Pro-Hamas Campus Demonstrators Same Who Constituted BLM/ANTIFA – CJ Pearson In The StoneZONE!
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Well, the campuses are erupting as the progressive left ...is in open revolt against the current liberal regime, protesting across the country against Genocide Joe.
Here to help break down what's going on across the country is my regular co-host Troy Smith of Slingshot.News.
Troy, welcome back in the Stone Zone.
Roger, as always, it's an honor to be here.
So, Troy, here's a perfect place to start this.
As you know, for 18 months I was the co-host of The War Room at InfoWars.com with a man who became a very close friend, like a brother, Owen Schroyer.
Owen has a video that I think summarizes what's going on and sets the table for our discussion.
Let's take a look.
We have bridges collapsing, Americans are at war, Americans are broke, we have our own problems to take care of.
I think everyone agrees with that.
I've not met a person out here that disagrees with that.
But to say it's a distraction is disingenuous, because this is part of that.
We want America to divest from Israel, to put money back into the West Bank.
Okay, okay, okay.
Here's why it's a distraction.
Why is it the message here to stop the government funding of foreign countries and to stop the funding of foreign wars?
Why isn't that the majority?
Because the amount of people that I died in the hands of Israelis is so much more disproportionate to the amount of people that I freed.
I agree.
So that's why it's an emphasis on Palestine specifically rather than saying, okay, let's stop... Okay, but here's the thing.
Our government funds both sides of the war.
Okay.
So that's what I'm saying.
It's not a war.
Well, it is a war.
To call it a war is misleading.
It's not a war.
But hold on.
Do you know how long, how long have... There's no military.
Palestine has no military.
40% of people in Gaza are under the age of 14.
What army?
Okay, so that's fine.
So I get it.
You're concerned about the Palestinian people.
That's fine.
I get that.
I understand that.
I'm saying that you have your own issues here.
And you can pick any humanitarian issue.
What about the Uyghurs in China that get tortured?
What about the Yemenis that get bombed and starved all the time by Saudi Arabia?
No, you're not!
Nobody brings them up.
I don't want to.
No, no, no.
Okay, guys, what do you need to find?
Just because, just because there's little things that are wrong happening at the same time, it doesn't take away from the importance of just emphasizing one of them.
Just because we're saying what's happening in Palestine is wrong, that doesn't mean we don't care about the Uyghur Muslims.
That doesn't care where you're done.
I agree, I agree, but nobody is out here marching for them.
Nobody comes out here marching for them.
We just gave 90 billion to Israel.
Okay.
We give them annually, we give them hundreds of billions.
It all needs to be stopped.
We need to stop funding Ukraine.
We need to stop funding Israel.
Stop funding war.
Stop funding everything.
That's what I'm saying.
We're all victims of our government.
We all pay taxes for wars.
That's what we need to be united on.
What should we be doing right now?
You're fine to come out here and protest.
I'm just saying, the larger unifying issue for the American people should be to, like, who here likes paying taxes?
Why don't we come together and stop paying taxes?
Then they can't fund Israel.
Then they can't fund Ukraine's war.
They can't fund any of these wars.
Maybe we can keep a dollar in our pocket so that we can go out to dinner without getting broke.
Okay, how about this?
How about this?
I'm fine with that too!
- I'm fine with that view. - You have to keep it here. - You want everybody to stop paying taxes. - You like taxes?
What a misnomer!
This university costs $40,000 to $50,000 a year.
How much does UT cost?
$16,000 a year in-state.
What a misnomer.
What a misnomer.
This university costs $40,000 to $50,000 a year.
No, it doesn't.
How much does UT cost?
$16,000 a year in state.
Okay, how much out of state?
$25,000.
So your public education costs tens of thousands of dollars.
That's not free.
Your taxpayer dollars aren't doing that.
If your parents' income level is below a certain level, you get it for free.
That's a given fact.
Nothing is free.
Nothing is true.
Pilgrims, have you ever seen a Pilgrim?
It's like tiny.
It's like $500.
No, it's not.
It covers my tuition.
Okay, here's the thing.
I don't disagree with you, and there's a point to be made about how every single time there's a new thing to worry about.
It was Ukraine, it was this.
I do agree that there's a point of that, but at the same time, that's how human nature functions.
I agree.
