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Trump Notches Historic Michigan Primary Victory! When Will Nikki Haley Fold? The StoneZONE
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The Stone Zone with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now, here's your host, Roger Stone!
Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Troy Smith, and I will be filling in today for the legendary Roger Stone.
You can catch us here every single day of the week, Monday through Friday, at 8 p.m.
on The Stone Zone and some other channels.
We also broadcast this on Twitter.
But today, I'm honored to have the slot here because we are talking about another historic victory for former President Donald Trump in Michigan last night.
We're going to put up the results here of the Republican primary.
Donald Trump taking over three-quarters of a million votes, while Nikki Haley failing to reach the 300,000 mark and also failing to achieve 30% of the vote.
Now, we talked about this in detail yesterday, talking about the idea that South Carolina and New Hampshire, who have open primaries and who the Haley campaign specifically targeted Democrat voters in these states, To get them to vote for Nikki Haley in order to boost her numbers and to make her look like she was more of a formidable candidate than she really is.
She failed last night.
And as we see in those results, we could put those up just one more time, the uncommitted vote was 33,373.
So we're talking about a serious portion of Nikki Haley's votes.
And if you compare that to Trump's really, you know, You're talking about a very small percentage, and I think it's important to point out that in Michigan you don't have the open primaries that you do in a lot of other places.
So while everybody's kind of focusing, of course, Nikki Haley is the darling of the mainstream media.
And of course, like we talked about yesterday as well, they want to highlight the Haley Trump race and make it more than it really is because they want to distract you from President Joe Biden.
They don't want you to see him eating an ice cream cone talking about Israel and Hamas and kind of mumbling to himself looking confused.
They don't want you to see the reality there.
They want to obfuscate that and instead cover Trump Haley as if there's really a chance that she could possibly beat Donald Trump.
And I think if there is anything that indicates this better than anything, it was her results in the Nevada Republican primary.
For those that don't remember, the Nevada Republican primary meant absolutely nothing.
There were no delegates assigned to it, yet the Haley campaign decided that they were going to put their assets into that primary instead of doing the Nevada caucus, which Trump focused on.
Trump obviously swept the delegates at the Nevada caucus because he had no competition, really, other than Ryan Binkley, who has actually dropped out and endorsed Trump now.
But in that primary, Nikki Haley was destroyed By a similar thing that we just saw with uncommitted voters, although it was called a no option.
So there was an option on the ballot where you could vote for no candidate, no candidate option, and more people chose that by two to one margin than vote for Nikki Haley.
That shows that when there's not Democrat voters, there's no Democrat advertising going out to juice Nikki Haley, MSNBC basically running advertising for her 24-7, a lot of other news outlets running ads for her basically 24-7 campaign ads.
The Biden White House putting out her campaign ads.
When that all goes away and Nikki Haley is left to actual Republican voters, she loses.
And she doesn't just lose, she gets obliterated by even no option.
Even no option beats her.
But I would like to put up, because this was really lost on many people, and it wasn't really talked about in the mainstream media.
We tried to talk about it at Slingshot News.
Slingshot.News is where you can find my work as of right now.
But we're going to put up the the Democrat results here, and Joe Biden actually had a very similar situation to what we saw in Nevada for Nikki Haley, where 100,000 people in a protest vote that basically centered around Biden's handling of the Middle East and the Israel-Gaza conflict, 100,000 people in a protest vote that basically centered around Biden's handling of the Middle East and the Israel-Gaza conflict, 100,000 people
Now, I understand for an incumbent, that's a lot, but when you're talking about 13% of the vote going to somebody who's uncommitted, it shows that the predictions of Roger Stone, the predictions of Joel Gilbert, the predictions from so many others that it won't be Joe Biden that's the predictions from so many others that it won't be Joe Biden that's going to be the nominee in 2024, are looking They are looking like they're closer to the truth every single day.
And this leads me to my next point here, ladies and gentlemen, when we're talking about the 2024 election and the Democrat primary process, because The Democrats have a real problem.
And we're going to put up a clip that I found, or a screenshot, I'm sorry, that I found while I was doing research on Biden's approval rating.
And what you need to know, basically, is that Biden's approval rating right now stands at 38%.
It's an all-time low.
The only person that's ever had an approval rating lower than that is Jimmy Carter.
But when you're looking at these numbers, these are numbers from November of 2023.
to January of 2024.
And it tells us the percentage of what's dropping in Biden's approval rating amongst Democrats, Republicans, Independents.
And it's very important because as you see in the categories of Ukraine, Biden has shed 6% support from Democrats in the last five months.
When it comes to immigration, Biden has shed 7% of Democrat support.
