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Nov. 9, 2017 - Roosh V - Daryush Valizadeh
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The Black Pill (Kingmaker Podcast)
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Welcome to Kingmaker.
I'm your host, Ruch V, and today's episode is on the black pill.
First, let's define what the black pill is.
I would define it as extreme acceptance.
It's not doing anything to improve society and in many cases, yourself.
I see it as a sort of bemused hopelessness, that the problems of the world are so huge that practically nothing can be done to solve it.
And it's best for you just to sit back and laugh at the devil's work.
Usually, the black pill comes after taking the red pill.
And as you already know, the red pill is about knowing the truth about the sexes, about society, politics, and so on.
Usually, the red pill puts men on a self-improvement path.
And learning game is one form of the red pill that you take on the sexes.
And this usually results, if you learn game and you put the work involved into it, to better relationships with women.
Even just knowing how attraction works without actually having to do any of the game work will still improve your odds.
But even with the truth, even knowing the absolute truth about everything or what you are able to know, you still hit a wall.
You hit constraints built into the universal system that you simply cannot overcome or pass.
One example is, let's say you know that in your corporate job, you shouldn't be alone in a room with a woman so you don't get falsely accused of sexual harassment.
But that still won't stop a woman from just fabricating a story completely out of thin air.
Even though you were never alone in a room with her, she may claim that you were.
And until that accusation can be disproved, it's going to cause you a lot of stress and problems at work.
Another example, you can know all the game in the world, but does that mean you are definitely going to be successful in meeting the love of your life or creating a family and then having that family stay healthy and without getting a divorce, without your wife cheating on you and so on?
No, it can't because game can improve the odds of good things happening to you while minimizing the odds of bad things happening to you.
But so much is still out of your control.
You can only control what you are doing, what you think and how you behave, but you can control other people.
And the universe, the world is made mostly of other people who you cannot control.
I'm a good example that no matter how much individual improvement you do, you can still fall short of any goal that you set.
Such as, you know, I studied the game intensely for many years.
I slept with many beautiful women around the world.
I wrote about it.
I taught other men, but I'm 38 and single, even though I wouldn't have minded at this point to be firm with a woman that I could create a family with.
And that's because simply that my most promising relationships failed to go on to the next stage.
And it's because I, with all the game in the world, I can't control the values of the women I meet.
I can't control the decisions that they make.
So we're getting to the realization that the truth cannot solve all your problems.
You cannot cheat existence by simply knowing what the reality of that existence is.
So what happens is your red pills start to gain streaks of black.
You become perhaps frustrated, disappointed.
Life hasn't given you what you want, even though you did everything in your power to get it.
The black pill is best personified in the Lincoln Park song In the End.
And the lair goes, I tried so hard and I got so far, but in the end, it doesn't really matter.
And that's the black pill to a T, saying that no matter what I do, no matter how hard I work, no matter how much I self-improve, there is this force that wants to stop me from really seeing an improvement in the world around me.
And there's a couple signs that you're moving from the red pill to the black pill.
And I'm assuming if you're listening to this podcast, you're already red-pilled.
One sign that you're getting black pilled is that you don't debate people anymore, especially liberals.
You feel that it's kind of hopeless to reach anyone, that people are so wrapped up in their worldview, unable to see the truth that there really is no point even talking to them.
So when you read stories about the latest outrage about transsexual men using the women's room, you kind of just roll your eyes at it now instead of getting angry.
So if you're getting angry at it, that means you haven't, you're not approaching the black pill yet.
But if you're like, oh, well, if you maybe even laugh at it and just wonder why the world is so sick and crazy, then that's a sign that you're taking the black pill.
The second sign is that you watch the news every day waiting for some serious bad shit to go down, mostly as a means of entertainment.
So if there's a nuclear bomb that goes off in a place that you don't know or don't care about, you may get excited because you know at least for a couple of days you can watch this human drama unfold.
So this shows that you are starting to detach from humanity.
You're starting to not care as much.
You're reaching a very high level of apathy.
The third sign you're getting black pilled is when you've lost all hope of finding a woman that you could love, of ever having a family, children.
And instead, you mostly settle on just getting sex when you can.
So it's some guys, they don't even run game at all.
They just want, they're kind of modern day monks in that they don't want to deal with it.
