July 16, 2024 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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| The Stone Zone with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone. | |
| Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents. | |
| He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. | |
| As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society. | |
| Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon. | |
| And now, here's your host, Roger Stone! | |
| Welcome, I'm Roger Stone and you're back in the Stone Zone. | |
| Well, the veepstakes are over and President Donald Trump has chosen Marine Corps veteran U.S. | |
| Senator Yale graduate J.D. | |
| Vance for vice president. | |
| This is a victory for the America First wing of the party. | |
| All of the other finalists in this contest you would have to call neocons, where I think Vance, at 39 years old, the same age that Vice President Richard Nixon joined Dwight Eisenhower, was chosen for the vice presidency, a momentous day. | |
| Today's show, we will talk to a true American hero, Mayor John David Longo, who was there in the crowd when President Donald Trump narrowly escaped assassination. | |
| The mayor shielded his own pregnant wife with his own body. | |
| He, too, is a hero. | |
| And we're also going to talk with Cat Turd. | |
| Everybody loves Cat Turd because he's so pungent and he tells you exactly what he thinks. | |
| All today on The Stone Zone. | |
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| Now to help us bring all of this breaking political news down, my co-host, the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.News, Troy Smith, enters the Stone Zone. There he is. - Roger, it's good to see you today, and a historic decision I want to say, first of all, congratulations to Senator J.D. | |
| Vance. | |
| I think this is a momentous pick, and given the finalist of Senator Marco Rubio, who I respect greatly, and North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum, I think President Trump made a fantastic selection here. | |
| And I think going forward, Roger, if Trump is able to secure a victory here, I think J.D. | |
| Vance's political future is very exciting for a lot of people in the Republican Party. | |
| Yesterday, Roger, the future of the Republican Party was kind of uncertain. | |
| Today, with this choice, we see a little bit clearly where you think the party will eventually be heading, and I think it's a very important day, historic day, and a great choice by President Trump. | |
| In all honesty, Troy, I think the president dodged two bullets this week. | |
| The future of the party is now assured. | |
| Look, I have a high regard for Senator Marco Rubio, who does a tremendous job on constituent services. | |
| I came to deeply suspect Governor Burgum after I looked into his record and saw his closeness to Microsoft magnate Bill Gates. | |
| Also his approval of the Communist Chinese buying a huge acreage very close to Grand Forks Air Force Base, where some of our most powerful offensive technology is stored and evidently deployed. | |
| These things gave me pause. | |
| I do know at the end that media mogul Rupert Murdoch was calling Donald Trump three times a day to urge him to take Burgum. | |
| Burgum had actually been Bill Gates' guest at the Washington at the White House Correspondents Dinner. | |
| And Burgum's wealth comes from selling his software company to Gates. | |
| So I saw him as a deep state ploy. | |
| Senator Tim Scott did not demonstrate to me the presidential campaign that he had the that he had what it takes. | |
| So in the end, the future of the party is assured. | |
| The great thing about J.D. Vance, in addition to his youth, his energy, his military experience serving his country as a U.S. Marine veteran in Iraq, but also the fact that he comes from humble, blue-collar background. | |
| He He, I think, will appeal to blue-collar Catholic voters in the Midwest, working-class voters. | |
| He's a self-made man, an entrepreneur like Trump. | |
| I think this was the best case Pick, given the finalists, and particularly in view of the fact that he is specifically not a neocon. | |
| He opposes, for example, shipping billions more to Ukraine, a position that is different than, say, Senator Marco Rubio or Senator Tim Scott. | |
| We have to guess about Burgum's bona fides on foreign policy, but let's just say the signs are not good. | |
| The other thing I know, Troy, is that Senator Lindsey Graham, who had early on been advocating for his seatmate from South Carolina, Tim Scott, switched and became a hammer, pounding Trump for Marco Rubio, and then when realizing that Rubio would not be chosen, just tried to destroy the candidacy of J.D. | |
| Vance. | |
| Lindsey Graham was unsuccessful in that endeavor. | |
| So I'm very happy with this pick. | |
| It ensures that the president has a number two man who supports the American First Agenda, who is not a neocon, who understands that the vice presidential candidate is a secondary role. | |
| I really think he's picked the best person of the finalists. | |
| I, as many people know, I recommended Tulsi Gabbard. | |
| I think she would have been an intriguing and strong choice. | |
| I'm disappointed that she wasn't chosen, but in light of those who were chosen, I strongly support this ticket. | |
| I think it is the right thing. | |
| I wanted to ask you, if Trump is elected in 2024, this seat in Ohio, which has become more solidly Republican over the last couple election cycles, I'm interested to hear your thoughts on what's going to happen there, because it's my understanding that the vacancy created, if J.D. Vance is because it's my understanding that the vacancy created, if J.D. Vance is successfully elected as vice president in 2024, the duty of appointing somebody to replace him is actually going to fall on, I think most people call him a rhino Republican governor of Ohio, Jeff DeWine, and I'm interested | |
| I think most people call him a rhino Republican governor of Ohio, Are you worried at all that we're going to lose J.D. Vance in the Senate and that they will put a rhino in his place? | |
| Well, I have to look at when the governor's race is in Ohio, having a chance to examine those issues. | |
| I will say this, if there's a vacancy for the U.S. | |
| Senate, then I'm for J.R. | |
| Majewski. | |
| That's where I would go with that appointment. | |
| He's always been America first from the very beginning. | |
| Ultimately, perhaps he'll run for that seat. | |
| But look, politics, as you know, a day is a lifetime. | |
| And speaking of a lifetime, let me bring in our guest. | |
| I read a great story at the Gateway Pundit by Jacob Engels. | |
| About Mayor John David Longo, who was present on Saturday when there was this horrific assault on President Donald Trump's life. | |
| And there's still a lot of lingering questions about what happened and what the failures were of the Secret Service, the failures of local law enforcement. | |