And when it comes to the Middle East, the worst issue that Biden faces amongst his own voters, he's shed 9% of Democrat support.
For the way he's handled the situation in the Middle East.
Now, I would, first off, I would say, if you're a Democrat, and you didn't lose faith in his handling of the Middle East with the Afghanistan withdrawal, then I'm not sure, you know, what could possibly shake your faith in the Democrat Party.
I mean, we had 13 U.S.
service members killed in a bombing, along with, what, 171 or 200-something civilians?
If that didn't tell you that the whole Middle East situation under Biden was going to be out of control, I don't know what would.
And truth be told, I think there's a lot of issues with the way the Democrats are handling this situation.
The Democrats, you have to look at it like this.
The Republicans go for broad appeal.
They really do.
The Republicans go for things that they think everybody loves, whether it's taxes or, you know, monogamy or, you know, marriage, nuclear family, you know, that kind of classic conservative, you know, the values that we talk about.
And the Democrats are much more adept at getting people to pay attention to what they're talking about.
And that's evident because if you look at states like Maryland, where I come from, the Democrats have such a stranglehold on literally everything, whether it's education, whether it's the courts, the governor's mansion, the state house, the state senate, you know, I mean, you're talking about total domination.
And on a federal level, and now a lot of this is due to the corruption within the RNC, which is being fixed.
I mean, Ronald McDaniel is stepping down.
We're getting change there.
But the Democrats are much, much better at fundraising and kind of bringing people into their party and having an apparatus politically that works.
And they do this Through a couple different venues.
One is they are always focused on local politics, and I think this is a problem for Republicans across the country as we're going into the election here.
I see people that are running for Congress in Florida or Maryland, and they're talking about federal issues.
And I think federal issues are important.
Look, you're going to Congress, you're going to be obviously dealing with federal issues, but that's not how the Democrats do it.
They deal on a local basis.
And so, you know, for example, I know somebody who was affected, lost their job when I lived in Maryland.
They'd had for 30 years.
And this person lived in my district, which happened to be the district of KwaZulu-Fume.
The Congressman.
And he's a Democrat.
My friend sent a letter to the unemployment office and couldn't get his unemployment.
I mean, he was entitled to it, paid his taxes and everything.
Couldn't get anything from Governor Larry Hogan, the Republican at the time.
This was before I was politically involved, so I had never even talked about Larry Hogan.
I'm just talking about a basis as a citizen who was trying to get something done.
We didn't see any movement For my friend, until he reached out to Kwesi Mfume's office, they immediately called, they immediately got the situation handled, and that's because Kwesi Mfume wasn't out there talking about federal issues.
He was talking about local issues, and you can call that whatever you want, But that's what matters to people and especially voters.
So the Republicans have it wrong in that they're constantly focused on federal issues.
And while those are important, you have to start locally.
And the Democrats have grown their political machine from the local level.
That's why they have education.
That's why they have the courts.
That's why they have everything walled off.
Because from beginning to end of child's life, If you don't oversee them, basically, and watch over the ideals they're being talked to about and taught in schools, then they're going to be part of the Democrat machine.
That's how pervasive their political strategy has been.
So they do it through localization of politics, which I think the Republicans could easily do.
And then they also do it through identity politics.
Now, when the Republicans have a group, say, like a women's club or a women's federation meeting, and there's these all over the I mean, all over the country.
Every state has them, every county has them, Republican clubs, and they're called Republican clubs.
I mean, you can literally look it up because it's called a Republican club.
And while the Democrats have Democrat clubs, there are a lot of things that go on on the local level.
I'm talking about events for LGBTQ, events for pro-abortion, events for pro-immigration, events for pro-this, pro-that.
They take an event that really has nothing to do with politics and they use it to get people into politics and say, Hey, you're LGBTQ.
You don't want to be killed.
You got to vote for the Democrats.
Now, obviously that's a lie.
And obviously that's like totally out there, but that's what they do.
That's the tactic they use.
If you want to, if you, if you don't want a four year old kid or a 14 year old kid who was raped to be forced to have her child, then you have to vote for the Democrats.
Or look at the IVF situation.
President Trump comes out in full support of IVF, encourages the Alabama legislator to protect IVF, and the Democrats say, well, it's because of Roe v. Wade.
You know, it's because of the Supreme Court justices, it's because of Trump.
That's not the case.
And may I add, the Supreme Court, it's not supposed to be like Trump sitting there over the Supreme Court dictating what they say.
He's supposed to put forth as a nominee the person that he believes best suited to do the job, and then they're there for life.
On their own accord, he doesn't have any control over what they say.
I mean, past the approval process, he doesn't control them.
And neither do the, I mean, in concept, that's how things are supposed to work.
But the media pointing that out, I mean, like, oh, Trump's judges.
