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The Stone Zone with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now, here's your host, Roger Stone!
Welcome.
It's Good Friday.
I'm Roger Stone, and yes, this is The Roger Stone Show.
We've had an incredible week here on the show because my co-host, Troy Smith, the editor-in-chief at Slingshot.News, and I have been on the cutting edge of exposing the nefarious and insidious plot to induce RINO members of the U.S.
House to cede control of the lower house to the Democrats in order to pass legislation Invited by the Supreme Court that would deny Donald Trump the right to be on the ballot and run for president.
To help break this story down, or I should say develop it further, and also bring you more political news, my co-host Troy Smith from Slingshot.News joins us now.
Roger, as always, it's an honor, and this week I feel like we've been really on the cutting edge.
This story has gone just about everywhere, and I think it's for good reason, because we've been fighting this legal battle.
I feel like the American people have almost been right there with President Trump this whole way, because we know what happened in the 2020 election, Roger.
We know that President Trump is probably the most popular political figure that has ever been in American history, and the fact that He is so attacked by the legal system.
The fact that he is so attacked by those within his own party is a well-known fact.
And I think the public's understanding of the idea that the Republican apparatus is constantly undermining President Trump and the story that you and I broke here in the Stone Zone and on Slingshot.News kind of feeds into that.
It validates it in the eyes of many because we have actually uncovered the plot funded by Singer.
As you said yesterday, and I've been using this phrase since, quarterbacked by Kevin McCarthy.
It's the perfect analogy.
He's the one that's quarterbacking this effort in the House of Representatives to get members to retire.
I wanted to get your reaction real quickly here because we had news that the Republicans actually lost a special election in the state of Alabama this week.
And because of that, as we've talked about in this story, the House Republican majority as it stands right now is 218 to 213, with the addition of an additional Democrat in Alabama The Democrats now have 214.
And when Mike Gallagher retires, Roger, it will be 217 to 14.
Your reaction to the Democrats gaining a seat and the danger that could pose in setting this plan that we've uncovered into even further motion?
Yeah, I think we're in very, very precarious times here.
Just so everybody understands what we're talking about.
We think that there is a well-funded, very carefully calibrated strategic effort To shed enough Republican members of the House to turn control of the House over to the Democrats.
But it's worse than that.
The purpose for doing this before November is so that the House can pass legislation sponsored by the odious Congressman Jamie Raskin that would basically declare that because Trump had participated in an insurrection, Despite all the evidence to the contrary, he is thus ineligible to be on the ballot.
The US Supreme Court really invited this.
So the idea here is Democrats would, working with RINOs, would get enough Republicans to leave the House.
To give the Democrats a slim majority, then they would move the Raskin legislation in the House.
The Senate would approve it 51-49, most likely, where they have control.
And it's game over.
So for those who say, well, surely the courts would never allow this.
No, as you know, Troy, the courts have basically invited this in their Colorado decision.
And that is precisely what they are up to.
What I said, of course, was that every special election in May and June has to go the right way.
Those Republican seats or those seats that were previously held by Republicans must be restored to Republicans.
So, for example, Scott Bau, a strong conservative, an experienced conservative with long service in the California State Assembly.
Uh, needs to take the seat of Kevin McCarthy in that upcoming special election that I use that as an example.
Now the seat you refer to in Alabama was expected to go to the Democrats.
It did.
Uh, but we're in very precarious point here.
There's not much room for error and we're perplexed about this fellow, Mike Gallagher.
If Mr. Gallagher chose to leave, why didn't he leave immediately?
Why did he announce his resignation but not actually resign until such time as it's too late under Wisconsin state law to have a special election?
That means his seat will remain vacant until November, but it also means that the number of votes that the Democrats need to control the House is lower, and that's the real game here.
You, Troy, have figured out.
Yesterday we had Gary Frenchie from Next Network News.
Great interview.
I urge you to check that out.
I urge you to check them out.
But he's done an in-depth analysis of who the next Rhino Quizlings may be.
And he pointed out perhaps one of the most obvious ones at all.
Greg Pence, the brother of disgraced former Vice President Mic Peds!