They think women is too much headache, too much labor than the reward that the women may give them.
Other men, such as me, put in perspective what a woman can do and what they can't.
But if you still have a very healthy sex drive and there are sluts in front of your door walking by, parading their butt and their boobs, and you have an idea of how attraction works and how to go up to a woman, you're going to do it.
You're still going to do it.
You may not be as Dedicated as maybe when you were young, when you were in that notch-building phase, but you still want to perform the masculine activity of sex.
And the fourth sign that you're getting black pilled is that you frame everything you do, all your behavior in terms of solely your own self-interest.
You really don't care about other people.
And before you enter any endeavor, any relationship, you ask yourself, What is in it for me?
So, this is a selfishness that I'm not saying is bad, but it's really focused on me, me, me.
It's a hyper-individualism that if I am, if something is not going to improve me or benefit me in any way, I'm not going to even entertain it.
Now, all that said, the black pill is inevitable in declining societies.
You know, when there are too many enemies around you, when men are being attacked, when it's hard to make a living in a healthy way, when you have to put on this actor's mask to filter everything you say in the public sphere,
when you notice that your own individual or group effort, maybe you have, maybe you're close with your family or friends, when that's not enough to turn the tide against the sickness that you see every day, it is inevitable that you will go black pill.
We have to understand that historically, the black pill were philosophies like stoicism and Tao.
A very strong, there's always a very strong component of accepting your fate, of rioting this wave of time that you cannot really, really change.
So, men who felt that there was no hope to improve their situation is going to gravitate towards a philosophy, towards an ideology that tells them just to accept it.
Don't worry about it, don't try to change anything, worry about yourself.
So, that's a sign.
So, taking the black pill, if you see a lot of men doing that, which I do, is really more a sign of the society they're living in than them.
Because if these men were living in an age that was more hopeful, that was more opportunities for men to make a positive difference, for men to feel that the truth is being rewarded in public,
that bad people are not being elevated above them, there really would be a small, not really a big reason to take the black, black pill because there's so many opportunities for you just to be a man to live according to your nature and so on.
But in a period of a declining civilization, the black pill is going to be one of the more obvious options.
So, and what I do, I track online at least, is this black pill sentiment going up or down?
And where that sentiment goes is telling me where civilization is.
And unfortunately, I see this black pill sentiment growing.
A lot of men want to give up, and even more so, they want to convince other men to give up too.
They want to say, Why are you trying?
Why are you wasting your time doing this?
So, at one point, taking the black pill makes logical sense based on the environment, but at some point, it can transform into crabs in a bucket.
Because if you have given up hope of gaining anything positive in life, you really don't want to see other men getting positive things too.
So, now it becomes this snowball going down a mountain where people want to, when one person goes black pill, they want other people too.
Because if I go black pill and give up on girls, which I have not, but if I did, I don't want to see other men banging hot, hot, hot girls.
I don't want to see other men having a happy family.
If I see a man get married and I took the black pill, therefore I have to rationalize.
I have to say, oh, well, he's going to get divorce raped anyway, or his wife is going to get fat anyway.
So this is how when you take a little bit of black could reflect the reality you are in, but too much is just going to turn you into a kind of a bitter, jaded person who really doesn't want to see other people do well.
One problem with the black pill is that a man's instinct is to change his environment, to make a difference, to improve his situation, to invent things, to make others around him happy and feel good.
So taking the black pill goes against your instincts because you now consciously decide to not act, to not improve, to not change anything.
So you have to learn that.
You have to actually learn not to do anything because your instinct is to do something.
Your ego constantly is telling you to achieve, to build status, to become important.
So I see the black pill as a learned behavior when a man sees that his actions are repeatedly not leading to what his outcome is.
So the usual trajectory of men is they go from blue pill of when they're living in this false reality where the things they believe are simply not true to the red pill where they start to believe what is true and they make some measure, some movement to self-improve, to get what they want, whether it's women or money or they maybe hit the road and travel.
But then if once he hits a wall there, and you always will hit the wall in the material world, you simply can't have it all.
You can't accomplish all the dreams that you want, whether you have the truth or not, then the black pill is next.
And that transition from red pill to black pill will be faster the farther that society has degraded.
A lot of people like to compare the black pill to nihilism.