No, it just shows they have Obama judges.
They have Biden judges.
We don't have those people because when the conservatives put up people for benches, they try to do it by the letter of the law.
Like I said, they're not Merrick Garland beholden to the Obama administration.
They're Justice Kavanaugh, who, quite frankly, votes a lot of different ways.
It's hard for me to get a read on how he's going to vote.
Cavanaugh's tough.
Gorsuch is pretty consistent.
Amy Coney Barrett's a wild card.
You don't know where she's gonna vote.
So, he didn't pick these people based on some agenda.
He didn't pick these people based on some political motive.
He picked them because he thought that they were the best constitutional minds to put on the bench.
You can argue their decisions, but you can't sit there and claim that, I mean, especially Especially with the Texas Razor Wire or any other number of things that that Coney Barrett has sided with the liberal justices on.
It shows that these weren't politically motivated choices.
They weren't.
And yet the Democrats, when they put somebody on there, you best believe that they're going to be politically motivated.
You know, and not to mention the fact that they don't even play by the rules anyway.
This last woman they put on there, Contagi Brown-Jackson, the guy hadn't even left The prior justice had not left his position.
You can't nominate somebody for a position that's going to be open in the future.
You can't do that.
It's never been done before.
It's completely illegal.
And nobody even asked any questions about it.
The Democrat House and Senate just passed it and everyone just said, okay, well.
And it's because Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell were on guard at that point and nobody was paying attention.
But how do you have a justice placed into a Supreme Court position before the guy even dies?
If that's the case, then I personally would like to nominate the, I don't know, 110th Supreme Court justice right now that's coming out of the womb.
Let's get newborn babies, let's get them in Congress, let's nominate them for the Supreme Court so we can just kind of nominate people ahead of when they're supposed to.
You know, why not when you have a Republican House, nominate 15 justices and then when a justice dies or leaves the court, you can just put one in.
Oh, he's already approved.
I mean, that's literally what they did and nobody even talks about it.
So, you know, folks, it's just there's so much to talk about as far as The Supreme Court and all that, but I think the important point of this entire thing is that Biden's approval rating is slipping.
It's slipping big time and it's slipping in key areas that are the news are really focused on because it's what people need to hear.
And I, you know, I have to think that that is coordination because we know how much these mainstream media outlets coordinate with each other.
We know how much they coordinate with the Democratic Party to push narratives and the idea that all of a sudden, You know, I got canceled for covering Joe Biden and showing him kind of doddering around and not being able to speak.
I got canceled off MSN and Microsoft for that.
Now NBC does it and they're fine and ABC does it.
You can't tell me that that's not a coordinated effort and that's not something that was planned prior.
I think it highlights the fact that the Democrats know they put this guy up for election.
It's going to be a bloodbath.
And, you know, local level, whatever happens, happens.
I can see a situation where the Democrats take back the House and strengthen in the Senate and lose the presidency.
And I think it's more of a referendum on Biden than anybody.
And ultimately, you know, that may be what the establishment wants.
You know, obviously Trump throws a monkey wrench in the whole thing.
They obviously don't want him.
But maybe the establishment wants to kind of pin their problems on Biden.
And who better?
Somebody who doesn't even know where they are.
You know, and you look at the her investigation, they basically said, I mean, not basically, they said that they weren't going to prosecute him because he was an old man that doesn't even know what's going on.
So how are we, you know?
Roger makes a good point.
I think I've said it myself.
If he's not capable of being prosecuted because of his mental problems, then why in the hell has he got his finger on the nuclear buttons?
Why is he in the Oval Office?
And more importantly, who's doing the presidential duties?
I mean, is it Kamala Harris?
Is it his chief of staff?
I mean, who knows who the hell it is?
We don't know.
We don't know.
And that's a major problem.
We have a lot more stuff we want to get to, folks, but as Roger always says, we've got to keep the lights on.
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That plays into this, folks, and we're going to get back to that in just a second.
But I wanted to take time today on the Stone Zone because we do have we do have so much going on in the country and so much politically that matters.
But I think I wanted to start with something that has been on my mind quite a bit.
And I think it's that If you notice, some of the times that brought Americans together, more than anything, are some of our worst times.
Whether it be 9-11, or even the crash of 2008, I remember people were so helpful to each other, and I remember seeing pictures of this from the past when I was in school, when you would see people during the Great Depression finding ways to support each other and to help each other.
It's in those times that you see the least amount of political discourse and fighting, political violence.
You don't see political violence when things are bad.
And I'm not talking about grand, chaotic or anarchist stuff.
I'm talking about the abortion people or the pro or anti.
Abortion people or, you know, election stuff or anything like that.
