
There's no way you can make it worth it.
If you're just going to sleep around, you will always feel like you're not getting your due because that's how it is.
Sex is an active thing and it's something that doesn't give you any of that benefit that comes when you want to just say, hey, I don't want to go out tonight.
If you don't go out and you don't game on your phone, you don't get anything.
All right.
So that's just how it is.
You have to constantly keep going and going.
And if you're putting out this vibe that, you know, you just want to sleep around, these girls are not going to put the extra effort to trying to impress you or to satisfy you.
Right.
Well, I'm specifically talking about ROI.
For example, your time in Poland was an extremely high ROI.
Six years ago.
Six years ago before the smartphone.
Those days are so gone, man.
I mean, I am in touch with a lot of guys, a lot of younger guys.
I'm guessing you are probably younger than me.
Even for the younger guys, they're having to work like a slave now, man.
It isn't easy.
If there was a place where the ROI was high, I'd be there.
But I'm getting feedback from all these guys.
It's hard everywhere, everywhere now, because that damn smartphone, I think, made everywhere equal.
So, yeah, some places, if you find pockets, it's a little bit easier.
But in terms of one country is amazing and the next country is hard, no, those days are gone.
What globalization has done is make everywhere almost the same.
And that's what its goal was.
So, unfortunately, you're never going to improve that.
It's going to get harder probably every year, especially as your energy is going to go down as you get older.
Even if you're healthy and your testosterone is high, you're still just not going to want to put up with a lot of shit that you have been dealing with.
So, how do you improve your ROI?
You probably can't.
If you've been in the game for as long as you have, and I'm sure you've tried day, night, and internet game, it's going to get worse every year.
I'm sure that's not the answer that you wanted, but hey, that is what's actually happening.
So, enjoy it while you can.
If you meet a girl that you like, I would hold on to her.
I feel yes, uh, it's interesting to hear.
I come to you specifically because I know you have focused a lot of time and energy on specifically Ukraine and Russia, and those are the two main focuses of mine.
However, I haven't spent enough time in Russia, so I thought you'd be a good person to pick your brain on one thing.
One thing you can try is smaller towns.
I mean, that's really it.
That's all that's left is going for second or third-tier towns.
But other than that, is there a magical country that exists that hasn't been ravaged by guys who know me and like to travel?
No, if there was, I would not be in the same apartment I have been in with Donald Trump back there.
You would see me in the shittiest of shithole apartments with multiple women walking in the background saying, Rooshi Pooh, are you done with your live stream?
Yeah, all right, buddy.
Okay, so I hope you have a good night.
Thank you.
Okay, bye-bye.
Thank you, brother.
Good luck.
All right, buddy.
Merry Christmas.
I have to go and pee.
I'll be back in like a minute.
Hey, Arnold, entertain them while I'm gone.
I felt so good.
Arnold, you hope you're doing okay.
Oh, oh my god, that was amazing.
What a bad idea to drink a big cup of tea before or during this live stream.
Okay, now we have an international phone number.
And I don't know where this person's from.
Let's see.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
Hello.
Yes.
Merry Christmas, Ruth.
Thank you very much.
I got a great honor.
I know I did.
Okay, now I send some kind of accent.
Do you want to say where you are from?
Yeah, of course.
I am British.
British, a country that I can no longer go into.
I'm banned.
Hey, I won't worry about it, man.
I want to get out of here as soon as possible also.
Okay, great.
So what's going on?
Sorry?
What is going on?
All right, so I just want to say, like, these people that are worried about the Jews and shit, like, there's literally nothing you can do.
Even when whites are a minority in their own country and their daughters are getting culturally enriched and their wives are being raped and the men are getting killed.
And, you know, if you have the phone, like, even then, they're still going to be, you know, teaming up with a base black man and the Jews and all that shit.
And, you know, there's nothing you can do, man.
Whites are a finished race.
They're done.
Just until the decline.
Have sex with as many hot pictures as you can.
Cuckold as many men as you can.
Laugh at the white man.
I also want to say this, man.
Like, I'm a British guy.
I have a really big penis.
I can suck my cock on my paper crossphone to be cocky myself and then go in the shadows and pretend I'm a ghost, you know?
Yeah.
Okay, that's great, buddy.
That's great.
All right, cheers.
I mean, I don't, he, this guy was on hold for one hour.
He was on hold for one hour just to say that, just to say he can suck his own cock.
I mean, listen, if you want to hate, that's fine, but make it worth your like your while, I think.
That doesn't make sense to me.
One hour to say that?
Come on, man.
People are weird.
All right, let's go here.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
Hey, Merry Christmas, Ruth.
How are you doing today?
Pretty good.
How about you?
I'm doing all right.
Just Drinking around buying Bitcoin craft, not Bitcoin.
Sweet Bitcoin.
Yeah.
But yeah, just a little ramble before I have my own question.
For the past hour, I've been sitting on here and quite frankly, I don't get that, or I don't, I'm not sure that a lot of your callers realize how much of an advantage they have in this world, especially your white callers coming from the West, complaining and bitching about feminism, this and the Jews, that.
Dude, if I was white, do you know where I would be?
I wouldn't mess with these American skanks and schools and futs and floozies or whatever, dude.
Like you said, just go somewhere in Asia or Latin America or Eastern Europe.
Just call it a freaking day, dude.
And what race are you?
Well, the rate that I'm the most hated race in America, I'll just say that.
Black.
Okay.
I don't know.
I don't sound black, but.
Okay.
So you feel that the white callers that are calling are complaining about things when they have other advantages or benefits that you don't have?
I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
It's just the way the world works, but I'm just saying if I was white, I wouldn't sit around debating feminists and all this other kind of stuff and going nicks out.
Dude, I control my own life.
Either you want to take the country back and legitimately take the country back, not focusing on blaming Jews and other racists, or just leave and go somewhere else.
So that's just my little ramble before I get to my own question.
Okay.
Sure.
All right.
Yeah.
But here we go.
The chat room.
Oh, don't worry about them.
They've been shit posting all night.
I mean, I've already tried to ban a couple of them, but they keep coming back.
All right.
So, hold on.
Let me ban.
I got to ban this Jim.
Hold on.
Hold on.
This Jim Johnson guy.
He's out.
Let me see.
Who else?
Yeah.
I mean, listen, you know, I do get a lot of these haters come on, but there's just a lot of them.
Anyway, anyway.
Okay.
Let me get to my question.
And by the way, this is the reason why America's falling down because a lot of you all won't focus on real enemies and go after easy targets like Jews and blacks.
Anyway, but as far as in my example, being a black American who doesn't fall for the typical, I'll say this typical ghetto shit and doesn't subscribe to that sort of culture.
I mean, and also being in America, quite frankly, I'm a man without a country.
I'll be honest.
I'll be real.
But in my case, being someone who's more libertarian in thought, who has more of a sensibilities, I guess, a whitewash sensibilities, and just being more just, I guess, civic nationalist, as you can say, like more fiscally conservative or whatnot.
In my case, I'm doing whatever it takes to get out of this country, making my plants, making my moves, or whatever.
And I sort of have a list of where I think I should go.
But coming from a perspective of someone who's been in the game and who's done all this stuff for over a decade, where would you think the best place for me to go?
How would I know that?
You know, that's, I mean, a lot of black guys I've met, they like either South America, they like Europe, even Northern Europe, Sweden, Germany.
Honestly, I would go to a place where there's at least this acceptance of interracial type of stuff, where in the movies and the advertising, I mean, I'm talking Germany and things like that.
I don't know if I would hop on a plane to Russia where they don't have favorable opinions of blacks.
You know, I would focus on Colombia, Brazil, Sweden, Norway, Germany.
You can maybe try a bit of the southern Europe, Croatia, Serbia, I would guess.
But you have to understand that the stigma of being with the black man in these Eastern European countries is still very, very high.
So, what's going to happen?
You're going to there, you're going to find a girl who just bangs black guys.
So, I don't know if that's the kind of girl that you do want, like a black girl groupie kind of deal.
So, I mean, that's what I would say.
Honestly, I don't know.
I don't know.
I can just tell you from what I've heard.
But I would, if I was a black guy, I think the USA would be the best because there, the stigma, thanks to the years of Hollywood and the advertising and the media trying to normalize this interracial coupling.
I've seen the last time I was in Washington, D.C., I've seen the most amount of white girl, black girl couples than I've seen anywhere else.
Really?
Because I'm also from Washington, D.C., and quite frankly, I think it's one of the most segregated racist pieces.
You think it's going to be better anywhere else?
Well, wait, you think it's going to be, from what I've seen, the USA, for all its faults, is most accepting of black people than maybe anywhere except Africa, man.
Where are you going to go?
You're going to get more, you're going to have more problems anywhere else.
So, I know you don't want to hear that.
I know you want to go to a country where women will see you as who you are instead of you just as a black guy.
But I can't think of any other country outside of Africa that is better than the U.S. in terms of the least amount of stigma you will get for wanting to meet a white girl.
No, no, no, hear me out, hear me out.
The U.S. overall isn't the worst.
I'll give you that.
It's particularly the Western states, but there are two Americas, dude.
It's like the Eastern U.S. and then there's the Western U.S.
But yeah, I see what you're saying.
I mean, there's a mix, and quite frankly, I can probably go to countries like Canada or Australia or somewhere in Europe, probably be a bit better off.
Okay, I mean, for all the talk, just don't be all the talk about like media, just it.
Um, well, let's be honest: the more the chicks who are really pushing to go after black guys are a lot of these woe vicky type of chicks, these Kim Kardashian types of chicks, the type of chick that white dudes don't want to fuck with.
I mean, that's not the real bush.
Okay, trying to mess with no freaking much, Arthur.
Okay, but I'm just saying, don't be completely shocked if you go to these countries that you think is more open, that is actually going to be way, way, you know, harder.
Just don't be completely shocked because, as a black guy, I haven't heard many black guys say this country is better than the USA is.
That just, I haven't really heard that.
I mean, there's some maybe countries you'll be received warmly, but the grass may not be greener for the black man outside of the USA.
Right.
And one public quick thing: I know that in the USA, well, outside the USA, I've heard that skin tone and shea tone is a bit more buried out there.
So, like in my case, I've been told that since I'm sort of more, how should I say this, more lighter-skinned?
Okay.
I look more like, say, a Tony Parker or Barack Obama than anything else.
Will that make a difference?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, as long as you're not African, African, you know, those guys have it really, really tough.
But usually, I see that lighter skinned black guys tend to have it a bit easier.
So that will probably help you out.
But if I were you, I mean, if you want to come to Europe, I would focus on Scandinavia.
Start there and work your way down.
But going to Eastern Europe where the women tend to be better, that's going to be harder.
All right.
Good.
I just wanted to hear the legendary PUA artist himself.
But all right.
Hey, thanks for the call, Brock.
All right, man.
Bye-bye.
All right.
So I know there's going to be people saying Rouge promotes interraciality or whatever.
But I'm just saying it like, you know, how it is.
If you are a black guy and you want to sleep with a white girl, maybe the USA is the best.
You know, I just, I don't, I don't see any place where black guys kill it automatically.
Okay.
Okay.
Let me see how many callers we got.
This guy's been waiting for over an hour.
It's another hour waiter.
So 600 people.
Wow, this is still going pretty strong.
I think 605 is the most we've had since I started.
And I think we can go another half an hour.
Let's get this guy.
Mayor Christmas caller, you're now live.
Hello?
Yes.
Oh.
I couldn't tell.
Well, I'm your first female caller.
Okay.
And how are you?
And I'm fine.
Thank you.
Yourself?
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
I love your pug.
Thank you.
That's probably the most charming part about you.
It's a real pug, by the way.
I know he doesn't move much.
You think he's a stuffed animal, but it's a real pug.
He's very patient.
Okay.
Very patient.
He needs to be patient.
And where are you from?
There's so much I would love to say, but I'm going to try and avoid that because I know that I'll get right to the cold.
Putting race aside, though, I think there's a couple things that some of your callers, some of the people follow you, and I've been following you for quite a while.
I would say at least a year and a half.
Okay.
I think basically stick to your income.
People have certain values that reflect within the income in which they were raised.
So if you're, you know, Ivanka Trump, you're going to have a certain kind of person that you want.
If your folks were school teachers, you know, you're going to have a certain kind of income and a certain kind of intellectual aspect there.
And if your parents were blue-collar workers or, you know, Walmart greeters, you know, that's you kind of got to look at that background.
I think that's important.
So wait, you are saying to focus on the income of the person you're trying to date, like the socioeconomic kind of background, trying to match that?
Yeah, I think, I think it's, well, for those who want to, I mean, when you play your game, that's a whole, well, you know, there is something to that you can play your game because there's a certain amount of intellectual or your educational background that has a lot to do with how women relate to men.
And where are you from?
Where are you from?
I'm in the United States.
And what is your general age range?
Well, I'm in my late 30s.
Okay.
Now, I mean, your advice wasn't really brought up in the sense it doesn't solve a problem that the men today called about.
You know, there wasn't a problem there.
So I'm not sure why you're bringing this up.
I'm guessing a number of the men that called were looking, you know, for children for permanent to, you know, later on after the game that they want to settle down, look for the wife, as it were.
Okay, well, that's something that they can.
I just wanted to say what I think eventually most women really want, you know, and for those men to kind of stay within their range, you know, of income and values.
Okay, so that's the advice you want to share.
That's fine.
Is there anything that you want to ask?
No.
Or you just want to ask me.
I do have some questions sort of on the side.
Let's do one.
What?
Okay, do you have skills?
Do I have any skills?
Yeah, you know, I don't, I mean, in the sense of what can you do?
Can you build something?
Can you fix something?
Can you make something?
No, I don't have any skills at all.
Okay.
So I think that's, you know, and the ratio aspect of your loyalty to another person.
How do you think that's a good idea?
Are you kind of waiting?
Okay.
