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April 2, 2024 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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BIBLE BACKLASH – Country & Western Superstar Lee Greenwood Enters The StoneZONE!
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The Stone Zone with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now, here's your host, Roger Stone!
Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.
I hope you and your family had a blessed and joyous Easter.
Who would ever have thought that a former President of the United States advocating for the Bible Would be the slightest bit controversial.
A country and Western superstar and one of the most beloved patriots and Christians in the country, Lee Greenwood, has produced the God Bless the USA Bible, and his friend Donald J. Trump made a video advocating that folks buy it.
It's an amazing Bible, but it sparked a controversy from the godless left.
Joining me now is my co-host, Troy Smith at Slingshot.News, and then joining us momentarily will be Lee Greenwood himself to help us break down this extraordinary development.
Troy, welcome back on the show.
I hope you had a great holiday.
It was a great Easter, Roger, and I hope you had the same.
God bless you.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, Lee Greenwood joins us now to talk about his Bible and the fact that he has flipped the godless atheistic left.
Out of their minds, just by putting it forward.
Thanks very much, and hi guys.
Troy, Roger, nice to talk to you.
I have some shocking news.
I'm switching to the left, April Fool's.
Thank God, you almost gave me a heart attack there.
The first thing I wanted to say to you is that what I really believe to be true, and yes, we had a wonderful Easter yesterday.
My kids were in town.
Dalton came in from Chicago with his wife, recently married, and then Parker came in from Miami, where he's at the University of Miami getting his Master's in Music Education.
And so we talked about this a little bit.
I really believe that a lot of the people on the left are Christians.
And what's a shame is that they will put their hatred for Donald Trump in front of their religion, in front of their beliefs that faith is important in this country.
And thank you for asking about the God Bless the USA Bible, because we've been It's interesting that the Bible is 2,000 years old.
This is nothing new.
President Trump a copy of it.
I signed it.
And as a matter of fact, he signed another copy and sent it back to me, which I have proudly on my desk here.
It's interesting that the Bible is 2,000 years old.
This is nothing new.
What is new about this particular Bible, it has four documents in the back of the Bible we have inserted at the request of the publisher.
That's the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Pledge of Allegiance, by the way, and the Bill of Rights, and a handwritten version of God Bless the USA for those people who would just like to have that memory.
But those documents are very important because that's how our country got started.
And what's wrong with putting those documents along with the faith that people had when they came here on the Mayflower and they settled in this country to get away from the restrictions of the King of England who said, we absolutely are not going to allow you to have the religion of your choice.
Yeah, Lee, as you know, when you were kind enough to do my WABC radio show in New York, we talked extensively about this Bible.
I spoke to the President yesterday to wish him a Happy Resurrection Sunday.
He told me, you've got to get yourself one of these.
It's absolutely beautiful.
Let's roll President Trump talking about the Bible.
I'm proud to be partnering with my very good friend, Lee Greenwood.
Who doesn't love his song, God Bless the USA, in connection with promoting the God Bless the USA Bible.
This Bible is the King James Version and also includes our Founding Father documents.
Yes, the Constitution, which I'm fighting for every single day, very hard, to keep Americans protected.
Also, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, and the Pledge of Allegiance are all part of this.
God bless the USA Bible, and it's very important and very important to me.
I want to have a lot of people have it.
You have to have it for your heart, for your soul.
Many of you have never read them and don't know the liberties and rights you have as Americans and how you are being threatened to lose those rights.
It's happening all the time.
It's a very sad thing that's going on in our country, but we're going to get it turned around.
Religion and Christianity are the biggest things missing from this country, and I truly believe that we need to bring them back, and we have to bring them back fast.
I think it's one of the biggest problems we have.
That's why our country is going haywire.
We've lost religion in our country.
All Americans need a Bible in their home, and I have many.
It's my favorite book.
It's a lot of people's favorite book.
This Bible is a reminder that the biggest thing we have to bring back America and to make America great again is our religion.
Religion is so important.
It's so missing, but it's going to come back, and it's going to come back strong, just like our country is going to come back strong.
In the end, we do not answer to bureaucrats in Washington.
We answer to God in heaven.
Christians are under siege.
We must protect content that is pro-God.
We love God, and we have to protect anything that is pro-God.