And they're similar, but there is still a difference in my mind.
I think nihilism is essentially there is no purpose.
There is no reason for anything.
We're just random assemblies of atoms and molecules that is on a rock hurdling through space.
But the black pill is more of nothing can be done.
There is no point to act, to change anything.
So I don't think the black pill tries to explain what existence or reality is.
It's really how to respond to it, how to respond to an existence that at many times can appear very futile.
Now, on an individual level, I'm not black pill.
My life is a great example how self-improvement, game, travel can greatly alter your existence.
And you are listening to me right now based on work I did, based on action I did, which got your attention in some way or another.
Maybe you heard me through a friend, you Googled me, or you Googled a topic and landed on one of my sites.
But on a societal level, I am black pilled.
I don't believe that we can overcome such severe problems.
And in fact, if you study history, it is almost impossible, I don't think, to really find an example on when a civilization has declined to such an point that the West has.
And I think the line was promoting transsexuals.
I think no other declining or dead civilization went that far.
So we even went farther than that.
I think once you get there, the problems are so big that you cannot reverse it.
I can give you solutions all day.
I have tried.
I think my most recent one is removing the right to vote for women since they constantly vote for leftist causes, which are accelerating the decline.
Even if you implement every solution I advise, we have to accept that there is some spiritual component that is not logically based.
There is a wave of history turning and many civilizations in the past just get caught under it.
And it seems like the cycle is that a civilization has to die.
A sick one has to die for a healthy one to be born again.
So I'm not convinced on the societal level that we can really change anything, but I'm more focused on individually helping men, helping you.
Because I see in my own life, I have taken individual action that has made my life better.
Now, it hasn't made it perfect.
As I described earlier, hey, I'm 38.
I'm single.
I don't have any, I don't have a family, which at this age, you know, would be the right time.
But I rather have my life now than before I took the red pill when, look, I was stuck in a corporate job, wasn't getting late at all, and so on.
So, but I understand that there is a wall.
Okay, you self-improve, but you're going to hit a wall at some point.
What you do when you hit that wall says a lot about your inner thinking, your inner feelings, and the environment around you.
Because we have to consider that men who want to change the world, such as myself up to a certain extent, have to maintain a level of delusion to actually do it, to think that you, who is just one part of the entire whole on the planet of billions of people, of trillions of moving parts, can actually make a difference.
Now, I'm not saying a man can't make a difference, but to believe you can and to act on it takes a level of delusion that will meet reality at some point.
You know, I have found out that if I try to change things to a certain extent, that the world that I'm trying to change will change me back in an equal proportion to what I am doing.
So it's not like you exist separate from everything else.
You are completely connected to everything.
And that's where the Taoist phrase, especially if you listen to Alan Watts, who is more in Zen, says that you are the universe.
Everything that you see is a reflection of you since you're all part of the entire whole.
That tells us that being black pilled is more a reflection of our environment than who we really are.
You are who you are because of your environment.
Your genes, your genetics are nothing until it interfaces with some environment, until your genes hit something in the physical world.
And that interfacing will be different depending on the environment you happen to be in.
So for example, let's imagine you were born in a black box.
You never left that box and was fed through a slit in the door three times a day.
Would you be the same person if you were raised in that black box than you are now?
Of course not.
And we've actually seen this accidentally with feral children who are born in the wild and don't make any contact with human beings.
You know, they crawl on all fours.
They make animal noises.
They can't speak.
You know, they are still human beings, but they act nothing like human beings.
And that's because they have become a reflection of that wild environment that they were in.
And you are no different.
Instead of you being born in a wild environment, you were born and raised in a toxic one.
Consider that a lot of the negative feelings you may feel, such as hopelessness, anxiety, depression, nervousness, fearfulness, that is really a transformation of the environment's energy into you, into human form.
You are just a vessel for transmitting this free energy that is in the environment somewhere.
Because if you were living in a golden age of conquest and victory and hope, you would not feel the same emotions you feel if the environment is as toxic as it is now.
So instead of you being born in the wild and being raised by wolves who teach you how to bark and do really animalistic things, you are instead raised in a really degenerate environment that has kind of normalized behaviors in your mind that make you feel anxiety, that make you feel upset, that make you feel like there's no meaning, and so on.