I know you dug into that in a new piece at Slingshot.News.
What did you learn?
Well, Roger, when I was looking into this for the first time, we listed Greg Pence on the list of people who had announced that they're not running for re-election in 2024.
So people need to understand, Greg Pence is not running for re-election already.
He's already decided that he's not going to run in 2024.
Now this puts him in a prime position, Roger, to be the next person to retire from the House GOP.
Now as we were just discussing, Roger, in Alabama the Democrats gained a seat.
So now it's 218 to 214.
And when Mike Gallagher leaves, it will be 217 to 214.
And as we move forward here, if Greg Pence were to retire, there wouldn't be an ability to get a special election.
So it would be another vacancy, and it diminishes it down to 2016 to 2014.
So as we get closer and closer and closer to the election, we need to be looking, as Gary Franchi brilliantly pointed out, at all of these people who have taken donations from Singer and are not running for re-election, because they are the prime suspects for the people that will eventually hand the House GOP to the Democrats.
Now that's the plan, Roger, and I've kind of looked at this pretty closely.
So in preparation for this show, we pulled up a clip of Greg Pence.
Now, people need to keep in mind, former Vice President Mike Pence and former President Donald Trump, they are at odds.
They've been at odds.
Pence actually tried to challenge Trump in the 2024 Republican presidential primary, but he failed.
And because he failed so spectacularly, Roger, I feel like people don't even talk about that.
So here's Greg Pence highlighting his anti-Trump rhetoric, highlighting the fact that he has a bone to pick with Donald Trump because Mike Pence is his brother, and urging Mike Pence to run.
Here's a clip of Greg Pence talking about his brother. - I've been begging him to run since he talked about it last Thanksgiving.
I think my brother brings really about three things to the table.
One, he'd bring back the conversations about Christian, conservative, fiscally responsible Republican Party dialogue principles.
The other is, I think, if my brother won the primary a year from now, He could form a phenomenal cabinet.
He knows the international scene.
He knows the Washington, D.C.
And he knows all the players with the expertise.
And the last is, frankly, I'd love to see him debate President Trump.
I think he would know how to do that, and he's a world-class debater.
Do you think the Republican Party would accept him as a nominee?
I mean, President Trump's supporters view him as a traitor.
Yeah, well, we'll see.
You know, I get a lot of positive, you know, President Trump and which my wife and I Along with the rest of my family.
My son worked for the president for a long time.
I don't have any negatives about the president, but I think looking to the future with my brother, I'm not alone in thinking it's time to take a different path.
It's time to look ahead and not backwards.
You can see much more of our conversation about Mike Pence's potential presidential bid as well as the debt ceiling negotiations coming up this Sunday on All Indiana Politics.
Well, there you have it, Roger.
Your reaction?
Yeah, I think he's quite possibly the next guy to go over the side.
Now, this is not just happening.
This is orchestrated.
As you said earlier, I think in a revenge play, former Speaker Kevin McCarthy is the architect of this move, while Paul Singer, the globalist, vulture, capitalist, and longtime financier of everything anti-Trump Is financing the operation.
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Welcome back, folks.
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Troy, I couldn't imagine any more obvious juxtaposition than yesterday when President Donald Trump went to Long Island to go to the wake of a New York City police officer who was killed in the line I couldn't imagine any more obvious juxtaposition than yesterday when President Donald Trump went to Long Island to go to the wake of a New York City police officer who was killed in
So, So somebody said, title this, they put up a picture of the three presidents and I said, It was Obama, Biden, and Clinton.
Sure, a traitor, a dummy, and a rapist.
That was my caption.
But what was most interesting about this was the enormous anti-Biden demonstration outside In one of the strongest Democratic strongholds in the country.
The Democrats seem to be coming apart at the seams when it comes to Genocide Joe.
And although the Biden administration has basically been supporting both sides in the Middle East, supplying hundreds of billions of dollars for Iran, pretending they don't know that that money makes its way to Hamas and Hezbollah and these other terrorist groups.
At the same time, they seem to be on the verge of a break with our Israeli ally over the aggressiveness of the bombing of Israel.