Those are usually the products of good times, which is interesting.
But my point is, without an economy that allows people to feed themselves, that allows people to clothe themselves, that allows people to have homes, that allows people leisure, that allows people to live decent, comfortable lives, Without that, things get really bad.
And the reason that America has kind of been able to be that nice country throughout is that you have these big businesses, right?
And all these people work for these big businesses and they always are closing and opening and closing and opening and closing.
So there's always this turnover turmoil.
And when we have downturn, economic downturn, those things get worse.
But because America is a free country, And there's always people who have their own businesses.
There's always people that have their own resources.
We can kind of come together.
But as the downturn gets worse and worse and worse, there's less of those people.
And they're less willing to help because they have less resources.
And as things get worse and worse and worse, There's no telling what kind of... That nice thing that we saw during the depression, or the nice thing that we saw after 9-11, it wouldn't be so nice if everybody was flat broke.
The point is, we need money.
The government needs income streams that don't come directly from our pocket, because that's where all the money comes from right now.
Now, President Trump did something that was kind of revolutionary, and it's been adapted by many African and other nations since then.
Is the practice of exporting oil with tremendous tariffs and things like that to build government revenue that isn't taxed.
It's not raised through taxation.
Such a huge revolutionary concept.
And all of a sudden, the government, in order to grow its scope and its ability to build infrastructure in some of these nations in Africa, they don't even have electricity.
So the government is able to build certain things and do certain things without having to take it from the people.
And that's a very important thing.
And it's why energy is so important.
And it's why somebody like Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who I have tremendous respect for, I think he's a brilliant man.
I've read his books.
I think he's fantastic.
I would never vote for him for any elective office because of his policy on fracking and his policy on energy.
Because I think energy is the most important thing in this country.
You can't imagine what would happen to this country if you went to turn on the light switch and it didn't turn on and it wasn't just a couple hours or a couple days or a couple weeks.
It was forever.
If we don't have the ability to have electricity, we will descend into absolute anarchy in this country and it'll be lawless chaos everywhere.
Under Joe Biden's policies, under Joe Biden's green policies, that's becoming more and more of a possibility because more and more people are being incentivized to get off of fossil fuels.
Fossil fuels, we'll talk about more of that in a minute.
But more people are being enticed and especially governments are being enticed to put more of their electric capacity into green energy.
And green energy, as we saw in Texas, where I don't know if people remember this in 2021, Texas froze over and Texas actually had a water heater shortage that affected the entire United States.
You cannot get a water heater in the United States for, I don't know, 10 months, six months, 10 months, somewhere in there, because every water heater available was being shipped to Texas because they had millions and millions of people bust their water heaters.
And I know people in Texas that had this happen to them.
And that happened because the heat was shut off because too much of the grid was relying on wind and solar energy, which during the freeze, the turbines froze and the solar panels froze over.
So because Texas counted on green energy, not only did the lights not come on, but everyone's water heater busted.
And it was only because the weather relented that they didn't have this problem.
Uh, forever.
So, we are really dangerously close to a situation where people don't have access to electricity.
And it's because of green energy.
And it's important to remember that while all the politics stuff can shift around, if the lights don't come on, we're talking about a different situation.
And it also shows that in those moments, when those lights don't come on, people will do anything.
Even turn to their enemy.
Which brings me to Europe.
Joe Biden issued an executive order, and we can look this up, you can look this up earlier this year, where he banned the exports of liquid natural gas.
Liquid natural gas is one of our most valuable exports.
It's also the primary energy source used by European countries.
If you remember correctly, President Trump, while he was president, blocked the Nord Stream pipeline.
This pipeline would have brought fossil fuels from Russia into Europe.
And Trump said, Russia is your enemy.
He said this to the European leaders.
He said, Russia is your enemy.
Why am I going to use U.S.
taxpayer dollars to defend Europe from Russia while you're building a pipeline so that they can have a monopolistic control of your energy?
Why on earth would I allow American military men and women to put themselves in harm's way to protect you from people that you're doing business with?
And rightfully so, that pipeline was stopped.
As soon as Biden came into office, that pipeline was resumed.
And it was eventually blown up, which, you know, there's some conflicting reports on that.
Putin says it was the CIA.
CIA says it was Putin.
I don't know who you trust more.
It's up to you.
But the point being that Biden allowed that pipeline to be built.
He allowed Russia to pump energy into Europe, giving them total control.
And ultimately, whoever controls the ability of that light switch to turn on and off is the one that controls basically everything.
Because without the electricity, without the ability to have electricity, there's no money, there's no navigations, there's not really any... the ATMs don't work, you don't have... people would fall apart in days.
So Russia Under the Biden administration has been given total monopolistic control over European energy.