Understand that humans have a very sensitive antenna.
We feel everything.
Even you can be easily affected by a painting, a song, a loud noise coming from a truck, a joke, a room that is dirty.
All these things, these small things that you take for granted, they affect you constantly.
Now, if that dirty room, which makes you feel disgusted, is actually a dirty world, a dirty country, a dirty city, and you experience it daily, this dirtiness would bury deep down into your psyche and make you a product of that without you knowing, without you realizing this is why I feel dirty.
Because when you are raised in an environment, you don't, you are unable to judge objectively what that environment is.
A feral child who is raised in the wild, when she gets 12, before humans find her, she's going to think that that wild environment is normal.
But then when you see her and she acts like a savage, you know something is wrong.
So I am convinced that if we get a human being that was raised in a healthy environment, maybe thousands of years ago, and then have them meet us, they would be astonished at how awful we are, how sick we are, and how some of the behaviors that we do probably would absolutely disgust them.
So that leads to one good thing about the black pill is that you stop looking inward to this cause of depression, anxiety, and hopelessness and meaninglessness.
Instead, you start to look outward and understand that it's your environment.
You were raised in a bad environment.
I am hopeless for the future, not because I am a hopeless man, but because of the container that I happen to be born in during the time I happen to be born in.
You know, it's not my fault.
There is no reason to be upset that I feel these things, that I have failed to get things that maybe were easy for my father or for my grandfathers.
You know, it's not a problem with me.
I am not a deficient human being.
I mean, compared to other people.
You know, I'm just a little unlucky to be put into this environment at this specific, specific time.
Now, if I don't believe that, if I believe that this anxiety that I feel or this lack of meaning I feel is really me, is really a problem with me, maybe a genetic problem with me.
I am going to hop from one pseudo-scientific theory to the next to solve this internal angst, this internal deficiency.
You know, maybe I'll bang a lot of girls for a while thinking that's going to make me happy.
Then maybe I'll get obsessed with my body, you know, a slight body dysmorphic disorder, get obsessed with the gym.
Then I'm going to hop to maybe I have to go and travel a lot.
Then maybe I'll focus on money because I want to buy some expensive toys.
And then maybe I'll try meditation because I hear that that's going to go well.
And then on and on, the merry-go-round, because you think there's a problem with you and something in the external world can fix it, but nothing can.
Because this environment that we are in automatically builds into the cake this chronic dissatisfaction, this chronic, I feel like something is missing.
I feel like meaning is missing from my life.
So when you take the black pill, at least you see it's not me.
So that's one of the benefits of when you accept.
When you accept this is how it is.
I don't have to worry about it.
It's not really a problem that I should fix or it's not a problem that I can fix because unless I can change my environment completely, which I cannot, then it's better to just live as I am.
So accept the environment for what it is.
Accept its impact on you despite you knowing the truth of the situation and let the most negative parts of that environment just harmlessly flow through you as harmlessly as possible.
You know, this is why acceptance is so important to Stoicism, Buddhism, and Tao.
I mean, if you don't accept, you're just going to fight.
You're going to fight something you cannot win.
Now, I know you may be thinking, well, acceptance is defeat.
It's better to resist.
We can change things.
Now, the problem is what is the line that you draw in the sand where you resist versus when you don't resist?
You know, say a man comes up to you in a coffee shop and punches you right in the chest, a man that you don't know.
Then he cocks his arm back and gets ready to hit you once more.
Do you just take the second punch or do you resist him?
I would guess that you're going to do something to resist him.
In fact, the line to resisting in this case may be far earlier, such as when he gets in your personal space.
You'll probably stop him before he can even land that first punch.
Okay, let's try another example.
Let's just say a multinational Forbes 500 corporation sold you a defective product that costs $50.
They haven't refunded your money.
They refuse to.
Now, do you let it go or do you resist by writing letters, calling them multiple times, starting a blog that complains about them, putting the time to do that, calling your congressman and so on?
For $50, I would let it go.
Now, does that mean I am a coward?
Does that mean that I like to lose?
Well, it just means that this company did not come close to my line of resistance where I felt that my physical being, that my emotional well-being was at stake if I didn't fight back.
I actually wrote an article, which I'll put in the show notes, which is called the Resistance Pyramid.