Seems to me as an incumbent, Joe Biden is in a no-win position.
This, I think, was underlined by the fact in the recent Michigan primary, almost a third of the voters voted for an uncommitted slate of delegates.
These are overwhelmingly Muslim voters who are very influential in terms of their numbers in states like Michigan.
There's a couple other states where they are crucial parts of the Democratic coalition and their unwillingness to support Joe Biden.
So I think this is overall extraordinarily bad news for the Biden camp.
Absolutely, Roger, and we just have a little bit of context that we could throw in for people.
We want to show first the video of the protesters outside of the Radio City Music Hall last night.
It was a tremendous showing of anti-Biden protesters.
So let's roll that video so people can see that.
Biden, Biden, you will be.
Palestine will be free.
Biden, Biden, you will be.
Refugees will return.
Biden, Biden, you will see!
While Australia's almost free!
Now Roger, we also have a clip where some of the protesters actually got inside of the building and while the dummy, the liar, and the rapist were all hanging out with each other on stage, this woman actually got thrown out of the building.
So let's roll that clip as well of the protester inside of Radio Music Hall at the Biden fundraiser last night.
As you said, Roger, the anti-Biden element of the Democrat Party is something that's completely understated.
And that's why I wanted to ask you, Roger, do you think that that has a role in the In the worry that the Democrats have about RFK Jr., especially with his choice of Nicole Shanahan as Vice President, that seems to really have tipped the media scales on RFK Jr.
Troy, I think you've hit it right on the head.
If anything, the unorthodox selection of Nicole Shanahan, a woman who seems to me, other than her vast wealth, has no qualifications whatsoever to be Vice President or theoretically President of the United States was based solely on financial considerations.
Robert Kennedy's campaign urgently needs money because their efforts to get on the ballot as an independent are not going particularly well.
But by choosing a progressive Democrat who's proudly vaxxed and boosted, which means it undercuts the most basic premise, health freedom of His campaign and someone who's given vast sums to Biden and the Democratic Party.
There's some digging to be done there, by the way, because I think we're going to find that she's funded a number of programs that Robert Kennedy himself specifically opposes.
I think this makes him a greater threat to Democrats.
If you were a Trump voter and you may have been thinking potentially of the possibility of voting for Robert Kennedy.
I don't see how you can now do so.
In this selection, Kennedy has demonstrated two things.
One, that he really is a progressive left Democrat when it comes to climate change and abortion on demand.
I don't really trust him on guns.
He says he's changed.
Who knows?
But secondarily, this whole premise is a guy who will not sell out for money, who can't be bought by special interests.
It looks to me like he was just bought.
Now, look, this is a guy who kept a diary on 37 affairs that he had with individual women during the time that he was married.
His wife committed suicide after finding this diary.
I don't make this as an assertion, but I ask it as a question.
Is Nicole Shanahan on that list?
Has anyone looked at the diary to find out?
I think it's a legitimate question.
Again, not making an accusation, but I am asking a question.
So, the Democrats are in high gear.
They're really apoplectic, almost hysterical.
About the candidacy of Robert Kennedy, meaning the national narrative has changed.
The narrative was, oh, Kennedy is going to drain votes from Trump because he's a vaccination skeptic, because he's, he is for closing the border, because he is, uh, because he is, uh, uh, a, uh, an opponent for more funding of the war in Ukraine.
I think all of that is undercut now.
By his underwhelming choice of a running mate.
Well, and it seems, Roger, and I could be wrong about this, because I mean, I do try to watch what he says.
I think he's almost kind of skirted around this entire Israel-Hamas conflict.
I mean, it seems to me he focuses on other things.
He doesn't really focus on that.
It seems to me that his general stance is staying away from conflict, you know, in Ukraine and things like that.
So I think it'd be interesting to see how that block of voters that is very anti-Biden, if they end up becoming Kennedy voters, I think That's an interesting prospect heading into the election.
My question to you, Roger, is now that Kennedy has the billionaire running mate, what do you think of his prospects of getting on the ballot in some of these states?