We must defend God in the public square and not allow the media or the left-wing groups to silence, censor, or discriminate against us.
We have to bring Christianity back into our lives and back into what will be again a great nation.
Our Founding Fathers did a tremendous thing when they built America on Judeo-Christian values.
Now that foundation is under attack, perhaps as never before.
What can we do?
Stand up, speak out, and pray that God will bless America again.
I'm proud to endorse and encourage you to get this Bible.
We must make America pray again.
Pray, get educated, get motivated, and stand with me and the legions of Americans asking God to bless our great nation, to bring our great nation back, and to make America great again.
I'm proud to partner with Lee in this offering.
He's a very special man, both as a talent, but maybe even more so as a human being.
He's very, very special.
And I think you all should get a copy of God Bless the USA Bible now and help spread our Christian values with others.
There you have it.
Let's make America pray again.
God bless you and God bless the USA.
Now, to me, that was so much more than just a promotion for this great Bible.
And I think that message, as put forward by the president, is vitally, vitally important.
Lee, were you surprised at the backlash among the mindless left about that simple message?
Not at all.
And you know, Troy, you're much younger than I am, but I will tell you that I've lived a life all my life.
I went to the First Baptist Church when I was 13 years old in Sacramento, California, where I was raised.
And I didn't know anything about people on the left.
I didn't know that there was actually a part of the United States somewhere that actually hated America enough that they would get on media and condemn it.
And now it seems like most of the mainstream media has sided with that group of people to also condemn America for so many things.
You know, we're the most benevolent country on this earth, and we've taken care of so many people.
Look at the wars in Korea and Vietnam, World War I, World War II, where we defended other countries with our lives, left blood on other shores, just because we believe freedom is precious.
Freedom is under attack.
However, my kind of freedom, to me, is a Christian freedom.
We started as a Christian nation.
Why aren't we still considered that?
Look, I'm a hard-boiled political strategist, but in all honesty, if there was ever a time that we needed divine intervention, when we needed prayer, that time is now.
Everything that we hold dear, all the fundamental underpinnings of this country, Which is based on Judeo-Christian values are under attack.
And it's just, it's amazing to me that the same weekend, Easter weekend, the holiest of weekends, the president is under attack for advocating the Bible.
At the same time, Joe Biden is declaring it to be Transgender Visibility Day, which is an insult to every Christian in the country.
I honestly think, That they've lost their minds.
I mean, no one can believe that that will win them votes.
It is it is really offensive, I think, to every Christian in the country.
We're going to put up the website where people can go order this great Bible.
I've ordered mine.
I ordered it as soon as I saw the president's video.
There you have it, folks.
God bless the USA Bible dot com.
We'll leave that up for a second.
God bless the USA Bible dot com.
You can also go to Lee's website, and it's available through the website as well.
This is an amazing cultural development.
We've got about a minute.
Troy, do you have a question for Lee?
And then we're going to let him go.
Absolutely.
Mr. Greenwood, could you just speak real quickly about The the anger that is shown by these people.
Do you think that people should be discouraged by that?
How should they at home feel when they see you put out a Bible and you're attacked for it and the president?
I mean, how should we feel about that?
Well, the key word in your question, Troy, is they.
Who are they?
And it's interesting that everybody considers my career non-controversial.
I have never been anyone to condemn anyone else.
I don't use my stage for a pulpit.
I don't even broadcast the fact that I make a little joke here or there about my association with former President Trump.
But I've sang for 10 different presidents, and I've also been employed by the government under Five different ministrations as the National Endowment of the Arts Council, and of course now I'm a trustee for the Kennedy Center.
And so all I do is try to be a good American, a good citizen.
And when people say and shake their finger at me because I'm associated with a former President Donald Trump, I was associated with President Obama and President Carter and President Clinton.
So, during the firearms memorial at Yankee Stadium after the attack on America, President Clinton was standing right with me when I sang there for the firearms memorial.
You know, you can't condemn me for what I do.
You may shake your finger at me because I'm a Republican and a conservative, but you certainly can't do it because I'm a Christian.
All right, folks.
There you have it.
You can go to LeeGreenwood.com.
We're going to put up that Bible address one more time.
Let's do that.
God bless the USABible.com, folks.