Now, I advocate for resistance when it's local and personal, when it's directly affecting your safety or that of your tribe, such as your family and friends, and is centered around your home, centered around where you live.
Resistance is most likely to have a strong impact and feel the most natural to do.
But when you're fighting an ideology, when you're fighting anonymous enemies online, national governments, big bureaucracies, you will expend a lot of energy for probably no results.
You'll end up martyring yourself and you're not Jesus.
So it probably won't pay off for your cause.
Now, a general rule that I believe in is that unless you can see your enemy and get face to face with him, resisting is probably not worth it.
One example where recently I didn't resist is when PayPal shut me down.
Now, I didn't do anything.
I basically did a forum thread on RooshviForum.com saying how this is what PayPal did and it sucks.
And that was it.
You know, even though this cost me and it still is costing me hundreds of dollars every month, I didn't launch a jihad against PayPal, this Silicon Valley, the Silicon Valley company.
Now, compare that to something that happened over the summer.
So I was taking a yoga class.
And before you laugh and say I'm drinking soy, it's because I know the female to male ratio at yoga is very high.
So I went, I'll be honest, for the women.
So there was a free yoga event outside and it was in a park.
And I was doing the yoga.
I was feeling pretty gay doing it, but I don't care.
And about halfway through, these punk kids close to me got a portable speaker and blasted hip-hop.
And this was really ruining my yoga.
I mean, how can you do yoga when this foul music comes on?
They're laughing.
They're having a great time.
It was about six of them, half girls and half guys.
Now, since I'm a guest in a foreign country, I don't think it's my job to blast the locals for their disrespectful behavior.
So, I was waiting for someone else in the yoga class to actually do it.
But you can imagine this class is full of girls who don't like confrontation and full of soy boys who probably have never been in a fight ever and who believe in nonviolence and so on.
So, I'm really thinking if I should go and do something because I'm getting mad.
And then I started to smell weed.
There's smoking weed outside.
Now, that was it.
My line was definitely crossed.
I got up and in the nicest but very stern way, I told them to fuck off.
I said, This is rude.
You can't be doing this.
You can't smoke weed here and you're ruining everything.
And they got up and they left.
And then the yoga class gave me a standing ovation.
No, I'm kidding.
No one actually did anything, but I still felt like a hero anyway.
So my line, so I was ready to fight.
I was ready to fight these kids.
They were about 16 because they ruined my yoga experience.
But just a couple months before, a company shut down my account that has cost me thousands of dollars.
So that just tells you when it's local and personal, resisting will be a natural thing.
You will not even have to debate it.
You won't even have to really list the pros and cons.
Should I fight back?
You just do it.
But then you may say that, hey, well, I have a lot of downtime.
I can spend my days spreading red pills online.
I could be making memes and so on.
Now, I think that if you want to do that, if you want to do this global informational warfare, then you should do it as long as it is fun, as long as you can make some maybe online friends doing it,
as long as you can practice making your memes, tending to your meme garden, with the understanding that this kind of vague internet action is a drop in the bucket of a collectivist strategy that probably won't change your day-to-day life.
You know, when I went up to the yoga kids, my life changed as soon as they walked off.
I went from being upset that I couldn't practice the gay yoga in a peaceful, serene manner to being very happy that that hip-hop and that weed was just gone.
So, but if I fight against a big corporation such as PayPal, one, I'm probably not going to win unless I'm a rich guy already who can hire some lawyers.
And two, what will I win if I spend all these hours and this make internet sites and articles fighting them?
I probably won't gain a lot.
They're not going to reactivate my account.
So I always, so whenever I look to resist, it should be that if you win, you win immediately.
You can see the night and day difference between when you are losing and when you begin to win outside of school or work, I will guess that you probably have not encountered a battle where your resistance line, the local and personal line, has been met.
I'm going to guess you haven't had a big fight yet.
So what do you do in the meantime?
How do you live within a society that is getting worse day by day, where the battle hasn't come to your front door, but you feel like something should be done, that even though there are strains of black pill within the red pills that you did take, you still haven't lost all hope.
You still think that improvements can be made.
So, first of all, we have to look at what men of the past did.