| A lot of vexing questions about what happened Saturday, but here is one of the heroes of that day. | |
| Mayor John David Longo joins us now. | |
| Thank you very much for having me on, Mr. Stone. | |
| Mayor, you are yourself a Marine Corps veteran. | |
| You are also a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania with a master's degree from Slippery Rock, and you're elected as mayor of the city that was the host, or I should say the subdivision outside of Pittsburgh that was the host for Saturday. | |
| It had to be a chilling and sorrowful event. | |
| First of all, our prayers go out to Corey Comparatore—I think I said that correctly—the firefighter who was tragically shot in the head and killed. | |
| All prayers, as President Trump said in his statement to him and his family. | |
| This is horrific. | |
| But again, he died shielding others. | |
| Tell us about your experience, Mayor. | |
| Thank you, Roger. | |
| I'm glad to do that. | |
| And you have to forgive me, I tried to find a quiet spot, but Senator J.D. | |
| Vance was just nominated right behind me on the floor of the RNC to be our vice presidential nominee. | |
| So lots of excitement going on right now. | |
| It's certainly a lot more joyous here than it was on Saturday. | |
| But where to start? | |
| You know, I was getting on the ground at 11.30 That day with my family, my wife, my in-laws, my sister, my mother, we were all reminiscing on President Trump's Halloween night visit to Butler County in 2020 and expecting to enjoy a day where, again, we're going to have that electricity in the air, that hope, that inspiration. | |
| Unfortunately, that was stolen from us by a maniac who decided to do violence against President Trump and his rally goers. | |
| So first, I just want to say before I say anything, I appreciate the kind words, but I'm no hero, sir. | |
| I saw a ton of people do a lot of good, but I really just want to make sure that we focus particularly on a hometown hero, Fire Chief Cory Compador, who lost his life that day. | |
| I understand that he lived as a hero, as a firefighter, and he died as a hero that day, so my thoughts and prayers go to him. | |
| It's a mixture of feelings, Roger. | |
| You have relief that your family and friends around you are safe, while also trying to reconcile with the fact that there's somebody that didn't get to go home that night. | |
| And a couple of folks who were very badly injured. | |
| You know, so I just want to say, you know, I'm glad that it wasn't a whole lot worse. | |
| And of course, we're relieved that President Trump was able to rise and triumph at defiance from that moment and lead from the front. | |
| I think it is absolutely obvious at this point that Donald Trump has the protective armor of Jesus Christ our Lord. | |
| It is absolutely clear that his life has now been spared twice, as I said, On my 77 WABC radio show this weekend, in the 80s, Trump was scheduled to fly from New York City to Atlantic City by helicopter with a group of his casino executives. | |
| That was scheduled. | |
| He delayed that flight, sent it on ahead. | |
| The idea was for the chopper to return to New York and pick him up after he changed his schedule to meet with me. | |
| I rushed up from Washington to meet with him. | |
| I was in the meeting with him when we learned that that helicopter had crashed and everyone on a board had tragically been killed. | |
| I knew at that moment that Donald Trump's life was saved for some greater purpose. | |
| This is why I began trying to get him to run for president as early as 1988, again in 2000, again in 2012, and ultimately, of course, the Times met the man in 2016. | |
| Mayor, I don't know what the role of your office is, but as you, and I realize that you're at the convention Focusing on renominating the greatest president since Abraham Lincoln and his great running mate, working class hero, J.D. | |
| Vance. | |
| But have you had a chance to look at the role of local law enforcement, state law enforcement, the Secret Service and everybody that day? | |
| Yeah, so let me start by saying this. | |
| I'm the mayor of Slippery Rock, Pennsylvania, which is about 30 minutes away from the Butler Farm Show grounds where the rally took place. | |
| Neither I nor my police department were involved in the planning of the security for that day. | |
| Although our police department was called in after the shooting began to come in to help, lots of local police departments from the area were called in to help at that time. | |
| I don't have anything to comment on as far as police presence or security administration is concerned. | |
| Because, Mr. Stone, the fact of the matter is, I was there as a guest of the campaign. | |
| I got the honor of participating in the free program, leading the rally and the Pledge of Allegiance. | |
| And then right after that, I was escorted backstage with my wife to meet President Trump. | |
| So I was having a conversation with President Trump about About 15 minutes before he took the stage and the shooting began. | |
| So I didn't get to spend a whole lot of time observing much in the venue. | |
| But what I can say is this, the law enforcement professionals and Secret Service members who were on the ground inside the venue that day conducted themselves professionally. | |
| They were clear and concise in their orders. | |
| Folks respected them for that. | |
| And whenever the shooting began, I did witness law enforcement officials and the Secret Service address that threat and neutralize it. | |
| I think that's fair enough. | |
| That's all I can speak to as far as the law enforcement aspect of this particular situation is concerned, sir. | |
| I think that's fair enough. | |
| Look, we're in that aftermath where there's a huge amount of information flooding in, not all of it accurate, not all of it vetted, not all of it verified. | |
| It's chaos right now. | |
| So I think it is premature to blame anyone. | |
| There appear to me, on the surface, to be some failures by the Secret Service, but let's get more information before we make those judgments. | |
| There even seem to be questions to me, in my view, as to whether we've identified the correct killer. | |
| There's plenty of time for that. | |
| Today, among other things, we celebrate the fact that despite the tragic loss of life and those who were injured, and by the way, President Donald Trump has set up a GoFundMe site specifically to benefit those families. | |
| He's authorized it to be set up in his name, which shows you what a big-hearted guy he really is. | |
| I think we focus on the fact that Trump's rise to the White House now appears to be inexorable. | |
| The other incredible development is that Judge Eileen Cannon has thrown out the so-called documents case and ruled that on the basis of the presentations to her that the appointment of a special counsel, Jack Smith, is unconstitutional and therefore illegal. | |