This is for you to ask me things that get my knowledge, but you're asking me things that a woman would ask me on like a date.
You know, like, what are your hobbies?
What do you like to do?
This is like a dating question.
Not saying that you like me, but this is kind of not what the call-in show was meant to be about.
Well, okay.
I guess maybe I'm not.
So maybe there's something.
Is there a problem that you have in life that you need the opinion of a man who can maybe shed light?
No, I guess I don't.
So your life is perfect.
Great.
That's great.
I'm more or less wanting to help.
Okay.
Well, I hope that your comment helped someone.
And thank you very much.
Okay.
Bye-bye.
All right.
Good luck.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm here to help.
I don't know what she was trying to do, but she seemed like a nice person.
You know, I'm not going to hate.
But that was.
Okay.
Let's move on.
Okay.
Let's see.
Who's been waiting the longest?
We got one hour waiter.
Oh, this one.
This guy's been waiting.
Merry Christmas caller.
You're now live.
Hey, am I on?
You are now on.
Yes.
Fuck yeah, one second.
Holy shit.
How's it going, Ruth?
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
How about you?
Fucking 604 gang over here.
I actually, when you went and took your piss, I actually took my piss, that piss then too.
I just wanted to say a couple of things before my question.
Okay.
All right.
So I have a really fucking deep admiration for you, men.
Like, I've been following you since I was like 14.
I'm 19 now.
Wow.
I think it was really fucking great what you did in like 2016 with the meetups.
I'm in Vancouver, actually.
That pissed a lot of people off, but it did shift the Overton window and a lot of people were red pilled because of that.
And number two, another thing that I fucking love that you did, you called out those like ethos begging for money on For the longest time, it was a huge issue.
It seems like when I did that, people wanted to really talk about it.
There was a lot of comments.
People said I started the Trad Thought War of 2017.
I hurt the feelings of a lot of girls, though.
A couple of them contacted me asking me, Rouge, why are you doing this?
You know, and I didn't, I never intended to hurt the feelings of the individual girls.
But listen, we have to not allow women to gain entry to a men's circles and try to corrupt it from the end.
I've never coached on a poll for like years, and nobody gave a shit.
They'd just be like, Oh, look, it's our girl.
You want to give her money and shit?
And it's like, it's ridiculous.
And you, you finally call them out, and everybody freaks the fuck out.
All the beta orbiters, you know, it's ridiculous.
Yep.
Anyway, so my question is: I told you a bit about myself.
I'm 19.
I'm in Vancouver.
I'm just starting university in January.
And my long-term goals include like, you know, being a patriarch, having a family, being a father and a husband.
But I have like, you know, a lack of experience with women.
Like, I'm fine with picking them up.
I just, I can't seal the deal at all.
Like, I'm fine with day game and shit.
It's just when it comes to closing, it's, it's really tough.
So I'm wondering before I start university, should I just like go fuck some hooker or should I invest my time in game or should I go to school and just like work hard and try to find a nice Christian girl?
Or what do I do?
Okay, if you know what you want at your age, what I would do is, first of all, I would stay where you are because to try to travel, find a wife, and have a family in a foreign country, that's very, very hard.
I mean, that's something you do if you're 30 and up and you've really failed for over 10, 10 years in your own city, country.
So the first thing I would say is to stay where you are and focus on that.
You said you're going to start college soon.
Second thing is, you're still very young, man.
It's okay that you haven't gotten laid yet.
I wouldn't think about banging a prostitute till I was till you would be maybe 22, 23, because college is going to change everything.
I mean, most men enter college, I would guess at least half who've never had sex.
And I mean, how are the interactions going with you?
Are you at least getting like numbers here and there and things like that?
I'm going to be honest with you.
I get numbers.
I'm able to approach.
It's just, I don't know how to fucking close.
I went on a couple of dates, which is fine, but I mean, I can't do it.
And my question is: is this going to like affect me if I find a girl one day at church and I want to marry her?
Yeah, I mean, every church girl I've met, one of the things they ask me is, guess what?
Have you been with a prostitute?
I don't know why, but they always ask me this.
So I would say that, yeah, if you sleep with a prostitute now, and if you are honest to your future religious wife, that's going to definitely hurt.
But you don't have a problem.
I don't see a problem in a 19-year-old not who's not even in college yet, not being able to seal the deal.
I'm sure that your hormones are really high and you want sex and this and that, but I don't see you're nowhere close to being in an emergency situation, nowhere close.
So I would go to college at least a couple years there.
What you're going to find is gradually you get farther and farther.
You round first base and then second base, and then you meet a girl who wants to go all the way with you.
But I wouldn't be overly concerned about it because from what you're telling me, you are already almost there.
I don't think it's going to be another year that you that you eventually do get with someone.
All right, it's just I've been real worried.
Like all the people that I hang out with, they like they fucking you know fuck with me.
Oh, you know, buddy, you're fucking nine.
They're just doing that.
Listen, they're just doing that to take the heat off of themselves.
A lot of guys make fun of other men so that their own faults are not in the spotlight.
So I wouldn't worry about that.
And plus, a lot of your friends are going to lie to saying they banged this girl when they didn't.
So don't, so they're going to make it seem like everyone's banging every day, the hottest girls, but no one's getting laid.
So don't, you know, don't let that get to you so much, especially since you know what you want.
It's just going to take a little bit more time to really get there.
But I wouldn't even think about sleeping with a prostitute before you're 22.
But you should see.
I figure I should just focus on college and then just focus on college, meet girls there.
Yeah, I think you're kind of putting a lot of unneeded stress on yourself.
I mean, you're such a young guy.
I mean, yeah, I know some guys get laid earlier, but I think you're making a problem that isn't there.
You're already into game.
You're starting to understand what the concepts are.
Just give it like another year or two based on you, the fact that you took the red pill early.
It's probably going to happen on its own without you having to actively force it happen.
I think you may be trying to force it really, really hard.
And sometimes for some people, the more you try to force it, the more the gold starts to run away from you.
So I think you're already there.
Just go to go to college.
Focus on being just a social guy, a positive guy that a lot of people like and want to hang out with and who wants to invite you to parties.
And I think based on the way you sound and what you've already done, it's not going to take a long time.
And you figure I should just be like honest with the girl when it comes down to that.
Like I shouldn't try to fucking put on the fake alpha shit.
Yeah, don't.
I mean, I would just say that.
Don't tell a girl that you've never been with a girl unless she is a virgin too.
If a girl is not a virgin and she thinks you are, that may not actually help.
You don't have to tell them.
I mean, sex for a man is very easy anyway.
I mean, you don't, I'm sure you know how it is done.
So it's not like a girl needs to know it.
But if you're going to meet, like, say in the first year, you meet the perfect girl and she is a virgin and you are too, then it's fine to be honest.
But yeah, you don't need to fake it.
I mean, dude, most girls who are 18 and 19 wouldn't know an alpha male if it hit them in the face.
They're mostly looking for guys who are like popular, guys who are social and good looking and fun.
All right.
Well, I appreciate the advice.
I just have one more quick question.
Okay.
Do you have any skills?
I don't have any skills.
All right.
You know, okay, sure.
Bye-bye.
Yeah, it's like this, that woman asked me if I have any skills with the expectation that I'm going to prove to her all the skills I have.
Yeah, I got skills.
I know how to do this.
I don't have to prove myself to anybody.
You know, come on now.
Okay, let's see.
So now I'm just picking callers who've been holding for the longest time.
So, yeah, that guy is.
Oh, boy.
I'm getting tired, guys.
I'm getting a little tired.
Merry Christmas, Cola.
You're now live.
Hello.
Yes.
Oh, cool.
Well, Merry Christmas.
And I've heard Trump would say, but I do have an actual question.
I'm not just going to ramble.
Okay.
Nothing to do with women.
Okay.
Nothing to do with women or Jews.
Don't worry.
Or Jews.
Okay, great.
Don't worry.
More about finances.
I think it's a topic some other people have brought up with.
But as you know, you're a guy who's been living independently for the last, I would say, at least a decade, right?
Yep.
No 95 job and going strong.
So I was wondering if you have any, if you had any general tips that you would want to give to men who are interested in living the same situation, have the same financial situation that you are in right now.
Well, the best thing you can do is start a business for yourself that is based on the internet.
I mean, because that not only allows you to be your own boss, but it allows you to move around.
You don't have to ask someone else to take a trip somewhere and to, you know, can I please go on a one-week trip?
You know, so what, I mean, that's the best thing.
But now it's what kind of internet business?
Because the kind of business that I'm in, selling e-books, that was very good in the past.
But who reads now?
I mean, who reads books now?
And the advertising, if you have like a red pill type of site, Google and all these ad networks are going to kick you off.
A lot of the alt-right people who make money do so by getting people to donate.
You know, and I don't know that that's a stable way to sustain a business.
So, you know, I know some other guys, they're really heavily into the internet marketing.
So they sell other people's goods and products.
But it's just so many different ways.
I think if you can figure out how to get an internet business going where you're making between two to four thousand dollars a month, I mean, I think that's going to open a lot of options because it's not going to hold you to one place.
But the only problem is what kind of internet business should you start, right?
Yeah.
I actually do.
I do have some skills.
Yeah.
I'm actually programming skills.
Okay.
I was wondering, I'm sure you probably worked with some guys, you know, that has similar skill set.
So I'm wondering if based on that, you would know what I could be able to maybe usually, what I could use how I could make use of my programming skills to live that kind of life that you're living right now.
How about you make an app that is like Instagram that allows girls to maximize the attention they get?
You would make billions of dollars.
You know, I want to contribute to the degeneracy of society further, but I keep that in mind.
But I mean, you know, honestly, it seems like based on you making your own kind of app or site, I don't know, man, because I'm in the, I can't code for anything.
I can't code.
I'm like a big idea guy.
I like to write.
Even I can't sell that well.
When was the last time you heard me try to plug a book of mine?
So even selling, I don't really care for.
So I think it's just kind of a bit of an accident that I was able to make a living doing this.
So it's really hard for me to give advice.
Right.
All right.
One final question.
I don't want to keep the other guys that have been waiting.
So I know you've been messing around a lot with Bitcoins and cryptocurrency.
So do you have any advice on that specifically?
That I think blockchain is going to be, it's like the internet 2.0.
So I'm looking for coins that can either replace financial instruments that we use now or that can kill sites like PayPal, Airbnb, and Fiverr.
So those are the two things.
So I'm focused.
So for the coins that I like, you know, that's going to be something like Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, MyCoin, like the known ones, the ones with the top market share.
And the coins that I think could kill an existing Silicon Valley business would be something like REQ, which is like a PayPal killer.
There's a couple others that I'm starting to research.
But for my advice, there is only put in money that you're willing to lose.
It shouldn't be your main way to earn some kind of income.
I'm only putting in money where if I lose it, I'm not going to be upset.
I'm just going to be like, oh, well, it's gone.
But I think that the internet 1.0 with these really huge centralized sites like Facebook and Google has to go down because you see what they're doing with their power once they achieve this monopoly style power.
So that's why I want to find a coin or a blockchain that can kill them.
And I think if that actually happens, if we can decentralize the internet while making money at the same time, that's a win-win.
So try to find something that can serve as a substitute for what you're already doing right now.
All right, cool.
All right, buddy.
Okay.
And you have a Merry Christmas.
And YouTube.
Bye-bye.
Sweet crypto gains.
Crypto grains.
Okay, let's go for 15 more minutes because I'm getting tired, guys.
Hold on.
Let me take a little break.
I'm so exhausted.
So we've only had two actual hater calls.
One was a weird kind of hater that hung up when he found out that I was actually willing to talk to him and pick out his mentally corrupted mind.
And the other was a guy from England who said Hitler something, and then he just hung up after waiting for one hour.
Oh boy.
Okay, which caller do I think is a female?
I think I think this caller is.
Let's call this.
Let's see this guy.
Oh, there he is.
There she is.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You are now live.
Hey, Rush.
Merry Rushman.
Thank you.
I took the red pill back in February of this year and totally experienced the benefits of everything.
Throughout my journey, the red pill was always associated with you or Rolo or Royce.
And as far as the manosphere goes, I was reading a blog by Rolo, and he quoted you on something.
And somehow he, it made it sound like there was some beat between you guys.
I guess my question is, why does Rolo think you're like you don't like him or you're why does he think you hate him, I guess?
I kind of, I didn't.
When, okay, when the meetup outrage happened, Rolo was taking, oh shit, hold on.
Rolo was taking stupid feminine jabs at me.
And he was just talking a lot of shit.
And he wouldn't stop.
And he was just being a bitch.
That's it.
He was just being a fucking bitch.
So after that, if you want to be a bitch, go be a bitch.
I don't care.
Do what you want.
I'm not up in your website commenting on it.
I can't even read his articles anyway.
So he was going to be this.
And I said, okay, man, go off and do your own thing.
He was sending me bullshit tweets on Twitter.
So I had to go and block his ass.
And that was it.
It was for me.
It's done after that.
But years later, he still is trying to get in, trying to talk, trying to make comments about me.
I don't care.
If you don't like me, then go away.
I don't need you in my life if you're giving me some kind of, I don't know, problem.
If you like him, if you get value out of his work, that's great.
I'm really glad.
I'm not going to tell anyone.
I didn't mean to, yeah, I didn't mean to start up any drama.
No, no, no, no.
I'm not going to, I'm not going to tell you.
You guys are great.
Sure, sure.
And that's why I'm not going to tell you who you should read and not read who you should, whose books you should buy.
I don't care.
So the point I'm trying to say, if someone shows to me the negative side of who they really are, I kind of cut them out.
So he was like, I don't know if he was jealous because I was getting attention in the media.
I think that that was probably it because he thinks himself as like, you know, really smart guy and no one is writing articles about him.
I thought, and then he was ups, he was upset about it.
Dude, I don't have time for that.
So that is why.
I just thought that was kind of weird because all three of you guys are so knowledgeable, especially all your contributions to the Manosphere.