Order yours right now.
Lee Greenwood, we're honored by your presence.
God bless you, my friend, and thanks for jumping on at late notice.
We're really very, very welcome.
Very, very grateful to have you.
Thanks, Roger, and you boys.
You as well, Troy.
Thank you.
Have a great day.
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If you're just tuning in, I'm Roger Stone.
We were honored to have Lee Greenwood, the country and Western superstar, and of course, best known for his national anthem, really, God Bless the USA.
It's amazing to me that there's actually a controversy about the fact that President Trump advocated the purchase of this amazing illustrated Bible.
But that's where the country is headed.
And then, as I said, Troy, what's particularly amazing about this, and we'll get to this a bit later, is the fact that they attack Trump for promoting the Bible, at the same time they are promoting, on the holiest of holy days for Christians, they're promoting Transgender Visibility Day.
Now, I don't care who you are, even the most hardcore leftist cannot think that that's a vote getter, cannot think that that has broad appeal to Americans and not recognize that it's offensive to so many Christians.
But first, let's talk, Troy, about Robert F. Kennedy's campaign, because, well, I think he made an egregious error last week.
He tried to build a great deal of suspense around the naming of his running mate.
There were rumors that it would be a former Minnesota governor, Jesse Ventura.
There were also rumors planted that it would be a football great, Aaron Rodgers.
There had earlier been some speculation that Tulsi Gabbard, the former congresswoman from Hawaii, once a Democrat, now an independent, was in contention And then he came forward with this choice that is a first of all, it leaked, which destroyed the suspense of the moment.
But then secondarily, her politics seem to be hard, hard, progressive left.
I have a piece I just put up at StoneZone.com, also putting it out on my sub stack, because I want people who who were wobbly on Donald Trump, voted for him last time, thinking about voting for him again, but might have been considering RFK to thinking about voting for him again, but might have been considering RFK to understand the way this has really revealed for us who So, Well, and Roger, you pointed out something that's pretty substantial there, and I think it needs to be emphasized.
It's that this campaign has major leak problems, and every time they try to build anything, Diana Falzone of Mediaite leaks it.
And I did a piece on this, Roger, that's got, I think, over 200,000 impressions on Twitter.
And we ran some ads on it and people really picking up on it because RFK's campaign has a leak.
And as you've stated here before, any presidential campaign that has the amount of problems with leaking that this campaign has obviously has structural issues.
And as we've talked about here on the show before, I think this move is a sellout move.
It's a move to bring on a billionaire that has a lot of money, that's willing to put it towards the campaign.
She's been a part of the conversation.
Shanahan played a huge role in the Super Bowl ad that we discussed here on The Stone Zone.
You know, the idea that he's going to sell out, I still don't think he gets on the ballot in a lot of these states.
You've confirmed that as well, Roger.
And at the same time, as you point out, there's a lot of questions about this person.
Here's Robert F. Kennedy, who spends a majority of his time talking about censorship.
He has to do the podcast circuit because he's not allowed on mainstream media, and yet his His running mate was married to a co-founder of Google that spends their time censoring him.
She's vaxxed.
She's boosted.
RFK spends a lot of time talking about the COVID vaccines, the danger of that.
His running mate played along with that.
So as we're going into the election here, Roger, it's kind of, my question is, who are they trying to appeal to?
Who does this, I mean, who in the RFK camp does this selection appeal to?
Maybe you can help Answer that question, Roger.
I can't figure that out.
I mean, Shanahan is at best an obscure attorney and social justice advocate, unknown to the American public.
As you point out, she's best known for being part of a love triangle, allegedly, with Sergey Brin, who is the founder of Google, Google being the number one culprit in the country in terms of election interference.
We had Dr. Robert Epstein on my 77 WABC radio show not long ago.
It was one of the best shows we've ever done.
It's amazing the way Google manipulates the information that Americans get in order to affect elections.
That's a discussion for another day.
Uh, she was rumored to be in a love triangle with Elon Musk, somebody I actually admire, and then shortly after that she and Bryn were divorced and she got an extraordinary windfall.
I think you put your finger on it in the sense that what made her attractive to RFK was her checkbook, but she is really not politically Copacetic with the issues that he's chosen to emphasize.