| Andrew Weissman, the MSNBC talking head, legal analyst, the guy who wrote my phony indictment, he claims this is an opportunity for the 11th Circuit to remove a canon. | |
| That's wishful thinking. | |
| While the 11th Circuit may not, which is extraordinarily liberal, may not affirm canon, the U.S. | |
| Supreme Court will. | |
| The problem here is that the case is a solid one. | |
| These same arguments were raised in my trial, where it was wrongly decided by a trial court judge and by the most liberal court of appeals. | |
| So, this sequence of events, the idea that he's being charged in Georgia and is making a mugshot public, would bring $141 million in small and medium-sized contributions to his campaign. | |
| $41 million in small and medium-sized contributions to his campaign, a miracle. | |
| The fact that the U.S. | |
| Supreme Court would rule that, no, you can't bar him from all 50 ballots, another miracle. | |
| A just and fair Supreme Court immunity decision, a miracle. | |
| The transparency of the fraudulence of the charges against him in New York, so that his conviction actually backfires, brings in another $60 million, and even that sentencing is delayed. | |
| All of these things, to me, could not have been seen a year ago. | |
| These are all miracles, and we have one God to thank for them. | |
| Mayor, let me ask you this. | |
| How is your wife? | |
| She's a champion, Roger. | |
| I gotta tell you, if it weren't for me trying to physically restrain her and keep her down, Close to the ground. | |
| She would have been up and helping. | |
| It's just in her nature. | |
| She's the most selfless person that I've ever met and she did help. | |
| You know, she was helpful to those around her after the shooting had finished off. | |
| She was very helpful in making sure that she was comforting our family members, in particular her mother and my sister. | |
| And I'm just grateful to have such a strong woman to stand by my side in that moment. | |
| All right. | |
| All right. | |
| I'm very happy that you could join us today. | |
| I'm headed to Milwaukee myself. | |
| Let's try to get a cup of coffee or a beer while I'm there. | |
| I really look forward to meeting you. | |
| And thank you for joining us today, Mayor, right here in the Stone Zone. | |
| Thank you for having me, Roger. | |
| We'll see you here on Tuesday, sir. | |
| Thanks. | |
| Excellent. | |
| Thank you very much. | |
| Folks, assassination is in the air. | |
| As people are talking about it, we have a long, unfortunate history of assassination affecting our politics. | |
| The assassination of Abraham Lincoln really gave the Democrats' rise to resist Reconstruction, the rise of the Ku Klux Klan, and other efforts in the South to thwart civil rights. | |
| The assassination of President James Garfield gave rise to Chester A. Arthur, who was a stalwart and thought to be a corrupt keeper of the port in New York, but arose to be a reformed progressive Republican who took on big business. | |
| Of course, legendarily, the murder of John F. Kennedy, which empowered Lyndon Johnson and the deep state. | |
| If these things are fascinating to you, then let me recommend my book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ. | |
| The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ. | |
| In this book, I use eyewitness testimony, fingerprint evidence, as well as eyewitness testimony, and of course, deep Texas politics, to make the case that Lyndon Baines Johnson was the head of a plot that involved the Central Intelligence Agency, You can get your very own signed copy of this pop boiler by going to TheManWhoKilledKennedy.com. | |
| international interests to murder President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963. | |
| You can get your very own signed copy of this potboiler by going to themanwhokilledkennedy.com. | |
| The parallels between now and 1963 and 1968 are extraordinary. | |
| If you're interested in history and politics and you want to know more about who really killed President John F. Kennedy and why, let me recommend the book to you. | |
| All right, Troy, we're away. | |
| Of course, the great cat turd, one of the most Popular, I hate this word, influencers, but a guy I love because he tells you exactly what he really thinks and he pulls no punches. | |
| But bring us up to date on the political news. | |
| Obviously, the big news today, the selection of Senator J.D. | |
| Vance for vice president. | |
| This is a smashing victory for the America First wing of the party, for the non-neocon wing of the party. | |
| Well, Roger, I think you're exactly right, and I don't want to, you know, overshadow that news. | |
| I think that news is extremely important, but there was actually news earlier today that I thought, you know, I really want to get Roger's opinion on this during the show today, and that was Eileen Cannon throwing out the documents case. | |
| Now, of course, you know, the J.D. | |
| selection kind of overshadows this, but the Eileen Cannon, the case she's overseeing, the documents case in which President Trump's Mar-a-Lago was raided with a kill. | |
| They were okay to kill. | |
| They were okay to shoot their way in. | |
| The FBI raids Mar-a-Lago in this false documents case, and now it's been thrown out. | |
| And the reason it's been thrown out, Roger, is the most important thing here, and that is that Judge Cannon found that Jack Smith was illegally appointed. | |
| So the DOJ does not have the power to have these special counsels that are completely rogue, not confirmed by the Senate. | |
| And I think that this strikes a death blow to really the obstructionist policies that we saw affect Trump's first presidency, where they were able to launch the Mueller investigation. | |
| And even you, Roger, you were the subject of the Mueller investigation. | |
| And even though they had no evidence, they raided your home. | |
| And it seems to me that this ruling by canon completely destroys the lawfare tactics we've seen from the Democrats since 2016. | |
| Really interested to get your thoughts on what unfolded in this documents case today. | |
| Let me say a couple things. | |
| First of all, yes, in an illegal and surreptitiously recorded video some weeks ago, I did predict that the judge would dismiss this case. | |
| That's because I understand this argument. | |
| Also because I've read every pleading and every document filed in the case. | |
| No, I don't know Judge Cannon. | |
| no, I've never had any communications with her, no, I've never met her. | |
| I see this insanity online. | |
| I reached my conclusion because I can read. | |
| I'm also very familiar with the argument. | |
| In my case, Andrew Miller, who had once worked for me, did not want to testify. | |
| His attorneys raised this very issue. | |
| They filed it in court. | |
| It was denied by the trial judge. | |
| It was denied by the Court of Appeals. | |