Damn straight.
It's just weird how like there would be some kind of cat line between you and I was like, what?
But is it though?
I mean, is it weird really when men whose egos are larger than average who are trying to carve their own market share and influence?
Is it really weird when they get into some kind of argument?
You know, like me, I think I'm more open than most people in kind of letting people be who they want to be.
If they get big and share some great work, that's great.
If I like it, I'll share that too.
But other people, if they see someone doing well, if they see someone achieving a level of success that they want, then they get angry, you know, and I can't help them.
Yeah, there's going to be haters, right?
Yeah, no, you can't control that.
All right.
Well, you know, I appreciate the call, you know, taking my call.
And, you know, I really just was curious because it seems like you guys bounced information off.
Well, from his blogs, he quotes, he likes to quote you or Royce E, you know, and part of his blogs or whatnot.
So I thought there was some kind of, you know, I guess like there's some like collectivism there.
No, no, no.
And that you guys were kind of like just, you know, not friends like, you know, in real life or anything, but you guys just kind of like tend to work off each other.
No, no, no.
We all do our own thing.
And sometimes men want to go off in some weird way.
And I do let men do whatever they want.
So thank you very much.
Thank you.
Okay.
Merry Rushman.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah.
If, I mean, I'm not, I don't like, I think if you see me, I don't like to start a lot of drama and beef.
Maybe some drama.
All right.
Maybe I start some, but I don't start that much drama.
All right.
Let's see who's been waiting.
Man, I don't know how these people do like five-hour streams, six-hour streams.
I'm doing this for how long?
Three hours.
I'm exhausted.
I'm fucking tired.
I want to go sit on my damn couch and watch a movie.
It's a lot of work.
Okay, let's see this guy.
Mary Rushman's caller.
You're now live.
Hey, Roosh, Merry Christmas.
Thank you, man.
Thank you.
yeah i wanted to add i don't know if this has been asked already but in the direction the west is going um i don't see any positive aspect or benefit for a man to be in a marriage or long-term relationship with the average woman in america or the west in general would you agree with that uh i can't agree with that i say when you say average Average woman means what?
You know, I don't know because what you think of average may not be average to me.
But yeah, generally speaking, if you're above average, and I think every man sees himself as above average, they also want a girl who is above average too.
But I would say that I think a relationship with the right girl is indeed worth it.
But with a girl who I don't care about, with a girl who doesn't turn me on, who's not, who doesn't possess the qualities that I want, of course not.
But just the way it's going as far as the media, the laws, and you talk about like having a traditional family, especially in America, you know, it just doesn't seem too many bad things can happen, you know, as far as long-term.
So what?
So I don't think it's an option for me to live in fear because of all the many lightning strikes that can hit me if I walk outside.
Yeah, I can slip in my bathtub today and die.
Does that mean I'm not going to take a bath?
No, that just means that I'm going to be careful when getting in and out of the bathtub so I don't fall.
Now, so I think we had a caller that said he doesn't want to get married because of the risk.
And I agree that the risk is high, but there are ways to mitigate that, to lower it to where you can still get the joy and the pleasure and the love that comes from bonding with a woman.
If you don't want to bond with a woman, that's fine.
You know, maybe not every man wants to do that, wants to play that game and deal with the risk in that way.
But to try to convince me or other men to say, hey, hey, you should not be trying to have a relationship with a woman when one of the strongest urges in man is to bond with a woman.
I mean, it was one of the first stories in the Bible with Adam and Eve.
I don't think that's, I don't think you're going to convince a lot of guys.
I was thinking more in terms of like overseas for a Western man that will maybe more compatible with a woman from a more developing country, Eastern Europe, Asia, Latin America, or even Africa.
I think that would be a lot better for as long term than the typical Western women.
I think it could be, but since all the conditions and technology in the United States is spreading outward, you'll find that whatever you leave in the USA will just follow you where you go on a five, five years after that.
Like the stuff I'm seeing today in 2017 in Eastern Europe is like what I was seeing in Washington, D, D.C. just five, six years ago.
So I can try to run away again, go to a more isolated country, but I don't think that's a sustainable long-term goal.
So what I would advise to men like you is to take a trip, you know, two weeks just to go see it, just to, you know, go out, go nighttime, daytime, hit on a couple girls, see what actually happens.
And then you can make a judgment after that if the foreign angle is for you.
For some men, it's not.
For some men, it's very hard.
And it is hard because you're trying to connect with a woman whose background, whose culture is completely different than yours and who may not even speak English.
So, it's not easy.
I don't want you to say that leaving the USA or Canada, I don't know where you are, you are from, but it's not easy.
But if you deal with all the difficulty, the women you meet could be better, right?
I lived overseas for two years.
I'm from America, but okay, I lived overseas for two years and noticed that the women are very much different.
Some of it is a little bit westernized, you know, you can see it creeping in, but overall, it's way better whether you just like to play or you're looking for long term.
But you're right, culturally, it's going to be an issue, you know, just because it's two different people.
But I just wanted to say that.
Okay, great.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate that.
Uh-huh.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Yeah, I mean, it's tough, but listen, if you meet the right girl and she is attractive, she likes to clean, cook, she really treats you well, gives you that sweet love, getting into a relationship with her makes sense, no?
But it's hard, it's hard to find her.
It's it's pretty tough.
Okay, let's see what we got.
Excuse me, okay.
The caller rolls are starting.
Only nine callers.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
Hi, Ursh.
Hello, how are you?
Good.
Phony from Ireland.
Okay.
I have a question.
You made a comment on one of your somebody article on Return of Kings about.
I'd like to know if anybody found a wife through day game.
Yeah, there was, I think I wrote, okay, so I wrote an article about how day game is something or other.
And then I left a comment.
No, no, someone else wrote an article and I said that, has anyone met a wife?
And a couple guys said, I think a couple did, which isn't that much.
I think maybe two guys did.
Yeah, I've done about 150 approaches, mostly Ukraine, Central Europe, Poland.
And I got three layers, but I noticed with this face, I got it was kind of like, well, definitely two of them.
I was kind of right, you know, the lover guy.
I was saying to my friend, it was like I felt like this poacher guy.
And then I felt like, well, I'm too old to go to clubs because I'm 43.
Okay.
And praying it's crap anyway, going to clubs.
Day game is much better.
But I feel like the way day game is set up, it's like you're scrambling the woman's brain.
You like such that you're being dominant to go and push.
Yes.
Kind of like now.
What kind of game?
What kind of day game do you run?
Is it the London direct style?
Yeah.
Okay.
So what, so what that does, and that's you go up to a girl for people who don't know, you go up to a girl that you see outside and you say, hey, you look really nice.
I just wanted to say that.
And what it usually does, this kind of like kind of compliment, and it usually comes after you run after her or walk really fast after her, puts a woman on such an emotional high because it's so, because we have to understand that the currency for women is getting attention.
So it makes her feel so good that during this high, she may go along with what you have to say and give her number.
But then a lot of those numbers don't go anywhere because once she comes down from that, it doesn't go anywhere.
And the ultimate problem is this.
The ultimate problem with the direct day game is you're chasing after girls who didn't even know you exist.
You're basically cold calling to the extreme.
A cold call that makes the caller, the person that you're calling, feel very, very good.
But in the end, she just wasn't shopping for the product that you are trying to sell her.
So for that to really...
Both of them said to me that they really liked that I had the balls to go up to them.
I wasn't the Turkish type, you know.
Right.
But it works on a certain.
But yeah, it isn't high.
It isn't.
I mean, if you want day game to work, work on a level where the flakes are lower, you have to approach girls who give you a sign.
So you're walking around slowly with your masculine walk, like, you know, you're just on top of the world, confident as shit.
And then girls are checking you out.
You approach them in a smooth way and make them work.
You don't give, don't stack all these openers approaches.
You're doing the work for them.
Make her seduce you.
Make a girl feel like she chose you.
That's how you really drastically reduce the amount of flakes.
Because otherwise, you're just going to approach a lot of girls and you're going to get one that at that moment in time happens to be horny, available, and think, okay, this guy isn't bad.
I don't have anything else to really do in the next couple of days.
I guess I'll sleep with him.
But that's what you're doing.
And when you're an older guy, I mean, you're older than me.
We don't have that power to chase after 100 girls just to get like a bang or two.
It's just a lot of work.
So you're going to have to start to filter girls who like you.
It's your only option in Ukraine, though.
Why is that?
Night game is disaster.
They're all basically prostitutes for what I could take.
Okay, yeah, but you don't have to go out at night.
You can run game during the day.
Girls there give plenty of eye contact.
Yeah.
But we're talking about a technical thing, but basically what I'm trying to say, actually, my first bang was actually like she was like a bona fide Victoria Secrets model.
Okay.
So I was just really happy.
I was so happy that it all paid off to work.
Okay.
Some guys, but they go do, I hear fellas doing six, 700 approaches.
They never even get a bang.
Yeah, because they're just, because they're like a five out of ten and approaching eights and nines.
You know, a lot of men think game is a game is not value.
Game is a way to cash in the value that you already have.
Game is a way to, if you're a seven out of ten, you can bang a seven out of ten.
But game is not a way to be a five out of ten and bang higher than that.
It's not.
You know, so a lot of guys think now I can bang hot girls because I know how to have a chat.
No, no, no, no.
So that's something that, you know, that's why so many people who teach games say you have to work on yourself first, go to gym and so on.
All right.
Yeah.
But I was just going to say, right, you're basically hijacking the woman's mind.
It's not, it doesn't work for a relationship.
The girl that the first one I got, like I could tell that I just basically, I was giving her such a high, and then she was, she, she was, she was with a guy.
I was, I was like the poetry guy.
Okay.
And then, and then, you know, that's not going to be, I can't get a relationship out of that.
And then I said the other two, it was the same thing.
And I was just like, am I ever actually going to get a woman that I can have a relationship out of this day game?
I started to think that day game just scrambles women's minds.
That's all it took.
I think you need to try.
I don't know what kind of girls you are going for.
I'm guessing they're really good looking.
They may be higher than what your value is.
So you may be getting a lucky type of break where you're banging girls whose value is actually higher just because they're lonely at the moment.
And then they decide they don't want to stay.
So I think a big problem is guys there, they may be shooting a little bit high.
When you want to develop a connection, you should be very aware of what your value is and to focus on girls who are on the same type of value scale.
All right.
And when is your book coming out?
Hopefully, second half of 2018.
It's a big book, man.
It's big.
It's taking a lot of time, but it is definitely going to come out next year.
And it's going to have chapters on relationships.
Of course.
Of course.
Thanks very much, Roosh.
Okay, man.
Bye-bye.
Yeah, I don't really see, I don't think he had a major issue.
I mean, he went, he did some approaches, banged a couple girls.
I mean, that's a pretty good start, right?
So maybe just kind of tweak a couple things from there, and then maybe some more magic happens.
Oh, I'm tired.
Arnold, let's go to sleep and take a nap.
Arnold's tired, guys.
Arnold's tired.
Mary Rushman, you're now live.
Hey, Roosh, how's it going, man?
Mary Rushman.
Thank you very much.
How are you?
Loved your travel guides.
Actually, me and my buddies do quite a bit of traveling, usually once or twice to Eastern Europe every year.
Your guides are kind of like a starting point reference.
I would love to see all of them because they're all kind of outdated now.
Sure.
Although, as you mentioned, with smartphones technology, everywhere is kind of becoming the same.
Anyway, I have two, hopefully quick questions.
One is: what are your plans for New Year's?
I always feel like this pressure, you know, to go out and socialize and whatnot.
But it's always like super expensive and bridge and tunnel crowd.
I was kind of initially paying to do something like that, but I'm probably the girl that I'm kind of eh on, but she really likes me.
And I don't know, it's a passive night.
And I'm going to ask my second question afterwards.
So on New Year's, what I like to do, I like to wait until after 12, go prowl the streets, don't go inside anywhere, and pick off the girls alone who, for whatever reason, didn't like those really crowded clubs, all the people.
So find the lone targets outside and then bounce into like a bar that's kind of empty.
Now, this strategy is not easy.
It's not fun, but I'm not, hell if I'm going into these stupid ass clubs that you have to wait two hours to order a drink because they, you know, hey, look, drinks are free until midnight when, hey, you, the bar is so crowded, you can't even get one.
So I'm not going to deal with any of that.
Go out, stay at home, make myself a good dinner, drink a bottle of sham, sham, champagne, half, maybe like maybe half one.
And then after 12, just go out.
If it sucks, be back home at one.
If it's good, maybe see what I can find.
And know a couple of bars that are going to be empty.
So if you meet a girl, you can bounce her there and make sure she's cool and there's something going on.
Both of you, you tend to like each other.
And then say, hey, I still have a half a bottle of champagne from my party earlier.
Why don't you come over?
And that's it.
Nice.
I like that.
So my second question is kind of more broad.
So my specific situation, I'm a 42-year-old in LA, originally Romanian and now discovering kind of the fruits of my mother country.
So I've been there a few times.
I've also traveled pretty extensively to Ukraine, Hungary, Serbia.
I actually have like pretty good contacts in Ukraine with regards to like nightlife and social events.
I'm kind of like, my end goal is to kind of like find wifey.
In LA, there's a lot of like girls to bang.
None of them are really what I consider wife material.
If you were me, like, what would you do in my shoes?
You know, one thing from the guys I met that are from LA, this is one of the more toxic environments in the USA.
You know, girls, I mean, it's very difficult.
The illusion of plenty.
There's nothing.
No, it's not.
It's not.
So, but I also know how leaving your own country and starting, trying to start a family somewhere else is very hard too.
So is there another state in the USA you can try first?
I don't think I'd want to leave.
I think my goal is to kind of like find one and bring her back.
Okay.
I own a place here.
It'll take a lot.
I mean, I'm very comfortable.
Women aside, I'm very comfortable with my situation here.
But you want to bring back your wife to that kind of Los Angeles environment?