Now, it's interesting, RFK talks about health freedom, and in that area, I applaud him.
He has a concern about the border.
I also think he's basically imitating Donald Trump's position on that.
He never talks much about the fact that he wants advocating putting those who don't believe in his climate agenda in prison, or his support of abortion on demand, or his support of reparations for people who may or may not have been the descendants of slaves.
Shanahan is the founder of something called the BioEcho Foundation, which is a San Francisco-based foundation that serves as a money dump for various left-wing causes.
She's overseen $10 million in contributions to the Silicon Valley Community Foundation, an organization that gets violent felons back onto the streets and helps illegals invade California.
They have $14 billion in assets, in assets, and they basically exploit liberal guilt to amass millions of dollars from some of the richest leftists and corporations in the country for the advancement of gender and racial and economic justice.
Shanahan's also a major financial supporter of Measure J in Los Angeles County, which is essentially defund the police in practice.
Uh, Measure J forces LA County to spend 10% of its locally gathered funds on mental health treatment, housing subsidies, and other programs meant to clear the county jails.
This money cannot be allocated to law enforcement or prisons.
It's a step towards revolutionizing the criminal justice system under the Black Lives Matter flag.
Essentially, it's a new racial caste system.
She's also a huge financial supporter of Los Angeles County District Attorney George Gascon.
If you don't know him, he's the male version of Alvin Bragg.
He's the male version of Fonny Willis.
He's another soft crime Soros funded prosecutor.
There's been a major effort to Remove him.
This woman doesn't fit the coalition that Kennedy keeps saying he's trying to put together.
It's kind of shocking, but I think it should end any delusion among moderates or anti-establishment conservatives that Robert Kennedy is a viable alternative.
Sure, he's pushed back against Big Pharma, but the policies that he advocates when it comes to social justice Would ruin the country even faster than Big Pharma has.
I really found this choice shocking.
So what explains it?
To me, Troy, this tells me that his effort to get on the ballot is not going well and that they need more money to pay paid petition circulators because they don't have enough volunteers or their volunteers don't have the skills or the discipline Necessary to collect the necessary and required signatures in the time frame required.
So I think what Ms.
Shanahan brought was her checkbook.
And I noticed that RFK has gone from saying that his ballot access drive would cost $20 million to now saying it will cost $50 million.
Look, Robert Kennedy has some interesting things to say.
But it's going to take somebody like Donald Trump to take on the deep state, whether it is Trump's chutzpah, his aura, his essence.
He's a wrecking ball, and that's what's called for now, a wrecking ball, not an effete, polite liberal with a running mate who is funding the very people that are destroying this country.
Roger and I'd just like to ask you, you know, the Shanahan pick is interesting to me because I think, and I could be wrong about this, but I think there's a thing in this country where a political outsider who, you know, I would call Kennedy kind of an outsider, I mean he has that outsider appeal, although he is a Kennedy.
It's hard to say that a Kennedy is an outsider in anything political, but in this case I think it fits.
Yet is, you know, I think throughout time we've seen kind of a more establishment running mate for an outsider candidate.
And I'm interested to hear your thoughts.
I mean, from all the things you're telling me, it sounds like Shanahan is pretty much a Democrat insider that's funding, you know, some of their major efforts.
My question to you would be, Roger, one, do you think that's accurate?
And two, what about the viability of this woman as a vice presidential candidate in general?
I mean, does she have any qualifications that would lead us to believe that she's capable of serving as vice president of the United States?
Well, the good news, Troy, is I don't think we're going to have to worry about that because she's not going to be vice president.
You know, I'll tell you what's interesting.
I have only met RFK one time in my life.
I met him, we both spoke at a seminar.
I believe it was in California.
And I had my picture taken with him, a picture that is now ubiquitous on social media.
No, I did not urge him to run.
No, I'm not advising his campaign.
No, I'm not supporting him.
I do think his position against Big Pharma is courageous, and I admire it.
That's kind of where our political commonality ends.
Yet, if you go online, you can see that Roger Stone and Steve Bannon—we're very close political associates, as you know—teamed up to urge him to run.
This is a fantasy of the left, but what's interesting is suddenly The Democrats have figured out that with the selection of Shanahan, Robert Kennedy is no longer an obstacle for Donald Trump.