Because if he did sell out, maybe he has the cash now.
Do you think that the possibility of him getting on the ballot in more states becomes a bigger reality now?
Well, here's the thing, Troy.
It takes more than just money.
Money is essentially used to pay paid petition circulators.
So in various states, and remember, all 50 states are different, there are states that allow someone who's a non-resident of the state but who becomes a notary public or who becomes a justice of the peace if they live in the state.
to legally witness and therefore collect signatures.
But it takes a lot more than that.
It takes an understanding of the process.
I say that because these petitions will be challenged by the Democrats.
They will seek to knock Robert Kennedy off the ballot any place he files, and therefore the petitions have to be legally pristine.
They have to be flawless.
So let me give you an example.
In New York State, If I were registered to vote as Roger J. Stone, Jr., but I signed the petition, Roger Stone, my signature would be invalidated.
Or, if I had earlier signed a petition to put Joe Biden on the ballot, or Donald Trump on the ballot, or Ron DeSantis on the ballot, and I then signed a petition to put Robert Kennedy on the ballot, well, my signature would be invalidated.
In some cases, New York being about the worst, the pagination is important, the format of the petition can be challenged.
Remember, as I've said many times, the rules governing how to get on the ballot are written by Republicans and Democrats working together.
To make sure that they don't face inner, intra-party contests, but also, more importantly, to make sure that they don't face general election competition.
They like the two-party system.
They like the uniparty.
They like things exactly the way they are.
So, money alone is not going to solve Robert Kennedy's problems.
What it does do, of course, if he can get on the ballot, is it increases his ability to advertise, which is particularly important because his campaign is censored.
He has been badly censored because of his position on vaccinations.
It is illegal for the networks, for example, the cable news networks, the three leading broadcast networks, they cannot deny him paid media advertising by law.
And therefore, this is another nightmare for the Democrats.
He seems to believe that there's going to be a debate that includes him.
I personally doubt that.
I don't think that's actually going to happen, but it's certainly not going to happen if he doesn't get on the ballot in enough states to at least theoretically get 270 electoral votes necessary to be elected president.
Well, and Roger, I wasn't alive at the time, so this is just an honest question.
When Ross Perot was in the election and he was a big factor, was he an independent, was he a libertarian?
Can you explain that situation and does it really compare to what's going on right now?
Well, first of all, the state election laws were quite different.
They changed a lot of them post-Perot because of the chaos he brought to the system.
First of all, you have to have the same uniform running mate in every state.
So let's go back earlier to the candidacy of George Wallace, the former governor of Alabama in 1968.
He got on the ballot in virtually every state, but in some states he had a different vice presidential running mate than he had in other states.
In some places he formed a party because access under a new party was Easier than access under an independent.
There's a great plus if you're going to be a minor party candidate to being affiliated with either the Libertarian or say the Green Party because, well, first of all, they already have party structures in every state.
They already have volunteers.
They already have people, people with experience in getting on the ballot.
2012, the Libertarian Party candidacy of Governor Gary Johnson.
got on the ballot in 48 states.
I believe that they duplicated that again in 2016.
The Green Party candidacy of Jill Stein got on the ballot in more than enough states.
I think it was 46, perhaps 48 in the last election, enough to theoretically at least win 270 electoral votes.
But Robert Kennedy, starting as an independent, has no structure in the country, particularly Probably has a lot of volunteers, but they're not experienced volunteers.
His campaign manager is a former CIA operative.
I'm not sure what she knows about running a campaign for president.
So we've talked about on this show, his campaign leaks like a sieve.
So he was trying to build a huge amount of momentum behind this announcement.
I should say suspense.
He wanted there to be an air of suspense.
He floated names of people he was never really considering.
Governor Jesse Ventura, Tulsi Gabbard, others.
I don't think any of those people were ever seriously considered.
And if they were, there was no circumstance under which they were going to be his running mate.
But his campaign purposely leaked those names, but then 10 days ago, I should say 10 days before his announcement in Oakland, it leaked from someone inside the Kennedy campaign who wasn't happy with this choice.