I mean, that's kind of maybe a toxic place, no?
Fair point.
I'm in, so you know, LA is a big place.
I'm in Santa Monica.
It's a little bit more sleepy.
It's not quite in the cesspool of Hollywood.
So it's a little bit better.
But yeah, I see your point.
What I would do, if I was you, I would focus on some of those states close by that could be good.
Utah, Idaho.
They're not that far.
You know, maybe take a couple of trips there just to see what it's like because it can be night and day compared, California, compared to, I don't know, Wyoming or something.
I mean, I would focus there before I hop on an airplane all the way to Europe, find a wife, then figure out how to bring her back to LA, which is sure to change her in ways that you can't expect.
Hopefully it won't change her in such a bad way.
I think even the most traditional girl will be corrupted to some extent.
I would be very careful, you know.
That's a good point.
I mean, there's, you know, that's probably a reason why I haven't found anyone so far.
I mean, for that long-term purpose, it definitely is corrupting and corrupting location.
All right, man.
Okay.
Thanks.
I encourage you to update the travel guides because those are super valuable.
I will update them only for you.
Oh, thanks.
All right, buddy.
Okay.
All right, man.
Bye-bye.
Merry Christmas.
You too.
Yeah, you know, one thing that's weird, and one thing that I wish I really thought of is that sometimes you can just have to look into your backyard before going to another land completely, you know, because just because Washington, D.C. wasn't bad, how come I didn't travel throughout the U.S.?
Maybe there was another place that could have been good.
Why did I have to go so far away?
So the reason I went so far away is because it was something within me.
You know, it wasn't because everywhere in the USA is bad.
It's just that I just wanted to get out.
I wanted to run as far as possible, get away from where I was from.
I don't know why.
But then after many years, I'm still away and I like where I am now.
But once you see how the USA is following me everywhere, I everywhere I go, some of these girls, I can't even tell the difference between them and some of the treatment I got in DC.
I wonder if maybe I should have focused a little bit closer.
All right, let's get another call.
This guy's been waiting.
Mary Rushman, you're now live.
Is this me?
You are on, yes.
Oh, cool.
Am I the first forum user to actually get this contact?
No, you are the second or third.
Okay, let's see.
You got any skills, by the way?
Can you what?
Say that again?
Do you have any skills, by the way?
I don't have any skills, bro.
What about your home banging skills?
No, I can't bang hoes anymore.
I'm done.
I can't.
I don't have any skills.
I can just sleep and eat.
All right, let's get some serious questions.
Has traveling around the world put in a strange relationship with your family?
You know, thanks to Skype and so on, I'm still pretty close to them.
In some ways, I'm closer to some members of my family than when I actually lived there.
Because I think when your family is there, you take them for granted to a certain extent.
But now that I'm not, I call often, you know, and I take the time to really see what their problems and issues are.
I still try to help them any way that I can.
Of course, it's not the same as when you see them, but has it estranged me from my family?
Not as much.
No.
All right.
And, oh, Cat, what was a question?
Oh, yeah.
I have a question.
What is the obsession with race and dating?
I don't quite understand it personally.
The obsession?
If you just work out and just like just be in shape and have your money game tie together, that would all come together.
Do you think that a woman sees the race of the man who comes up to her?
Yeah, so if a guy is trying to stick gay, why would race matter more?
Like if a guy had his like, he knew how to dress well, if he was going to the gym, if he was making, you know, a good enough salary coming income, why would race be an important issue?
You're asking me, but you should be really asking the sex of the human who chooses who they have sex with, who completely can, who completely controls whether sex actually happens.
Some girls don't care as much, but every girl has stereotypes of what she thinks every race is, white, Indian, Asian, black, Latin, European, and so on.
So, I mean, I don't invent what a woman thinks of a white guy, a Middle Eastern guy, but the truth is that many girls have a preferred race of man that they want to be with.
And if you're not within the race, then you're going to have to overcome it.
And usually by doing like the things that you said to have value that is very high.
All right.
I think that's all I have for questions.
Thanks for having me.
All right, buddy.
Okay.
Bye-bye.
All right.
Ready, Mr. Smith.
You too.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't, I can't control what a woman sees me as, you know, because some girls just want a certain type of man.
Some girls want Latin guy, a black guy, a white guy.
You know, maybe I'm too dark for them.
Maybe I'm not dark enough, right?
So if a girl wants a guy that doesn't fit within my racial profile, why would I try to interact, try to convince her?
No, you have to get with me.
No, I mean, unless she's already open to dating a man who looks like me, you know, maybe she likes a darker kind of guy with beard and so on.
Then that's it.
All right.
Now, let's get this guy.
Mary Rushmus, you're now live.
Hello.
Yes.
Oh, wow.
That's pretty cool.
I'm actually watching you with no sound and I'm a little bit tipsy right now.
That's okay.
Still probably going to be able to use some of your other callers.
Anyway, the reason why I'm calling is because I'm actually a Jewish fan of yours.
And I think it's important for people to realize that not every single person who's of that persuasion is some far radical leftist.
You're familiar with that.
Right, right.
And I've known men who are Jewish, who hasn't caused me any problems, and they're more on my side than not.
So when on the internet you speak of the Jews, you usually mean Jews of power.
You know, Jews who work in the media, who are activists, who are pushing gay marriage and so on.
It's not the average Jew who is, you know, trying to make it through life.
You're 100% right.
And the thing that's ironic about this is that I actually grew up in an Orthodox neighborhood.
Okay.
And my father is a military officer-turned intelligence person.
And I grew up in literally the most opposite environment you could imagine because my dad was like sort of traditional American conservative and all my friends were basically like God-fearing people, you know?
So then once you kind of get out into the real world and you find out that what Jewish means is this weird leftist, like, I don't even know what to call it.
You're just like, what the fuck is happening?
I don't want to be associated with these people, you know?
Yeah.
But one thing I would ask you, though, you do identify with the Jews, right?
I mean, you do feel that you're closer to the Jewish people than the, say, general American.
Well, personally, I actually don't feel that way because my dad was a Navy pilot and very patriotic.
And, you know, I grew up on Star Wars and, you know, sort of like the American individual idea.
The idea that, you know, people would come here and sort of be, I don't know, assimilated into the culture.
Like, I actually was taught that that was a possibility.
So I always believed that to be true deep down.
So when my, I had a friend whose father was very, you know, stereotypical, like he was a investment banker and actually was like a major APAC donor.
And I was just like, don't you realize that the reason why the sort of anti-Semitic tropes exist is because you people are fulfilling them.
Like, what the fuck is wrong with you people?
Because that didn't really get me very far.
I stopped.
So then how do you feel?
How do you feel where on the alt right and so on?
This constant Jews are bad, Jews are trying to subvert their inventors of feminism, communism, blah, blah, blah.
Does that kind of bug you on some level or not?
Well, okay.
Well, first of all, on some level, it's true.
I mean, like, you know, for example, I never felt I had any sort of relationship to any of the people around me because I was growing up around two types of people.
Either they were extremely religious Jews who believe that like waving a fucking chicken over your head makes you morally superior, or they were like, basically like liberal leftist people who think that chopping your dick off makes you okay or something, right?
And I had nothing in common with any of them.
So when I actually first started really delving into the internet philosophy side of things and I started watching Ramsey Paul videos, I remember thinking, this guy is like, he's with it and he's going to predict a feeling in this country that's bubbling underneath.
It's going to come out in a few years from now, you know?
And that's actually what happened.
Like I was watching him before Trump or anything like that came to fruition.
But then the reason why I found you was actually because I met a girl who turned out to be a Jewish Russian American.
Oh God.
And she, oh my God, like I'm, I was, I, I, I can't even handle it.
Like, first of all, she told me that when she was younger, she heard the devil talking to her and her mother sent her some psych ward.
That was a bad sign already, but she was extremely attractive.
So that was a, that was a bad start.
But she, she, I mean, the whole thing, like, she said she was into polyamory.
She had done heroin.
She had transgender friends at a transgender stater.
I was just like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Like, I couldn't believe it was real.
You know, like, my dad was taking me to like meet Navy SEALs when I was younger, you know?
And I don't know.
It was just such a disaster.
But yeah, I'm like one of those rare individuals that grew up on the borderline between two cultures, like traditional American and Jew.
And I'll tell you the truth, one is far better than the other.
I know, I know.
So hopefully your fellow, your fellow Jews don't ruin the USA so much that maybe, you know, maybe you as a Jew, you can be a base Jew like Stephen Miller in the Trump White House is.
I don't know if you know who he is.
Oh, no.
No, no, I'm trying to get a military contract.
I don't have anything to do with politics anymore.
I just care about learning how to skydive and stuff like that.
Okay, cool.
Cool.
But all right, then.
Hopefully things go well.
Okay.
All right, bye, sweet.
Have a good one.
You too.
Bye-bye.
There we have it, guys.
A base Jew caller.
He's based, based.
All right, now we're almost done, actually.
We have six more.
Can I do six more calls?
All right, you guys have to get, okay, for you future callers, come on, you got to bring that dang energy.
You got to wake me up.
This has been over three hours.
This is a world record stream.
Three hours and 20 minutes is the longest stream any single man has ever done.
I am breaking some records here.
Now, for you other callers, you have to bring the energy.
Let's bring it.
Next caller, Mary Ruchmas.
You're now live.
Hey, Roosh, how you doing?
Pretty good.
How are you?
Not good.
The holidays.
Has it been treating me well?
I'm going to give you a little background on myself.
I'm a Latino alt-writer.
I used to be part of Identity Europa.
Used to write for reaction.
I'm sure you're familiar with that little girl.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
So, yeah, long story short, I've been with my girlfriend for like four years.
She knows my politics.
I've been recently, I guess, quote, red-pilled.
And this is a girl I'm thinking I want to marry.
But a few days ago, I went through a computer and I found almost a stash of, I would say, like three gigs worth of black porn.
And I'm really concerned.
I don't know what to do.
I don't know if I can do it.
Are you joking with me, buddy?
Are you trolling?
No, I'm not actually.
Why would she store three gigs of porn if you can just go online and watch it free?
I guess she just, you know, just decided to have it, I guess, a folder because I went through it and I would check through her hard drive.
Was she the star?
What happened?
Was she the star of these porno clips?
No, no.
Okay.
She was just watching a lot of them.
I don't know if it was like a sounds like, this sounds kind of fake, dude.
It just, it sounds fake.
I mean, I don't know any, most girls don't even know how to save a file.
And so this girl has saved three gigabytes?
That doesn't, I think this is some kind of troll job.
I do think.
But let's just play along.
Let's say it's real.
Okay.
So let's see.
You've been with her for four years and you found three gigabytes of BBC porn on her computer.
Jesus.
So, I mean, well.
Should I like even go through it?
Because here's the thing, though.
I recently made some money off of Bitcoin, right?
I haven't thought.
I wasn't telling you that, luckily.
And I'm trying to, you know, I don't know what to do.
I'm really concerned about this because if I now I don't know what to do.
Like, I don't know if I should break up with her or, you know, just, you know, end it.
Okay, well, I'll just say, first of all, it's not as bad as you finding some kind of, I don't know, chat that she's having with another guy.
You know, at least it's not interacting with the man.
So is this an emergency where you have to break up today?
No, it's not.
Now.
But here's the thing.
I'm an alt-right, you know, Latino mum.
You're still trolling me, dude.
You're still trolling me.
All right, Latino with a girlfriend who has black porn.
Dude, stop fucking with me.
Stop fucking with me, man.
Look me up, man.
I've been on the famous Black Pills show called The Weekly Sweat, and I've provided a lot of paid.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, all right.
Have a good day.
Good, good joke.
Good joke.
Come on, man.
All right, Latino.
That was funny, though.
I will give him that.
He made me laugh.
If you're going to troll or hate on me, make me laugh, please.
Okay.
Mary Rushman, you're now live.
How are you doing, Roosh?
How the hell are you doing this fine year?
I'm doing pretty great, buddy.
How are you?
Doing all right, dude.
I've been listening to you for quite a while.
And I have to say, I really noticed the transition from a lot of angry atheistic politics with the alternative right to really Christian fundamentalists.
My question is: do you think that Jesus is really the one of the main quote-unquote red-tilled figures out there to listen to and gain knowledge from?
I think he was a truly enlightened man who tried who felt this godliness through him and wanted to allow others to feel it too.
All right.
I don't really care about all the magic stuff.
Like it was a virgin birth.
He healed people.
He rose from the dead.
You don't need to convince me with all the magic.
A godly person is godly.
You don't need to prove it to me.
So, but the problem is he's dead.
A person like that, you have to feel him, see him.
You have to hear him talk.
You have to be in the same room as him.
Feel what kind of energy that this man has.
Because now we can only read him through the books.
And the books have been through many hands, man.
Many hands.
And every hand is going to put its own little twist or spice into what he said, you know, to conform to what the editor wants it to be.
So, as but based on what we know of him, do I think Jesus, yeah, I think he was one of the more enlightened men who had lived.
Was he red pill?
Well, yeah, he overturned the tables of the money changers in the temple.
So I think that counts.
I think he did more good than not.
But since he's not here with us, there's a dead man can't really guide you.
You know, I can write books and books now, but after I'm dead, the environment changes and I'm going to be dead.
I won't be able to tell you what is right now because the advice you give is dependent on the environment.
It's dependent on the age that we are currently in.
His age is done.
I don't see how, I mean, I hope that you can read him and feel him.
But in terms of using his advice today, that's kind of hard.
You know, I don't, he isn't here to guide you.
So you're going to have to trust your own instincts for the most part.
You're right.
It is.
It's very intensely hard.
Although if people did listen to most of his advice and even the fake civilizations, even if they are all made of stories, many civilizations have been through this pride cycle.
And the West will eventually go through this now, which I think I'm going to frankly enjoy if it goes through the destruction in my lifetime.
But I kind of had a second question.