If anything, Robert Kennedy has just become an obstacle for Joe Biden.
The Democrats have just unleashed a multi-million dollar effort run by a woman named Liz Smith, who's not terribly capable, to try to knock him off the ballot legally wherever they can.
Uh, and also attack him as, uh, some kind of a third column, I should say fifth column, uh, for Donald Trump, which he most definitely is not.
And they point to this fake association.
Once again, guilt by association is one of the most, one of the favorite techniques of the left.
So the fact that I met this guy once, uh, at a public event.
That has been turned into, Oh, Stone is running his campaign.
It's, it's really, really laughable.
Uh, you know, he's a compelling speaker despite his, his, the disorder, uh, that affects his voice.
And he's also a spirited debater, but in all honesty, I think his belief that he's going to get into a debate with Donald Trump and Joe Biden is unfounded.
I don't think in the end that's going to happen.
But the criteria at a minimum should be, does he get on the ballot in enough states to theoretically get 270 electoral votes?
So when everybody asks me, how's he going to do, or where do his votes come from, or who does he take votes from?
I always answer the question with a question.
Will he really get on the ballot?
Right now he's on the ballot in four states.
So, to me, that's still the biggest question.
We may be wasting our breath here entirely if he doesn't demonstrate the ability to get on the ballot.
Those deadlines really start to come pretty quickly here in June, as late as July.
But this surprise running mate underwhelms.
I expected someone who was a public figure, someone with less of a record of being a hard left progressive.
We're going to have to take a quick commercial break here.
And then when we get back, we're going to talk about the stunning and I think bewildering decision on the holiest of holy days to declare not Easter, but to first of all, limit and rule out any religious themes around limit and rule out any religious themes around the traditional Easter egg hunt at the White House.
But also to declare Easter the holiest holy days for Christians, the day that Jesus Christ rose from the dead as transgendered visibility day.
We're going to talk about that when we get back right after this message.
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So, Troy, what's the Biden White House thinking here?
You know, Roger, it's a good question.
And, you know, just before we get into this segment, I want to point out, you know, I was I was kind of in my head this morning going through the entire Biden administration because, you know, I was I was watching MSNBC this morning and I was listening to the misinformation and the lies and I was just kind of putting it together in my head and say, OK, you know, as a as a whole, is there anything positive, a single positive you could point to when it comes to the Biden administration?
I can't.
I can't.
And here's the thing about the points that the media talks about with Biden.
They say the economy's great.
The economy's not great.
The economy is terrible.
And most people are struggling to afford things like groceries.
You have this weird situation with Easter, Roger, where they declare it the day of trans visibility.
Now, I just want to ask you, Roger, politically, that has got to be the dumbest move I've ever heard, politically.
Am I wrong in stating that?
I mean, it just seems unbelievable that we would have a situation where the White House... I mean, how many trans people are there in the United States?
Maybe 1% of the population?
And not only that, but there's a far greater percentage of people Even on the left who were insulted by him basically disgracing the holiest of days, Easter.
Can you explain to me what in the hell these people were thinking politically doing something like that?
You know, Troy, I really can't.
I noticed on social media that each individual member of the Biden cabinet, in lockstep, they all We're hailing this as some great declaration.
Secretary of State Antony Blinken, a man who is trying to push the country into World War III.
The man who cancelled any peace talks surrounding the Russia-Ukraine situation.
He thinks this transgender declaration is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
And then, of course, Admiral Rachel Levine.
I mean, that's just weird.
There's no other way to describe it.
The Democratic Party used to be the party of working class people, and they won elections in this country because they had a large, blue collar, mostly Catholic constituency in the swing states.
Over time, of course, those voters have moved Occasionally, two Republican candidates, they came back to vote for Bill Clinton.
Some of them even voted for Barack Obama.
Some of them.
It looks to me like the Democrats are seeking to just boot that constituency entirely.
So, this is such a fringe issue.
And the controversy of doing it on Easter weekend, it really boggles the mind.
Now add to it this idea that in the traditional White House Easter egg hunt, your Easter eggs cannot have any even vaguely religious theme.
But what do they think Easter is about?
Why is Easter a holiday?
Why are we having an Easter egg roll?
The whole purpose of this holiday is to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
That's the purpose of the holiday.