| It never got to the Supreme Court. | |
| But he made the same argument that Jack Smith's appointment is illegal because it's not provided for anywhere in law and because he's not. | |
| He has never been confirmed by the United States Senate. | |
| There's also no budgeting for his inquiry. | |
| So someone who's not a sitting U.S. | |
| attorney and therefore has not been confirmed by the U.S. | |
| Senate given these sweeping prosecutorial powers is unconstitutional. | |
| I thought it was wrongly decided in D.C. | |
| I thought it was wisely filed in Florida. | |
| Former Attorney General Ed Meese, along with two very respected law school professors, including Professor Stephen Calabrese, who is not a Trump supporter, filed a very impressive amicus brief with the U.S. | |
| Supreme Court, also filed with the court in Florida. | |
| I would note That the president's lawyers never raised this issue, never preserved this issue in D.C., which means the D.C. | |
| judge, Judge Hutkin, could still proceed on the matters there. | |
| We have to watch that in view of the immunity ruling. | |
| I'm not an attorney, so I don't know where that stands, but lawyers, I do respect, think it is highly unlikely that any trial could yet be brought. | |
| Obviously, the ruling by Judge Kannon will be appealed. | |
| It'll go to the appeals court, then it'll go eventually to the Supreme Court, where I think it will be affirmed. | |
| Either way, you could never have seen this coming in advance, and it is another milestone in Trump's advancement to the White House. | |
| I think you're exactly right, Roger, and I'm interested to see exactly how this is going to unfold as well because we were watching the reports very closely here. | |
| I feel like I have gotten like one hour of sleep since Trump's incident at the rally on Saturday, Roger. | |
| You probably have something similar going on as well. | |
| But, you know, as this unfolds here, it's becoming more clear that not only is Trump going to be the most popular person going into the 2024 election, not only is he going to, I think, break the electoral norms that we've seen in the Electoral College over the last several years, which he's done time and time again. | |
| I think the mechanisms by which they slowed him down in his first administration are really being revealed for what they are, which are kind of baseless, unconstitutional attacks. | |
| And I'm interested to say, what do you think that this will do going forward if Trump's able to win this election in his policy prescriptions and how he operates as a president? | |
| I would have to think that not having the looming threat of somebody like Robert Mueller or Jack Smith being thrown into his face over Trump, basically stuff that was created by Hillary Clinton, that's gotta take a huge weight off the presidency and allow him to do things like he did in lowering energy costs, building the best economy ever. | |
| I mean, that surely has to help him in this process, no? - I think that will definitely be true. | |
| Again, I still think there's going to be future litigation on this issue. | |
| One thing is absolutely clear, just in terms of the news cycle, the attempted assassination on Donald Trump completely wiped out the initiative by the Democrats to try to demonize Donald Trump as supporting Agenda 2025. | |
| Something that was produced by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative group, but which is not in any way authorized or a reflection of Donald Trump's views or proposals. | |
| President Trump wisely points to the Republican National Platform that was adopted by the Platform Committee and will be adopted by the full Republican National Convention. | |
| If you want to see Donald Trump's position, for example, on Social Security, well then go to the Republican National Platform. | |
| Now, it's true that a lot of Trump supporters, even some people who have worked for him, worked on this Heritage Foundation think tank document, but that does not mean that it has Donald Trump's imprimatur. | |
| That is not totally an accurate reflection of Trump's views. | |
| There are some things there that do reflect Trump's views, but on a number of issues, it is not what he is running on. | |
| Look, the Democrats have nothing to run on. | |
| That's obvious. | |
| They cannot tout a robust economy. | |
| The best they try to dress up these numbers. | |
| We've had the housing and mortgage expert and economist Barry Habib on the show, both on this show and on my 77 WABC radio show. | |
| The employment numbers, the inflation numbers, the job creation numbers, all these numbers are jiggered, but the American people do not feel economically safe. | |
| The world is not a safer place with Joe Biden trying to incite war in two theaters. | |
| We've shipped billions to Ukraine, but we don't even have ongoing peace talks or any negotiations whatsoever that could stop the killing. | |
| So they intend to run on Trump is a convicted felon. | |
| Biden called him a rapist at a rally the other night. | |
| He's not been convicted of rape. | |
| That's a lie. | |
| January 6th, they hope to recycle that canard. | |
| Trump will end, make all abortions in America illegal, and he wants to cut your Social Security. | |
| It is a pack of lies. | |
| All right, I just got the word that Cat Turd is in the house. | |
| Welcome to the Stone Zone. | |
| Hey, hey, hey! | |
| God bless you, my brother. | |
| These are great days, no? | |
| What a weekend, huh? | |
| I haven't slept at all. | |
| I've literally gotten maybe two hours in the last two days. | |
| Yeah, it's just we're now in this what I call information overload. | |
| I mean, there's so much incoming both on social media and also in all mediums that it's hard to digest all of it. | |
| But one thing is absolutely clear, and that is there is a Trump juggernaut headed for the White House. | |
| Donald Trump has had a series of victories and developments. | |
| that could never have been foreseen, despite the fact that there are still obstacles that remain, including the implacable opposition of the ruling elite and the deep state, I, for the first time, can honestly say I'm including the implacable opposition of the ruling elite and the deep state, I, for the Yeah. | |
| I mean, it was like divine intervention this weekend. | |
| I mean, I said on my podcast today, it's a miracle that Trump's here today. | |
| I mean, I'm talking about milliseconds and millimeters. | |
| And, uh, I don't even know what else to say about that. | |
| I mean, um, I w I was watching it live and I thought, I thought they killed him, man. | |
| Cause I, I, I mean, I was watching it and I just kind of saw the blood and saw him grab his, what I thought was his neck and then, uh, fall down. | |
| And I was just like, oh my God, they just shot him. | |
| I had the same reaction. | |