And it was like, I just recently joined a Mormon church.
I'm now baptized and a member of the Mormon church.
Okay.
And one of the things is to remain abstinent till marriage.
So I'm not obligating right now.
Okay.
So I've been trying to learn game.
And if I ever think I will ever, ever be married to a Mormon woman, I will still have to learn game because, you know, they're still raised in the Western diaspora.
Think a young man should go through a period of learning game, dating around a lot, perhaps maybe committing some pre-marital sexual acts to learn the woman.
So eventually, the woman that you marry, you know, I can learn game for her and just be not the boring guy for her.
So increasing my chances of having a family with her and stuff like that.
I think if you were marrying the average type of girl, the game maintenance you would need on her is very, very high.
On a Mormon girl, if she really is Mormon, how much game do you think you will need?
I mean, you'll need to be a little bit confident and be kind of smart about how any warning signs.
I don't think you're going to need a lot of game.
I don't think you're going to have to really chase after girls, bang a lot of girls to handle a Mormon.
I don't think so.
I mean, I would think that the benefit, I would think that getting with a Mormon would be the path when I don't want to learn game, honestly.
I mean, because there's so many community and religious constraints upon her that, hey, that's great.
I don't have to.
I mean, yeah, you have can't be a total idiot, but I mean, you seem to already know enough about game that I think you're good to go, man.
Oh, that's good.
I just haven't had a peer because, you know, we still do live in, I live in Texas, which is not as crazy as Los Angeles, for instance, but it's still in the United States in the Western diaspora.
She still can be influenced.
Sure, sure.
You know, but as soon, if you get married to a Mormon, I would stay as tightly knit with the church community as possible.
You know, have the church members watch over her too.
You know, let it be like a whole village that keeps her safe.
All right.
Well, all right, buddy.
All right.
Thank you, Ruth.
Thank you for calling.
I appreciate everything you do.
No, no problem.
Bye-bye.
I have to pee one more time.
One more pee.
Oh my
god.
Oh, I'm so tired.
So tired, Arnold.
It's getting late.
All right, let's see what we got.
We can do it.
Let's see this caller.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
How are you?
Oh, I'm so tired.
Oh, you have to mute the YouTube stream.
Oh, my bad.
That's right.
Hey, Roost.
I wanted to talk to you about the rise of the alt-right.
Okay.
And what do you think about it?
Because I feel like so for me myself, I'm a Catholic Indian as an I grew up in Florida, but my parents immigrated from South India.
And even I can tell that the alt-right, they're not a bunch of neo-Nazis, white supremacists.
I can see that like there's clearly a double standard.
Like the media keeps on like, you know, shitting on whites.
They keep on talking about there's no white voters or or there's no minority voters for Trump and things like that.
So I want to ask you, like, what do you think?
How did they rise?
Like, how did this really come about?
Like, how come the media, you know, covers like the other side in such a negative way?
Well, it's clear that the media connected with the government and the universities have some kind of agenda to maintain their power for in perp in perpetuity.
So the way they figure that is to weaken the strongest parts of the USA, which is the white people, and to bring in or empower people that they feel they can control.
So that's why the alt-right came about.
Now, I'm not in the alt-right.
They're a neighbor of mine.
And I follow them because in case my neighbor's house starts to burn down, I need to know that how to protect my own house.
But I think they have a right to share whatever opinions that they want to do.
I think they have a right to, while I don't agree with them in a lot of fronts, I think what's great in the USA is that you can speak about whatever you want.
So I think they should be able to do what they want to do.
Exactly.
I don't like how they demonize them because, you know, it is their right to, first of all, to express their opinions.
And I think it got that way because they kept trying to suppress them and demonize you just for having like a different opinion.
So I'd see like, for example, Charlottesville, they said it was all like neo-Nazis and white supremacists.
But if you really look into it, you see there were just a bunch of like, you know, normal people that wanted to hear, I believe it was Richard Spencer speak.
And even the leftist PCLU defended them because, you know, they had their right, they had a right.
They obtained permission.
They had a right to speak there.
But then you see these leftist crazy Antifa thugs, which are basically college-aged white kids, you know, calling them Nazis and just completely like destroying property.
Like you'd see this with, if you, I don't know if you follow Milo Yiannopoulos or Ben Shapiro, but they've been doing like college talks for like two years.
And they're just conservatives with an opinion.
And these people would just like burn down buildings and protest.
And, you know, I kind of sympathize with the alt-right because if you keep on like, you know, shitting on people for just for their race or whatever, I feel like this is a natural reaction.
Sure.
But, you know, I don't know why the media and the leftists do what they do.
I mean, I don't really want to get into their minds too much because the more you get into the mind of your enemies, the more you become him.
But I do agree that, you know, the alt-right is a natural reaction to the massive anti-white ideas that have been forcefully pushed here.
So that's all that there really is.
I mean, if they win, they win, but I'm not going to white knight for them.
They are men.
If they can defend their ideas, they should do it.
I'm not going to defend them, you know, because if I'm when I am under attack by the media, they don't help me.
So instead, I think it's best they do what they are doing.
I do what I am doing.
I don't go out of my way to attack them.
I don't have a need to.
But if they are strong, if they possess the ideology that will win and save the USA, something like Charlottesville shouldn't even impede that.
Right.
But if they are not as strong as they hope to be, then a Charlottesville will maybe be the beginning of the end.
So that's all.
All right, Caller.
Thank you very much.
OK.
Yes.
Let's go to this caller.
Hello, caller.
You are now live.
Thank you very much.
How are you?
Merry Christmas, Rush.
I'll try to bring the energy.
Yes, please do.
Appreciate your endurance.
Thank you very much.
My question is fairly direct, but maybe not so simple.
Just a little bit of my backstory.
I, as a younger guy, had little bits and pieces of sort of the red till and kind of really came to the community about a year ago and basically kind of realizing that I think I've been in a heck of an anger and depression phase for probably 15 years.
So, you know, I have a decent number of natural advantages.
There's certainly stuff I need to improve.
Last three months, I've made a heck of a lot of progress on those things.
But the anger just isn't ending.
And there's still parts of the community that I can't really quite accept.
And I guess I'm wondering, aside from shut up and lift, or aside from, you know, improve your game and bang a bunch of hoes, how do you get past the anger or do you?
You know, it could be a possibility unless you've tried some kind of Eastern philosophy stoicism that this anger is a part of your nature, your nature, your character.
There's something, maybe something happened to you when you were a young man that this anger was like a seed that kind of started.
So what I would do, if I were you, if you've tried other ways to deal with it, how can you actually direct and channel that anger into another way, into a more productive way?
Because I don't know what else you've tried to deal with it, but it sounds like, I mean, if you are an older guy, like same age as me, and that anger is still there, it's probably a part of a part of you.
And any attempt to really stop it isn't going to work.
So you instead have to try to direct it, you know.
So try to see what your goals are and then use that anger.
Use the type of energy you get from it to accomplishing those types of goals.
What I've done for the last 10, 15 years is just work on my career.
And so, you know, I've kind of built up a pretty decent career making well into the six figures.
But my other life's goal is really geared towards a long-term relationship, a wife, maybe a family.
And the impossibility of it is kind of what seems to that, how impossible it seems to be is kind of crushing.
So, and I definitely have, you know, burned myself out at work.
So, you know, converting that anger into money or whatever hasn't brought any sort of peace or anything.
Yeah, hold on one second.
Let me pull this up.
Yeah, I mean, You know, you are asking a guy who doesn't really know how to solve that type of specific issue.
But one thing I'll say is that, you know, you may be, I think to be angry is not an abnormal thing.
Sometimes I get really angry.
You know, I sometimes want to hurt other people, you know, and I don't often.
But I'm not sure.
I'm not sure, man.
I'm not sure this kind of problem.
I don't know what specifically type of anger it is, how it affects other people around you, your family, friends, as it impact the relationships.
But in terms of finding a wife, I mean, unless a girl has left you specifically because of the anger that you actually have, I think, and you have been able to develop a career, you may be bottling it up to a certain extent that you can actually live among other people.
So I don't know.
You know, I'm not really sure.
It's a tough night, isn't it?
Yeah, it is.
So, you know, maybe try.
I don't know if you try to be to read some stoicist type of books, Taoism, Buddhism.
Those actually help.
So I would focus on more of these Eastern or that kind of thought and see what you can get out of it if it gives you some coping techniques to really handle it.
All right.
Okay, I will.
I'll get into that.
Okay, buddy.
Bye-bye.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, I don't know.
If it's like an extended anger, I don't know.
That's beyond the scope of my expertise.
Merry Christmas caller.
You're now live.
Oh, hey, Rouge, am I live?
You are live.
Oh, awesome.
Hey, man, I'm a huge fan of yours.
I'd like to introduce myself really quickly before I ask my question.
Okay.
So, actually, I was going to like, I just graduated college recently and I was going to write an article for ROK.
You know, with all the Mobile stuff, I don't know.
Hopefully, I didn't support you.
But that's where we're going to respond to my email.
But I hope I can still eventually get to talk to you on Skype or something like that.
That's okay.
That's okay.
You can submit an article when you have the time to do it.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, so I've been learning game a lot.
And I just had like my first question was: what do you think are like realistic results in terms of game?
Like, because I feel like a lot of people online, they just like brag about like, oh, I'm getting late over time.
But actually, like, my own experience is like, even that bad sky, you can get like four girls per month.
Like, the most if you're like, like, really, really advanced, most people are probably getting one per month for nothing.
I guess what is your take on that?
It all depends on the value that you have, the value of the girls that you go for, the type of game that you have.
It depends on where you live.
I mean, there is no normal standard.
There's no way to really answer that.
But it sounds like you're a bit hung up on what the numbers are on how many girls you can get if you put in X amount of work.
I find that a man who starts approach game with that viewpoint will be very disappointed of how much work it really takes just to bang, you know.
So I'm not sure that you're approaching it in the right sense.
What I would do is, what kind of man do I have to be to get the girl that I do want?
You know, what do I have to do to meet her?
But if it's what kind of guy, what kind of game, how much work do I have to put in to bang a bunch of you know, hoes, you can do that?
It's gonna, it's gonna take a lot of work, it's a lot of work, and you can ask me how much work I spend.
It's like I feel like a lot of guys get selling like a whole like you know, RSB and all those companies they just saw you that greed like, yeah, these kind of ways like very often, but then like you go gaming, and it's just like no, no, don't follow these guys.
You know what I mean?
People who went to like these uh corporate PUA outfits come to me after, and I have to take out all this junk that they put that the corporations put into their mind about what game should be.
All that does, all they do is turn you into a spammer, a robot, a socially autistic idiot who gets kicked out of shopping malls.
That's all that they that they do.
I mean, you have to be more socially aware after raising your value.
You can't unless your standards are really low.
But any guy who gets in into game wants to bang hotties.
I mean, that's just a normal thing, you know, because you're making some kind of sacrifice to approach these girls.
But it doesn't work like that.
It's tough.
So I think, I don't know, what is your value on the scale of one to 10, accounting for your look, your status, everything?
Right.
Oh, sir.
I think like a seller, I would say that it's harder for me.
Like right now, I've been getting results.
I just got like results, but it's more like a struggle.
You know, it's much different to that when it's faced with it.
You know, like, oh, like, I saw Perela as well, and he, like, a lot of guys make it seem like, yeah, like you get to a point that you're getting laid like at least four times per month.
But you just get one laid per month.
Listen, listen, listen.
If you think you're a seven out of ten and you're new into game, which you should, you should be focusing on girls who are four and five.
And if you focus on that and build your build a foundation with them with girls who are probably going to like you when you come up to them with a normal game, then you gradually build up.
The biggest problem I find is that guys want to start at the very top.
Bro, you have, I'm not talking about you, but you have generally no skills, these guys, and they want to bang eights.
I mean, now I wonder who is selling them this idea that they don't need perfect, they don't need to be an experienced guy with value and you can bang eights.
I don't know, but it isn't me.
Oh, man, yeah.
Well, and then my second question, Rouge, like, are you an out-of-game person?
Are you ever planning on doing some like guys lessons or like maybe like a commercial training in like Eastern Europe or would you be something doing that?
I'm too following people on you for a long time and went through our game right now.
No, because doing a workshop or it takes a lot of energy.
It's a lot of time.
And I'm more of the loner type.
I mean, look at me.
I'm doing a stream that's going on four hours.
I'm beat up.
I'm so tired right now.
Just talking.
And it's fine.
I like doing this.
But when you're a more introverted man, the more you talk, the more you do one-on-one, the less your energy goes, right?
So that's why I like to write.
Because when I write, I gain energy.
So probably not.
All right, man.
Okay.
So I hope you have a good night.
All right.
Thanks, Dutch.
Bye-bye.
Yeah.
So, we're seeing a kind of pattern, right?
We're seeing guys who are new in game or haven't had much experience and want to dive in and bang hotties.
It doesn't work like that.
It doesn't, you know.
And I don't care if you take a workshop that's $3,000.
You ain't going to do that.
Okay.
You're just going to be tricked by other men who aren't even banging hotties either.
They're paying all these PUA street videos infield, almost all of them are fake.
Okay.
If the girl is good looking, it's fake.
There.
Okay.
But honestly, like the game topics.
Game is game is good.
I like game.
Game game feels good.
All right.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
Hey, Rees, what's up?
It's Cattle Rustler.
Okay, Cattle Rustler.
How are you?
Doing pretty well.
Merry Christmas to you.
Thank you.
Jitas and drinking tequila.
Okay, great.
All right.
So my question is: where do you see the future of crypto?
And also, how would it take place in the forum?
Maybe we could use like a micropayment exchange.
Yeah.
Or we can, you know, somehow hide our assets, or where do you see crypto coin in the future?
Now, I'm kind of new to it.
I, in the sense that, yeah, I've been accepting Bitcoin for years and years.
And it's nice to know that the couple hundreds of dollars I got a few years ago is now worth thousands.