In response to My colleague, Owen Schroer, he's killing it now that he's back on the war room every day.
the israeli people the ukrainian people the russian people the american people are sick of war i don't think any of us want war anymore we're all being scammed by our government we're all being lied to by our media so that's uh my uh colleague uh uh owen schroyer uh he's uh killing it now that he's back on the war room every day i think that's four o'clock central uh five o'clock Eastern.
But the irrationality on the campuses, what's going on in the campuses is really quite shocking.
Here to help analyze that and help break it down is a gentleman with a long history of talking and working and fighting for freedom.
C.J. Pearson joins us now.
Good to see you, Roger.
Thank you so much for having me.
Well, first of all, C.J., you made a valiant attempt at public office.
You You ran a positive, upbeat, optimistic, issues-based campaign.
You worked very hard to raise a not insubstantial amount of money.
You worked very hard.
You were a very articulate candidate.
The results were unsatisfying.
I saw many questions about the integrity of the selection and the security of the ballots in your contest.
So I think it is entirely possible, as they used to say in Boston, that you was robbed.
But I congratulate you because I respect the man who, as Theodore Roosevelt says, the man who gets in the arena, not the man who stands on the sidelines pointing out where the strong man, the doer of deeds could have done them better.
But the man who actually gets in the arena, whose face is marred with blood and dust and sweat, but knows the thrill of high achievement and.
And it's one of my favorite quotes.
It was said by Theodore Roosevelt.
Richard Nixon appropriated it.
It's the beginning of every one of my books.
I republish it.
But that's how I feel about you.
You're a man who had the courage to get in the arena.
Well, thank you so much for that, Roger.
And, you know, that campaign, you know, was an experience of a lifetime.
I learned so much from it.
And the reason I got involved in that race is because I believe that young people, if we don't put, you know, our names in the hat, if we don't actually have some skin in the game, we will lose this country.
And we're seeing that firsthand with what's happening on our college campuses.
When young people think there is only one set of beliefs that they are allowed to hold in this country, that they have to stand by terrorist organizations.
They have to sympathize with people that hate us.
These people somehow believe that when these people chant, death to the West, that it somehow doesn't include them who are living in the West.
It's a little bit ironic to me.
What I also learned in that campaign is that the establishment and the Uniparty hate everyone.
They hate the America First agenda.
We saw it firsthand.
I was a 21-year-old guy who decided to fight for my generation and was met with A governor who decided to dump $200,000 against me in my campaign.
Almost unheard of.
But you gotta think about the fact that if we had won that race, what would we be able to do right now?
We'd be able to actually go on college campuses and make the case that these young people are being led astray by a movement that wants to see them dead.
Hamas is not going to stop with Israel.
They want to see the death of the West, and we cannot allow that to happen.
I could not agree with you more.
Troy, your thoughts?
CJ, you know, when we saw, we just, you probably saw that video of Owen Troyer as well, you know, there just seems to be such a lack of common sense on these campuses.
Do you think that they can be reformed or do you think we need to move entirely away from the university system?
You know, that's an interesting question.
I think it's it's you know, I've made the argument before that.
I think a lot of conservatives should probably opt out of pursuing higher education in 2024.
You don't really need it.
You know, there's so much you can learn online.
You know, a good book list will probably take you a lot further than a college education these days.
But at the same time.
You know, to go back to what Roger was just saying, I have a lot of respect for people who get in the arena.
And I think conservatives ought to still make their voices heard on these campuses.
They ought to, you know, have some counter protests.
I know that that's not necessarily in our nature as conservatives to go out, picket, hold some signs, and complain.
The left is very good at it.
But I think that, you know, we have to show the alternative view and the alternative side of things.
But what I will say that's important here is to realize that this is happening on the campuses of elite institutions.
You don't see this happening at the University of Alabama, which of course some people call the Harvard of the South.
I went there.
And of course other schools like UGA and Auburn.
Where you see this happening is on the campuses of Columbia, Yale, Harvard.
Those cosmopolitan schools where all these kids are insanely privileged, which I believe is the reason they're acting up like this, because they hate themselves and they try to atone so much for this false sense of privilege that they have that they are willing to even sympathize with literal terrorists in an attempt to do it.
Is it my imagination, CJ, or are the very people who are now Protesting in favor of Palestine, protesting in favor of Hamas.
Are they not in fact the same people who constituted Black Lives Matter and also Antifa?