Uh, but you, if you said that, uh, at the Easter, they'd probably throw you out in the street.
Well, and here's the thing, Roger, you know, I was baptized Catholic and I have never, it has never been a religious thing with my family.
I mean, it's never been a religious Easter ceremony.
while we do believe, it's not, you know, I think it's an opportunity for millions of Americans, whether they're religious or not, to come together and, you know, have a meal together and to associate with each other and to talk.
And sometimes, you know, for families, that's a huge thing.
That is a massive thing.
So I would point out that on top of the religious aspect, which is a total, just makes no sense.
The idea that they would attach something that is so controversial and political to a day that for millions is about the religion, but for others is about, you know, coming together as a family.
I, I don't see where any benefit and especially to the trans people because, you know, it's almost like the Biden administration yesterday.
Painted a huge target on all the trans people in this country's back because they made them the enemy of Easter.
The trans people had, you know, and I understand, you know, there's there's a lot of people say, oh, this is a satanic thing.
And who knows, you know, with the transgenders, it's a case by case basis.
But my point is, they didn't all get together and say, hey, you know, let's make this trans visibility.
That was the Biden White House.
So for a group of people that spends all their time talking about being persecuted, No, I think you're absolutely right.
being attacked and trans murders and things like that.
It would appear to me, Roger, that the Biden administration making this Easter, the day of trans visibility, was almost throwing these people that they're claiming to support and they're claiming to have a voice for, under the bus and making them a target for millions of people.
Am I wrong in saying that? - No, I think you're absolutely right.
I noticed in some of these videos, and we'll throw the first one up, Biden seems to be having a hard time.
He's really slurring as he tries to get this tripe out of his mouth.
Let's take a look at that.
Is that Adderall?
What is that?
Well, what's so special is this is the people's house.
And you expect over 40,000 people to be here, the largest ever.
And we just like to open it up to the place and let people see this is their place.
Is that Adderall?
What is that?
I can't figure out what that is.
That is unbelievable, Roger.
And that's the funniest part about, I think, this whole thing is that you have a move with the trans visibility thing that is so politically just doesn't make even any sense.
It's incoherent.
All of the Biden administration officials are pushing it out like they thought it was this grandiose idea, and the messenger of this whole insane thing is that!
This guy can't even talk!
We had another clip, Roger, of him during the same interview where he was talking about the economy, and he's trying to make a point.
He really doesn't make a point.
We can roll that clip now so we can see that.
When people are saying, you know, but Mr. President, I'm feeling, I'm feeling, you know, my buck isn't going as far.
What do you say to those folks about the economy and what's going on?
Well, I say we have the best economy in the world.
We've got to make it better.
We really do have the best economy in the world.
Jobs are up more than they've ever been.
We're in a situation where the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years is maintained.
We have people are just, but people, look, I think we're going to find out that what happened is a consequence of the crisis we had in health.
Whenever Joe Biden says, I mean that sincerely, that's how you can tell he's lying.
These employment statistics are, as I pointed out before, completely manipulated.
I mean that sincerely.
I'm truly optimistic.
Whenever Joe Biden says, I mean that sincerely, that's how you can tell he's lying.
These these employment statistics are, as I pointed out before, completely manipulated.
Yeah, we have the lowest unemployment in our history.
If you don't count the seven hundred and eighty five thousand people who stopped looking for work in December, or if you don't count the roughly two million people who stopped looking for work last year.
And then, of course, you have to take into consideration the seasonal adjustments.
Barry Habib, one of the most respected economic analysts, a real expert on both housing and the mortgage market.
Makes the case that the real unemployment rate is probably closer to 23, maybe as high as 28%.
And obviously, inflation does not come into Joe's calculation here.
Inflation is the worst that we've seen in decades.
And of course, that's eroding the buying power of the dollar.
People feel that.
They see it when they go to the grocery store.
And I would also point out to you, Troy, Notice how gasoline prices are creeping up again.
So that temporary fix of dipping into the strategic petroleum reserves prior to the last election to try to beat back the red wave, which I accurately predicted would turn out to be a pink drizzle, is wearing off.
So now we have a They don't have anything else to run on other than attacking Donald Trump.
We have to attack Donald Trump.
We talked about this a couple days ago.