And that's because the choice underlines one of the central messages of Robert Kennedy's campaign, which is he can't be bought.
Well, I would say he just was bought.
He just took a running mate who fundamentally disagrees with him on virtually every major issue.
Now for her, I guess it's a vanity play of some kind, but again, it's way too early to assume that he's going to be on the ballot in enough states to matter.
It is interesting that initially the polling seemed to indicate that he took disproportionately from Trump, but now the polling on a state-by-state basis seems to indicate that he takes disproportionately from Biden or whoever the Democrats ultimately nominate.
Well, and Roger, you highlighted something earlier in the show that we have some clips I want to run on here because, you know, you're right.
President Biden and former President Obama and former President Clinton were at the Radio City Music Hall, making a spectacle of themselves.
And we didn't pull those clips because I don't want to subject you guys, the audience, to that.
Because it was some of the most self-patting-on-the-back, self-aggrandizing BS that I've ever seen.
You're looking at three individuals that destroyed this country.
They absolutely destroyed this country.
Bill Clinton is more responsible for the industry leaving this country than just about anybody.
And for Barack Obama to be there, as well as Biden.
We know that Biden's not in control, so why even promote it?
And while that's going on, Roger, you made the contrast.
President Trump was attending the wake of slain NYPD officer Jonathan Dillard, who was killed on Monday.
During a routine traffic stop, shot in the stomach, and left behind a beautiful wife and a one-year-old son.
And President Trump went to the wake yesterday.
It was highly publicized.
And when he came out of the wake, he spoke to the media.
Now, when he delivered this address, Roger, I've actually got responses because we put it up on Slingshot.News of police officers and their families saying, thank you, President Trump, for saying what you said.
It means so much to us and our community during this time.
And as we know, law enforcement as a whole is almost like a band of brothers.
So let's roll the clip of President Trump outside of the wake, giving some unbelievably powerful words.
Actually, Troy, we have to go to a quick commercial break and we'll run that video when we come back.
We'll be right back.
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Welcome back folks.
If you're just tuning in, This is the Stone Zone, and I'm here with my co-host, Troy Smith.
Troy had just introduced a video, an interesting juxtaposition yesterday.
Donald Trump visiting Long Island to attend the wake of a New York City police officer killed in the line of duty while Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, and Joe Biden were at a high-dollar fundraiser.
At RKO Music Hall.
Troy, it's kind of strange that none of the former presidents or the current president went and paid their respects to this valiant police officer's family.
Let's roll that clip.
Well thank you very much everybody.
I want to thank Bruce and all of the people that have worked so hard to make this area beautiful and safe and this is what happened is such a sad Sad event.
Such a horrible thing.
And it's happening all too often.
And we're just not going to let it happen.
We just can't.
21 times arrested, this thug.
And the person in the car with him was arrested many times.
And they don't learn because they don't respect.
They're not given the respect.
The police are the greatest people we have.
There's nothing and there's nobody like them.
And this should never happen.
I just visited.
With a very beautiful wife that now doesn't have her husband.
Stephanie was just incredible.
Their child, brand new, beautiful baby.
Sitting there, innocent as can be.
Doesn't know how his life has been changed.
But the Diller family will, you'll never be the same.
You can never be the same.
And we have to stop it.
We have to stop it.
We have to get back to law and order.
We have to do A lot of things differently because this is not working.
This is happening too often.
It's an honor to be here.
And again, I want to just thank all of you folks for allowing this.
And Bruce, thank you.
Bruce has been a friend of mine for a long time.
He's done an incredible job out here.
But this is such a sad occasion.
The only thing we can say is maybe something is going to be learned.
We've got to toughen it up.
We've got to strengthen it up.
This should never be allowed.
Things like this shouldn't take place and to take place so often.
So thank you all for being here.
It's an honor and it's an honor for me to be here.
This is a great family, the Diller family.
I met the friends and I met every one of them inside.
And these are just incredible people that are just devastated.
They're devastated.
They've got a tough road.
It's going to be a very tough road.
So thank you very much, everybody.
Appreciate it.
All right.