Is it my imagination?
Are they the exact same people?
No, you're exactly right.
It's happening in the exact same time as what?
A presidential election.
There's nothing organic about any of this stuff.
I was just reading an article in the Wall Street Journal which actually shows that George Soros is behind this.
He is behind the funding of these Hamas protests that are happening all across the country.
I know the left will say, well he's Jewish, why would he be doing that?
George Soros doesn't care about his religion.
He doesn't care about America.
He doesn't care about the country that he claims to love.
Do you really think he cares about funding these people that want to see the extermination of his faith?
No, he doesn't at all.
He wants to sow the seeds of division in this country, and he is doing it by backing these inorganic protests.
It was funny.
I saw a tweet from Cernovich yesterday where he said that he was on a college campus and there was someone wearing a shirt that said, Cernovich is a fascist.
They looked at him because they had, you know, just crossed paths and had no idea who he was, but they knew him well enough to wear a shirt that said Cernovich is a fascist.
The same thing is happening here.
These kids have no idea why they hate Israel.
They have no idea why they love Hamas.
All they know is they've been told to, and it goes to show that what we're seeing on our college campuses happening right now is not education.
It is flagrant, unapologetic, and unequivocal indoctrination.
Well, the real interesting thing here is these protests are coming from the left.
This is going to be what is not yet a hot war but could become one.
This war in the Middle East could be for the Democratic Party what the Vietnam War was for them.
Joe Biden cannot win Michigan, Minnesota without Muslim Americans who are a very substantial part of the electorate in those states.
And they have, they're both going to be competitive, I think.
And they, we saw in the primaries, a third of Democratic primary voters Voted against Joe Biden to protest his handling of matters in the Middle East.
They view him as tilting too much to Israel.
Ironically, however, we wouldn't have any of this problem if the Biden administration wasn't very naively unfreezing what I think is somewhere around $126 billion total of assets for the regime we wouldn't have any of this problem if the Biden administration wasn't very naively unfreezing what I think is somewhere around $126 billion total of assets
And it's not going to be used to restart their news.
Nuclear weapons development program, and it's not going to be used to finance Hamas and Hezbollah and Islamic terrorism.
It's just not realistic.
At the same time, the administration seems to be trying to restrain Israel from any response
But then you look at this event last week of how the news jumped on this Iranian incredible attack on Israel that included both drones and missiles in which after this Kabuki theater, I think one person died and the whole thing was made for
For TV show war, not even a real war, but the theatrics, the optics of the war where we're calling the enemy advancing, move all of your assets out of harm's way because we're going to bomb right here at this time, for example.
So I think we're being played, I guess is my point.
Troy?
You know, CJ, we see so much in these protests.
What do you see happening here?
Do you think that these things are just going to get worse and worse and worse and they're going to develop into riots?
Because that seems to me to be the trajectory that we're on now, where you're going to see some serious damage done in cities across America.
What are your thoughts on that?
You know, I think you're exactly right.
I think we're seeing a replay of history right now.
You know, where is the DNC convention this year?
It's in the city of Chicago.
And if you don't think that there's going to be some tensions surrounding that, especially with what's going on right now in Israel and the Middle East, you know, I've, I don't know, you know, based on what you're seeing right now happening on college campuses, we're definitely going to see this boil over, you know, by the time of the convention.
And so at the end of the day, this is a tired playbook.
The left does this every single election cycle, you know, In 2016, it was BLM.
In 2020, you have COVID.
You have more BLM riots.
I don't think they have a new playbook that they know how to play.
But what I think, to Roger's point, is interesting is I think that the media is desperately trying to make Joe Biden a wartime president.
Which, you know, of course, when it comes to re-election, is helpful to him, despite the fact that, you know, none of this would be happening if Donald J. Trump were President of the United States.
Hamas would not have done what they did on October 7th.
Ukraine, you know, would not be an issue at all because Russia would have been in check.
None of these things would be happening if we actually had a world leader, a leader of the free world that was respected on the world stage.
But we do not.
We have a man who sits on stage, reads a teleprompter and says the word pause when he was just simply supposed to pause.
That is who we have leading our country right now.
And the world knows it.
But most unfortunately, our enemies know it, too.
Commercial break and then we'll be back with more political talk with our friend CJ.
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All right, so I guess Ilhan Omar got into the act, as she always does.