Stone's prediction, gasoline will hit $4 a gallon before the next election.
Bookmark that, you'll see.
So they don't have anything else to run on other than attacking Donald Trump.
We have to attack Donald Trump.
We talked about this a couple of days ago.
They love the wrap-up smear.
That's when they take something that's false, feed it to one of their allies in the free media, get them to publish it or broadcast it, and then point to it and say, ah, you see, there's the proof that it's true.
We actually had Nancy Pelosi be caught in a video bragging about this technique they use to smear Donald Trump.
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Roger, thank you.
As always, it's an honor to be here in the Stone Zone and I wanted to end this show off where we're talking about Biden's health.
Now we have a couple clips that I want to run because it's been, it's just been a disastrous couple days for the president.
We have a clip of him talking about the Easter bunnies and actually saying the oyster bunnies.
And we also have a clip of Jill Biden and a couple of Easter bunny handlers bringing Biden out of the White House.
Let's roll those clips now.
And I'm coming down to do that Easter Egg Roll in just a minute.
Thank you all so very, very much.
Thanks, everybody.
And, by the way, say hello to oyster bunnies.
Come on up, bunnies.
Get up here so they can see you.
Come on, get in there.
Pretty big bunny, huh?
All right.
Thank you all so very, very much.
It's all yours.
President Joe.
President Joe.
Wow.
Well, What's wrong with his mouth?
Why can't he talk?
It's really strange.
Well, and it's, you know, the weirdest thing to me, Roger, is that after the last State of the Union, the media has kind of taken the position that the questions about Biden's health are over.
Now, I wanted to ask you about this politically, Roger, because to my knowledge and to what I see, the questions about Biden's health have actually gotten worse.
The State of the Union speech that the media seems to claim was some kind of major victory for President Biden because he was hyped up on Adderall and screaming, I don't think that that was some kind of great showing for Biden's mental health, do you?
No, I think the purpose of that, Troy, internally, where I think he's got many Democrats who are now petrified that he's going to take the whole ticket down in November, was to show that he's strong and vibrant.
To me, he just looked angry and extraordinarily confused.
So I think it actually backfired.
What I do find amusing is that on X, which used to be known as Twitter, he keeps challenging Donald Trump to a round of golf.
Trump, I can tell you, is a scratch golfer.
I don't think, I mean, and Joe Biden is biting off a bit more than he can chew.
But I don't know who's writing that for him.
Clearly, he's not writing it.
But the whole idea is crazy.
It's interesting that in every campaign he's run, he's always threatened a physical attack against his opponent when he ran for the U.S.
Senate in Delaware.
against John Burris, who was a trucking executive and company owner.
He threatened to take Burris out behind this high school gym and thrash him.
Burris outweighed Biden by probably 60 pounds and was much younger, would have destroyed him.
He threatened Donald Trump on numerous occasions.
So who's advocating violence?
Who is it who advocates an attack on their physical attack on their opponent?
Why, it's Joe Biden.
He's done it in every election.
He's run in.
This is a very fragile guy.
He's got a very high opinion of himself.
Unfortunately for him, based on the latest polling, the voters are not sharing that view.
So the questions about his cognitive ability are going to continue.
Remember, he's the one who said, am I up to this?
Just watch me!
Just watch me!
He kept saying.
Well, we are watching him and it's not going very well.
That performance was shocking.
You see him there on the balcony with obviously two members of his cabinet or whoever those two people were in the rabbit costumes.
His wife is clearly at his elbow.
Her job, I think, is to keep him under control.
She's not doing a very good job either.
No, Roger, and the worst thing about this, and I'd love to get your perspective on this because you've seen it from both ends.
Biden is an angry, vindictive person.
And that's evident, I think, in anybody that watches him speak.
He snaps.
We remember him screaming at Peter Doocy during that press conference where he was discussing the H.E.R.
report, which the H.E.R.
report said, you know, we're not prosecuting the guy because he is a confused old man with bad memory.
That's what they said.
Those are, those are hers words, not mine.
So, you know, I think as he's, he's very vindictive, he's very angry, he's screaming at people, and yet he gets a pass from the media for what he does.
And yet you contrast that with Ronald Reagan, who I think even people who, you know, didn't like Reagan politically would acknowledge that he was a great spokesman for the country.