Well, as you can see, Roger, your reaction to that and President Trump, you know, that seemed to me like a leader and that seemed like somebody that we need in this country right now.
Your thoughts?
Well, you know, as you know, the president is likely now to be tied up in a criminal trial.
It begins April 15th.
Which is why I think he very wisely made this trip, not just out of respect to the family but also to make a larger point to the American people that he stands with law enforcement, that he stands against the lawlessness of the woke mob.
I expect that during his trial, which is really designed to pin him down physically in a courtroom so he can't be out campaigning, that he is going to make these forays probably fairly close to New York, but he's going to do a bunch of things like this that are not only appropriate, but also symbolic, because they're limiting his ability to campaign.
He's not going to be able to go out.
And have rallies while he's on trial.
But I do think that he can make trips like this.
And I've seen what happens when the president comes to a community.
It's very different than when Joe Biden shows up.
Joe Biden goes to a union hall in Philadelphia, one of the absolute democratic strongholds.
They have trouble getting 200 people there.
Nobody likes Joe Biden.
Nobody.
Donald Trump comes to a small town and it's chaos.
I mean, I remember him visiting one town, it was in a southern state, where the people who showed up were approximately three times the population of the town.
45,000 people showed up.
Trump is a phenomena unto himself.
There's never been anyone like him in American politics.
There never will be again.
Just take the strength of his endorsement, for example.
Now, look, I work for Ronald Reagan.
Reagan and Nixon and Bush, none of these presidents ever got into intra-party contests.
It just traditionally wasn't done.
Not Donald Trump.
He wades into primaries, and it is very hard to find an example where a candidate that he endorsed in the primary lost the primary.
Ron DeSantis is the greatest example of this.
Usually extraordinarily weak candidates who are very far behind are catapulted to victory solely on the basis of a Trump social media posting and an endorsement.
In 45 years in American politics, I've never seen that before.
Support is, generally speaking, not transferable.
Not transferable.
This is the only example of it that I've ever seen is the incredible strength of Donald Trump at the grassroots of the Republican Party, not at the leadership of the party.
At the leadership party, you still have many who say they're pro-Trump or try to sound pro-Trump, but frankly, they were involved in the efforts to remove him and they're not loyal to him today, but at the grassroots of the party.
The people in the party.
Trump has strength like I have never seen by any previous president or any other previous political figure for that matter.
Well, and Roger, I wanted to ask you quickly about the, because we don't want to fixate on this the whole time, but the contrast between Trump's visit to this wake and the fundraiser I think is a tremendous thing for the American people to understand.
And my question to you is, how do you see Barack Obama and Bill Clinton campaigning with Joe Biden.
To me, it looks like almost the Democrats, without saying it outright, are pitching the idea that the Democrat complex, whether that's Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, that they are running the show under Joe Biden.
Is that not the message that this campaign fundraiser sent to the American people, Roger?
Well, one message it definitely sent is that Barack Obama's plan to get Joe Biden to take a dive isn't going very well.
There were reports that Barack Obama visited the White House several weeks ago to tell Joe that his reelection campaign was in deep trouble.
People like James Carville, who Well, I don't particularly care for his style.
He does know how to read a poll, pointed out that Biden's polling is abysmal.
I mean, truly abysmal.
The Democrats are in high gear regarding their lawfare efforts because they realize that if we have a free Fair, honest, transparent election.
Joe Biden is going to lose.
Now, what that yesterday told me was that Obama's efforts to get Joe to step aside voluntarily aren't going very well.
And Bill Clinton, he was probably just there for the chicks.
Who knows?
Well, as we know, for any women, many women throughout history have been the victims of Bill Clinton.
And it's interesting, Roger, you know, also attending that ceremony last night was the singer Lizzo.
Now, I don't know if you've ever heard of Lizzo, Roger, but you've probably seen the memes at least.
And I think it's interesting, you know, here's a woman that's accused of sexual assault and assaulting the people that she works with.
And yet, she's allowed to be at a Democratic fundraiser.
And, you know, I wanted to ask your opinion also, and it kind of segues into this next topic, Roger, the firing of Ronna McDaniel at NBC.