| Folks who weren't old enough to remember this, but in 1963, First, we heard media reports that President John F. Kennedy had been shot, and then it was some time before it was confirmed that he had been killed. | |
| So, my heart was in my throat. | |
| I felt the same way I felt when they tried to assassinate President Ronald Reagan. | |
| We first heard that he's been shot, then we heard that he survived. | |
| I heard about Kennedy, as I say. | |
| It was a harrowing moment. | |
| And it absolutely convinces me that Trump has the hedge of protection of God Almighty. | |
| He turns his head at precisely the right time. | |
| It is a miracle. | |
| My heart breaks for the family of Corey Comparatore, I think I said it right, the firefighter who was shot in the head and tragically killed just for being at a Trump rally, as well as those who were wounded. | |
| I can't imagine anything more horrible. | |
| I can't imagine. | |
| And he, and he, and he protects his wife and daughter. | |
| And, uh, and, and another thing that upset me that his, you know, the, the day before he went, his last tweet was replying to me and that was upsetting to me. | |
| Yeah, and I wanted to ask you about that specifically because, you know, I found that profound doing the report when he was identified, this heroic gentleman. | |
| And I just wanted to ask, what went through your head when you learned that this gentleman's last public statement was actually a reply to one of your Twitter posts? | |
| I mean, that's pretty amazing. | |
| Yeah, and it was. | |
| I just did a kind of, what's everybody getting into this weekend? | |
| And he was, like, excited, saying, going to the rally. | |
| And that was that day. | |
| And then it's just, it's just eerie. | |
| It made me feel terrible. | |
| And man, my heart goes out to him. | |
| I'm glad that President Trump put a GoFundMe for him. | |
| And it seemed like he was just a hell of a guy. | |
| So based on all this incoming you see online, and you have to take some of it with a grain of salt, but there's so many anomalies here that just don't make sense to me. | |
| As in the Kennedy assassination, under the Secret Service manual, tall buildings anywhere in the vicinity of a presidential appearance are supposed to be searched and sealed. | |
| This seems to be the only high building within several hundred yards, yet the government has free access to it. | |
| If reports I've read are correct that a police officer climbed to the roof, saw the shooter who waved a gun at him, but did not then report that incident, or that the Secret Service was aware of his of his being there, aware of his presence, but delayed shooting him. | |
| You don't know exactly what to believe. | |
| I'm not trying to rush to judgment, but it seems to me like you've got some huge lapses here. | |
| What do you make of it so far? - Yeah, well, so I just have common sense, right? | |
| So I'm just an old country boy, and I just have common sense, and that's what I use in every situation. | |
| So I look at things, and I'm like, okay, so this 20-year-old dork who lives at home, he's never been on social media. | |
| They've checked his phone today, you know, quote-unquote, and said that there was no motive. | |
| And then this guy, somehow, Goes there that day and outsmarts the Pennsylvania State Police, the local police force, the local SWAT team and the secret service and takes a ladder. | |
| And I mean, how did he get the ladder there? | |
| You know, and I'm a construction guy, you know, that's like a 24 foot extension ladder, a 16 foot extension ladder. | |
| I mean, things are heavy and it, and he gets a ladder there and gets a gun in there. | |
| And then crawls on the roof and you got for three minutes, people going, he's got a gun. | |
| He's got a gun in the audience. | |
| You can hear him gun. | |
| It was right there. | |
| Look, man, the guy's got a gun. | |
| And there's no, even though the most incompetent people that ever in any event in history, every one of them are, are there's, there's some inside stuff going on. | |
| And I, and I, and I'm 100% believe the latter. | |
| It has to be, there's no way possible. | |
| This happens. | |
| I posted about this. | |
| The Secret Service has said that the shooter is a man named Thomas Matthew Crook. | |
| Others, I've been contacted by others, some in law enforcement, who insist that that is incorrect, that the actual killer is a man named Maxwell Yerrick, who has a criminal history of fighting with Trump supporters, a known supporter of Antifa. | |
| I've tried to look at the photos and make an image comparison, but it seems to me that there's a rush to judgment to blame a guy. | |
| And, of course, they're all touting the fact that he's a quote-unquote registered Republican. | |
| Evidently, there's not much available on him. | |
| Checking those voter registration records because I had a report that he only became a Republican recently and did so to vote for Nikki Haley in the Pennsylvania primary. | |
| If that is accurate, then this really does begin to smell very bad. | |
| If you're just tuning in, folks, we're with Cat Turd, one of my good friends over there on X. As he puts it, just a country boy with common sense, but who always tells you what he really thinks. | |
| Cat Turd, how do you feel about the selection of Senator J.D. | |
| Vance of Ohio as Donald Trump's running mate? | |
| Yeah. | |
| So I, you know, I was going to support Trump no matter who he picked and I could have picked a pet rock and I was going to support him. | |
| But, uh, uh, yeah. | |
| So to me it was, uh, we got to keep him safe. | |
| So it's, it's who he didn't pick more important. | |
| You know, I was like, you can't pick Rubio. | |
| You can't pick, of course, Nikki Haley or anybody like that. | |
| So he was like third on my list. | |
| I wanted to Ben Carson, but I'm totally fine with the pick. | |
| Uh, yeah, I, I mean, okay. | |
| I'm in agreement. | |
| I think everybody knows that my choice was. | |
| Tulsi Gabbard, I like to think outside the box. | |
| I liked her too. | |
| Her military record, her status as a former Democrat, I think was an asset in a race in which we have to win some Democrat votes and more independent votes. | |
| I think she's an amazing woman with an amazing record. | |
| She's had a political evolution in her own life. | |
| People change over time when they get more information. | |
| If you don't change your views when you're presented new information, then there's something fundamentally wrong. | |
| Ronald Reagan was not just a Democrat, he was a liberal New Deal Democrat who saw the light. | |
| I think that the great danger, as you just pointed out, Cat Turd, was those he did not choose. | |
| Those who are not America First Republicans. | |
| They may be supporting Trump today, they may be voicing their support for him today, but that has not always been the case. | |
| Now, it's true that Vance has said some things in the distance past that were critical of Trump. | |