Total control.
President Biden is overseeing Russia being more powerful than ever before.
Not only that, but we talk about the axis of evil, the new axis of evil, which includes Russia, Iran, China.
Under President Biden's administration, and with his tutelage at the UN, you know, such a great leader, they lifted sanctions on Iran.
And Iran is now using their militias to go into Iraq and other countries, funnel oil and other natural resources into Iran, and then ship them to places like China.
Iran is now the number one exporter of oil to China.
Soon, they're going to be up there with natural gas as well.
And it's important to point that out, because as Biden continues to tell us that Trump is a Russian collusion, and we talk about the whole Robert Mueller report, and we talk about Oh, you know, Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Nobody has made Russia stronger than the Biden administration over the last several years.
And with the Putin-Tucker Carlson interview that's just aired recently, You know, every leftist cable news network is having a ball with that, saying, oh, look, this is Trump's guy.
He's he's he's cuddling up to Putin.
And I even saw an interview where they had Zelensky in some bombed out area, which we don't even know is real or not.
I mean, the guy's been known to do interviews with green screens around him.
You know, as far as the Tucker Carlson, Putin interview goes, the mainstream media is spinning that as saying, oh, well, you know, Trump is obviously allied with Putin.
And if you watch Jen Psaki, she actually says that Trump is Putin's apprentice.
Now, I want you to watch this video because this dispels Their entire narrative.
Their entire narrative that Trump is helping Russia, Trump stopped the Nord Stream Pipeline, Trump attempted to stop Russia's monopoly on European energy, and the Democrats had a rigged election and stole the damn thing, and then reversed all of it, giving Russia total control of the entire region.
And now Putin has endorsed Joe Biden.
So let's roll the clip of Putin endorsing Joe Biden for 2024 for Jen Psaki and all the rest of the liberals in the media.
Who is better for us, Biden or Trump?
Biden.
He's a more experienced person.
He's predictable.
He's an old-fashioned politician.
But we will work with any leader of the United States that the American people will trust.
Listen, I met Biden in Switzerland a few years ago, three years ago.
Well, even then they were saying that he was incapable of anything.
I didn't see anything like that.
Well, yes, he peeked at his paper.
I, to be honest, peeked at mine.
There's nothing like that.
Well, the fact that he hit his head somewhere while getting out of the helicopter.
This helicopter.
But who of us didn't hit their head somewhere?
There you have it, ladies and gentlemen, Putin endorsing Joe Biden.
And let me add here that, because this is an important wrinkle that I think has been kind of over-circulated the last few days, the idea That the one of the witnesses to the House Oversight Committee that was a FBI CIA informant that worked for them all of a sudden has ties to Russia is one of the most ridiculous pivots I've ever seen.
But at the same time, Hunter Biden walks into a subpoenaed appearance in Congress and just walks out with Kevin Morris, just walks right out of the place.
If that were you or I, we'd be in handcuffs.
If it was Roger Stone, they would have given him the death penalty.
If it was Donald Trump, they would have given him the death penalty a hundred times.
That's the level of political bias that goes into the enforcement of our laws.
There is a total bias when it comes to the enforcement of American laws, where those on the left can do whatever they want, including burning cities, killing cops, burning churches, firebombing police, firebombing federal authorities.
They can do whatever they want, because as Merrick Garland said, and remember, he actually said this, The acting Attorney General of the United States actually said that he could not prosecute those involved in the whole Antifa Portland debacle where there were firebombing federal authorities.
They couldn't be prosecuted because it happened at night.
He said that in Congress.
He actually said that he couldn't prosecute him because it happened at night.
So for anybody that wants to commit any kind of crime, I guess just do it at night.
And if it's bad enough, the Attorney General won't do anything about it because it happened at night.
But we all know that if it was some guy that had posted a pro-Trump message on his Facebook at any point in his lifetime, had done it, he'd be in jail for the rest of his life.
Because that's how things go in America.
It's a total, it's basically become the Soviet Union.
And I mean, look where we are right now, folks, the Stone Zone.
Roger Stone, nonviolent offender, has his home raided by armed FBI agents at 3am.
If that didn't tell you, and Tucker Carlson has said this before, and I've heard it, if that didn't wake you up, To what's going on in this country and the level of political problems that we are having, then I don't know what would because that was a step that a lot of people, I think, looked at and said, OK, we're in a different we are in a completely different game right now.
And it's.
It's a very sad situation, but as long as we have avenues like this, as long as we have avenues like Slingshot.News, which I encourage all of you to check out, LaunchLiberty.com, also StoneZone.com.