You know, I find it incredibly interesting that Ronna McDaniel, who was an opponent of Trump within the RNC, just by the mere fact that she was part of the RNC, That makes her untouchable, and NBC distanced themselves after two days.
Yet, they have people, I mean, on NBC, they have Psaki, they have other people that have worked for the Biden administration.
And on, I mean, ABC's the worst with this, Rogers.
You know they have George Stephanopoulos, who was, I mean, a Clinton operative.
How can we, you know, this idea that, oh, somebody's political, the double standard there is for people like Lizzo, for people like Jen Psaki, for any of these individuals on the left, they can literally get away with anything they want because they say the talking points.
Is that how you see it, Roger?
Uh, that's a pretty good, uh, summary here.
Look, if you notice Chuck Todd of all people.
Now, first of all, Chuck Todd is talentless.
The man has no talent.
He is, he's incredibly open in his partisanship.
No, he's not some great journalist, but his job is to be objective, theoretically, right?
So, I'm not a big fan of Ronna Romney McDaniel, but he has an absolute on-air meltdown about the fact that she's been hired.
Now, when MSNBC hired Jen Psaki, who came right out of the Biden White House and is therefore just as partisan, let's say, as Ronna McDaniel's, where was Chuck Todd?
How come Chuck Todd had no objection to that?
Chuck Todd seems to have lost sight of the fact that his predecessor, Tim Russert, who's actually a friend of mine, had come out of the office of Governor Mario Cuomo and before that had worked for Democrat U.S.
Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan.
So the left thinks it's fine to come out of Democratic politics directly into being a journalist.
But it's not OK to be a Republican, at least in this case, a putative Republican, perhaps a rhino, and go to MSNBC.
The worst part of this was Ron Romney's groveling, saying, oh, well, you know, I never really liked Trump and I never really thought the election was stolen.
And I just said that stuff because I was the head of the party.
That was the most disgusting part of all, in all honesty.
I gather she didn't last very long at MSNBC.
Look, I want to categorically deny that MSNBC has offered me a gig as an anchor.
It is untrue and a complete falsehood.
But while we're at it, Troy, let me pull this up if I may.
There were a spate of stories last week that said that Paul Manafort, Corey Lewandowski, and Roger Stone were going to be joining Trump's campaign.
Here's what I said to The Hill, published this today.
This is written by a reporter who writes, this week I asked Stone about his status with Team Trump.
He replied, I have and I seek no formal or informal role in the presidential campaign.
I remain a strong supporter of the president and I speak to him as well as members of his campaign team regarding political matters occasionally.
Of course, those conversations remain confidential.
Goes on to say, Stone said that his various radio shows, where he promotes Trump, and his daily show, that would be this one, keep him more than busy.
Then he added, if you look at every one of these stories, my alleged campaign involvement is simply based on the fact that I've been seen at Mar-a-Lago recently.
What a crock of...
Truthfully, Trump and Stone will always have each other's backs, she writes, the source of Stone's influence, which she intentionally underplays, despite having Trump on speed dial.
Well, at least she carried my entire quote.
But there are numerous stories that say I'm joining the Trump campaign.
I've not been asked to join the Trump campaign.
I haven't asked to join the Trump campaign.
I would do whatever I was asked, but I don't anticipate being asked.
I've been in 13 presidential campaigns.
I have no need to do another one.
I think I am effective as an advocate for Trump on this show and on my WABC radio show.
I don't claim to be a journalist.
I claim to be an opinion journalist or work in opinion journalism.
That's where you identify yourself right up front as a partisan.
I'm not trying to be objective.
I'm giving you my political point of view.
That's the whole point of what we do here on The Stone Zone.
Absolutely Roger, and I think it's important that you clear that up because we I had sent you that and we had talked about that a little bit That you know these they fabricate things and as you pointed out George Stephanopoulos has been doing this for years There's a he's been doing it for so long Roger that there's people like me.
I was I was born just eight days before Or well actually no I was born if you're if you would be 2001 and Uh, so I was born about a year before, uh, George W. Bush took office.