| Not everybody who's for Trump today was for him in the beginning. | |
| Some people had to see how successful he was. | |
| You may not remember this, but he was going to cause the stock market to crash and drive us into World War III. | |
| Oh yeah. | |
| Armageddon. | |
| That's what Nancy Pelosi said. | |
| Armageddon. | |
| Uh, yeah. | |
| And so, um, just like with, uh, Tulsi Gabbard and, um, uh, with him, I mean, they were both against Trump eight years ago and as these people change and as they get more information, like they say, and, uh, and, and you gotta remember these, these are two young people too. | |
| And we, you know, God, what was I thinking when I was 30 years old? | |
| And, uh, so, so, you know, as they change and as they come around our side, we have to accept them in there. | |
| Some people they'll just push. | |
| Nope. | |
| If you ever said anything bad about Trump, you're not. | |
| And I agree. | |
| We can't do that. | |
| We need everybody we can get. | |
| And like Tulsi Gabbard, I'll, I'll listen to her, to her podcasts. | |
| Sometimes she's, she's totally well-spoken and, and unbelievable. | |
| I mean, hopefully maybe he'll pick her in a staff somewhere. | |
| Look, I hope that she gets a high level of federal opinion, federal appointment. | |
| She could be Secretary of State. | |
| She could be Secretary of Defense. | |
| She could serve in a number of roles. | |
| She's an extraordinary woman. | |
| Disappointed that she was not invited to speak to the Republican National Convention, but of course, she's technically an independent. | |
| She has not yet endorsed President Trump, although she's urged people to vote for him. | |
| I suspect that that endorsement will come. | |
| down the road. | |
| What do you say, Katur, to those who say, well, this is all great, but what if they just steal it again? | |
| In other words, they don't have the votes, They know they don't have the votes. | |
| They have a crippled, sadly, half-dead candidate. | |
| We wish him well, but he does not look well to me. | |
| He looks sickly. | |
| They're propping him up. | |
| I think it's elder abuse, to be honest. | |
| And again, I think the backstage effort by Barack Obama And the establishment of the deep state to force Biden out could not be more obvious. | |
| When Obama posted after the debate on X, formerly known as Twitter, supporting Biden, I said, well, there you go. | |
| The backdoor effort to drive him out has begun. | |
| And indeed, it has. | |
| Do you think that Biden will yet survive as a candidate? | |
| It's so funny, like they created this, you know, they stowed the election and then they created this Frankenstein, right? | |
| And now the monster won't go away. | |
| It's kind of funny to me because he just, he will not go, you know, he's just like, I'm not going no matter what. | |
| And he's got Jill and Hunter up there and they're just, they're, I mean, they're just not going to release power. | |
| So they can do a lot of things, take up, you know, take away his funding and everything. | |
| But I mean, every single day that they don't do this and every it's another day to day, uh, it's harder and harder to do. | |
| And, you know, they'll have to do it by the convention, but I mean, if they could put, if they put, uh, um, it's hard for them not to put, um, uh, Camilla in there and she's just as bad as him. | |
| She's dumber than him. | |
| Uh, you, you raise a very good point. | |
| I mean, look this weekend. | |
| Both on my 77 WABC radio show and in a special edition of the Stone Zone, we obviously talked about the failed assassination attempt against Donald Trump. | |
| My original plan was to talk about the civil war that's going on in the Democrat Party. | |
| My sources tell me several things. | |
| First of all, Joe is sleeping about 16 hours a day. | |
| Hunter is now the designated gatekeeper and the chief political advisor. | |
| He, with Jill, decides who Joe gets to talk to, who he gets to see, who he can take phone calls from, that he's increasingly isolated, that former Speaker Pelosi speaks to him, Congressman Jim Clyburn of South Carolina. | |
| Who saved Biden's candidacy in the South Carolina primary speaks to him. | |
| Very few others can get through to him. | |
| I also am told reliably that the reason that Attorney General Merrick Garland is so adamantly opposing release of the audio of the special counsel Robert Herr interview with Joe Biden over what | |
| What Hurst said in his report was the willful retention illegally of classified and top secret documents is because the audio does not match the transcript that we have been given. | |
| If that turns out to be accurate, if we ever get the audio, that would mean that this was a willful criminal act and there would have to be prosecutions. | |
| You'll remember that Nixon tried to shield his tapes. | |
| He said the White House tapes were protected by executive privilege. | |
| Same argument that Merrick Garland is using today to hold back the release of this audio tape. | |
| They have put out a transcript. | |
| Nixon put out transcripts of his Watergate tapes. | |
| The courts, the Congress, and the people said that wasn't acceptable. | |
| Cat Turd, what do you think's going on here? | |
| Oh, you know, you have anything Garland says or this DOJ, the FBI assume it's a lie because that's because it always is. | |
| So what you're saying is probably true. | |
| Um, this Garland man, thank God he didn't get on the Supreme Court, huh? | |
| Man, this guy has just been, uh, he's, I mean, he can't even answer any questions. | |
| You see, I mean, the guy's dumb. | |
| I mean, I hate to say it, you know, he, he's got some smarts doing stuff behind the scenes, but man, when they interview him or, or when they're like, uh, some kind of a hearing, man, I do this guy's, I just think this guy's dumb. | |
| But, but I don't trust him. | |
| I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. | |
| He, he, he, he, he's a, he's a traitor. | |
| He, he's, he's turned the, uh, the, uh, justice system into, uh, uh, just lawfare against Republicans. | |
| So everything he's done, uh, from the, the, the, I mean, just Raiden Mar-a-Lago right there, which is all worthless today. | |
| Cause it all got thrown out. | |
| Troy, your thoughts on the controversy regarding Merrick Garland? | |
| I watched that clip over and over again. | |
| He basically talks about the rule of law. | |
| He talks with respect for subpoenas, except for when they're not legitimate. | |
| But on what basis does he say the House subpoena is illegitimate? | |
| Because it's politically embarrassing to them? | |
| It's still legal and completely legitimate. | |
| I don't understand where he gets the authority to decide whether a subpoena from the House is legitimate or not. | |
| When I was subpoenaed in the January 6th matter, You didn't get it? | |
| I fulfilled my legal obligation. | |
| I appeared where I was supposed to appear, and I elected to invoke my Fifth Amendment rights. | |