We've got a quick video.
Let's take a look.
I have the proud honor of representing this incredible university in Congress.
And I have to tell you, I am incredibly moved by your courage and bravery as a student body in putting your bodies on the line to stand in solidarity to end the genocide that is taking place in Gaza at this moment.
I have to tell you it's been incredibly painful for the last five days to see the discovery, while there is a discovery, of a mass grave of more than 200 Palestinians in Khan Yunus, that our media, our elected politicians, our president,
every single leader is spending their time and energy in talking about the protests as if you all are not every single leader is spending their time and energy in talking about the protests as if you all are not here to give
What started out five days ago with only 70 students organizing themselves at Columbia University has now led to a nationwide university movement.
This woman, first of all, I don't understand why she hasn't been prosecuted for her violation of U.S.
immigration law, but putting that question aside, CJ, what do you think?
You know, it's typically Ilhan Omar.
If it's between the U.S.
and any of our enemies, Ilhan Omar is choosing our enemies every single time.
And, you know, I saw a great point made, you know, by Senator Katie Brett earlier this week, that every single one of these students who are on a student visa, who are actively engaging in these protests, who are actively supporting Hamas, should be deported.
Every single one of them.
And I think that the reason That so many of them wear these masks that you see in that video in the background are because many of them probably are, you know, on these student visas, especially at a lot of these elite institutions like Columbia and Penn and Princeton and all these places.
And I think that we should actually, you know, just make the case that if you are sympathizing with our enemies who, again, not only want to see Israel wiped away, you know, from the from the face of earth, but also the United States as well, you have no place here in America.
Excellent.
Troy, a thought?
Well, you know, Roger, I see that clip of Ilhan Omar there, and I'm seeing Congress picking sides, and I'm seeing people, you know, on air, and I don't want to, you know, I'm not here to bash Israel, I'm not trying to bash Israel, but, you know, you look at the news, and you look at what people are saying, and you have U.S.
Congressmen on TV saying, well, I believe that those who bless Israel will be blessed, and that's why I decided to support the aid package.
Well, that's not your job.
Your job is not to advocate on behalf of Israel or to do things that you think are going to put you in good favor with God.
Your job is to represent the people of your district and the people in America, whether they're leftist, Republican, conservatives, whoever, they don't like to see their tax money going overseas.
They don't like to see U.S.
Congressmen and women picking sides.
We don't need to be involved in this conflict.
I think the best thing that we can do Is to look ourselves in the mirror, as Owen Troyer kind of pointed out there in that video, and say, hey, we're funding both sides of this war.
Let's take our money out of the war.
Let's get our U.S.
congressmen and women to stop bickering and fighting over two countries that are thousands of miles away from the United States.
And let's get back to worrying about what actually is happening here in America.
I think it's a disgrace to see these people, whether it's the people, you know, basically waving the Israeli flag or waving the Ukrainian flag or waving The Palestine flag, it's like, let's get back to America.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
Well, in all honesty, if you look at the polling, it's quite interesting.
There's a distinct difference between voter attitudes towards more money for Ukraine than there is for Israel.
Israel, you get a more muddled result.
If you ask voters, should our support for Israel remain at the current level, be increased or be decreased, It breaks down about a third, a third, a third.
That would still mean that two-thirds of voters favor some aid for Israel, either at current or additional levels.
Now, we give Israel 1.4 billion dollars a year already.
1.4 billion.
It's a very large sum of money.
They just got more in this On the other hand, if the Biden administration is restraining Israel because they're worried about the politics of Michigan or because they can't explain how their friends in Iran are funding the genocide if the Biden administration is restraining Israel because they're worried about the The genocide of Jews.
This is all of the killing must stop.
The problem here, of course, is there are atrocities on both sides.
It's an ugly, ugly war.
So the above all, I think Trump said this is about who wins at this moment.
It is about stopping the killing.
Stopping the killing there will be much more difficult because in in radical Muslims, you have people unlike Imperial Japan, unlike Hitler's Germany, but they both wanted to live and dominate.
We now have a foe who's prepared to become a martyr to kill themselves in order to kill you and your nation.
This is a different kind of danger than we've ever faced before.
At the same time, the Biden administration essentially announces that in September they're going to force Ukraine into NATO.
It is absolutely clear that Vladimir Putin has made it very clear that that's his red line, that that is unacceptable, that it's going to provoke a furious response.