And when men were facing a hopeless situation that they could not overcome when the powers that be were just too strong, too authoritarian, they, like I said, took up stoicism, Buddhism, Taoism, or just even plain old Christianity of believing that this evil that you're forced to live beside is a part of God's plan.
Many men just become monks.
They try to preserve their traditions, their wisdom in books that can be passed on to the next generation when the environment is not as bad, not as toxic.
Another option is that men become more solitary-minded.
They pursue an existence that disconnects themselves from the toxic environment and people as much as they possibly can.
In a modern way, if you did that, it would be kind of going to a rural area, getting a little homestead, a little farm, and minimizing your interactions with the universities, with the government, with women, and so on.
One thing you have to keep in mind is that if your society really is collapsing and pure evil is taking hold, which I believe it is, I believe in 2017, we are living in an age of pure evil that may pass any other evil period that has taken place.
And you, during this time, put the burden on your shoulders to solve this great evil, you will suffer greatly.
You will basically forsake your life to solving this instead of taking the individual action that can mitigate it.
Now, I'm not saying that all individual action will completely shield the evil from your life because you're going to be interacting with people who have not taken a strong stand against the evil as you have.
So it will still find a way to seep into you, mostly through women, because they are very vulnerable.
They are more sensitive to the environment.
So if the environment is evil, you will see more of that embed itself into the women than into the men.
Because men always have these options.
We can take up stoicism, go into the woods and live a solitary existence.
But have you seen a woman ever do that?
Have you ever seen a woman take up a solitary existence and go into the woods?
Even if a woman becomes a nun, they still live in a convent where they're with other nuns.
So understand that women are greatly dependent on the environment more so than men are.
So if you decide to fight this, and I don't fault you if you do, your life will be very difficult.
You basically open a door for this evil to face you face to face because you have to kill some kind of enemy.
You have to face him.
So one option is not to face him, just to close that door on him and try to construct your own happy place, your own shield away.
So this is where it's a little bit difficult on what to do.
But I can tell you that at some point, whatever you decide, you're going to have to accept that it's not your fault that the world is the way it is, that you are not the cause of what the world is doing.
that it's not your responsibility to fix it.
And that if you want to fix it, your impact is going to be in direct proportion to how what you're trying to impact changes you.
Therefore, if you change the world by an X amount, the world you're changing is going to therefore have to change you by an X amount too.
So it has to be equal.
Now, I don't want this toxic environment to continue interfacing with me in a sense that it has the ability to actually change me.
I found out when I did the ROK meetups in early 2016 that the world can harm me greatly if I try to change it.
So now my line in terms of changing the world has fallen, has fallen back because I see that the world, if this evil gets angry and you rouse it enough, it can really fight you back.
I find that knowing when to act is more an emotional choice than a logical.
When you feel yourself ready to fight due to an acute situation that is right in front of you, your line was crossed and you will probably act without having a plan, without having to think of it.
But if you don't act when the fight is close, when your emotional core decided to do it, it will be harder to live with yourself as a man after that.
So the best advice I can give you is to be ready when the moment comes.
Now, there are bits of black pill in me, particularly when it comes to changing society, the world, and reversing the civilizational decline that the West finds itself in.
But I can see firsthand how my work helps men, hopefully such as yourself.
The daily emails of thanks I get show that you really can make a difference and enjoy yourself doing it because I like to write.
I like to do podcasts such as this when I have time.
You don't have to suffer or to be a martyr to help others.
I'm not suffering right now, but I hope that this podcast is helping you in some way to help you realize what you are up against.
So every day I work and I write.
I'm working on two books right now.
But I know that as the world seems to collapse upon itself, there will be a moment more than at the yoga class, which was a trivial one.
There will be a moment where my line is deeply crossed.
And by fighting back, I may have to sacrifice more than a minor thing.
I may have to sacrifice some maybe serious physical harm or make a big physical sacrifice.
Now, it may be too late by then.
If the fight gets that close to you, that could mean that the powers that be are really close to clamping down on all men who are capable of resisting.
But when your spirit is called to fight, no matter what the odds are, there's no other option.
And we may not be that far off from when this fight comes to us all.
So that's all I have for this podcast.
If you like it, leave a rating on iTunes, share it with a friend, or drop me an email at ruche at ruchev.com to let me know about your thoughts on the black pill.
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