But I've only really been into it for, I would say, three months, three to four months, and only started to buy about one month ago.
So that said, it's a bit hard for me to say.
I'm not like an expert.
I know some people have been in crypto for years and years.
And even for them, it's tough.
But I do think that a lot of the main coins right now, like the Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Litecoin, that's kind of like the 1.0 version, right?
So, I mean, that's going to be on top for a while.
But what are the 2.0 type of coins that are going to come out?
So I think, you know, you kind of cash in on the 1.0 coins that are doing very well right now that have a market cap that's very, very high, but have a strategy to exit out of them as you ease into the newer version with more advanced blockchain, more transactions per minute, and so on.
Because if you think of what Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash, I mean, this is older type of tech, but it's on Coinbase.
And Coinbase, if you get your coin there, it's going to go up.
I think Bitcoin Cash, it just got put on Coinbase.
I mean, how can it not go up in the next six months or one year, even though the only difference, main difference between it and Bitcoin is the block size.
So I think those coins for the next two, three years are going to be fine, but you really need to get in on the newer tech coins at some point.
And the second question you asked on the forum, I think you're going to see a really, I think it's going to be investing in coins is going to be one of the best ways for guys like us to invest.
And I think that forum is definitely going to grow.
It's still in its really early stages, too.
I think it's only been open for what, three or four months.
And already a lot of topics, a lot of good ideas on what coins to buy are actually there.
Perfect, perfect.
And that's my only question.
I appreciate it, brother.
All right, buddy.
All right.
Okay.
Have a good night.
You too.
See ya.
Who wants to get some of those crypto gains, huh?
I want to enter Lambo land.
Lambo Lan from my massive crypto gain.
How is the chat going?
Chat's going pretty strong.
Pretty strong chat.
556 people.
I don't believe it.
Okay, let's go this guy.
Okay, we have six callers.
So I think we can actually finish.
Let's see.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
Hey, Roosh, what's up?
How's it going?
I'm going to get right to the point.
I caught general herpes about six months ago, and I don't know what to do.
I don't want to give it to someone, and I don't know what the rules are.
I mean, could you just give me some overview on herpes game?
Okay, troll, I know you're just joking, but I will say this.
If a guy does get that, I heard that you get like a big outbreak at first, and then the first year you get a couple others.
But then after that, once you don't have these outbreaks, supposedly it goes away.
I don't know.
But you have to see a freaking doctor if you're being honest, which you're not.
And that is all.
So good luck with your herpes game.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Go see a doctor.
Use condoms.
If you fall in love with a woman, tell her, I don't know.
Shit.
You know, herpes game.
See, if he didn't say herpes game, I would have maybe bought it.
But he kind of laughed at the end of it.
He really couldn't hold it in.
But hey, if you're willing to hold for half an hour to do your little joke, that's fine.
I don't mind, you know.
All right, let's see if this caller is a little bit more serious.
Merry Christmas, caller.
You're now live.
Hello.
Yes.
Yes, my name is Christian, and I grew up in New Jersey, and I grew up in this Christian household because Christianity is my main religion.
I read your articles about game, how to get girls, the red pale version of dating.
The only thing that is stopping me to get girls and, you know, have success with girls is that I grew up with this idea of fornication, you know, having sex with multiple girls is a sin.
And so how do I deal with that as a Christian?
Like, I want to have girlfriends.
I want to have, you know, I want to have fun with girls like how guys do.
And also, how do I navigate in this situation where false rape accusations are very surging to an unprecedented time that we're living in?
And how is all this anti-male, anti-sex, anti-masculinity?
How is that going to end?
That's what I'm wondering.
Let's first tackle the false rape thing.
That's still very small.
Okay.
That's not something that you should actively worry about.
Just don't sleep with really feminist chicks.
If you avoid the crazy chicks who are talking about rape culture and saying, I got raped by many men, I was abused.
Avoid those girls.
If you avoid those, the chance that you're going to be on the hook is very low.
Don't sleep with really drunk girls.
Don't sleep with girls who are passed out.
Of course, if you do that, I'm pretty sure you should be fine.
As for you, how to be a Christian with these Certain ideas about what sin is and to have game.
Yeah, that's going to be some kind of conflict.
Have you tried meeting Christian girls?
Yeah, but for some reason, like, I never saw a Christian girl that really turned me on.
No, I've been like, I've never seen church as a place to look for women.
Like, I never viewed that.
Okay, well.
I mean, okay, so if you don't like the girls that are within your church and you want to sleep with girls outside of it, don't you see how you're going to have to sacrifice your Christian ideals?
I mean, what other option is there?
I mean, how are you going to do it?
You know, there's no other way to do it, man.
Either you've also, I talk to girls in bars, rooftop, and for some reason, for some reason, I do very well with foreign girls and girls from out of state that come to New York City and visit.
I do very well with them.
So like when I talk to girls in the local area, the bars that are going to Hoboken or the bars that go not far from my house, right?
I try to talk to them and they're all like, some of them they do reply to me, but then they're like, like the way they talk, the way they try to distance themselves, they'll just say plainfully, say, oh, I have a boyfriend, I have a boyfriend.
And I'm like, why should I try?
And this is one of the reasons why I stopped clubbing.
Only was clubbing for like a year and that's it.
Like I didn't do it no more because most of these girls are in this little cluster and this little groups and they don't want they don't want me to know those other guys who are in their little group.
And so, and it's like, okay, look, listen, you now work.
Listen.
You are talking about a problem that any guy has.
Yes, even when I was in Washington, the local girls were, I mean, the USA girls were a lot harder than the new arrivals from like a foreign country, girls who are traveling.
Yeah, those girls are always easier.
So that's not a problem that's new.
A lot of guys have that, especially if you're not, I don't know what kind of girls you are actually hitting on, but you could be hitting on girls that are not interested in you.
So, or maybe you're going to like a scene that you don't fit well into.
That said, that's a problem that all men have.
All right.
Uh-huh.
Hello?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And my last question is: this anti-white, anti-masculinary, anti-male, I get irritated every time I see on Twitter.
Like just a couple of weeks ago, I had a big, big argument with a bunch of girls, a bunch of guys on Twitter, all because I replied to a girl saying women should not be in the military, period.
And you still see the pyrowaves.
Sure.
Boy guys attacking me, girls saying or comparing, oh, a woman giving birth to a baby is the same thing as a guy being in combat.
Yeah, I'm like, how stupid are you?
How stupid are you to compare those two things as if as if it's the same?
You know, and it can be fun to argue with people on the internet from time to time.
I've been known to do that.
But generally speaking, man, trying to argue with people who don't agree with you is just going to be a waste of time.
If you want to use it as a form of entertainment, like I've done, that's fine.
But there really is no point trying to have a dialogue with people who don't agree with you because now people are so crazy, especially those on the left, they just can't handle someone who has an opinion that's different than they have.
So I wouldn't really try to waste your time.
Don't try to convince people.
There's still a lot of people as proof that fact that Donald Trump won that are already sort of in your point on the political spectrum.
So focus on them first.
All right.
All right.
Okay.
Have a good night.
It's a pleasure to talk to you.
Thank you very much.
Okay.
Bye-bye.
All right.
Yeah.
He's either going to have to, you know, somehow be attracted to the Christian girls in his church community or break his, I don't know, ideals and vows, vows and bang hoes.
I mean, how else are you going to do it, right?
I don't know.
Shit.
I'm tired.
See how's the chat going?
He sounds like a Mexican creeper.
I don't know.
Let's do one more.
One at a time, right?
I can do one more call.
Let's do this one.
Hello, caller.
You're now live.
Oh, hey, Roosh.
What's up?
This is actually the base Jew.
I'm calling back again because I didn't ask my question.
Oh, God.
Okay.
I hope it's okay.
That's all right.
With one person calling twice.
But basically, do you think that like feminization of men and feminism in general is like a national security threat, not just in terms of the internal decay of the country?
But when you talk about, if you look at West Point or the Naval Academy or any of the prestigious military institutions, they actually had a woman who passed Ranger selection recently.
Like, can you imagine a woman defending us from ISIS or from, you know, that in Russia, they don't even allow women to enter the fighter pilot training.
So do you think that it's a serious threat, not just in terms of like the internal relationship between men and women?
Sorry, I'm working in the chat and the chat's out of control.
Okay.
I will say that the USA is safe because even with a really weak army, who's going to come in and try to invade?
Who's going to try to take us?
You know, so I don't think it's going to be an immediate threat from a foreign invader.
No, I don't.
But some of those European countries that depend on the USA, but anyway, any kind of war in the future is going to be like a nuclear war anyway.
So I don't really, yeah, I don't think that I think the reason they're allowing all the women and the trainees in is because they know it kind of doesn't matter.
Like the war in the future is going to be fought with what?
Nukes, EMPs, robots.
But I mean, in terms of like corruption, for example, I had a girl who was like working at some pizza restaurant and she kept fucking the manager.
Okay.
Nice.
And like she was an incompetent worker.
And what I'm saying is that that type of corruption, if it's in the military, even if they're fighting with fucking like robots built by the autistic nerds at MIT, there's still going to be like a corruptive force within the structure if everybody's trying to do things for sexual favors.
You know, like the same way that over-feminization of like a workforce could be destructive to a company.
I'm saying in that sense, could that destroy a military?
I think it can.
Now, I'm not a military expert, but I think that if your military cannot fight, if it encounters an opponent that can, yeah, but the thing is, like, I don't think it now is just that the Western culture is going bad.
I think we're living in an age where the entire world has gone bad, where every country is getting weaker and weaker.
So, I don't think that there is another country out there culture that's getting stronger as the U.S. goes down and down.
So, I think we're living in a complete age of just a declining world.
And the world hasn't seen this a lot.
Usually, one empire falls while other empires come.
But what empire are you seeing rising up?
In a globalized age, if the U.S. falls, the world falls.
You know, China, Russia, they all fall too.
I'm at a prestigious sort of university in the Midwest, and my professor kept referring to this term Pax Americana.
Like, the same way that the Romans ruled the world, now then the British ruled the world, now the Americans rule the world.
And he kept talking about, and he's an Oxford-educated guy, and he was sounding like Bruce V. He was coming in and talking about Romanization of the culture and how this could be disruptive.
But will this end well?
No, it won't.
This won't end well.
And but, you know, that's kind of out of our control.
So I don't think there's much you can really do about it.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
And I'm going to hang up because my phone's out of battery.
But the last thing I want to ask before I hang up is: can you just speak about how to get over a girl or one itis in general?
Cut off all.
Okay.
Okay.
To get over a girl, you have to cut off all contact with her and wait till time, enough time goes by until you're just over her.
And it could take a long time, six months, a year.
Took me six months to get over my ex.
You know, but even now, sometimes she pops into my mind.
But gladly, there's not this kind of emotional lamentation like, oh, I wish she was here.
It's more of, I wish that bad situation didn't actually happen.
So the base Jew calls again.
The base Jew stream, Mary Jumis, call in.
Okay, great.
Caller, you're now live.
Caller.
Caller, you've been waiting a long time.
I don't really hear anything.
I don't hear anything.
Caller.
Oh, well.
I'll give him one more second.
Maybe he went to the toilet.
Caller, call her, call her.
Nope.
Caller's gone.
Oh, well, that sucks.
We'll get to this one then.
Caller, you're now live.
Caller?
That's weird.
Two or not?
Oh, that's kind of odd.
Oh, for two.
Something's going on, huh?
Am I still connected online?
I'm still connected.
I don't hear anything.
Oh, well.
Maybe that's a sign to end it.
Let's see if this caller is on.
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Hello, is anyone there?
That is me.
You are live, sir.
Go ahead.
Yeah, hi.
I've been a recent follower of you since last year, really.
Okay.
So I'm 21 years old.
I live in Michigan, the United States.
So pretty much I've never been with a girl, pretty much, because my father is one of those religious nuts.
Okay.
You get by me.
Yep, yep.
So I don't want to get too detailed because pretty much I'd be like a 4chan meme, but for a mental problem.
Okay.
But I mean, on the outside, if you're normal, but when I start interacting with other people, you get by me.
They start seeing something wrong.
This happened with one girl.
She was at the gym.
I mean, when we first talked and all that stuff, she liked she pretty much thought I was a normal guy.
And then when I asked her how she knows something off, and she's like, oh, I have a boyfriend.
Sure.
And now, what is the off thing that people tend to sense about you?
Like, what is what tells them that something could be off?
Well, um, I have a, it's autism, basically.
Okay.
I know this is a condition that is becoming increasingly common.
So for you, I was diagnosed though by the school.
Okay.
For you, learning any kind of cold approach game is going to be very difficult because even for guys who are normal, let's just say, I mean, who don't have the mental condition is very hard.
So for you to maybe be unable to perceive some social signals and so on is going to be tough.
So I would, if I were you, I would focus more on a social circle type of angle, make some friends, you know, and then go from there.
But to learn game when you have this, it's going to be tough, man, because it's tough for men who don't have it.
I see.
Yeah, so I would focus.
You're still a young guy, too.
You know, I would focus on making as many friends as you possibly can, friends who are close, who can understand you.
And then from there, you'll be invited to various parties.
You'll be introduced to people because you're still a young guy.
So I'm guessing that you're in some kind of school or college.
So that's what I would do.
But the cold approach, girls, honestly, man, that's tough.
I wouldn't go there unless you absolutely have to.
Okay.
My second thing, too, is since I'm young, I'm worried that I'm missing out on things because, like I said, all my friends, all the people I at least talk to, they're all telling me their experiences.
And I mean, after a while, it starts getting to your head.
Yeah, but I mean, that kind of happens when you load up someone's Instagram.
Everyone's having fun.
Everyone's traveling.
Everyone has hotties, hot girls, beautiful, this cars.
I mean, everyone is going to present their lives as much more exciting.
But I'll tell you that you're still a young guy.
The peak of my life in terms of girls and fun, I was like 33, man.