It's inconsistent with two agreements we signed not to push Ukraine into NATO, the Budapest Memorandum and the Minsk Accords.
Under the Budapest Memorandum, which is agreed to by President George H. W. Bush, we promise the Germans agreed to the reunification of East and West Germany, and we in return agreed not to push NATO one, quote unquote, one east-west, one inch east towards Russia.
But what this really is about is not membership in some club.
It's about putting Western-funded missiles pointed at Russia on the ground in Ukraine.
That's what Putin is upset about.
It's not different when the Russians put missiles on Cuba 90 miles from our shore in 1963, and President Kennedy reacted negatively to that.
So, I think this is a different issue, but you're right about the fact That this is a problem that's not going away for the Democrats.
Well, and Roger, I think I'll point out, you know, and it's a good question, I think, for you as well, because you've observed this for a long time.
The Biden administration has a serious problem on their hands, and it's the Democrats.
They're really split on this issue, and my question to you is, what do those Democrat donors do, those wealthy Democrat donors who are heavily supporting Israel, what are they doing right now?
Where do you think that they go?
Do you think there's any way, with the White House sitting there, kind of Like almost allowing Hamas to take over universities and pro-Hamas protesters to take over universities across the country.
They can't possibly continue to support Joe Biden.
What do those people do?
Well, there's several possibilities.
Normally you would think perhaps they could find solace in the candidacy of Robert Kennedy, but Robert Kennedy much earlier took a very, very Israel can do no wrong position from which he has not departed.
So he's not a Potential, even if he does get on the ballot with his new hard left running mate, who has Soros connections, but even if he does get on the ballot, his appeal to those voters is limited.
Jill Stein will be on the ballot.
I think the Green Party has a lot of experience in ballot access.
In the last several presidential elections, they got on in 40 plus states, as I recall.
She will be she will be a potential receptacle.
The other possibility, of course, is Dr. Cornel West.
His what he's doing makes a little sense to me.
Initially, he was running for the Green Party nomination, which made some sense.
He would have had automatic ballot access in 30 states.
He could have done the very difficult and expensive process of petitioning his way on the other, say, 20.
And he'd be on the ballot.
Instead, he he dropped out of that contest and announced that he was running as an independent.
It's far, far more expensive and more difficult.
And it's not clear where he has if he has the resources to get on the ballot.
So I don't know if the Democrats got to him.
It's unclear.
But in those places where he is on the ballot, he too would be a receptacle.
But then there's the other possibility.
Some of these voters just won't vote.
They won't go to vote.
And thus, they will not be voting for Joe Biden.
Well, CJ, what do you think?
What do you think happens with these voters because the Biden administration, like Roger pointed out, you know, they have a, there's a fine line to walk here and it seems whatever side they pick, they're going to piss off half the voters in their party.
No, you're exactly right.
I think, you know, Roger's right on the money when he says that a lot of these people will just stay at home, you know, especially when it comes to the ballot access issues for Dr. West and, you know, these other candidates.
Even RFK, you know, is having some struggles with that, that, you know, he's hoping to mitigate with his pick of Nicole Shanahan, who can, you know, inject a large amount of money into the campaign.
But even him and, of course, his stance on Israel is definitely not what a lot of these pro-Hamas folks desire.
So yeah, I think it's going to be interesting to see where these people fall.
I think most of them will just stay home and throw their hands in the air and say the entire system is rigged and it's terrible, which, you know, honestly isn't a bad thing.
You know, one less vote against President Trump is a vote basically for him, and I welcome it.
Great to have you back in the Stone Zone with us.
CJ, tell folks where people can find you.
Definitely.
People can follow me on all social media platforms, C.J.
Pearson.
You guys can also check out my website, TheFreeTribune.com.
Excellent.
I want to thank our guest, C.J.
Pearson, for joining us in the Stone Zone today.
Thank you so much.
Thanks again.
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All of our foods are heavily laced with salt, which is not beneficial.
So how is the food supply affecting America's health?
It's affecting our health in a lot of ways, in ways that we've never seen before.
For example, there's a spray that they're using on oats, widely used in Cheerios, breakfast cereal bars.
Oats are probably known for their health benefits, but now they're being sprayed with a chemical called Chloromaquat and chloromaquat basically is a fertility.