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Um, but anyway, folks, uh, we want to get into our next topic here, um, and it's an important one because When it comes to January 6th, 2021, and not speaking about the protests or anything like that, what happened in Congress that day was that the Vice President of the United States, Mike Pence, had a duty to not certify results that were questionable.
And he did so anyway.
The people that were opposing the certification of the election results within Congress, talking about members of Congress, those people weren't asking to overturn the election in favor of Donald Trump.
They were asking for a review of the data that was being submitted because they didn't believe it to be trustworthy.
There's nothing wrong with that.
It's been done many times throughout U.S.
history.
And that process alone failed in a very important process that has caused untold damage on the United States based on the results of the Biden administration.
That happened because the Vice President of the United States was weak.
And I have no problem saying that Mike Pence is weak.
He is weak and you can tell that just by looking at him.
You can tell that by looking at the campaign events he had at a pharmacy in Iowa where nobody showed up and there were more people in line at the pharmacy than were attending his rally.
Mike Pence is a low energy guy.
And he failed.
He tried to challenge Trump in this election cycle and he failed.
And notice, by the way, how his documents scandal, he had his own documents scandal while he was running and all of a sudden that's disappeared.
And I would be interested to see what Mike Pence is up to.
But my point is that we got Joe Biden because the Vice President was weak.
And if you're looking at 2024 and you're looking at Trump's ticket, you want him to select somebody who's going to be strong.
And it's not about loyalty to Trump.
It's about loyalty to the Constitution and the process that our founders gave us.
And the media will spin it as, oh, it's a loyalty to Trump.
No, it has nothing to do with it.
Mike Pence could have been the most disloyal human being on the face of the earth.
He had a duty, and he didn't do it.
That's what it comes down to.
He had a job, and he didn't do it.
He was supposed to review the evidence, he was supposed to not certify it if he didn't think it was legitimate, or he think it needed to be reviewed, and he didn't do that.
They didn't afford anybody the opportunity to do anything, and in fact, the protesters breaking in actually gave them the perfect opportunity to Completely dismiss anybody who had anything to say about the count, and to then come back, and I believe they did so at 11 o'clock or midnight on January 6th, which would have been January 7th.
They certified the election results, and of course nobody was going to stand up after what had happened.
So, you know, you get what you get.
And if Trump does not pick somebody who is willing to stand up and willing to do their constitutional duty at that time, then we could have a similar situation in 2028.
Or, you know, if we do get down to that situation, if Trump does win, we could have a similar situation going into the next election.
And I think that needs to be dealt with.
It needs to be something that's at the top of President Trump's mind as he's selecting who he's going to pick for his vice president.
Now, I'm not here to tell him who to pick.
I would never tell him who to pick.
I think that there are some good candidates for the position.
But ultimately, he's got to be the one that decides, OK, I have faith in this person.
I think this person is a strong individual.
And as Roger said, I think it would benefit him greatly to pick somebody who's actually run for president before.
And that gets into somebody who has been making the news recently, Tulsi Gabbard.
Now Tulsi Gabbard, Roger's put out a lot of tweets on this and we're going to run a video here quickly where he talks about Tulsi Gabbard possibly being Trump's running mate heading into the 2024 election.
election we're going to play that clip now.
Or somebody else who's running for President, Tulsi Gabbard.
Now, I'm intrigued with that idea, make no bones about it.
She's a Lieutenant Colonel in the U.S.
Army Reserve.
She is a veteran of both Iraq and Kuwait.
She is a former Democrat member of Congress.
She is a strong proponent of the Second Amendment.
I interviewed her yesterday for my WABC New York radio show.
She was in a shooting range at a shooting contest.
You could hear the shooting going on behind her.
I do think that she's had the same kind of political evolution we've seen previously.
But my friend said she was a Democrat.
She was a liberal Democrat.
Folks, Ronald Reagan was a Democrat.
In fact, he was a very liberal Democrat.
He was a New Deal Democrat.
On the larger questions of war and peace, she has stood up to the war machine.
On the larger question of this weaponization of our criminal justice system, which they seek to destroy Donald Trump, to lock him up, to steal his wealth, she has stood up against the system.
Yeah, and I think she has an appeal to millennials, to younger voters.
She's also a championship surfer.
So, I would take some guff for this, but I actually think if you want somebody who's run for president before, has the qualifications, and would carry out the Trump agenda, that's personally who I would choose.
There are a number of other safer candidates.
I'm not endorsing anybody.
I'm waiting for Donald Trump to choose and then I'm for whoever he is for.
And as Roger said there, we will be for whoever he is for.
I think it's important that people recognize that, you know, and I'm hearing a lot of speculation, and we can get into this now because I think this is important.