You know, so to think you're missing out, usually for men, it gets easier as you get older.
The peak of a girl's life is coincides with how she looks like the peak of her looks.
So like 18 to 25.
But for men, our peak is after that.
You know, our peak is when we can use the experience, the income, the smarts, and the knowledge that we have been able to accumulate.
So really, until you're 30, I wouldn't even worry about it.
I would just focus now on building a social circle, getting your education, starting to get your money straight, and just making moves that when you're 25 and older, things are going to be a lot easier.
Okay.
Okay.
All right, buddy.
Also, with the career, too.
Uh-huh.
I remember you said you were pre-med, weren't you?
Yes.
Before you became a writer?
Yes.
Yeah.
My dad, he's also a doctor.
Okay.
He wanted me to go into medicine.
So originally, I didn't agree with it, but then I don't know if there's a reason I started getting into it when I volunteered at a hospital.
So this semester, really, I kind of realized it wasn't for me.
And I'm doing computer science too because that was my original plan since my dad won't.
It's kind of complicated, but he won't pay for the education.
So my mom made me do computer science.
And I just took some pre-rex for pre-med stuff.
And then pretty much I realized after, like I said, with even with my girl situation and people give me weird looks occasionally when I say something off, I'm kind of having doubts, basically.
In terms of job, you're going to have to do what you want to do.
Because your dad, he's not going to be there every day when you're at this, at this job.
And I hope your dad lives a long, long time.
But after our parents are gone, we still have to work that job too.
So at the end of the day, you have to do what you want, even if it takes a hit right now, even if your dad is a little angry at you, even if you have to pay extra.
So I would focus on what you want to want to do.
As for the weirdness that maybe other people perceive of you, I mean, that's something that you're just going to have to wait till you find someone who is more understanding.
You know, I mean, because you can control people and how they see you, but you can control which people you allow closer to you.
And you're going to have to wait a while longer than, say, someone else until you can find a friend, a girl, a woman who sees the value that you actually have.
And it will take longer than some other guy.
But it's not, I mean, just talking to you, I mean, you're not completely off.
I mean, you are able to express yourself.
So I don't think you're going to have as much of a hard time as you think you are.
You may be playing tricks with yourself and thinking that, oh, a girl see me as off.
When even guys who are normal, we get turned down too.
So I think you may be perceiving people's responses of you in a way that is wrong.
So keep that in mind too.
All right.
So I hope you have a good day.
All right.
Okay.
Bye-bye.
Yeah.
It's very easy to, if a girl, she turns you down, you want to think, oh, I'm ugly.
Oh, I'm too old.
But you don't know why she did that.
I mean, he is making a judgment call that she turned me down because of my mental issue.
But you don't know.
maybe she'd even see it you know okay let's do one more Where's that number that I accidentally hung up on?
I feel bad about that guy.
Oh, well, caller, you're now live.
Hi, my name is Klama Plauf.
Yes, and I'm from Sweden.
sweden to start on youtube about sex and maybe show some positions and is this going to be sex for between women and men Okay, yeah, I don't think YouTube allows this.
So you may want to consider starting your own site where you're allowed to upload X-rated things.
I need some ghosts to help with this and to get it to be sexy.
I'm nice.
Maybe you are the one that I'm looking for.
I'm pretty sure I'm not.
My camera, maybe one, but Sweden.
Hey, okay.
Can I ask you, what are you doing about the millions of brown people who are invading your country?
Are you doing anything or you just want to start your sex YouTube channel?
Hi, Agam.
Are you living in Sweden?
Yes.
Okay.
Have you noticed the demographics of your country changing the past couple years?
hi again all right i don't I don't think you are a serious caller.
Hi, Agam.
All right.
What a dummy, huh?
That was funny.
Sweden sex channel?
What a weirdo.
All right, let's see here.
Pretty funny.
I'm surprised we haven't had as many, like, you know, haters and trolls because those seem to be a little bit fun.
Not saying that's what I want, but okay.
Caller, you're now live.
Hey, Roose, long time, long time reader.
Okay.
I just wanted to know.
You know, in the past, you've written about the deaths of Night Game.
And you see, things are probably a little bit better on the day game side.
I was just wondering for someone that's kind of intermediate, would you recommend giving up on Night Game to focus on day game specifically, kind of like the one approach mindset?
I think Night Game, and you are from where?
I'm from Southern California.
Okay, I think that Night Game in terms of like happy hours and bars, bars seem to still be fine.
If you can find a bar that's not so dominated by men where the ratio isn't so bad, if I was in the USA right now, I would not step into a club.
There is no reason to step into a club.
It is attention-whoring central.
They're just going there to take their selfies.
They dress up in their heels, not for the men, for themselves to impress other girls on their Instagram.
So I would go to bars instead.
And so if you, but I would do it if you have this natural inclination to staying up to drinking alcohol and try that for a couple of months.
But if you don't like to stay out late, if you don't like the bar scene, if you don't like alcohol, there's no point in doing it.
You know, for me, I've done a couple of cycles of your program on both ends, both night and day.
I did day first and then did night.
And, you know, I don't personally drink when I can go out, but I noticed that my demeanor isn't really a suited for night, but I feel like it has helped in terms of building up more courage.
Yeah.
Like, I feel like, I feel like, you know, my voice projection and stuff like that has gone up.
And also, like, my reticence to physically escalate has gone down with more night game experience.
So I was wondering, you know, I don't want to lose out on those games, but I understand what you're saying in terms of the trends.
So maybe you're saying, you know, maybe supplement day game with the bar scene once you scout out, maybe even happy hours into the night as well, right?
Like just start your night earlier.
Yeah, I mean, a little bit later.
At the end of the day, you should be focusing on the type of venues where the results are starting to come in.
I mean, if the results you get from day and night game is about the same, then do either one.
But if there's one where your results is a lot higher, I would focus on that.
I mean, you don't need to really waste time in bars to build up courage, blah, blah, blah.
You don't need that much courage to approach girls during the day in the sense that they don't expect a whole lot.
You don't have to be smooth.
You don't have to be, you know, perfect game.
No girl expects perfect game during the daytime in the clubs, yes.
But during the day, so I, I mean, it sounds like what I'm hearing from you, night game is not going to really give you an ROI that is actually high.
Okay.
I think it might be more of an ego issue.
Like, you know, the perfectionists kind of want to cover all bases.
It could be.
But I would.
Thank you, Roosh.
Okay, sure thing.
All right.
Have a good night.
I'm starting to get hungry, guys.
I'm getting hungry.
Arnold's getting hungry.
This is four and a half hours.
Jesus Christ.
Oh, I'm so tired.
Let me see.
Did I tweet my Mary Ruchmas live stream?
Yeah, I did that.
Oh, I'm dropping glasses.
All right, let's do one more.
Mary Rushmanus, you're now live.
Hey, Ruch.
Hey, so I was wondering what a young 20-year-old dude can do to meet red pill friends and how he can deal with his blue pill friends who just aren't receptive to the red pill.
Okay, well, one thing that's very consistent that I learned, one of the first things I learned is that you cannot convert a blue pill person at all.
You cannot, it is impossible.
They have to convert themselves.
They have to be ready when they are to want to adopt these ideas.
So, I would kind of keep your blue pill friends away a bit.
Don't tell them what you're doing.
Don't tell them the red pill stuff that you're doing.
Don't tell them the girls that you met.
And just leave them be.
You know, don't get into arguments.
Don't try to convince them.
What you're going to find is the more you get into the red pill, you're just going to kind of, those friends are just going to kind of drop out.
And in terms of meeting and meeting guys who are more red pill, my site, rushvforum.com, is a pretty good place to start.
But just meeting guys who have a normal sex drive, maybe if you're in college or something, meeting guys who support, you know, I don't know, Hunting, Trump, and so on.
But they are out there.
So that's what I would do.
Okay.
Well, yeah, thank you.
All right, buddy.
Bye.
Bye.
Sure.
Merry Christmas.
You too.
That was easy, huh?
That was good.
Okay, let's get this one.
Merry Christmas.
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Hello.
Hello.
A lot of static.
Yeah, man, I can't hear you.
Are you calling from like a laundry machine or something?
Oh, this is really bad.
Try and call back, all right?
Because I can't hear you, man.
I can't hear that.
Come on.
What was that?
I couldn't hear anything.
All right, let's do another one.
Did you just assume it's gender?
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I'm going to kill it.
Caller, you're now live.
Oh, hi, Roosh.
Thank you for doing this.
A quick comment about one of the recent callers and then a personal question to you on behalf of my girlfriend who happened to be Persian.
So a recent caller mentioned that he feels he's missing out.
I found, and I know that my friends found that comparing yourself to others is very distractive.
You know, you can always find someone who is wealthier, better looking, more successful.
We all have our path.
We all have our challenges and our advantages.
So we should make the most out of what we have rather than worry about comparing ourselves.
So I wonder if you agreed with that or not.
And my girlfriend's question is this: considering how beautiful and how feminine Persian girls and Middle Eastern women are, why are you not looking to be with one of your own kind?
She believes that in part it's because they're gold diggers.
And I wonder if she has a point.
Now, is your girlfriend right there?
She's not.
She's a big fan.
I actually wanted to ask you about the bottoming down that NBC bottom down.
I'm calling for the second time she was there, but she's a big fan.
Because if she was there, we would have to get her on.
But first thing I would say is that unfortunately, I don't really have much of the Persian in me in the sense that I don't know the culture, the language.
Meeting a Persian girl, honestly, I don't feel any extra connection than meeting any other girl.
No, American Persian girl, the ones who was born here.
Yeah, but okay, but those girls tend to be the most snobbiest in the USA.
I mean, those girls are really materialistic.
I'm not saying they're digging after my own gold, but they're so shallow, man.
They are so jealous, so backstabby.
I mean, I like how they look.
Their look has there's nothing wrong.
If you give me a Persian girl right now who has the right values, sure.
But the Persian girls in the USA, they think their shit doesn't smell.
They think because they are Persian and they're in the USA that, you know, they're just hot shit.
And I don't like that vibe.
If I wanted that vibe, I date a girl in the USA.
I mean, why would I do that?
Now, if I met a more Persian girl who was just came from Iran, doesn't speak much English, came from a family that I knew that my father knew more of an arranged thing, I would try that.
But a Persian American girl girl is raising the USA.
No way, man.
No way.
Why did you never travel to Iran or surrounding areas, Turkey, because I am like, I'm not unless I meet a girl that is connected to the families of my mom or my dad.
It's just like me traveling anywhere else, man.
Because I don't speak the language.
I'm not them.
They still see me as like this outsider.
And I have talked to my dad about going to Iran at some point.
But unless I'm not going to go there in the capital city and go to the bars and things like that, I mean, or go to the private kind of parties that they have there.
If I would go there, I would get the benefit of the more traditional aspect and get some kind of arranged thing where my family is connected.
My dad's family is connected to this family who knows a girl, who we know is a virgin and this and that.
But I'm not just going to go to, you know, Turkey, Armenia, Iran, and just roll the dice like I can roll the dice in Ukraine, Poland, and so on.
That's understandable.
Well, I appreciate it.
We were very curious about it.
And thank you for answering.
Okay, great.
Bye-bye now.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
Yeah, if I'm going to go get a girl from my ancestral homeland, she's going to be like a serious, arranged marriage.
I'm not going to play game with a Persian girl.
Why would I do that?
I can play games with any girl.
You know, I would want that guaranteed good wife type of deal where she's connected.
She knows like if her family is on board to make sure this marriage works out, you know, I'm not going to just go run game in Iran.
That doesn't make any sense.
Okay.
Let's do this one.
Carla, you're now live.
I'm your first female caller.
Yeah, you sound like a girl, man.
Wow, you're the most feminine girl I've ever heard.
I'm like reading your blog.
This is the worst troll job ever.
You're not supposed to laugh when you're doing it, dude.
I got a question.
I got a question.
Okay, hurry up.
Come on, hurry up.
I have a game.
I have a page.
Oh, God.
Uh-huh.
You're out.
Get out.
Weirdos.
That's the worst fake girl voice ever.
I can do a better fake girl voice.
See, people aren't troll masters like me.
I control, okay?
I was born a troll.
I was trolling my mom when I was in her belly.
You think you control me?
Give me a break.
All right, Carla, you're now live.
Hello?
Yes.
Hello?
Yes, Caller.
Oh, you can hear me?
Yes, I can hear you, and so can everyone else.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I just wanted to answer your question.
I hear you always talking about like stoicism and like different philosophies and stuff.
But like, where is the point where you distinguish that, you know, you're thinking on your own opposed to like just taking this same previous ideas and, you know, just rolling with it, if you get what I'm saying?
You are so connected to the world and to men who've lived before you that there is no thought that comes out of your mind that is truly your own.
Because you are in an environment of other people, you've been educated, constant stimuli that are going at you.
Any thought that comes out of you is technically not your own, whether you read books on stoicism or not.
So to me, the goal is to pick the influences that construct the best thoughts that come out of you.
But yeah, whether it's something is your own or not, that's not important because you are completely influenced by the environment that is around you, that has been constructed since the beginning of man.
And, you know, one man starting a war thousands of years ago has a ripple effect even now.
Yeah, that definitely does make sense.
You know, I even ask myself sometimes, like, you know, how can you even have your own thoughts?
You know, like, yeah, thanks, Roof.
Okay, man.
Bye-bye.
All right.
Take it.
Let's go, this guy.
Caller, you're now live.
Hello?
Yep.
Can you hear me?
Yes, I can.
What's up, Roof?
Longtime readers.
Okay.
One statement to make another question.
Okay, go ahead.
And my first statement is I believe the only way to save Western societies is to legalize prostitution.
Okay.
What do you think about that?
Don't we already have that?
In the sense that we have a bunch of girls that are trading their bodies for what?
Fun status, free dinners and drinks?
Yes, but the way it has to be done is there has to be a brothel within a five-mile radius.