It causes fertility problems in people and they know this and the problem is that people are consuming it at such a rapid rate that we're seeing now new studies are showing that fertility issues are rising in kids that are eating these Cheerios and supposedly heart healthy foods for you.
And the number one problem right now is the pesticides that are being sprayed on the foods because there's really no accountability for this.
We can account for the sodium.
We can account for the sugar and the carbohydrates and the FDA has standards for all those things.
But there really is kind of no standard or really no testing being done outside of independent testing for these spread sprays and pesticides that they're putting on our foods and also colorings.
Red number 40 also goes by Red 40 Lake and other terms.
One of the most popular colors being used in yogurt coloring, Doritos, candies, sodas, some of the most popular foods that we eat on a regular basis.
And it's linked to ADHD and the studies have been shown that this is being predominantly found in kids.
So, kids that are eating foods that are high in these red dyes and colors like that are being told that they have a hyperactive disorder.
They go to the doctor and the doctor prescribes a medication instead of working on their diet.
And this is what we see really, it's very common that The medical health industry does not really take any weight in nutrition and that's where everything kind of draws the line.
They want to give you drugs and then drugs have side effects.
In a certain number of years of taking these medications, they know the side effects.
However, they're not really interested in telling you how to be healthy to not take medications because that is their primary objective.
To make sure that Americans are on pharmaceuticals.
And Americans take more pharmaceuticals than any other country in the world.
And it's horrible because we're now giving drugs to kids because of chemicals in the food.
And we're treating it as if it's a hypersensitivity issue when it comes to children and classrooms and not being able to sit still and things like that.
And we're misdiagnosing it by professionals as a hyper ADHD, hyper disorder, when in fact, it's because of the food dyes in the food, which we're being not, we're not being told exactly what the damage is really caused.
And all in all, we're seeing a rise, a rise, now this has already been established, but now a rise in type 2 diabetes in children, which never existed in the 70s and 60s.
Type 2 diabetes was an onset for adults that have issues with their pancreas due to years of Eating poorly or possibly genetics.
But now what we're seeing is genetics being handed down.
Genetics from the 80s of obese parents that weren't eating good, that were eating lots of sugar.
A soda, two or three sodas a day just absolutely depletes the pancreas of the insulin that's needed to keep the body sustaining at a functioning level.
And when this happens repeatedly, day after day after day, And then now the parents are obese that they have children.
It's in the children's genetics because it was at the parent.
The parents made themselves obese.
So then they passed on this obesity gene.
The children and the parents now have to work even harder together to make sure that kids don't get these diseases that are directly linked to food.
Type 2 diabetes is something that should never happen with kids but parallel to the rise in type 2 diabetes is an exact parallel in the rise of sugar that's being put in our foods.
Sugar and salt are being put in our foods at a level that match so that we can't really differentiate the taste.
So foods that would normally be sweet they add salt to it and now you have you can add even more sugar and the sugar usually comes in America in the form of High fructose corn syrup, which is genetically modified corn, and also sprayed with glycosate roundup, which we'll talk about in another show.
Because these specific chemicals that I mentioned right now are just the tip of the iceberg.
And the truth is, is that when you look at a bag of Doritos in America, you'll see so many ingredients that you just can't pronounce.
But you look at the same bag in Europe where they ban these type of chemicals in food, and you'll see just the basic ingredients that should be there.
The question you need to ask yourselves is, why are they willing to spend the money to add all these additional chemicals to the food?
Each one of these chemicals cost them money.
The reason that they do it is because they know what we don't and what we don't have access to is what these chemicals actually do.
What does RED-40 do?
What does chloroquine do?
What do these things do?
And what they do is they cause health risks in children and adults to the level that we've never seen before.
Again, type 2 diabetes in kids, that means children have to inject themselves with insulin.
And knowing that the doctors do not tell them you shouldn't be eating soda.
You shouldn't be eating those toaster strudels for breakfast.
Maybe you should put down the popcorn.
Maybe you shouldn't eat the pizza that goes in the microwave.
Okay?
We've dumbed ourselves down as a country to the point now when parents go to the grocery store they buy foods for themselves and then they buy foods that come in colorful packages for the children.
And they don't even take a look at the ingredients to say, what's in this food that I'm feeding my kids?
And without looking at that and understanding what these chemicals are, they don't understand why their children are behaving the way they do.