| Not because I had anything to hide, not because I'd done anything wrong, not because I knew anything whatsoever about illegal events at the Capitol, but because I'd had first-hand experience with the way they twist your actual words into some kind of a process crime. | |
| But in Ireland it's held to a different standard. | |
| It's amazing. | |
| Yeah, and what you just said is what I've always recommended anybody that they subpoena, especially these skunks they got up there now, is to show up and just plead the fifth. | |
| I tell everybody, if they call you in, just do that. | |
| Because you see what they've done to Bannon and Navarro. | |
| And the thing about it is, he's done the same thing and he's getting off. | |
| I mean, the side-by-side, if Bannon's going to prison, he's getting held in contempt and he's refusing to get prosecuted. | |
| I mean, if that side-by-side don't show you the two-tiered justice system up front and up close, I don't know what else will. | |
| Well, look, it's no secret that Steve Bannon and I have had our problems, but there's a legitimate issue of executive privilege in his case. | |
| Trump sent him a letter invoking executive privilege on advice of counsel. | |
| Based on that letter, he was advised not to testify because such testimony would be a violation of the law. | |
| He followed the directions of his counsel, and he was charged. | |
| I think that is unfair. | |
| I think he's been unfairly convicted and unfairly incarcerated. | |
| Peter Navarro's case is somewhat different. | |
| The president did not evoke executive privilege. | |
| In all honesty, Navarro should have done the same thing General Flynn and I did, which is fulfill your legal responsibility, but invoke your Fifth Amendment rights for what is, in fact, a witch hunt, a total witch hunt. | |
| But the two-tier justice system examples go on and on and on. | |
| Hillary Clinton lied repeatedly to Congress about material matters. | |
| James Comey, I believe, lied 293 times to Congress about material matters. | |
| Former CIA Director John Brennan lied to Congress about spying on Congress. | |
| James Clapper told us, no, there's no metadata collection program operated by the U.S. | |
| government. | |
| And of course, the Snowden revelations prove that that was a lie. | |
| All of these people, and many others, Andrew McCabe, others, have lied to Congress about material matters. | |
| Any misstatement I made to Congress was immaterial, meaning it didn't hide or was related to some underlying crime. | |
| Sorry, folks. | |
| There is no Russian collusion. | |
| There was no WikiLeaks collaboration. | |
| The government produced no evidence to the contrary. | |
| It's a mainstream media meme. | |
| It's a recycled lie, but anyone who examines the facts knows it's true. | |
| I'm sure you saw this cat turd the other day, Fox Reports. | |
| The Russians are going to interfere in the 2024. | |
| Oh yeah. | |
| I know you just can't laugh at it enough, right? | |
| Here they come again with the Russia. | |
| For the life of me, I don't understand how anybody can even listen to this Democrat propaganda media anymore. | |
| I don't get it. | |
| We have all this information online. | |
| We've got all these great podcasts like yours. | |
| I've got a podcast. | |
| We've got all these regular people that are honest people that report honestly what they're thinking and honestly what's happening. | |
| And you got especially X's revive and Elon Musk is on board and you got all this information and they still turn it over to on CNN and listen to that complete propaganda garbage. | |
| And I love it when CNN, what cracks me up is when they talk about Russia and they're saying Russia does nothing but propaganda and they're 99.9% propaganda. | |
| Well, first of all I'm surprised that The Vladimir Putin is still with him because I read so many stories that he was dying of prostate cancer. | |
| He was supposed to be dying two years ago of prostate cancer. | |
| I see these stories and I just, you have to wonder. | |
| I mean, they just look like propaganda to me. | |
| Troy, what do you think? | |
| Well, you know, I think I can turn that into a question here, and my question would be to Catherine. | |
| I was looking at your account before this, and I realized that you had joined Twitter in 2018, which I found interesting because I've watched you all along, and I didn't realize it had been that long. | |
| So you've kind of seen the changeover in the, the old Twitter and the new Twitter. | |
| And I'm interested to hear your thoughts on what, you know, what, what it's looking like now. | |
| Do you think that we've seen reports from people like Laura Loomer and others who have said that there, and Roger even has seen a decrease in some of their numbers and things like that. | |
| Do you think that there are, you know, behind the scenes chains being tightening tightened here on the censorship heading into 2024? | |
| Well, definitely. | |
| But it's all, you know, back then they would just throttle you or suspend you or like, you know, I survived somehow, but they removed 175,000 followers in a week. | |
| And then they got where I couldn't make followers. | |
| And they really did. | |
| They had every ban on me possible for a couple of years. | |
| They left me on Twitter, but I didn't have any reach for about two years. | |
| But now it's all out. | |
| I don't think they're like going, I'm going to specifically throttle you. | |
| I'm going to specifically throttle you. | |
| They're not doing that. | |
| They're using algorithms and you, and you have to learn to beat their algorithms. | |
| And that's why I've got three computers around me. | |
| I've been studying these algorithms and there's certain words and phrases you use. | |
| And yes, they do lean towards us as usual, but that's, that's why people are getting more throttled now. | |
| Um, it's these algorithms and you just got to learn how to, to, to, to beat them. | |
| I know Liv's a TikTok. | |
| She's, she's good at, uh, she's kind of studied it like I have, and she's good at beating them. | |
| And you'll see her use certain words and just leave out a letter here and there. | |
| When you see that, that's what she's doing. | |
| She's beating the algorithm. | |
| Very interesting. | |
| Alex Jones seems to have mastered this as well. | |
| Uh, I've noticed that he gets enormous traction on X almost every day. | |
| And when they do the ad shares, you can always tell what their, their, their, uh, there's certain words that you can use and they change every day. | |
| Um, and if you, if you'll study your ad shares and see if there's ads on your, on your page, like I know yesterday, uh, this weekend, if you said secret service, FBI, uh, stuff like that, I had five words written down that you couldn't all of a sudden use, you wouldn't get an ad. | |