So these guys are spending their time chasing girls and can directly exchange money for sex.
Okay, well, then I can say that this exists in a lot of countries.
Germany in particular has this.
Germany has like a system of legal brothels.
Yet Germany is even more cucked than the USA.
So you're saying that.
So what I'm saying is that even if your idea is true, it comes true, it ain't going to change shit.
Because I think, I believe that Western civilization is pretty much doomed.
We're not going to return to the 1950s, as you kind of assume.
And the faster that we can take away the, as you call it, currency of attention from women and have them compete for our attention, the better we can, I mean, the faster we can turn around the degradation that's been happening.
And I believe the only way to do it is to make them compete for our attention by saying that here's sex that's directly available in this brothel where a guy doesn't have to put in all this time, effort, and energy.
It can just go in and exchange currency for sex.
I don't think it's going to help as much as you think.
It could help a bit, but now girls are really whoring themselves out anyway.
You know, and just maybe there isn't a direct transaction doesn't mean that if you open a brothel in every town, suddenly all the girls will escape their cultural programming and be good girls.
So I don't, it could have an effect.
I don't think it's going to solve all problems like you are saying now.
Because if we look at countries where this actually exists, it's still bad.
Other than Germany, what countries would you say have that?
I know a lot of South American countries have that.
Colombia, Brazil has it.
Right.
And the culture there, right?
As compared to the U.S.
But let me ask you this: do you sleep with girls for money?
I mean, usually a guy who pushes this is trying to normalize what he's already kind of doing.
No, I actually don't.
So, how do you know it's going to work?
I'll tell you why I think it's going to work for the same reason that right now cryptocurrency is sweeping kind of the country and just the world.
People are refusing to use the old systems, right?
Where money was controlled by a certain entity or a certain group of people, the Jews.
They're trying to exit that and take that control.
The only way that men can take back control is by having obviously an abundance mentality, but for a lot of these guys that are out there spending so much time and effort trying to learn game, dealing with all the bullshit, if they can transact directly with these women who are selling themselves anyway, and I'm sure that why ought to do it, that time could be better spent doing something far more productive.
And how about if we allow the hookers to accept cryptocurrency?
That like combines two things, right?
Don't they already?
I think some of them do, but anyway.
All right, man.
Thank you very much for calling.
I have a question.
Okay, hurry up.
I'm getting tired.
Hurry up.
I'm tired.
Okay, dude.
So I've been reading you for a long time.
I'm also a little bit older.
How would you say the game has to pivot for older guys who are only interested in sleeping with girls from 18 to 25 because I have no interest in women over 25?
Okay.
Okay.
How old are you?
I'm 32.
And you call yourself older?
Dude, you are still a young man, unless you look really old.
It didn't like.
No, no, you shouldn't be.
I mean, it depends on where you are, but I had no problems being 32 in the USA.
Girls don't even know.
I mean, only after 35 do you start to notice.
So I think the age you think age is hurting you.
It is not yet.
So it must be something else is lacking from your game that's causing you not to get these girls.
Maybe your standards are just kind of high.
You know, but I can tell you that there's nothing of a 32-year-old man.
You should be able to date anything.
I have absolutely no problem with anything from 28 to 21 and up.
It depends on where you are, but it's not age only.
It's the type, it's what kind of man the girl wants.
You're probably just like a random guy.
You cold approach a hot 22-year-old girl who's plugged into a social circle with a lot of Chads and getting 100 Tinder matches every day.
Of course, it's hard, but it's not because you're older, it's because you don't have the value that these younger girls actually want.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
No problem.
Bye-bye.
So I'm getting a little bit tired.
So when I'm tired, I get more testy.
All right.
Don't take it in the wrong way.
If you're calling now, you got the worst of me, the worst.
Tired, Ruch, hungry.
I'm going to have to pee again.
I'm angry.
Now, who's this caller?
Caller, you're now live.
Hey, can you hear me, Rooch?
Yes, I can.
Hey, big fan, longtime reader.
You're awesome.
Keep it up.
I have one question for you.
Since we can't all disappear to Eastern Europe, we got to work our regular jobs.
What do you suggest as a best red pill city for a guy to live in that's in his early 30s right now?
And I'll even narrow the scope.
Okay.
Let's focus on the southwest region of the U.S. Give me your suggestions, please.
Let me pull a map of the USA.
Map of USA.
And I mean, I'm trying to look at folks at areas where I'm not going to catch a false race charge.
Let's do Utah, Colorado.
Okay.
I mean, from what I hear, Utah is the most conservative, but you got to convert maybe to Mormonism, which, but look, if you, yeah, I don't know either, but I would say, but if you go to Salt Lake City, and some of those girls aren't completely into it, so you may be able to get a little taste of what it's like.
Let's do Colorado, Utah, maybe Nevada, Idaho, if you want to go a bit higher.
I would like, if I were you, I would focus, I would focus on that general area because we know Arizona and New Mexico is kind of like a bluer states, I think.
But you could try smaller towns.
Colorado is now, too.
I know, I know.
I've actually heard that.
But they're all better than Washington, Oregon, California, right?
So I think anywhere besides California.
That little cut of the U.S. there.
Try to take one week, like take a trip of one week to these, to like a city, a place that you've heard is kind of good.
And just see, just go there, you know, chat up girls every day.
Just say hi, how are you?
Ask them where you can find this, find that, just to get a vibe and see if you can meet a girl.
If it's good, then plan a longer trip.
Okay?
I was looking for this magic city, but no one really knows.
But thank you.
Keep up the great work.
Love you.
All right, man.
Okay.
YouTube.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Bye-bye.
Yeah.
So the main idea is to, whenever you're thinking a place could be good, take a trip first.
Don't just move, you know.
Just because you heard me say a place is good, don't just go there.
So take like a one-week trip just to get a feel for it.
Talk to 20 girls or so during that time.
See, is it a place that it's worth staying for longer term in the sense that you can maybe take a little break from your job or save up some money to fund that?
You know, so it's one step at a time.
My first week out of the USA was just a one-week trip, you know, and then it got longer, turned to 10 days, and two weeks, then months, and so on.
All right, let's see here.
Oh, I think this is the 4chan troll.
Here we go.
All right, caller.
You are now live.
Oh, hello.
Is that Rouge?
Yes, it is.
Yes, it is.
I thought, oh, hold on.
I thought.
Okay, first of all, I thought you were someone else.
So you are not.
So go on.
Your name?
Okay.
My name is Mandeep.
I'm calling from the United Kingdom.
Okay.
I just wanted to ask you, I've been living in the United Kingdom now for maybe six weeks.
I'm from India.
Okay.
And I'm wondering what is the best form of approach for meeting girls?
Is it day game, night game?
You know, what is your advice?
You know, unfortunately, I am not allowed to enter the UK anymore, so I don't even know.
But from what I hear.
I saw the Japan from UK.
Yeah.
And are you in London or a different city?
I'm studying at the university.
You don't have to say where.
You don't have to say where.
Okay.
Okay.
You don't have to tell me everything.
All right.
So what I would do is since you're in school.
I talked to some girls on this.
Since you're in school, focus.
No, no, no, no.
Listen, focus on making some friends in the university.
Because this is a big advantage that you have over a guy such as me.
You are plugged into a university where there's a lot of girls.
There's a lot of also a lot of those girls are from other countries too.
And focus on being a social guy.
Make some friends.
All right.
Don't just go out and run around on the streets.
Make some friends.
Build a social circle, especially since you are not a native.
You have some disadvantages.
So focus on making friends first.
Be a social guy.
Be a guy that gives value.
And then after you start to get the hang of it, since you've only been in UK for a short amount of time, then you can start to broaden your wings a bit more.
So that's what I would do.
All right.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Bye-bye.
Yeah, dude, you've been in the country for six weeks.
It's going to take time.
All right.
Because again, some girls in England value maybe the Spanish man, the French man, the Italian man, but you know, Indian, maybe not so much.
Okay, let's do this guy.
Caller, you're now live.
Hey, Roche.
Hello.
Great.
Roosh, I wanted to ask you, like, what do you, every month, it seems like there's some new like frontier of degeneracy that the media is pushing on us that we're supposed to accept.
What do you think is going to come next?
And what do you think is the end game of this nonsense?
You know, there really isn't a whole lot left.
Once you start trying to change the gender, the sex of little girls and boys, and once you start, you know, allowing the grooming gangs in England to molest kids and let these criminals get away with it, where else is there to go?
I mean, I think we're kind of at or close to what the bottom is, which is kind of good.
I mean, it's good that it's not going to get way worse than it is now.
I don't know how it could, unless we invent some new thing of watching humans have sex with animals.
Maybe that'll be the next hot thing.
I don't know.
But I think it's going to slow down to how far down we actually go.
In terms of where things are going to go, I mean, the problem is I think humans have become so weak from being raised in such a comfortable environment where their survival was never at stake.
I don't really think they have enough to fight back.
So I wouldn't expect that.
I wouldn't expect this massive uprising, a revolution.
It could be, if it happens, it's going to be very local.
Like a certain state, a certain city or town is going to fight back.
But I wouldn't expect this national thing where the whole country starts to wake up.
Okay.
All right.
Thanks, Roof.
No problem.
Bye-bye.
You know, just when I think this queue is getting down, more people call.
Oh, no.
Oh, Lord.
Let's do.
Okay, let's do two more calls.
Two more, and then I'm done.
All right, Carla, you're now live.
Yes, hello.
My name is Sam.
I have a question.
You know how there's always like a new victim group in the media that we have to like ponder to and care about?
Like, first it was like one week is the gays, then it's like women, then it's like trans people or non-binaries.
What do you think is like the next group that's going to become like, you know, rise to the top of the victim hierarchy?
People who identify as like an animal or like an, I mean, I don't know, man.
I really, you know what?
Honestly, I'm trying to block that stuff up, block that stuff out.
Like lately, I've been blocking the social justice stuff out.
Because if you get too into it, man, it's just, it starts to drag you down because you start to see only the negative side of what human beings are capable of.
And human beings, we have to be honest, we're a flawed species.
And while some of us have taken the red pill and are trying to live our lives the best as we can, most human beings are not trying that.
In fact, the percentage of men who have taken the red pill is very small, very small.
So I think maybe focusing on people around us who are similar to us is a better idea than knowing what these the most degenerate human beings in the most degenerate age of human history, what they are doing.
Because if you do that, it's going to get really dark.
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Okay.
Just one more thing.
Okay.
Hi.
My name is Slama.
And I'm from Cochrane, Sweden.
I intend to start exercising on YouTube.
Oh, this guy again.
You weirdo.
You're such a weirdo, dude.
Okay.
The weirdo thing.
Sweden, my ass.
That was funny.
Let's do cold again.
He got in twice.
That's good.
This guy, he was persistent, huh?
He was a persistent troll.
I like that.
I can admire that.
That's something I can admire.
Good old Sweden.
All right, caller.
You are the last caller.
Merry Christmas.
Hey, America Smithman.
Hey, what's up, Roos?
Quick question.
I'd like some advice for young men who kind of seek like a dual lifestyle.
Because as of right now, my plan is to kind of live a life you live to traveling, but also I wouldn't like to completely give up my career prospects.
Right now, I'm currently in.
Can you hear me?
Yes, yes.
Yeah, yeah.
And I wouldn't like to like destroy my career if I, you know, travel the world for eight years.
So like, what advice would you give to young men seeking like kind of best of both worlds, kind of what you did?
And then like that, just stable nine to five lifestyle.
Okay, how old are you?
21.
21.
I mean, you can have it both ways.
You either have the established career or you don't.
And one thing at least, don't start a blog where you write about this stuff.
Okay.
Don't start like a red pill blog or YouTube channel where you're saying how you're banging hoes and Ukraine has the best girls and you're just a pimp because that's gonna be found out.
So you can have a career, but don't sabotage that by doing what I did by, well, putting your name out there.
And I didn't put my name out there.
I was found out, but still, now it's done.
So that's what I would do.
But how are you going to work a nine to five and want to take extended trips?
I guess the only way would be to, you know, become an entrepreneur.
Right.
So one thing you can do is this: work the nine to five now, but save up a lot.
So spend the next couple years saving, saving, saving, building up a skill set that you can then use to start your own business that is kind of mobile a bit.
You know, so then after that, you start a business, you have some money saved up in case things go south with the business.
And that's it.
I think.
So what I would do is put yourself on a four-year kind of time span.
And during this time where you're working and saving cash, work on your game too.
Because when you leave the USA, if that's where you are, things don't magically get easier.
I mean, it's actually harder.
A lot of people say, oh, you leave the USA because you can't get laid with the girls.
Hey, it's easier in the USA, asshole.
It's harder abroad, man.
There's so many factors, variables that you just don't encounter.
So I would work on your game, make your money strong.
So when you're 25, if you want to strike out on your own, it's way easier.
And when you do so, don't blog about it so that in case your foreign adventures don't last a while or it's not something you want to stick with, then you can go back home and resume your nine-to-five.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Thank you very much.
Hey, thank you, London.
Okay, we are done.
Sorry to everyone else who was on board.
We have four more callers who are waiting.
I'm sorry.
I have to go.
I have to eat dinner.
I have to call home.
Make sure everything is going well.
And hey, it was such a pleasure for you to be with me for five hours.
I thought I was going to do this for one hour.
Five hours.
And I feel like shit right now.
Desi, that's how you know you are an introvert when you're talking and you're drained.
I feel like I ran a marathon, even though I'm just sitting on my ass.
That's how you know.
And if I was a girl, I'd have even more energy because look at all the people I'm talking to.
But I'm not a girl, guys.
I'm not.
I don't identify as one.
So on behalf of Arnold and me, thank you for this very successful Mary Ruchmas.
Thanks to anyone who donated super chats.
I will spend that money on blow and hookers and cryptocurrency.
So guys, I hope you have a great day.
And I'll hope to do this again soon.
Okay.
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