And when they behave the way they do, they take them to the doctor and the first thing they get is a prescription drug.
Again, masking the issue and not really addressing the true cause of the problem, which is the chemicals in the food.
For those of you who might wonder, Amina Lai joins us today from my studio here in South Florida, where I keep my very substantial collection of Nixon memorabilia.
So, for those who say, well, this guy's talking about health and fitness issues, but he's surrounded by all kinds of Nixon stuff, that explains today's visual.
So, what can parents do, given Everything you've stated is true.
The food is poison.
It is everywhere.
It's far more extensive than people realize.
And specifically to avoid some of these chemicals that ultimately the use of becomes life-threatening, who are seriously deleterious to your health, what can parents do?
I think the number one thing that parents can and should always do is educate themselves for their sakes and for their children's sake.
It's really simple.
Take a look at the list of ingredients.
Now one thing that we do have to our favor is that the FDA does require that companies that make a nutrition label put on the nutrition label exactly what are the ingredients in the food.
If you look at the food label and you see ingredients that you can't pronounce, you might want to take a Google and Google what that is.
You'll find out that there are chemicals in the food that are directly linked to cancer, directly linked to even death and things like that.
And so basically you want to try to get organic, you want to try to get non-GMO product certified.
These are just the basic things that you can do.
Best if you can Learn how to share a garden with some people even if you can just grow some herbs if you have an apartment you can grow some things indoors and understand and learn with your kids the nature of food because soon we're going to lose that real close connection that we have with food and people are believing that the kids are believing that broccoli is disgusting but yet gogurt or something that comes in a package is really food.
That's not food that's not nutrition.
Real nutrition comes from whole foods.
So parents need to educate themselves and one thing that they can do is they can watch the FitZone because I plan on educating parents to help themselves and to help their kids so that we can stop this generation of obesity over and over again and stop blaming on genetics to start stopping the genetics, changing the genetics so they become good and we can pass on healthy genetics so our American country can have healthy children.
Excellent, excellent point.
Robert Kennedy keeps making this case about the obesity that is being nurtured by our entire food industry.
What do you make of the fact, and Tucker Carlson has reported on this very extensively, of all of these beef, chicken, and other major, major food plants Suddenly catching on fire, suddenly blowing up in mysterious explosions.
There's too many of them to be coincidental in my view.
I think the bigger picture is that we need to take a look at what's going on in Europe and understand that all of farming right now in the whole world is being under attack.
I have to say that you have to draw the lines.
You know, who owns the most farmland in America?
That'd be Bill Gates.
And what's Bill Gates' motive is, is to produce GMO foods and that's going to be the mainstream of your food.
So you follow the money and you see where it goes.
Why are they putting these farmers out of business?
It's because they have, why is all the meat Why are all the chickens, why are all these farms catching on fires or having issues?
Well, what's to replace them?
What's to replace them is lab-grown meat.
Who's paying for that?
Whose money is that?
That's Bill Gates.
So when we take a look at, unfortunately, when we take a look at nutrition now, it has become political.
Our food supply is very political.
Even the war with Ukraine and their food supply and how they're supplying Europe, very political.
But under that note, our food supply is under attack.
And the control that they're trying to give you is going to be an option that is bad for your health.
So we need to write in and we need to make sure that they don't take control of the farmland.
Because once they take control of the farmland, you won't have options anymore.
An excellent point.
All right, we're going to be right back.
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We've got all that cool Nixon memorabilia.
He is an expert on nutrition, longevity, and bodybuilding, and I have a lot of more questions for him when we come back.
We're talking about the poisoning of our food supply.
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I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are in the Stone Zone.
You can join us every day at five o'clock at patriot.tv.
Great programming there, including my good friend, General Michael Flynn, and Brandon Howes, who is always on top of the most important political, cultural, and spiritual stories in the country and the world.
So, we are with Amin Ali.
He is a veteran bodybuilder, but also a trainer of champions, an expert in nutrition, longevity, and diet.
And as you can see, he is in our warehouse where we have a small amount of my Nixonian Political memorabilia, but there's nothing political about fitness other than the fact that the global left has in their plan poisoning us so that we become subservient.
And you made an excellent point before we cut away.
You see this particularly in the Netherlands.
There's a worldwide war on farmers, people who have been feeding the world for centuries.