He was a good meaning well-intentioned human being.
And I think that's evident in all of his speeches and watching him.
Can you compare and contrast the treatment of Biden and Reagan and how they've kind of given a pass to Biden where Reagan, they looked for something that wasn't even there?
Yeah, this idea that Reagan was slipping at the end of his second term, I saw no evidence of it.
His decline was relatively swift after he left office.
He was also very public about it with the American people.
It was a very sad thing.
But the attacks on Trump every single day, no matter what he does, are extraordinary.
And you're right, Biden continues to get a pass.
These poll numbers are not getting better.
There was one poll, a Quinnipiac poll, that showed Biden ahead of Trump.
It's the only one Within a series of polls taken in the same time frame.
That's called an outlier.
Sometimes a poll is wrong.
Could have been an error in the sample.
Could have been order bias.
I'd have to examine the whole poll to tell you.
But when there are four or five polls taken within the same time frame, and all of them show approximately the same thing and only one of them shows something different, You have some kind of flaw.
Now, if we start to get a spate of polls that show Biden pulling ahead, that would be different.
But I don't think based on what's going on in the country, that's going to happen.
Again, this performance at the RKO Music Hall juxtaposed with Donald Trump going to the wake of a New York City police officer.
Who was killed by a violent thug who had been arrested 21 times, been put back out on the street by the liberal bail policies of New York State.
Juxtaposing that with Obama, Clinton, and Biden at a high dollar fat cat fundraiser at RKO Music Hall.
did not serve them well either at all.
But what was most interesting about that, Troy, was not what was going on inside, but what was going on outside the Radio City Music Hall.
Those demonstrators, and there were many of them, they weren't Republicans.
They're not conservatives.
They're progressive leftist Democrats who are upset with Genocide Joe.
There's a deep cleavage in their party, and I think it is one of the things that explains these weak polling results that we're looking at.
Well, and on top of that, Roger, I would say, you know, Trump is, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this as well.
I've always thought that Trump is a better outsider candidate.
And the further his pitch as an outsider is, the further outside he appears to be, the better his appeal is.
And I think that in 2016, there was a lot of people who went into the ballot box and they said, you know, a vote for this guy is a vote against the establishment.
And I don't care where he comes from.
I don't care.
Who he is, he's a FU to the system.
And I thought in 2020, it was hard to make that pitch because he was President.
He was President of the United States, so the outsider pitch, while, you know, he still had his support, and I think he had way more support in 2020 than he did in 2016, it was a different kind of support.
And now, in 2024, I see similarities more to 2016 than to 2020.
Interested to hear your thoughts on that.
I do think things are substantially different because now you have the Trump record to compare directly with the Biden record.
People will not remember this, but Biden was supposed to bring civility back to our politics.
Biden made this promise that he could reach across the aisle and work with Republicans.
Instead, he's done nothing but vilify Republicans.
Uh, and the authoritarian nature of his presidency, I think, is abundantly clear.
The idea that the FBI is now visiting people to question them about things they posted on Facebook This is almost unbelievable.
I mean, it's actually hard to believe.
Or that the federal government is pushing Google to give to them a list of email addresses and URLs for those who may have looked at certain things online.
I mean, Big Brother has really been unleashed in a way we've never seen before in this country.
If we have a free, fair, honest election, I still believe that Trump will win.
Now whether or not that happens remains to be seen.
The biggest single problem, I read a great piece on this this weekend, are the people on the voting rolls who don't really exist or have moved or have died or who are not eligible or who registered to vote from a post office box.
Now the courts generally won't allow you to take people off the rolls But they will allow election officials to remove those who have bad addresses.
This week, we're going to have Lou Marin from the Florida Republican Assembly on because he and his colleagues have developed a terrific program to identify bad addresses and then take that list in a cooperative way to election board officials to have those folks removed.
In Florida, which has 67 counties, 62 counties, Have been completely cooperative.
Which ones haven't?
Oh, the largest counties that are dominated by Democrats.
The Republican National Committee is going to need a major effort to get non-voters, people with bad addresses, off the voter rolls.
This is something we're going to talk about here on The Stone Zone later in the week.
Troy, we're just about at the end here, so I'm going to wrap this up.
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