We have told you here on The Stone Zone many times about sore loser laws, and we've talked a bit about Now, if Nikki Haley decided that she was going to run for president as an independent, she couldn't really do it in many states because they have a rule where you can't drop out of one party's primary and then run for the general as an independent or in a different party.
They don't want people basically running vendetta campaigns.
And that's a loophole that a lot of people don't understand.
And we're going to get into that in our final segment here of the show.
But it just points out there's rules to this that certain people don't understand and they don't really understand that.
So you hear people talking about Byron Donalds.
I saw he was asked about being vice president.
And there's a problem with Byron Donalds.
There's a problem with Ron DeSantis.
There's a problem, there's many problems with Ron DeSantis, but this one particularly.
And there's a problem with Matt Gaetz.
The problem is that the 12th Amendment states that a vice president and a president can't be on the ticket from the same state without having penalties.
And that would mean losing the large electoral count of Florida, which I believe is over 30 at this point.
So we could put up, I've highlighted here, the 12th amendment, which states that the electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for president and vice president, one of whom at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves.
And I think it's important to point out that, that portion definitely contributes to it.
I would encourage everybody to go out there and to read the entire 12th Amendment, which kind of gets more into what's happening there.
You can't have a president and a vice president from the same state.
And I think that's a very important thing.
You won't see him pick anybody from Florida.
My question is, what if somebody is a resident of multiple states?
Because Trump would technically be a resident of New York.
I would wonder, and I don't know this for sure, I'm not a constitutional attorney, I would wonder if that same standard applies to Like say Trump is a resident of New York.
He claims to be a resident of New York in his papers where he files.
Could he run with somebody from Florida?
That's an interesting question that I don't think has been answered yet legally.
But I think it points towards what's happening here as we get closer to the 2024 election.
Because Tulsi Gabbard, as Roger points out, is a veteran.
She's somebody who had something going on before she got to DC.
She's not just a politician.
And I feel the same way about Ben Carson, truthfully, because he was such an accomplished, brilliant guy before he got into politics.
My only problem with him is that I don't think he adds anything to the ticket.
I don't think anybody is going out there saying, oh, Ben Carson's going to be the VP.
Although I think he's a brilliant man, and I think people should feel that way.
I really do.
Before Trump got into the 2016 election, I was, I mean, I was 16 years old, but I was looking at it saying, okay, well, Ben Carson looks like the best option here.
Brilliant guy, smart guy, stayed with Trump to the end, loyal, I mean, brilliant.
Not enough you could say about him.
But I'm not sure, politically, that people get excited, and I think that was kind of highlighted in 2016, where he became, you know, He just got old.
People didn't really care.
And you could blame Trump on that.
In another election cycle, he might have done a lot better.
And I remember looking at his fundraising.
He actually did pretty well.
A lot better than I expected.
So, like I said, I think Ben Carson's a great guy, but I don't think he motivates anybody.
And with Tulsi Gabbard, I think you may access a new voter group that maybe wouldn't have voted for the ticket prior.
And I think for a lot of the Democrats, as we showed in that poll, Earlier on in the show where they're losing on key issues across the board because of Joe Biden, there's going to be a lot of Democrats who are looking at Trump and looking for a reason to support him.
They're looking for a reason and they'll never say it publicly.
They will never admit it because they have to be, oh we hate Trump.
But there's a lot of Democrats out there, and trust me, that are looking at this ballot saying, OK, if Biden is the nominee, I don't know that I can vote for that.
Because as we pointed out, Ukraine, Middle East, all this stuff.
And they're going to be looking for a reason to vote for Donald Trump.
They're going to be looking for a reason to not vote for Joe Biden.
Now, I think the important thing for Trump is that he works those independents, because I think in that scenario, If Robert F. Kennedy is able to get on the ballot in a lot of states, he will absorb a lot of that vote.
And I don't know whether it'd be 50-50 or whatever, but I think that ultimately, if he's on the ballot in a lot of key states, it could play in a factor.
But there's going to be a lot of Democrats that are looking for a reason not to vote for President Biden because it's just been such a disaster at every level.
I mean, this guy started with a 61 approval rating.
Uh, from independence and of course the president always has a good approval rating right at the inauguration.
But that's down to like under 30 now.
He's totally tanked with independence.
People don't agree with him on anything.
Not only that, but he's a basket case who can't appear in public without embarrassing himself and the country.
So it's really put them into catch-22.
It's why I think Roger's right and so many others are right in saying that Biden may not be the nominee.
I don't know that for a fact, but it sure looks like they're setting up the cards that way.
And it's going to be interesting to see how things eventually shake out in that regard.
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And I wanted to use that time to talk about something that is extremely important and something that I think is affecting a lot of people right now.
It's not getting a lot of talk.
And that is media consolidation.