Bill Gates And others want to destroy the means of production, so we have to eat the fabricated crap that's poisonous that they want to feed us.
In essence, it's really mass murder.
They've actually brainwashed everybody into thinking foods like the impossible meat and things like that are good for you, when indeed they're actually made with highly processed seed oils, which are very inflammatory for the body.
And these things don't want to cause inflammation inside the gut, but inflammation is something that happens throughout.
It's systemic.
It happens throughout the whole body.
When we talk about inflammation, we tend to talk about it like in the joints and things like that.
It's basically what the body's defense is when poison comes.
So, we get these poisons and these toxins in our system and then the body creates inflammation.
This inflammation can be misdiagnosed as rheumatoid arthritis or a number of different things, even gut issues, which they've misdiagnosed some of these things for.
In fact, what needs to be done is people's diets not only need to be clean, but they also have to incorporate some form of exercise in their daily lives to help kind of eliminate these toxins, which we cannot really eliminate because inevitably they are in our diet now.
And it doesn't seem like it's going to change.
What we have to do is educate ourselves.
Excellent words of wisdom.
So some of my viewers looking here on the live stream want to know why do they call you the guru?
Well, I think, you know, better than anybody since I met you when I was probably 19 years old after I had won the best bodybuilding contest in the area, which is where we met in the northern Virginia, D.C. area.
And with self-taught was originally as a teenager was was bullied and then turned that into bodybuilding as a way to overcome the challenges that I had.
Not being a big person, I was a very small person, I got picked on quite a bit for that.
So I turned that life around with hard work and dedication and effort and learned everything I could about diet, nutrition, exercise, using it in a way to thinking in my mind, I have to survive this way.
So I felt like my back was up against the wall.
And for me learning there became much Faster and much more meaningful because I had to learn these things in order to change my appearance very rapidly to fit in with all the other kids.
I did so I ended up winning teenage competitions.
I won the adult bodybuilding competitions.
You yourself were interested in bodybuilding at the time, which is how we quite met in the gym.
At Olympus Gym in Falls Church, Virginia, where a lot of people have come out of there, Dave Batista, some other famous people, King Kamali, bodybuilding professionals have come out of that gym.
And we ended up forming a very good friendship and I have been your coach and trainer and nutritional advisor.
For over 30 years now and since that time has happened originally came from turning people into bodybuilding professionals fitness coaching in that level and then really started to understand how bodybuilding can be used in a healthy way to help you live longer for longevity.
So starting off with learning in the core information of building the body and using nutrition to become stronger leaner and look better also have strength in being versatile.
So power lifting and other types of strength techniques and parlaying that into learning how to live longer.
Now that I'm older and I have a child, I want to also understand exactly how to feed my child correctly.
And everything that you're being told from the food pyramid is wrong.
I learned that at a young age.
I realized that the food pyramid was wrong and now they redid the food pyramid and it's still wrong.
These things are heavily influenced by lobbyists that lobby for the sugar companies or any of these other companies.
It's not, they're not really have your health in interest.
It's really about A consumer relationship where they just want you to buy their products and a lot of times these chemicals are addictive and we just haven't done enough research to find out which chemicals are making us want their products.
I think McDonald's has done a phenomenal job of making you crave their food.
I just did a small personal study on my own.
If this was real, I fed my child McDonald's for a few days and all of a sudden he was craving it like I've never seen before.
And when I told him I wouldn't give it to him, he had a temper tantrum, something he'd never had before.
So it was clear that there was something in the food.
What it is, we may never know because they have so much money, they're suppressing this stuff.
But at the same time, we can simply look at the ingredients and decide that if it has more than five ingredients and they're not natural, maybe it's something we should avoid.
All right.
I'm giving you one minute.
Tell us about your son.
You have one minute.
My son, Ezra, is eight years old.
He loves cooking.
He cooks for us.
And, you know, right now I'm going through a little something.
Roger's going to put that link below.
I'm fighting for my freedom and my life.
And for my son, I'm being accused of something that I'm not guilty of.
And I'm looking for help, if I can, to To make it to trial and to get the lawyers right now.
So thank you guys.
God bless you.
I look forward to seeing you soon and hopefully you'll see my son here cooking a steak for Roger.
All right.
That's it for the day.
Thank you to our good friend Amina Lai.
Indeed, I want you to take a look at what he's going through.
But until tomorrow, I'm Roger Stone.
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