| So it's just, I mean, if you want to, if you want your reach to be more, unfortunately, I hate the algorithms. | |
| I wish it was just a free for all, but you kind of have to study them and figure them out. | |
| And as they, uh, they evolve every week and then you can beat it if you can. | |
| I mean, I'm getting four or 5 million views on a lot of stuff this week. | |
| And it's not because. | |
| Well, of course, the other alternative is to be boring. | |
| It's because I figured out their algorithms this week, and I know like – and you can still say what you want. | |
| You're not – I'm not censoring myself at all. | |
| It's just little words that you can just use a different word but still say the same thing. | |
| Well, of course, the other alternative is to be boring. | |
| See, if you're boring, you have no problems with the algorithms. | |
| But also nobody would follow you, and nobody would repost you, and nobody would read you. | |
| As Richard Dixon once said to me, the only thing in politics worse than being wrong is being boring. | |
| I agree with what that says. | |
| It's not a uniform situation. | |
| I will see peaks and valleys. | |
| Sometimes something I say will get an enormous amount of traction. | |
| The next day I'll say something that I think is pithy and brilliant and virtually nobody will read it. | |
| I was very interested to see a guy named Indie Worker critiquing my, he called them suspenders. | |
| First of all, they're braces. | |
| He didn't like where the buckle was on my brace. | |
| He didn't understand that's based on the length of the braces. | |
| Now, these braces used to be made with catgut. | |
| Today, they're made with leather that buttons to your pants. | |
| The ones made of catgut are hard to find, but they're generally speaking longer, which means when you adjust them, the buckle is higher. | |
| What I don't need is some 30-year-old punk telling me about my wardrobe when I dressed up to please myself and nobody else. | |
| But you can find all kinds of things on X. I love the people who said, Roger Stone was seen on Epstein's Island. | |
| We know it was him because we saw his Nixon tattoo and he was wearing a bull mask. | |
| You know what this is? | |
| This is bullshit! | |
| That's what it is. | |
| I'm the first major American author to completely and fully expose Jeffrey Epstein. | |
| Go to my book, The Clinton's War on Women, and the longest chapter in the book is a full exposure of Epstein, the island, his little black book. | |
| I cite all the names found on the FAA manifest for the Lolita Express. | |
| airplane. | |
| I go deeply into the case of Virginia Jaffray, the local, her local attorney who operated with me in writing the book. | |
| So this is, this is absurd. | |
| There's a new phenomenon I want to warn people about. | |
| There were recently a bunch of documents released because the Palm Beach Post sued to unseal a bunch of documents pertaining to Epstein's prosecution. | |
| So there was a whole bunch of documents released recently. | |
| No, there's no new shocking evidence tying Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein in there. | |
| There's a couple telephone buck slips. | |
| What we know about Trump is Epstein is on the record. | |
| Trump cut Epstein off and barred him from Mar-a-Lago prior to Epstein being arrested and convicted of a sex crime in Florida. | |
| Yes, he did. | |
| The Clintons partied with him, took money from him, traveled with him, visited him after he had been convicted of a sex crime in Florida. | |
| There's no evidence of Epstein giving Donald Trump a penny, yet he was the funder for the Clinton Global Initiative and the Clinton Foundation. | |
| And yes, there were two occasions in which Donald Trump was on Epstein's plane. | |
| They flew from New York to Palm Beach and back, and Donald Trump's then-wife, Marla Maples, and their daughter, Tiffany, were also on the plane. | |
| This is all public knowledge, but there's a campaign on X to try to pretend that Trump and Epstein had some connection beyond that which is known. | |
| This is an ongoing campaign. | |
| My good friend Liz Crokin had a great piece on X very recently on this. | |
| I'm working on a substack piece on it myself. | |
| Well, you know, if you get big enough on X, and boy have I learned it, right? | |
| So if you get big enough, they're going to come after you with more lies. | |
| I mean, these are the stuff they've said about me. | |
| Of course, I've been swatted three times. | |
| They, you know, they cut the heads off rabbits and throw dead animals over my fence and death threats in my mailbox. | |
| And I mean, everything they say about me is a lie. | |
| They do fake screenshots, fake pictures. | |
| One time they did an aerial photo like a Google Earth over my house and put that I was a registered sex offender. | |
| And then I, you know, then I just slept with minors. | |
| I mean, they're going to come after you. | |
| They're vicious. | |
| I don't never come after anybody like that. | |
| But, um, that's what they're going to do to you. | |
| So, you know, everybody wants to have a big X account and stuff, but just, I hope, I hope you got the balls to do it because, and it doesn't bother me because I know who I am and I've, you know, and I'll be 60 this year. | |
| I'm not a kid anymore. | |
| And I just think it's hilarious. | |
| You know, I just look at it. | |
| None of it ever makes me mad. | |
| Matter of fact, you know, the more y'all do that to me, the more money I make on ad shares. | |
| So, you know, you're not, you're not even trolls anymore. | |
| You're like my little employees. | |
| There you go. | |
| Unfortunately, we have to wrap it up and leave it there. | |
| We're honored and privileged to have my good friend, the unvarnished truth teller, Cat Turd. | |
| Cat Turd, I love your love of animals. | |
| My wife and I are dog people. | |
| We've taken in strays. | |
| We have We have adopted dogs. | |
| We've had nine Yorkshire Terriers in our lifetime, including the two lovable we have now, Mimi and Peewee, brother and sister. | |
| Your love of animals, your sheltering and helping animals is noble. | |
| As W.C. | |
| Fields once said, any man, he said, who doesn't love animals and small children cannot be all bad. | |
| I don't agree with that. | |
| I love the animals and I love you for it. | |
| Thank you. | |
| I love them, and thanks for inviting me, and I appreciate it, and I'll see you the next time. | |
| All right. | |
| God bless you. | |
| All right, friends, I'm afraid we're out of time. | |
| Let me thank my co-host Troy Smith and Cat Turd for joining us today on another exciting episode of The Stone Zone. | |
| I'm headed to Milwaukee, and we'll report to you from there. | |
| A man who's gone through hell. | |
| But he's kept going, and he's smart, and he's strong, and people love him. | |
| Not everybody, but people love him and respect him. | |
| Roger Stone! |
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