So, I didn't know, I never knew that George Stephanopoulos worked for Clinton until, um, years later, until I became politically involved.
But as a kid watching the news, this is a guy that's put in front of you and they tell you, hey, this is objective news.
And they teach you that in the universities.
They teach you that in the schools.
They teach you that your whole life.
And the idea that that news that people think is objective, unbiased, is actually coming from literal Democrat operatives is pretty concerning.
And I think also, Ronna McDaniel, you're right, the groveling, the going back on everything.
And her situation highlights to me something that I've believed for a long time.
And that is you can fake it.
You can act like you can still be part of their establishment club, that you will be accepted in the establishment political classes.
But once you in any way go against the Democrat media complex, whether that's in your work like Ronna McDaniel did in Symbol, I guess.
She didn't really act towards going after the Democrat media complex or politically.
damaging them, even though that was her job, she didn't do it effectively.
But even if you're a milquetoast Republican who basically goes back on everything, she gave Chuck Todd everything he wanted in that interview, saying she didn't support Trump, like you said, groveling, she still got fired.
And the point is that you can either stand up for what is right or you can get screwed over.
And that's what happens.
In my view, anybody that isn't fully committed to the truth, anybody that isn't fully committed to what they believe in, then you're totally screwed, especially in the face of the Democrat media complex.
Because when it comes to their people, Roger, they're in lockstep.
They are in total lockstep, whether it comes to, like we said, George Stephanopoulos, Jen Psaki, any of these people, they defend them to the death.
And they will actually say with a straight face, no, I love their journalism, they're so great, knowing that it's biased, but also knowing that there's a segment of the population that won't pay attention to the fact We're gonna take a quick commercial break and we'll be right back with The Stone Zone.
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and White House, and that millions of people will be influenced by this fake, unbiased reporting that we see in ABC, NBC, and so many others.
All right, we're going to take a quick commercial break, and we'll be right back with The Stone Zone.
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We have about three more minutes.
Let's wrap this up.
You have the final say.
Well, Roger, just before we get out of here, there's a really short clip we want to play of Larry David, the creator of Curb Your Enthusiasm, having a meltdown about former President Donald Trump.
Let's roll that clip now.
I can't go a day without thinking about what he's done.
To this country because he's such a little baby.
That he's thrown 250 years of democracy out the window by not accepting the results of it.
I mean, it's it's so crazy.
He's such a sociopath.
He's so insane.
He just couldn't admit to losing.
And we know he lost.
He knows he lost.
And look how he he's fooled everybody.
He's convinced all these people that he didn't lose.
It's he's such a sick man.
He's so sick.
Anyway, no, it hasn't impacted me at all.
Your thoughts, Roger?
What an elitist.
What he's done for the country.
What do you think he's talking about?
Could it be the most robust economy in our history?
Or maybe it was the lowest levels of unemployment among African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans that Larry didn't like.
Or maybe it was the record low inflation or the record low gasoline prices.
Or maybe it was the criminal justice reform in which people caught with small amounts of drugs for personal use who had no prior criminal record were not locked in prison for the I mean, what part of the Trump legacy is it that Larry objects to?
Does this guy ever get out of Hollywood?
I mean, does he think he really knows any real people?
I kind of doubt it.
I think he's funny, but I also think he's a jerk.
Well, it's funny for me just to, you know, I think for a lot of people out there to watch the total meltdown.
And, you know, if you need any motivation to vote for Trump in 2024, I know there's going to be a lot of people going to the ballot box just to see, Roger, my goal, I want to see Jen Psaki cry on election night.
And I think a lot of people do want to see Van Jones have another freak out.
We want to see Rachel Maddow freak out.
We want to see everybody freak out.
And that, I think, Is motivation for millions of people to go to the ballot box, I think.
All right.
I think we have to wrap it up here for the day.
Folks, please have a blessed, joyous, and restful Easter.
God bless you.
He has risen.
We'll see you Monday on The Stone Zone.
A man who's gone through hell.
But he's kept going, and he's smart, and he's strong, and people love him.
Not everybody, but people love him and respect him.
Roger Stone.
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