And if you haven't seen the headlines, journalists all over the United States are being fired.
We have a couple select headlines.
That I want to throw up there.
800 fired from Paramount.
CBS News journalists affected by that.
Vice Media has completely shut their doors.
They've laid off hundreds of people.
They're not even going to be publishing on their website anymore.
And then, additionally, we had some other layoffs.
I believe it was the LA Times fired 115 people.
Now, that was a month ago, but just since the beginning of the year here, we've seen a lot of journalists kicked out of where they were working.
And I think it's important for the people that are trying to control the narratives that they're not being anybody that's kind of dissenting from that narrative.
And it shows why places like Slingshot News, Slingshot.News or LaunchLiberty.com or StoneZone.com or this broadcast are so important.
Because as we get closer to 2024, restraints put on people like us by big tech.
The restraints put on people like Roger heading into the election are going to be tighter and tighter and tighter.
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The people who, if it weren't for independent media, would be completely led astray by those in the mainstream who for so many years allowed our country to be destroyed.
These people allowed our country to be destroyed.
So, we just have a few more minutes here, folks, and I want to end here with no labels because we've talked about that quite a bit.
Yesterday we talked about the sore loser laws and that Nikki Haley could not run for president as an independent after losing the Republican primary in a lot of states.
But she could run as vice president.
In a ticket for No Labels, as Roger pointed out.
Now, in order for that to work, and this is important too, No Labels director says Nikki Haley is someone that they're definitely interested in for a 2024 run.
As I predicted on the Stone Zone just a few days ago, I believe if Larry Hogan wins his race for U.S.
Senate in Maryland that he will switch his party affiliation afterwards to become No Labels to assume the Joe Manchin Catbird seat in the Senate that Kyrsten Sinema tried and failed to assume.
I believe, and this is my exclusive prediction here on the Stone Zone, that no labels will try to recruit billionaire Shark Tank host Mark Cuban as their president on the Haley Cuban ticket As a no labels ticket heading into 2024.
Now this party already has serious ballot access in many states, and this is a real possibility.
And the idea that the establishment would draft the liberal reality talk show host to go up against Trump, who they call the reality show host from the Celebrity Apprentice, Is a story that I think that they're going to want to push.
It's something that gives them headlines and Mark Cuban has openly talked about running for president.
We pulled a clip of that from about six years ago.
I want to run that now so people can see that the Mark Cuban for president thing is not as big of a pipe dream as some would have you believe.
You kind of would like to be the President of the United States.
No, that's not what I said.
If you could.
That's not what I said.
I said I'm considering it.
Um, I think that given the circumstances, there's a unique opportunity for somebody like me who's independent, who's not affiliated with a party in any way.
I haven't given money to a politician since 2002.
And I think that people are looking for an independent voice, a real independent voice that at least has an inkling of what they're talking about.
If you ran, you would run as a Democrat?
No, absolutely not.
As an independent?
Potentially.
Because they're Republican.
Republican before Democrat, most likely independent because I think there's an incremental value for setting up an independent candidacy.
Now I understand the difficulties of that and the challenges of that from an infrastructure perspective, but the positives for doing it as a Republican means you get to go head-on with Trump right in the primaries.
And so there's nothing I'd have more fun doing.
The benefit of being an independent is you go right to the golden ticket time, right?
And if I get enough support in the polls, then I get to participate with the debates, which is right up there with something.
I think you really are considering and thinking about it.
Well, no, I'm considering, obviously considering.
And there you have it, folks.
Mark Cuban interested in running as an independent, but kind of a Republican.
What does that sound like to you?
To me, that sounds exactly like Nikki Haley, No Labels, Larry Hogan, and all the rest of the rhino trash that has been destroying this country for many years.
I think Mark Cuban's got the money.
He's got the influence.
He's got the, obviously, he's got the same values.
He hates Trump.
He endorsed Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, just as many in the Republican circles of the establishment.
So, folks, Mark Cuban, that would be my prediction.
For no labels.
If you wanted to do some damage to Trump and you wanted to present it as a, you know, a kind of alternative to Trump, I think Mark Cuban really is the mirror image of Trump.
It's almost like a Superman with Superman with the backwards S. It's almost exactly the opposite of Trump in that he's a very wealthy individual who supports liberal causes and supports DEI and supports things like that.
But he also has this aura of being outspoken and honest, and he has tremendous face recognition and name recognition from his time with the Mavericks, and his time where he's a minority owner now, and his time on Shark Tank, obviously.
So I think if the No Labels people, they're going to be calling Mark Cuban.
Now whether that happens or not, I don't know, but my prediction is that if they do run a candidate in this race for 2024 for president, it's going to be a Cuban Haley ticket.
That seems to me to make the most sense.
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